Import a N810 to Europe questions [Archive] - maemo.org

Mausse

11-12-2007, 05:22 AM

Hi there tablet freaks,

I've been looking for a internettablet for a while but i thought the 770 and the 800 were to big. I also thought (like a lot of friends me) what's the use without gsm function. But the N810 with skype and formfactor seems like the right fit for me so hopefully i will be a internet tablet guy soon ;-)

I live in the netherlands and i'm planning to import one from the usa. Are there any downsides which i will encounter, maybe different qwerty layout ? voltage? gps maps?

Greetings M.

peterjb31

11-12-2007, 05:37 AM

Why do you plan on importing?

bwana

11-12-2007, 05:48 AM

... could it perhaps have something to do with the fact that its twice as expensive in Europe ? I'm planning to order one from the US as well and thats the main reason for me.

ragnar

11-12-2007, 06:56 AM

Qwerty printed layout is different, but in the software you can enable any of the HW keyboard layouts. I'm using my english printings with Scandinavian layout. Just takes a bit of learning to find the different keys then. :) Maps application also - as far as I'm aware - has the option to download all the maps with all the versions.

luca

11-12-2007, 07:23 AM

I bough the n800 from the usa (ebay) for the same reason. I was glad to discover that, while the charger has a usa plug (but adapters are easy to find and usually very cheap), it accepts 230V, so I didn't have to buy an european charger.

phatsua

11-12-2007, 07:45 AM

i have one too, a friend of mine on a business trip in the US got it for me, I live in Romania and the N800 is not available here, you can only find here the 770 for twice the price of the N800 in the US :)

to answer your question, you can get the n800 from the US with no problems, everything will work out of the box except for the charger for witch you have to get an adapter (i paid 1 euro for mine). Also every new nokia mobile phone charger works :)

anidel

11-12-2007, 07:59 AM

And I think it should come with a one year worldwide warranty included, no matter where you've bought it.

TA-t3

11-12-2007, 07:59 AM

Note that some new Nokia mobile phone chargers deliver only half the amount of current compared to the N800 charger (which is rated to 890mA). They'll work ok, but it takes much longer to charge. The rate is printed on the charger. The smaller-capacity ones are physically smaller and more symmetric looking than the assymetric N800 charger, in case you go shopping for one. Just so you're aware of that.

anidel

11-12-2007, 08:07 AM

I can confirm that.. I have a smaller charger (was boxed along a Nokia BT headset) and it states 350mA and charges slower than the N800 one.
I didn't think about this... thanks!

Mausse

11-12-2007, 08:21 AM

Wow alot of active forum members here..nice

I want to import the N810 because it saves me about € 150 / $ 215

The dollar is so weak at the moment so this way the device will suit my wallet.

Thanks for al the input i'm still worried about the maps application, will you only get US maps? can you buy extra maps?

phatsua

11-12-2007, 08:27 AM

I think you can buy other maps, because I saw on Navicore website that they have available all the Western European countrys.

Also I confirm the charger issue, the default one for N800 charges faster then the other ones :)

szucsati

11-12-2007, 08:35 AM

And I think it should come with a one year worldwide warranty included, no matter where you've bought it.

Does anyone know what I need to do to enable the worldwide warranty? I don't have an invoice because I ordered my N800 from eBay, USA. Does the serial number itself enough? Or do I have to register my product or so?

ps.: USPS is crap.. My N800's box was a full wet mess when I got it!! Fortunately the seller packed it very carefully so the device was in a perfect condition. The original Nokia box stopped the water. But it was a shock!

anidel

11-12-2007, 10:47 AM

Nokia Maps software is already available, for free, to Nokia cellphones.
I am sure the US tablets are preloaded with US maps, while EU one with Western Europe ones and so on.. but I don't see why it should not work with other maps as well (again, for free: you only pay the voice navigation [and probably some other premium features, like real time traffic and so on] for 69€ / 3 years, if I remind it correctly).

anidel

11-12-2007, 10:49 AM

Does anyone know what I need to do to enable the worldwide warranty? I don't have an invoice because I ordered my N800 from eBay, USA. Does the serial number itself enough? Or do I have to register my product or so?

Not sure about this. Some companies are happy with the serial number, some are not. Try to check this on the Nokia website, may be writing to them and asking.

luca

11-12-2007, 10:52 AM

ps.: USPS is crap.. My N800's box was a full wet mess when I got it!! Fortunately the seller packed it very carefully so the device was in a perfect condition. The original Nokia box stopped the water. But it was a shock!

I received 3 packages via USPS (one of them being my n800 ;)) with no problem whatsoever. Maybe I've just been lucky.
In fact I prefer USPS to FedEx/UPS, since it's easier to escape custom duties with USPS, while FedEx/UPS charge extortionate fees for processing (maybe that's the cause they don't escape customs: they want you to pay their fees).

Dwight

11-12-2007, 12:24 PM

I'm curious about the reason for the price difference. Does Europe have a higher sales tax than the US? Or, is it because Bush has managed to wreck the US dollar?

(Don't blame me. I voted for Gore.) :)

TA-t3

11-12-2007, 12:59 PM

The sales tax in Europe varies between ~ 17% and 25% afaik. So yes, it's higher than in the US.

Mausse

11-12-2007, 04:08 PM

luca

11-12-2007, 04:55 PM

The sales tax in Europe varies between ~ 17% and 25% afaik. So yes, it's higher than in the US.

Well, that would justify a 17% to 25% difference, not a 50% to 100% one (speaking of electronic gadgets in general, not only the tablets).
Edit: btw, over here is 16%

Nilles

11-12-2007, 05:14 PM

Dont forget the import taxes. Everything i got from America or Japan i had to pay. (not on books).

http://www.douane.nl/particulier/internetaankopen.html

Dutch site :)

ankkuri

11-12-2007, 05:21 PM

Well, that would justify a 17% to 25% difference, not a 50% to 100% one (speaking of electronic gadgets in general, not only the tablets).
Edit: btw, over here is 16%Tax + tolls make around 30% premium to US prices for here (Finland). The rest is just market differentiation by companies; basically politics. But it depends pretty much on the product if the final difference is 30% or 100%.

Personally I haven't noticed that cheap dollar to us euro users would make any difference. It probably does in some industry though.

'Tis all the price of globalization, eh :rolleyes:

anidel

11-12-2007, 05:33 PM

I think prices are based on the price of life in the country their selling it.
470$ is a certain price in the US (quite expensive one, right?), and 470€ is seen the same way in the EU.
But 470$ -> ~320€ is cheaper in the EU than 470€ :)
and 470€ -> ~680€ is a heck lot expensive in the US.

That is: cheap is a word relative to the country you use it. So we can't just forget the $ or € sign after the price, they are the "relative" part.

R-R

11-12-2007, 06:32 PM

How about the fact that WiFi Channels in europe are from 1 to 13 while in the states it's only from 1 to 11... wouldn't you loose 2 channels?

Are Nokia tablets region aware when sold?

RipTorn

11-12-2007, 07:21 PM

Lunchguy

11-12-2007, 10:56 PM

The only issue so far with getting them imported is from what I've 'heard', so I can't say it's true or not, Nokia in Australia for example won't honor warranty for an internet tablet bought in another country, but yes its the same for us in Australia, the N800 is about $575 AUD in Australia or about $239USD from America.

and from Google - 239 U.S. dollars = 259.078591 Australian dollars

-Rip

An email to Nokia Australia confirmed to me that they would not honor the warranty if I imported the N810... damn!

Some websites have the N810 listed as coming to Australia in Q1 2008 but in their response, Nokia Aus just said to keep checking their website (where its not listed).

The local (AU$) price will be such a ripoff - as your calculations show - that I'm very tempted to import regardless and take the risk. Theoretically I could import 2 tablets for the price of 1 locally.

mike v

11-12-2007, 11:15 PM

mike v

11-12-2007, 11:17 PM

Maybe i should add my location as its Illinois USA sorry for late clarify .

anidel

11-13-2007, 04:04 AM

Nokia called me today and i ordered mine $404.00 with express delivery to my door told me by thursday :) i called # last week on there website to order and gentleman named raymond called me today and took order. the only issue is all the security they have seems a bit overwhelming non the less i got thru it and ill be surfing this week my priors are the 770 ,n800 and soon the n810 Mike

I am missing something. You state that you were surfing previously with "the 770, n800" and "soon the n810".
So what did you order ?
If you were already surfing with the n800... you should have ordered the N810? May be a pre-order ? and it'll arrive the day after tomorrow ?
Uhm...

Maybe you can be a bit more clear on this ?
Thanks.

Frankowitz

11-13-2007, 04:14 AM

Mausse, you should get it in the US (or have someone do that for you), take the device in your suitcase and mail the manual/warrantycard and/or the box.

Works like a charm.

hammerFar

11-13-2007, 05:04 AM

Also notice, that coming from Euroland you might be able to buy the N810 from US, 'cause of some kind of "electronics embargo".

Instead you can buy it from Canada, when it's available there

vvaz

11-13-2007, 06:09 AM

Reading this thread I am tempted to boycott Nokia and all its products for price policy.

TA-t3

11-13-2007, 08:08 AM

Edit: btw, over here is 16%
That's why I wrote ~17% (~ = approximately) :) I wasn't certain if there were still some countries at 16%. Any lower, anyone? (Or higher than 25%..)

@vvaz: You can as well start boycotting the majority of companies then..

Mausse

11-13-2007, 10:18 AM

Mausse, you should get it in the US (or have someone do that for you), take the device in your suitcase and mail the manual/warrantycard and/or the box.

Works like a charm.

I have a friend who can send me the package, he'll send it like a $5 x-mas present. Lets hope it can foul customs... otherwise i have to pax tax + import fee , still cheaper than in Europe. We'll see..

Greetings

Fionn

11-16-2007, 10:59 AM

And I think it should come with a one year worldwide warranty included, no matter where you've bought it.

I doubt that this is true.
When I had an issue with my 770 I gave the Nokia repair agent the serial number over the phone and he told me it was out of warranty as it had originally been for sale in the US. (The 770 was part of the sell-off of old stock that had been shipped to Europe at rock bottom prices).

If Nokia's practices regarding warranties has not changed it would suggest to me that the warranty for the 810 won't be a worldwide one but the OP may wish to verify the situation with Nokia prior to purchase if the lack of warranty is going to be a deal-breaker or not.

yegaoo

12-24-2007, 02:18 AM

That's why I wrote ~17% (~ = approximately) :) I wasn't certain if there were still some countries at 16%. Any lower, anyone? (Or higher than 25%..)

Mexican average Tax is 15%... but on imports sometimes this rate goes way way up...

N800 here at the official Nokia store is about $330 USD... ($3,600 MXN pesos)