2008 OS Release Date????

[BOFH]

Is there any update on the release date for 2008 OS update for the N800 yet?

[Khertan]

Yes ... it has been announced to be release at the same time as the n810. :)

[JeffElkins]

I'm curious about updated applications. It's my understanding that everything will have to be recompiled for chinook. That being the case, it'll be a while until I upgrade, unless I can dual-boot between flash and a memory card.

[Khertan]

Not all application need to be compiled.

PyGTKEditor, PyPackager will work as it s python application. Like UKMP.

[hordeman]

PyGTKEditor

That is music to my eyes. :) :) :)

[yabbas]

Haven't installed/updated a thing for a month now pending OS2008 :(

November the 9th is it?

[ioan]

Will be nice if Nokia will release 2008 OS before Google's Android SDK release (nov 16th).

[Karel Jansens]

Not all application need to be compiled.

PyGTKEditor, PyPackager will work as it s python application. Like UKMP.

... provided Python is ported to ITOS2008 first, obviously.

[Nilles]

Wednesday.

[Moonshine]

Wednesday.

Hmm... this Wednesday? Next Wednesday? Wednesday December 5th? :D

And what might this be based on? :eek:

[traveller604]

I'm guessing Nov 19th..

[janjansenbe]

I would say, just wait and see.

Anyhow, the current OS version is doing a great job over here. By the way, you still have to wait for the applications to be converted towards Chinook, isn't it.

[Khertan]

... provided Python is ported to ITOS2008 first, obviously.


Python is already ported for maemo. Take a look at pymaemo.garage.maemo.org :)

[Moonshine]

.... By the way, you still have to wait for the applications to be converted towards Chinook, isn't it.

Yep... but I think many developers would like to have the OS in hand to test their updated app on. Right now many just have to "fly blind" and get confirmation from people who happen to have an N810 or pre-released OS2008. Personally I think we'll see the majority of the porting start once the OS is available to everyone.

[janjansenbe]

Yep... but I think many developers would like to have the OS in hand to test their updated app on. Right now many just have to "fly blind" and get confirmation from people who happen to have an N810 or pre-released OS2008. Personally I think we'll see the majority of the porting start once the OS is available to everyone.

Indeed, so there are 3 possible ways to go:

1. just stick with the current release
2. upgrade asap the OS2008 is available
3. if you rely on particular software, wait until it's ported and tested, and upgrade to OS2008 and install the particular software on top.

[Karel Jansens]

Python is already ported for maemo. Take a look at pymaemo.garage.maemo.org :)

I know. I was -- how to say it? -- "trying to score": Interpreted applications are not immune from platform shift, they're just affected differently.

[EnvyGeeks]

It really depends on the application now doesn't it? Since Python is majority platform independent, it would have to be some hardcore code for it to run into some strong issues. That would be like saying PHP applications are for the most part, not portable from server to server.

[BOFH]

Hmm... this Wednesday? Next Wednesday? Wednesday December 5th? :D

And what might this be based on? :eek:

Once it's not the Wednesday after " Duke Nukem Forever " is released.....

[Khertan]

no it's the wednesday before.

[Karel Jansens]

Once it's not the Wednesday after " Duke Nukem Forever " is released.....

Oh crap. We're so screwed... :rolleyes:

[Nilles]

Duke Nukem Forever is released today? :D

I think i found the information about the update on rss on my n800 (the pre-installed nokia feed).

[Khertan]

I think i found the information about the update on rss on my n800 (the pre-installed nokia feed).

Gnééé i see nothing ...

[RipTorn]

it said something about Wednesday, but I assumed it meant something about releasing news on the new 2008OS last Wednesday, I didn't take it as a release date.

I could be wrong.

[sdrman]

Copy and paste from my rss feed reader:


Nokia N800 Internet Tablet News
11/06/2007 10:19 AM


Be closer to the future
This Wednesday Nokia announced the release of the Nokia N810 Internet Tablet together with the updated maemo Linux based OS2008 operating system. For users of the Nokia N800 Internet Tablet this is great news as OS2008 and the Nokia N800 will work seamlessly together - just upgrade your software and you're ready to go. The key features of OS2008 include improved Adobe Flash 9 plugin and a browser based on Mozilla technology for easy media consumption and creation.
11/01/2007 08:00 AM

[9a6or]

The software upgrade download link (http://www.nokia.co.uk/A4305010) is down... is this a sign??

[zeez]

No. Firmware downloads is the same for all at http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N800.php - and that's up...

[aflegg]

Nokia N800 Internet Tablet News
11/06/2007 10:19 AM

Be closer to the future
This Wednesday Nokia announced the release [...]

What feed is this? One of the official Tableteer/Nokia ones?

[traveller604]

Well I certainly didn't find OS 2008 yet :confused:

also isn't it Tuesday right now? Finland time anyways ;)

[aflegg]

Aha, it is the Nokia Tableteer news page:

http://n800.tableteer.nokia.com/tableteer/rss/internettabletnews.xml

Historically, this feed has a couple of times been slightly ahead of the curve. However, here I think it's late. Very late.

Wednesday, 17th October was when the N810 and OS 2008 were announced.

Edit: The publication date of this item, according to the RSS feed, is Thu, 01 Nov 2007 14:00:00 GMT.

[Nilles]

Damn i thought i was going crazy. I could find the rss message anymore. ;)

Sorry for the excitement...

[dcroennau]

As someone mentioned before that the release of the new N810 and the 2008 OS upgrade will be on the same day have a look at Play.com. They offering the new N810 to pre-order including release date 28/11/2007.


http://www.play.com/Mobiles/Mobile/4-/3514386/-/Product.html?searchstring=n810&searchsource=0


Long way to go :-(

[promethh]

Seeing 11/28 and 12/12, I keep waiting for MobileCityOnline to change their date. They still have 11/23 as their ETA (noted as of today 11/6):
http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=22832&refid=froogle&utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=organic&utm_term=NOKN810&utm_campaign=froogle

I'm their 23rd pre-order. Last I spoke with them, they were expecting a shipment of 50.

[Texrat]

The latest OS2008 build is VERY stable for me now, which it was not as recently as a few weeks ago. So I am confident the feature set is indeed frozen and bugfixing/fnetuning is taking place, as it should. Also battery life is getting better and better (I was worried for a while there). Sorry I cannot provide further details.

[ezuall]

Apology not accepted, the angry mob wants details!

..........:rolleyes: :cool:...........
......:mad: :rolleyes: :cool: :eek:.......
...:confused: :mad: :rolleyes: :cool: :eek:......
:D :o :confused: :mad: :rolleyes: :cool:.....

Just kidding, but I’m so damn excited for OS 2008!

Rock on Tableteers
ezuall

[aflegg]

As someone mentioned before that the release of the new N810 and the 2008 OS upgrade will be on the same day have a look at Play.com. They offering the new N810 to pre-order including release date 28/11/2007.

I wouldn't trust Play.com's dates very much at all, TBH. I've no reason to not believe the "mid-November" which was originally promised. Just hoping it's the earlier bit of "mid" rather than the later :)

[keithlm]

The latest OS2008 build is VERY stable for me now, which it was not as recently as a few weeks ago. So I am confident the feature set is indeed frozen and bugfixing/fnetuning is taking place, as it should. Also battery life is getting better and better (I was worried for a while there). Sorry I cannot provide further details.

I would hope that they would release OS2008 as an open beta before the release of the N810 and regular GA.

Only the brave would load it up... so it would give Nokia a larger base of beta testers.

Although we all know that you would get the people that would mess it up and do it wrong... then complain and moan from now until the end of time. (So you have to ask... are they that bereft of intelligence or are they trolling?)

[Texrat]

There are pros and cons to releasing the OS betas to the public (even a select group), and it looks like for whatever reason the decision is that the cons outweigh the pros. I don't know enough about that situation to render an opinion either way.

[keithlm]

There are pros and cons to releasing the OS betas to the public (even a select group), and it looks like for whatever reason the decision is that the cons outweigh the pros. I don't know enough about that situation to render an opinion either way.

Yes, it can be bad. They could make an open beta that you must register for...

You would need to provide a reason; perhaps show other beta programs you have participated in.

Or there is always the 'unofficial' leaked beta that is not 'condoned' but also not frowned upon. That way it is not 'official' and requires no support. (officially... but they would still take bug reports.)

but it's academic because nokia is keeping tight tabs on this. We'll get it when it is ready.

[lardman]

I wouldn't release the updated software before the n810, would take some of the focus away from it, which would be a bad thing for Nokia.

[maxilogan]

I wouldn't release the updated software before the n810, would take some of the focus away from it, which would be a bad thing for Nokia.

...But as far as we know from Tex, N810s are just waiting for OS2008 to be ready, not the opposite :rolleyes:

[rs-px]

There are pros and cons to releasing the OS betas to the public (even a select group), and it looks like for whatever reason the decision is that the cons outweigh the pros. I don't know enough about that situation to render an opinion either way.

I agree that closed betas are sometimes better, and rarely used in the world of open source. A concentrated group of testers are much more focussed then a huge bugzilla constructed by people who don't really know or care about what they're discussing.

I'm not sure how a closed beta chimes with the GPL, however. If you redistribute modified GPL code, even as part of a restricted beta trial, then you have to make the source code publicly available. You can't restrict access for any reason.

[kotzkind]

I'm not sure how a closed beta chimes with the GPL, however. If you redistribute modified GPL code, even as part of a restricted beta trial, then you have to make the source code publicly available. You can't restrict access for any reason.


That's not true:
If you redistribute soemthing with GPL you must give the source to the people, you give the programm. And they have the right to redistribute it again.

So the betatesters are allowed to make it public. But they won't because they know why it is a closed beta and they want to be beta testers again.

[aflegg]

Similarly, a lot of the source code which is open is already available in Chinook; and the *offer* to provide the source to the people to whom you've distributed the binary needs to be present. Not the source itself.

People on the beta programme could share the binaries of the GPLed code, but not the firmware image itself - as that's not GPLed.

[rs-px]

That's not true:
If you redistribute soemthing with GPL you must give the source to the people, you give the programm. And they have the right to redistribute it again.

So the betatesters are allowed to make it public. But they won't because they know why it is a closed beta and they want to be beta testers again.

I don't understand what you're saying.

If you redistribute a binary compilation of GPL licensed source code, you don't have to "give" the source code to anybody. You have to make it available, maybe at a website, or even printed out if you want. But there's no need to include the source code with every binary you redistribute.

Yes, the beta testers can redistribute the source or the binary. But isn't that what I said? So if somebody tried to run a closed beta project involving modified GPL code, and stopped contributors redistributing the beta, then they would be contravening the GPL. All you could do is ask them not to do so. It's within their rights to do so.

[rs-px]

Similarly, a lot of the source code which is open is already available in Chinook; and the *offer* to provide the source to the people to whom you've distributed the binary needs to be present. Not the source itself.

People on the beta programme could share the binaries of the GPLed code, but not the firmware image itself - as that's not GPLed.

Yes. So I could ask for source code of the GPL components included in the firmware image file, but that doesn't mean I have a right to ask for the source code for the entire firmeware image. Effectively here the firmware image is a container archive, like a zip or tarball, containing lots of separate binaries.

[kotzkind]

I don't understand what you're saying.

If you redistribute a binary compilation of GPL licensed source code, you don't have to "give" the source code to anybody. You have to make it available, maybe at a website, or even printed out if you want. But there's no need to include the source code with every binary you redistribute.


You don't have to make the source available or ship it with the package. You just have to give the source to that people you gave the binary if they ask.
You don't have to do more but you can.

And thats one weak point of the GPL.

When write a apllication for a companie with GPL and make it public and a other companie makes the code better and sells the application to a third companie for in-companie use, nobody has to give you the code. Only the second companie has to give the third companie the code, if they demand it.

Nobody has to give you any GPLed code until you get something under the GPL.

[Texrat]

Yes. So I could ask for source code of the GPL components included in the firmware image file, but that doesn't mean I have a right to ask for the source code for the entire firmeware image. Effectively here the firmware image is a container archive, like a zip or tarball, containing lots of separate binaries.

Has everyone seen the new source disclaimer coming with OS2008? I think I saw it made public somewhere (I'm not gonna do it though :p)...

[JeffElkins]

I just hope we're not looking at too long a lag for the major apps to be recompiled. Top of the list for me would be FBReader.

[Texrat]

I was not encouraged by the response to my poll on the subject...

[JeffElkins]

What poll are you referring to Tex?

[dormant]

Is it mid-November yet?

[Texrat]

Nope... :p

[kotzkind]

Nope... :p

Is mid november from 10. 11. 2007 to 20. 11. 2007?

[profusion]

Is mid november from 10. 11. 2007 to 20. 11. 2007?


Mid would be the 15th. Given its a thursday, they might just release it on the friday.
Thats my best guess.

[Bigga]

I'm losing my mind here! Will someone from Nokia please drop me a line and give me a release date before I go crazy! :eek:

[Texrat]

Sure: soon. :D

[dormant]

texrat, you're enjoying this aren't you?

[zerojay]

As he always does. ;)

[Mika73]

This is just like when we waited Skype earlyer.. Oh when.. when.. :)

I tryed N810 at DigiExpo Finland last weekend and OS did look nice.

[dormant]

It's almost as bad as when the n800 was released - myself and a colleague were checking the Nokia website on an hourly basis.

[Texrat]

Slow down to daily and you won't be as disappointed. :p

[nef919]

Odds are that I will be picking one up on release. That said, I'm not too happy with Nokia releasing the 810 less than a year after the n800. The killer for me is the integrated gps. Its never easy waiting for a new device, however I can't imagine that they are still working on it this close to release. I mean they still have to be shipped to retailers and such... Then again I might just be telling myself that so the wait doesn't consume me....

[Texrat]

Again: the N810 is not a direct replacement for the N810. It's an adjunct. With that in mind, there would have been no real harm in even releasing them simultaneously.

And don't confuse the hardware with the software. There's nothing unusual in refining the software at this point given what I said about flashing. More time for bug finding and fixing, right? Which is a GOOD thing. ;)

[belder]

I would rather wait for the OS update and have things work. I know it won't be perfect, but if the cool new features didn't work then they would sure hear about it on this board. <g>

[Khertan]

the N810 is not a direct replacement for the N810


Oh ? Serious ? ;)

[wls]

Odds are that I will be picking one up on release. That said, I'm not too happy with Nokia releasing the 810 less than a year after the n800. ....

I'm sorry that Nokia didn't consult with you on that but as I see it they HAD to get something out before Xmas. There are an increasing number of rumors and events pointing to Apple comming out with an Internet Tablet in January and if Nokia waited untill then they would have been blown out of the water by Apple in this category. This way they pick up the early adoptors and the Xmas gift market. I'm tempted too but if Nokia hasn't released the 810 by month's end I will just sit on my hands a bit longer and see what all the hoopla is going to be at Macworld. I want to see some reviews on this also to see if it matches expectations. Is the GPS any good?- A slow GPS is not worth wasting time on.
Will Nokia put it's new screen vibration feedback technology in the 810 and why not?
Will there be enogh new apps available to make it usefull? Shells, directory utils, text readers and ports of C64 programs don't count - how many of those do you need anyway?

[nef919]

I'm sorry that Nokia didn't consult with you on that but as I see it they HAD to get something out before Xmas. There are an increasing number of rumors and events pointing to Apple comming out with an Internet Tablet in January and if Nokia waited untill then they would have been blown out of the water by Apple in this category. This way they pick up the early adoptors and the Xmas gift market. I'm tempted too but if Nokia hasn't released the 810 by month's end I will just sit on my hands a bit longer and see what all the hoopla is going to be at Macworld. I want to see some reviews on this also to see if it matches expectations. Is the GPS any good?- A slow GPS is not worth wasting time on.
Will Nokia put it's new screen vibration feedback technology in the 810 and why not?
Will there be enogh new apps available to make it usefull? Shells, directory utils, text readers and ports of C64 programs don't count - how many of those do you need anyway?

There are always rumors of apple releasing something. I would like to see what they come up with. As for the haptic feedback I think that has been answered elsewhere. (no, maybe on the 900) Why they aren't you would have to ask a Finn in the know. If there aren't enough apps for your tastes then code some. As for the GPS, it will meet most of my needs as I want to use this on my motorcycle to keep track of my routes to and from customer sites, track mileage and if things work out correctly take advantage of the location awareness feature. I am not a developer by any stetch of the imagination, but I can with the help of some friends that are cobble something together that does what I want it to. Not a game player so that is not something that I need. You can see some early reviews of preprod units at sites mentioned in this post http://www.tablet-guru.com/2007/10/nokia-n810-after-the-dust-has-settled/#comment-2499
I didn't see the need to jump on me to try and make your point. I am a fan of technology and gadgets. I buy them to play with them. Some I end up putting to some use if they make my cut, the others I give to people that have a use for them. Thats me. I would have liked to see Nokia Take a bit longer to come to market with a new tablet that had many of the features you are talking about,. I would also like to see them dedicate some time and resources to advertising and marketing, which in my ignorant opinion would do much towards getting these to sell better.

[gsagers]

Will there be enough new apps available to make it usefull? Shells, directory utils, text readers and ports of C64 programs don't count - how many of those do you need anyway?

Well, that depends - how many are there? Porting is kind of like mountain climbing - you do it just because it's there. I have absolutely no practical use for Bochs on this device, but I cross-compiled it nonetheless!

[fanoush]

Now that's strange. Reggie releases today new site design "To celebrate the the launch of Internet Tablet OS 2008". The wiki page http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_flashlatestnokiaimagewithlinux/ got today new N810 section with placeholder download link. And it is Friday. Well looks like the meal could be on table soon :-) Too bad in some restaurants they bring you the cutlery and then you still wait ages for the meal.

[aleksandyr]

Anybody want to try that with a valid N810 MAC Address? :)

[fanoush]

it is empty, just licence file

[Khertan]

Well, that depends - how many are there? Porting is kind of like mountain climbing - you do it just because it's there. I have absolutely no practical use for Bochs on this device, but I cross-compiled it nonetheless!

I've compiled boch too ... compiling it is much easier than trying to use it :) I 've it but i don't know how to use it :)

Huhu !

Yesterday this page : http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N810.php return a 404.

Today this page exist ! :)

EDIT : owned ... i ve not seen previous post. :)

[fanoush]

oh, it is up for n810
RX-44_2008SE_1.2007.42-18_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin

Still nothing new for N800 :-(

[Khertan]

tic ... tac ... tic ... tac ...

:)

[maxilogan]

Uh, oh... today is Friday! Any hope? :rolleyes:

[BOFH]

Now that's strange. Reggie releases today new site design "To celebrate the the launch of Internet Tablet OS 2008". The wiki page http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_flashlatestnokiaimagewithlinux/ got today new N810 section with placeholder download link. And it is Friday. Well looks like the meal could be on table soon :-) Too bad in some restaurants they bring you the cutlery and then you still wait ages for the meal.

Hopefully they with do it like the German's and give you your beer first while you are looking over the menu.....

[BOFH]

Anybody want to try that with a valid N810 MAC Address? :)

Krieg,

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p60/BOFH139/N8x0/Firmware_Download.jpg

The folder only has a Licence and MD5 file :/

Lets see if we can force a download......., ;



http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p60/BOFH139/N8x0/Firmware_Download2.jpg

[Khertan]

So :

RX-44_2008SE_1.2007.42-18_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin is a fake ?

[dblank]

oh, it is up for n810
RX-44_2008SE_1.2007.42-18_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin


up where?
http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N810.php ?

[fanoush]

up where?
http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N810.php ?
yes, was there, now it is gone, it is still linked here
http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_flashlatestnokiaimagewithlinux/

[dblank]

so... did anyone happen to snag it before it went *poof*?

:)

[BOFH]

so... did anyone happen to snag it before it went *poof*?

:)

Feck, I think I just missed it,.....



<br />
<b>Warning</b>: fopen(/data2/tabletsdev/nokia_N810/downloads/RX-44_2008SE_1.2007.42-18_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in <b>/data2/tabletsdev/nokia_N810.php</b> on line <b>217</b><br />
<br />
<b>Warning</b>: fpassthru(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in <b>/data2/tabletsdev/nokia_N810.php</b> on line <b>218</b><br />
<br />
<b>Warning</b>: fclose(): supplied argument is not a valid stream resource in <b>/data2/tabletsdev/nokia_N810.php</b> on line <b>219</b><br />

[fanoush]

so... did anyone happen to snag it before it went *poof*?

not me, got cut off at ~90% :-(
rootfs alone should have 131334144 bytes and my download size was slightly shorter than that.

But true that I got the beer like BOFH said :-) I need only initfs for customizing bootmenu and its image is on the beginning.

[salida]

So....

A lot of discussion, but i still wonder if anoyone knows the exact release date of OS2008.Should we wait it at 11th or at 14th or whatelse...???

[belder]

If I understand correctly, no one knows 'when' right now. I'm using this forum as my guide and info source as to when and where to download OS2008. I suspect it will posted here as soon as anything new is available. Even then, I am prone to wait and read your reviews to see if there are any "The new OS bricked my N800" posts.

[RobMtl007]

Greetings:

Maybe Nokia was just testing to see if the new OS would showup on the list.

In the past OS updates have been posted on friday.

I'm in Montreal, and in Finland its already 14:30 in the afternoon so I don't think Nokia would release the 2008 OS Today.

I think it will happen next friday on November 16, 2007.

Regards Robert

[Khertan]

sniff ...

14h30 ... why not ... the last one was post at 14h38 if i remember :)

But firmware ll be available at the same time than the n810. And announcing a the availability of a new device before the week end isn't a good thing i think.

[ankkuri]

http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/maemo_4-0_chinook_released.html

Final SDK is available at least now.

[Khertan]

It 's hot :

http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/maemo_4-0_chinook_released.html

edit : arg owned ^^

[kotzkind]

http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/4.0/3.2_vs_4.0_content_comparison.html
autoconf
autoconf2.13
automake1.7
automake1.8
on armel. This means we can compile on the nokia, or?

gcc and g++ also available on armel.

[fanoush]

hmm, still no firmware

[penguinbait]

hmm, still no firmware

Have another soda, the meal should be here soon..:D

[Mara]

Unless you own N810 the new firmware (likely today?) is not doing you any good... :(

Hang on "N800 guys".... maybe only a week more... :rolleyes: :D

EDIT: Nobody remember this?
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=86540&postcount=7

[Khertan]

... I Want To Believe ...

[dormant]

Is it mid-November yet?

[jmancine]

This thread reminds me of kids in the back seat....."Are we there yet?!"

[dormant]

Those people waiting for the news via this forum will be disappointed. Everyone will be off downloading the file as soon as it appears.

So look for a lull in posting activity.

What time do Finns stop work on a Friday? I need to leave the house at some stage.

[Khertan]

"Those people waiting for the news via this forum will be disappointed"

In fact it s more for fun, today it's a boring day ... friday ... :)

[Moby]

So what is everyone going to do when the firmware arrives? Does everyone suddenly have an N810 to use it with?

[Reggie]

It should be out very soon, very soon... :)

[jmancine]

I predict a flurry of posts lamenting the fact that an n800 firmware upgrade is not available...just a guess. :)

[Tuxedosteve]

So what is everyone going to do when the firmware arrives? Does everyone suddenly have an N810 to use it with?

Err. OS2008 is going to be available on the N800 too.

[BOFH]

Err. OS2008 is going to be available on the N800 too.

But there is going to be someone who will try and flash the N810 firmware onto a N800 :) - PEBKAC

[jmancine]

Err. OS2008 is going to be available on the N800 too.

Yes, but will we be able to download it immediately? Probably not.

[Tuxedosteve]

Yes, but will we be able to download it immediately? Probably not.

I thought I was replying to someone who didn't know what we'd do with a OS2008 firmware without a N810. The answer is we install the version that works on the N800. Obviously the N810 firmware is no good to the N800 owners.

This part of the thread rapidly descended into redundancy I think.

[dormant]

It should be out very soon, very soon... :)

Reggie, first I must apologise profusely for misreading your name when I read your post. The second half of your surname got rearranged slightly, with an extra "d".

I didn't mean it, honestly.

===============================

How "soon" is "soon"? How long is a piece of string? Why am I sitting indoors waiting to see if anythiing happens on a website far, far away instead of going to the beach (today is a holiday in Trinidad).

[maxilogan]

It should be out very soon, very soon... :)

Swear it! :D

[maxilogan]

How "soon" is "soon"? How long is a piece of string? Why am I sitting indoors waiting to see if anythiing happens on a website far, far away instead of going to the beach (today is a holiday in Trinidad).

Well, at least we have an excuse, since in italy is becoming quite cold and windy (but nohting will stop me from riding my mtb tomorrow, and bid on a used Rock shox Duke fork this evening, while I'll check ITT on a minute basis :D )

[hitec]

Interesting website is live now. N800 product id will not work.:mad:
http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N810.php

[maxilogan]

Interesting website is live now. N800 product id will not work.:mad:
http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N810.php

Relatively old news, sorry :D (at this time, being "old" is a matter of 15 minutes ;) )

[ebunny]

You are correct my N800 product ID did not work when i tried to enter it also??:(

[Texrat]

I thought I was replying to someone who didn't know what we'd do with a OS2008 firmware without a N810. The answer is we install the version that works on the N800. Obviously the N810 firmware is no good to the N800 owners.

This part of the thread rapidly descended into redundancy I think.

Not necessarily. It is possible to create images that install to either device (incorporating device type detection).

[aleksandyr]

Someone please explain to me how I'm supposed to focus at work when I've gotta check ITT every five or six seconds.

[ebunny]

Someone please explain to me how I'm supposed to focus at work when I've gotta check ITT every five or six seconds.
I second that!!!!!!!!!!

[jmancine]

I'm confused. What is this countdown all about?

http://web.nseries.com/truestories/

[Khertan]

texrat >

Don't twist the knife in the wound

[Texrat]

jmancine: Wimax tablet maybe?

[Moonshine]

Very interesting... that drops us right on next Wednesday...

[Khertan]

So see u wednesday for an other Suspense day.

;)

edit : it's 18h15 in finland ...

[traveller604]

Wednesday.. I'm guessing they'll announce N82

[BOFH]

Feck this I'm going to the pub.... (which does have wifi so I'll still be checking every 2 min's.....)

[Texrat]

Ah. Silly me, I thought 115 days...

[Toontje]

jmancine: Wimax tablet maybe?

Talking about that. How is that going to work now then? Will we have an WiMax enabled N810 only? Or a patch/chip/thingy to enable WiMax on the N810? If so, will that patch/chip/mod/thingy work on the N800/770 as well? Or will we have 5 devices, a 770, two N800's and two N810's?

Ton.

[jmancine]

This is a publicised release "event" for the 810 on 11/14/07. Unless there's another nseries release impending . I'm no insider, but I can't imagine they would advertise a release date and then do it 5 days early. But perhaps it will happen...

[ezuall]

I'm helping you guys to build the longest thread in history. We can make it, quickly someone allude to having some inside information on the release time :-)

My money is on next Wednesday for now, but who knows?

But seriously, I can't wait for OS2008
e

[Texrat]

Talking about that. How is that going to work now then? Will we have an WiMax enabled N810 only? Or a patch/chip/thingy to enable WiMax on the N810? If so, will that patch/chip/mod/thingy work on the N800/770 as well? Or will we have 5 devices, a 770, two N800's and two N810's?

Ton.

I don't have all the details, but the public announcement is a variant of the N800 supporting Wimax. That's it. So 4 devices by spring 2008.

And ezuall: Oh no you didn't!!! :p

[Greyghost]

Someone please explain to me how I'm supposed to focus at work when I've gotta check ITT every five or six seconds.

I agree. This is a most difficult position to be in. Must...not...explode...

[Texrat]

Stay off jaiku then. :p

[aleksandyr]

Argh argh argh argh, I'm in a pre-WiMax area, which means near-global Skype/Gizmo coverage, which means freedom BUT ALSO another glorious device I will have to carry everywhere.

Good thing Amazon's selling the SCOTTEVEST 12-pocket super-tech-carry-jackets for $50 today :D

[Moby]

Err. OS2008 is going to be available on the N800 too.I understood that already, but it has already been said that N800 version will not be available at the same time. My point was that since few people have N810 in their hands then getting the OS2008 firmware downloaded would not really be of much use.

Anyway, if OS2008 version is available for N810 then first thing that will happen is N810 will be announced as shipping.

[belder]

This is kind of what I imagine New Years Eve is for dogs. They're not sure when it really is going to happen but get pretty excited whenever it is.

[El Amir]

just read the WHOLE thread...:(
really can't wait for the 2008OS....
my money is on this...
http://web.nseries.com/truestories/
chrismas is just around the corner...maybe a nokia chrismas-based advert?

[devaler]

just read the WHOLE thread...:(
really can't wait for the 2008OS....
my money is on this...
http://web.nseries.com/truestories/
chrismas is just around the corner...maybe a nokia chrismas-based advert?

So, we have 4.5 days until we see the man behind the curtain?

[blackdog]

Somebody get me a paper bag! I'm hyperventilating.

[spacey]

wow. this is too cool...

[Kozzi]

This is a publicised release "event" for the 810 on 11/14/07. Unless there's another nseries release impending . I'm no insider, but I can't imagine they would advertise a release date and then do it 5 days early. But perhaps it will happen...

Or this could be the release of N82.

http://www.slashphone.com/70/8786.html

[sachin007]

yeah looks like it is for the n82. Why Would they do it for a Product that was already annouced. i Personally think that it will be releasd in the 3rd week of the month

[kotzkind]

http://maemo.org/ shows for me a clear page. Is it updated?

[belder]

I got this page (http://europe.nokia.com/A4579470). The OS2008 link just refreshed the page.

[jmancine]

After this, I can't imagine how many posts there are going to be next week when we're pretty sure something is going to happen.

I just read on Nokia WOM that next wednesday is the release of "the next n-series" device. This isn't clear since both the n810 and n82 are due.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say it will be the n82, the n810 will follow later in the week, and it will be another week (or more) before n800 users can legitimately download os2008.

Until then. :)

[martin_d]

Let us face the facts:
- The N810 hardware (for some time) and software (since friday) seem to be ready.
- Friday was the European launch of the iPhone, obviously not a good date to release another device.

So the release is only a matter of marketing and distribution!

[dormant]

I'm helping you guys to build the longest thread in history. We can make it, quickly someone allude to having some inside information on the release time :-)


We'll have OS2009 before we beat even the longest thread on ITT - there's an mplayer thread with 527 replies and a staggering 84,727 views.

[JeffElkins]

I'm curious about updated applications. It's my understanding that everything will have to be recompiled for chinook. That being the case, it'll be a while until I upgrade, unless I can dual-boot between flash and a memory card.

My main must-have app is FBReader and I was happy to learn they have the app ready for chinook, so I'm mostly good-to-go :)

[theox26]

so, no one noticed this yet?

http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/maemo_4-0_chinook_released.html

says it's out and has the links to it

[zerojay]

so, no one noticed this yet?

http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/maemo_4-0_chinook_released.html

says it's out and has the links to it

It's the SDK, not the image.

[YoDude]

The latest update to the Wayfinder site says...

This premium service brought to you in cooperation with Nokia is expected to be available in December.

I thought it originally said something like October 27 :confused:

http://www.wayfinder.com/?id=5356

I hope this is not an indicator of Nokia's plans :eek:

[JeffElkins]

The latest update to the Wayfinder site says...
I thought it originally said something like October 27 :confused:
http://www.wayfinder.com/?id=5356 I hope this is not an indicator of Nokia's plans :eek:

"Free preloaded map application can be upgraded for voice guided turn-by-turn navigation. This premium service brought to you in cooperation with Nokia is expected to be available in December."

Yikes! That pisses in the punchbowl :(

[blackdog]

Phooey.http://mydocuments/mypictures/phooey.jpg

[blackdog]

Oops...there was supposed to be a picture of this.., from Engadget

Posted Nov 11th 2007 8:08PM by Chris Ziegler
Filed under: Cellphones, Handhelds

Alright, there's not much to look at here, but we get the idea. Curtains, a countdown timer, "Nokia Nseries" logo at the top -- can only mean one thing, right? We're less than three days away from some sort of announcement from Nokia's smartphone group here, and with the groundswell of N82 buzz the past few days, we'd say the odds of an official N82 launch going down here lie somewhere between "high" and "very high." Stay tuned, folks.

[Via Slashphone]

[zerojay]

Everyone I've talked to that would know say that we're probably going to see the N810 released this week or next and IT2008 released for N800 the week after.

[airbillion]

I pre-ordered an n810 from Amazon yesterday, today I received an email from them saying that they have confirmed shipping dates and I should expect it to be shipped between November 20-27. Looks like it will happen next week!

[PLeBlanc]

Does anyone have a nice sandy spot that I can bury my head in until it is released? This waiting is like being in the waiting office at the dentist. You know it is good for you, and you can't think about anything else, but you know there is pain and waiting right now.

[hircus]

Argh. Had I known Amazon would offer it right at launch time, I would not have pre-ordered from MCO (I have Amazon Prime two-day shipping). Oh well, wouldn't be fair to them to cancel. How fast does Nokia stock its resellers, does anyone know?

[traveller604]

Chinook released (http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/maemo_4-0_chinook_released.html)

Rather dumb announcement.. I sure as hell don't see it yet :(

[convulted]

Chinook released (http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/maemo_4-0_chinook_released.html)

Rather dumb announcement.. I sure as hell don't see it yet :(

The API and SDK were released, not the OS itself.

[ankkuri]

Chinook released (http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/maemo_4-0_chinook_released.html)

Rather dumb announcement.. I sure as hell don't see it yet :(Announcement topic may be missing the magic keyword "SDK" so that outsiders "get it", but maemo is the development environment (and yes, Chinook is available here (http://repository.maemo.org/stable/chinook/)). Internet OS 2008, that people here seem to be waiting for, is slightly different :rolleyes:

Maybe the topic should say "OS2008 for N800 Release Date" instead.. And whenever that is remains unknown.

Btw I think Nokia is using the word "Release" to mean "Announcement" (such event will probably happen to N82 or whatever is the next big symbian/S60 multimedia computer).

Availability could be the word used for what we're after here.

[N770-Freak]

What about that:

I opened the tableteer page with OS2007 microB and saw the following page (look at my attachment, red border). Are they serious? I thought that OS2008 for N800 will be released mid november!

[maxilogan]

What about that:

I opened the tableteer page with OS2007 microB and saw the following page (look at my attachment, red border). Are they serious? I thought that OS2008 for N800 will be released mid november!

Well, I'd sure be very disappointed by that. Supposed Nokia will release the N810 before December, which I hope. They promised the release of the OS2008 same time as N810 availability...

A friend of mine told me that as a beta-tester is almost sure for end of this week, but do not get these words as gold :rolleyes:

[Texrat]

Hang on guys. That information was recently qualified to explain that the OS2008 release for the N800 will come shortly after the N810 launch, not quite simultaneously. However, this is a delay of 1 to 2 weeks only.

Mid November runs from this past weekend to next weekend. December is not very far away from that. ;)

[belder]

I'd rather wait and have a stable, working OS than to rush it and have a bad experience. Good things are coming! They really are!

[jnack95]

I like "During December". Guess they're saving it for a Christmas present.......time to quit caring for a month. I wish they could stick to their plans....e.g on the maemo page it specifically stated "a few" weeks nearly a month ago...but I don't want to start That debate again. I guess we'll get it when they're ready to give it ....until then, adios...............

[maxilogan]

Hang on guys. That information was recently qualified to explain that the OS2008 release for the N800 will come shortly after the N810 launch, not quite simultaneously. However, this is a delay of 1 to 2 weeks only.

Mid November runs from this past weekend to next weekend. December is not very far away from that. ;)

OUCH!! Weren't the two ITs supposed to be "almost" the same hardware? :mad:

[devaler]

Me too: gimme a stable release, and I'll be happy to wait.

[N770-Freak]

I think it's only marketing! The OS2008 should be the same for N810 and N800 ... perhaps the flash-image differs a bit. If N810 will be launched this week with final firmware, I don't think that they will change anything for the N800 (that wouldn't make sense).

[Mara]

What if you think about this in marketing standpoint:

Wouldn't you like to show the N810 as a great new device? With new OS, the N810 looks and feels a lot better than N800... If the N800 was released the OS at the same time, lots of this "brand new and great" things and benefits will disappear... and hurt N810 initial sales?

That's just my guess why the N800 OS release is scheduled later than N810 (and its OS release).

[Texrat]

OUCH!! Weren't the two ITs supposed to be "almost" the same hardware? :mad:

Yep. I won't speculate further as to the delay (and have not seen the official reason) but why worry over a week or two?

[Texrat]

I like "During December". Guess they're saving it for a Christmas present.......time to quit caring for a month. I wish they could stick to their plans....e.g on the maemo page it specifically stated "a few" weeks nearly a month ago...but I don't want to start That debate again. I guess we'll get it when they're ready to give it ....until then, adios...............

Delays happen. Nothing new.

While I of course have a different level of involvement here, I'd rather deal with the slight delay here over the several months delays involved with certain unnamed product launches... :o

[Greyghost]

Delays happen. Nothing new.

I know, I know...but it doesn't make it any easier:o

However, since I really do have to stop checking this forum every five minutes, knowing it'll be weeks instead of days means I can go back to my life (sort of) for a while....Thanks, tho, TR for keeping us 'in the loop'.

[skorianez]

I want it :)

[TA-t3]

Look at the bright side folks.. you won't have to go through the dreaded "flash the device and reinstall all my painstakingly collected applications and configurations" as early as you feared.. holding off on that for a bit longer is good, isn't it?

Besides, as at least the graphical applications need to be ported for OS2008 you get to use your perfectly good OS2007 versions for a bit longer.. and the delay increases the chance for a couple more of them being ready when the OS upgrade finally arrives! :D

[Texrat]

Actually, OS2008 makes reinstalling your old apps a LOT easier. :D

[Toontje]

I'd rather wait and have a stable, working OS than to rush it and have a bad experience. Good things are coming! They really are!

I'd rather "rush it" and crash. Then i have a good reason to complain again. :p After all, didn't we do that when Vista came out? And Leopard? And now OS2008. All nice and cool. Latest and greatest, but there we go with apps incompatibilities. Of course, most will work. Except that one application that YOU rely on and that worked so well on the previous OS release.

Ton.

[Texrat]

Current OS2008 prerelease is very stable for me. :)

[anderbr]

Current OS2008 prerelease is very stable for me. :)

That's it Tex - rub it in that *you* have it and we lowlife's have to wait!:mad:

[TA-t3]

Actually, OS2008 makes reinstalling your old apps a LOT easier. :D
Isn't that only true for the _next_ OS2008 upgrade? I mean, when you've got OS2008 safely installed then future upgrades will be easier than before.. ?

[Texrat]

Different scenario, TA. I'm just saying reinstalling apps will be easier.

Oh, and sorry anderbr-- that was meant as reassurance, not gloating.

[barry99705]

Different scenario, TA. I'm just saying reinstalling apps will be easier.

Oh, and sorry anderbr-- that was meant as reassurance, not gloating.

At least you're not posting screen shots. :D

[Texrat]

At least you're not posting screen shots. :D

I was beat to it. :D

[Mika73]

How about backup to memorycard, is it possible restore OS2007 backup to OS2008.. Atleast bookmarks would be nice to have.

[Texrat]

OS2008 had no problems loading and restoring my OS2007 backup file.

caveat: there was issue-- default bluetooth phone had to be reselected afterwards

[dormant]

Aagh! I have a friend coming to visit in the first half of December, a friend who will not want me to spend time fiddling with my n800 - she sees it as a PDA and assumes that it "just works".

Then I'm off working for 10 days, and may not have a good internet connection. Maybe none at all.

Looks as if my OS2008 won't be installed until 2008.

[maxilogan]

Yep. I won't speculate further as to the delay (and have not seen the official reason) but why worry over a week or two?

ehr... just because I'm anxious... isn't it a good reason?! ;) list of the things I'm waiting in the next few days: Rock Shox Duke SL U-turn mtb fork, 8GB SDHC card ordered and payed on ebay over a month ago (####### customs!), OS2008.

now I guess you understand me.. :D

[YoDude]

Yep. I won't speculate further as to the delay (and have not seen the official reason) but why worry over a week or two?


More than likely a marketing decision. If I were them I would give the N810 a two week head start before releasing the OS to an established (and vocal) user base such as ours.

This will allow the initial reviews to be done using the 810. New hardware, new users, new OS = more enthusiastic posts.

Much better than... "I can't believe they didn't correct bug XYZ" or worse; the armchair, Monday morning quarterback comments about who they should market what to when...

It also gives developers another month to provide OS2008 apps and hopefully will forgo the "It doesn't run my XYZ app, I'm going to roll back" posts.

Also hopefully, enough members who qualified/won the discount will post so that N800 users will be able to decide when the best time to upgrade is VS. jumping in as soon as it's available. :)

[fpp]

Yup. A few days more, a few bugs less. I'm all for it :-)

[delsvr]

If you visit the OS2008 "user site" with your N800, it says that OS2008 won't be available until December.

[technut]

If you visit the OS2008 "user site" with your N800, it says that OS2008 won't be available until December.Welcome to ITT. You found the right thread, but you didn't read post #157 first before chiming in.

[nubiatech]

I just feel compelled to post on this thread :)
So to recap:
"Official" OS2008 -when released- would be found on:
http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N800.php
http://europe.nokia.com/A4307030
and the announcements on http://maemo.org/news/announcements/

and where else?

[BOFH]

Looks like we are very close.....

I just got an email from Maemo.org regarding the "N810 maemo device program", so the N810 should be out today or tomorrow :)

[aflegg]

Did you get a different email to the rest of us? There was nothing to suggest today or tomorrow in the one I got...

[BOFH]

Did you get a different email to the rest of us? There was nothing to suggest today or tomorrow in the one I got...

Prob same email but IIRC the Device Voucher page said they would award the voucher on the day before the release.....

[aflegg]

Ah. I read it differently in the latest email, and various comments Quim's made: it seems they've changed their minds though:

You can't still do anything with it since we decided to select the
winners even before the sales start of the new device. We will send you
a notification as soon as the N810 is available in the online Nokia shop
you selected.

Still... it won't be long. I'm guessing late this week or early/middle of next.

[N770-Freak]

I found these interesting lines:
http://europe.nokia.com/A4305010
Get the Nokia N800 Internet Tablet's latest software version

The OS2008 will be available for free on N800 - For the courtesy of N800 users, we will launch the online availibility of the software during December with the OS2008 performance upgrade. Performance upgrade is based on early user feedback collected through November. For further information on OS2008 go to www.nokia.com/OS2008

Performance upgrade? Seems that the N810 Software isn't ready for launch yet, so they will release an update in december :D

It seems that N800 users won't get an update this month! Sorry Texrat, your 1-2 weeks will be one more month :(

[fanoush]

yes, was there, now it is gone, it is still linked here
http://maemo.org/community/wiki/howto_flashlatestnokiaimagewithlinux/

Just FYI - the N810 RX-44_2008SE_1.2007.42-18_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM.bin image is back :-)

Of course many experts here said that is is completely worthless for anyone with N800 so perhaps you can just ignore this post ;-)

[Texrat]

month! Sorry Texrat, your 1-2 weeks will be one more month :(

Sorry, but things slip. I'm not official anyway (see disclaimer). :p

[jmancine]

Why doesn't the "Remind me again..." link on the Nokia OS2008 page do anything? I'd love to be able to get an email when it is released instead of wearing out my refresh button on ITT. :)

[flareup]

"The OS2008 will be available for free on N800 - For the courtesy of N800 users, we will launch the online availibility of the software during December with the OS2008 performance upgrade. Performance upgrade is based on early user feedback collected through November. For further information on OS2008 go to www.nokia.com/OS2008"

performance upgrade?

and no skype at all yet for os2008 anyway?

takes the edge off not getting the discount :(

[fanoush]

This link redirects me to the software authentication page. Where can i download the image itself since my N800 doesn't have a N810 serial number...?
Sadly you have to provide N810 serial number (wi-fi MAC address). It is firmware for N810 after all :-)

[BOFH]

This link redirects me to the software authentication page. Where can i download the image itself since my N800 doesn't have a N810 serial number...?

Use GIMP to enhance the images of the N810 back panel that is floating around the internet.......

[Jupex]

But the N810 image won't install?

[fanoush]

But as explained it is not meant for N800 so get it only if you have any use for it.

[fanoush]

But the N810 image won't install?
Yes, that is the question :-)

[Toontje]

But as explained it is not meant for N800 so get it only if you have any use for it.

But didn't Texrat say that it was just one image for N800 and N810? As in Device Detection and all?

I'm going to try it anyway. If it bricks my N800 i can always tell Nokia that Texrat told me it was safe. :p

Ton.

[zeez]

I think he said it was possible - not that it will be the case.

[Toontje]

I think he said it was possible - not that it will be the case.

I would still blame him. After all, he broke his neighbors amplifier. :D

Ton.

[Toontje]

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/7342/updateed7.th.jpg (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=updateed7.jpg) :mad:

[fanoush]

Oh, you expected it to be easy, right?

[anidel]

Where do you guys got it ?
I wanna try with the Linux/Mac flasher

[aflegg]

Best bet would be to extract the individual parts of the FIASCO image and try flashing them separately.

[fanoush]

Best bet would be to extract the individual parts of the FIASCO image and try flashing them separately.
Right. Unless it needs some newer version of bootloader (it feeds some data to kernel at startup) there is some chance it will work. Flashing RX-44 bootloader from the FIASCO image sounds like a paperweight way :-)

[anidel]

I am pretty sure that just running the linux flasher will work. It's is the same flasher binary as usual, so I am pretty sure it won't make any check.

[Texrat]

I would still blame him. After all, he broke his neighbors amplifier. :D

Ton.

:D

Yeah, it *can* be a single image, but I'm not saying that's how you guys will see it. You'd know it right off if it was.

[Jupex]

Someone skilled should Hax0r the image :D or maybe haxor N800 to tell the installer that it's actually a N810 :)

[maxinflixion]

Just a silly thought. It IS called OS2008.

My calendar says 2007.

[markku]

Just a silly thought. It IS called OS2008.

My calendar says 2007.

Good point and I'm getting this feeling that maybe N810 is not even available until 01/2008. Getting info here and there, so it seems to be that OS2008 won't be available in this year. Even Skype is not ready for OS2008 yet.

[BOFH]

I think it is one Firmware to Rule them ALL ;



0B 70 6F 69 6E 74 65 72 63 61 6C 2D 6C 73 30 34
31 79 33 2D 4E 38 30 30 2D 42 32 2E 64 65 66 61
75 6C 74 FF


pointercal-ls041y3-N800-B2.defaultÿ



There are a total of 75 references to " N800 " in the image I've found so far.... ,

[peterjb31]

We shall see...

[BOFH]

Anybody know the HW Key press for forced flashing on the N800?



00 55 53 42 20 68 6F 73 74 20 64 65 74 65 63 74
65 64 00 00 00 46 6F 72 63 69 6E 67 20 66 6C 61
73 68 69 6E 67 20 6D 6F 64 65 20 64 75 65 20 74
6F 20 48 57 20 6B 65 79 20 70 72 65 73 73 00 00
00


USB host detected...Forcing flashing mode due to HW key press...

[Jupex]

Could there be date inspection?

[anidel]

I don't think so

[Jupex]

would be too easy for us :)

[Texrat]

hee hee hee

[anidel]

So, well.. I think we shouldn't play with not officially released stuff anyway :)
I can only confirm it's a 2.6.21 kernel. That's an upgrade over the 2.6.18.

Seems there'll be no way to install it as is on the N800.

[anidel]

hee hee hee

:p :cool:

You love it, don't you ? :)

[GeneralAntilles]

So, well.. I think we shouldn't play with not officially released stuff anyway :)


Ha . . . you're kidding, right? Are the Nokia goons gonna come and take away our NITs and replace them with PocketPCs? The God of Brick will smite us down like a bunch of heathens? :rolleyes:

[anidel]

Who knows :D

[traveller604]

Good point and I'm getting this feeling that maybe N810 is not even available until 01/2008. Getting info here and there, so it seems to be that OS2008 won't be available in this year. Even Skype is not ready for OS2008 yet.

Yet it says on maemo front page:

Posted on 2007-11-09 14:51:18 EET.

The Nokia N810 Internet Tablet is going through the distribution channels as we speak and it will be progressively available in different countries in the next weeks. We will also make a progressive release and publication of software and documentation, starting with the materials relevant to developers.

[Mara]

Let's see if it takes longer to crack the Nokia N810 firmware to install into N800, that it took to crack iPhone... :D

[omegaone37]

Anyone read the Tableteer site recently? It has a new site design and goes directly to the OS2008 pages. There is a paragraph towards the bottom that states...

"Your internet tablet is currently using OS2007 or older. For current Nokia N800 users we will launch the online availability of the new OS2008 upgrade during December."

Does that answer some questions?

Just a thought...

Omega

[Toontje]

"Your internet tablet is currently using OS2007 or older. For current Nokia N800 users we will launch the online availability of the new OS2008 upgrade during December."


WOW!! That's in two weeks!!! Or six...

[N770-Freak]

"Your internet tablet is currently using OS2007 or older. For current Nokia N800 users we will launch the online availability of the new OS2008 upgrade during December."
Ok, we had that post already several times :D

Would be more interesting to hear more about the N810 OS2008 firmware. I have already downloaded it and only wait for some pioneers to post some flash instructions (for N800) :rolleyes:

[jmancine]

mara, i have a feeling there are a lot less people working to crack this one. ;)

But then again, in theory it is a much simpler crack since we know the firmware is compatible...

[technut]

Doesn't anyone read this thread before they post?? Puleeze!

[BOFH]

Ha . . . you're kidding, right? Are the Nokia goons gonna come and take away our NITs and replace them with PocketPCs? The God of Brick will smite us down like a bunch of heathens? :rolleyes:

I am making a sacrifice of Absinthe, Mead and Hot ikal Goth Chicks...., to the " GODS of WOE & KRIEG " ;


*/ Breaking out the Absinthe, Electrical Tape and Hex Editor..... */

[BOFH]

Anybody speak Finnish or know a bot that will translate a webpage...,?

(Yes, this is to do with porting the N8x0 Firmware)

[zeez]

http://www.humanitas-international.org/newstran/translate.htm

[fanoush]

Best bet would be to extract the individual parts of the FIASCO image and try flashing them separately.

Yes, looks like it works without any problem :-)

flasher-3.0 -u -F .....bin
reboot+hold home button
flasher-3.0 -k zImage -f
flasher-3.0 -n initfs.jffs2 -f
flasher-3.0 -r rootfs.jffs2 -f -R

[N770-Freak]

Yes, looks like it works without any problem :-)

flasher-3.0 -u -F .....bin
reboot+hold home button
flasher-3.0 -k zImage -f
flasher-3.0 -n initfs.jffs2 -f
flasher-3.0 -r rootfs.jffs2 -f -R
fanoush, you are the greatest!!!

The first time I followed your steps I had a reboot loop! So I reflashed OS2007. After the second try it seems to work! ...now I have to test the new OS :D

[BOFH]

Yes, looks like it works without any problem :-)

flasher-3.0 -u -F .....bin
reboot+hold home button
flasher-3.0 -k zImage -f
flasher-3.0 -n initfs.jffs2 -f
flasher-3.0 -r rootfs.jffs2 -f -R

Got there before me, bloody traffic making late home :/

[zeez]

let's see a picture for proof :)

[fanoush]

fanoush, you are the greatest!!!
No, anyone can run flasher --help :-)

[BOFH]

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p60/BOFH139/N8x0/HPIM0972.jpg

[N770-Freak]

No, anyone can run flasher --help :-)
That's right! I didn't want to brick my device. But I had already unpacked the Fiasco image and tested to load the kernel without flashing... But you were faster ;)

[anidel]

greattttttttt 400Mhz!!!

[N770-Freak]

Thanks BOFH for your pic... I already made one shot, but you were faster.

OS2008 is really fast! Can't get enough of it. But Navigation seems not to work! I entered my Navicore2007 license and a window poped up, that this service will be available during december :eek:
What? Any chance to crack this too... *jokin*

EDIT:
Dpad works really great with the new browser (it was unusable with latest microB and OS2007)!!!

[dblank]

Has anyone tried flashing with flasher-2.0.macosx by any chance?

I'm a little scared, but I'll probably get over that fear in about 5 minutes if no one responds.. :)

[zeez]

Hmm i did do as described above but i just get the old os !??

[N770-Freak]

Has anyone tried flashing with flasher-2.0.macosx by any chance?

I'm a little scared, but I'll probably get over that fear in about 5 minutes if no one responds.. :)
If you have a fast internet connection: Download a Ubuntu 7.10 livecd and use linux flasher.

[N770-Freak]

Hmm i did do as described above but i just get the old os !??
Perhaps you downloaded the old OS.

[zeez]

What's the link to the new one ?

[dblank]

If you have a fast internet connection: Download a Ubuntu 7.10 livecd and use linux flasher.

I've actually got Ubuntu on my desktop, but it's USB 1 only, will it flash ok over USB 1? (just slower?)

I'd think so, but I've had other devices that would only flash via USB 2..