NeoPop on the N800.

[Mattox]

Hey guys I found a video of NeoPop, a Neo Geo Pocket emulator running on the N800.

Anyway one know where a download may be?

Check it out here (http://www.n800blog.com/blog.aspx?id=91&story=NeoPop_on_the_N800?).

[unique311]

go with gngeo.
very happy with the speed you got it going at tak.
but seems like i cannot get roms to load from the xmaeme frontend.
I did manage to play mslug4 at great speeds. (ran it from the command line)

neopop is the emulator for the neogeo pocket.



Yeah, we were discussing that on #maemo. Is there a significant advantage to neopop over gngeo?

[unique311]

Yeah, we were discussing that on #maemo. Is there a significant advantage to neopop over gngeo?

~ $ xmaeme xmaeme[2299]: GLIB WARNING ** libglade - unknown widget class 'GtkFileChooserButton'
xmaeme[2299]: GLIB WARNING ** GLib-GObject - invalid cast from `GtkLabel' to `GtkFileChooser'
xmaeme[2299]: GLIB CRITICAL ** Gtk - gtk_file_chooser_set_current_folder: assertion `GTK_IS_FILE_CHOOSER (chooser)' failed
Error opening /media/mmc1/roms/mame/: No such file or directory
Error opening /media/mmc2/roms/mame/: No such file or directory
Error opening /media/mmc2/roms/: No such file or directory
Error opening /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/.games/: No such file or directory
Error opening /media/mmc1/roms/gba/: No such file or directory
Error opening /media/mmc2/roms/gba/: No such file or directory
Error opening /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/.games/: No such file or directory
Error opening /media/mmc2/roms/neogeo/: No such file or directory
Error opening /home/user/MyDocs/.documents/.games/: No such file or directory
xmaeme[2299]: GLIB DEBUG ConIc - con_ic_connection_send_event(0x99d90, 0dyssey, WLAN_INFRA, 0)
xmaeme[2299]: GLIB CRITICAL ** Gtk - gtk_tree_model_filter_row_has_child_toggled: assertion `elt->visible' failed
xmaeme[2299]: GLIB CRITICAL ** Gtk - gtk_tree_model_filter_row_has_child_toggled: assertion `elt->visible' failed
xmaeme[2299]: GLIB WARNING ** GLib-GObject - invalid cast from `GtkLabel' to `GtkFileChooser'
xmaeme[2299]: GLIB CRITICAL ** Gtk - gtk_file_chooser_get_filename: assertion `GTK_IS_FILE_CHOOSER (chooser)' failed
Child: running gngeo --sound --samplerate=11025 --fullscreen --scale=2 --biospath=(null) /media/mmc1/roms/neogeo/magdrop2.zip (null) (null) (null)
The following bios files are missing :

(null)/sp-s2.sp1
(null)/sfix.sfx
(null)/000-lo.lo

seems like xmeame doesn't know that the biospath for gngeo is on the mmc1 card. --biospath=(null)
guess its a xmaeme issue...

[ArnimS]

there's unique's n800 running gngeo

notice how the buttons don't appear right away... pretty strange.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI_iyExZ7As

[kingka]

hey, where can I get a copy of metalslug, samurai showdown or other neogeo games?

[kingka]

hi, where can I download some snk games?

[dafmalo]

anybody else get an "unable to install gngeo" from the application manager? dont have any listed probems...hmm

[kingka]

I have the same problem. trying to search for a fix. can anyone help out?

[matrix]

I have been getting the "unable to install gngeo" problem. It's on N800 with OS2007.

My failing install log is like this:
Installing gngeo 0.7maemo-1
(Reading database ... 16777 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking gngeo (from .../gngeo_0.7maemo-1_armel.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/gngeo_0.7maemo-1_armel.deb (--unpack):
error setting ownership of `./media/mmc1/roms/neogeo': Operation not permitted
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/gngeo_0.7maemo-1_armel.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

After I mannually created `./media/mmc1/roms/neogeo', it got installed.

[jackass124]

hi Matrix...yes, i followed your instructions of creating that directory and got it installed....GNGEo that is....now, how the heck can i load a rom??....I have a few game roms but each one has multiple files...is there a trick to loading them?...ie. a special folder??....XMAEME won't let me load any...is this a bug of XMAME??...and can they only be loaded with command-line??...if yes, what would be the method for that?


Thanx!---lookin forward to playin these games!!

[kingka]

how can I access these games from the command line? what is the command to run the games from xterm? when I try to run them I get this...

basicly it says these bios' are missing...

usr/share/gngeo/sp-s2.sp1
usr/share/gngeo/sfix.sfx
usr/share/gngeo/000-lo.lo

I dunno where to find them...

[dblank]

now, how the heck can i load a rom??....I have a few game roms but each one has multiple files...is there a trick to loading them?...ie. a special folder??....XMAEME won't let me load any...is this a bug of XMAME??...and can they only be loaded with command-line??...if yes, what would be the method for that?


Thanx!---lookin forward to playin these games!!

Zip the files, copy to your rom dir, and name the zip similar to the corresponding .rc file in /usr/share/gngeo/romrc.d/

Metal Slug 2 for example would need to be named mslug2.zip

Then run gngeo --optionsblahblah mslug2

[dblank]

basicly it says these bios' are missing...

usr/share/gngeo/sp-s2.sp1
usr/share/gngeo/sfix.sfx
usr/share/gngeo/000-lo.lo

I dunno where to find them...

You get them off your personal NeoGeo hardware of course! :)

or search around the web for neogeo bios.

[jackass124]

OK...so, say i have mslug5.zip .....i put it in my roms folder...there's a BIOS folder there....IN the bios folder, or not....
....and it will ONLY work from commandline??

not from XMAEME??

forgive my commandline stupidity....but what goes where the "blahblah" stuff is? :)
....i'm a simpleminded gamelover! :)

[jackass124]

ok...got my 1997 bios file in the bios folder..or should there be more than one??...helpppppp!
...i'm losin it..

[jackass124]

ok...hang on...so, i'm starting to think the BIOS files should be in the /usr/share/gngeo directory right??...cause i have a BIOS folder on my MMC2 inside roms/gngeo ....i think the same issue as Matrix above...so do they need to be there?...AND, do the zipped game roms then need to be somewhere else besides my MMC2??

[kingka]

i'm using emelfm2 and trying to copy the bios files over... but it says i donot have permission to do so.

"cannot create file usr/shared/......permission denied"

im able to login as root in xterm. but it doesnt change my access priveleges in that other file management app... feel like im so close.... any ideas?

[jackass124]

i'm at the same stage as you...tryin to get the bios files moved over..so, wish we could just cut and paste in file manager...we need root access though right?

[dblank]

OK...so, say i have mslug5.zip .....i put it in my roms folder...there's a BIOS folder there....IN the bios folder, or not....
....and it will ONLY work from commandline??

not from XMAEME??


Put appropriately named, zipped ROMs in your ROMs directory and BIOS files in your BIOS directory.

I don't know anything about XMAEME.


forgive my commandline stupidity....but what goes where the "blahblah" stuff is? :)
....i'm a simpleminded gamelover! :)

Whatever options you want, for a list type run gngeo with no arguments.
Here's an example command line:
gngeo --sound --rompath=/media/mmc2/gngeo/roms --biospath=/media/mmc2/gngeo/bios

[dblank]

i'm at the same stage as you...tryin to get the bios files moved over..so, wish we could just cut and paste in file manager...we need root access though right?

To move them to /usr/share/gngeo you need root, alternatively you could put the files wherever you want and specify their path as a gngeo option:
gngeo --biospath=/wherever/you/put/your/bios/files

[kingka]

since i DO have root access. (through sudo gainroot).. HOW do I then move the files over??? can you give me a step by step?

[kingka]

woh.. nevermind.. it kinda worked... but.. the graphics are kinda messed up.. like one of those puzzles where you move blocks around untill you see an image

[kingka]

I can play the games .. finaly.. thanks guys!!
now, how can I reconfig the controls.. :(

[ArnimS]

If you have trouble installing a program you need to specify some things to get help


the device you are using
the operating system version
the version of the package you are installing

[unique311]

to run games from xmaeme. I notice that only certain roms work.
I found this site with xmame roms for the neogeo, and all the roms I DL(around 30) work.

guess a quick how to is in order.

To install GnGeo
1. create a folder /media/mmc1/roms/neogeo
breaking it down, you will create the roms folder and then create the neogeo folder inside the roms folder also if you want create
a xmame, vba, and fceu folder inside the roms folder.

2. Inside App Manager install gngeo, and you should not get the unable to install error anymore.

3. Now find neogeo.zip or neo-geo.zip - google should give up much results with no problem.

4. After locating neo-geo.zip or neogeo.zip. extract the files inside the .zip to /media/mmc1/roms/neogeo/bios/
(/media/mmc1/roms/neogeo/bios/ should've been created when you installed gngeo. If it wasn't then create it.

5. Now going back to the top of this post. I located a website where all the roms I tried for the neogeo work.
I cannot post that link but if you would like the link, just send me a PM requesting it and i'll gladly send you a link.
some websites the roms don't seem to work.
There's a workaround for that, but I think its too much work for the average user. It requires editing files in /usr/share/gngeo/romrc/.



Pro's = speed on the emulator rocks.

Con's = The A,B,C,D on screen buttons don't show up on emulator start. I have to wait until the device go to sleep and then tap the screen in order for it to show the on screen buttons. Not sure why this is happening.

1 game out out of 30 I Had screen glitches, where gameplay wasn't possible.

Xmaeme frontend sucks.



With saying the frontend suck.
http://gngeo.berlios.de/?page=frontends
http://gngeofrontend.sourceforge.net/index.html
http://bbs.choplair.org/index.php
Going to try to get XGngeo to build.
My last attempt at doing so didn't go so well
because python2.5-pygame would not install
going to manually instal pygame and then try to build xgngeo.

PS. don't let that stop you from trying to build one of those frontends.

[dblank]

Con's = The A,B,C,D on screen buttons don't show up on emulator start. I have to wait until the device go to sleep and then tap the screen in order for it to show the on screen buttons. Not sure why this is happening.


As a temporary workaround until someone figures out the problem, we could just blank the screen before starting gngeo.

Maybe hack up a frontend so it sends a dbus message before launch.

[unique311]

Just got xgngeo frontend built.
Will make a deb package for it when I get a chance.
as with all the goodies i manage to locate and build.
someone needs to take a look at it and hildon the damn thing.
but xgngeo is the definitely a better frontend.

http://gngeo.berlios.de/?page=frontends

[kingka]

I'm looking for a way to map the controls to my hardware keys on my n810. u can't play a fighting game with virtual buttons. or even using the D-pad on the n810 is ridiculous. I want to somehow map the qwerty board to use for movement and ABCD buttons.. is this possible. you guys are doing an awesome job. wish I could contribute to this project somehow.

[jackass124]

ok....i tried specifying the path for BIOS and ROMS, and I get the listing of all the commands and stuff...as opposed to the "MISSING BIOS FILES" message....but how the heck do i execute the rom???...where does that command fit into the commandline commands for specifying bios and rom paths?
..I'm CLOOOOOSE...I can feel it! :)

...trying to run a superspy rom i have...hope that one works!

[kingka]

the game i'm playing is "wakuwak7"

and my bios files I dumped in this location: "/media/mmc1/play/neogeo/"
u can put them anywhere...

so the command is:

gngeo wakuwak7 --sound --biospath=/media/mmc1/play/neogeo/

[jackass124]

cool.....got gpilots and superspy workin!..havent gotten sound yet..running smooth...now we need the frontend working so as to specify options easier...
...actually GhostPilots is cooler for using the n800 controls than one of the fighting games....also, gotta somehow figure out how to incorporate Joystick usage in the frontend....easy for me to say! ha!...wish i was a programmer!! :(

[unique311]

use xmaeme as the frontend.
until i can do some work on xgngeo.
its compile, but needs hildonizing.
which i pretty much suck at.
if anyone wants to help me, more than welcome to offer help.

btw, xgngeo is written in python.

[kingka]

yes, what's most important is the ability to remap the keys (for n810 users that is). fighters require being able to quickly tap buttons. but you are unable to do that on an n8x0 touchscreen.

[jackass124]

ok..so got commandline working...BUT if i want the option to use XMaeme as the frontend, then I just need to create an Xmame folder inside my roms folder, and then put the ROM.zip and BIOS folder inside of that?

[dblank]

I'm looking for a way to map the controls to my hardware keys on my n810.

Edit the p1key keycodes at the bottom of /home/user/.gngeo/gngeorc

I'm sure there's a list somewhere as to what key sends what code, otherwise you could use a program like "xev" where you press a key, and note the code it sends.

[unique311]

no need to create an xmame folder
check my how to on page three of this thread.
xmaeme was updated with gngeo paths and such.


ok..so got commandline working...BUT if i want the option to use XMaeme as the frontend, then I just need to create an Xmame folder inside my roms folder, and then put the ROM.zip and BIOS folder inside of that?

[kingka]

ok..so got commandline working...BUT if i want the option to use XMaeme as the frontend, then I just need to create an Xmame folder inside my roms folder, and then put the ROM.zip and BIOS folder inside of that?

I dont think xmame actualy works.. for neogeo roms. which is why we're running gngeo from the commandline

[kingka]

"/home/user/.gngeo/gngeorc" doesnt exist for some reason.... infact there is no .gngeo directory in /home/user... iwish this wasnt so seemingly complicated.. :(

[unique311]

i run gngeo from xmaeme frontend,
I think you are confusing xmame and xmaeme
when you install the latest xmaeme and gngeo.
now when you run xmaeme you should see a NeoGeo tab.
xmame is what you use to run xmame roms.
xmaeme is the frontend for xmame, gngeo, fceu, and GBA.

the video i have on youtube shows me running gngeo from the frontend.





I dont think xmame actualy works.. for neogeo roms. which is why we're running gngeo from the commandline

[unique311]

Follow this post
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=118001&postcount=28

Then install xmaeme.
then run xmaeme.
hit the neogeo tab.
choose the rom
choose bios location,
which should be /media/mmc1/roms/neogeo/bios/
then click on execute.

gngeo should install via application manager if you create the folder
/media/roms/neogeo/





"/home/user/.gngeo/gngeorc" doesnt exist for some reason.... infact there is no .gngeo directory in /home/user... iwish this wasnt so seemingly complicated.. :(

[kingka]

i can choose the rom now problem, but i am unable to specify the bios location. is the xmaeme ver the on the official hp the same as the one on the maemo gaame link? vver 12.1... the preview image even loooks a littlendiff than one i have. under "browse for roms" it says "bios" but its not an active button...

[Melonhead]

I have the same problem as kingka. I have no idea how to specify the bios. I tried to use x terminal, but when I enter the command it just gives me a menu. This is exactly what I entered:

gngeo --biospath=/media/mmc1/roms/neogeo/bios

[kingka]

I have the same problem as kingka. I have no idea how to specify the bios. I tried to use x terminal, but when I enter the command it just gives me a menu. This is exactly what I entered:

gngeo --biospath=/media/mmc1/roms/neogeo/bios


I've already stated that I've gotten it up and running. you need to include the game name in the command line....


gngeo NAMEOFGAME --biospath=/media/mmc1/roms/neogeo/bios

eg.

gngeo wakuwak7 --biospath=/media/mmc1/roms/neogeo/bios


my main issue now is with the **** controls with the n810. the dpad is rubbish and onscreen buttons are ridiculous. for fighting games... I need to remap the controlls to use the HW keys.

[kingka]

Meh, I'll take a look once I get os2008 - I wonder if the GtkFileChooserButton is broken somehow. If you put your arcade bios in /media/mmc1/roms/neogeo/bios , it should work regardless.

what is "GtkFileChooserButton"?

[unique311]

Here's a quick vid of the frontend i'm working on.
I need help removing the tab containing File Configuration and Rom Drivers.
Reading the tutorial on maemo.org didn't help much with removing them and adding them to the hildon window.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN57-Vn0WpI

I will only pack it up, when i have it fully hildon.
Really with most of the stuff i manage to build, i only didn't release them because of the hildon curse. lol

[jgallen23]

do you have to unzip the rom? I keep getting unknown or unsupported romset

[unique311]

you have to find the right roms.

email me for a link with valid roms.

[penrose]

Could someone post a correct gngeorc? Mine is running
but no key works. It's always 'INSERT COIN'.

My gngeorc has something like this:

# 770 configuration:
p1: zoomout, zoomin, esc, menu, fullscreen, enter, up, down, left, right
p2: die.
#p1key 119,120,113,115,38,34,273,274,276,275,-1,-1,-1,-1
#p2key 108,109,111,112,233,39,264,261,260,262,-1,-1,-1,-1

Anything wrong?

[kingka]

hey tak, how can I access this config file :( I really would like to remap the keys for the n810 h/w kb. but i cant seem to find that file.

[kingka]

still cannot find this file.. infact it seems as though gngeo was installed in a weird place... usr/shared/gngeo

there is a gngeorc directory, but no files inside.... :(

[Egbyms]

Almost got it to work. Rom boots but the graphics are messed up (Text seems ok though). Do I have the wrong Bios? Can someone help me?

Thanks in advance.

[osmiley99]

where can i find the link, to download neopop for n800?