2.2007.50-2 firmware bugs and issues

[Mara]

Just wanted to open a thread for bugs and issues that are found in first official OS2008 image. Here is my list so far:

- X-term: Word autocomplete is not working
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2505

- Finger detection (thumb keyboard) does not seem to work.

[N770-Freak]

Browser-Favourites:
- Saved favourites (in subfolders) still have wrong icons

[Khertan]

- X-term: Word autocomplete is not working
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2505


A great thing !!!! So now it doesn't register nor display password !!!

[akd]

The way to arrange/move elements in desktop still stinks...

[rik]

The way to arrange/move elements in desktop still stinks...

indeed, there should be some '[x] lock desktop applets' option to prevent from accident moving

[ScottRD]

Has anyone figured out how to get Caps Lock on the thumb keyboard? The former key seems to be replaced with a key that changes languages instead, even if only one language is being used. Is this a genuine bug or am I just performing a stupid user trick?

[Mara]

A great thing !!!! So now it doesn't register nor display password !!!

I thought there is an option in the keyboard settings to turn this feature on and off? (Didn't you find this before?) With this version of OS2008, regardless of this setting, there is no autocomplete in X-term...

The autocomplete does work on other apps, such as mail, notes, etc...

[Crussader]

Has anyone figured out how to get Caps Lock on the thumb keyboard? The former key seems to be replaced with a key that changes languages instead, even if only one language is being used. Is this a genuine bug or am I just performing a stupid user trick?

you need to press and hold the shift key for 2 seconds... that way you get Caps Lock.

[phi]

- Finger detection (thumb keyboard) does not seem to work.

This doesn't seem to be working anywhere. I have to tap the middle of the dpad to activate it.

[Texrat]

indeed, there should be some '[x] lock desktop applets' option to prevent from accident moving

That was the previous mode. Maybe too many people complained about it?

[amigokin]

This doesn't seem to be working anywhere. I have to tap the middle of the dpad to activate it.

Yep, I can confirm that. That's a major bug that wasn't present in the last beta. I don't understand how they release a "final" version adding this annoying bug.

[Texrat]

you need to press and hold the shift key for 2 seconds... that way you get Caps Lock.

many thanks! Finally someone answers that question (I've asked it before with no luck)

I really cannot understand that change.

[Traecer]

That was the previous mode. Maybe too many people complained about it?

Yeah, I know many complained, but I rather liked it, because it did indeed prevent me from fat-fingering and accidentally moving stuff where I didn't want it.

[luca]

I thought there is an option in the keyboard settings to turn this feature on and off? (Didn't you find this before?) With this version of OS2008, regardless of this setting, there is no autocomplete in X-term...

The autocomplete does work on other apps, such as mail, notes, etc...

Does that mean that now I can leave autocomplete active in applications where it is useful and not worrying of having my passwords cached in cleartext when I use xterm?
Up until now I had to leave autocomplete disabled because of this, so it seems like a feature to me, not a bug.

[akd]

That was the previous mode. Maybe too many people complained about it?

Anyway, the present mode is..terrible! Is so bad (IMO) I miss the OS2007 mode..

[sondjata]

Any issues with the GPE suite? I use timesheet, calendar and to dos heavily.

[rcadden]

It occurred to me that perhaps this new method of getting the fingerboard is a feature. Whereas in OS2007, it was nearly a guess as to which keyboard you would get when you touched a text box. Now, for me at least, it's consistently touch for a stylus board and d-pad for the fingerboard.

Obviously this helps new users to know how to get the desired result, but it seems logically, it should be the opposite. I should touch to get touch, and use hardware to use more hardware.

[cybergypsy]

......and *still* no Google IMAPS support.

[Reggie]

can anyone check if the email app is still the original or already Modest?

[N770-Freak]

can anyone check if the email app is still the original or already Modest?

it's not modest!

[loaderr]

application manager sucks, takes a long time to update the application list and a longer time to install apps of just about 12KB. If i refresh the list it gets stuck at the end and sits there for a long time.

[N770-Freak]

application manager sucks, takes a long time to update the application list and a longer time to install apps of just about 12KB. If i refresh the list it gets stuck at the end and sits there for a long time.
sound more like a bandwidth problem of the repository server you are connecting to. That has nothing to do with the application manager itself.

There are too many people updating at the moment... be patient ;)

[Moonshine]

application manager sucks, takes a long time to update the application list and a longer time to install apps of just about 12KB. If i refresh the list it gets stuck at the end and sits there for a long time.

I would imagine their servers being HAMMERED this morning has a pretty big effect on App Manager with the official repositories.

[mooler]

finger tap works for me...takes a couple taps but it does work

[GeneralAntilles]

......and *still* no Google IMAPS support.

It's called Modest (http://modest.garage.maemo.org/), and it's on it's way. . . .

[amigokin]

It occurred to me that perhaps this new method of getting the fingerboard is a feature. Whereas in OS2007, it was nearly a guess as to which keyboard you would get when you touched a text box. Now, for me at least, it's consistently touch for a stylus board and d-pad for the fingerboard.

Obviously this helps new users to know how to get the desired result, but it seems logically, it should be the opposite. I should touch to get touch, and use hardware to use more hardware.

In OS2007 you could just disable the feature under Text Input in control Panel if you didn't like it. And, by the way, it worked very well detecting my finger in the previous OS version.

[zerojay]

I would imagine their servers being HAMMERED this morning has a pretty big effect on App Manager with the official repositories.

Well, first you have to consider everyone hammering for the update. Then you have to consider everyone that updated hammering for the repositories and package downloads... so yeah. :)

[Jussi_K]

There's still some problems with memorycard... I can't make virtual memory....

[Mara]

There's still some problems with memorycard... I can't make virtual memory....

Sounds like the file system on the memory card has errors... I recommend running checkdisk (if connected to a Windows PC via USB cable), or dosfsck (as root) on it to see if that solves the problem.

[akd]

Have anyone found a "technique" to drag/move desktop applets no opening them over and over?..

[PinCushionQueen]

Have anyone found a "technique" to drag/move desktop applets no opening them over and over?..

I had lots of problems with the applets opening every time I tried to move them too until I figured out that you need to move quickly kinda like a smooth swiping motion. Don't hold the stylus on the applet at all - instead treat it like a brush stroke where you set your stylus down and begin moving all at the same time.

Hope that makes sense... it's kinda hard to explain :o

[Texrat]

Anyway, the present mode is..terrible! Is so bad (IMO) I miss the OS2007 mode..

Maybe it should have been (brace yourselves!!!) an option. ;)

[akd]

Maybe it should have been (brace yourselves!!!) an option. ;)

sounds wise my friend...

[akd]

I had lots of problems with the applets opening every time I tried to move them too until I figured out that you need to move quickly kinda like a smooth swiping motion. Don't hold the stylus on the applet at all - instead treat it like a brush stroke where you set your stylus down and begin moving all at the same time.

Hope that makes sense... it's kinda hard to explain :o
Don't worry...I got the idea. The problem is the kind of movement you are talking about is kinda "feminine" :D ...

[zerojay]

Don't worry...I got the idea. The problem is the kind of movement you are talking about is kinda "feminine" :D ...

Women around these parts? NEVAR! ;)

[akd]

Women around these parts? NEVAR! ;)

Jay, open up your mind...p.e. my wife uses my N800 as a makeup mirror when turned off. :D

[purplehooker]

Women around these parts? NEVAR! ;)

I didn't realize women weren't allowed around here. Sorry, I'l leave. But I need to somehow get my N810 updated first. Looks like you're stuck with me for at least a few more days. LOL

[zerojay]

I'm obviously just kidding. I'm just so used to everyone here being a gadget-addicted dude, so much so that many of them blend together.

[traveller604]

1. Where's the bloody fm-tuner app for N800? How the hell does it not come with the official image?


2. I've experienced my first totally random browser crashes. What the hell? Didn't have anything like this with the N810 firmware. Totally not cool :mad:


3. Why is it that there's a N810 video bundled with N800 firmware? :confused:


4. Otherwise it does seem pretty snappy..

[Moonshine]

1. Where's the bloody fm-tuner app for N800? How the hell does it not come with the official image?


2. I've experienced my first totally random browser crashes. What the hell? Didn't have anything like this with the N810 firmware. Totally not cool :mad:


3. Why is it that there's a N810 video bundled with N800 firmware? :confused:


4. Otherwise it does seem pretty snappy..


1.) Not exactly shocking given it was not included in any previous OS. "fmradio" is stil available at the Maemo Chinook repository.

2.) That's certainly not the norm. If you have "restored" previous MicroB settings you might want to delete them and start fresh. It's really quite stable IMO.

3.) It's the new product ?! They want people to buy it. :D

[YoDude]

Don't worry...I got the idea. The problem is the kind of movement you are talking about is kinda "feminine" :D ...

Only if you kick up your right heal and then end in a florish...

Just kidding :) It's good to see more "feminine" input.
And you're right PCQ, it is an acquired skill.

I was using VNC to move things around (it's more manly :p ).
However, after the upgrade I reinstalled it and I can no longer click on any "home" widgets like "Simple Launcher" in VNC :(

Oh well, back to brush strokes.

[nubiatech]

Would a kind soul please upload/seed a torrent of this!? At the moment the download link is down. Thanks.
Edit: OT

[sondjata]

Python wont install? Timesheet wont launch!! No Caps lock. If this keeps up I'll be downgrading!

[Moonshine]

Would a kind soul please upload/seed a torrent of this!? At the moment the download link is down. Thanks.

Someone already did this morning...

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1051742

[nubiatech]

Someone already did this morning...

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1051742

Thanks!
Man, this forum is cooking! I thought this was released a few hours ago, but now I found the announcement thread and it is up to 11 pages already. Wow!

[akd]

Only if you kick up your right heal and then end in a florish...

Just kidding :) It's good to see more "feminine" input.
And you're right PCQ, it is an acquired skill.

I was using VNC to move things around (it's more manly :p ).
However, after the upgrade I reinstalled it and I can no longer click on any "home" widgets like "Simple Launcher" in VNC :(

Oh well, back to brush strokes.

What bother me the most is'nt the feminine movement, is to walking on my brand new high heel shoes..:mad:

[loaderr]

Python wont install? Timesheet wont launch!! No Caps lock. If this keeps up I'll be downgrading!

caps lock works by holding the stylus on the shift button for like 2 seconds. and as for the other apps not installing all the servers are being hammer! give it a few days! I`m lucky i got everything up and running already!

[sondjata]

Click and hold for Caps lock? Not cute. Just slowed down the usage of the onscreen KB.

[sondjata]

They should have put that language indicator/switcher into the KB popup menu as if one changes languages more often than using multiple caps. C'mon people.

[tosser]

Does Skype work on this release? Sorry if this was brought up and answered already. Browsing on my Treo with EVDO discourages me to use the search feature.

[Milhouse]

Click and hold for Caps lock? Not cute. Just slowed down the usage of the onscreen KB.

The upward sliding stroke is working much better in this release (on N800) - this stroke capitalises (or shifts) whatever tile is beneath the stylus... this has been badly broken for the last two or three firmware releases (since the touchscreen sensitivity was increased).

Not as handy as a permanent CAPS LOCK key but it might prove useful. I can't say I need or use a CAPS LOCK key that often which is possibly why it's been relegated to where it is now. I'm sure I'll miss it at some point though! :)

[Milhouse]

Does Skype work on this release? Sorry if this was brought up and answered already. Browsing on my Treo with EVDO discourages me to use the search feature.

Yes. And with a Bluetooth headset too - confirmed with a Motorola headset, and "two very long Skype phone calls without any problems".

Downloading from the repositories is a bit of a nightmare right now - the servers are either still getting slammed or have totally shut down. :(

[Alvin]

I have an N800
With the OS2008 beta I was able to view the following mp4 files in Media player

But with this final version I am NOT :-(

Anyone else?

I have the following in my RSS reader (Used to be in Video center)
PodshowTV for Nokia
http://www.podshow.com/collection/79056.xml

but the mp4 files it contains says "File format not supported" when I open it in Media player.

[zman]

with os2008, my igo stowaway bluetooth keyboard can on longer pair with n800. it worked under os2007. I followed the pairing steps for os2007. did i do anything wrong?

[GeneralAntilles]

with os2008, my igo stowaway bluetooth keyboard can on longer pair with n800. it worked under os2007. I followed the pairing steps for os2007. did i do anything wrong?

Did you check the Bluetooth Keyboard option under Control Panels?

[zman]

yes, i selected "generic 105-key pc".

[markitos]

Tell me guys, is there A2DP support in this official release? I´ve been waiting for it like a grazy to get my bh-604 headphones to work properly.:confused:

[Moonshine]

with os2008, my igo stowaway bluetooth keyboard can on longer pair with n800. it worked under os2007. I followed the pairing steps for os2007. did i do anything wrong?

I paired mine again today with the new OS. I'd give it another try. Make sure the keyboard is in visible mode, make sure you're typing number for the code via the Fn key, and don't forget the "enter" at the end.

[zman]

n800 could see the Bluetooth keyboard, but failed at pairing. I did use the Fn key and hit "enter".

[mobiledivide]

n800 could see the Bluetooth keyboard, but failed at pairing. I did use the Fn key and hit "enter".

zman I had an issue with this and was pulling my hair out when I upgraded to the beta 2008. I could connect everything including headsets etc... I never did find out what was wrong but it did eventually connect after about 15 attempts?! Try a reboot of the device I know that was part of what I did.

[kgingeri]

- Finger detection (thumb keyboard) does not seem to work.

Mara - works fine for me. Did you set it up via the "tools" menu - found in lower right of writing area?

On another note. They did fix the hand writing in xterm :)

An annoyance is still if using the soft kybd (not a Bluetooth one) and you tap the Ctrl button, the keyboard retracks so it takes another tap to get it back again to put the letter for Ctrl you want in.

[traveller604]

I'm getting MD5Sum mismatch from

catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com/certified/dists/chinook/user/binary-armel/Packages.gz


Also in update there are 2 packages but I cannot update them. The other is called libglade 2-0 and the other operating system :confused:

[sorrender]

The disappearing SD card (and associated corruption) problem that was solved in the latest os2007 firmware has returned. At the moment only dissappearing cards and hard reset of the unit (removing battery) but I don't want to try until I see a corrupted card.

So, back to os2007 until a Nokia solution.:mad:

[anidel]

FOUND IT!!

About the thumb activating the full screen keyboard!

You have to double-tap with your finger!

That's why to someone it was working with two fingers! it was actually registering a double-tap.

Damn them, why did they not put it into the help file at least ?
I flashed my tablet twice until I discovered it...
I've noticed that there was no "pressure" setting near the "activate by finger tap", so.. a ring rang ( :p ) in my mind...

[Reggie]

The disappearing SD card (and associated corruption) problem that was solved in the latest os2007 firmware has returned. At the moment only dissappearing cards and hard reset of the unit (removing battery) but I don't want to try until I see a corrupted card.

So, back to os2007 until a Nokia solution.:mad:

Can anyone else confirm this?

[Mara]

Mara - works fine for me. Did you set it up via the "tools" menu - found in lower right of writing area?

On another note. They did fix the hand writing in xterm :)

An annoyance is still if using the soft kybd (not a Bluetooth one) and you tap the Ctrl button, the keyboard retracks so it takes another tap to get it back again to put the letter for Ctrl you want in.

I did see the tools menu. I did try changing things there to see if it helps... no luck. If I assign the D-pad center key to open thumb board, I can get the thumb board up.

In the original post I meant that automatic selection of thumb board when screen was pressed with a finger does not work. Even the suggested "multi-touch" (two thumbs at the same time) does not bring up the thumb keyboard. Every time only the stylus keyboard shows up.

[Mara]

FOUND IT!!

About the thumb activating the full screen keyboard!

You have to double-tap with your finger!

That's why to someone it was working with two fingers! it was actually registering a double-tap.

Damn them, why did they not put it into the help file at least ?
I flashed my tablet twice until I discovered it...
I've noticed that there was no "pressure" setting near the "activate by finger tap", so.. a ring rang ( :p ) in my mind...

Anidel, thanks for the hint. I have to try it once I get my N800 in my hand...

[anidel]

Mara did you read my last post ?

http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=111164&postcount=64

Double-tap with the finger is the solution.

EDIT: posting at the same time :) Go try it. It always works.

[Mara]

Can anyone else confirm this?

I think there was a change in the way how OS2008 handles memory cards, especially when initially mounted. It does run some quick disk check, and if errors are found it doesn't mount them or mounts it as read only.

(At one time on earlier OS2008 test images this check was so picky that none of my 4GB or 8GB SDHC cards never mounted... while they worked fine on PC with external card reader.)

[anidel]

One thought about disappearing cards.
I've noticed that, after a firmware flash, it does not tell the user to disconnect the tablet from the computer.
Leaving the USB cable connected will umount the cards in order, for them, to be mounted on the PC.
They should tell people to remove it before restarting the tablet after a successful flash.

May be people disconnect the cable when it's starting the mount process on the PC ?

[omegaone37]

OK!... Yesterday I got the Official Released of 2008 installed on my N800... got all the repositories loaded... got most of my previous programs reinstalled and everything pretty much running great. Connection to my home wifi has never been a problem and with the new OS seemed to be even faster than with 2007 or the 2008 beta. After installing the new OS yesterday I probably logged onto and off of the network a half of dozen times with no problems.

This morning however, I am getting "Network errors" every time I try to connect. I have shut the tablet off... removed the battery... even disabled some home applets (simple launcher and om weather) and still no luck in connecting to the network.

Something else I just noticed is when I boot the tablet up, once it gets to the home screen and it starts to look for a wifi connection, the wifi icon flashes normally for a bit then stops without giving any errors or dialog. When I try to connect manually it then gives the Network Error message.

Anyone else experiencing this?

Regards...

Omega

[anidel]

Did you try shutting off the router instead ?
May be is where the problem lies...

[omegaone37]

Thanks anidel... and yes, I rebooted the router, but after another reboot and leaving the router off for a few minutes, all is well!

What was you said you wanted for Christmas?

Regards,

Omega

[anidel]

ehehe just an activated and working discount code... :)
could you please forward this request to Santa Claus and his Maemo staff ? :D

[sorrender]

One thought about disappearing cards.
I've noticed that, after a firmware flash, it does not tell the user to disconnect the tablet from the computer.
Leaving the USB cable connected will umount the cards in order, for them, to be mounted on the PC.
They should tell people to remove it before restarting the tablet after a successful flash.

May be people disconnect the cable when it's starting the mount process on the PC ?

But that's not the case, because I did it correctly. After the first reboot, everything worked fine. I also downloaded 196 MB of maps with no problem. But this morning, after trying to use the maps app, I noticed it didn't launched properly because of the corruption problem I stated. Opening the file manager and the memory was disappeared. After removing battery, everything seems ok now, but then, reading a PDF document... and error in the PDF reader saying the PDF was corrupted. A visit to the file manager confirms that the cards where empty or corrupted.

Again, turn off the machine by removing battery (freezes with the nokia logo when trying to shut down properly), turn on and everything is okay again.

This behavior is THE SAME I had before a card corruption appeared in the first revisions of os2007.

Thanks for your support. I hope Nokia is working in a solution.

[anidel]

Which OS are you running on your desktop/laptop ?

I've heard Leopard is having issues about corrupting data on USB mass storage devices and, indeed, yesterday it was not able to copy off some pictures from my V640i SE phone in mass storage mode (the few that it was able to copy off from the phone were corrupted)

[omegaone37]

ehehe just an activated and working discount code... :)
could you please forward this request to Santa Claus and his Maemo staff ? :D

Just sent the email to Santa... also sent one to God asking him to bless you with a bazillion kids and the money to put them all through university!!! :p

Happy Holidays!

Omega :cool:

[dblank]

An annoyance is still if using the soft kybd (not a Bluetooth one) and you tap the Ctrl button, the keyboard retracks so it takes another tap to get it back again to put the letter for Ctrl you want in.

Blah, hate that :(

If there's only a few ctrl sequences you need, you could add shortcuts, I have them for ctrl-an and ctrl-ap (for screen)

Ex.
<ctrl>a,n

[hordeman]

I can't surf with my phone anymore (I have a 6680). No problems with OS2007, but with OS2008, I can pair the devices up, but as I watch the Connection Manager, data goes out, but nothing comes back. I've tried setting up via the automatic process (Phone option in control panel) as well as manually.

Any ideas?

[qole]

It occurred to me that perhaps this new method of getting the fingerboard is a feature. Whereas in OS2007, it was nearly a guess as to which keyboard you would get when you touched a text box. Now, for me at least, it's consistently touch for a stylus board and d-pad for the fingerboard.

Obviously this helps new users to know how to get the desired result, but it seems logically, it should be the opposite. I should touch to get touch, and use hardware to use more hardware.

Of course, this is a serious problem for those of us who use VNC Viewer and have to disable the thumb-keypad-on-dpad behavior. We can't use the thumb keyboard at all anymore.

Edit: I just bopped my finger on a text field and got the thumb keyboard. So I'm happy.

FOUND IT!!

About the thumb activating the full screen keyboard!

You have to double-tap with your finger!

That's why to someone it was working with two fingers! it was actually registering a double-tap.

Damn them, why did they not put it into the help file at least ?
I flashed my tablet twice until I discovered it...
I've noticed that there was no "pressure" setting near the "activate by finger tap", so.. a ring rang ( :p ) in my mind...

I seem to only need a single finger tap. I wonder how our settings differ? Maybe I should post a picture of my finger? There might be differences in bone structure or something...

[Texrat]

This is quite an army of bugfinders. :D An image doesn't have to be out long before Bugzilla starts choking!

Nice work guys and girls. This is the spirit of Linux.

[qole]

Blah, hate that :(

If there's only a few ctrl sequences you need, you could add shortcuts, I have them for ctrl-an and ctrl-ap (for screen)

Ex.
<ctrl>a,n

The terminal is lacking the all-important Ctrl-p shortcut to go back through history. And that new Ctrl behavior (text input box pops up, keyboard disappears) is barely usable.

I need a fix for this! How do I add shortcuts?

EDIT: Answered my own question.

X Term menu -> Tools -> Settings -> Toolbar shortcut -> New

Title: Up
Value: <ctrl>p

(new again)

Title: Dn
Value: <ctrl>n

[Mara]

FOUND IT!!

About the thumb activating the full screen keyboard!

You have to double-tap with your finger!

That's why to someone it was working with two fingers! it was actually registering a double-tap.

Damn them, why did they not put it into the help file at least ?
I flashed my tablet twice until I discovered it...
I've noticed that there was no "pressure" setting near the "activate by finger tap", so.. a ring rang ( :p ) in my mind...

Tried this and confirm this working!

I just have a feeling that this in NOT how it was intended to work... :rolleyes: Just a single tap with a finger should be enough.

Just for your record, that with this time I did NOT restore backup, so do not blame restoring backup being a reason for this behavior.

[zerojay]

The terminal is lacking the all-important Ctrl-p shortcut to go back through history. And that new Ctrl behavior (text input box pops up, keyboard disappears) is barely usable.

I need a fix for this! How do I add shortcuts?

EDIT: Answered my own question.
X Term menu -> Tools -> Settings -> Toolbar shortcut

Er.. any reason why the UP key doesn't work for you?

[qole]

Er.. any reason why the UP key doesn't work for you?

What UP key?

.... blink, blink ...

Ha, yes. I get so touch-screen centred, I forget about the hardware keys entirely.

Sigh. Thanks for the reminder.

[dionstarfire]

Looks like the softpoweroff bug from the Beta is not only there, it's gotten worse. Now when the machine is in softpoweroff mode, tapping on the screen produces a click AND turns the n800 back on!

So for now, I'm stuck with the "Lock Screen and Keys" mode. Unfortunately, when I'm in Lock Screen and Keys mode, it seems breathing on the machine wrong wakes it up. Shouldn't there be a timer to say user hit the power key (or unplugged the headphones, or whatever other triggers there are), but didn't press the center button in 5 seconds, so turn back off?

[sorrender]

Which OS are you running on your desktop/laptop ?

I've heard Leopard is having issues about corrupting data on USB mass storage devices and, indeed, yesterday it was not able to copy off some pictures from my V640i SE phone in mass storage mode (the few that it was able to copy off from the phone were corrupted)

A lot of OSes, but the upgrade was made in Windows XP SP2, and my macs are still waiting for leopard 10.5.2 (I hope apple solves all the kirks of the 10.5 and 10.5.1 releases). I also heard (and experienced) some nasty bugs, like mail crashes, vents on all the time (in a macbook), etc.

[ascherjim]

Can anyone tell me how to disable the automatic wi-fi connectivity, or have the applets settings not disappear after each reboot?

[wazd]

Am I the only, who faces incorrect touchscreen tap place detection? Sometimes it misses totally O_o Like im pressing «B» on thumb keyboard and it indicates that «t» is pressed *_* . Calibrating do nothing. Very strange...

[amigokin]

This is quite an army of bugfinders. :D An image doesn't have to be out long before Bugzilla starts choking!

Nice work guys and girls. This is the spirit of Linux.

This is way they have to release the beta version to the public ;)

[ArgentSilver]

Can anyone tell me how to disable the automatic wi-fi connectivity
Settings>Control Panel>Connectivity

or have the applets settings not disappear after each reboot?
This doesn't happen on mine...

[mikemx]

I can't surf with my phone anymore (I have a 6680). No problems with OS2007, but with OS2008, I can pair the devices up, but as I watch the Connection Manager, data goes out, but nothing comes back. I've tried setting up via the automatic process (Phone option in control panel) as well as manually.

Any ideas?

Happened to me as well with my 6680 with the beta version.
I can't recall what fixed it. Either accessing the phone through
the file manager or rebooting both devices.

[Fadsjeik]

Hey, I can't seem to get my bluetooth headset to work now. It used to work (well sort of, sound was pretty choppy) with the beta, but it doesn't anymore. I can pair it, and the N800 recognizes that it supports HFP and HSP, but it just continues to play all sounds through the speakers and not through the headset. Is it just my stupidity? I can't remember having to do anything special to get the sounds to the headset in the beta. Any help is greatly appreciated. I have a motorola HT820.

[technut]

I've noticed that, after a firmware flash, it does not tell the user to disconnect the tablet from the computer.The Windows flasher I used yesterday did have onscreen instructions to remove the USB cable. But I don't think it pauses at that point, I believe the tablet is already starting to reboot as you are reading the instruction.

[hordeman]

Happened to me as well with my 6680 with the beta version.
I can't recall what fixed it. Either accessing the phone through
the file manager or rebooting both devices.

Hey mikemx --- I REALLY appreciate you responding. This issue is driving me nuts because I can connect, but no information is sent back to the tablet. I've tried reboot, deleting/ adding profiles, and taking the batteries out. Tethering worked just fine on OS2007.

Have you upgraded to the latest OS2008, and does the tethering work for you still? The firmware on my 6680 is v5.04.07 15-02-06 RM-36

THANKS!!!

[mikemx]

Have you upgraded to the latest OS2008, and does the tethering work for you still? The firmware on my 6680 is v5.04.07 15-02-06 RM-36

THANKS!!!

I have the same FW on the 6680 (v5.04.07). I initially encountered the
problem with the OS2008 "beta version" on the N810 but don't recall what
specifically fixed it. I've updated to the newest OS2008 version and it still
works fine (just tested).

Can you access the 6680 content with the file manager?

[ascherjim]

Settings>Control Panel>Connectivity


I tried that control site many times, but still fail to see the means to execute a disabling of automatic wi-fi connectivity. What am I missing?

[hordeman]

I have the same FW on the 6680 (v5.04.07). I initially encountered the
problem with the OS2008 "beta version" on the N810 but don't recall what
specifically fixed it. I've updated to the newest OS2008 version and it still
works fine (just tested).

Can you access the 6680 content with the file manager?

Yeah, I can send files back and forth via the file manager, bluetooth direct, but I can't connect to the net. I have t-zones and am using a proxy server (216.155.165.050 and port 8080). Seems like the proxy server settings aren't carrying over. What are your settings like?

Thanks!

[anidel]

Tried this and confirm this working!

I just have a feeling that this in NOT how it was intended to work... :rolleyes: Just a single tap with a finger should be enough.

Just for your record, that with this time I did NOT restore backup, so do not blame restoring backup being a reason for this behavior.

Double-tapping doesn't always work tho...
And here : http://maemointeraction.wordpress.com/2007/12/19/improving-text-input-n810-with-its-hardware-keyboard/#comment-330
the maemo UI team says that this was not the way it should work.

[anidel]

Looks like the softpoweroff bug from the Beta is not only there, it's gotten worse. Now when the machine is in softpoweroff mode, tapping on the screen produces a click AND turns the n800 back on!

So for now, I'm stuck with the "Lock Screen and Keys" mode. Unfortunately, when I'm in Lock Screen and Keys mode, it seems breathing on the machine wrong wakes it up. Shouldn't there be a timer to say user hit the power key (or unplugged the headphones, or whatever other triggers there are), but didn't press the center button in 5 seconds, so turn back off?

After reading your post, I've got my N800 (that has Locked screen and keys) and it won't react to anything that is not the power button.

What's "softpoweroff" ?

[anidel]

Of course, this is a serious problem for those of us who use VNC Viewer and have to disable the thumb-keypad-on-dpad behavior. We can't use the thumb keyboard at all anymore.

Edit: I just bopped my finger on a text field and got the thumb keyboard. So I'm happy.



I seem to only need a single finger tap. I wonder how our settings differ? Maybe I should post a picture of my finger? There might be differences in bone structure or something...

On my tablet with a fresh and clean installation of OS2008 Final, the thumb keyboard does not pop out when I finger-tap a text box.
When I posted that comment the finger keyboard was popping out at every double-finger-tap (on Notes) and at many text boxes.
Now.. it does not work on almost any text boxes and sometimes on Notes. Actually if I triple-finger-tap fast the finger keyboard pops out for a fraction of a second and then disappears.

Moreover, when I use the finger keyboard in a chat with the built-in messenger, and I press the enter key, it behaves randomly: sometimes it sends the message straight to the peer, sometimes it leaves the text in the text box waiting for a tap on the green arrow (send).
In the Beta it used to also first send the text in the text box, then popped out the finger keyboad and when the enter key was pressed it was also sending the full text, like:

Hi how <finger keyboard on>
Hi how are you doing ?

Now it behaves almost similarly.
To make it short: finger keyboard is buggy.

[GeneralAntilles]

Looks like the softpoweroff bug from the Beta is not only there, it's gotten worse.


See bug #2400 (https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2400), apparently it's fixed, but who knows when we'll see it in a public release. Voting may or may not help.

Am I the only, who faces incorrect touchscreen tap place detection?

I was getting this a little bit last night with just the thumbboard. I was tempted to blame it on fat-fingeredness since I was tired, but maybe not. Best bet is to open a bug.

What's "softpoweroff" ?

Basically the next best thing to sliced bread and a good alternative to the 770's hardcover for the N800. It behaves basically the same as locking (also has some automated options for activating/deactivating offline mode), but is much easier to activate and deactivate. You can assign it to a longpress on the powerkey (the length of which can also be shortened), or to a double-press on the powerkey.

Much more convenient than that locking garbage. It's too bad they've broken it and wont fix it in a timely manner because it's not a supported feature. :(

[tosser]

anyone having an issue with the headphone jack not working? When my headphone is plugged in, all sounds (system, audio, video) still plays through the external speakers... Otherwise, OS2008 is awesome! Skype and Mplayer works already. Browser lags a bit compared to Opera, but it's not bad.

[tosser]

anyone having an issue with the headphone jack not working? When my headphone is plugged in, all sounds (system, audio, video) still plays through the external speakers... Otherwise, OS2008 is awesome! Skype and Mplayer works already. Browser lags a bit compared to Opera, but it's not bad.

Nevermind, taking the battery out and rebooting solved the issue.
Thanks,

[dblank]

I tried that control site many times, but still fail to see the means to execute a disabling of automatic wi-fi connectivity. What am I missing?

Set "Connect automatically" to "Always ask" or "Phone connection"

[noventa98]

Hi there,

got some problem too with the new OS version on my n810: everything went smoothly until it came to restore the applications. The Tablet makes several downloads just fine, then gets stuck in one (544kb) and can't go any further.

Anyone had the problem and solved it? Or maybe I shoud just re-install everything manually....

Thanks,
Antonio

[ascherjim]

Set "Connect automatically" to "Always ask" or "Phone connection"

Dblank: Thanks. That makes sense, though it had initially been a bit confusing for me -- who asks whom? Is it the N800 that's always asking me, or am I the one who must always ask? I trust the latter is the right answer. Thanks again.

[GeneralAntilles]

Anyone had the problem and solved it? Or maybe I shoud just re-install everything manually....


As has been stated before several times in this and other threads on the subject, the Nokia repositories are absolutely slammed, so it's unlikely that you'll be able to refresh them, let alond download application from them.

Give it a day or two and try again when things have calmed down.

[dblank]

who asks whom? Is it the N800 that's always asking me, or am I the one who must always ask?

The N800 will ask you, whenever an application requests a connection.

[hordeman]

Yeah, I can send files back and forth via the file manager, bluetooth direct, but I can't connect to the net. I have t-zones and am using a proxy server (216.155.165.050 and port 8080). Seems like the proxy server settings aren't carrying over. What are your settings like?

Thanks!

Well, I threw in the towel and just restored my settings from a previous backup --- which then caused the connection to work. The only difference I found was that the proxy is now 216.155.165.50 instead of 216.155.165.050 --- the funny thing is that the latter address is what the autoconfigure process used. So, who knows... I may eventually reflash to start from scratch and see if this was what caused the issue, but for now, I know it works.

H.

[ascherjim]

The N800 will ask you, whenever an application requests a connection.

How well mannered and considerate of it! Again, many thanks.

[gisborne]

application manager sucks, takes a long time to update the application list and a longer time to install apps of just about 12KB. If i refresh the list it gets stuck at the end and sits there for a long time.
And it crashes if you just look at it sideways.

[jmorenz]

Question about the repositories, I just flashed the OS for the latest and greatest and worked fine, however I can not retore the applications. the log in application manager has alot of errors saying can't stat source packages you may want to run apt-get update to correct the problem. Is this a problem with the repositories being busy or do I have a problem? I try to install appplications manually and it just hangs on the progress bar??

[GeneralAntilles]

Question about the repositories, I just flashed the OS for the latest and greatest and worked fine, however I can not retore the applications. the log in application manager has alot of errors saying can't stat source packages you may want to run apt-get update to correct the problem. Is this a problem with the repositories being busy or do I have a problem? I try to install appplications manually and it just hangs on the progress bar??

As has been stated in this and other threads dozens of time already: the Nokia repositories are slammed, give it a few days to cool down and try again. :)

[slip]

Couple of bugs found in the first 3 hours of using final OS2008 on N800:
-inability to invoke finger keyboard (as noting by Mara and others)
-up button on d-pad does not work when scrolling feeds in RSS reader (Filed at: https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2598)
-thumb keyboard cannot be invoked at all within Skype (even pressing center d-pad)
-moving/resizing desktop applets is frustratingly difficult, and they tend to move around when you put the tablet in your pocket. It would be nice to be able to lock them in place once you have set them exactly as wanted. (Many thanks to the poster who suggested quick movements--that helped, but it is still difficult to get them exactly where you want them)

I'll edit this post if I think of more...

EDIT: I just want to say that, for all the bugs we are reporting, OS2008 is really excellent. It is very attractive, very fast, and so far, pretty stable. Thanks to the Maemo team for all their hard work.

[flamenmars]

The brightness adjustment is still very limited making it difficult to read in the dark at such a high intensity, even at the lowest setting.

[delaroca]

Just wanted to open a thread for bugs and issues that are found in first official OS2008 image. Here is my list so far:

- X-term: Word autocomplete is not working
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2505

- Finger detection (thumb keyboard) does not seem to work.

On a freshly installed N800, the App manager shows an update tp the map app (map 2.2.6.377-1). But when trying to apply the update it fails saying that "Software contains updates to paclkahes installed from a different source and is likely to harm the system. Contact software author."

-- Denis

[cyberboy]

The Application manager shut down automaticly sometimes.

[anidel]

There is a bugzilla bug on the finger keyboard issue: #2597

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2597

It's "shared" with another issue, but that has been solved.
Please comment and vote on it if you do have the same issue.

[atmasphere]

There is a bugzilla bug on the finger keyboard issue: #2597

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2597

It's "shared" with another issue, but that has been solved.
Please comment and vote on it if you do have the same issue.

The issue is restoring from a backup ... not sure which part is causing the problem, but it's likely in settings If I had to guess. I've been able to restore my bookmarks and application list without killing the input though I chose to restore after the initial setup and not right after flash.

I would suggest a clean flash if you are having this problem or others. Seems to resolve my stuff -- though now I am stuck like everyone else with limited access to the repositories which are either unavailable (404) or just brutally slow with the activity we are all bringing.

[anidel]

Your problem (the one you solved)) was related to the stylus keyboard not appearing, as far as I understood.

My problem, and other's, is that the thumb board is not appearing. And you were also filing this bug over there, weren't you ?

[qole]

Am I the only, who faces incorrect touchscreen tap place detection? Sometimes it misses totally O_o Like im pressing «B» on thumb keyboard and it indicates that «t» is pressed *_* . Calibrating do nothing. Very strange...

I noticed this problem too. The (stylus) keyboard will type characters all around the one I intended. Calibration doesn't help. I haven't noticed this on the thumb keyboard, but I don't use that as much as the stylus keyboard.

A related problem is that my stylus keyboard often doubles letters. The tap sensitivity seems all out of whack since my update. This causes the most problems when trying to enter a password, since I can't see doubled or mis-typed characters. The worst case was when I changed my root password and it must have done the same mis-type twice in a row, because I couldn't get back into root... Finally one time the keyboard misfired the same way again and I was able to get in and change the password to the proper one.

[namtastic]

I just can't believe it still can't handle ID3 tags properly, the most rudimentary feature of any PMP -- No sorting on track number (#1045), text parsing problems on track name (#2302, #1103), etc. etc.. It's like they don't even want it to be a media device.

OK, my venting is done now. Back to more (sigh) important bugs

[smman]

"The brightness adjustment is still very limited making it difficult to read in the dark at such a high intensity, even at the lowest setting."

it's problem for me, too.

[ghoonk]

On a freshly installed N800, the App manager shows an update tp the map app (map 2.2.6.377-1). But when trying to apply the update it fails saying that "Software contains updates to paclkahes installed from a different source and is likely to harm the system. Contact software author."

-- Denis

I'm getting the same thing with the bluez-utils update. Is this a repository problem or software?

[zeusenergy]

This doesn't seem to be working anywhere. I have to tap the middle of the dpad to activate it.
Thank you, so much. This bug has been irritating and now there is a work around (hey, I'm new over here.)

[zeusenergy]

I'm getting the same thing with the bluez-utils update. Is this a repository problem or software?

Yeah it's the repos. Remove the existing ones and go to gronmayer.com/it/ to get JUST the ones you need. There are links to show what is inside the repos to look for the particular app you need to install. The Map application, well, I just installed Meamo Mapper instead :0)

[Mara]

A new finding.... Anyone noticed that the window scrollbars down and right arrow buttons can get "stuck" if pressed with stylus and then slide the stulus to the white space below/right of the button?

I opened a new bug #2722 (https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2722) on it.

[Saturn]

A new finding.... Anyone noticed that the window scrollbars down and right arrow buttons can get "stuck" if pressed with stylus and then slide the stulus to the white space below/right of the button?

I opened a new bug #2722 (https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2722) on it.

Yes, this happens to me quite often. The same or similar happens also with the dpad buttons. Many times they behave as if they got stuck.

It seems there are a big number of 'clicks' that are getting registered. It is audible too if you haven't disabled the sounds..

Thanks for opening this bug.

[Saturn]

Since we are talking about bugs, I haven't seen/found anyone mentioning the following:

1. when opening the bookmarks from the web icon in the desktop (that show the exaggerated/thump-friendly mode) and choose a folder inside a folder, that is a third panel has opened which overlaps the first, you cannot use its scroll-down/up screen buttons. If you press them all the panels close.

You can recreate this by adding this structure in your bookmarks:
bookmarks
|_ folder1
|_ folder2
|_ bookmark1
bookmark2
bookmark3
bookmark4
bookmark5
bookmark6

and attempting to choose 'bookmark6'. MissionImpossible.

2. In the RSS feed reader app the scroll up function using the dpad isn't working but only jumping from link to link if pressed consecutively. The scroll down works in both ways though.

3. The file manager shows the bluetooth shares also when the bluetooth is switched off from its menu. It only stops displaying them when the device is set to 'Offline mode'.

I would be interested to know whether those 'bugs' appear only on my device..

Thx.

[chrisak]

Yes, I have tthe same problem with nested bookmarks... its not just your install :) I've had to use the Bookmarks application to gett at those links.

Another, at least ffor me, is highlighting/re-typing text. In certain cases, I believe always in form fields, if I mistype and then highlight the text, I have to hit backspace to erase. I simply cannot type ovver the selected text.

And my keyboard sometimes sticks :)

added: Same here with bluetooth, but mine alwas did that (2007)... clickingmon my n80 phone n file manager/bluuetooth would auto turn on bluetooth; thought ttat was cool. Not surre if it still does.

I did notice that even thouggh BT is off via control panel, sometimes on boot I get a 'bluetooth is set on' msg, but no icon.

[Saturn]

Yes, I have tthe same problem with nested bookmarks... its not just your install :) I've had to use the Bookmarks application to gett at those links.

Thanks for confirming. I use the little globe in the bottom left of the microb.. It pops the bookmarks for use with stylus.

Another, at least ffor me, is highlighting/re-typing text. In certain cases, I believe always in form fields, if I mistype and then highlight the text, I have to hit backspace to erase. I simply cannot type ovver the selected text.

Yes, that is also true. In addition it works better if you highlight the text from left to right or top to bottom if many lines.

And my keyboard sometimes sticks :)

can't comment, I've got the N800!

added: Same here with bluetooth, but mine alwas did that (2007)... clickingmon my n80 phone n file manager/bluuetooth would auto turn on bluetooth; thought ttat was cool. Not surre if it still does.

It doesn't do this on the NIT. It pops a message though that it's unable to connect..

I did notice that even thouggh BT is off via control panel, sometimes on boot I get a 'bluetooth is set on' msg, but no icon.

I've seen that too a couple of times.

Now looking at your message I notice all the double letters. This is the worst bug with the touch screen. It's over-sensitive and it's really frustrating when typing passswoorddsss!!!

[chrisak]

Now looking at your message I notice all the double letters. This is the worst bug with the touch screen. It's over-sensitive and it's really frustrating when typing passswoorddsss!!!

Agreed, I've gotten into the habit of typing passwords into the address field to spell check and then cut/paste. I usually clean up my posts, but thought leaving the double-keys in that time would be fitting. <grin>

Despite a few oddities, the upgrade has been great, and looks great. Browser almost never crashes and big menus are perfect for a fat thumb-navigator like me, tho I know this feature is,unpopular with some.

[jmancine]

i would classifyy the double letter/keyboard bounce issue aas the highest priority for me personally. I find this thing unbearablee when typing emails, entering web urls, and especially paasswords. So i have decided to stop correctting thhe douuble lettters in my posts. What you see here is exactly whhat os2008 registered.

bassic input function is critical, and tthis os releasse just isn't cutting it. unfortunately, tthe common answer arround here is ffor the user to modify their stylus use tto accommoddate the device's shortcomings. I'm ready to go back to ANY other device/os just to be able to have the most basic freakin function of any computer - ttext entry.

[Texrat]

unfortunately, tthe common answer arround here is ffor the user to modify their stylus use tto accommoddate the device's shortcomings

Is that what's really being suggested? I thought people were recommending fine-tuning sensitivity settings to accommodate the differences between each user's style and speed...