So, who's planning to get/upgrade to an N810?

[Reggie]

I'm wondering who's excited about the N810 and who is getting one on the first day it is released? Also, how do you intend to you use it?

[jazzbass12]

I am pumped up for it..I use my 800 non stop.
I will use this for Internet --GPS--Email--Chat--Rhapsody. I am a power Emailer so the keyboard is a welcome site.

I am really hoping I can use GOTO My PC on the new browser to be more efficient with work.

[kingka]

I'm pretty sure I'll be picking it up once it's released. I'm just concerned about whether or not I'll be able to figure this whole pidgin thing out, because I'll be using it for mainly MSN and web browsing. I'll be buying it regardless. just hope I can install that app. I know nothing about linux.

[Texrat]

Already got mine. Using it for all the old stuff (corporate email, IM messaging, games, browsing) in adidtion to (yay!) gps!

Oh, and kingka: check zerojay's Jabber thread. :D

[Alvin]

dunno... I use my N800 a lot but I don't think I can spare the extra 500 just to get a keyboard and gps. (and lose SD slots). I might have to leapfrog this one.
Looking forward to OS2008 though

[dormant]

I'm like Alvin.

It's taken me a while to get to the stage where my N800 is indispensible.

OS2008 will do me for the moment.

[phi]

Besides Nokia Flagship Nokia stores, anywhere else I can go and play with one? I noticed Microcenter is opening up a brick & mortar store in Rockville, MD which is within driving distance and they've advertised they're carrying nokia products in a flyer I got. I wonder if they'll have any on display. Most of the CompUSA's in my area have closed down.

[Capt'n Corrupt]

I'm VERY excited to get my hands on an N810. As soon as I can afford the unit, I'm going to buy it. Hopefully, it's on the first day :)

I'm going to use it for nearly _everything_.

1) It's going to be a companion while I'm on the computer. Having access to reference materials for programming (APIs, code snips, etc) will be very useful while I'm developing.

2) I'm going to use it to transfer sensitive information that I'd prefer to keep off of the network (or cloud, if you prefer).

3) As an ebook reader. I enjoy reading off of a screen. I've gotten more than accustomed to it with the computer. The N810 means that I'll be able to read in bed, on a plane, etc.

4) As an audio player. Not while I'm jogging, but certainly while I'm traveling about. I have very eclectic musical tastes (but quality), and also enjoy listening to audio-books and other things. This will be a HUGE feature for me.

5) As a video player. I like watching video and often am not sitting in front of the computer/tv.

6) As a temporary personal information storage device. Phone numbers, email addresses, etc. will be stored on this device before moving online.

7) For surfing the internet. What can I say, I love the net!

8) As a phone. I use SIP almost exclusively. It's cheap and the quality is great. Although wifi isn't *everywhere*, the ability to take my home phone with me to the cafe, or a mates house is a big deal. Especially since as more people I know adopt SIP, it costs less and less.

9) To develop on. Being able to sketch, or take notes when planning an implementation is a HUGE part of my programming (far larger than the coding step). This would allow me to be productive away from the computer.

10) To develop for. I think developing for the N810 would be fun.

11) As a MAP. GPS is a fantastic bonus, though all I need is a map to find my way. I often travel to new places, and a digital map would be an indispensable feature. It beats the paper kind as well as plotting a course before I leave.

12) To email. I'm not big on the IMs, but I email constantly. The ability to send/receive emails is a big deal for me, especially on the road.

13) Video conference. Honestly, I can only see myself using this for my girlfriend, and possibly business partner, but it's a cool feature. I'd likely use the N810 as a companion to the computer for this feature as well.

14) A redundant node. This is useful for diagnosing my lan, or if I'm experiencing computer troubles.

15) As a clock. When I carried my phone, I used it as a clock when I wasn't wearing a watch. The N810 will fill this role.

16) Writing. I like to write on the computer, and composing in the park or a cafe sounds far better than at my desk.

17) As an organizer. I fully expect the N810 to access my online calendar and todo list, so that I stay organized.


I see the N810 becoming a large part of everything that I do. I've been waiting for a portable convergence device for a LONG time, and the Tablets are the first devices that really achieve this.

I'm definitely excited to get one!


}:^)~
YARR!!

Capt'n Corrupt

[lardman]

Definitely. I've been hoping for a keyboard for a long time.

IM will be easier, as will email.

Typing in the terminal will be easier as will be using vi (I hope the escape key is bound to something!)

And finally I'll be able to use gnumeric without cursing everytime the on-screen keyboard pops up and obscures 90% of the data I was looking at ;)

I'm also looking forward to some location aware apps with the built in GPS - I always used to forget to bring my BT GPS unless I was travelling somewhere in the car and needed to use Maemo mapper.

[johnkzin]

I got paid today. I have the cash. When does it go on sale!? WHEN!!!!??? *twitch*


:-)

I plan to use it as a portable portal to my network communications. chat, ssh, rss, web stuff. Some email, but not a lot (the webmail I use is a little too unwieldy for the tiny browser window, the included IMAP client is completely insufficient, and clawsmail is a little unwieldy on the small screen as well).

I'm also going to get a skype account this month, to see how I like using the N800 as my voip phone. Not sure about rhapsody yet (I don't like the interface very much, and it doesn't seem to like running on my Mac either).


Oh, and, having the keyboard will, I hope, make using xterm/ssh and/or vnc more comfortable. Probably will help with chat too, but I'm actually ok on using the full screen keyboard for that.

[Texrat]

Even with the keyboard integrated, I find myself stylus-typing 95% of the time

[maxilogan]

Oh, and kingka: check zerojay's Jabber thread. :D

Which one? I del.icio.us-ed this (http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=86627#post86627) and works like a charm!

[maxilogan]

Typing in the terminal will be easier as will be using vi (I hope the escape key is bound to something!)

To the escape key, maybe? :D

[vvaz]

Still not sure. I will wait to read some real life experiences.

[Garage Battle]

guys, im sure the Nokia reps have been interested to know what our feedback has been on the N810 announcement so far. has there been any word on potential pricing changes, release date confirmation, or anything else of mention?

[maxilogan]

What really excites me is not the 810, which I found, hardware-wise, too similar to the N800 to justify an upgrade *since I already own a BT GPS and an 8GB SDHC which is coming from eBay*. The very big plus, for me, on the N810 HW is the screen, but it isn't enough to justify the price of the gadget.

I am waiting with lots of hope OS2008, tough, which appear to be the first which will really make us discover the very best from our tablets. Particularly, I hope there will be the long awaited support for BT headsets (which I read on Nokia advertisement but I did not read of in any of the reviews, apart from internet call between Thoughtfix and Reggie), that would make Skype / SIP the killer app (which actually is not, sadly)

Upgrading will be for the next (N900 or N910, I think :) )

[Hedgecore]

I think the n810 might make me delve back into the tablet world. I didn't see a heck of a lot of difference between the 770 and the n800, so I was majorly cheesed at Nokia that there was very little backward compatibility. I wasn't ready to shell out another $400. This time, I think I am.

When I first got the 770, I'd carry it around all the time, finding hotspots at will and MSNing, etc. That was WAY too hard with an onscreen keyboard, now that there's a hardware one, the tablet has matured to the point where it should be in my pocket at all times. I don't drive, so I can't wait for the first time I'm wandering around another city and use the GPS to find my way around. Should be awesome. :D

[sachin007]

[QUOTE=Hedgecore;89731]I think the n810 might make me delve back into the tablet world. I didn't see a heck of a lot of difference between the 770 and the n800, so I was majorly cheesed at Nokia that there was very little backward compatibility. I wasn't ready to shell out another $400. This time, I think I am."

Actually i also thought the same before plunging into the n800 and did not buy it for the first 6 months. But after i took the jump i was proved wrong. The n800 is far more refined than the n770 is. Actually there is not much difference between the n800 and n810 so i am going to passs it for the next version. Most of the improvements you would be surprised were actually in the n800.....

[luciditydigital]

Count me in on the 'waiting in line for the n810' group.

I bought a 770 early on, and still use it all the time, but I skipped out on the N800 for mostly aesthetic reasons: I didn't like the off-white color. I hated the rear bump, and I wanted the hard cover.
so I have gladly stayed with the 770, but I am thrilled with the specs on the N810 (with two exceptions: the lack of a full sized Sd card slot, and no hard cover.)
I love the fact that it has a transflective screen, that is at the top of my list because I spend allot of my time outdoors, and I am tired of choosing an inside seat instead of the outside patio just because I want to be able to read my screen.
I love the Keyboard, (though I have a think outside Bt keyboard, I don't' always want to pull it out for everything.)
The Brushed stainless look and the sleek dimensions do it for me! I am going to plunk my <>500 down as soon as I see it available online.
-Ezra

[kingka]

thanks textrat, I shall give it a try.... when I get the n810 ofcourse

[jmk]

I am not getting N810 because i already have bluetooth gps receiver and its too similar to the N800. Waiting for the next generation tablet (step 4 of 5). When the Nokia N810 sales start the OS2008 is coming for N800 users also (and apparently the OS2009 next year).

[Alvin]

Does the N810 really have a transflective screen??

I just thought it was "better" in the sun than the N800

[Reggie]

Does the N810 really have a transflective screen??

I just thought it was "better" in the sun than the N800

Yes it does.

[Texrat]

It does, but as I've noted: it can be highly reflective in certain indoor situations.

I'm hoping to find a protective screen that can mitigate that.

[zerojay]

I'm upgrading for sure if I can get the discount coupon.

[Alvin]

that sounds good about the screen!

A transflective screen actually reflects back the sunlight through the LCD right? So it actually looks better in the direct sun?
so long as you don't get a mirror effect.

I guess I have to see how much pennies are left after the holiday season...
.. maybe tax return time would be my chance to get a N810

[johnkzin]

I got a $500 bonus at work this month... convenient that :-)

Just waiting for the release date...

[TA-t3]

A transflective screen is visible in direct sunlight (the one in my Palm T3 is visible _only_ in direct sunlight, if I turn it away from the sun it's hardly visible.. I've seen better transflective screens than that though.)
In direct sunlight view the colours may suffer a bit, depending on the screen. The single picture I've seen of the N810 (from thoughtfix) showed some colour, it looked quite good. I once saw one Garmin GPS navigator with an _excellent_ transflective screen. Wish my T3 was that good..

EDIT: Typo! 810, not 800 of course..

[kotzkind]

I'm planning to get an n810 if they take me at the developer programm.
If not I will buy a n800

[mike-y]

At first I was all for upgrading from my 770. Now, I think I'm going to wait until after the holidays at least. With products like the new Asus Eee PC, and other MIDs/ITs on the horizon, I'll take a "wait and see" approach.

$450 is on the high side, IMO, so at the very least, I'll wait for the price to drop a bit.

[prosthetic]

I love my Garmin NUVI's screen. Dulls any reflection. However, I'll be honest. The reflection of the N810 is a bit irritating IMO, as far as in-car GPS is concerned. There's a new hardware build I haven't seen, but I doubt that has been corrected. That said, the screen is really nice and as long as you don't have high-reflective conditions, the display is quite reasonable in the sun or extreme bright conditions.

[TenSpeed]

I hope to get an N810 shortly after release. I skipped the N800, but loved the 770 despite several flaws - MMC, limited software (at the time), and the complete omission of most Canadian cities (couldn't even SET Newfoundland time...). I was also put off by the need for another computer to update the OS. I'll be using it for email, web surfing, developing an internet radio database (and listening online), showing off photos of my son, and (hopefully) some light audio editing work if I can get software ported. Oh, and doing presentations when we discover the secret video out port...

The N810 looks fantastic, and I'm actually glad Nokia have gone with smaller SD cards (I'll be using microSD with an adapter for this, my audio recorder, digital camera etc). Best of all, I can carry the IT _and_ my son at the same time - not an option with laptops (and my back). :)

[cmetz]

Nope, happy with the 800. Use a BT keyboard when I need to write anything extended, which is actually fairly often since this has replaced my laptop. Virtual KB works fine for everything else.

[earl00]

asus eee pc is the way to go - no porting of apps. Any x86 linux running on there, 4GB SSD, sd slot, 3 usb ports, wifi, lan, 0.3 mega pixel cam, mouse pad, proper keyboard, upgrade ram to 2GB, and add a 3G card and external harddrive, no issues with youtube or any video streaming. its not as small as the n810, but I'd rather have a bigger screen anyway, plus $100+ cheaper than n810. Its not all about fitting in your pocket for me. My cell phone fits in my pocket, and has 3G, tomtom gps and if I really need to use the internet on there to check my mail, I have all the google java apps and opera mini.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHT3a62Dw4I

also: printer function, and openoffice.

[prosthetic]

asus eee pc is the way to go...

That things is a monster in comparison. Entirely different market.

[exon]

its not as small as the n810, but I'd rather have a bigger screen anyway

Bigger (7"?) but same res (800x480), right? I have to agree with prosthetic - it's sort-of an apples-to-oranges comparison. As a cheap computer and mini ultra-portable laptop the eee will probably be great. But you still need a bag to carry it. I see the N810 as something in between the eee and your phone - overlapping many (but not all) the functions of each. For me, that's the device I want.

[Capt'n Corrupt]

Bigger (7"?) but same res (800x480), right? I have to agree with prosthetic - it's sort-of an apples-to-oranges comparison. As a cheap computer and mini ultra-portable laptop the eee will probably be great. But you still need a bag to carry it. I see the N810 as something in between the eee and your phone - overlapping many (but not all) the functions of each. For me, that's the device I want.

Well said.


}:^)~
YARR!!

Capt'n Corrupt

[johnkzin]

Yeah, the eee is not even close to the market I'm looking for. I want something that is literally a hand-held. And I do _NOT_ want a cramped "full" keyboard, in the handheld category, a thumb keyboard is pretty much a must.

The eee is really competing with the likes of the pepperpad, wibrain, q1, viao ux, etc. And, in that category, the pepperpad is the winner (IMO). It's just too bad it's not doing well. I almost wish Nokia would buy them, and make that their UMPC offering (the big brother to the IT family). But that would start to get too close to Nokia being in the PC business, and I don't know if that'd be a good move for Nokia.

But, yeah, if I want something that big, I'll buy a pepperpad.

[Garage Battle]

i believe that the EEE pc has a place. but, if you usually carry around a nokia tablet, going to the EEE will make you not happy. dont get me wrong, for destination to destination, the EEE is amazing. for instance, on a plane, in a hotel, etc.

the Nokia tablet works on the in between. while in the cab, while in an elevator, while at dinner. its very casual and feels more acceptable on the go. i myself would honestly never buy a full size laptop. eee pc is the biggest form factor i would go.

[earl00]

Yeah, the eee is not even close to the market I'm looking for. I want something that is literally a hand-held. And I do _NOT_ want a cramped "full" keyboard, in the handheld category, a thumb keyboard is pretty much a must.

The eee is really competing with the likes of the pepperpad, wibrain, q1, viao ux, etc. And, in that category, the pepperpad is the winner (IMO). It's just too bad it's not doing well. I almost wish Nokia would buy them, and make that their UMPC offering (the big brother to the IT family). But that would start to get too close to Nokia being in the PC business, and I don't know if that'd be a good move for Nokia.

But, yeah, if I want something that big, I'll buy a pepperpad.

Unfortunately having looked at the battery life and not being very attractive to me as far as price and looks go, I'll have to skip on that one. I'm really looking for something that has a regular keyboard built in(not thumb and no need for extra bt full keyboard) and has a hard casing to protect the screen aswell as x86 architecture and a slightly bigger screen than the n800(but not that much bigger than its not ultra portable and light weight anymore), so that writing documents is not painful and actually can run office applications(openoffice), having USB host to expand the device capabilities unlike the n800. To me the Asus does this perfectly. The thing about the n800, its just not quite small enough to fit in your back pocket or front pocket unlike my previous dell axim X51v, with that I could even sit down with it in my back pocket without the worry of it breaking. Unfortunately I could never fit the n800 in my pocket comfortable, or would be comfortable sitting on it. And since I'm having to carry it in my hand or in a bag anyway I rather get something slightly bigger/powerful and more attractive. The laptop design of the asus eee acts as a good screen protector and is about the size of a A4 sheet folded in half. No more squinting on the n800 or worry about the screen. I like that it can also boot from usb and all those proper x86 linux programs available that I was hoping would be more accessible with the n800. no openoffice - forget about it. maybe nokia will have something good when step 5 comes along.

FYI: I don't wear alot of jackets so jeans pocket is my only option of storage. with that said - n800 is a no no. so if I'm having to carry it in my hand or a bag might as well get something like the asus eee. If anyone has another device thats got all the above at $399 - Let me know - i'll be interested.

http://www.sizeasy.com/page/size_comparison/6473-a4-paper-vs-Asus-Eee-vs-PSP-vs-Nokia-N800-1-vs-iPod-Touch

[johnkzin]

i believe that the EEE pc has a place. but, if you usually carry around a nokia tablet, going to the EEE will make you not happy. dont get me wrong, for destination to destination, the EEE is amazing. for instance, on a plane, in a hotel, etc.

the Nokia tablet works on the in between. while in the cab, while in an elevator, while at dinner. its very casual and feels more acceptable on the go. i myself would honestly never buy a full size laptop. eee pc is the biggest form factor i would go.

I mostly use my Nokia at destinations. In meetings, or to check personal things even when I'm at a desk (my rss feeds, for example, or my to-do list). I not only don't need a full size laptop for that, I don't need an UMPC for it. The IT is just fine, and the one thing the N800 didn't have, that I wanted, and that the N810 does have, is the built-in keyboard without increasing the size of the device.

What I _DO_ need is storage. Which is why I'm looking forward to the release of either the Agere BluOnyx or the Seagate DAVE. Shove it in an organizer (that also has a pocket for my IT), but never have to touch anything other than my IT.

[prosthetic]

FYI: I don't wear alot of jackets so jeans pocket is my only option of storage.

The N810 is smaller than the N800. I often place my N810 in my shirt pocket or my jeans pocket. I'm not sure I'd call it comfortable, but it works. It's fine in my shirt pocket, albeit a bit weighty. I wouldn't go any larger than this, and it provides amazing power for the size. Ya know, anything to make me look larger in the pants... (ok, that was bad)

[johnkzin]

I have a couple of organizers I bought (like day-timers, only not exactly) in attempting to find the right thing to carry my N800. Pant pockets just aren't something I'm comfortable with.

The thing I'm mainly using, until I get my BT keyboard, is:

http://search.cellphoneshop.com/search?p=Q&ts=custom&w=mini+handbag&x=0&y=0

I cut the handstrap off (too small for my hand/wrist), cut up 2 pieces of a soft mousepad to put inside, and that's what I carry. I have a USB card reader and extra stylus in the non-main zipper pocket (and sometimes I have a microfiber wipe in there as well, sometimes the earbuds/microphone the N800 came with), and 2 SD card holders in the non-zipper pockets.

[promethh]

I'm looking forward to the Nokia N810. I already have it on pre-order with a Nokia reseller who tells me they expect a shipment of 50 on/around 11/23 in the US.

I have a Nokia N800 with a StowAway bluetooth keyboard now. I tried selling it on Internet Tablet Talk for $250, but it took a week before I got any real answers. In that time, a former co-worker in Virginia bought it from me.

I'm looking forward to the Nokia N810. The integrated slideout keyboard and GPS are major factors for me. Nokia buying Navteq was a disappointment to Garmin, whom I've beta-tested for in the past. I'm currently under NDA and beta-testing a device poised to be a competitor (not Garmin, but a company in California) to the Nokia N810, and the TeleAtlas situation is being closed watched.

The transreflective screen on the Nokia N810 might very well be a thing of beauty. I have a transreflective screen on my HP Compaq tc4400 Tablet PC. If you place a PowerBook G4 and the tc4400 TabletPC side-by-side in direct sunlight, the tc4400 really pops with a clear display. I have the same hopes for the Nokia N810.

The Nokia Internet Tablet is an odd place. For casual users, it's not easy enough. OS2008 still does not have the tight integration of an iPhone, iPod Touch, or Windows Mobile 6. For hardcore users, it's not "UNIX enough" or hardware enough. Some people prefer the Asus Eee over the Nokia N8x0.

For me, as a Senior Systems Administrator, it strikes the right balance. I can do everything I need to do from an N8x0, and if I can't, with a WiFi connection and ssh, I can get to someplace where I can. There's a good balance of Maemo Bora/Chinook software from repositories or Maemo Garage. What doesn't exist, but I'd like to see on the N8x0, I'll code myself or work with others to realize.

I'm looking forward to the Nokia N810. Even if the Nokia N810 isn't "The Next Big Thing." It's a sign of things to come. Other companies are taking notice, even if you don't see it going said in Internet Tablet Talk. I have high hopes for the N810.

[johnkzin]

prometth:

heh. I'm also a senior unix sysadmin. ssh (and software expandability, but specifically ssh) was a HUGE part of my decision to go with the N800 over the iPhone or iPod-Touch.

I'm curious about the device you're beta testing... hopefully, once it's public you can post more info (or send me a private message when the NDA is lifted, since talking about it in these forums might be considered off topic).

[Paradux]

I'm one of those people that bought a 770 when they were ditching them for $135. I previously used a Jornada 680 and a Palm Tungsten E. I'm totally hooked. I use it in the car with a BT GPS, during lunch at work to watch video (no accessible wireless at work :( ) and at home to listen to music or quickly surf the web. The 770 has left me wanting more. Much more.

Next week (11/6 - 11/10) I'm going to be in Chicago for GreenBuild staying in a hotel a block or two from the flagship store. I sent an email to Nokia asking them if the N810 was going to be available for sale around 11/8. Here's their response: "if it is, you can buy it then."

:confused:

So once I convince my wife why I really need this one, I guess I'll be strolling over to the Chicago flagship store and perhaps strolling out with yet another geek tool (I refuse to call it a toy).

Wish me luck.

[Ray]

Ever considered an OQO model 02 ?

I also considered to buy an N810,
but after all those disappointing experiences with the 770 browser,
and still no serious word about the browser stability of the N810,
I finally ordered an OQO 02.

Ok, it's another apples to oranges comparison,
but at least the OQO is a real PC in the size range of the 770/800/810,
and I can use my favourite browser on it,
without having to worry about the next lockup or crash, as was with the 770...

Ray

[Capt'n Corrupt]

Ever considered an OQO model 02 ?

The OQO02 is a nice unit but increased horsepower is all this unit really has over the N810, and I'm not sure it's worth 3x the amount. The N810 still has favorable features not found with the OQO02 (correct me if I'm mistaken): thickness (0.55" vs. 1"), camera, weight (0.49lbs vs. 1lbs), interface (mobile vs. PC), price ($479 vs $1299+), battery life (~5hr + idle vs. 3hr).

Both devices are tending towards the same point. The N810, in my opinion, is just better all around package.



}:^)~
YARR!!

Capt'n Corrupt