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Tuxedosteve
11-15-2007, 02:12 PM
Or some of you could get off your asses and port what you want yourself?

C'mon man. That's not really very nice is it? I'd like Nethack to work on OS2008 but I've got no idea how. I'm not a coder. I'm guessing most people here aren't either.

JeffElkins
11-15-2007, 02:38 PM
C'mon man. That's not really very nice is it? I'd like Nethack to work on OS2008 but I've got no idea how. I'm not a coder. I'm guessing most people here aren't either.

Compiling is actually fairly easy. For the most part it comes down to "./configure;make;make install," but the corner cases can be really tough. I looked at the source tarball for nethack-console and quickly decided it was beyond my limited powers at this time!

I've been able to compile most of the console tools I need though.

Tuxedosteve
11-15-2007, 02:42 PM
I looked at the source tarball for nethack-console and quickly decided it was beyond my limited powers at this time!


There's actually source code available for the GTK version I was using. I'm guessing it's the GTK parts that are stopping it from working on OS2008. Sadly I doubt a simple recompile will do the trick.

It's here if anyone with mad coding skillz and some spare time fancies playing the greatest game ever in OS2008 ;)

http://n770galaxy.blogspot.com/

Tuxedosteve
11-15-2007, 03:18 PM
Cruel fate strikes again. I've just installed scratchbox intending to have a go at seeing if fixing Nethack is a simple recompile when I find out I'm out of luck unless I recompile my kernel. It seems Fedora 8's stock kernel is missing compat VDSO support and sadly my devotion to Nethack doesn't extend as far as recompiling my kernel. :( Ah well. Maybe in the future.

lardman
11-15-2007, 03:35 PM
Go here: http://packages.debian.org/stable/games/nethack-common

Download the source packages to a directory:
* [nethack_3.4.3-10.1.dsc]
* [nethack_3.4.3.orig.tar.gz]
* [nethack_3.4.3-10.1.diff.gz]

Start scratchbox and cd to that directory, run:

dpkg-source -x nethack_3.4.3-10.1.dsc

cd into the resultant nethack_3.4.3[-10.1] directory (I'm guessing the name here)

Try running this:
dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot

If it complains about debhelper version then edit ./debian/compat and change it to a 4, if it complains about other missing deps then you can either add a -f to the above command line to force it (but it may not work) or make sure you install whatever's missing.

Either way, start a new thread to let us know how you get on as this is now very truely off topic. IRC is the other option.

Tuxedosteve
11-15-2007, 04:02 PM
If I could actually get scratchbox to work without recompiling my kernel I'd rather get the already ported Maemo version working rather than reinvent the wheel and start from scratch with the base version.

(See here http://n770galaxy.blogspot.com/ )

zerojay
11-15-2007, 04:34 PM
Compiling is actually fairly easy. For the most part it comes down to "./configure;make;make install," but the corner cases can be really tough. I looked at the source tarball for nethack-console and quickly decided it was beyond my limited powers at this time!

I've been able to compile most of the console tools I need though.

Jeff, you'll want to use "./configure && make && make install" instead of what you have listed because && makes sure that the previous command ended without error before jumping to the next command in the sequence. Running make install when make failed doesn't make much sense. ;)

JeffElkins
11-15-2007, 04:45 PM
Jeff, you'll want to use "./configure && make && make install" instead of what you have listed because && makes sure that the previous command ended without error before jumping to the next command in the sequence. Running make install when make failed doesn't make much sense. ;)

Thanks for the tip. I've been omitting "make install" and scp'ing the binaries to my N800. This weekend I'm going to try to create some debs and set up a personal repository on my website. I did this in the past for the Zaurus, but it's been awhile and I'm very rusty!

technut
11-16-2007, 02:27 AM
For those in this thread who were among the first to update their N800's to OS2008, thank you for being pioneers.

For future upgraders, I would like to suggest a minor change to the procedures. I have tested this and it works.


-- For step 6 in the instructions, the first flash command after you connect the N800,
sudo ./flasher-3.0 --enable-rd-mode is NOT needed.
It puts the N800 into "R&D mode", but that is not necessary for this procedure. Just skip that one.

If you have already issued that flash command, then when you complete the steps your N800 will still be in "R&D mode". It is not strictly necessary, but if you want to turn off R&D mode you'll need to use the flasher program one more time with the command:
sudo ./flasher-3.0 --disable-rd-mode


I have updated this information in the other thread:
How to put OS2008 on N800.... now!
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11693 (http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11693)

RobMtl007
11-16-2007, 06:32 AM
Greetings:

Today is Friday, has the 2008 OS firmware been released yet?

Regards Robert

Khertan
11-16-2007, 07:37 AM
It s for december ... not today

aflegg
11-16-2007, 07:51 AM
This is now normal behavior for debian unstable? It's not for ubuntu AFAIK. Is this documented somewhere?

FYI:

andrew@vir:~ $ lsb_release -d
Description: Ubuntu 6.06 LTS
andrew@vir:~ $ ls -ld /etc/apt/sources.list.d
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 2006-02-21 18:38 /etc/apt/sources.list.d

free
11-16-2007, 12:41 PM
Or some of you could get off your asses and port what you want yourself?

I wouldn't have said it better :)

For the ones asking:
Want to be a hacker and use an unofficial OS, then, be a hacker and port your softwares ;-p

And yes, it's relatively simple with the scratchbox environment. It can even become an addiction...
Do the normal steps given a bit above. In case it fails, move on to the next package or ask support in developers subforum.

vabgeo
11-16-2007, 01:36 PM
I wouldn't have said it better :)

For the ones asking:
Want to be a hacker and use an unofficial OS, then, be a hacker and port your softwares ;-p


damn my *** is on fire!
well, i have ported my apps :P and installed gcc on the N800

JeffElkins
11-16-2007, 03:08 PM
Well, scraping the rust off I created a chinook deb repository at:
deb http://elkins.org/packages chinook main

So far, it's all console stuff I use on a regular basis:

binutils-2.18.deb (GNU binutils - most importantly ar for .debs)
ctorrent-1.3.4.deb (a decent bittorrent client)
frotz-2.4.3.deb (a z-code interpreter for infocom games)
joe-3.5-1.1.deb (the joe editor)
mc-4.6.1.deb (midnight commander)
mpg123-0.66.deb (a console mp3 player)
ncftp-3.2.1.deb ( a console ftp client)

joe has problems. None of the *rc files are showing up in /etc/joe. If I don't figure out why, I'll be asking for help in the developer's forum.

technut
11-16-2007, 04:39 PM
Well, scraping the rust off I created a chinook deb repository at:
deb http://elkins.org/packages chinook mainThank you. Repository added to http://gronmayer.com/n800/repos/

JeffElkins
11-16-2007, 04:46 PM
Well, thank you for the thank you :)

This senor citizen is having a fun time compiling for OS2008! I'd urge others to jump in...the water is pretty warm :)

I have _no_ idea how to hildonize an app, but I'm dying to have xmms on my N800. I love that program.

dblank
11-16-2007, 05:31 PM
I have _no_ idea how to hildonize an app, but I'm dying to have xmms on my N800. I love that program.

Have you tried just compiling and running it as is?

JeffElkins
11-16-2007, 05:52 PM
Have you tried just compiling and running it as is?

Nope, but that's next :)

I'm downloading the source.

JeffElkins
11-16-2007, 06:05 PM
configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in "." "./.." "./../.."

No joy for xmms at first blush...

dormant
11-18-2007, 01:51 PM
Is it December yet?

(couldn't let this thread slip onto page 2)

free
11-18-2007, 02:02 PM
configure: error: cannot find install-sh or install.sh in "." "./.." "./../.."

No joy for xmms at first blush...

I've packaged it but.......
for os2007 :D

I'll port everything again to os2008 when it's official.

There's a thread where I explained a bit how to build xmms.
ogg is waaayy too slow. Otherwise, works quite well. There are some little limitations explained in the thread (in apps sub-forum).
Feel free to ask in the above-mentionned thread if you're stuck anywhere.

JeffElkins
11-18-2007, 02:12 PM
I've packaged it but.......
for os2007 :D

I'll port everything again to os2008 when it's official.

There's a thread where I explained a bit how to build xmms.
ogg is waaayy too slow. Otherwise, works quite well. There are some little limitations explained in the thread (in apps sub-forum).
Feel free to ask in the above-mentionned thread if you're stuck anywhere.

Thanks! I'm off to that thread :)

free
11-18-2007, 03:47 PM
I've ported gkrellm but on OS2007 it blanks out the screen.
While playing a bit with some settings I'm able to see gkrellm.
And.. due to gkrellm, it's constantly showing 100% cpu :)

Maybe somebody can give it a try on os2008.
I'll upload it in a minute.

At least that post is to say that don't bother, it's not a direct port; needs some work.

El Amir
11-18-2007, 04:46 PM
BACK TO THE TOPIC!!! ;)
just found these:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nokia-N810-Internet-Tablet-UMPC-Web-Surfer-PDA_W0QQitemZ130174823706QQihZ003QQcategoryZ38331Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Nokia-N810-Internet-Tablet-brand-new-in-the-Box_W0QQitemZ230192853842QQihZ013QQcategoryZ38331Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

each promissing to send out the n810 as soon as they get them, on the 26th and on the 30th respectively
If we believe that the OS2008 will be simultaneously available with the launch of the n810, its for the end of this month / early december...
( i know, we all know its comming ot in december but thought id share this with you guys...)


PS: still there's a 140 Pounds (~$280) difference vetween both...SCARY!!!

dormant
11-20-2007, 01:42 PM
Where is OS2008?

People are now buying the n810 in shops in the US. Maybe "simultaneous release" has the same error bars as "simultaneous orgasm".

canada3332
11-23-2007, 02:51 PM
Can someone help me out here? I'm away from my PC for a few days and have to use my PowerBook G4 (PPC) running Mac OS X 10.4.8. I've tried the flasher, but I just get the following error:

Bond:/Users/default/Desktop/OS2008 root# ./flasher.macosx -u -F RX-44_2008SE_1.2007.42-18_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin
Invalid FIASCO subblock count (2)

Here is a list of the files in the directory:

-rw-r--r-- 1 default admin 135163751 Nov 23 14:26 RX-44_2008SE_1.2007.42-19_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin
-rwxr-xr-x 1 default admin 128060 Nov 23 14:26 flasher.macosx

I am trying to do this from root, therefore there should be no permission problems.