Maemopad+

[disq]

First release of Maemopad+

Maemopad+ (the package name is MaemopadPlus due to problems with the "+" character) is a tree-structured notes editor, based on maemopad. It will be able to take typed-notes -AND- sketches. After the 2006 OS release it might also store voice-notes. Notes are saved in a single xml datafile. Currently it also saves UI stuff and last-datafile-opened info. Early experimentation phases.

Version 0.1 - Test release
http://www.ehore.com/apps/maemopad+/maemopadplus_0.1_arm.deb
this is a test release and should be treated as such.

BUGS
- it won't save sketches yet
- sketches are sketchy
- using GtkCTree, will convert to GtkTreeView asap
- initial GtkCTree (well, the treewidget) width should be smaller (so the horizontal scrollbars should not be displayed)
- i18n is incomplete

TODO
- keep last modified date for every node
- save text properties (font face/size, color, style) for every node
- add brush size and ink color picker
- save the sketches!
- maybe add a "set default text properties" kind of thing, for newly created nodes
- Create a "sample node" (or a series of nodes, like an app demo?)
- Add about box
- Test against low memory conditions and rewrite portions accordingly

I will release the sourcecode mid-march, after my N770 arrives and I test/develop the code some more.

[fpp]

Good news that, a simple note-taking utility is a basic need that's sorely lacking on the 770 right now. Thanks for your effort ! But why XML ? How does one reuse notes taken on the 770 on another platform ?

[aflegg]

Several options:

* Write an XSLT which can convert the notes to any other format (HTML, CSV, ...)
* Write a "MaemopadML" editor for any other platform in any language you like.

Why wouldn't it be XML? Structured file formats is exactly what XML should be used for...

[fpp]

Well, a lot of something-pad programs are plain text editors, which are good enough for a lot of quick note-taking tasks, and we don't have one on the 770, so I'd be happy to have that first. Once I've written down my meeting notes or whatever, I shouldn't have to write anything else (XLST or yet another editor :-) to reuse my text anywhere else !
Also, a text editor can also serve to edit a lne or two of Python code on the go, but an XML editor can't.

[aflegg]

Don't think of it as Notepad, think of it as Jotter (http://home.online.no/~gmorgan/gadgets/psion/images/screen_jotter.gif)

We've got text editors galore: Notes, Maemopad, vim, nano, ... - what's needed is a proper note pad/taking application. Horizon is that if you can write on the device, hopefully Maemopad+ will be for more text-oriented input.

[Simon]

I've had a PDA of some sort or another for years. Never have come across the perfect note taking app. I usually wrote the note to a Post-it and stuck it to the outside of my Palm 5 :)

[disq]

thank you all for the comments.

the purpose of the xml file (or it could've been any other datafile) format is mainly the tree-structured view. i could've made it so you pointed a "data directory" and the nodes were simply files in that directory. i didn't because i liked the single-datafile idea better, it's tidy and easier to back up. to view the notes outside, an XSLT formatter would do the trick. you won't be able to view sketches with that tho, (i will save the sketches in png (or maybe pixmap) and uuencode/base64encode it into the xml stream) so will probably have to add functions to import/export sketches (and don't forget voice notes) in the future. or you could use clipboard functions, they will work.

[henry]

Have you considered using sqlite for storage? It might be better for memory consumption because you only need to load the tree and the current note into memory.

[fanoush]

Or have you considered only having the structure in the xml and actual data in files? i.e replace data with file name. With bigger data this looks like better way. uuencoding pictures looks like unneeded bloat. It might work fine for few notes but storing more data inside the nodes may become problem in future (memory,speed). sqlite is a good choice too, it is used in GPE PIM applications. I think they used xml too but later found it simply does not scale with more data.

[disq]

in fact i considered sqlite but didn't act on it. looks like it's a better way, yeah.

as for using xml as a data-index file, well, i don't see the need for it. the data directory idea and storing the files and the structure on the filesystem is better.

but, would using the data directory method (the one i described in my last post) confuse the users? it's way more compatible than a sqlite db, but i'm worried about the ease of use for the average user. what do you think?

[Karel Jansens]

I've had a PDA of some sort or another for years. Never have come across the perfect note taking app. I usually wrote the note to a Post-it and stuck it to the outside of my Palm 5 :)

Ah. You never ever used a Newton, right?

[fanoush]

as for using xml as a data-index file, well, i don't see the need for it. the data directory idea and storing the files and the structure on the filesystem is better.
Yes, there is no need if you really need only simple tree structure. If you need things like categories (i.e same note belong to multiple categories) or more sortable attributes then you must maintain the structure somewhere and xml might be good for this. But yes, using sqlite may be better then so why to use files. I only mentioned xml as index because it is incremental change to current design.

As for confusing the users I don't think it will be worse or that it matters. Even single XML has a little use for non-programmer. As for the backups it is not much harder to backup directory than backup the file. And you can integrate your data into maemo backup applet anyway for normal users.

[disq]

nope the nodes won't have multiple categories. it's a notes app after all.

a problem with using plain files (the dir structure idea) arise when you try to search the contents. i'm leaning towards sqlite right now. also with sqlite it's easier to implement fancy stuff like spreadsheet notes etc.

but first i'll switch the gtkctree code to gtktreeview, then start experimenting with sqlite. i also want to experiment with using one unified widget for text and drawings. if it technically can work, then the user will select the i-beam or the pen, and according to the selection he/she can write on the document or draw on it. dunno, it's lots of work.

[disq]

--new and improved todo--

- upgrade to gtktreeview (in progress as of now)
- make the sketch stuff (gtkdrawingarea) into a SketchWidget class
- use sqlite
- save sketches
- fix sketches, test on a real 770 (5 days left)
- option to make node names as sketches (add SketchWidget to "New node" dialog, provide a tabbed selection)
- adjustable ink color and brush size
- adjustable text properties (formatting)
- richtext editing (read: allow formatting)
- make two toolbars one for text nodes (formatting etc) and one for sketch nodes (ink size/color)
- make fullscreen button toggle the tree (4 modes: plain document, document+toolbar, tree+document+toolbar, normal)
- fix the i18n or remove it altogether (well.. fix the i18n)
- keep last modified date for every node
- if no document (well, datafile) loaded, start out with a "New Document"
- Add about box
- Add search
- Test against low memory conditions and rewrite portions accordingly

well that's about it, any additions?

[fpp]

Don't think of it as Notepad, think of it as Jotter (http://home.online.no/~gmorgan/gadgets/psion/images/screen_jotter.gif)

Ah, yes. On the Psion there was another app that was even better (Notes something ? I forget, my last one just died).

We've got text editors galore: Notes, Maemopad, vim, nano, ...
Do we now ? I have xterm, vim and nano, but that isn't my idea of quick and user-friendly note taking -- more like editing config files and scripts. I was under the impression that Hildon/Maemo was lacking a basic, native, Notepad-like text editor. What is maemopad ? It doesn't appear on the maemo wiki apps list, and even when you know it exists, Google turns up precious little. Just a very old .deb from before the 770 actually went on sale, and it doesn't install. Am I missing someting ?

[fpp]

thank you all for the comments.
the purpose of the xml file (or it could've been any other datafile) format is mainly the tree-structured view. i could've made it so you pointed a "data directory" and the nodes were simply files in that directory. i didn't because i liked the single-datafile idea better, it's tidy and easier to back up. to view the notes outside, an XSLT formatter would do the trick. you won't be able to view sketches with that tho, (i will save the sketches in png (or maybe pixmap) and uuencode/base64encode it into the xml stream) so will probably have to add functions to import/export sketches (and don't forget voice notes) in the future. or you could use clipboard functions, they will work.
This sounds like TreeLine, of which there is a port for the Zaurus :
http://www.bellz.org/treeline/

... only with PyGtk under Hildon instead of PyQt under Qtopia, and extended to non-text content. The nice thing about TreeLine is that the same app runs under Linux/Windows, so you can share your data between the desktop and the PDA.

[disq]

What is maemopad ? It doesn't appear on the maemo wiki apps list, and even when you know it exists, Google turns up precious little. Just a very old .deb from before the 770 actually went on sale, and it doesn't install. Am I missing someting ?

it's the "sample app" that's in the building an application for maemo tutorial (http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/howtos/howto_new_application.html). the debs are really old yes, but you get the idea from the provided screenshot.

there's also a 1.4 version around (only sourcecode but it compiles) here (https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/tools/trunk/maemo_testing/), this one's mentioned in the SDK tutorial here (http://www.maemo.org/platform/docs/tutorials/Maemo_tutorial.html#Building-applications).

[fpp]

Thanks for the confirmation. So my point still stands : we have ebook readers and RSS readers and a del.icio.us reader and a bloglines reader and whatnot, but there isn't a simple basic notepad readily available to the 770 end user.

I definitely don't want to compile my own notepad, I just want to edit good old TXT files :-)

[ziggamon]

Yeah! Somebody please publish a deb of regular maemopad for us to use.

Not to discourage the use of the potentially wonderful maemopad+! ;-)

[disq]

just compiled it, download: http://www.ehore.com/apps/temp/maemopad_1.4_arm.deb

but the app installer (in the SDK) won't install the package. I was able to install it in the SDK by doing a fakeroot dpkg -i --force-all maemopad_1.4_arm.deb, if it helps.


Maemopad+ progress:
I did the GtkTreeView thing (took me a whole day), and sqlite3 support. it can also save sketches now, but that part is still buggy (and kinda slow)

The sqlite3 support turned out to be great tho, it only loads the node data when you activate the node. The sketch loading stuff is much slower now, but i'm going to optimize it. The text loading stuff works great, and it should now be able to handle several big documents. Still not ready for another release so i'm holding out on that, maybe tonight.

[fpp]

Hey, thanks a lot ! The package installed just fine on my 770, and it's definitely a worthwhile utility to have around... Shall I go ahead and add it to the catalog on the maemo wiki ?

Now I can follow with interest and peace of mind the progress of memopad+ :-)

[disq]

Hey, thanks a lot ! The package installed just fine on my 770, and it's definitely a worthwhile utility to have around... Shall I go ahead and add it to the catalog on the maemo wiki ?

Now I can follow with interest and peace of mind the progress of memopad+ :-)

yeah you can go ahead and add it :)

[fpp]

Done, thanks again !

[disq]

Ok, version 0.15

Changesupgraded gtkctree to gtktreeview
made the sketch stuff (gtkdrawingarea) into a SketchWidget class
now using sqlite instead of xml
sketches are saved
if no document (well, datafile) loaded, starts out with a "New Document"
added about box
added adjustable ink color (change font button)
strings i18n'ized (need to generate .pot)
4 fullscreen modes
ESC key exits fullscreen or closes app
added option to make node names as sketches

Download
ARM-deb: http://www.ehore.com/apps/maemopad+/maemopadplus_0.15_arm.deb
Requires: sqlite3 (http://www.owenwilliams.plus.com/maemo/)

Source: http://www.ehore.com/apps/maemopad+/maemopadplus_0.15.tar.gz

Screenshots
Shot 1 (http://www.ehore.com/apps/maemopad+/shot1.png) Shot 2 (http://www.ehore.com/apps/maemopad+/shot2.png)

Things to fix
- add border around new sketched nodename sketchwidget
- test sketches on a real 770 (~1 day left)
- first sketchload always fails (pixmap or realize/map problem)
- node order -- column `ord` not saved (FIXME)
- change detection might be too sensitive, test
- offering filenames on newfile/savefile dialogs doesn't work as it should


Todo
- adjustable brush size
- adjustable text properties (formatting)
- richtext editing (read: allow formatting)
- make two toolbars one for text nodes (formatting etc) and one for sketch nodes (ink size/color)
- keep last modified date for every node
- Add search
- Test against low memory conditions and rewrite portions accordingly

[jdr93]

this new version looks very interesting. i'm not sure what you want it to do, but i would be interested in it if i could make sketches in about two thirds of the window and write (type) real text in the other third, then save the whole window as a file. it would be nice if one could alternatively add a jpg or gif to the "sketch" area and have the ability to add notes to the text area.
so far i've added it to my my n7 and it works pretty well, except it terminates unexpectedly when i tap on the name of the node which is displayed in the upper left corner (where you have 'sample node'). and i have not gotten it to accept any text. but i'm just getting it going, so things should be better when i figure it out more.

thanks

john

[disq]

version 0.16

Changes

added brush size buttons (no icons yet)
added eraser button
save changes dialog now has a cancel button
added hildoncolorbutton to toolbar
"new" button changed icon
if a sketch node is selected, cut/copy/paste/font buttons and edit menu are hidden
added tap-and-hold menu to the tree
now got 5 fullscreen modes (0:normal 1:notree-normal 2:normal-full 3:notree-full 4:justdoc-full)
removed "open file" button from the toolbar
"new" button on the toolbar now creates a new node (same type as the current node)


Download
ARM-deb: http://www.ehore.com/apps/maemopad+/maemopadplus_0.16_arm.deb
Requires: sqlite3 (http://www.owenwilliams.plus.com/maemo/)

Source: http://www.ehore.com/apps/maemopad+/maemopadplus_0.16.tar.gz



jdr93, tried but couldn't reproduce your bugs. also clicking on the textarea (right side on a text node) you should be able to enter text.

[Hedgecore]

Excellent app!!! I love all the little nuances that were added because "maybe someone would like that functionality" such as sketching actual note titles. Also, being a database monkey, everything makes sense to me. I love this app!

[ziggamon]

Some feature requests if I so humbly may ;)

* The possibility to extend the sketch vertically
* The possibility to erase by drawing over (perhaps a bit advanced)
* Add lines to the drawing area for note-taking.

Keep up the good work!

[disq]

The sketches are always 800x480 pixels right now. But I will add enlarge canvas option. mmm, maybe keep the 800 pixels width but add new "pages" of 480 pixels...

Notebook-lines will be available on the next version, you will be able to toggle them on and off.

Btw, right now current unreleased version allows bigger sketchnodenames (288x96 instead of 144x48) and then clips the white portions, resizes it and centers it vertically. (horizontally it's left aligned) It's going good.

[disq]

Version 0.17

Changes
shamelessly stole and modified icon from the tango project (for the lines/squares toolbutton)
fixed first sketchload always failing bug
added OSSO event handler for saving unsaved data on request
added the new menus and font/color selection to app menu (under tools)
added todo
added notebook lines/squares
moved brushsize buttons to a brushsize icon and menu
shamelessly stole eraser/pencil pixmaps from xournal
eraser size is now 4 points larger than the current brushsize
the toolbar icon and the menu reflects eraser size
added a flags column to data table
added a dataVersion key to the misc table
wrote dirty code to migrate tables from v0 to v1
added border to sketchname area
sketchname area enlarged to 288x96
contents of the sketchname area are resized (and centered) if necessary

Download
ARM-deb: http://www.ehore.com/apps/maemopad+/maemopadplus_0.17_arm.deb
Requires: http://www.owenwilliams.plus.com/maemo/

Source: http://www.ehore.com/apps/maemopad+/maemopadplus_0.17.tar.gz

http://www.ehore.com/apps/maemopad+/shot017-1s.png (http://www.ehore.com/apps/maemopad+/shot017-1.png) http://www.ehore.com/apps/maemopad+/shot017-2s.png (http://www.ehore.com/apps/maemopad+/shot017-2.png)

[Hedgecore]

Excellent, I'm grabbing this the second I get home today. One question though, is it possible to move nodes around, like to drag and drop (with the target of the drop becoming the parent)?

[disq]

not currently, no. implementing a good dnd interface is not easy, as you can't use the pointer for it. i'll probably have to put buttons to move nodes around :)

but maybe a quick hack that turns the tree into an effective listview (create-new-nodes-as-siblings-instead-of-childnodes) could be implemented, like a checkbox in the menu, or maybe a checkbox in the "create new node" dialog. that should help keep things tidy.

i'd like to concentrate on sketching speed issues in the next release or so, i'll make it work at 8bpp (instead of 32 as in now) and i'll try out some new drawing methods, as well as try adding clipboard support for the sketches.

also i want to enable the tree expanders somehow (probably with a supplied .gtkrc), the tree looks very sad right now.

[Hedgecore]

Oops, I'd figured D&D support would be something relatively easy. + / - buttons (even linked to the zoom in/zoom out buttons, heh!) would be great. I'm loving the app as it's so versatile. I've been writing down local shows, and for shows my band's playing sketching out flyer designs etc. Keep those updates coming ;)

[DaScud]

I tried maemopad+ yesterday and really liked the app. I was actually surprised that the touch screen was so responsive in tracking my handwriting. However, I think i may have found a bug or two or maybe i am doing something wrong.

If i create a node in the sketch mode and write/draw some stuff it works fine.
But if i tap again on the created node name (sketch node) it starts off with a blank page erasing all the previous work.

However, i found that if i create a sketch node and then a text node and tapping the sketch node works as expected and i can switch between the two node types.
The problem only occurs when i have only one sketch node.

Another thing is that the app seems less responsive in the zoom modes and my handwriting doesnt seem normal compared to when i scribble things in the regular mode.

Hopefully this will get addressed in the next release.



Great app btw.

Tks,
DaScud

[disq]

yeah the bug you described still exists, i will try to fix it in the next release.

in the current beta drawing is faster, that would probably fix the fullscreen mode (i think that's what you meant with "zoom mode") being slow thingy.

last night i finally implemented undo, redo is still buggy. I also bound [-]/[+] keys to undo/redo.

my TODO before the next release: - add a checkbox to create node dialog to create the node as sibling as not child (or reverse in the UI)
- fix redo
- make [-]/[+] also work in the create node dialog
- try rendering the background pixmap from tiles and precalc the tiles at widget init
- BUG: clicking on current sketch erases all work
- probable bug: ending drawing beyond canvas makes undo a dull boy (crash protection in place)
- make sketchwidget borders work again (the bg pixmap precalc thing will break it)

[DaScud]

Great. Look forward to your next release.

Tks,
DaScud

yeah the bug you described still exists, i will try to fix it in the next release.

in the current beta drawing is faster, that would probably fix the fullscreen mode (i think that's what you meant with "zoom mode") being slow thingy.

last night i finally implemented undo, redo is still buggy. I also bound [-]/[+] keys to undo/redo.

my TODO before the next release:

[disq]

Version 0.18
another all-nighter release!

moved stuff to sf.net, it's slow but i didn't feel like installing svn/apache, and my hosting goes down a few times a year.

Files are here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=164383

Changes (sorted by date desc, my favorite ones are in bold)
project home moved to sf.net
fixed the "clicking on current sketch erases all work" bug
added "Clear" item to edit menu
now also saving fullScreen status in the misc table
fixed redo -- could be optimized by checking for dupe tilepixmaps in adjacent revisions and refcounting
made graph squares bigger (looks better)
rearranged brushsize button with the eraser toggle
if the brushsize button is clicked when eraser is on, it just turns off eraser and won't pop menu
made the eraser smaller (2x +4 of the current brush size, 3x+4 was too large)
added graph background to the sketchnodename dialog (the borders don't work anymore, to compensate)
treeview loads up with node0 selected. ugly workaround in place (mainview->loading)
added watch cursor as a "loading" sign
added fullscreen submenu to menu/toolbar
made the eraser larger (3x +4 of the current brush size)
now rendering the background pixmap from tiles and precalcing them at widget init (just to test the performance) in human language: traded a little cpu usage for ~700k of ram
implemented primitive(=no layering/selection) clipboard functionality for sketches
added a checkbox in create node dialog to create the new node as sibling/child
that checkbox's state is saved to db
made undo/redo buttons change sensitivity
made default newnodetype sketch
moved node operations in the menu to a node submenu
made tools menu not appear when no node is selected
made [-]/[+] also work in the create node dialog
added borders around the main sketchwidget
fixed graph bg alignment
tried 8bpp, didn't work
made drawing faster
implemented undo/redo on sketches
[-]/[+] keys do undo/redo on sketches now


TODO
ADD:
- show treeview pixmaps (HOW?)
- BORDERS around sketchwidget (HOW?)
- resize canvas (pages of 480 pixels?)
- import/export images (minimal vector ops might be needed here, to move and resize the image)
- change canvas background color (just to keep up with xournal :P )
- erase by drawing over option?
- maybe leftarrow-rightarrow change focus and uparrow-downarrow walk the tree? (need a way fix the textview issue)
- keep/show last modified date for every node
- search
- adjustable text properties (formatting)
- richtext editing (read: allow formatting)
- Test against low memory conditions and rewrite portions accordingly
- redo eraser/pencil/color toolbar logic some more

- add a swatches toolbar? at least "last used 4 colors" somewhere?

FIX:
- creating a childnode to the rootnode is not possible
- fix/add hook: make tools menu not appear when no node is selected
- probable bug: ending drawing beyond canvas might make undo a dull boy (crash protection in place)
- node order -- column `ord` not saved (FIXME)
- change detection might be too sensitive, test
- offering filenames on newfile/savefile dialogs doesn't work as it should
NONEED- use xlib instead of gdkdrawingarea for the sketchwidget?
WONTWORK- try using 8bpp pixmaps

[jurop88]

Disq, you're doing a great job! Now the prog is fully usable to take on-the-fly notes, the speed improvemement has far been the most important point. Some concerns about UI:
1 - i dislike (but it could be just mine) the automatic resize of the brush tool. After set dimensions, you rarely change them (excpet when drawing some sketch), so a set-and-remember-and-leave-it would be more useful IMHO. Just click on the pencil or on the brush when you need them et voilà. Anyway, clicking on the pencil now deactivates the brush, so another great usbility improvement.
2 - to much options associated to the full-screen button. Any app in Maemo just switch between two modes, and so I think that the button should just do this. Choose one of the full-screen modes and go with it. Perhaps in the future you can add a prefs menu that keep memory of the mode associated with the button. If you need another mode, you can ever use menus.
3 - on-screen menu while in full-screen mode? hehehe...

Wonder on a future version with a OCR program in the background (or by pressing a key) that convert your notes to text... So no needings to keep separate drawings and notes anymore!

Just my 2 cents

PS: see you in IRC!

[disq]

glad you liked it :)

1- using the stylus it's usually hard to erase something completely and you usually end up doing multiple passes (left-right-left-right etc) but with the eraser size slightly bigger than the brush size, i find it much easier.

2- again, i find having layout presets practical, putting it in a menu or in a prefs dialog is nearly equal to taking it away, the user will have to navigate thru ui elements (menu->submenu->menuitem, or menu->prefs->tabs) to simply change the type of view. but maybe one could set prefs for the behaviour of the full screen hardware button, so it just toggles one of the modes and not cycles thru all of the available modes.

3- did you try using the menu key? ;)


and about the ocr thing, well, it's kinda out of my league :)

[disq]

version 0.18a

fixes a serious memleak that occurs while loading a sketch from db. now maemopad+ should consume between 7-10 megs of ram at most.

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=164383&package_id=186164&release_id=407360

(reminder for new users: it still requires sqlite3 to work)

[disq]

as most of you noticed there's a build for the IT2006 OS :)
what you probably didn't notice is I released another build (0.21) a few hours after the first release. it fixes most (all?) of the it2006-branch related issues.

Device-installable .deb file (http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/maemopadplus/maemopadplus_0.21_armel.deb?download)
Project page/release link/source code (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=164383&package_id=192759&release_id=423742)

Changes
fixed: closing via the "X" button really closes the app now
added: maemo-select-menu-location to postinst
fixed: x-osso-service
fixed: confirmation dialogs
fixed: hardware keys

[disq]

new release: 0.22

Device-installable .deb file (https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/11/maemopadplus_0.22_armel.deb)
Project page/release link/source code (https://garage.maemo.org/projects/maemopadplus/)
Screenshots (https://garage.maemo.org/docman/index.php?group_id=30&selected_doc_group_id=25&language_id=1)

Changes:
fixed: added maemo-select-menu-location to pre-depends
saving brushsize and brushcolor
renamed osso service name to org.maemo.maemopadplus, then renamed it back
added export node option
added shape support (up/down/left/right keys for filled/unfilled and squared modes)
made demo screenshots

[luketoh]

Hi

I'm using a Thinkoutside BT keyboard. Whenever I hit the "Return" key, Maemopad+ simply pops up the Tool bar. Is there any way to get a real "Return" to work on it? Notepad doesn't have this problem, fyi.



Luke

[ArnimS]

Beautiful app disq, reminds me of the old note-taker i used on the psion netbook. +++

[jpj]

Apps like this are starting to *SCREAM* for printer support!!!

[ArnimS]

I donno.. printing is a huge can of worms.

If the app can export notes+sketches to a simple, standard format, that'd be enough to transfer the file out to a PC for printing

[jpj]

Lest there be any misunderstanding, I'm talking about printer support at the OS level, not pushing it down at the app guys. Also, please excuse my laziness for not yet inspecting Maemopad+ in the flesh, but what is the current savefile formet, something standard or app specific? PNG ought to be a good choice for what I see in the screenshots.

[basco]

Not a whole lot of discussion on this lately. Just wondered if some of the to-do list is being worked on? I especially like the search feature to be on the "done list".

[disq]

a second developer (anil kumar) joined the team, he's working on new features as well as bugfixes. and one of the features he's currently working on is #454 - search in text.

[jimb]

Really enjoying this app. Thanks :)

I see that each separate entry can be exported. I'm just wondering, is there a way to view/edit a whole .db file on a pc? Or, can all the entries be exported at once (rather than having to export each one separately)?

Thanks

[disq]

a sqlite3 client should be able to edit the db. the default client is not good for binary stuff though so it won't be able to import/export sketches.

[traveller604]

I mainly use the grid background and tilt the device 90 degrees (full screen, no toolbars visible). I feel it's so much more comfortable to write this way. If only there was a quick way to create a new "page"..

[geneven]

"If only there was a quick way to create a new "page""

Amen, but even better would be a never-ending page, or almost never-ending.

[Karel Jansens]

"If only there was a quick way to create a new "page""

Amen, but even better would be a never-ending page, or almost never-ending.

Ooh! ooh! And how about if you draw a horizontal line over the width of the screen, it creates a new file.

Oh, wait...

[morrison]

Was wondering if anyone can help me out on this. I have an 810 and I recently tried to install the latest Maemopad+. The install fails everytime telling me I need libwpedit-plus > 1.0. Where do I get this file, or is there some other app I need as pre-requisite? Thanks.

[jgallen23]

anybody able to install this in diablo?

[grog]

anybody able to install this in diablo?
Tried but no luck. Check out this post (http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=216396&postcount=6) for details.

[TrueJournals]

I had no problems installing it. Although, I do have the chinook extras repository enabled in my list. Try adding it and see if you can install it.

[grog]

I had no problems installing it. Although, I do have the chinook extras repository enabled in my list. Try adding it and see if you can install it.
I've already got that as well. In the next post (http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=216397&postcount=7) qwerty12 suggested I might need red pill mode to install, but I haven't gotten around to trying it yet. Did you need to do that?

[Laughing Man]

I didn't need red pill. It installed just fine after adding the chinook extras repo to my list.

[rdcinhou]

Just now getting around to looking at Maemopad after having had my N800s for a year-and-a-half, mainly because I found it could do checklists (still looking for a good shopping list program!).

Is anyone aware that there is a BUG in this application when you go from text entry (stylus) to text-entry (OSK) that the text is not returned to the application?

Also, I would have expected that in Checklist mode you would have the ability to create a new list entry, but so far the only method I can find is to copy a list from another object and then paste into the checklist.

Despite the attractive price of "free" software, there's a lot to be said for a well-thought-out application at a nominal price.

[KristianW]

Look also at mnotes, simple checklist,
quicknote,
and notecase, more advanced.

Also shopper.

[n810fan]

I'm new to Maemopad+. Is there a "search" or "find" button somewhere? I could not find it, nor could I see a "find" command in the tool bar. Many thanks.

[pelago]

I don't think there is, unfortunately.

[thp]

Since I've been working on MaePad (http://thpinfo.com/2010/maepad/) during the last few weeks, I noticed that some cool changes (searching) in Maemopad+ from 2008 have never been officially released and packaged, so I set out and spent some time on Maemopad+ today.

The result is a new release: Maemopad+ 0.36 is currently in the autobuilder and should be available in Diablo Extras-Devel soon. The Maemopad+ homepage (http://maemopadplus.garage.maemo.org/) has more information about the current status of the project and supported OS releases.

As part of this update, I've also taken the time to convert the SVN repository to a Git repository to allow easier maintenance and not depend on a centralized repository. You can browse the Git repository online (http://repo.or.cz/w/maemopadplus.git).

This is the first new Maemopad+ release since October 2008.

Patches and translation updates are still gladly accepted, and I'll try to merge them as they come in and eventually do a new release if several changes do pile up. The more likely case (I think/hope) is that some kind of Fremantle (with Hildon 2.2) will come to the N8x0 devices (Mer?), so that all users can eventually make use of MaePad on the N800 and N810.

[silvermountain]

Installed and tested 0.36 and it's really a neat, small structured note taker.
Will absolutely play more with it. Thanks for updating this.
Any more features bug-fixes (ex: you can't rename the top node if there is no sub-nodes present or the app will close down) planned?

[thp]

Any more features bug-fixes (ex: you can't rename the top node if there is no sub-nodes present or the app will close down) planned?

If you provide a nice bug report with step-to-step instructions that illustrate the bug, I might be able to give this a shot. Features won't be added due to time constraints (submitted patches will be applied, however), but fixing crasher bugs should be doable :)

[silvermountain]

Bug.

1) Open up Maemopad
2) File>New data file
3) Rename "My First memo" node to "Studies'
4) The app crashes

The only 'feature' I'd love to see would be the ability to add an image file as a node.

[thp]

1) Open up Maemopad
2) File>New data file
3) Rename "My First memo" node to "Studies'
4) The app crashes

Thanks for this excellent bug report, and sorry that it took so long for me to catch up on the issue. I was able to reproduce this bug and after inspecting the core dump with gdb, I found that the code was free'ing a static string, which is not so good ;)

The fix is already in the Git repository, and the new version (0.37) tagged and ready to be uploaded to the Extras builder for Diablo.

[WhiteWolf]

Bug.

1) Open up Maemopad
2) File>New data file
3) Rename "My First memo" node to "Studies'
4) The app crashes

The only 'feature' I'd love to see would be the ability to add an image file as a node.

The resulting message is:

Init: 0x46567270
**
ERROR:dbus-gproxy.c:2269:dbus_g_proxy_marshal_args_to_message : code should not be reached
Aborted

[thp]

Init: 0x46567270
**
ERROR:dbus-gproxy.c:2269:dbus_g_proxy_marshal_args_to_message : code should not be reached
Aborted

Does this happen in version 0.37 as well?

[WhiteWolf]

No.

v 0.36 - updating to 0.37

[WhiteWolf]

I also occurs in version 1.7 on the N900

[thp]

v 0.36 - updating to 0.37

Ok, so just update to 0.37 and the problem is gone (I just checked again to be sure). The crasher bug as described by silvermountain has been fixed. If you still experience another bug, please post instructions on how to reliably reproduce the bug in the latest version.

I also occurs in version 1.7 on the N900

I just tested it with 1.7 on the N900, and it does not crash for me.

[WhiteWolf]

Confirmed

V1.7 output for my N900

Init: 0x46567270
**
ERROR:dbus-gproxy.c:2269:dbus_g_proxy_marshal_args_to_message : code should not be reached
Aborted