canadaian game plan

[smackpotato]

If your Canadian what is your game plan for acquiring a n810. I have an American discount coupon and would like to take advantage of it. Is there a service that forwards this kind of thing. I could likely pick it up in Sault Michigan if there was a place there.

[zerojay]

No, you'll have to have a friend in the US order it for you, receive it for you and then send it up to you. That's what I had to do to get my N800 and it's what I have to do for my N810.

[Hedgecore]

We have an office in Michigan, so I could always have a coworker do it. Thing is... I don't know if I've got that much to drop on a tablet. :(

[statwrangler]

Has anyone experience with or comments on Expansys.ca? They have the N810 on their web site.

[EIPI]

I have heard good things about Expansys.ca, but I have not used them myself. You can also have your package delivered to a UPS store in Sault, MI, and then pick it up from there. The UPS stores will receive packages for you, for a nominal fee. Call your closest store to find their terms...

[Hedgecore]

NEVER ship international with UPS. You end up getting hosed with 'brokerage fees'. They provide their own customs brokers and charge you out the *pick an orifice... you know which one...*. A coworker bought some guitar equipment for a deal from a US company and paid more than he would've CDN. They also held his package hostage until he agreed to pay the fee.

I believe, though I'm not sure, that expansys.ca (like TigerDirect) is a reseller and therefore leverages a hefty increase. With the way the dollar is, don't pay more than $479.

*Edit: Nokia manufactures these things, anyone know someone that can be contacted (ie sales/marketing)? It's not a region specific device like their cell phones, they ARE selling the N800 on nokia.ca... Is it too much to ask that they take our money for a product *they* produce?

*Edit #2: I sent an email to customer service at nokia.ca - - I'll post the useless form reply when I get it.

*Edit #3: CDN $504.95 on expansys.ca (not a HUGE markup, but still.)

[wetcoast]

Lurker here, decloaking.

I'm a software developer, managing a boutique consultancy based in Vancouver, and recently bought a N800 from the US to start working on a proof of concept product for IT's.

I'm frankly stunned that there isn't a better (or real) distribution mechanism for IT's here in Canada, one of the most internet connected countries in the world, and I must say that the apparent lack of support Nokia has for countries like Canada has made me delay the decision to invest some longer than I would have otherwise. While we could sell any product which leads from this R+D work anywhere of course, its nice to have local users which you can interact with in person... and users outside the usual early adopter group I suspect most N770/N800 (and probably N810) buyers are.

That's certainly not going to happen here in Canada until you can buy one at an authorized Nokia dealer in every major city, which you can't do today; or until Amazon.com and the like are permitted to ship to Canadian residents as well, with warranty coverage by Nokia.ca.

Its great to see this ground breaking work by Nokia but its also frustrating to see the inertia of a large company stymie the forward progress that otherwise could be made.

Nokia used to be a market dominator here in Canada; my sense (although I don't follow wireless phones closely at all) that isn't the case any more. Open systems based IT's will be common place within 5 years, from several manufacturers if not more, I would guess. Is Nokia going to waste any potential early lead it has now just because it hasn't got its act together with distribution?

Seems so, at least from the Canadian perspective. Is it frustrating in other easy to do business with countries?

[smackpotato]

2hedgecore. when UPS first came here the Canadian government would only let them deliver in the back of taxis, else they would be competing with Canada Post. I think UPS's exorbitant brokerage fees are there way of getting back,

[Hedgecore]

smacK: That's fine, my way of getting back is by using FedEx or Purolator. :)

wet: Agreed about the Canadian market. What's funny, is I had justified it in my mind by saying Canada only has a mere 30,000,000 people in it. Then I find out Finland has 5,000,000. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

[kingka]

ordered. came to about 464 I think. through expansys. they say 3-5 business days. and it should ship near end of this month.

[cvmiller]

If your Canadian what is your game plan for acquiring a n810. I have an American discount coupon and would like to take advantage of it. Is there a service that forwards this kind of thing. I could likely pick it up in Sault Michigan if there was a place there.

Not sure about the coupon, but I orderd my N800 from Amazon and had them ship it to the closest UPS store (Ogdensburg) where they kindly received it for me. Then it was a short drive across the border, paid $5 US to pick up the box. MUCH cheaper than having it shipped across the border.

Natually, this only works if you live close to the border (which 80% of us do in Canada).

:disclaimer: no affiliation with www.theupsstore.com just a happy customer

Craig...

[exon]

Thanks for the info, Craig. If I did something similar, what should my plan be at the border (I'm in Vancouver)? Declare (which I'm inclined to do)? Is there duty/tax to be paid? I'm not asking what *you* did, mind you. :)

[Hedgecore]

exon: My friend and I claimed our 770s. Since the customs guy was friendly ("Anything ot declare?" "Yup!"), I asked what was involved. He said we'd have to pay duty as we weren't in the country long enough, and when I asked what the percentage was, he said sales tax (which in Ontario is 8%). I wish the buck was still at $1.10... :) (What's the sales tax in BC?)

[EIPI]

Just to clarify, I was suggesting that you can have the product shipped from a US online store to a UPS store at a border town (e.g. Niagara, NY, etc). That way, if the price is better in the US, and they do not ship to Canada, you can still get the product, provided you are willing to drive to pick it up. Done it a few times already.

I agree though that UPS brokerage fees are ridiculous for anything coming into Canada.

[Hedgecore]

I'm just gung ho. If they screw you in one way, I won't deal with them period. :) (Sony's lost a few grand off me over the past 2 yrs. Billing for Starwars Galaxies time even though my account was expired and deleted.)

[exon]

This article http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/262161 suggests that cellphones are duty free when coming back into Canada, regardless of the length of your stay or what else is included in your "personal exemption". The Customs Tariff description document they link to seems to agree (if you're brave enough to wade through it - I wouldn't recommend it). This assumes that the box indicates it was made in the US (or Mexico I guess), and that you can convince the border agent that it's a cell phone. :)

I'm happy (well, willing) to pay tax but adding duty can suddenly make it not worthwhile. Recent news reports also suggest that border guards are getting a bit testy with the massive wave of shoppers heading south, so I suspect the one I ran across wouldn't be as friendly as Hedgecore's.

(Sales tax in BC is 7% but I thought they collected GST at the border (or HST). You're supposed to voluntarily send PST to the province. :)

[dont]

Thanks for the info, Craig. If I did something similar, what should my plan be at the border (I'm in Vancouver)? Declare (which I'm inclined to do)? Is there duty/tax to be paid? I'm not asking what *you* did, mind you. :)

I have done this several times for all sorts of stuff - including a 770. I have never been charged duty even for Chinese made tools but I have usually been charged GST and PST. Occasionally, I have been waved through if the item has been less than $100.00.

It is worth getting a tracking number and following the package until it shows up at the UPS Store.

I used to figure that I could pay for the trip and the $5.00 UPS Store fee by filling up with gas on the US side - but that is no longer much of a deal compared to Cdn. prices.

[lavo]

Lurker here, decloaking.

<snip>

Seems so, at least from the Canadian perspective. Is it frustrating in other easy to do business with countries?

Nope, just as hard. The N800 is *double* the US price here in Australia and $200AUS more than the UK price (with taxes etc evened out). It makes it hard when the US dollar is weak against the Aussie dollar, yet the Aussie has made no real ground on any other currency.

Its made worse that nobody in retail is carrying one, so I can't even look at an N800 to see what its like in the flesh. But there are a million N95 ads everywhere :rolleyes:

[Vidconf]

NCIX (Vancouver) have the N810 for pre-order for $469.99.

Anyone have experience with this Canadian etailer?

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=N63708&vpn=02703R1&manufacture=NOKIA%20-%20ESERIES

Cheers

VidConf

[darethehair]

Vidconf: I have ordered lots of stuff from NCIX, and never had any problem. In fact, my top Canadian places for ordering computer/tech stuff are:

NCIX
TigerDirect
DirectCanada

[Vidconf]

Thanks darethehair:

I went ahead and ordered the N810 from NCIX :)

No date for delivery yet :confused:

Also ordered the Asus EEE PC :)

Cheers

VidConf

[aki]

Second thanks. I've been querying NCIX a few times a week wondering if it's even show up there. Ordered. I live in Vancouver and it's a great place to shop. I save on shipping but get hit with the PST, oh well.

Now, the anxious wait till I get my grubby paws on it.

[johnwps]

Thanks a lot! Just ordered one from NCIX.

Hope we could have it soon :)

[R-R]

I hope coupon code can be used in any country...

Also DHL is as bad as UPS on border charges...

And on a final note, why can't NCIX use our nokia coupons for those who have one!?

[topher]

Ordered via MobilePlanetOnline (you have to call them, as their website does not support foreign orders). Shipped today via FedEx (for $80), should be here tomorrow. No UPS, no SSN, no nonsense. A little bit more than Expansys.ca or NCIX, but worthwhile, since it's in stock!

[mwiktowy]

(Sony's lost a few grand off me over the past 2 yrs. Billing for Starwars Galaxies time even though my account was expired and deleted.)

The same thing happened to me ... that and the CDAudio rootkit/DRM nonsense ... I have blacklisted Sony forever.

[iball]

DHL in Europe is horrible...they called me on the phone and told me I had to come to the Frankfurt airport to pick up some IT gear I had ordered for work.
I informed them that they can munch on a bowl of penises and that there was no frickin' way I was going to do their job for them. They brought it to me the next day.

[kingka]

Ordered via MobilePlanetOnline (you have to call them, as their website does not support foreign orders). Shipped today via FedEx (for $80), should be here tomorrow. No UPS, no SSN, no nonsense. A little bit more than Expansys.ca or NCIX, but worthwhile, since it's in stock!

isnt mobile planet the same company as Expansys.ca? how did you manage to get yours shipped today? I ordered from expansys, i think. or was it mobile planet.... anyways, let me know when you're ships in. I may cancel my order and go with MP..

[topher]

Oops, correction: mobilecityonline.com. Too many similar URLs....

Sorry for the confusion.

[Hedgecore]

TigerDirect just posted the N810... $548 (OUCH)

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3408772&CatId=228

*Edit: GOOD NEWS! In Ontario, that's $625 after tax. Converting CAD$625.85 = USD$634.05

Technically speaking, WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT!?

[ara178]

I ordered mine on the Nov. 19th for $457 (+ $20 shipping via UPS express) and received it in TO on 21st. total cost $477.

[kingka]

yea, from where?

[Vidconf]

I ordered mine on the Nov. 19th for $457 (+ $20 shipping via UPS express) and received it in TO on 21st. total cost $477.

Where did you order it?

I'll cancel my NCIX order if I can get one NOW:)

Cheers

Vidconf

[Hedgecore]

And how did you get by having to pay UPS a ridiculous brokerage fee / duty?

[ara178]

I got it from J&R (very dependable merchant), jr.com , listed for $479, but they will sell for less (I ordered by phone). shipping to Canada is $19.95 UPS express (you'll get it in 2 days). You'll have to pay GST & PST when you receive it, about $64 cdn.

[ara178]

It is a great tool but I don't like the GPS, it is not a REAL GPS - it will only show your current location, but it will not tell you how to get to your destination. So if you are lost or take a wrong turn...n810 will only show your current location - which is useless. If you want directions, you'll have pay $130/ 36 months...sorry...i should have purchased a simple GPS.

Also, if you want to change the default home city to Toronto, you can't. Toronto is not listed, you'll have to settle for Ottawa.

[R-R]

It is a great tool but I don't like the GPS, it is not a REAL GPS - it will only show your current location, but it will not tell you how to get to your destination. So if you are lost or take a wrong turn...n810 will only show your current location - which is useless. If you want directions, you'll have pay $130/ 36 months...sorry...i should have purchased a simple GPS.

Also, if you want to change the default home city to Toronto, you can't. Toronto is not listed, you'll have to settle for Ottawa.

What does this have to do with Canada? oh yes we're a bit lost up north...
and well, use MaemoMapper? ;-)

[aki]

Has anyone who ordered an n810 from NCIX received theirs yet? I'm just curious. I had chatted with a fellow at the Burnaby store and he related that the units are a particularly troublesome special order and while it /may/ come in within the 2 weeks, that it's quite possible that it can take more.

Incidentally, for those of you in Vancouver, there's a company called the letter carrier in Point Roberts that you can have stuff mailed to. See here:

http://thelettercarrier.com/

While I personally haven't used that service, my boss has this past week used this service for some orders from newegg. It's super close to the border at Point Roberts and after looking, it even seem reachable by bus. (Go to 1st ave and cross the border, 2 blocks and you're there) Site doesn't seem to mention it, but apparently you don't need to register with them before you get the package sent to them either. Just give the ordering company the address. They're doing booming business and it seems that they'd like you to wait at least a day after your package arrives for you show up to claim your package.

[Vidconf]

Has anyone who ordered an n810 from NCIX received theirs yet? I'm just curious. I had chatted with a fellow at the Burnaby store and he related that the units are a particularly troublesome special order and while it /may/ come in within the 2 weeks, that it's quite possible that it can take more.

Ordered from NCIX on November 21st.

Still no status on shipping:confused:

I may cancel the order and oder from the US if it does not ship this week.

Any other Canadian Etailer with N810 stock on hand?

VidConf

[Vidconf]

I cancelled my NCIX order.

Ordered the N810 from the Nokia Canada Store:
http://store.nokia.ca/home.php?cat=258&sort=orderby&sort_direction=0&page=3


$485.00 plus tax

They use UPS for shipping.

N810 arrives tomorrow :)

Cheers
VidConf

[Hedgecore]

Hey, thx for this! Still outrageously expensive to me so I'll wait, but I'm glad to see our subarctic lumber village of a country has finally joined the world stage in being able to shovel our hard earned money over to Nokia. :D

[TenSpeed]

Wow, it's in the Canadian Nokia store! Does anyone know if this means developer codes can be used there? It's SO MUCH EASIER than having to order from the US - no border hassles, no shipping concerns (I'm currently dealing with "an exception" on a package from UPS - meaning, they lost it - and it's a week overdue; coming from Vermont, USA).

Please, Nokia, have mercy on the Great White North! :)

[ackbar]

Good. Lets hope that the Canadian retailers will get stock soon.

[Hedgecore]

TenSpeed: Your best bet is to call.

[TenSpeed]

Well, I emailed Nokia Canada instead - tried calling, but decided to hang up after 40+ rings and no answer (after navigating menu hell). I'll post any response as soon as it arrives.

[johnwps]

the website , store.nokia.ca, is too slow to put order......what's going on there? :(

[Vidconf]

the website , store.nokia.ca, is too slow to put order......what's going on there?

Yah the site sucks, really slow.

I got the N810 this afternoon. :D

The site says they use Purolator but it was delivered by UPS.

BTW:
I never tried the discount code. So I paid the full price. :eek:

Cheers

VidConf

[smackpotato]

I tried the developers discount. it doesn't work as of this afternoon

[R-R]

Well, I emailed Nokia Canada instead - tried calling, but decided to hang up after 40+ rings and no answer (after navigating menu hell). I'll post any response as soon as it arrives.

I tried emailing too, 2 days ago, still nothing... i know of at least 3 persons (me included) in Canada with coupons, with you that makes 4... i wonder how much of the 500 are actually here.

Let's hope for an easy solution... :)

EDIT: I've asked flors at http://flors.wordpress.com/2007/11/10/34/ to see if he could help too...

[johnwps]

the website , store.nokia.ca, is too slow to put order......what's going on there?

Yah the site sucks, really slow.

I got the N810 this afternoon. :D

The site says they use Purolator but it was delivered by UPS.

BTW:
I never tried the discount code. So I paid the full price. :eek:

Cheers

VidConf


how many days did you get your order ?
I just ordered it via nokia.ca tonight. I wonder when I could have it..

thanks

[Vidconf]

how many days did you get your order ?
I just ordered it via nokia.ca tonight. I wonder when I could have it..

Mine was delivered in 24 hours.

Got it updated to the latest build (it was loaded with OS2008 v. 1.2007.42-18) so I loaded the latest (OS2008 v. 1.2007.42-19)

Works well with all my online stuff: :)


Online - stock trade via TD Canada Trust
Outlook Web access - for work
Online banking
etc


Cheers

VidConf

[smackpotato]

discount codes will be honored at the canadian nokia store. ya!

[morrison]

Hey guys

I've been doing a lot of hunting around online, and the best deals I came across for Canadians are the following:

1) Buy.com Canada - they are presently out of stock but selling the 810 (http://www.ca.buy.com/product.aspx?sku=206228943) for CAD $432 + PST & GST. Free shipping, and I think they have a 5% discount on at the moment.

2) This guy over at eBay (http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230204133721) is selling them for US $445 and $31 shipping to Canada via USPS. Since he is not using UPS, you should not get dinged with any customs and broker fees.

[kingka]

wow. I should have waited. I ordered mine from some place in the states I think. came to about 515? all together

[morrison]

Well, 515 isn't that bad if that's the full total you paid. The end price from the 2 sources I listed above works out to $478-$485 so you didn't pay that much extra.

I am really wondering about the Buy.com Canada though, and if it's even legit that they are "getting stock". I tried contacting their customer support to ask the question of when they will receive stock, and I got a delivery failure on the email address! That doesn't look good.

[smog]

ca.buy.com took 3 weeks to put a "in-stock" n800 on the UPS truck.

now I just hope I will get it before Chrismass

[Hedgecore]

I might be a little idealistic... but shouldn't the manufacturer be offering a bit of a competitive price on these things? They're the most expensive option...

[TenSpeed]

"Dealers may sell for less" comes to mind.

I'm pretty sure there's a legal reason behind it; something about anti-dumping legislation, perhaps. Not to mention the fact that undercutting your own retailers is a great way to lose retailers :)

Sure hope those developer codes are activated soon - tomorrow is the last possible day for Nokia Canada orders to be shipped in time for Christmas (according to their site). Maybe I should plan for a Happy New Year instead???

[ackbar]

I've been waiting on ca.buy.com to get my n810 since nov 23. They keep sending the generic "we are working on your order" email about once a week now.

[Mogarch]

I bought my N800 through Expansys.ca in early November with no problems. They ship out of the Mobile Planet warehouse in Bloomington Illinois. It arrived in 4 days.

You are legally buying from their Canadian office in Mississauga so you will pay GST and PST. Shipping was 14.95 via UPS. No brokerage fees (Been there with UPS, not pretty). Price varies with the strength of the Loonie but that week I paid CDN$241.00.
Last week I bought a Dell bluetooth keyboard and Case Logic portable Hard Drive case as a N800 case (saw that mentioned on another post) again from Expansys.ca. Four day delivery in the December rush! not bad.

Only downside I can see is that Nokia Canada probably regard the unit as grey market and will not honour the warranty is I have a problem. I took that risk. BTW has anyone ever seen Nokia tablets for sale in Canada except from the Nokia website?

[technut]

BTW has anyone ever seen Nokia tablets for sale in Canada except from the Nokia website?Dell Canada and a few other sites (http://www.shopbot.ca/p-45601.html) have sold the N800. I don't think any of them have the N810 at this point.

[morrison]

I just searched Future Shop and Best Buy, but they don't have any Nokia tablets. Seeing as both companies are owned by the same, they seem to have mostly the same product selection between chains.

As far as a Canadian retailer, I haven't seen one either. I was going to order an N810 from Buy.com Canada but I don't like how their listing is always out of stock. Also, their customer support is not very helpful (at least not for me).

From everywhere I have been looking, this guy on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.ca/New-Nokia-N810-Internet-GPS-WiFi-Tablet_W0QQitemZ230205529336) seems the best choice for Canadians. They have 100% feedback on almost 5700 feedbacks (which is pretty amazing!). Located in Allegheny PA, and ship via USPS. They currently sell the N810 for US $445 with shipping of $31, and seem to keep getting a steady supply of stock.

If anyone finds a better place to buy one from, please let us know!

[EIPI]

After a long hiatus, tigerdirect.ca has n800's in stock (http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2817195&CatId=228). Hopefully that means they will soon have n810's also.

[Hedgecore]

Tigerdirect.ca did indeed have N810s. I went to the store in Markham Ontario and they had a lone N800 in the case (first and only time I've physically seen one, heh.) Never saw any N810s physically yet.

If I can get one for about $350, looks like I'm going to have more to rant and rave about :)

[EIPI]

Oh, I didn't realize that they had the N810 on their site before. When I was at the Mississauga store about 2 months ago, they had several N800's, and a few 770's. I actually made a sale, so to speak, to a customer who was browsing by. He picked up a 770 for $149 due to my sales pitch. The topic of another thread entirely "How many people have you converted to the dark side"....

[morrison]

After a long hiatus, tigerdirect.ca has n800's in stock (http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2817195&CatId=228). Hopefully that means they will soon have n810's also.

good.. hope they get the n810 soon. I am really tempted to buy one of these now, but I think I should wait a few more weeks to see if the price comes down just a little. I am such a cheap stingy bastard, I get nervous whenever I have to spend more than $250 on a gadget :p

[sarah11918]

FWIW,

Amazon.com is one of the few etaillers that doesn't put up a fuss if your shipping address is different from your billing address -- even in a different country. So, if you happen to be traveling to the US, staying in a hotel or with friends, and can time your delivery dates, that's always an option for Canadians.

Last time I looked, they were offering next day delivery on the N810s, if you just can't wait! ;)

[Hedgecore]

Just to add to that post above, I ordered the iGO Stowaway Keyboard to a coworker's place in the US with my CDN Visa billing address and everything went fine. (Scary) :)

[dont]

Beware aware that Amazon ships DHL-home by default and they are having lot of delivery problems:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/forum/cd/discussion.html/ref=cm_cd_pg_oldest?ie=UTF8&cdForum=Fx20DX5GEB7TUX8&cdPage=1&cdSort=newest&cdThread=Tx2WJ2CDSTMRSZ0

(More than 700 posts from 500 paying customers in 13 days)

I am still waiting for my second iGO Stowaway Keyboard which was supposed to have been delivered 17 Dec on 2-day delivery. My first order never made it through and Amazon sent me a replacement - which is the one I am waiting for.

I have been using Amazon.com from Canada for quite a while. In the past I have been able to track delivery right to the UPS store. Now DHL-home only say that they hand it over the USPS in Ogdensburg. I can't track it and I can't find it. After Christmas I will try again. Sigh.

Anyway the lesson is to insist that Amazon do not use DHL-home, even if it costs significantly more to ship your parcel. Apparently, you have to do this by asking Amazon to call you about your order before processing it. I have not tried this yet, I just hope that Amazon/DHL can solve this problem before my next order.

[sarah11918]

I'm not familiar with DHL, but looking at the thread you referenced, I assume it's a crappy delivery service. :)

I haven't had any problems in the (albeit) few times I've used Amazon.com to ship to a US hotel. One item I shipped well advanced, taking advantage of free shipping, to be held by the hotel until my arrival. Even next day delivery while I was at the hotel has been fine. I wasn't even aware of exactly who the delivery carrier was -- I guess because it went smoothly!

I'm exploring similar options now for getting my hands on an "eye-fi (http://www.eye.fi)." The consensus seems to be that eBay is the only current Canadian shipping address choice for that item. No retail outfit will ship to Canada, and no Canadian seller is offering them.

Good luck, smackpotato! We Canadians do certainly know your pain! (And, what's up with no SkypeIn, neither?!) :confused:

[Thaumaturgist]

I ordered my N810 directly from the nokia.ca web-site on Dec 18th; the day
before the Dec 19th date touted on the web page "guaranteeing"
delivery by Christmas. Initially I wasn't too hopeful as I had phoned
Nokia earlier and asked if they had any N810s in stock if I ordered via their
web site. They said nope - probably about three weeks. In spite of that
I pleasantly surprised to get a shipping email on Dec 20th saying it was
on its way leaving Concord Ontario heading for Richmond BC. However, it
is not coming via Purolatur as per their web-site but via UPS. The UPS
site says it is being re-scheduled for delivery Jan 02, 2008. While not
in time for Christmas it is better than waiting three+ weeks. Definitely
looking forward to it.

Cheers,

[Hedgecore]

This is when you call back fishing for a discount. I hate UPS because of their brokerage fees for international shipments. They're #*$&listed with me just like Sony. Not only that but they couldn't guarantee delivery which kinda breaches why you made the sale. If you do call, be nice to the CSR - - it's the holiday season and they're just a pleb put under 50 layers of the people to the person who can actually do anything.

[Hedgecore]

(Look, I'm adding to an existing thread even though I want personal attention!)

My fellow Canuckistanis... What's hot right now for the N810? I've been looking around but I'd love to see something $425 or less.

[morrison]

I've been looking around too, but I can't find anything in that price range or less. Does anyone have any estimate on how long it may take the prices to go down? It seems all the most expensive sellers are the Canadian ones. I thought Nokia.ca was the most expensive at $485, but those guys at expansys.ca take the gold at $509. Add PST+GST and shipping, and it makes for a ridiculous price.

The best place to keep an eye out is probably eBay.

[ackbar]

I had the N810 on preorder @ ca.buy.com for $400.88. I just canceled it since I've been waiting since the 23rd of Nov. and have yet to see anything.

[Hedgecore]

I pretty much decided today that I'll get away from my ancient 770 and go for an N810. The N800 would suit my needs but screw it, it's only $200 more and it's brand new. :)

Unless I can find a decent Canadian price (I don't wanna do Ebay for something like this, I want it new), it looks like a roadtrip to the US is in order. We can still get into the country via car until 2009 now. (And by then there might be a new president who isn't as much of a fear monger that they'll scrap the plans entirely.)

[morrison]

Unless I can find a decent Canadian price (I don't wanna do Ebay for something like this, I want it new), it looks like a roadtrip to the US is in order. We can still get into the country via car until 2009 now. (And by then there might be a new president who isn't as much of a fear monger that they'll scrap the plans entirely.)

Ok, here's one option for you if you are considering going to the US to pick up. Just order it from Amazon.com. They have the N810 in stock for $439.99 and you will qualify for FREE super saver shipping. I've bought many items from Amazon over the years, and they are one of the best online merchants ever IMO. I thought about ordering one, but I'm too lazy to drive down to Buffalo from Toronto (also, lately I am toying with the idea of just buying the N800 and waiting to get 810 later).

Here's the N810 link (http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N810-Portable-Internet-Tablet/dp/B000Y4AH3C/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1199080712&sr=8-1).

[Surak]

Or ...

You could save yourself the hastle and expense of travelling to the USA, avoid their paranoid (everyone's a terrorist!) border crossing procedures, and avoid spending money down there, keeping a couple tax dollars away from their brutally pathetic government .... and order your N810 directly from Nokia Canada.

Sure, it costs a little more, but I got mine delivered 2 days after it was ordered, and my tax dollars stayed at home.

[Surak]

Well, you could do that and assume that no one will tell customs to be expecting you, and risk:
-fines
-confiscation of the N810 plus the vehical used to transport it over the border!
-jail time for smuggling and tax evasion when they can't locate the friend that supposedly gifted it to you, or your friend can't prove that he bought it, drawing him into the trouble.

... acquiring a criminal record that will prevent you from entering the USA (and many other countries) in the future.

Or, you could just declare it, as you are required to do for all goods regardless of how you acquire them.

If you are in the US for 48 hours, you can bring back $400 of goods duty free, and just pay duty on the rest. Items manufactured in the US or Canada, or that are not marked as manufactured elsewhere are duty free under NAFTA. Regardless you have to pay the GST and possibly PST depending on the province.

And you may want to research whether or not 'gifts' are still subject to duty or taxes according to their true value.

I really dont get why people risk all that trouble over such a small amount of money. If those dollars are so critical to you, than I'd suggest not making the purchase at all, you probably need the money more for food and shelter.

[Surak]

hahaa too funny.

I guess Hedgecore got his message deleted ... the one posted between my two posts above, that described his intentions to smuggle an N810 in from the USA ... while i was busy writing my response.

[Hedgecore]

HAHAHAHHAHA nice try. :)

In all honesty I'd rather not go to the US. I liked San Francisco, everywhere else felt like being on the wrong side of the fence in a zoo.

I went to a punk show in Vegas and kids had back patches (the 1ft x 1ft band patches) wrapped around half their calves on their bondage pants... and most of em were that size. That isn't right! (Nevermind the fact it was the Exploited playing and the kids started slam dancing.. . I'da rather faced down a steamroller.)

[morrison]

ALMOST $600!!!

I just received my N810, and after weeks and weeks of searching for a good price I feel like I paid the highest. Get this, I ordered a brand new one off ebay for US $435 + $30 for USPS shipping. The Canadian dollar at the time was trading at higher than the US. However, by the time PayPal calculated things out, I had paid "$479" Canadian. I thought I could avoid the PST/GST using USPS, as I was never required to pay anything extra on packages coming in from the States via USPS -- but when I received the item from Canada post, I was required to pay an additional $110 in PST and GST!!! I wonder if it's because it was shipped using "USPS express" ? When I add everything up, that puts my grand total at almost $600 for this N810. Jesus Christ!! I don't even feel like opening the box.

[EIPI]

Wow! That is steep!

[febb]

Well..

That is pretty much what was payed by people here in Mexico for an N800 when it came out here at the Nokia flagship store. Now that the N810 is out (in the US), the price of the N800 here has dropped to about $350.00

I must mention that the N800 was announced and started selling here much later than in the US. I got my N800 in the US, as you may guess.... now I am looking to get an N810 :)

[morrison]

Here's an update on something else I just discovered...... The Canada Border Services Agency assessed the value of my N810 as $800 on the import form. So I paid essentially double the PST/GST I should have. I had to pay this amount to the Canada Post guy delivering the package, using my credit card.

Now I am wondering what I should do.. should I just call my credit card company and get them to cancel this transaction or should I go through the elaborate "appeal" process to ask CBSA for a refund.

Another thing which pisses me off is that the sender marked the value of the item as gift and $0. Why would our stupid customs take it upon themselves to still charge me PST/GST? I didn't ask the seller to mark it as a gift, but seeing as they did, you would think that the big bad border boys would just let it go as a gift but instead they assess it at TWICE the value and mark on the import form "cell phone".

[sarah11918]

What would you get back in a refund, about $50? Up to you whether you feel that's worth the time/effort of a refund.

If it were me, I'd probably chalk it up to the cost of doing business in Canada, and be way too excited that I actually had the thing in my hot little hands to be bothered for very long. But, that's just me.

As others have said, if you'd bought it locally, it would have been expensive too. So, you probably would have got hit with a whopping bill either way you tried to order it.

I hope you're enjoying it enough that you'll soon forget the pain of purchasing it!

[TenSpeed]

I'm pretty sure the CBSA can charge you up to double the GST/PST on the device's book value when they think there's a fraudulent value being given (such as "gift $0"). And book value is probably still $400, so you probably don't have grounds to appeal (assuming you want to win).

Hey Nokia, here's a thought - why not sell it in Canada? 32 million tech-savvy, relatively affluent people. That's more than the Nordic countries combined.

Imagine if the Finns had to order their Nokia stuff from neighboring Russia. Things would change.

[EIPI]

Hold on to your mosquitos! There are two tablet users in Manitoba!? :) (Jokes). I think Nokia.ca has it now for $485 (+shipiing?), but probably did not have it listed at the time that morrison ordered theirs.

If you can make it to a border town, and can live with yourself for supporting the devil, the best deal seems to be at Walmart (USA) (http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14805)with in-store pickup. No UPS Store holding charges, or postage/duty. If you don't need the keyboard, the N800 at Buy.com Canada (http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14755) is a great deal!

morrison: I would at least ask, $50 bucks could be used to buy a memory card or something. But as sarah11918 pointed out, enjoy the tablet now that you have it!

[sarah11918]

Hold on to your mosquitos! There are two tablet users in Manitoba!? :) (Jokes).

It's the quiet provinces you have to watch out for! ;)

Just posting that I noticed an N810 selling on ebay.ca from a guy in Mississauga (looks like he won it and doesn't want it). It's up to 12 bids and $412, but it's local, and he's willing to let you pick up if you don't want to incur any shipping charges:

eBay Link (http://cgi.ebay.ca/Brand-new-Nokia-N810-Internet-Tablet-Canadian-Version_W0QQitemZ300188424808QQihZ020QQcategoryZ39 980QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD4VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p 1638.m124)

[EIPI]

It's the quiet provinces you have to watch out for! ;)

Just posting that I noticed an N810 selling on ebay.ca from a guy in Mississauga (looks like he won it and doesn't want it). It's up to 12 bids and $412, but it's local, and he's willing to let you pick up if you don't want to incur any shipping charges:

eBay Link (http://cgi.ebay.ca/Brand-new-Nokia-N810-Internet-Tablet-Canadian-Version_W0QQitemZ300188424808QQihZ020QQcategoryZ39 980QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD4VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p 1638.m124)

I'm actually a displaced westerner myself. If I was in the market for the n810, this ebay listing would be perfect. I'm about 15 minutes drive from there.

[newf]

don't have time to read entire thread. dell.ca, 479 this week

[osne]

I may be heading down to Buffalo this weekend, or next. Would anyone be interested if I pick up a couple extra? I would probably be looking for $500 (cdn). I need to rent a car, gas, etc .... I'm located in Toronto, and won't mind local pickup. Prefer not to do shipping. Seems fair?

I'll see how much I should get depending on interest here, if any.

[newbury]

Nokia.ca has been selling the N810 since mid-December at $485 Cdn. As of January 18, 2008, the discount code feature has been enabled. I was listed as US discount, but the Canadian site took it without a problem. The discount was $335.00. With a car power adapter ($30) the total with GST and Ontario PST was $211.

[ackbar]

that was the dev discount and not the promo discount right?