Discount Codes Being Sent Now

[zerojay]

I just got my discount code by e-mail... anyone else?

No, it's still not available to buy, but those that were selected will be automatically e-mailed when it becomes available in the store they chose.

[imrahil]

ok. I recived the code :)

[sachin007]

I just got my discount code by e-mail... anyone else?

No, it's still not available to buy, but those that were selected will be automatically e-mailed when it becomes available in the store they chose.

What is the code??
I just want to check mine if they are the same series!!.....:D:D

[maxilogan]

What is the code??
I just want to check mine if they are the same series!!.....:D:D

Yes, I also want to shar.. ehm , check mine.. :D

[manfredi90]

Hi,
I recived the code too.
I hope that the N810 will be available soon... :D

[iancumihai]

Yep, got mine also.
However a quick question: i'll pick mine in france, will it have french keyboard?
Hoping for a standard one.

[anidel]

Mine is: <removed>

[Khertan]

I hope too :)

And i hope a worldwild availability.

[convulted]

anidel: If you are not kidding (I dunno what the codes actually look like), I would remove it from that post!

[Texrat]

anidel: If you are not kidding (I dunno what the codes actually look like), I would remove it from that post!

Agreed.

Anidel, the codes are one-use only. If that code is real, some unscrupulous person could use it before you. I would delete ASAP.

[anidel]

anidel: If you are not kidding (I dunno what the codes actually look like), I would remove it from that post!

Of course I am kidding, simply look at it.. it shows the whole set of 1 digit numbers :p

[anidel]

Agreed.

Anidel, the codes are one-use only. If that code is real, some unscrupulous person could use it before you. I would delete ASAP.

I know, it was just a joke on the line of some previous posts asking the codes to *cough* check *cough* with theirs :D

Mine is in my inbox.. I just have to hope my mail provider's staff won't read my mail !!! :)

[Xyzo]

Yep, got mine also.
However a quick question: i'll pick mine in france, will it have french keyboard?
Hoping for a standard one.
For what I've understood on maemo-users ML, the N810 will come in France with an AZERTY keyboard.

[Texrat]

Of course I am kidding, simply look at it.. it shows the whole set of 1 digit numbers :p

I was assuming that, but just wanted to be sure.

Still... I wonder if that code would work... :D

[sondjata]

discount code for what?

[muki]

got mine :-)

[anidel]

I was assuming that, but just wanted to be sure.

Still... I wonder if that code would work... :D

I'll be the first to try!!! :D
Let me remove it, then.. :p

[anidel]

Well ok.. it was removed, probably by some administrators. That's fine, just wanted to explain that is was totally invented, it was like 1234567890 but with the first group of 5 inverted, followed by the second group of 5 inverted.
Whatever :)

[peterjb31]

I wonder how many of these were posted while people were at work. I being a student never work so this does not apply to me...

[R-R]

For what I've understood on maemo-users ML, the N810 will come in France with an AZERTY keyboard.

Uhuh... i'm screwed!
(as long as it's just qzwam; that are flipped, i can buy stickers ;-)

Do we get WiFi channel 12-13 instead? :P

Are the code valid everywhere?

[Sadavyk]

I got mines :)
just playing i have my $500 on stand by, not sure about the these so call codes???
don't need it what i do need is the n810 to hit the store...

[icerabbit]

And, the other group of people may be getting an email that their submission wasn't selected among the happy 500.

I just got my email saying I'm not in. Oh well. It was worth a shot. At least I don't have to worry that a spam filter ate the message I was accepted.

[vtolkov]

I'm not in either. Actually, I was worrying about what to do if I suddenly receive it. Probably, I should not submit it in the first place. It would mean that I have to buy N810. I'm quite happy with my N800 and I would rather skip N810 model. The only attracting thing is a builtin GPS. But there are other things I do not like: external design, slider keyboard, micro-SD. Another problem is the infamous online store. I have bad experience with it when trying to buy GPS device. After three days of phone calls, where I was required to call them, answering to "verification" questions, finally they required American Express to verify me as well, I've canceled order and ordered GPS quickly, without any "verifications" and 50$ less in another store.

About the project I was planing to do on N810 (it was application for GPS photo-tagging), I've decided to buy Sony's specialized device instead. Funny, it will cost me less, then N810 with discount.

[hobbes]

If anyone has a code they are not planning on using, please PM :)

[prism]

If anyone has a code they are not planning on using, please PM :)
Me too please :D

[dueyfinster]

I gots mine too! Thanks a million Ari and Nokia! I was part of N800 device program too ;) I was hoping this time round I'd get it; but I wasn't confident since I got it the last time.

Once again thanks guys; you rock! Can't wait to buy my promo N810!


(I am giving a lecture in college soon about Linux to ~200 people; hopefully I get my N810 in time for some serious showing off!!!) :) :) :)

[TA-t3]

I got the negative one as well.. if there's a new program for the mythical N900 maybe I'll reapply then. Oh well, I won't be able to assist much when people ask N810-specific questions. ;) Anyway I'll be concentrating more on development for the N800 (that's the plan anyway). And I still hope the next tablet will be full-size, dual SD! :D (Actually it would better be described as SD+upgradeable internal storage..)

[YoDude]

I got the negative one as well.. if there's a new program for the mythical N900 maybe I'll reapply then. Oh well, I won't be able to assist much when people ask N810-specific questions. ;) Anyway I'll be concentrating more on development for the N800 (that's the plan anyway). And I still hope the next tablet will be full-size, dual SD! :D (Actually it would better be described as SD+upgradeable internal storage..)

Yup... No soup for me either. :(


Hi, Your application hasn't been accepted to the N810 maemo device program.Having 900 submissions and 500 discounts we had to make some choices. We have just published the list of accepted applicants athttp://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/500_fortunate_applicants.html This is by no means an evaluation of the validity your proposal. We hadsome criteria in mind and we tried to distribute the discounts to avariety of proposals and profiles. We invite you to push your plansforward, or at least continue progressing in the maemo community. Nexttime (if we have a next time for another discount program) you will havebetter chances. The maemo project offers you its infrastructure to host projects,collaborate, publish news, select and promote the best software... Welook forward to continue seeing you at http://maemo.org Thank you for sharing your ideas! maemo team - http://maemo.org

[Nik1]

In my opionon, everyone that bought the N800 should get a discount on the n810 .........

[iancumihai]

For what I've understood on maemo-users ML, the N810 will come in France with an AZERTY keyboard.


:eek: omg ... then i'm hoping for an advice.
Can i get the device only from stores or can it be ordered online with a QWERTY keyboard?
Mine will be picked by a friend in Paris and send it to me (my precious) mileeees away (like n800 was, my dear country lacks many things i see ...)

[spiderx]

I just tried my code in the store, and it says that "gift certificate has no balance". Has anyone else tried?

[sfitz]

What store URL are you at? I looked at the nokiausa.com and there is no 810 listed to buy.

Oh I got to it too. Same thing "The gift certificate has no balance."

Okay what's up with that!?! :(

Also it lists the product as Back Ordered - ETA 11/27/07

[spiderx]

Yeah, I think its not activated yet. That's what I read from another thread. Just keep your head on right. Wait for the announcement.

[BOFH]

Anybody with a code that they are not planning on using please PM me..., ;)

[ch8xy]

How much is the discount?

[anidel]

Who got the code will pay 99€ + shipping .
In the US this should be equivalent to 150$.

[anidel]

Uh.. I don't get which store you guys were looking at...
The nseries.com/n810 still asks for an e-mail to let you know when it's out

[sfitz]

go to nokiausa.com (or your local nokia.com site) then click on view shopping cart at the top.
You may need to enter your zipcode, and then you will come to some phone. Click on the phone only option that is a little below the tab menu.
A popup screen will ask which carrier, and you want to be sure to check the "include unlocked phones" option. Then find the n810 click on buy and there you should have a purchase for asking for any coupons or gift numbers. The code is invalid for the coupon, and shows no balance in the gift card number. :( Yet folks have been buying these over the phone.

Argghh.... Oh the pain... :)

-Shawn

UPDATE: Called Nokia, and they said the device is available for purchase. So if it is Why is my code not working!!! I could have ordered it had I wanted to pay 479 +S&H (minus the secret discount. ) :) But I want the super special price that I thought this code would give me. :eek: What's going on?!?!

[anidel]

You can't use your code by placing an order on the phone with them ?

Yup 4 days of pain.. actually since Friday evening when I got accepted.. sigh

[Alvin]

... But I want the super special price that I thought this code would give me. :eek: What's going on?!?!

Did you receive the email telling you that your code that they sent previously is ready to be used now at your local shop? I don't think that was sent yet.

Nokia was being nice sending out the code early, but maybe they should have waited until it was able to be used.

[anidel]

What's the problem in trying as soon as the N810 hits the on-line store ?
If I'd been in the US I would have tried right away...

[sfitz]

Hi Alvin,

Of course I haven't received any notice that I can use it. :)
However I also entered my email to be notified when I could buy it online at regular MSRP, and I haven't gotten that notice either. I've heard patience just tends to make you wait longer than everyone else. :D

Also note as Anidel points out you can't use the maemo discount over the phone (tried that too). Over the phone they can only give you the (upto) 75$ discount so I've heard. (they offered me $50 rather quickly)

I wonder if they had a production run of units that got shipped and then they found a problem?!? That's why you could order it and they will give you a discount so that later when you have to update you feel compensated for the trouble. And they don't want the Maemo folks to get the less then perfect version?!?
(I doubt that's what happened but ... but at least that thought will give me a little piece of mind. :D )

-Shawn
(keep thinking happy days soon, happy days soon...)

[Alvin]

there is no problem trying right away. I'm just saying to sfitz, don't get all panicked if it doesn't work yet.

[Alvin]

... I've heard patience just tends to make you wait longer than everyone else. :D


LOL - that is true

[anidel]

Well we were told that there would be a delay of a week...
We'll have it next week at last :)

[timsamoff]

The original email said that they would notify us when the code and store was available to use. Since we haven't received that email yet, I'm not surprised that nothing works yet.

Have patience, people! :p

-T.

[anidel]

Hey Timsamoff, I've read your blog. How are you doing ?

Yup I know they will tell us, but sometimes you can stay a bit ahead :)
I'm not working right now and I feel tired to do anything other than browsing around today...

[timsamoff]

Getting better every day. Thanks for asking! :)

You go ahead and keep on checking, anidel. ;)

-T.

[rcadden]

So the official press release is out, shipping in the US. Any word on where we can use our discount codes? It's not showing available on nokiausa.com yet. Boo.

[sfitz]

Discounts still not working as of this morning in the US. Still getting the gift card has no balance.

On the positive side, I've been reading that some of the apps aren't ready (such as Skype). So I'm not sure I'm overly juiced about getting one today.

From all the press, product descriptions, and blogs, I'm not looking to be able to use the discount till after the Thanksgiving, it might not be till December now.

It would be nice if someone in the know would post some facts instead of a bunch of us Techies speculating about it. :)

-Shawn

[anderbr]

Woo-hoo! :)

"Shipping Confirmation eMail: Nokia/LetsTalk.com

Dear Customer,

Thank you for ordering from Nokia & Letstalk.com! Your order has been fulfilled and shipped. "

[vabgeo]

Woo-hoo! :)

"Shipping Confirmation eMail: Nokia/LetsTalk.com

Dear Customer,

Thank you for ordering from Nokia & Letstalk.com! Your order has been fulfilled and shipped. "

Did you use the Discount code? If you have got the discount, it would be nice if you could mention the steps.

The ETA in the website says November 27th 2007 & The gift certificate has no balance when i used my code.

[zerojay]

Did you use the Discount code? If you have got the discount, it would be nice if you could mention the steps.

The ETA in the website says November 27th 2007 & The gift certificate has no balance when i used my code.

I still have the same problem. Not sure what's going on.

[vabgeo]

I still have the same problem. Not sure what's going on.

From anderbr's previous post I understand he had the 500$ saved up :). The date of Nov 27th & 2 day shipping at least gives me a pretty good chance of getting my N810 before I leave the US.

[aflegg]

FWIW, the press release is at:

http://www.nokia.com/A4136001?newsid=1169511

No mention of the rest of the world :-/

[TenSpeed]

I still have the same problem. Not sure what's going on.

My discount code (one of the 500) also shows no balance, and the Nokia website says "Backordered: ETA Nov 27". Any chance they'll have some set aside for the "winning" developers? I can dream... ;)

[anderbr]

I had 'a' discount code (the $75) but not THE discount code.

$409 and change.

[aflegg]

Presumably everyone with a discount code has seen the maemo-developers thread:

http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//maemo-developers/2007-November/012897.html

Not much more information, TBH.

[fpp]

A comment by Quim Gil in the announcement (http://maemo.org/news/announcements/view/os2008beta_for_n800.html) for the OS2008 beta for N800 :

"N810 maemo contributor codes
Published by Quim Gil on 11/26/07 15:41:46.
btw the estimation is to have the 500 N810 maemo contributor codes available in the online Nokia shops by December 15th."

Merry Xmas ! :-)

[sfitz]

Update on ETA from NokiaUSA.com
Says 810 expected ETA Dec06, not saying the codes will work then but maybe more devices are in the pipeline.

One can hope.
-Shawn

[anidel]

Sorry I didn't have time to go thru the thread, but did you guys tried to order thru the n-series.com website ?
The first page (in the N810 product page) asks you for an e-mail "to be the first to know when it becomes available", but if you go to "How to buy" and follow the North America->US store, you'll be able to order it.
I could've go thru the whole process, but of course I don't want to order it in the US :) but it didn't say it wasn't available.
Plus it was giving a 2-day shipping (FedEx or UPS) for free.

[sfitz]

Discount codes still have no balance as of Noon CST (US).
ETA on backorder for Nokiausa.com still Thursday (12/6)

[slha89]

Any news when the discount code is working? I see more and more Nokia shops in Europe, which does have the N810 in stock :)

Thanks a lot!

[Khertan]

No news

The last one say 16/12 if i remember ...

[dfn_doe]

Any updates on this? It's gonna be a sad holiday season for me if this doesn't work out.

[penguinbait]

Its funny, everytime I see this thread pop up, I get all excited for about a 1/2 second thinking someone is reporting they are working

I hope we get them real soon...

[rcadden]

Its funny, everytime I see this thread pop up, I get all excited for about a 1/2 second thinking someone is reporting they are working

I hope we get them real soon...

Haha, ditto.

[YoDude]

What was the point of the discount? How does this help developers if they can't get their hands on it until weeks after its release and the first major update?
Do you think it is more of a means to stifle you guys until after a launch?

Just wondering :confused:

[anidel]

Well us developers can work in the Scratchbox environment or with the N800 OS2008Beta that came out already.
Nothing stop us from working this way...

Not as cool as trying an application right on the real device, but still...

[fanoush]

Any updates on this? It's gonna be a sad holiday season for me if this doesn't work out.
Our codes are still planned to start working this weekend (Sunday? Monday morning?)

[epertinez]

Our codes are still planned to start working this weekend (Sunday? Monday morning?)

Sadly, Spanish shop doesn't have N810 anymore.

I think what is going on here can be a good case of study for an MBA.

Do you wanna be successfull: Give 500 discount codes to your developers so they gracefully move from 770 to N800.

Do you wanna shoot your foot: Give them 500 discount codes and do not activate them for a couple of monthes after the release of the product. No official when, no offical why.

This way you have the people spending time searching why their codes don't work instead of making their projects run on the new device.

And if you can advertise Canola2 for a month to then at the last minute say you are not releasing because there is an obscure ok reason, then you kill the platform totally!!!

After that you simply say that linux is not ready for business. That always work.

Nobody is going to get angry about the stupid situation, because we all know that if we do we are not going to have a new discount code ever.

Nobody has ever been fired because buying IBM.

Nobody has ever been fired because they smashed stupidly a beautiful great linux project.

[Frank Banul]

When quantities are limited, why not sell to the people that want to pay full retail? The people buying N810s must be happy enough with the available 2008 software to make their purchase decision, or don't mind waiting until more 2008 software becomes available.

The developers will get their N810s. I'm waiting. Personally I want to see Nokia make the most money on this platform as possible so that they will continue to release new models and improve the software infrastructure, for selfish reasons of course. :)

Frank

Sadly, Spanish shop doesn't have N810 anymore.

I think what is going on here can be a good case of study for an MBA.

Do you wanna be successfull: Give 500 discount codes to your developers so they gracefully move from 770 to N800.

Do you wanna shoot your foot: Give them 500 discount codes and do not activate them for a couple of monthes after the release of the product. No official when, no offical why.

This way you have the people spending time searching why their codes don't work instead of making their projects run on the new device.

And if you can advertise Canola2 for a month to then at the last minute say you are not releasing because there is an obscure ok reason, then you kill the platform totally!!!

After that you simply say that linux is not ready for business. That always work.

Nobody is going to get angry about the stupid situation, because we all know that if we do we are not going to have a new discount code ever.

Nobody has ever been fired because buying IBM.

Nobody has ever been fired because they smashed stupidly a beautiful great linux project.

[mobiledivide]

Sadly, Spanish shop doesn't have N810 anymore.

I is an obscure ok reason, then you kill the platform totally!!!
... ....
Nobody has ever been fired because buying IBM.

Nobody has ever been fired because they smashed stupidly a beautiful great linux project.

I love the internet so melodramatic. Everythings going to be fine. You will get your n810 soon, Canola will come out soon. Linux will be ok, and Nokia will remain profitable. A few days here or there is not going to make or break this product.

[Nathan]

Do you wanna be successfull: Give 500 discount codes to your developers so they gracefully move from 770 to N800.

Do you wanna shoot your foot: Give them 500 discount codes and do not activate them for a couple of monthes after the release of the product.

If I had a Guess, my guess would be that they were trying to make all the developers get it at around the same time to eliminate any form of country "favoritism".


No official when, no offical why.

Actually a when has been given -- I think it is the 15th (16th?) of this month when the codes are supposed to go active.


This way you have the people spending time searching why their codes don't work instead of making their projects run on the new device.

Well, I haven't been wasting time searching why my code doesn't work. I know it will be active on the 15th.


And if you can advertise Canola2 for a month to then at the last minute say you are not releasing because there is an obscure ok reason, then you kill the platform totally!!!

Huh? I see a post for Canola Beta being started in less than 24 hours. Where did you see them dropping it?


Nobody is going to get angry about the stupid situation, because we all know that if we do we are not going to have a new discount code ever.

What in the world are you rambling about. This is completely illogical and no where near the facts of the situation... Patience. I'm in the same boat as any of the other NEW developers -- I don't even have any of the IT devices.

I'm also anxiously awaiting the dev code becoming active. But you going off half-baked doesn't make you sound very sane to say the least.

Nathan.

[penguinbait]

Well the lack and slowness of the codes is a tad frustrating, but what is more disturbing to me, is that they are pushing out these devices because people want them, but they are still not officially released, and some might argue running BETA code. It is not doing the platform any good to release a half baked device to a bunch of people because they have cash.

I truly believe they should have brought in the developers first, and made the device more consumer ready before release. This would truly help beginners and make a better overall experience for new end users, instead of turning them off.

This problem is compunded by the fact that the BEST people available to confirm/deny/solve problems are waiting for a free device to troubleshoot. This leads to people not familiar with the platform, to make statements that are misleading or just plain wrong, which makes the whole platform look bad. It just seems to make sense to me to have the developers be the beta testers, not new people to the platform?

Is this all a bad timing scenario, where marketing said PUSH it out for Christmas. The diehards know what they are buying, but the newbies need a fairly solid device to have a good experience. Diehards and developers will not make this platform last. Quality experiences for new users will, and they should be getting more a more mature device.


As they say, you only get one chance to make a first impression.

[YoDude]

...

This problem is compunded by the fact that the BEST people available to confirm/deny/solve problems are waiting for a free device to troubleshoot. This leads to people not familiar with the platform, to make statements that are misleading or just plain wrong, which makes the whole platform look bad. It just seems to make sense to me to have the developers be the beta testers, not new people to the platform?

...


^There ya go. :)

A well written paragraph that explains my wonderment. :cool:

[Nathan]

Well the lack and slowness of the codes is a tad frustrating

LOL, I know what you mean -- no device to play with for the last month. I'm really hoping to get one before Christmas, but that might be pushing it a bit close...


but they are still not officially released ... running BETA code. It is not doing the platform any good to release a half baked device to a bunch of people because they have cash. I truly believe they should have brought in the developers first, and made the device more consumer ready before release. This would truly help beginners and make a better overall experience for new end users, instead of turning them off.

Is this all a bad timing scenario, where marketing said PUSH it out for Christmas. The diehards know what they are buying, but the newbies need a fairly solid device to have a good experience. Diehards and developers will not make this platform last. Quality experiences for new users will, and they should be getting more a more mature device.




Oh, I totally agree -- they royally botched it in this regard; I'm just saying the sky isn't falling. The sky is still their. Even if I wasn't in the Dev code group, they should have got the Dev the devices first -- the Dev's are the people who will port the apps, be able to debug things and generally allow the plateform to be a bit more stable. They did good by releasing the beta 2008 for N800 but it should have been done right away not weeks later after people figured out how to "hack" it on to the n800.



As they say, you only get one chance to make a first impression.

Yep, and they aren't making a great one on this release.

Nathan.

[Khertan]

An other thing, don't forget that this discount code aren't provide only to developers but to bloggers too and other people. So i think they want to wait a bit to be sure of the stability to avoid a bad publicity.

A final os 2008 release i think.

[epertinez]

Oh, I totally agree -- they royally botched it in this regard; I'm just saying the sky isn't falling.


I know the sky isn't falling. I'm just a little bit angry because of the total lack of info or "plan".

I think we (wanting it or not) are playing against Apple and, men it is embarassing.

There is no official place where it has been said when the codes are going to be enabled and why did it toke so long.

There is no official place where it has been said if the machinery is officialy selling or not. If it is only a preview thing. If there is an official launch party sometime in the future.

No official (no extraofficial) why of the delay Nokia got, and no official (no extraofficial) calendar about the european deployment. Is it selling in Spain? Whas it a shop mistake it appeared in the shop? It is going to be selling next week or next february?

No official expected date for Canola2. No reason given.

I wanna see my team organized. And it is not right now.

[slha89]

My code is working at the Nokia shop Germany ... not now :( ;)

In which timezone can we expect the mail at 15th dec (2007), that the discount/developer code does work? Since this week I look every 15minutes in my mailbox, even at work.

Thank you, keep your fingers crossed for tomorrow!

[anidel]

An other thing, don't forget that this discount code aren't provide only to developers but to bloggers too and other people. So i think they want to wait a bit to be sure of the stability to avoid a bad publicity.

A final os 2008 release i think.

Well that is for sure.
The OS2008 we are using so far is a Beta one (for the N800 at least), but I think also for the N810 (I am sure there will be a new release for them as soon as we'll see the N810 available in Europe and the OS2008 will come out of beta for N800 users).

Actually in the maemo-developers mailing list a Nokia developer said that a coming soon new release of OS2008 had a bunch of fixes for GPS related stuff.
I took that as an evidence that tomorrow (or next few days) we'll see everything coming out:

OS2008 stable realese for N800
OS2008 update for N810
N810 available. US and EU.
Wayfinder premium services.
Canola2 (but's that is not related to Nokia's delay)

I think that they were ready to ship everything (a part from the GPS turn-by-turn navigation) one month ago when we were sent the discount codes (in that e-mail they were saying that we would be able to use it soon), but something was discovered.
This something was strong enough to delay everything and to stop the N810 being sent to the US stores (but they had to fullfill they're announcement, so they made it anyway [marketing people]).
So they had to put the OS2008 in Beta again (and they released it so that people could file in more bugs... and notice that the OS2008 Beta release has already more bug fixed than the 'stable' one in the N810).

They told us about the delay and that they were working to solve it.
They also told us a date: Dec. 15th. And I think they'll honor it.
So let's just way. They told us more than every other company usually tells to their customers.

People were eager to forgive the Canola team about their delay (as it was caused by something above them), so why not forgive the Maemo team for their delay as well as it was caused by something above them as well ?

[fpp]

I agree with you. I, for one, am not in any hurry - my N800 still works just fine with OS2007, and I'd rather wait a few more days and have something stable than find myself reflashing three times in as many weeks...

[iancumihai]

I agree with you. I, for one, am not in any hurry - my N800 still works just fine with OS2007, and I'd rather wait a few more days and have something stable than find myself reflashing three times in as many weeks...

flashing can be fun. :)
and yes i have posted here so another 499 people will think for a second: "a new post? is the discount available?" :D

PS: does anyone know if in france i can buy a qwerty instead of azerty?

[fpp]

(waking up suddenly)

Huh ? What ? a new post? is the discount available?...

:)

[anidel]

Wow! It really is!!


...

kidding :p

[Karel Jansens]

flashing can be fun. :)
and yes i have posted here so another 499 people will think for a second: "a new post? is the discount available?" :D

PS: does anyone know if in france i can buy a qwerty instead of azerty?

I can't even find them in Belgium. You could try mail ordering from the Netherlands or the UK.

[iancumihai]

I can't even find them in Belgium. You could try mail ordering from the Netherlands or the UK.

So you have asked Nokia for a qwerty keyboard in Belgium?
Are you sure they will have only azerty there?

If so, i have to find a friend that goes to UK.

[Khertan]

DISCOUNT AVAILABLE .... !!!!









Tomorrow ... Source : previous post :D:D:D:D

ps : don't strike, don't strike ...

[Karel Jansens]

So you have asked Nokia for a qwerty keyboard in Belgium?
Are you sure they will have only azerty there?

If so, i have to find a friend that goes to UK.

Whoops! My mistake. I didn't look at the thread's header and thought it was a generic question about keyboards, not about the N810's.

In my defense: I always go through "New Posts" and just click new tabs for the latest posts in every thread, so I often forget what subforum a thread belongs to when I get there.

[ArnimS]

My code is working at the Nokia shop Germany ... not now :( ;)

In which timezone can we expect the mail at 15th dec (2007), that the discount/developer code does work? Since this week I look every 15minutes in my mailbox, even at work.

Thank you, keep your fingers crossed for tomorrow!

And then hopefully not a response, "I'm sorry, we're out of stock. we expect your order will be shipped January 8-16."

But then again, these are hardware devices - they have to be built one by one. Can't copy infinitely like software.

[penguinbait]

And then hopefully not a response, "I'm sorry, we're out of stock. we expect your order will be shipped January 8-16."

But then again, these are hardware devices - they have to be built one by one. Can't copy infinitely like software.

Nokia patented a hardware cloning process, and now they can be copied infinitely like software. woohoo!!

I wonder what else can be cloned?:rolleyes:

[R-R]

PS: does anyone know if in france i can buy a qwerty instead of azerty?

I wish, but apparently not... the "good" news is that you can apparently from other shops only in europe though. the "bad" news is, nokia won't ship outside the country or even to somewhere else than the billing address.

(From a guy who chose France and lives in Canada...)

[iancumihai]

I wish, but apparently not... the "good" news is that you can apparently from other shops only in europe though. the "bad" news is, nokia won't ship outside the country or even to somewhere else than the billing address.

(From a guy who chose France and lives in Canada...)

This is so unclear ... i've choosed france, but now i want it from UK. is the code bound to my first choice?

BTW: http://flors.wordpress.com/2007/12/15/the-n810-codes-for-maemo-contributors-next-week/

[krisse]

My discount code doesn't work in the UK Nokia shop. Has anyone else managed to get it to work in the UK shop?

[fpp]

Have you seen the link in the post just above yours ?

[slha89]

http://flors.wordpress.com/2007/12/15/the-n810-codes-for-maemo-contributors-next-week/

[richardg1952]

I must be dim. How do I use my discount code? I've gone to n-series.com and placed an order (I'm in the US). The 810 cost is $479 and is on back order until the 19th. Regardless I see no place to enter the discount code. Has anyone from the US placed their order successfully?

[timsamoff]

I must be dim. How do I use my discount code? I've gone to n-series.com and placed an order (I'm in the US). The 810 cost is $479 and is on back order until the 19th. Regardless I see no place to enter the discount code. Has anyone from the US placed their order successfully?

The code aren't active yet... Nokia says maybe next week... But, maybe not too. Those of us who have codes will be emailed the instructions when they are available.

Tim

[fpp]

What is it with you guys, can't you read ? You received an email from Nokia with your discount code in it, and it said you'd receive another when the code became usable, with further instructions.

Have you received the second email ? No.

And there's been a post on Quim Gil's blog yesterday, saying the codes would go live sometime next week. That URL has been posted TWICE in the last four messages in this thread.

So go ahead and continue to try your code every 5 minutes on 5 different Nokia websites, but please don't post here each and every time whining it doesn't work... it gets really old !

If you're that much in a hurry, buy it at street price and be done with it...

[Tahitibob]

Be careful,
The next time, fpp will bite !

I think the best thing to do, is to not reply to these kind of posts.

[fpp]

Bite what ? My Ethernet cable ? :-)

[sideout]

I know that this is my first post..and yes to answer the first question...I did read through all 11 pages of this thread and I "think" I know the answer, but want to clarify it. The "codes" were sent out to the first 500 lucky people to sign up. I went to www.n-series.com to look around and something is not right. I can not scroll left or right nor up and down on the page. I see things to the right, but no scroll help. I tried it in Mozilla and IE. But my main question is this....am I right in assuming that the discount codes were only offered to the first 500 people?

If so, I guess that means I will have to pay 479 for it. But did you know (I am sure you did) that Dell has it for sale too?...

[RogerS]

[A]m I right in assuming that the discount codes were only offered to the first 500 people?No.

There was a deadline that has long since passed, but it wasn't a matter of first-come, first-served

IIRC, something like 900 people applied and a group at Nokia determined which applications were more deserving and those are the ones that received a discount code. All kinds of criteria were considered, with a much broader base than was applied with the earlier tablets.

Roger

[sideout]

Roger, you explained it so well..I appreciate the help. I am just trying to make sure that I get this tablet with the right applications, etc on it. Many are being sold on Ebay and after reading this forum, I am a little hesitant to get one from there....now to find one.lol

[TenSpeed]

Another day goes by with no news about the codes being activated. I'm still very grateful for having been chosen, but waiting for weeks with no real news is getting a bit hard to take. Makes me think of Waiting for Godot (does the N810 developer program really exist? Really?).

According to Nokia Canada, today was the last day to place an order and have it delivered in time for Christmas. So much for that - the next major block of time I'll be able to set aside for Maemo projects will be February (admittedly, with some tinkering along the way). Surely I'm not alone in having limited free time (note the double entendre) to spend on Maemo projects, am I???

Please, can SOMEONE give a clear reason why there is such a delay? Given the N810 user reviews already in existence, the tablet works. Is this an administrative delay, or a technical one? Will people with a development code get a different version of the N810 (maybe with WiMAX, or lasers, or ???).

Perhaps the box will include "Head On a Platter", courtesy of whomever is responsible. :)

On the bright side, everyone here is happy, healthy, and ready for a relaxing holiday. I suppose that's all I can ask for. Happy Holidays, all.

[fanoush]

According to Nokia Canada, today was the last day to place an order and have it delivered in time for Christmas
..
..
Please, can SOMEONE give a clear reason why there is such a delay? Given the N810 user reviews already in existence, the tablet works. Is this an administrative delay, or a technical one?

My completely unfounded an paranoic theory is that it is intentional. Sell as much devices as possible before Christmas to customers who pay full price an who possibly wouldn't buy it after Christmas. Developers with discounts may not bring enough profit to shop and may decrease (limited?) stock. Also they will buy the device later for sure. Maemo != Nokia marketing department. Again, this is just my theory. It is quite probable that I am wrong.

[anidel]

I do not think that 500 units are enough to decrease the stock so much.
I was thinking about some legal issue, but they've done it already for the former tablets... No idea what's causing it.

I was sure I would get it by Christmas (heck.. I've got the code two months ago almost!), but looks like I'll be lucky if I'll get it before the new year!

Well, lesson learned for the Maemo team. They sent us the codes ahead of time (well, at that time they were also sure the tablet would be ready the week later) and now we all need to wait before getting our hands on one of such cool device we all deserve.

[slha89]

I hoped a lot for xmas, because this wasn't an impossible task. Now it's to late in Europe too, because I don't think Nokia shop is as fast as Amazon :(
After the xmas and new year days I'm very busy because a few projects starting @work with release dates, so I only have the weekends the next few months to get familiar with N810. Of course, with the usual breaks from monday to friday...
With an SDK only, I can't imagine the handling of a real piece of hardware and thinking about ideas for projects (no, I don't have a 770 or N800).
Like Nokia, I must change the priority of my interests, so no one will be disappointed :) I know today that I have a lot of fun around xmas time because I'll be starting another thing where I'm very interested. The next 14 days I can code, eat and sleep like I want. This timeframe help me a lot to get familiar with something.
If N810 comes after new year, I think I use it as an usual music player ('promoter' only) next 4 months because I can't start two private projects of interest. Sorry, I have 24h/day like everyone.

Merry xmas and a happy new year to everyone!

[rcadden]

I have to say, it seems as though the entire window of where this program would have made the most sense has come and gone.

How many weeks ago could we walk into a Nokia Flagship Store and buy one? Given the poor resources attributed to the firmware servers both recently and when the first beta of OS2008 was officially launched, I would say that surely *someone* botched this whole developer's discount program entirely.

Just so that I have it right, the entire purpose was so that developers (and in my case, bloggers) could have a chance to handle the new device and work up new applications, update old applications, and work up solid hands-on reviews so that consumers can get a good idea of what they're looking at.

I would argue against the above theory by saying that Nokia would have benefited from MORE sales by already offering up the codes. There would be more applications, more solid implementations, and more general chatter on the web about the device.

[ArnimS]

I have to say, it seems as though the entire window of where this program would have made the most sense has come and gone.

This seems to me to be the case.


I would say that surely *someone* botched this whole developer's discount program entirely.

Disagree. It could be the result of any number of things.


Just so that I have it right, the entire purpose was so that developers (and in my case, bloggers) could have a chance to handle the new device and work up new applications, update old applications, and work up solid hands-on reviews so that consumers can get a good idea of what they're looking at.

I would argue against the above theory by saying that Nokia would have benefited from MORE sales by already offering up the codes. There would be more applications, more solid implementations, and more general chatter on the web about the device.

This seems to me also to be the case.

The high-profile bloggers in particular can do nothing to promote the device without a device.

On the other hand, there is nothing preventing the porters / developers from installing chinook SDK and making the N810 / OS2008 launch better and more successful by having more 3rd party apps available.

From the perspective of promoting our favorite platform, we should be doing this. However speaking personally, my motivation is pretty low right now.

[muki]

Me too thinking I am going to miss the time over the xmas hols to begin development (my first on maemo). We can use the SDK now and I am quiet happy using it to get myself familiar before diving in, but how many would want to release sw and try and support it without access to the actual device? I'm trying very hard to be patient here but suppressing all this pent up frustration has got my whole body covered in festering boils ouzing puss all over the place (picture that with your breakfast, he, he).

PS: I'm joking about the boils

[Nathan]

Originally Posted by rcadden
I would say that surely *someone* botched this whole developer's discount program entirely.



Disagree. It could be the result of any number of things.


No, I think they botched the timing --Just prior to Thanksgiving would have been the best time for most developers (imho) to get their hands on it. Gives them a little bit to play with it before actually "coding" in their week(s) they have off around Christmas. I know I'm off soon and afterwords I have a ton of things to do also.


On the other hand, there is nothing preventing the porters / developers from installing chinook SDK and making the N810 / OS2008 launch better and more successful by having more 3rd party apps available.

LoL, I have the SDK installed -- but I don't have a device (no N770, 800 or 810) so it is kinda hard to test anything. In fact w/o the device my motivation is to work on things that have a much more visible impact to me right now. ;-)

Nathan.

[ArnimS]

how many would want to release sw and try and support it without access to the actual device? I'm trying very hard to be patient here...

The ArsTechnica review of the N810 points to this very problem:
The vast majority of third-party software applications available for OS2007 haven't been ported to OS2008 yet, but users can expect to see a lot more third-party software become available next month when developers begin to get the devices. ...

Alberto Garcia Hierro, for instance, tells me that he has already created experimental XChat packages for the N810 and will be adding them to the Maemo Extras repository after he has had an opportunity to test them on the device.

Like the N800, the N810 doesn't come with any calendaring or task management software. The absence of strong PIM support will likely deter many enterprise users. Third-party PIM software is currently under development by OpenedHand...

I talked to OpenedHand developer Matthew Allum (the creator of the Matchbox window manager) about the availability of Pimlico on the N810. He tells me that Pimlico builds for Maemo 4 are planned, but haven't been done quite yet. Chris Lord, who is also an OpenedHand developer, has revealed some plans for new Dates features that he plans to add to the new Maemo version once he gets his N810.


Source: http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/nokia-n810-review.ars/4

This review by one of the top sites on the planet gives a positive review of the N810, but emphasizes that the available software makes it a poor choice for enterprise users.

Obviously Nokia can't develop all the apps users want in-house; Third-party developers do not just provide fun little addons (like my game and emulator ports (http://pupnik.de/software.html)) but also important functionality that can significantly affect reviews and sales.

Every new product release is a chance to make a 'first impression' on millions of potential customers. Getting early units out to the 'short list' of the most important projects out there (for e.g. PIMlico, Abiword) - heck even offering cash grants for chinook releases before review units shipped - could have greatly improved the launch.

(edit) The fact that there is a developer discount at all is a great credit to Nokia and shows how they seriously support the community that supports them. Hopefully Nokia can learn from the N810 release and get out ahead to coordinate new 3rd party software releases with their next hardware release.

[iancumihai]

my vacation will come soon ... no n810 :((

c'mon already with those discounts code.
what's the problem? 500 devices, this is not like distributing 5 million. even a single guy can track the distribution of those discount codes, there is no need to be bought from nokia site, just send them by a currier, i would pay extra for those currier services.


pfff ... not angry just being a little kid that's waiting for a toy and there is too much teasing.

[penguinbait]

my vacation will come soon ... no n810 :((

c'mon already with those discounts code.
what's the problem? 500 devices, this is not like distributing 5 million. even a single guy can track the distribution of those discount codes, there is no need to be bought from nokia site, just send them by a currier, i would pay extra for those currier services.


pfff ... not angry just being a little kid that's waiting for a toy and there is too much teasing.

I know, I feel like a little kid, and everytime Christmas gets close, they change the date :D

[qole]

I think the main problem is that the device has become ridiculously, unexpectedly popular and Nokia has been caught off guard. Wired magazine put it at the top of their Gadgets We Want For Christmas and I keep seeing it at the top of other high-profile wish lists (like on Slashdot).

I think the recent meltdown of Nokia's servers when they released the new version of OS2008 is a clear indication that they had NO IDEA just how crazy things were going to get with this device.

[rcadden]

I think the main problem is that the device has become ridiculously, unexpectedly popular and Nokia has been caught off guard. Wired magazine put it at the top of their Gadgets We Want For Christmas and I keep seeing it at the top of other high-profile wish lists (like on Slashdot).

I think the recent meltdown of Nokia's servers when they released the new version of OS2008 is a clear indication that they had NO IDEA just how crazy things were going to get with this device.

Yes but based on how the program was described to me, the 500 should have gotten their devices before they were on shelves elsewhere. That, to me, is the biggest part of the screwup.

[qole]

Yes but based on how the program was described to me, the 500 should have gotten their devices before they were on shelves elsewhere. That, to me, is the biggest part of the screwup.

I agree. Then again, the Nokia server meltdown was a major screw-up too. I don't understand how a company that so often seems to be really "with it" can make these big "amateurish" blunders.

[iancumihai]

I'm going to buy a rabbit and post a page somewhere stating i'm going to kill and eat it unless i get my won n810 (no, any other n810 will not do).
Of course i'll mention that it's a really cute rabbit and i would hate to do that :)

[muki]

@iancumihal: twisted, but at least it's a plan

[iancumihai]

@iancumihal: twisted, but at least it's a plan
and of course you've heard of http://www.savetoby.com/ :cool:

[Karel Jansens]

Hmmm... Rabbit.

[muki]

get two and use one to show you mean business

PS: I hope no one is taking this serious

[Zuber]

I suggest you get a Finnish breed for maximum impact.

Zuber

[anidel]

Damn... it's Christmas!
It's Friday evening. Everyone will go back at work on the 27th.
I am pretty sure, now, I will not get it in 2007.
It'll be a nice gift for the new year.

But I wanted it now.
I don't blame Maemo team. But whatever/whoever made this discount code work so badly.

We're left out in the cold. Quim said they'd be active this week. It didn't go as he said.
(yeah, I know it's not his fault).
So why ?
What happened ?
2 months and they were not able to solve this issue ? why ? :(

[iancumihai]

I wonder if you should send Quim this thread ...



of course my rabbit's live depends on it.



PS: of course is a joke :) .... ... or not :mad:

[gemniii42]

Rabbit jokes:
How many blondes does it take to make chocolate-chip cookies?
Three...one to mix the batter and two to squeeze the rabbit.

[penguinbait]

I'm going to buy a rabbit and post a page somewhere stating i'm going to kill and eat it unless i get my won n810 (no, any other n810 will not do).
Of course i'll mention that it's a really cute rabbit and i would hate to do that :)

How about this one:)

http://www.fuzzy-rabbit.com/webcam.htm

[TenSpeed]

So, does the fact that you chose a rabbit mean you're not expecting the codes to be active until Easter? :)

Time will tell, Pinky, time will tell...

[iancumihai]

So, does the fact that you chose a rabbit mean you're not expecting the codes to be active until Easter? :)

Time will tell, Pinky, time will tell...

Shut up! they maybe reading this thread :D and might get ideas.

[penguinbait]

mmm rabbit!!!

Ear-resistible: el Bulli's deep fried rabbit ears with aromatic herbs

http://hungryinhogtown.typepad.com/hungry_in_hogtown/2007/03/earresistible_e.html


I just cant stop laughing at this!! I still hear Elmer Fudd in my head, Kill the Wabbit, Kill the Wabbit, my favorite opera :)

[Karel Jansens]

Hmmm... Rabbit.

[R-R]

hahaha you guys at least cheered me up as i have to leave for 2 days and thus won't get my code today in any cases :D

Happy holidays :-)

[iancumihai]

right ... i now have found the guilty "thing" for this mess

http://lh6.google.com/iancu.mihai/R2wct-Pu1vI/AAAAAAAAANU/nsigPngXHXo/s144/rabbid.jpg

it's a hamster-mutating-WABBIT-tableta-eater ...

[sfitz]

Well the nokiausa.com store has the 810 back in stock
and of course

the discount codes do not work. :(

kill the wabbit kill the wabbit!!


Update: They made me do it..
http://onshoresystems.com/ebay/dead_rabbit.jpg

[Master of Gizmo]

For me a) chaning the mac address using ifconfig wlan0 down hw ... works with a new address and b) internet access afterwards just worked with the new address. So there's no need to use a bluetooth phone or the like.

[Master of Gizmo]

Oops ... sorry, wrong thread ...

[dfn_doe]

Really?!?! No updates?

[slha89]

Maybe we get the codes activated when Apple release their iTablet in January 2008 at Mac World ;) ... then, Nokia needs some developers again. Xmas 2007 was a success w/o discount codes ;)

[rcadden]

maybe they forgot about us

[ArnimS]

It is now one week since quim said to expect codes, and since it is holidays now, I doubt there will be good news in 2007.

We can only hope and wait. And be unhappy about the situation.

[richardg1952]

My excitement at being selected as one of the '500' has morphed to feeling foolish and disappointed. Maybe it was all a "Nigerian email" scam?

[rcadden]

My excitement at being selected as one of the '500' has morphed to feeling foolish and disappointed. Maybe it was all a "Nigerian email" scam?

419 isn't much less than 500......

[spiderx]

This sucks. the people who could help the community the most are basically being asked to wait. I would have bought one by now if I didn't have a discount code. I would have probably even had a basic version of my application working by now. Instead, I have been sitting on my hands while the rest of the world gets them. Nokia, stop fooling around and let us claim our tablets so we can start producing software!!!

[smackpotato]

They are waiting for the n910 to arrive in January. Maybe not

[ArnimS]

At this point, don't you think it's about time for Nokia to give us some kind of explanation about what the problem is?

There is something called a 'developer community' out there that is doing a lot of free work for this platform and I think they deserve a statement from Nokia about what is causing the delay and when it will be resolved.

[epertinez]

May I make a bet?

I say Nokia has a tweaked N810 (see N95 for example of what is going to be the new N810) and they are waiting the holidays season to finish so they can anounce it.

That is the only thing that makes sense. You don't wanna kill the platform that put you at the top of amazon's computer's listing, do you?

Make 500 happy contributors unhappy for a couple of monthes for no reason makes no sense. There must be a "silent" reason to make us all wait.

[Khertan]

I say Nokia has a tweaked N810 (see N95 for example ...

What they do with the n95 ? (I'm not a nokia fanboy so haven't read nothing about the n95)

[Kozzi]

What they do with the n95 ? (I'm not a nokia fanboy so haven't read nothing about the n95)

They made it better*.

2.8" vs 2.6"
better battery life
8 GB vs microSD slot

*atleast for the screen and battery part

[slha89]

May I make a bet?

I say Nokia has a tweaked N810...

That is the only thing that makes sense.
A hardware change will be one reason to sold out 'old' hardware or activate discount codes for ... ... €99,- ;)
I can't imagine big hardware changes around xmas (=holiday) time now, so we wait another month or two: testing, producing, packaging, language adaptations...

Maybe they don't need developers and promoters anymore because sales goes better than expected? Are you cool enough to explain this reason asap at an emotional xmas time?

[epertinez]

I don't say they have "big hardware changes". Simply N810 8GB.

And I say they maybe thought N810 8GB was going to be out before christmas or maybe not or just after xmas, so they thought they could make us wait a litle bit longer so they had 500 users-developers with 8GB machines and not with underpowered 2GB ones.

I give a 95% of chances the problem is simply bureaucratic, but I like to dream about this 5% extra.

[Milhouse]

I give a 95% of chances the problem is simply bureaucratic, but I like to dream about this 5% extra.

It's Nokia - of course it's bureaucratic! :)

As for the lack of announcements, everyone is on holiday - not a decision I agree with as it seems maemo.org for 2 weeks has been left a leaderless and mute organisation in a time of relative crisis. Lessons will hopefully be learned from this.

I expect a flood of communication before the end of this week (it may take a day or two for a post-mortem review of where it all went wrong) and the first thing I expect to see is a big fcking apology to the community.

[pycage]

So, the year is over.
We've been sitting on our discount codes for almost 2 months now! C'mon Nokia, we expect at least an explanation why it takes so long!

[YoDude]

It's Nokia - of course it's bureaucratic! :)

As for the lack of announcements, everyone is on holiday - not a decision I agree with as it seems maemo.org for 2 weeks has been left a leaderless and mute organisation in a time of relative crisis. Lessons will hopefully be learned from this.

I expect a flood of communication before the end of this week (it may take a day or two for a post-mortem review of where it all went wrong) and the first thing I expect to see is a big fcking apology to the community.

Not gonna happen, LOL.

BTW, didn't they just take a whole freakin' month off for vacation? As I remember they released an OS2007 update right before locking up the shop then too.

Seems like their MO... Release software, go away for awhile, sort it out later. :)

[Milhouse]

Not gonna happen, LOL.

BTW, didn't they just take a whole freakin' month off for vacation? As I remember they released an OS2007 update right before locking up the shop then too.

Seems like their MO... Release software, go away for awhile, sort it out later. :)

Yeah they did, and it does seem like this is their current MO which demonstrates appalling irresponsibility. If it's allowed to continue, they can all just take a hike and we'll all move on to another project run by people who take it a lot more seriously.

Sometimes I feel bad ranting at the maemo guys/gals who have no doubt slogged hard to get each release out the door, but then I remind myself that they're shooting themselves in the foot (in fact, they've blown both legs off this Christmas) by leaving the business - and let's not forget that maemo IS a business one way or another - with nobody home for over 2 weeks. Any credibility and goodwill they had has slowly been eroded during this period.

Maemo (and by association Nokia) need to treat this project seriously, and that means managing the infrastructure better and ensuring there are people available immediately following a release (or better, 365 days of the year) to deal with the problems when the sh1t hits the fan. It's the kind of basic cover most other businesses arrange as a matter of course and if Nokia want to be taken seriously with this Tablet project and associated products they need to do the same and stop dicking about while at the same time showing the world how incompetent and badly managed they are.

Ari in his blog has acknowledged the infrastructure is a problem, I only hope he acknowledges the poor management decisions that seem to have exacerbated the initial problem. I'm sure there will be promises to address the problems in the future, but then we've all heard those promises before. :(

[ArnimS]

Maemo (and by association Nokia) need to treat this project seriously, and that means managing the infrastructure better and ensuring there are people available immediately following a release (or better, 365 days of the year) to deal with the problems when the sh1t hits the fan.

Before I get to work on some speed improvements i just discovered, i feel like blathering a bit. :)

I wonder if maybe we (or just I) tend to weigh the community discussions and contributions too heavily. How many tablets have been sold? And how many of those are being used without any software upgrades or 3rd party apps installed at all?

If I were a Nokia exec deciding where to allocate resources, I might look at gross tablet sales (around 400k?) and then the numbers of those users installing 3rd party apps or grabbing OS upgrades (??k) and conclude that the vast majority of tablet purchasers are just using the devices as-is and write off the afficionado and developer community as a fringe group.

If the ratio of 'upgraders and installers' among tablet users were in fact very small, then as a maemo insider making a business case to Nokia about investing in support (maemo.org, developer program etc), I'd probably find myself fielding hard-to-quantify assertions about a 'robust community' against the 'so what, xx% are buying them as-is' argument.

As developers, porters and product-fans, we may be simply not seeing those users who buy the tablets as fixed 'gadgets'. I'd be curious if anyone reading this could provide some basic statistics or indicators of what percentage of purchasers never install or upgrade. What for e.g. are number of downloads of OS2007 and OS2008 images vs gross unit sales?

Please don't take that as flame-bait. Just curious.
Cheers,

[Milhouse]

Alternatively Arnim, you can consider standard software development common sense which states that you don't publish a major new software release then disappear from the face of the Earth for 2 weeks.

Even assuming this is acceptable, it's apparent from the mailing list and posting here that there are one or two people still working within maemo.org, and the lack of any communication from more senior management tells me that there is no effective escalation process in place for when major problems do occur.

From the outside, maemo.org appears to be a noddy operation and it doesn't come close to a professionally run software development outfit. Their process is a confused mess and multiple promises have been made for far longer than I can remember that the situation will improve, yet there is no sign of this happening - where's the changelog for each release? That should be easy to produce, assuming the defects were tracked properly.

[Zuber]

I wonder if maybe we (or just I) tend to weigh the community discussions and contributions too heavily. How many tablets have been sold? And how many of those are being used without any software upgrades or 3rd party apps installed at all?...

I can see where you are coming from, but don't think the argumant can fully apply here.

Mainly, the standard product has a built in "App Manager" that stands out quite clearly on the main menu options.

If I was to act like a clueless novice (not hard for me), I could quite easily end up there and see a lovely list of juicy apps to install.

Fantastic !!!

Now I hit the install option and it fails miserably, no real (worthwhile) explanation.

Very bad. Particlarly for such a long time.

It's not like a normal software install, where I have to make a positive choice to seek out some software, go to the website, download it and try to install.

It's just there ready and waiting to be picked (which is a wonderful thing) but then you get nothing...

One thing worse than not giving someone something, is dangling it in front of them getting them do drool all over the floor and then saying NO, you can't have it :)

Zuber

[ArnimS]

Good points.

its like...

http://pupnik.de/kitty_no_foodzor.jpg

:(

[Khertan]

lol .... poor cat ...

[slha89]

Do we really get N810i/8MB?

http://flors.wordpress.com/2007/12/15/the-n810-codes-for-maemo-contributors-next-week/#comment-798

[munkey]

Do we really get N810i/8MB?

http://flors.wordpress.com/2007/12/15/the-n810-codes-for-maemo-contributors-next-week/#comment-798

I doubt it

read
http://flors.wordpress.com/2007/12/15/the-n810-codes-for-maemo-contributors-next-week/#comment-769

just looks like admin issues with the codes.

[Milhouse]

Do we really get N810i/8MB?

http://flors.wordpress.com/2007/12/15/the-n810-codes-for-maemo-contributors-next-week/#comment-798

I'd be very surprised at Nokia releasing a "N810i" so soon after the original N810 - think of how many N810 owners would complain! The blog post you have linked to above seems to be more wishful thinking than based on reality or business common sense.

[penguinbait]

is it next week yet?

:(

[Khertan]

hinhin .... guim had said 15 December the first time ... he don't say the what year it ll be ...

[TenSpeed]

Seems as though one developer has been able to order the N810 today, using an activated discount code:

http://www.jan-jansen.be/index.php/2008/01/03/nokia_internet_tablet_n810_part_5

Could the rest of us finally get our devices?! The excitement mounts... :)

[PhilipX]

Unfortunately mine isn't still working :-(( Perhaps because i didn't select the Nokia-UK online shop (I guess thats the online shop that Jan Jansen used...)?? I hope others are more lucky!

[TenSpeed]

Nope, it seems Jan just had a bit of luck; those Belgians must be pretty nice! :)

I just tried the Nokia Canada shop, and there doesn't even seem to be a place to enter the code. Mind you, they're still saying, "Order by Dec 19 for delivery by Dec 25", and charging 6% GST (tax); the GST went to 5% on January 1st.

Maybe next week. I'm pulling for the "enhanced N810i" theory.

[sfitz]

No luck with nokiausa.com either.

[debernardis]

Nokia Italy still doesn't accept codes :-(

[PhilipX]

Ok, little correction. Mine also worked!! Nokia.be just doesn't have a link to an online shop , therefore I tried the UK website (which does have a link to an online shop). But as also being a Belgian and by visiting "http://direct.nokia.com/countries.aspx?model=N810", I finally got my discount code to work. Perhaps this also works for other countries??
A lot of thanks to Jan for the tip!

[Xyzo]

Mine doesn't work neither :( French Nokia online store.

[TenSpeed]

Ah, to be in Belgium in the grey of winter...

So, with Jan and PhilipX taken care of, that leaves, what, 498 developers???

Should be sorted out by December 15th, as promised ;)

[ovjo12]

It works also in Sweden Nokia Online shop, but only if you use this link:
http://direct.nokia.com/countries.aspx?model=N810

:)

[MoxFulder]

In Switzerland it works too, I will purchase it tomorrow !

[penguinbait]

USA no working :confused:

[Khertan]

France still not working

[jh13]

hey no good so far on the us site still... for those of you who managed to get it to work in europe, where did the promotion prompt show up? ive only got the standard gift and coupon code fields still...

[ovjo12]

In Nokia Shop I was ask about the promotion Code, the discount is clearly mentioned after filling it in. It's also visible when performing the payment.

[sfitz]

I went out to some of the other Nokia shops and they have an obvious field for the discount code. However for the US the shop is run by Let's Talk, and where I am thinking much (if not all) of the fiasco has come from.

So it looks as if due to all the rants they decided to open up what Nokia controls and let the US happen when LetsTalk.com can pull their webservices out of their axis. :)
sorry a little java geek humor.

And I was hoping for that n810i with wimax and a 25mw argon lazer. ;)

Congrates to those that could get the codes working... that's some progress.... and gives the rest hope.

-Shawn

[jh13]

yeah looks like you're right shawn. good luck to everyone getting their codes working.

[gemniii42]

<snip>

And I was hoping for that n810i with wimax and a 25mw argon lazer. ;)

Congrates to those that could get the codes working... that's some progress.... and gives the rest hope.

-Shawn
I thought it was supposed to have the teleport feature?

[rcadden]

How do these codes work with the exchange rate? I.e. is it a set price, regardless of currency, or a set number, ie. 145 USD/EUR/etc?

[sfitz]

If I remember correctly it's 99.00Eur or the equiv US$ which is currently 145.88
So I'm expecting to pay in the US about 150+S&H.

-Shawn

[MoxFulder]

yes it is 99€ and not 99$

[ArnimS]

No luck with germany (nokia.de) yet.

http://shop.nokia.de/nokia-de/product.aspx?sku=3752591

The 'einkaufswagen' (shopping basket) gives me a field for the code, but when i enter code, it says not valid.

Has anybody in Germany gotten it to work?

[epertinez]

Don't forget Murphy's law.

Ok, first of all, I invented the N810 8GB thing. I made it myself. But I have no relation with the N810i 8mb+faster GPS thing. I don't know if this is a casuality, internal info or my proposal converted into a rumour.

Said that. Do you thing It would be clever to use the discound code before being notified to do so? What if that invention of mine or the rumor has some truth on it?

How would you feel if you buy the product a day earlier just to discover next day's email telling you your codes are operative AND a new N810i is in the market?

Murphy's law...

[twaelti]

In Switzerland it works too, I will purchase it tomorrow !

Worked and purchased yesterday :-)
-Tom, Bern/CH

[Khertan]

>epertinez

Good try to launch a rumour ... :)

[lilith]

Uhm... it looks like discount codes work only on those countries in which the "direct.nokia.com" shop exists.

If you go on http://direct.nokia.com/countries.aspx?model=N810 and try to look at the various contries, you will see that countries like Belgium and Sweden let you buy the N810 on that store, while countries like France and Italy redirect you to "shop.nokia.X", where the discount code does not work :(

[Khertan]

"like France and Italy redirect you to "shop.nokia.X", where the discount code does not work"

It s redirect you when the cookies for country is not set, but if this one is set, you can see on http://direct.nokia.com/Product.aspx?model=N810

That n810 isn't available in France on this store.

n800 is available on the french direct.nokia.com store for 259 Euros, but on the boutique.nokia.fr store where you are redirected when you choose the country it is available at 360 Euros .... !!!

boutique.nokia.fr -> 360 Euros
direct.nokia.com -> 259 Euros

Diff : 101 Euros ... OUCH !!!

[munkey]

woo hoo

erm. no mention of US?

The discount codes of the N810 maemo contributors program are going to be valid from today onwards in the supported Nokia shops. Some of the shops might not have device in stock yet. If this is the case of your country please be a little bit (more) patient.

This is the list of shops supported:

Austria
http://direct.nokia.com/countries.aspx?model=N810&country=AT&add=true

Belgium
http://direct.nokia.com/countries.aspx?model=N810&country=BE&add=true

Denmark
http://direct.nokia.com/countries.aspx?model=N810&country=DK&add=true

Finland
http://direct.nokia.com/countries.aspx?model=N810&country=FI&add=true

France
http://direct.nokia.com/countries.aspx?model=N810&country=FR&add=true

Germany
http://direct.nokia.com/countries.aspx?model=N810&country=DE&add=true

Ireland
http://direct.nokia.com/countries.aspx?model=N810&country=IE&add=true

Italy
http://direct.nokia.com/countries.aspx?model=N810&country=IT&add=true

Netherlands
http://direct.nokia.com/countries.aspx?model=N810&country=NL&add=true

Spain
http://direct.nokia.com/countries.aspx?model=N810&country=ES&add=true

Sweden
http://direct.nokia.com/countries.aspx?model=N810&country=SE&add=true

Norway
http://direct.nokia.com/countries.aspx?model=N810&country=NO&add=true

Switzerland
http://direct.nokia.com/countries.aspx?model=N810&country=CH&add=true

United Kingdom
http://direct.nokia.com/countries.aspx?model=N810&country=GB&add=true


Canada
Canadian contributors will receive further information next week.

The code will be valid until the end of February.

[TenSpeed]

THE MESSAGE HAS ARRIVED!

more to follow...

[TenSpeed]

It says:
"The discount codes of the N810 maemo contributors program are going to be valid from today onwards in the supported Nokia shops. Some of the shops might not have device in stock yet. If this is the case of your country please be a little bit (more) patient.

This is the list of shops supported:

<snip> (the usual countries)

Canada
Canadian contributors will receive further information next week.

Remember that your discount code is: XXXX. The code will be valid until the end of February. Please keep it in a safe place since this is the last time we will send it. If you have further questions please contact the customer care channel of your shop.

We had to make some changes in some codes. In case the code listed here is different than the one you received, this is the good one.

The maemo team wishes you a great time playing with the N810. Remember to share your plans and contributions at http://maemo.org ."


Next week for us Canadians, and later today for everyone else. Seems worth the wait now, doesn't it?!

Maybe ThoughtFix will get his in time for CES after all...

[TenSpeed]

Hey, you're right, USA isn't mentioned. Sorry, ThoughtFix.

Maybe there's another email coming?

[sfitz]

Well I'm in the USA and got the message with no link to a US shop.
(same message as has been posted previously)

Looks like we may need to talk with letstalk.com... :mad:

Yup sucks to be in the US.

[rcadden]

I'm considering contacting a friend in the U.K.

[lilith]

I just tried the discount code. It seems that the discount code works ONLY on the store initially chosen at submission. I tried with both the Italian and French stores, and my code works only on the French one. At that time I had specified France, without thinking to the AZERTY keyboard.... does anybody know if it is possible somehow to change this preference?

[iancumihai]

can the discount code be moved from France to Italy let's say?
he keyboard layout is azerty in france :(

[penguinbait]

uh, um, helloo


Did anyone find out why USA is not listed?

ugh!

[timsamoff]

Yeah, us Am-erikunz need us a store too, by golly! ;)

-T.

[Master of Gizmo]

I got a new discount code (the email sais some people are getting new ones). But unlike stated in the mail i still get a message that my code is invalid. So at least my discount code for germany isn't working yet.

MoG
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[zerojay]

Apparently the discount codes are good *RIGHT NOW* according to the e-mail I just received... except for Canadians who will "receive further information next week."

ARRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH.

[sfitz]

Hey at least Canada got mentioned....

I'm guessing that the US doesn't exist anymore... We are now just South Canada... Aye!?!

[rcadden]

Apparently the discount codes are good *RIGHT NOW* according to the e-mail I just received... except for Canadians who will "receive further information next week."

ARRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH.

At least you're not in the U.S. We didn't even get a mention.

[scudderfish]

Just tried my new code in the UK shop and it worked :)

[imrahil]

Just tried my new code in the UK shop and it worked :)

yeap. I confirm that. Mine is ordered and will be in Monday/Tuesday. Huuuraaayyy!

[manfredi90]

I recived an email with may new discount code and in Italy store the code work!!!!
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D :D:D:D

[Sho]

It's not working in Germany yet, it seems - at least there's a bunch of us in the IRC channel and on the list that have had no luck so far.

[slha89]

My new discount code doesn't work, although my received mail say it works. And the device is in stock.

"Please keep it in a safe place since this is the last time we will send it."

A really nice weekend... :(

[richardg1952]

Hey at least Canada got mentioned....

I'm guessing that the US doesn't exist anymore... We are now just South Canada... Aye!?!

So does that mean we finally get universal heath care?: Eh?

[slha89]

12 minutes after six o'clock. Nokia Shop is closed now. They promised me to call me back today, but nothing happens. Old and new code still doesn't work. I used a fresh browser profile w/o any extensions.

[aleksandyr]

Actually, if you remove the country from the query string, like so:

http://direct.nokia.com/countries.aspx?model=N810&add=true

You can pick the US out of the list. Doing so shows that the US store is out of stock =/

[sfitz]

Actually, if you remove the country from the query string, like so:
http://direct.nokia.com/countries.as...=N810&add=true
You can pick the US out of the list. Doing so shows that the US store is out of stock =/

Aleksandyr, while this is true, you can get to the n810 page which the link from the page you mentioned has previously gone to, and which has a discount code field. However when you enter the code it still says "your gift card has no balance".

In addition no where on the e-mail was the US store mentioned, nor that instructions would be forthcoming as was stated for Canada.

Well CES, and MacWorld are coming up bet there will be some new devices forthcoming to the market, I wonder if they will alienate the US too.

[Zuber]

At last, Yay...

Actually, I've already got the N810 and don't quality for a discount (my first internet tablet).

But it's kind of annoying knowing that most of the best developer guys are probably sitting on their hands thinking "I ain't doin nothin till I get my discount"...

Looking forward to you guys earning those discount codes with loads on new stuff ;)

Zuber

[dfn_doe]

Wow, just great... after weeks of waiting we finally get the email and the US shop is out of stock and still reporting the codes have no value...

[pycage]

Still no luck in Germany. Maybe on Monday...

[ceeceebee]

From the sublime to the ridiculous.....

I CALLED the US shop to get past the backorder business.. you CAN place orders this way. Two pieces of bad news:

1) The codes still do not work

2) The ETA for the N810 is FEB 18, 2008!

Yes, you read it right, Feb 18! A month and a half! Maybe they will come early but this whole business has blown up in Maemos/Nokias collective faces. I'm not above buying the device at retail (I bought my 770 and 800) but they are generating a lot of bad will and keeping the device out of the hands of the very people they need to build the software ecosystem.

WOW

[munkey]

From the sublime to the ridiculous.....

I CALLED the US shop to get past the backorder business.. you CAN place orders this way. Two pieces of bad news:

1) The codes still do not work

2) The ETA for the N810 is FEB 18, 2008!

Yes, you read it right, Feb 18! A month and a half! Maybe they will come early but this whole business has blown up in Maemos/Nokias collective faces. I'm not above buying the device at retail (I bought my 770 and 800) but they are generating a lot of bad will and keeping the device out of the hands of the very people they need to build the software ecosystem.

WOW

so the people in the US with discount codes have 10 days to use them before they expire at the end of Feb!

lets hope they don't sell out too quickly or that the date is not changed further into the future!

[ceeceebee]

Well in theory we will be able to order them once the codes get sorted out. Even if the web site says back-ordered, you can call the store and place the order. I hope and pray that happens before Feb 19! ;^)

[slha89]

I tried a bit and it looks like there is a 'newer' Nokia shop page (Belgium, Austria...) and the 'older' one (Italy, Germany).
The 'older' one use Digitalriver to verify the discount code. If I block digitalriver with noscripts extension, nothing happens.
How can it be, that the code is working for users from Italy and it doesn't work for users from Germany if it's the same place who verify the codes for Nokia?? (Digitalriver)

[Sho]

Well, we do know that there's something shop/country-specific going on by the French being the only ones with the "full price being substracted as discount" bug so far. If the data is entered on a per-country basis, the German operation might have gone wrong for some reason or another.

[ArnimS]

I find the visa/mc/mastercard-only policy to be very lame. In Germany the traditional way to pay is with a free bank transfer, or a legal authorization to a vendor to debit from one's account.

So to order from amazon for example, I simply authorize them as a vendor and they can debit from my bank account. To order from other online vendors, I can either transfer the money, or order cash-on-delivery (nachnahme).

Since Nokia appears to have independent country-specific online shops, it is downright insulting for the German shop to demand visa/mc/mastercard to place an order. Forcing me to apply to various banks for a credit card and subject myself to their violations of financial privacy should be illegal here.

[penguinbait]

anybody get word on USA yet?

[Sho]

I find the visa/mc/mastercard-only policy to be very lame.

Does that mean that your code has started working, btw?

[iancumihai]

hurry, the wabbit is saved. the code works, n810 on the way.

[penguinbait]

hurry, the wabbit is saved. the code works, n810 on the way.


Could you be more specific in which country you are referring to?

[R-R]

We give exactly 1 week to the north american wabbits ! Beyond that, they all get it! ;-)

[sfitz]

Originally Posted by iancumihai View Post
hurry, the wabbit is saved. the code works, n810 on the way.

Could you be more specific in which country you are referring to?

It sure wasn't the US store. Just checked 4:20pm cst code does not work.
Besides back ordered to Feb 19. I have about 1 week of give-a-$#!+ left for
Nokia and this entire CF of a fiasco.

[Milhouse]

So sad to see that almost a week into the new year and there's still not even an acknowledgement (let alone an explanation) from maemo.org of the major infrastructure failure that occurred following the release of OS2008... very sad.

This is not a well run open source project at all - too many internal conflicts which then come across as arrogance and contempt for the community. :(

[slha89]

'minor' update. After calling Nokia friday by phone (they promised to call me back) and used the contact formular to call me back too, I get today ... no answer. After trying the old and new discount code ... none works.

And I can't ask Maemo team:
'If you have further questions please contact the customer care channel of your shop.'

Usual or disaster? Don't know. But now, I'm really a bit disappointed how this all can be happen :( :( Before I only pushed a bit because I was confident and euphoric.

[sfitz]

Hmm... I bet someone from Nokia and maybe the Maemo team will be at CES in LasVegas.

It would be nice if some of the community bloggers would stop by the Nokia/Maemo booth and ask them what is going on.
I know there is an issue with there being no US option nor information, and if I'm not mistaken there is some issues with the German shop.

Also has any of the Canadian folks gotten any further word on using your codes?

-Shawn

[Sho]

I've written the German shop team as well, using the form, and have no answer back yet - as it stands, the shop reports the device as being in stock, but none of the German codes work, neither new nor old. The phone support hotline won't pick up.

[TenSpeed]

No news from Canada.

I'm still hoping they'll announce some sort of North American version at CES (WiMAX finally), and USA and Canadian developers will get access to whatever that might be. Hopefully not a gutted N810 (as in the style of several bastardized phones that get dumped on N Am). Time will tell; I'm still excited and optimistic.

[iancumihai]

Could you be more specific in which country you are referring to?
France

typo: hurry = hooray ... sorry if my last post was misleading ...

BTW: yep i will have the AZERTY keyboard ... that will be fun :)

[lilith]

Well it seems that France is not much better than other countries... The discount code DID work for me. I ordered happily the N810 on friday. I received the tracking information, and found out that when the package was almost delivered Nokia called UPS and cancelled the shipment. And even with several calls to Nokia I have not been able to know WHY the order was cancelled.... They just promised me to call me back "in the following days because of a small problem".

Anybody else got a similar experience?

[rcadden]

Well, as far as I'm concerned, this program is still defunct. Not only are the US Codes not active, but there was no mention of us in the email that we got. Still useless and annoying as crap.

I mean, really? There's 2 retail outlets in the US that are owned by Nokia that currently stock the N810. Out of the 500, obviously a small fraction are in the States, how hard could it really be to organize the use of our codes through the Flagship stores?

[MoxFulder]

This is the current status for mine (Ordered from Switzerland)
08 janv. 2008 10:30 Zurich Consignment Received At Transit Point
08 janv. 2008 09:39 Zurich Import Received
07 janv. 2008 19:53 Brussels Hub Consignment Received At Transit Point
07 janv. 2008 19:53 Brussels Hub Consignment Passed Through Transit Point
07 janv. 2008 18:16 Liege Shipped From Originating Depot
07 janv. 2008 05:24 Zurich Released From Customs

I don't really understand the first line, 5:24 where it seems the package was in ZH (Switzerland)...

[slha89]

Update for people from Germany:
I contacted Nokia-Club instead of Nokia Shop in Germany because my phone doesn't accept tone dialing atm, which is needed to go to the Nokia Shop (1=Club, 2=Shop, default=Club).

Anyway, a very friendly person :) helped me a lot to get some informations and he called his colleagues at the Nokia shop. After some minutes he was back and told me, that his colleague from Nokia Shop knows about Maemo and the 500 pieces developer discount, but it's unsure when the discount code will be activated in Germany and it's even unsure if this promotion/developer program from Maemo will be ever accepted in Germany.

:( ... I'm feeling speechless

[ceeceebee]

I'm at CES and my booth (Magellan GPS) is near Planet Nokia, I'll stop in today and see if anyone has answers. Stay tuned.

[Milhouse]

Put your biggest Magellan badge on then go ask them why the GPS in the N810/N95/etc. is so sh1t.

[anidel]

Update for people from Germany:
I contacted Nokia-Club instead of Nokia Shop in Germany because my phone doesn't accept tone dialing atm, which is needed to go to the Nokia Shop (1=Club, 2=Shop, default=Club).

Anyway, a very friendly person :) helped me a lot to get some informations and he called his colleagues at the Nokia shop. After some minutes he was back and told me, that his colleague from Nokia Shop knows about Maemo and the 500 pieces developer discount, but it's unsure when the discount code will be activated in Germany and it's even unsure if this promotion/developer program from Maemo will be ever accepted in Germany.

:( ... I'm feeling speechless

Well, being very friendly does not mean being correctly providing information :)
I am sure we all get out n810 in our hands.

[armin]

Discount Codes are now being accepted in German Nokia Online Shop:
http://armin-warda.de/screenshot00.png
http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//maemo-developers/2008-January/013774.html

[rs.]

After some minutes he was back and told me, that his colleague from Nokia Shop knows about Maemo and the 500 pieces developer discount, but it's unsure when the discount code will be activated in Germany and it's even unsure if this promotion/developer program from Maemo will be ever accepted in Germany.


I have good news for you: I just completed an order in the German store.

I believe that the reason for people not getting their codes accepted in several countries is a problem with the URL forwarding from the link that was given in the Email with the codes.
(Now I know even more, why Nokia should abandon their website-flashy-flashy policy, btw.)

But there still is a bug in the procedure and I'm not sure, if my order is actually valid.
So my proposition is: I'll let you know if the shop actually fulfills my order ASAP. Since it's an express order, the email should come tomorrow.
As soon as I have a confirmation in my inbox I'll post the step by step procedure to get your well deserved discounted machines.

In case that there is indeed a problem with the codes, we'll have to find out how this mess could have happened, make up our minds what to do about it and not whine.

We don't want to have even more hassle around this whole unfortunate thread, do we? ;)

[Sho]

But there still is a bug in the procedure and I'm not sure, if my order is actually valid.

You mean the "full price discount" bug experienced by armin, I presume?

[rs.]

You mean the "full price discount" bug experienced by armin, I presume?

yup. exactly.
and i wouldn't want to give anybody inside a Nokia department somewhere in the world a reason to bring this good maemo-initiative to a fall with means of "politics".
that's why i wanted to be sure what kind of bug this new bug is.
maybe it's just pure wealth and goodness, but who knows ;)
now you can call me paranoid... :D

[Texrat]

This is the current status for mine (Ordered from Switzerland)
08 janv. 2008 10:30 Zurich Consignment Received At Transit Point
08 janv. 2008 09:39 Zurich Import Received
07 janv. 2008 19:53 Brussels Hub Consignment Received At Transit Point
07 janv. 2008 19:53 Brussels Hub Consignment Passed Through Transit Point
07 janv. 2008 18:16 Liege Shipped From Originating Depot
07 janv. 2008 05:24 Zurich Released From Customs

I don't really understand the first line, 5:24 where it seems the package was in ZH (Switzerland)...

My N810 was a gift from the device group and not part of this program, but I watched it go from Finland to England, back to Finland, back to England, and then here to the US.

Insane.

[Sho]

yup. exactly.
and i wouldn't want to give anybody inside a Nokia department somewhere in the world a reason to bring this good maemo-initiative to a fall with means of "politics".

Well, I'm definitely not going to quickly order to exploit that in some way - I guess I'll wait a couple of days to see if it's fixed, or what happens to your and armin's orders. Waiting is annoying, but after this long a few more days won't kill me I guess.

[slha89]

When I called Nokia from work, a person from Nokia told me that it's unsure when the code will be activated and as I'm an unbeliever, the 1st thing at home is trying the discount code - and it works!!??

I don't read the newest postings of this thread before I ordered for full price discount too!? ... good or bad? :( We'll see.

I believe everything if I have a working device in my hands. It's like a big adventure game and 500 people want reach the finish line :)

[rs.]

When I called Nokia from work, a person from Nokia told me that it's unsure when the code will be activated and as I'm an unbeliever, the 1st thing at home is trying the discount code - and it works!!??

Cool. So maybe it was just a coincidence that they accepted my code when I thought I had finally figured out, how it worked?
The better!
Unfortunately there's no way for me to find out now ;)

Let's hope the codes begin to work everywhere slowly but surely.