VLC streaming to the Nokia 770

[KreAture]

I thought it would be nice to have a thread of successfull streamings to the Nokia 770...

I succeeded in streaming live audio from my PC today using the following settings:

Video: none
Audio: line in (From radio)

Output method: HTTP
Encapsulation: WAV
Transcoding, Audio: MP3, 64 kbps, stereo

To receive:
- Open AudioPlayer
- Select Playlist->Add Stream
- Enter http://<server>:<port>

Bitrates tested OK: 64, 128, 192 kbps

VLC used: 0.8.4a on WindowsXP

[alexgonzalez]

I've been unable to stream video with vlc, please post setting if you have success ...

[Rezzo]

I tried video streaming too... But no success in any codec, format, bitrate possible. I hope someone is working on a VLC player for our nokia 770 at this point.

[matjones]

also tried with VLC but failed miserable. I guess VLC doesnt support RV40
if anyone gets this to work I would love to find out how. The video player is serious lacking functionality, it is useless for the regular consumer.

Anyone working on a MythTV frontend? or another video player that supports mms stream?

[maurice]

I played around with the VLC streaming settings and made a little bit of progress, which I will report.
First, I was able to reproduce the audio streaming and transcoding mentioned in the earlier post. Then I tried the video settings. My source was a 640x480 MPEG2 file. The video player is limited on bitrate, resolution and stream encapsulation. I'm running VLC on windows, streaming in HTTP, with default port 1234, with a buffer size of 1500. I'm using an 802.11g network with good signal strength.

The VLC settings I used for transcoding/streaming were:
Encapsulation: MPEG1
Video codec: mp1v, bitrate 256kb, scale 0.5
Audio codec: mpga, bitrate 64kb, channels 1 (2 will work)

With these settings the video player will open the stream and buffer it, and play it, but the playback is very choppy (its interrupted by buffer fills). Video and audio gets out of synch sometimes. The total MPEG1 output bitrate is around 300kbits/sec.

Anyway, I'm reporting this so further experiments on streaming can be done. At least VLC can transcode and stream video to the Nokia, although its far from perfect.

Good luck

[onspindle]

:) Hfs file server and n770 media conveter will streem clear and smooth video

[konttori]

A good point onspindle.

Is there an easy way to setup hfs to 770?
Also, do you know any easy installers for windows?

I think quite many people would be very pleased with such a setup (myself icluded).

[maurice]

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't HFS just serve files on the network, while VLC transcodes and streams? That is VLC can accept many source types and formats and then produce a Nokia 770 compatible stream (like shoutcast or icecast) in real time.

For instance in my example there is no way that the Nokia can digest a 640x480 MPEG2 stream - neither the resolution, bitrate and encapsulation is supported. For instance the input video bitrate in my case is 2000 kbits/sec. VLC can take real time sources, like internet streams and make them compatible. Or a DVD, with zero conversion time.

In another thread in this forum we are trying to get TVersity (another popular transcoding streamer) to work with the Nokia 770. It isnt producing compatible streams just yet.

[konttori]

Indeed, but setting HFS would solve quite many other issues as well (like accessing images, music, etc. from remote computer). Now, I know there are some frontends to VLC as well, but HFS and streaming VLC are not mutually exclusive. It would be great if users would be able to easily setup HFS sharing on their windows boxes as well (OSX and Linux naturally already have HFS servers). And it would be great to be able to stream from VLC as well.

[hallgreng]

What is HFS? I was under the impression that it is the fs Macs use, and I cant find anything about HFS regarding network storage.
I dont suppose you guys mean NFS? Has anyone gotten NFS to work on OS06 yet?

[maurice]

I think they are talking about HFS (http://www.rejetto.com/hfs/) , the HTTP File Server.

[hallgreng]

bah, windows-only =\

[konttori]

What is HFS? I was under the impression that it is the fs Macs use, and I cant find anything about HFS regarding network storage.
I dont suppose you guys mean NFS? Has anyone gotten NFS to work on OS06 yet?

Indeed NFS. Sorry for mixing it up. Never use, never remember. ;)

[idomcfly]

Hello everybody

I'm planning to buy the Nokia 770 but I need to know if it is possible to watch a Linux VLC streamed video from the nokia?

I don't want to reencode the video and use NFS to access the videos.

Thank you for any information

[idomcfly]

So there's no way to stream a video from a desktop PC to watch on 770? too bad, must find another device to do so :(

[mrp]

as for me I've been waiting for a way to do that since the day I bought 770 (almost a year ago). I expect Nokia is going to release a new firmware by the end of this year, with, hopefully capability of streaming video. 770 already has Media Streamer for audio and images and promises of video have been hinted. So wait until end of the year

[aflegg]

idomcfy: yes, it's possible either as RealVideo or a 770-compatible AVI.

If your VideoLan server is transcoding to a 770-compatible format and streaming that, it should work over HTTP.

HTH,

Andrew

[idomcfly]

idomcfy: yes, it's possible either as RealVideo or a 770-compatible AVI.

If your VideoLan server is transcoding to a 770-compatible format and streaming that, it should work over HTTP.

HTH,

Andrew

thanks !!! But just seen the rumour about the 770 successor so I'll wait a bit :p

[mrp]

idomcfy:
If your VideoLan server is transcoding to a 770-compatible format and streaming that, it should work over HTTP.
AndrewHas someone actually had success with that. I've tried several times with no luck

[tirabosco]

Succesfully streamed a dvd with this line on the server and mplayer on the 770 without any sync problems (worked with ordinary files too):

vlc -vvv --color dvdsimple:/dev/hdb@2 --sout '#transcode{vcodec=WMV1,vb=384,width=320,height=20 8,acodec=mpga,ab=96,channels=1}:standard{access=ht tp,mux=asf,dst=192.168.2.100:1236}'

Adjust "dst" according to the server ip and port where you want to serve. To width and height chosen by me is for 16:9 aspect ratio. According to garage 240x144 for 16:9 source and 352x288 or 176x144 for 4:3 source are good choices too.
To play a file substitute "dvdsimple:/dev/hdb@2" with its path.
On the 770 open xterm and type:
mplayer -cache 8192 http://<server-ip-and-port>/
and enjoy. Codecs were chosen by me only by trial and error. :p I am sure this can be improved further.

Bye, tira.

[Serge]

2tirabosco:

If using mplayer, it is better to have video encoded to some fixed set of resolutions, see details on maemo mplayer homepage: http://mplayer.garage.maemo.org/

Lower resolution does not mean better performance for mplayer currently (it is different from built-in player), you will just lose some quality. For 16:9 video it is better to use 400x224 resolution, mplayer will use fast and high quality hardware scaling in this case. If you try anything different from optimal resolution (width equal to 400 or height equal to 240), mplayer will have to fallback to lower quality and slower software scaling.

Probably the best video codec for mplayer is mpeg4 and audio codec - mp3.

By the way, mplayer also has gui on nokia 770 and you can type url for streaming in the top editbox (it still can't be saved to form playlist for future reuse though). GUI is still very simplistic, but its future development heavily depends on users feedback. As we did not see many feature requests in mplayer thread (http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2405) lately, does it mean that everyone is satisfied with its current state? ;)

[tirabosco]

Thanks for your suggestions. The codec choices I made were because it were the only ones that worked in vlc, it seems that something ffmeg and mpeg4 is broken in newer vlc releases than 8.4.a as mpeg4 didn't work. I tried vlc 8.4.a and your resolution and codec advises and with the appropiate cache size with the result that mplayer played fine what I threw at him. :)

Bye, tira.

[skuse]

So I finally pull out my 770 that I bought a year ago to start tinkering with and stumble across this thread... Great!!! Seems to work fine... However, I found something kind of peculiar that I can't seem to figure out... I ripped my DVDs to ISO images on my drive... If I open the image with VLC from the GUI, all is fine (both local playback and HTTP streaming)... If I try to open it with VLC via command line args the video is fine but no audio (either locally or streaming)... Did a bit of googling but not much luck...

thoughts?

[tlacuache]

Another option for streaming video to your tablet is media-serv. See http://www.maemopeople.org/index.php/jaffa/2007/11/19/mediaserv_tablet_encode_mediautils_1 for a download link to it and its companion script table-encode. I use it to stream media from my desktop to my n800 all the time with very good results.

-SG

[theICE_MAN]

Heres how I stream video. It doesnt seem to work properly with mp4 though. Its slow motion..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kluZz1izXyo