[KDE] Painfully Slow and Incorrect

[onlyone0001]

I installed KDE (not v2,since it's saying that you should be booting from SD, and using N810, didn't much make sense to me) and it's both very slow (A browser should open in 2-3 seconds, but Konqueror takes even 20 seconds!) it does and the windows are not rendered correctly - i mean that for example for a lot of applications' settings' windows, it doesn't scroll down, for example Kontact) Should i try v2, is it only to me or will it be always like this?

[albright]

Should i try v2, is it only to me or will it be always like this?

Your issues are not "corrected" in v2. If you demand that your
browser open in 2-3 seconds then kde on tablet is not for
you. I find konqueror opens in under 15seconds FWIW.

Also, I find the maemo browser in hildon takes 7+ seconds
to open a blank web page, so I guess the n810 is not for
you either.

Or does your maemo browser really open that fast (2-3 secs).
If so, have you any special settings you could share?

[onlyone0001]

Maybe opening for the first time after a reboot takes more, but maemo browser does open that fast for me, using the default page (Mozilla/Nokia/Google page) . It gets better after opening it more, must be about the cache.

By the way, KDE got a little faster after a sequence of changing the settings and rebooting.

[brecklundin]

Maybe opening for the first time after a reboot takes more, but maemo browser does open that fast for me, using the default page (Mozilla/Nokia/Google page) . It gets better after opening it more, must be about the cache.

By the way, KDE got a little faster after a sequence of changing the settings and rebooting.


ummmm...I noticed that the default "home page" is on the device in I forget what directory. But it's a local file. Not sure if the graphics are local too, I never checked.

[penguinbait]

I installed KDE (not v2,since it's saying that you should be booting from SD, and using N810, didn't much make sense to me) and it's both very slow (A browser should open in 2-3 seconds, but Konqueror takes even 20 seconds!) it does and the windows are not rendered correctly - i mean that for example for a lot of applications' settings' windows, it doesn't scroll down, for example Kontact) Should i try v2, is it only to me or will it be always like this?



Well obviously there are trade offs with using KDE, while being 1000% more functional than standard hildon desktop, its still a Desktop Environment written for faster machines with bigger monitors. KDE has some issues on the. IT but what do you expect, it was not written for 800x480. I only compiled, I did not change it. v2 would be no different from your point of view.

[Benson]

Maybe opening for the first time after a reboot takes more, but maemo browser does open that fast for me, using the default page (Mozilla/Nokia/Google page) . It gets better after opening it more, must be about the cache.

Links2: Blazing Fast! (http://mail.google.com: 2 sec.) From scratch.

MicroB, launching with no browser windows open: 14 sec.
MicroB, spawning new browser window: 3 sec.

A window can take ~7 sec. to spawn, if the browser is swapped (I assume). But never if you've already got MicroB in foreground.
I've got some extensions running, which slow initial startup. These are all to built-in page, whose whereabouts I'm uncertain of, else I'd have used it for Links2 as well.

[TA-t3]

Links2: Blazing Fast! (http://mail.google.com: 2 sec.) From scratch.

MicroB, launching with no browser windows open: 14 sec.
MicroB, spawning new browser window: 3 sec.

Opera, launching with no browser windows open, OS2007: ~ 4 sec.

[penguinbait]

Seriously guys, put KDE on a PC with 128MB RAM, see how it runs.

I like the statment in the manual from my new Jeep Wrangler.

"system cannot prevent the natural laws of physics from acting on the vehicle."


Seriously its KDE its not pixie dust!!!!

[sherifnix]

We need an ARM Cortex tablet !

[sungrove]

Seriously guys, put KDE on a PC with 128MB RAM, see how it runs.

I like the statment in the manual from my new Jeep Wrangler.

"system cannot prevent the natural laws of physics from acting on the vehicle."


Seriously its KDE its not pixie dust!!!!

I'm sympatico, PB. Really, I kind of can't believe onlyone had the heart / nerve to write this thread. I didn't want to say anything, and I have no idea what the details are, but does anyone think PB is actually making financial headway on this venture? I know maybe a few people have helped him financially, but I'd be willing to bet that the time put into this by him far outweighs any cash he's getting out of it. I for one, am happy that KDE does anything for me. If you want it to go faster, put it in a speeding car or throw it out the window.:) But I also think it could be that onlyone may be onlyoneofthefew that is unhappy apparently with KDE being on their tablet. Options there: delete, move on.

Neil

BTW-Penguinbait, I remember a Lawyer who did a show here in Seattle. He would give people general legal advise. He would start every show with something like ' liablity for the legal advise given during this show is strickly limited to what you have paid for the show' Perhaps a reword could adapt that as a disclaimer for KDE on the NIT ?

[TA-t3]

Seriously guys, put KDE on a PC with 128MB RAM, see how it runs.
I did, back in 2001.. KDE version 1.x first, then version 2 (V2 was possibly worse RAM-wise than V3.x). Actually it was 64MB I think. Anyway, what I had to do was to replace the RAM and stuff in 384MB (max. for that machine), just to get out of swapping hell! :)

[penguinbait]

I'm sympatico, PB. Really, I kind of can't believe onlyone had the heart / nerve to write this thread. I didn't want to say anything, and I have no idea what the details are, but does anyone think PB is actually making financial headway on this venture? I know maybe a few people have helped him financially, but I'd be willing to bet that the time put into this by him far outweighs any cash he's getting out of it. I for one, am happy that KDE does anything for me. If you want it to go faster, put it in a speeding car or throw it out the window.:) But I also think it could be that onlyone may be onlyoneofthefew that is unhappy apparently with KDE being on their tablet. Options there: delete, move on.

Neil

BTW-Penguinbait, I remember a Lawyer who did a show here in Seattle. He would give people general legal advise. He would start every show with something like ' liablity for the legal advise given during this show is strickly limited to what you have paid for the show' Perhaps a reword could adapt that as a disclaimer for KDE on the NIT ?


Its funny you should point this out, somebody else was thinking I am making all kinds of money off this.

I have to date recieved $273.58 in donations. Well maybe a little more, thats the amount I got after paypal got thier cut. Over the past 2 years playing with CUPS, KDE and everything else. I dont know the exact amount either, but I am sure I put more than 273 hours in. So I am making less than a dollar an hour, for work put in, from the way I look at it. ;)

Actually, from the way I really look at it, is this all done because I wanted to have an alternate option to Hildon. It has CUPS because I wanted to print. Selfish huh :) I never intended to even ask for donations, but the community kept harrassing me to put one up, so I finally did, about a month ago. I have been completely amazed at the support coming in from around the WORLD. And even you Neil :)


So I have used so far 73$ for donations to some others. I have spent about 90$ for the year for my web service at tablethacker.com, which was a complete waste of money. Never host your website at siteground.com (They SUCK, as you are all aware) (sorry about all the half of files :eek: )



So I appreciate all the support, I welcome all the help, and suggestions. If you want to donate? time spent helping in the forum's, or hacking things to be better, is more usefull than actual cash donations, but those are very appreciated also.


Its been a fun ride, and it aint over yet.