Separated at birth : Nokia's inspiration for the 770 ?

[fpp]

By total chance I came across this thing today. I had never heard of it before, and it had not been mentioned on ITT yet, so I guess it's worth pointing out as a curio...

http://www.sibelle.org/nex/nmain.htm

So yes, it's, like, three years old and discontinued. Yes, it was never sold (officially) outside Asia. Yes, it "ran" Windows CE.Net (yuk). And yes, it was more like 1300$ than 300$... :-)

But look at the form factor, the size, the general layout (even the buttons!), the screen and resolution... the builtin Wifi (no BT though)... isn't this strange ? That baby was ahead of its time...

<BULLHORN ON>
...AND IT HAD AN OPTIONAL ULTRATHIN KEYBOARD AS A SCREEN COVER INSTEAD OF A STUPID COSMIC RAY SHIELDING -- NOKIA, COULDN'T YOU HAVE COPIED THAT TOO ?????????????
</BULLHORN OFF>

There, I said it :-)

[gultig]

Holy cow that's cool!

128MB RAM and a 400Mhz PXA.

Yeah, I wonder if I could find a used 160 keyboard and link it up to the 770 somehow.

[thoughtfix]

That is uncanny but the resolution looks rather low.

[Mike Cane]

LVTT:

I forgot abiout it. Uncanny. But I thought I fondled one at PC Expo back when and I recall it being larger than the 770!

[thoughtfix]

Wow - it actually has comparable specs... though was MUCH more expensive at release:
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2003Dec/bpd20031217022481.htm

US$1,250

[wramos52]

There were two other models by Samsung, the xp30 and xp40. The s160 sold reecently on ebay for over $450 and from time to time another pops up.

Bill

[Karel Jansens]

That is uncanny but the resolution looks rather low.

:rolleyes: It has exactly the same resolution as the 770. The dpi-ratio is a bit lower than the 770's, but only because the Nexio's screen is slightly bigger.

[fpp]

Holy cow that's cool!
128MB RAM and a 400Mhz PXA.
Yeah, I wonder if I could find a used 160 keyboard and link it up to the 770 somehow.
I'm not an electronics wizard, but these custom connectors don't look enticing to me...:
http://www.sibelle.org/nex/nkybd.htm

If you really want to try, it seems Dynamism still has some left :-)

[thoughtfix]

We can hope ThinkOutside makes a Stowaway for 770 owners.

I STILL think third party slider covers are the way to go.

[fpp]

yep, that would be cool. But it better have a TAB key ! :-)
(the Nexio's didn't...)
Something like the keyboard on the clamshell Zaurus, taking advantage of the extra width, would be a good start. Not to mention a Psion Series5 (*sigh*)

[gultig]

:D

My thoughts on keyboards since day one has been:

1) a slim keyboard (and maybe an integrated extra battery too) that is the thickness and width of a 770, but only about an inch or so tall so it can slide into the cover with the 770 hanging out the top like this:
:
_____________
| |
|| 770 ||
|| ||
| ------------- |
| Keyboard Here |
\_______________/


B) Same concept as #1 above, but the keyboard is built as part of the cover across the front so that when the 770 is protected, it goes in all the way, but when the 770 is flipped around it only slides in up to the keyboard.

Where the third parties at?

[fpp]

Well, now we have the answer, straight from Ari Jaaksi's blog :
http://jaaksi.blogspot.com/

"We studied Samsung Nexio while designing 770. I wonder what happened to the Nexio."

:-)

[Remote User]

from Ari Jaaksi's blog :http://jaaksi.blogspot.com/
"We studied Samsung Nexio while designing 770. I wonder what happened to the Nexio."
the Nexio wasn't widely available. It sold for US$1249 without accessories. Its OS was Windows CE. The Origami, if/when it appears, will sell for about $800 according to estimates I've read. What will the primary effect of the Origami be for device manufacturers trying to design & build handheld devices running Microsoft's OS? Hey, that's easy - it will kill their products and their zeal to ever build a device with a Microsoft OS again.

How many handheld devices with Microsoft OS's have failed? Virtually all of them. Why? They're too expensive, they are based on a proprietary OS & tools, they are designed to prolong the overdue death of the PC.

Here's a hilarious video (http://snipurl.com/design) about how Microsoft's repackaging of the iPod might take place.