[KDE] KDE Settings Recommendations?

[penguinbait]

Hi guys!!!

This may not be the thread you were looking for, but maybe it will become one you can use. I imagine people are coming here looking for information about what I am recommending? I am actually looking for your recomendations for what you think the default settings in any particular area should be.


I am asking anyone who has made settings changes, like PCQ and the move window key. Or settings you changed to make things work better. Perhaps you have a font setting that looks good in microb and konqueror, even if you installed it after KDE.

I am interested!!

There will be some updates coming shortly, well, they will be coming after I actually get a n810. Which my friends, I am not sure when this will be?? But I would like to polish things up a bit and include your recommendations.

So Again, if you made a settings change and you believe it to be for the better, I want to hear from you!

I am sure a healthy debate will ensue shortly!


PS
PLEASE POST WHETHER USING N800 or N810, I am thinking default settings will differ between them in the future

[penguinbait]

Anyone? Anyone?

[PinCushionQueen]

Anyone? Anyone?

I'm at school right now - will post my N810 optimized settings later today :)

[PinCushionQueen]

The following is my list of settings that I use on my N810. I use KDE pretty much exclusively. I only go into Maemo anymore if I need to do a one click install of an app/update (ie: no deb available).

1) First I'll start with how to get around the fact that some of the windows are too big for the N810 screen. What I've done to make the windows that are too big accessible, is to go into Control Center -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard shortcuts -> here you can assign buttons to do various tasks while in KDE. For example on my N810 there is a "menu" button to bring down the menu in Maemo apps - that is pretty much worthless as is in KDE (KDE just recognizes it as F4) so I assigned it to "Move Window". Now whenever I want to easily see the bottom of window that are too long (mainly so I can tap OK/Apply/Cancel etc...) I just press that button and then use the stylus to move the window to wherever I want it.

2) any N810 owners should use Control Center -> Regional & Accessibility -> Accessibility -> Modifier Keys -> Check "Use Sticky Keys" and "Lock Sticky Keys". This will allow your Fn & Shift keys to work like they do in Maemo (ie: Tap Fn then tap the 2nd button instead of needing to tap both at the same time).

3) I've also mapped the "Home" button to "Minimize" and "Shift + F4 (menu button)" to "Close" and so on until all of my buttons were mapped to what I want. You can also do alternative assignments for each of the commands which is handy if you're using a BT keyboard so using the keyboard uses buttons/keys that are convenient to it and my BT keyboard has it's own set of shortcuts.
You can also make application specific keyboard shortcuts - for example when I'm in KOrganizer, Ctrl +N will bring up the New Event dialog. You get the idea...

4)You can add/remove applets from the system tray and panel. If you tap on the left side of section of the panel that holds the item you want to edit, you will see a little white criss-cross verticle line with a tiny arrow at the top. Tap on that arrow and menu will pop up that allows you to edit the panel. It can be tricky to tap the arrow, so be patient if it takes a few tries.

5)Because I use KDE all the time, I wanted as much memory and CPU available for it as I could get. So I turned off all applets, email etc in Maemo.

That's at least a start...I've gotta run but will add more later :D

[Greyghost]

Hi Penguinbait,

Indeed, I am thinking of this very issue as I have spent almost every minute with my tablet playing with KDE! I really really like it because it is so customizable, and I am just learning the environment, so I don't have a lot of specific recommendations till I work with it some more.

I do have a question that is at least related to settings, or my inability to figure out how to change them=). I have initially been playing with the desktop because it offer so much flexiblity, but I may have painted myself into a corner. Here's what happened: I was tinkering with the taskbar, using the 'add applet/application' feature, but in a wayward 'tap', I managed to 'lock' the taskbar in such a way that I cannot now add new applets.

Now, I did some searching this morning and found a similar situation in an ubuntu forum, but no solution was posted, alas.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376817

Lazy guy that I am, rather than join that forum and ask there, I thought I'd ask you first, or at least see if anyone else reading this thread knows what I am talking about. If you've been using it you might know that there is a little bar and arrow that is 'attached' to the applets in the taskbar, but after locking the taskbar, those control panels were 'conveniently' removed and I cannot figure out how to get them back.:(

EDIT: @ Pincushion, I see in your post that you know what I'm referring to here....any ideas?

Reading the documentation at the KDE site wasn't helpful, alas, especially because the link to the user guide returned a 404 this morning, but I did gather that the application that control this behavior might be called 'Kicker'. Unfortunately I was unable to find this app on my ITT install. I could be wrong about the Kicker thing...

Any suggestions will be appreciated, thanks!

[penguinbait]

Hi Penguinbait,

Indeed, I am thinking of this very issue as I have spent almost every minute with my tablet playing with KDE! I really really like it because it is so customizable, and I am just learning the environment, so I don't have a lot of specific recommendations till I work with it some more.

I do have a question that is at least related to settings, or my inability to figure out how to change them=). I have initially been playing with the desktop because it offer so much flexiblity, but I may have painted myself into a corner. Here's what happened: I was tinkering with the taskbar, using the 'add applet/application' feature, but in a wayward 'tap', I managed to 'lock' the taskbar in such a way that I cannot now add new applets.

Now, I did some searching this morning and found a similar situation in an ubuntu forum, but no solution was posted, alas.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=376817

Lazy guy that I am, rather than join that forum and ask there, I thought I'd ask you first, or at least see if anyone else reading this thread knows what I am talking about. If you've been using it you might know that there is a little bar and arrow that is 'attached' to the applets in the taskbar, but after locking the taskbar, those control panels were 'conveniently' removed and I cannot figure out how to get them back.:(

EDIT: @ Pincushion, I see in your post that you know what I'm referring to here....any ideas?

Reading the documentation at the KDE site wasn't helpful, alas, especially because the link to the user guide returned a 404 this morning, but I did gather that the application that control this behavior might be called 'Kicker'. Unfortunately I was unable to find this app on my ITT install. I could be wrong about the Kicker thing...

Any suggestions will be appreciated, thanks!


My suggestions is to use vnc, KDE comes with VNC server running by default. So once KDE is installed, you can vnc to your tablet. This will allow you to right click which is the easiest way I can think of to manipulate the taskbar.

Note that you can vnc to and from KDE and you and rdesktop to and from KDE.

[Greyghost]

My suggestions is to use vnc, KDE comes with VNC server running by default. So once KDE is installed, you can vnc to your tablet. This will allow you to right click which is the easiest way I can think of to manipulate the taskbar.

Note that you can vnc to and from KDE and you and rdesktop to and from KDE.

Thanks for the prompt reply. Do you mean that what's missing is my ability to 'right-click'? Using VNC would give me that ability, but isn't there a way to restore/unlock my taksbar with the ITT?

[penguinbait]

The following is my list of settings that I use on my N810. I use KDE pretty much exclusively. I only go into Maemo anymore if I need to do a one click install of an app/update (ie: no deb available).


Well it seems to me we can fix this. What about a link to hildon filemanager, then you can do one click install files.

[penguinbait]

Thanks for the prompt reply. Do you mean that what's missing is my ability to 'right-click'? Using VNC would give me that ability, but isn't there a way to restore/unlock my taksbar with the ITT?

OK, I see, I am not sure how you locked it in the first place, but there is a lock and an unlock, use vnc right click, easiest way to fix

might be a key combo predefined for lock/unlock?

[Greyghost]

OK, I see, I am not sure how you locked it in the first place, but there is a lock and an unlock, use vnc right click, easiest way to fix

might be a key combo predefined for lock/unlock?

O getting it locked? That was the easy part! The interface is very tiny, and I accidentally tapped 'lock'...bummer. Interestingly, I have, on the taskbar, a 'lock/unlock/logoff' applet, which does not allow me to 'unlock' it, alas.

And a key combo, now there's a good idea! Still, the trick is mapping it correctly. Ok I guess have some playing around to do. Thanks for your help.

[mardibloke]

Note that you can vnc to and from KDE and you and rdesktop to and from KDE.

Sorry for the tangent - do you remember what the password is for the vnc server? Trying to connect from ultravnc client I get authentication error. I believe I changed the passord ok in krfb on N800.

[penguinbait]

Sorry for the tangent - do you remember what the password is for the vnc server? Trying to connect from ultravnc client I get authentication error. I believe I changed the passord ok in krfb on N800.



sorry its rootme

Also you can change on command line via

vncpasswd

as user

[mardibloke]

thanks - worked just fine.

:)

[PinCushionQueen]

@Greyghost - I don't think you locked your system tray by pressing the "Lock" button, you locked your "Session". Have you tried logging out? Or perhaps rebooting? To the best of my knowledge you can't "lock" your system tray.

[penguinbait]

@Greyghost - I don't think you locked your system tray by pressing the "Lock" button, you locked your "Session". Have you tried logging out? Or perhaps rebooting? To the best of my knowledge you can't "lock" your system tray.

There is a lock on the taskbar. if you right click there is a lock, if you lock it, you right click again you can unlock it.

PCQ, did you know vnc server was running on your IT?

[Greyghost]

4)You can add/remove applets from the system tray and panel. If you tap on the left side of section of the panel that holds the item you want to edit, you will see a little white criss-cross verticle line with a tiny arrow at the top. Tap on that arrow and menu will pop up that allows you to edit the panel. It can be tricky to tap the arrow, so be patient if it takes a few tries.

Hey PinCushionQueen, I have a question for you. I managed to disable the feature you describe above from my taskbar somehow. I think I might have 'locked' the taskbar with a wayward tap, but honestly I am not sure anymore. What I do know is that the vertical line and arrow are no long present and I am unable to add applets or applications to the taskbar.

Do you know how to fix this? PB suggested it's a right-click on the taskbar which I can try with VNC, but honestly I haven't had the time to do that yet. I was hoping ther'd be an easier 'fix'. Any ideas? Thanks in advance:)

[PinCushionQueen]

Oh dear, Greyghost - I was trying to figure out your locked Panel issue, and accidently locked mine too. :( I feel like such a dork. Anyways, I searched and searched but can't find an alternative route, other than VNC. I don't know how to use VNC either and haven't had the time yet to figure it out.

[Greyghost]

Oh dear, Greyghost - I was trying to figure out your locked Panel issue, and accidently locked mine too. :( I feel like such a dork. Anyways, I searched and searched but can't find an alternative route, other than VNC. I don't know how to use VNC either and haven't had the time yet to figure it out.

Hey PCQ,

O ack! Sorry about that! I didn't mean to get you in a pickle as well. :eek:

I see that PB is working on a right-click solution, so very soon it might be easier than using VNC. Now, I have used VNC, but it was a while ago, and on my N800 at home, and now I have the N810 and I'm at work. I'll give it a go tomorrow when I have some free time.

Thanks so much for trying to help! I definitely *love* KDE and this little bump in the road won't last long, I hope;)

[Greyghost]

There is a lock on the taskbar. if you right click there is a lock, if you lock it, you right click again you can unlock it.

PCQ, did you know vnc server was running on your IT?

OMG! This worked! It was amazingly simple. In KDE, I went to Internet, opened RDesktop, created an invitation, got the ip and password, used tight vnc on my pc to get in. It worked and, best of all, I was able to right click and unlock the taskbar! Woo--freaking-hoo!:D:D:D

PB, KDE absolutely rocks!!

Terminology: BTW, after I looked at it, I realize wasn't locking the 'taskbar'. I was locking the 'panel' and this is why it was a bit confusing for me to figure out. Anyway, thanks again, PB for pointing me in the right direction!

[penguinbait]

OMG! This worked! It was amazingly simple. In KDE, I went to Internet, opened RDesktop, created an invitation, got the ip and password, used tight vnc on my pc to get in. It worked and, best of all, I was able to right click and unlock the taskbar! Woo--freaking-hoo!:D:D:D

PB, KDE absolutely rocks!!

Terminology: BTW, after I looked at it, I realize wasn't locking the 'taskbar'. I was locking the 'panel' and this is why it was a bit confusing for me to figure out. Anyway, thanks again, PB for pointing me in the right direction!

No need to create any invitations, just point vncviewer at tablet IP and connect, passwd is rootme

[mardibloke]

Noticed the other day if you drop out of KDE on N800, you can still VNC into the N800 :eek:

[penguinbait]

Noticed the other day if you drop out of KDE on N800, you can still VNC into the N800 :eek:

You can vnc into the n800 without starting KDE, x11vnc starts on boot

[penguinbait]

kdeaccessibility-3.5.8

Not sure how but this package was missed, I guess I cant remember everything.

Anyone trying to to Text to speech will see its not working,

This will be included in next update, DOH!

[Greyghost]

No need to create any invitations, just point vncviewer at tablet IP and connect, passwd is rootme

Most xlnt to know, thanks! I'll send some shots of my setup and some observations I've been collecting after I've had a chance to play some more this weekend.

[penguinbait]

The following is my list of settings that I use on my N810. I use KDE pretty much exclusively. I only go into Maemo anymore if I need to do a one click install of an app/update (ie: no deb available).

1) First I'll start with how to get around the fact that some of the windows are too big for the N810 screen. What I've done to make the windows that are too big accessible, is to go into Control Center -> Regional & Accessibility -> Keyboard shortcuts -> here you can assign buttons to do various tasks while in KDE. For example on my N810 there is a "menu" button to bring down the menu in Maemo apps - that is pretty much worthless as is in KDE (KDE just recognizes it as F4) so I assigned it to "Move Window". Now whenever I want to easily see the bottom of window that are too long (mainly so I can tap OK/Apply/Cancel etc...) I just press that button and then use the stylus to move the window to wherever I want it.

2) any N810 owners should use Control Center -> Regional & Accessibility -> Accessibility -> Modifier Keys -> Check "Use Sticky Keys" and "Lock Sticky Keys". This will allow your Fn & Shift keys to work like they do in Maemo (ie: Tap Fn then tap the 2nd button instead of needing to tap both at the same time).

3) I've also mapped the "Home" button to "Minimize" and "Shift + F4 (menu button)" to "Close" and so on until all of my buttons were mapped to what I want. You can also do alternative assignments for each of the commands which is handy if you're using a BT keyboard so using the keyboard uses buttons/keys that are convenient to it and my BT keyboard has it's own set of shortcuts.
You can also make application specific keyboard shortcuts - for example when I'm in KOrganizer, Ctrl +N will bring up the New Event dialog. You get the idea...

4)You can add/remove applets from the system tray and panel. If you tap on the left side of section of the panel that holds the item you want to edit, you will see a little white criss-cross verticle line with a tiny arrow at the top. Tap on that arrow and menu will pop up that allows you to edit the panel. It can be tricky to tap the arrow, so be patient if it takes a few tries.

5)Because I use KDE all the time, I wanted as much memory and CPU available for it as I could get. So I turned off all applets, email etc in Maemo.

That's at least a start...I've gotta run but will add more later :D


Well I am sitting down trying to figure out what updates I need to make

Thank God for PCQ :)

About the menu button, I like to leave it for hildon apps. It usually works when the app is fullscreen

Here is what I am thinking so far.

Right Click On/Off (F5)
Tab (Fn)(>)
Pipe Symbol (Fn)(<)
Next Desktop (Shift)(F5)

Move Window (CTRL)(F5)
Maximize/Un-Maximize (CTRL) (F7)
Minimize Window (CTRL) (F8)
Close Window (CTRL) (F6)


Joystick Kernel Module
qjoypad

Sticky Keys ON

FIX for microb fonts

Add visible cursor, possible choices?

Somehow I missed the accessibility package when I compiled 3.5.8, this will be included, but this will be a NEW KDE358.tar.bz2 file. You will still be able to use the original one, but you will not have the accessability options, Kmag, screen magnifier and Text to speech engine, (which uses flite) Ksay it and Kmouth. You can type things in tablet and have it speak. It will also read webpages, and read kopete im messages.





????

[powder2000]

This was a dealbreaker for me bu I think I have it figured out. I couldn't stand going back to it2008 from kde and having the browsser fonts messed up. I made font changes in kde until the microb browser fonts changed. I'm pretty sure the solution is in konkerer base font settings. If I remember correctly, there are advanced font settings and then another spot to change them. Anyways, change them to nokia sans, things should look better when going back to it2008.

[powder2000]

settings-configure konquerer-appearance-font setting-nokia sans..

[powder2000]

Sorry, but I'm trying to figure this out. Long story short, power down all the way and restart and your fonts will be fine. It doesn't matter what you do in konquerer. My system crashed in kde initially and I restarted and that's why I thought my settings in the browser made a differnence. All along it was the rebooting that made the difference.:)

[penguinbait]

Here is what I am thinking so far.

Right Click On/Off (F5)
Tab (Fn)(>)
Pipe Symbol (Fn)(<)
Next Desktop (Shift)(F5)

Move Window (CTRL)(F5)
Maximize/Un-Maximize (CTRL) (F7)
Minimize Window (CTRL) (F8)
Close Window (CTRL) (F6)


Joystick Kernel Module
qjoypad

Sticky Keys ON

FIX for microb fonts

Fix Trash Icon, permission problem in DEB

Add visible cursor, possible choices?

Somehow I missed the accessibility package when I compiled 3.5.8, this will be included, but this will be a NEW KDE358.tar.bz2 file. You will still be able to use the original one, but you will not have the accessability options, Kmag, screen magnifier and Text to speech engine, (which uses flite) Ksay it and Kmouth. You can type things in tablet and have it speak. It will also read webpages, and read kopete im messages..


Am I missing anything major here?

[dubwise]

Those sound like the big ones I've run into.

Might want to include a link to Battery-Status.

I think the alarm daemon should run by default.
Took me a bunch of headscratching to get Calendar to ring bells.
Didn't happen until I loaded the standalone KAlarm,
which loaded the daemon, which then autoloaded itself thereafter.

I agree with Powder, Nokia Sans is a good default.

[PinCushionQueen]

@ Penquinbait - I think you've included all the shortcuts I can think of... my only question is why make these all preset? Why not have the user just set up whatever shortcut they want (it's a really simple process)? Second - I can't for the life of me get the right-click shell script to assign to a button. It will run from xterm but I can't get it to run from a hotkey? I've been trying to use Regional & Accessibility -> Input Actions to set up the hotkey. What am I doing wrong? Or what are you doing instead?

Also, my husband (he's a code monkey) kinda rewrote the script he claims he made it "betterr" - I can send you the revised copy if you're interested - but I totally understand if you just want to stick with yours (if it 'aint broke don't fix it kinda thing).

As for Dubwise's suggestions - I agree that a link to Battery-Status should be included. I think I already sent you one when I sent you all those .desktop files.

However, I'm not sure about the KAlarm/alarm daemon thing. There's something buggy in KAlarm. It took me a week to get KAlarm to quit loading automatically at startup - I kept getting seg11 faults everytime I tried to change the KAlarm settings. I wanted to turn it off because since I use KOrganizer anyways and I was trying to minimize extraneous memory usage - I figured that KAlarm was expendable (since I can just set an alarm in KOrganizer or use EggTimer for a quicky alarm). I could quit KAlarm after it loaded at startup, but that's a PITA. Finally one day after trying repeatedly trying to disable automatic loading of KAlarm - it just stopped loading- I have absolutely no idea why. My Kalender and To-do alarms all still work. So maybe Dubwise is on to something with the alarm daemon - once it's activated once it will keep running.

One thing I'd love to see fixed (if possible of course) is Menu Editor. I've currently got all of my Maemo shortcuts on my desktop but only because Menu Editor won't actually save any shortcuts I make. Menu Editor says that it's saving - I get no error messages or anything - but when I close the editor and open KMenu again - the link I made is no where to be found. I would be nice unclutter my desktop some - especially since I don't use Maemo anymore.

And have you found any way to fix the jpeg problem? I'm just curious if you've come acrossed any fix for it yet.

While we're on the subject of settings/fixes... Has anybody come up with settings for either smplayer or mplayer to play movies without skipping and lagging in KDE. I can play my movies in Maemo with mplayer no problem but from xterm in KDE mplayer video just lags and stops/starts, same with smplayer. These are all divx files.

[dubwise]

Yes, I'm advocating for the daemon, not KAlarm.
KAlarm crashes if you look at it funny.
Running KAlarm to get the daemon launched once,
and then battling to kill KAlarm is a little counterintuitive.

Has the Calendar and alarms been working well for you?
That's actually the main thing I want out of KDE.
I'm still trying to stop carrying my Tungsten C for DateBook5,
and nothing in Maemo is working well enough yet.

Could your video problems be swap usage?
Perhaps without KDE running you're not hitting the swap file.

[penguinbait]

Yes, I'm advocating for the daemon, not KAlarm.
KAlarm crashes if you look at it funny.
Running KAlarm to get the daemon launched once,
and then battling to kill KAlarm is a little counterintuitive.

Has the Calendar and alarms been working well for you?
That's actually the main thing I want out of KDE.
I'm still trying to stop carrying my Tungsten C for DateBook5,
and nothing in Maemo is working well enough yet.

Could your video problems be swap usage?
Perhaps without KDE running you're not hitting the swap file.


Please tell me what I should do to Kalarm if I need to make a change?

PCQ is installed via boot from SD, so she does not have swap.img, but either way swap is independant of KDE, your swap is what it is regardless of what KDE does.

[penguinbait]

@ Penquinbait - I think you've included all the shortcuts I can think of... my only question is why make these all preset? Why not have the user just set up whatever shortcut they want (it's a really simple process)? Second - I can't for the life of me get the right-click shell script to assign to a button. It will run from xterm but I can't get it to run from a hotkey? I've been trying to use Regional & Accessibility -> Input Actions to set up the hotkey. What am I doing wrong? Or what are you doing instead?

I am setting up under keyboard shortcuts, commands, you select it from the menu,

Also, my husband (he's a code monkey) kinda rewrote the script he claims he made it "betterr" - I can send you the revised copy if you're interested - but I totally understand if you just want to stick with yours (if it 'aint broke don't fix it kinda thing).
Sure send it along, It was just a hack and slash, got something cleaner, I'll take a look


As for Dubwise's suggestions - I agree that a link to Battery-Status should be included. I think I already sent you one when I sent you all those .desktop files.

ALL THE LINKS you sent me will be included, along with a Hildon Menu Section, I aslo created a link in the Hildon menu section to /usr/share/applications/hildon so you can get to the hildon shorcuts as you add new apps,

I want to use battery-status, but I can't get python to install? I would like to make some custom scripts for battery-ststus, for use with KDE to notify if power is 50% and 30% ? maybe make it configurable

However, I'm not sure about the KAlarm/alarm daemon thing. There's something buggy in KAlarm. It took me a week to get KAlarm to quit loading automatically at startup - I kept getting seg11 faults everytime I tried to change the KAlarm settings. I wanted to turn it off because since I use KOrganizer anyways and I was trying to minimize extraneous memory usage - I figured that KAlarm was expendable (since I can just set an alarm in KOrganizer or use EggTimer for a quicky alarm). I could quit KAlarm after it loaded at startup, but that's a PITA. Finally one day after trying repeatedly trying to disable automatic loading of KAlarm - it just stopped loading- I have absolutely no idea why. My Kalender and To-do alarms all still work. So maybe Dubwise is on to something with the alarm daemon - once it's activated once it will keep running.

Kalarm loads fine, I did not actually try to create an alarm? I am looking for guidance as to what I can do to see the problem, or fix the problem?


One thing I'd love to see fixed (if possible of course) is Menu Editor. I've currently got all of my Maemo shortcuts on my desktop but only because Menu Editor won't actually save any shortcuts I make. Menu Editor says that it's saving - I get no error messages or anything - but when I close the editor and open KMenu again - the link I made is no where to be found. I would be nice unclutter my desktop some - especially since I don't use Maemo anymore.

I think this is permissions problem, see other post

And have you found any way to fix the jpeg problem? I'm just curious if you've come acrossed any fix for it yet.

This will only be fixed by a recompile, and I have know Idea how to fix it :(

While we're on the subject of settings/fixes... Has anybody come up with settings for either smplayer or mplayer to play movies without skipping and lagging in KDE. I can play my movies in Maemo with mplayer no problem but from xterm in KDE mplayer video just lags and stops/starts, same with smplayer. These are all divx files.

What if you run the mplayer directly under KDE does it work better?

[PinCushionQueen]

Yes, I'm advocating for the daemon, not KAlarm.
KAlarm crashes if you look at it funny.
Running KAlarm to get the daemon launched once,
and then battling to kill KAlarm is a little counterintuitive.

Has the Calendar and alarms been working well for you?
That's actually the main thing I want out of KDE.
I'm still trying to stop carrying my Tungsten C for DateBook5,
and nothing in Maemo is working well enough yet.

Could your video problems be swap usage?
Perhaps without KDE running you're not hitting the swap file.

Yeah - Kalendar and To-do with reminder alarms (visual and audio) have been working great for me :D The only problem I've had at all is that if I set up a "Repeat" in my reminders, I can't find a way register my aknowledgement of the alarm and make it stop going off every 2 mins. So instead - I just quit making my reminders with repeats. :)

All of this is of course with the understanding that I use KDE exclusively as my desktop (I seldom even go into Maemo anymore) and I keep KOrganizer docked in the System Tray and I don't turn my N810 off either (I just lock the screen). I haven't checked it out officially, but I'm almost certain an alarm set in KDE will not go off once you logout of KDE, let alone turn the device off. This is the main difference I can see between the Nokia ITs and Palms - there is really no "hibernation/wake up".

[dubwise]

Please tell me what I should do to Kalarm if I need to make a change?

Not sure what you're asking.

PCQ is installed via boot from SD, so she does not have swap.img, but either way swap is independant of KDE, your swap is what it is regardless of what KDE does.

I understand that.
But without the memory used by KDE,
she may not be hitting the swap file.
On my basic Maemo, I don't use one.

I keep KOrganizer docked in the System Tray

I've just wiped mine, prepping for dual boot, so I can't check,
but I believe the alarms work if KO's not running.
Not if KDE's not running, of course.
I never shut mine off, either. No reason to.

There's almost as much hibernation/wakeup as Palm has.
Turning off a Palm isn't very far from locking the screen on an IT.
Everything still runs.

[RioT]

This is probably pretty dumb but I can't seem to get a wallpaper to display on the desktop. I can change the colors but that's it.. Maybe I missed something.. If so, i apologize.

[albright]

png images can be used for background, but not
jpegs. I would guess that part of kde was compiled without
the jpeg Use Flag (at least, that's what we'd say using
gentoo linux).

But it's easy to convert jpg to png ... (inside kde, krita
can do it right on your tablet!)

[RioT]

Ahh! Thanks man. I didn't even try a png. Ill convert my wallpapers when I get home.

[PinCushionQueen]

Sure send it along, It was just a hack and slash, got something cleaner, I'll take a look

Great, should I email it or just post it?

ALL THE LINKS you sent me will be included, along with a Hildon Menu Section, I aslo created a link in the Hildon menu section to /usr/share/applications/hildon so you can get to the hildon shorcuts as you add new apps,

I want to use battery-status, but I can't get python to install? I would like to make some custom scripts for battery-ststus, for use with KDE to notify if power is 50% and 30% ? maybe make it configurable

Wow that Hildon Menu is a brilliant idea :) What problems are you having with Python install? I'd love to have battery-status give notifications and/or be more configurable - As it is I have to just remember to check it every so often, but hey I'm not complaining at least there is some way to check battery levels at all. Any improvements would be much appreciated


Kalarm loads fine, I did not actually try to create an alarm? I am looking for guidance as to what I can do to see the problem, or fix the problem?

The problem is not with KAlarm loading really, it more with the fact that once I loaded it the one time, I had a really hard time getting it to stop automatically loading whenever I started KDE. Dubwise was saying that you need to start KAlarm at least once inorder to get the Alarm Daemon to start loading at startup and you need the Alarm Daemon to get KOrganizer alarms to work. So we actually need the Alarm Daemon to load without having to launch KAlarm first. Do that help?


This will only be fixed by a recompile, and I have know Idea how to fix it

Thanks for the info. The libraries are all there so it's weird that it won't work. Ah well, it's easy enough to change to pngs - I was just trying to be lazy ;)

What if you run the mplayer directly under KDE does it work better?

I've tried running mplayer under KDE from xterm and by pointing smplayer to use mplayer for video. I get an error messages from Konsole: "Your system is too SLOW to play this!" then there is a long list of possible reasons and fixes. I'm not sure how else I would use mplayer under KDE :confused: If I use the Maemo GMPlauncher (MPlayer) for the same video it works, so I was thinking that it was making some adjustments to cache, speed etc. All in all this is not a big deal - I don't really watch that much video, just more of a would-be-cool-if-it-worked kinda thing.

[Greyghost]

Here is what I am thinking so far.

Right Click On/Off (F5)
Tab (Fn)(>)
Pipe Symbol (Fn)(<)
Next Desktop (Shift)(F5)

Move Window (CTRL)(F5)
Maximize/Un-Maximize (CTRL) (F7)
Minimize Window (CTRL) (F8)
Close Window (CTRL) (F6)


Joystick Kernel Module
qjoypad

Sticky Keys ON

FIX for microb fonts

Fix Trash Icon, permission problem in DEB

Add visible cursor, possible choices?



Am I missing anything major here?

Hey Penguinbait,

The more I play with KDE, the more inclined I am to go the way PCQ, and make KDE my exclusive 'environment'. It does eem to have everything I need and, indeed, includes most everything I wanted in the IT when I bought it.

Of course, the first place I started was customizing the desktop, so I quickly discovered the .jpg/.png issue, but almost as quickly, I was in Krita converting them to see if it worked. And it does, slowly but surely. What I thought was really cool was the fact that when I'm online, there's an option to download interesting new backgrounds! Making it possible to use .jpgs for the background would eliminate a step when getting new backgrounds this way.

Next I started messing with the themes, and found way more options than I know what to do with, which is a good thing! I settled on Atlas Green, I think, and proceeded to add all the bells and whistles like animated icons whne the app is opening, applet handles, etc. If there is a performance cost for enabling these bits o eye candy, I haven't noticed it.

Right away, I had the common issue with the window size and finding the buttons at the bottom, but with your and PCQ's guidance, figured out how to use the pager. It works, of course, but it would be nice if all windows were simply the right size.

Next I went to messing with the panels, adding one for applications at the top and removing things from the one on the bottom. As I mentioned in earlier posts, I accidentally 'locked' my panel and need a right-click to get i back, which I did via VNC, but it would be nice to use a mouse. This I know is imminent, if not already possible:)

I also removed the connection applet that was built-in, and when I figured out how to put it back using the 'add non-KDE app' function, I was successful in getting it to work, but the icon became a generic little 'cog'. It'd be nice to customize this the way you did.

The three apps I really want to use are Kword, Kspread and Krita, and of the three, two are working perfectly, albeit a bit slowly. Kspread is the one that doesn't work quite right yet, for me at least. I am able to open the app, but when I try to open my inventory files, stored as multiple sheet excel (.xls) files, the app simply 'hangs'. This is a key issue for me because spreadsheets are one of things I intend to use my tablet for, and so far, I haven't got a way to do it. In os07, I was using Gnumeric, but hasn't been adequately ported to the new OS (though Chelli is working on it;).

Finally, till now, I have been using GPE as my PIM, with Erminig to snyc to my Google calendar, which is my primary interface. Do you know if there is a way to sync my Google calendar to my KDE calendar? If so, the coup is complete. I may never go back to Maemo!

That's my two cents for now. I hope this is helpful. PCQ is by far the more helpful in giving practical advice, but I will continue to test and report findings if that's useful to you.

[dubwise]

I want to use battery-status, but I can't get python to install? I would like to make some custom scripts for battery-ststus, for use with KDE to notify if power is 50% and 30% ? maybe make it configurable

For no apparent reason, they've removed Python as a stand-alone runtime.
apt-get install Python got me Python 2.4, which is of no use.
The Python 2.5 upgrade link at Maemo.org won't work on it.
You have to find an app that needs it,
and has the dependencies and whatever set right.
I tried a half dozen before I tried Canola, which gets Python.
Many apps will either refuse to install or install and not work,
because there's no Python.
Anyway, sorry for the rant.
Install Canola, install battery-status, and uninstall Canola.

Oy. So I just did that, ran battery-status, and it doesn't work.

[penguinbait]

Finally, till now, I have been using GPE as my PIM, with Erminig to snyc to my Google calendar, which is my primary interface. Do you know if there is a way to sync my Google calendar to my KDE calendar? If so, the coup is complete. I may never go back to Maemo!



Look at kitchensync :)

The google calendar sync is there, but it requires python

It may also require some help, I have never tried to use it before though.

Please let me know if its working, I may have to walk you through setting up again once python is installed in order to work, so let me know..

[dubwise]

OK, Python is happening.
I must have just munged the install trying different things.

It's in maemo Extras.

gainroot
apt-get install python2.5-runtime

battery-status is in

Catalog name: Olya.com Maemo Repository
Web address: http://olya.com
Distribution:
Components: user

It works.

[Greyghost]

Look at kitchensync :)

The google calendar sync is there, but it requires python

It may also require some help, I have never tried to use it before though.

Please let me know if its working, I may have to walk you through setting up again once python is installed in order to work, so let me know..

I'm about to check it out in more depth. In a quick check earlier today, I found a google 'piece' of the puzzle in the organizer/calendar but haven't got very far yet.

I have python runtime 2.5 installed, thanks to Erminig. Will that be sufficient, you think? Well, I'll soon find out. Thanks for the offer to help...I may well take you up on it tomorrow.

Cheers!

[albright]

While we're on the subject of settings/fixes... Has anybody come up with settings for either smplayer or mplayer to play movies without skipping and lagging in KDE.

In case this is still an issue, I noticed in another thread
this magic spell. With root privileges, run this command:

renice 0 `pidof mmcqd`

Music and videos play *much* better for me now

(a little experimentation suggests that a nice value of +5
is even better, but it might just be the placebo effect :) )