[Canola] YouTube Canola2 Plug-in

[Reggie]

Marcelo of iNdT gives us a preview of the upcoming YouTube Canloa2 plug-in. The plug-in lets you search videos, view by catergory, most viewed, and would even lat you bookmark videos. It streams videos more fluidly compared with viewing YouTube on the browser. This is definitely something every internet tablet user will be looking forward to. I just hope it will play the lower or higher resolution version of the videos automatically based on your internet connection speed, just like how the iPhone does it.Read the full article. (http://www.internettablettalk.com/2008/02/24/youtube-canola2-plug-in/)

[Reggie]

I guess the main question a lot will be asking is, when is it coming out? :)

[Scarflash]

Man that's fly, oh and when is it coming out?

[Aisu]

Whoa...

This is so awesome. iNdT, you guys are great. I can't think of much else to say, except...

Thank you!!!

[raulito]

Very nice. :)

[handful]

Well, the plan was to release this friday, But I guess we will stop ALL features to make sure every bug is ironed out as hard as possible.

The last.fm I already tested, as able to browse some radios (we are not supporting the paid option) and did some streamings, while the scroble is on the list. So if we manage to have it "ok" until wed, you get it on friday, but my real guess is in the other friday (1st week of march? )

:)

[mobiledivide]

This looks great, it will be interesting to see these plugins as they come out.

[Mika73]

Very nice :)

So it will be plugin/addon, not part of main Canola software.

[sherifnix]

This is excellent news :) Looks great guys, keep it up!

[crabolsky]

Daddy Likes!

Very nice interface. This will definitely help to make canola an all in one entertainment app. Keep up the great work. I would love to play around with this now if you need any testers ???

[handful]

It will be available on the site for download :)
on the Add on sections :)

[vvaz]

Wow. At last YT interface which doesn't suck (*including* regular web site).

[missaghi]

whenever i have to face off with an iphone my n800 loses on youtube simplicity (and making phone calls), this will even the playing field!

[asqwasqw]

hmmm, i notice the blue background, or at least i think it is, and no orange =) yay
also, the app looks great keep up the good work

[handful]

asq : blue ? =) it's the grey one :) I changed the blue's orange a little bit today but still there :) ehhehe

[fredoll]

Do you have any date for releasing the plugin API so we can start and contribute ? I'd love to get phonelink integrated into this ...

[handful]

fredoll,

We have planned 2 big updates one before the bossa conference and one after it, but I really don't know the days exactly, but Ulisses is ironing out the bugs to provide something quite useful and easy to use. My problem is really time / people to document, but we will do our best!

Marcelo

[Nif]

I am just trying my luck here, but will the youtube plugin become available today?

[fredoll]

I'll be waiting eagerly for a plugin spec so ...
And example ...

[handful]

HI Guys, sorry but now,

Youtube is actually the proof of the "work" of the pluginspec fredoll, and we plan to use it as the example so you will have a quite nice example.

Sorry for that, but we have some "paralell" projects (to pay the bills) and the guy who takes care of youtube is working hard on the other... but just on this 3 days, so our plan for next week still up :)

Br

[Aisu]

Hey, Marc!

Just wanted to make a little suggestion (you guys probably thought of it already though, usually do ;)). But, from the YT plugin, could there be an option to save the movie to the tablet? Been using different websites to do it because UKTube is not working for some reason... Thanks a lot. :)

[handful]

Hi Aisu!

Actually is there already, I showed on the video :))) take a look into the 1:20 mark, there's the option already in the menu (I actually click it ) : save to disk.

There only catch is that you need to download (watch it) fully to be able to save it.

Cheers :)

[fredoll]

HI Guys, sorry but now,

Youtube is actually the proof of the "work" of the pluginspec fredoll, and we plan to use it as the example so you will have a quite nice example.

Br

That's fine with me : there is no such thing as a good example ...

Thanks for the good work

Fred

[asqwasqw]

er... um..... so then....
how much longer....?

[MurphysPub]

I hope we'll be seeing the carman, and maemo mapper plugins that were shown off in those other videos of the nokia concept car. This looks like a great plugin that will only increase the wow factor that everyone I show it too gets, but I'd really make some sales if I could show off those other plugins. (My friends love cars, but don't have a lot of money and would love this to be a car PC).

[asqwasqw]

@ jOe. maybe not a car pc, but definitly can give you some readouts... nothing hardcore...

[handful]

@asq : we have two more releases coming, so maximum in the 2nd release :)

[ShayneOSU]

Are we still on track to see the Youtube plugin tomorrow?? I can't wait to impress all of my friends! :D

[handful]

Shayne : sorry not tomorrow :/ we need to deploy to you guys first a "huge" update, then we will post youtube on the site. We are testing like crazy, since 2 days ago because the guys changed a lot of core stuff, and we don't want to "break" on the face of users that are not facing breaks like this :) so forgive us .. but again we don't want make wrong moves at this stage. (also we are taking the time to improve the youtube list of videos. as it has a lot of details, it's not as fast as we want : / )

But good news : Podcast will have a really nice set of features
Youtube save feature is working nicely!
Last.fm is "complete" with audioscrobbling (download is not supported so we don't get in trouble with the service)
Blue theme is integrated, theming "tool" is finally on the oven, Developer support is getting closer to be "ready to test" (actually send a email if you want to test it first) and several bugs were ironed out.

Let's see how it goes, but I think next week is a good week for Canola :)

[abrilc]

Thanks for the good work.

We will be awaiting for the release ;).

Cheers from Spain.

[sxm]

will this next update, not the addon, include support for flv files? i would love to see files i already have/downloaded to be shown on the canola

[sherifnix]

will this next update, not the addon, include support for flv files? i would love to see files i already have/downloaded to be shown on the canola

yerp thats a function of mplayer!

[handful]

You can already do that now, with the dumb "profile" of lms, adding the extension, but yes we will add the flv there also :) like sherifnix said, mplayer is the player, when we mean supported is "scanned" and added to the database : )

Br

Marcelo

[Nif]

Hi Handful,

Where exactly is this profile file located?

[asqwasqw]

so how about you guys release that addon now =P

[handful]

asqwasqw : it's almost midnight here and we are still working on that.
Damn it all the food places around a closed : /

:)

marcelo

[asqwasqw]

hmmm, then we'll send you mail order steaks =P

[handful]

:) thanks dude I managed to find a cheese somewhere :)))

[Red]

handful, I am really looking forward to the new release. I'm not going to badger you about a release date; getting it right is more important than getting it quickly, so take your time and for heaven's sake don't forget to sleep!

I just wanted to say that I really, really like the way canola is going. I think you guys have a very clear vision of what you want to do, and are very, very good at doing it.

Keep up the good work.

[handful]

@Red, yeah red, thanks for the support. The important thing is that. I know a guy release a youtube browsing application (gtk and python) and I read there " you punched canola on this one) and I really don't take it as bad thing :) we are keen on details, and for example the api used there didn't passed our tests so we did another one, and it's also going open source for people wanting to test.

People should realize (some people actually) that we are a small team, working hard, and with a huge list of priorities. So much that we admit that we cannot do everything and now we want to give others the chance to their own plugins.

youtube was " ready " since almost 1 week and a half ago, it actually took 3 days to have it running. But we respect our " future " fellow developers of plugins that we are reviewing, improving and making at least sure most of videos will play (mplayer has some issues)

So, we get criticized, but we don't care because we know that there's a few but patient amount of users that really enjoy the software and like you seems to know that we have a clear gol. We are humans we do wrong stuff (for god sake look at canola1) :) and we are improving as day go by.

The team is commited, I have probably some guys going to other projects but new guys arriving, and I think we have a long path over the year. I think that in june, we will have so much stuff done (extra) that people will really have a hard time finding " missing " features compared to others or to their needs :)

*how to do that without cluttering the ui? :) that's my personal and my team's challenge :)

[TTgowings]

Looks as if you and your whole crew have rally been at it for over a month, maye take all your employees' out fror a nice day or dinner or omething for you all to to do annd really enjoys yourselves then have to come back home and listen to our mutter...

I've still got only 2 complaintsf from me, and here's the firsr one, would be a great plugin to have that would either show albmum art while playing or the weird pics they do no stad-by' PC have while they are playing songs.

3. Would be reall nice if Canola could do something cool with the on-screen visiuals, I know what we talked about along ways back that with the current veriosn that it just ate p u too much cpu cycle it Is a good kit,

4. And here's mine. Am still having issues with DL fpod/vod casts from my favorit sites, I do blieve you said awhile back that it would be ready for this last thing but maybe you ran int more screen or cpu probs. I just need a nice clean way to grab my pod and videocasts (I've almost though to go back with the vieocenter. eeks.

[handful]

Hi Ttgowing :

We are planning one dinner :) but actually we are relaxing a lot in bossa conference (today a lot of great talks by Alp (webkit) Oyvind (Clutter) Raster(Efl) Cris(cairo) Oliva and Toughtfix.

We want to do this eye candy :) believe me, the thing is really time, there's so much needing our attentions (the weird bug on playback etc) that we are just posponing.

Videocast are not supported now. they will but they are not. but tells me your favotire site for PODCAST again that we will try to help and fix it!

Marcelo

[asqwasqw]

so, whats the timeframe on this thing...?

[handful]

asq: depends. We release when we think is at least usable and will generate only a "reasonable" amount of bugs (what's a reasonable amount? )

But anyways, we just got back from the conference, now hand on it again, let's rush. It can be friday, it can be tuesday, but I really don't think passes next week not in the worst case (finding a crashing bug today, that nobody can trace it ) :)

Marcelo

[TTgowings]

Mostly the vidcasts I use are from Revision3 (http://revision3.com/) and the one's I use most are Tekzilla (http://revision3.com/tekzilla), The Digg Reel (http://revision3.com/diggreel) and Systm (http://revision3.com/systm), I also watch DL.TV (http://dl.tv/) on occasion as well.

Most of these feeds are from the people who used to be on the now defunct G4 (http://www.g4tv.com/)/TechTV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TechTV)/ZD TV (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TechTV#ZDTV) Cable channel, Call for Help, The ScreenSavers etc.

Thanks again Handful.

[asqwasqw]

so then i figure, oh 4-7 days?

[yabbas]

We're all impatiently waiting, lol

just because we love your work guys! :D

[handful]

Surprise,
we already uploaded it :) have fun!

Known issues: the seek is not there (you can see on the other youtube player that this is a issue) with the FLV files. Sorry for that.

Marcelo

[RipTorn]

Great, thanks will be checking it out as soon as I can install :)

[handful]

Hi everyone!

The youtube plugin is already done, but please do the following :

(THIS IS MANDATORY FOR THIS RELEASE) DO IT IN THE FOLLOWING SEQUENCE :

1) Update or install Canola beta7 ( has the fix to allow youtube)
2) Update all the themes you use ( we uploaded new versions )

ONLY THEN YOU INSTALL YOUTUBE :

3) Install Canola-youtube plugin

IF YOU DON'T DO IT LIKE THAT ... WELL YOU KNOW :)

Then you are ready to go.

Release notes:

Source code for the youtube plugin is available on the website on the developer's corner.

:)

[RipTorn]

Thanks!! I am having trouble updating my repository from maemo (sooo slow) soon as I do I'll be very happy :D

[briand]

...okay, I figured out why this thing is called Canola.

it's because it's the slickest application around for the NIT!

thanks for another great addition to an already great application!

[RipTorn]

Sweet, just finished having a quick play, one of the best youtube players I have seen, and I love the download feature that makes it a breeze to save the video.

Thanks!

[tuukos]

Very cool! :-)

I like the 'Save to disk' option for the YouTube videos... But I notice it saves them to the ~/.canola folder on the flash disk (which could fill up pretty quick) and I missed any option to set a new default download location?

Right now I am using a symbolic link that points ~/.canola/youtube/videos to my internal SD card... Appears to work OK... But am I missing something in Settings menu?

Thanks for a nifty add-on!

[solico]

normally I'm much more a reader than a writer, but downloading this piece of software and trying it...it has to be said:
Thank you Canola-Team.
simply loving this new plugin

Please keep up this good work.
It is much appreciated.

[Glenn7500]

:)This Canola2 Team is BADASS!!!!!:)

Thanks so much for your HARD WORK!

[drizek]

can you add an option to list searches by Date Added?

And thanks so much for all the cool stuff.

[desiv]

Wow!
Youtube on my 770.
Nice!!!
Thanx!!

desiv
(A little slow to start playing the video, but great once going!!!!)

Oh.. I ran out of disk space. :-) Where does it cache it's files? I'll start some cleanup.

[slvr32]

Very cool! :-)

I like the 'Save to disk' option for the YouTube videos... But I notice it saves them to the ~/.canola folder on the flash disk (which could fill up pretty quick) and I missed any option to set a new default download location?

Right now I am using a symbolic link that points ~/.canola/youtube/videos to my internal SD card... Appears to work OK... But am I missing something in Settings menu?

Thanks for a nifty add-on!

Hmm... this might be a related question :)

I was browsing for a few youtube videos, and i ran across a 'no space left on device' error... while trying to play one particular video. So I guess the question is... is there a configurable option to set aside a particular file area/card to use for temporary space?

I looked at my disk usage, and nothing was quite filled up when I was getting the error, so I'm not sure that the actual problem wasn't something else... maybe network/latency issues? But... I'm asking the question... in case this happens to ring any bells... as to what might be going wrong and how to fix it.

all that said... canola keeps getting better with every release... been updating every release since beta3 :)

[desiv]

slvr32 (and whoever else might be interested)

It looks like the videos are stored here:

/home/user/.canola/youtube/videos

I'll try to symlink it to my memory card to save some space (and maybe speed it up?).

desiv

[handful]

hi guys, sorry for not adding the menu to save to folders : / it was a must to have it there. I am asking the guys to write the support for it asap. Also for podcast.
Also I will make sure there's a way to avoid going to the home folder.

We just cannot "hard code" it to the removable disk because some users don't have and we want to make the simple ui (choose the downloads folder) but still if we did it test wouldincrease so much, that we decided to leave this to next week :

sorry for the annoyance : /

[desiv]

No big deal.
It's still great to have this!!

Also, for now, the symlink works.

I just created a dir called videos in a tmp folder. Then I did:
cd /home/user/.canola/youtube
ln -s /media/mmc1/tmp/videos videos

(I think I did a "rmdir videos" first, to delete the original videos dir.)

Works great!!

desiv

[extremefire]

It is a small annoyance to an otherwise awesome piece of software. It will be nice when we can specify a folder so that we can download larger YT files.

Canola is definietly my show off piece when someone wants to see my N800, and it just keeps getting better. Keep up the great work

[handful]

@extreme: I know, I already apollogized (I know it s*** to hear so much apologies ) and we are working on it for podcast and the youtube. I will push it really hard this week so we have this asap. Don't worry we are not trying to pass this one, we really know how important this is.. and how to do it.

@desiv : thanks for sharing to the others: )

[sachin007]

What is symlink. can someone help me with changing the directory to one of the cards?

linux noob here. thanks

[anidel]

Mine won't play videos! I just hear the audio :/
Damn...

[qwerty12]

What is symlink. can someone help me with changing the directory to one of the cards?

linux noob here. thanks

Just do what desiv said. Worked for me.

@anidel

Odd, sound works for me. I just tried it in russian mafia...

[anidel]

@qwerty12

sound is the only thing I get. I do have latest MPlayer installed.
Actually I might have codecs issues ? I can't play videos from VideoCenter either (the one Nokia suggests!) with Media Player.

[qwerty12]

@qwerty12

sound is the only thing I get. I do have latest MPlayer installed.
Actually I might have codecs issues ? I can't play videos from VideoCenter either (the one Nokia suggests!) with Media Player.

Oops, I misread post. Sorry.

mplayer 26 which is the latest fixes a canola problem.

What is your "vo" line in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf?

And if exists, in ~/.mplayer/config

I have to wait about 10 seconds before video shows. Do you have the rotation patch for OS2008 installed too?

[munky261]

is there any way to get it to download a video completely before it starts playing .... its quite choppy for me if it plays while still downloading

[munky261]

i tried making the symbolic link but its still downloading to the youtube folder in the canola directory... any ideas?

[mobiledivide]

i tried making the symbolic link but its still downloading to the youtube folder in the canola directory... any ideas?

I used these instructions from the other thread word for word and it works flawlessly.



open an x-term shell: you are in your home direcory now.
cd .canola/youtube
create a new youtube-temp-directory, e.g. on /media/mmc2:
mkdir /media/mmc2/youtube-temp
now the "crucial part": this one deletes your normal canola temp-dir
rm -r videos
and now we create a symbolic link called "videos" which points to our newly created temp dir:
ln -s /media/mmc2/youtube-temp videos
(in caps this would be LN not 1N)

after this you should be able to do a
cd videos
echo 1 > 1

and if you open your filemanager and go to the folder in which the youtube temp-files should be stored (internal mem. card/youtube-temp)
you should see a very small file called "1" now.
Delete it, as we don't need it anymore and test your youtube videos...


To revert this change:
=================

open an x-term shell: you are in your home direcory now.
cd .canola/youtube
rm videos
mkdir videos

this will only delete the *link*, so your "new" youtube-temp directory is still there and can be deleted.

[desiv]

Well,
1) You can be patient and wait for the next release, which will probably be pretty soon. These guys are fast.
or..
2) We can troubleshoot symlinks!!! Yeay troubleshooting!!!

Since you chose option 2, (you did, right?) we can continue...

Open your terminal program and type:
ls -al /home/user/.canola/youtube

It should look something like this:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 user users 23 Mar 20 20:40 videos -> /media/mmc1/tmp/videos/

desiv
p.s. Yes, I cut out the lines from my ls that didn't relate...

[amigokin]

mplayer 26 which is the latest fixes a canola problem.

Where can I download the last version of mplayer?

Thanks in advance!

[munky261]

i got it workin , had a bout of cranial flatulence...thanks guys:)

one other request for handful , if its possible , could you guys make it show the length of the videos by the star rating or whereever. would be a great help for me when looking for certain vids

[handful]

Munky : we had this info, we are actually removing some info to allow the list to scroll, a little bit of more information really kills the performance. sorry for that detail, we will try to add in future versions.

MArcelo

[munky261]

well how bout removing the star rating , which i feel is very unnecessary and perhaps even the number of views... i feel and so do most peoples opinion i ask that the length of the video is more important information than the stars or # of hits

[handful]

@munky, yeah, that could be a solution. If more people request that we will surely consider changing.

Marcelo

[briand]

requesting it.

True, it's sometimes nice to know the "star rating" and/or the number of views to help select something from the list... but, it's also handy to know, without having to download it and start it playing, that what you thought was a 2-minute video clip is actually an hour-and-a-half video.

[Mattan]

Handful : Thanks for a great plugg-in and the new addon skins are just awsome.
But should we just get this great software for free ?
Can´t you make a way so we could sponsore with some money for this.

[muki]

I also would prefer to see the video length before deciding to view it.

[nspeer]

No big deal.
It's still great to have this!!

Also, for now, the symlink works.

I just created a dir called videos in a tmp folder. Then I did:
cd /home/user/.canola/youtube
ln -s /media/mmc1/tmp/videos videos

(I think I did a "rmdir videos" first, to delete the original videos dir.)

Works great!!

desiv

I am trying to remove the one video I saved to disk as I keep getting an error message saying there is no more space on the device. I am unable to remove the video directory as explained above because it says the directory is not empty. How do I remove the video that is in the directory. . . PLEASE BE SPECIFIC...I DON'T KNOW LINUX WELL.
thanks,
Neil

[sachin007]

I am trying to remove the one video I saved to disk as I keep getting an error message saying there is no more space on the device. I am unable to remove the video directory as explained above because it says the directory is not empty. How do I remove the video that is in the directory. . . PLEASE BE SPECIFIC...I DON'T KNOW LINUX WELL.
thanks,
Neil

Copied from another post!!! Try this as is

for those of you who want to try it (on risk and so on, and *remember* that you did this change, so you can revert it when canola has a folder chooser for this)

open an x-term shell: you are in your home direcory now.
cd .canola/youtube
create a new youtube-temp-directory, e.g. on /media/mmc2:
mkdir /media/mmc2/youtube-temp
now the "crucial part": this one deletes your normal canola temp-dir
rm -r videos
and now we create a symbolic link called "videos" which points to our newly created temp dir:
ln -s /media/mmc2/youtube-temp videos
(in caps this would be LN not 1N)

after this you should be able to do a
cd videos
echo 1 > 1

and if you open your filemanager and go to the folder in which the youtube temp-files should be stored (internal mem. card/youtube-temp)
you should see a very small file called "1" now.
Delete it, as we don't need it anymore and test your youtube videos...


To revert this change:
=================

open an x-term shell: you are in your home direcory now.
cd .canola/youtube
rm videos
mkdir videos

this will only delete the *link*, so your "new" youtube-temp directory is still there and can be deleted.

[briand]

I am trying to remove the one video I saved to disk as I keep getting an error message saying there is no more space on the device. I am unable to remove the video directory as explained above because it says the directory is not empty. How do I remove the video that is in the directory. . . PLEASE BE SPECIFIC...I DON'T KNOW LINUX WELL.


Neil -- no problem. :)

Let's say you want to make your youtube video directory on your external SD card (/media/mmc1):

mkdir /media/mmc1/youtube

this will create the directory. Now, we'll move the already collected files in your canola youtube directory there:

mv /home/user/.canola/youtube/videos/* /media/mmc1/youtube/

that'll put everything you've collected so far into the new directory. Now that the directory is empty, you can remove it:

rmdir /home/user/.canola/youtube/videos/

now, just create the link:

ln -s /media/mmc1/youtube/ /home/user/.canola/youtube/videos/

when you next start up canola, it'll find all the stuff you've previously saved there, in the new directory. :)

[nspeer]

thank Briand

I had a problem.
First line of code worked. But when I type

mv /home/users/.canola/youtube/videos/* /media/mmc1/youtube/

the reply is mv: unable to rename /home/users/.canola/youtube/videos/* ' : No such file or directory
mv: unable to rename /home/users ' : No such file


what's up?
Neil

[desiv]

nspeer,

Let's see what you've got in that directory. Type this:
ls /home/users/.canola/youtube/videos -al
(The -al will give you more information, and include possible hidden files/dirs)

It sounds like that directory might already be empty..

desiv

[bayowar]

Try /home/user/... instead of /home/users/...

At least that's the home directory on os2008.

[nspeer]

Try /home/user/... instead of /home/users/...

At least that's the home directory on os2008.

I just tried the above suggestion.

Reply is mv: unable to rename /home/user/.canola/youtube/videos/*' :no such file or directory

However, I just used the filemanager and found that my Memory Card now indeed does have a folder named youtube and there are some files in it.

Now what?
Neil

Neil

[desiv]

Well,

Next, I'd ask you to do an "ls" on the original directory to see if it's empty...

Oh, wait, I did ask that. :-)

If it's already empty and those are the correct directory names (You'd find that out by doing an "ls" :-), you go to the next steps on the directions:
------------------------------------------------------------------
rmdir /home/users/.canola/youtube/videos/

now, just create the link:

ln -s /home/users/.canola/youtube/videos/ /media/mmc1/youtube/
------------------------------------------------------------------

desiv

p.s. Remember to be careful with rm, rmdir and mv. Those commands remove things, so you want to be sure you're removing the right things. Spaces, /'s, .'s, are all very important!!

[nspeer]

Neil -- no problem. :)

Let's say you want to make your youtube video directory on your external SD card (/media/mmc1):

mkdir /media/mmc1/youtube

this will create the directory. Now, we'll move the already collected files in your canola youtube directory there:

mv /home/users/.canola/youtube/videos/* /media/mmc1/youtube/

that'll put everything you've collected so far into the new directory. Now that the directory is empty, you can remove it:

rmdir /home/users/.canola/youtube/videos/

now, just create the link:

ln -s /home/users/.canola/youtube/videos/ /media/mmc1/youtube/

when you next start up canola, it'll find all the stuff you've previously saved there, in the new directory. :)

OK, I just typed ln -s /home/users/.canola/youtube/videos/ /media/mmc1/youtube/

the reply was ln: /media/mmc1/youtube/videos: operation not permitted

What's wrong?
thanks for your help,
Neil

[desiv]

OK, this is going to sound crazy, but let's try this. Type:

ls /home/users/.canola/youtube/videos -al

I know, it's something that's off the wall and never been suggested before, but humor me.

:-) :-)

desiv

[briand]

are you at the $ prompt, or the # prompt?

[desiv]

Hey, briand's instructions are backwards.

You typed this:

ln -s /home/users/.canola/youtube/videos/ /media/mmc1/youtube/

You need to type this:
ln -s /media/mmc1/youtube /home/users/.canola/youtube/videos

I didn't catch it that those instructions were backwards.

The format is:
ln -s <source> <destination>

desiv

[briand]

grr... okay. sorry about that. i waas working from memory, and apparently suffered an internal segfault.

[nspeer]

Hey, briand's instructions are backwards.

You typed this:

ln -s /home/users/.canola/youtube/videos/ /media/mmc1/youtube/

You need to type this:
ln -s /media/mmc1/youtube /home/users/.canola/youtube/videos

I didn't catch it that those instructions were backwards.

The format is:
ln -s <source> <destination>

desiv

Just tried that. There is supposed to be a space after -s isn't there?
I also typed a space after /media/mmc1/youtube was I supposed to?

reply is ln: /home/users/.canola/youtube/videos: No such file or directory

thanks for your help but still stumped.
Neil

[desiv]

Yes, there are spaces, they just don't show up well because of the fonts.

I'm thinking maybe a bad mv earlier might have done something.
I know you don't want to, but you''re going to have to do some ls's to find this out.

Let's start with:

ls /home/users/.canola

And see if there is a youtube directory there.

If not, try the same with "user" instead of "users".

desiv
p.s "ls" can be your friend. :-)

[nspeer]

Yes, there are spaces, they just don't show up well because of the fonts.

I'm thinking maybe a bad mv earlier might have done something.
I know you don't want to, but you''re going to have to do some ls's to find this out.

Let's start with:

ls /home/users/.canola

And see if there is a youtube directory there.

If not, try the same with "user" instead of "users".

desiv
p.s "ls" can be your friend. :-)

OK, with your help, I may be getting somewhere. I hope this is instructive for other members as well.

When I typed ls/ home/users/.canola the reply is No such file or directory

But, when I typed ls /home/user/.canola the reply is a list (of directories or folders?) that looks like this

canola.db prefs version
covers theme video_thumbs
plugins.pickle tmp youtube


So, should I follow your previous direction (suggesting I reverse the source and destination) using the work "user" instead of "users" ?

thanks

[desiv]

Yep, that's it.
It looks like the videos directory is already gone.
So you should just have to do the new ln, with the word user.

desiv

p.s. Yeah, it's /home/user/.canola on my tablet.

[desiv]

grr... okay. sorry about that. i was working from memory, and apparently suffered an internal segfault.

No prob. I run a constant state of kernel panic at work myself. :-)

Just a thought, could you edit your original post that had that to show the correct ln format, and also change the "users" to "user", to save some other newbies.

Although, I think it's been pretty educational, so maybe not. :-)

Take it easy.

desiv
;)

[nspeer]

desiv, thanks for taking the time to help me. I really appreciate it. That seemed to have worked...at least I didn't get an error reply.

However, I still get a "no space left on device" error message far too often when trying to play a video. Not sure why as there is plenty of space on my MMC card and that's where everything should be cached if I did eveything correctly.


Guess this is one for the developers.
Neil

[desiv]

Well, to double check you need to do a two things:

ls -al /home/user/.canola/youtube

That will let you know if your link is working.

Also, do a:

df -h

That will tell you what the system thinks you have for free disk space.

Good luck.

desiv

[nspeer]

[QUOTE=desiv;158903]Well, to double check you need to do a two things:

ls -al /home/user/.canola/youtube

That will let you know if your link is working.

Also, do a:

df -h

That will tell you what the system thinks you have for free disk space.

Good luck.[/quote/}


OK, I did your first instruction and got this reply

drwxrwxrwx 4 user users 0 Mar 21
23:28
drwxrwxrwx 8 user users 0 Mar 22
14:56


etc, etc

Is that what it sould look like?
Neil

[nspeer]

and just did a df -h
Got this reply

Filesystem Size Used Available Use % Mou
nted on
/dev/mtdblock4 2.0M 2.0M 0 100% /mn
t/initfs
none 512k 28.0k 484.0k 5% /mn
t/initfs/tmp
/dev/mtdblock4 123.5M 115.4M 8.1M 93% /none 512.0k 28.0k 484.0k 5%
/tmp
none 1.0M 44.0M 980.0k 4%
/dev
/dev/mmcblk0p1 979.7M 598.7M 381.0M 61%
/media/mmc1


What in the world does all that mean?!
Neil

[desiv]

As for the ls, it depends on the "etc. etc".. :-)

You should see a line that says something like this:
lrwxrwxrwx 1 user users 23 Mar 20 20:40 videos -> /media/mmc1/tmp/videos/

That shows that the link is there and what it points to.

As for your df, the important ones show that your memory card is 61% used (sounds like plenty of space there) and your root filesystem (/) is 93% used.
You only have 8.1 MB free.

That's a bit tight, but as long as the link is working, you should be OK, unless Canola caches somewhere else.

desiv

p.s. The df -h is easier to read if you go full screen. You can read the legend at the top and it's all lined up and you can see what the columns are.

[nspeer]

So, would removing un-used applications free up more space on the root file system?

[desiv]

Yes,
Especially if you mostly went with default installs.

You can go into Application Manager and look at installed software and it'll show you what each application is taking.

Then you can choose to uninstall something from there.

One thing that nailed me when I was first using my tablet was Maemo mapper.
I put my maps on my memory card. But then I redownloaded map repositories and wasn't paying attention and when I downloaded new maps, they went to the regular filesystem. That didn't take too long to fill up my 770. :-)

desiv

WARNING, serious GEEK-NERD hint ahead!!!
OK, if you want, you can go into a terminal and type this: (It's tricky!!!)

du -h | grep [0-9][M,G]

OK, after the "-h" is a space and then a "pipe", it's available with the onscreen keyboard under "Symbols".
Basically, it will look in all the directories from your current path (should be /home/user) down and give you file sizes for each directory, but since that would be WAY too much info, we pipe it into grep.
"grep" is pretty easy to understand. It's basically the GOD of command line!!! All HAIL GREP!!! :-)

OK, what that does is show you just the lines that have a number [0-9] followed by either the M or the G [M,G].
So, you'll only see entries like:
1.0M ./.canola/covers
1.5M ./.canola
Which means my canola directory and all its subdirectories is 1.5M in size, and the directory covers inside .canola is 1M of that.

Usually, I'll do a du -h --max-depth=1 on a Linux box, but the 770 dh command doesn't understand the max-depth option. (Don't list subdirectories more than the max-depth)
(sorry, I was feeling extra nerdy and couldn't help myself. :-)

[briand]

No prob. I run a constant state of kernel panic at work myself. :-)

Just a thought, could you edit your original post that had that to show the correct ln format, and also change the "users" to "user", to save some other newbies.


Okay, done. :)


Although, I think it's been pretty educational, so maybe not. :-)


Too late. The educational aspect is good, but your original thought regarding folks reading up to (but not beyond) that post before acting on the instructions, is sound. We don't want to have to confuse more new folks any more than necessary... ;)

[intersys]

Discovered a strange problem. I have Canola2 beta 7 working perfectly on my N770. Installed the YouTube Plug-in...connected to the web. Anything I try with the plug-in (search, featured, etc.) I get unkown error. Looked in home/user - there's no .canola dir. Anybody have any thoughts?

Thanks

[handful]

Inter: the person who was having this, I asked him to go to the web browser, try opening any page (youtube.com as example) and do a search there.
Also, the old windows style : reboot. It worked for them, can you see if works for you?

the .canola dir is hidden it will not show on the file manager, only via xterm / ssh

Marcelo

[intersys]

Got it! - I had to do 2 uninstalls and reinstalls. Third time did it - working now.

Thank You


Marcelo:

I can search OK from the browser. Tried rebooting - still no go. I went in through xterm and checked....still no .canola dir.

Unintalled the plug-in, re-booted, and re-installed....still no luck. I do have a canola-conf.log file though but it's empty.

Thanks for the reply

[asqwasqw]

so for mplayer, how do you permanently set the audio lag, i'v having trouble because they are set to about half a second of lag, what do i do?
sorta unrelated...

[desiv]

... I went in through xterm and checked....still no .canola dir.

Just a heads up, in case.

If you search from xterm (I'm assuming you used "ls") for a hidden directory, you need to add the "-a".

So, to search for the canola stuff, you start your xterm.
You should be in /home/user. (You can type "pwd" to be sure.)

Then type:

ls -a

(I prefer ls -alh to get some more information.)

desiv

[sakamoto]

I though can remove the mytube....but to bad, the plug-in not work for me. :(

I can browse the from list of video, but can't play all the video, it prompted can't resolve the URL for the video...something like that. I've no problem to play & download youtube video from Mytube as well as from browser.

I tried uninstall all Canola software and components, run the clean-up tools, then reinstall still can't solve the problem.:confused:

Any idea why have this problem??

Saka

[handful]

Hi Sakamoto,

Really weird problem, as you mentioned that all your other software is able to reach the internet. Can you please tell us :
what device are you using, version of software and version of mplayer?
Maybe this is a silly bug and if so we will fix it asap so you are also able to test it.

Of course, try the old windows style thing : after trying, close canola, go to the web browser hit youtube do a search, reboot the device and try again ? (I know it sounds stupid but has worked) : )

Anyways, we will try to reproduce it here, but we haven't faced this error message yet.

Marcelo

[sakamoto]

Yes, I have no problem for the Internet access, I can download email, update RSS & download podcast (via C2), but simply the youtube plug-in don't work for me, I have double-checked the wireless connection still up when try to download.

I using N800 with OS2008 ver 2.2007.50-2, the mplayer version is 1.0rc1-maemo.26.n8x0

I don't mind to try stupid steps, but can u tell me more about the "old windows style", i not sure what is it??

In fact i had installed this plug-in few days already but never success to view youtube video, and I power-off my N800 every night and boot-up next day (due to battery issue:().

Saka

[handful]

Saka,

the "old windows style" as a joke about "rebooting" to try to solve :)

Well, can you make sure you have space on the internal disk (not on the memory cards) ?

Br

Marcelo

[sakamoto]

I have only 18MB free on the internal (Device) memory, is it too small??

[handful]

Totally :/ a youtube video has more than 50 mb.
You can also try looking at the other threads here how to create a sim link to your memory card (we are adding this option) and thus you solve the problem.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

MArcelo

[asqwasqw]

when canola stretches the video, it causes some lag, and some audio and video problems, is there a possible fix?

[handful]

asq : Canola does not stretch the video. Mplayer embedded mode does. The lag can be fixed because we tested with .24 and .26 just fine (as also commented by other users).

try to check if you have those versions, and for the stretching problem, we already send the patch that fix it to the mplayer project, so it will be probably in the next releases.

Cheers,

Marcelo

[sakamoto]

Totally :/ a youtube video has more than 50 mb.
You can also try looking at the other threads here how to create a sim link to your memory card (we are adding this option) and thus you solve the problem.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

MArcelo

Really? Because I never see the message for not enough memory?? And the software have not start download anything already have error (within 5 second after I click from the list)

Anyway, I will try it out later. Thanks!

Saka

[handful]

Well, that is a bug :) it should have shown that but I think in your case it fails even before the error is throw ;/

Anyways you give us some hint, and we will try to reproduce to add the correct error messages.

Marcelo

[yerga]

Sorry if this already has been asked previously, have read all the messages of this topic and I don't remember if it has been requested yet.

A thing that I lack in the youtube plugin, in the searches it only shows a certain number of results.
It would be nice to add a function "Next Page", where it should show the next results.

BTW, great work with the plugins system, probably I will write some plugin for it.

[handful]

Hi yerga!

Daniel, this was not ask before, don't worry and it's indeed quite relevant. We already have the design, but we need to do some deeper modification on our list components (to have the last item for example) to be actually the trigger for the next page.

I'm writing this down on my spreadsheet of ITT related issues, and I will try to push in the upcoming sprints.

At least we are adding support to sort the search result but the time now is being consumed to finish the last.fm plugin, which I hope we can integrate in the next beta probably next week.

Also, did you see the we are going to upload the desktop version for people to be able to test their plugins without needing to send to device etc :)

I will also ask you one thing : I really need the maemo extras statistics but for me (I don't know if my dns / proxy problem) I cannot access your site since last week! :/
can you send it to me on my handful AT gmail email ?

I would be just great!

Thanks for your time and suggestions!!!

Marcelo

[yerga]

Thanks for your reply Marcelo.


Also, did you see the we are going to upload the desktop version for people to be able to test their plugins without needing to send to device etc :)

Yes, I saw it. It's a good idea and it will facilitate enough the development of plugins for canola. In addition with the portability python has, one knows what one writes in the desktop is going to work in the device.



I will also ask you one thing : I really need the maemo extras statistics but for me (I don't know if my dns / proxy problem) I cannot access your site since last week! :/
can you send it to me on my handful AT gmail email ?

I would be just great!


Well, I haven't the statistics of the extras repository. I haven't anything with maemo.org.
I only was pointing out the statistics are now displayed in the downloads page of every application in maemo.org/downloads.
For example, for Canola in http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/canola2
There is a "Download statistics" link. It will show a graph with statistics in the last weeks. Canola has approx. 1500-3500 downloads each week.
I don't know if there is a more complete list of statistics of those who are showed there.

Btw, my site usually fails once a day or is late to connect (especially the blog database), but is the second report I have from brazil of more time without being able to access. Perhaps it's time to move to a paid hosting.

Rgs.

[dave79]

Neil -- no problem. :)

Let's say you want to make your youtube video directory on your external SD card (/media/mmc1):

mkdir /media/mmc1/youtube

this will create the directory. Now, we'll move the already collected files in your canola youtube directory there:

mv /home/user/.canola/youtube/videos/* /media/mmc1/youtube/

that'll put everything you've collected so far into the new directory. Now that the directory is empty, you can remove it:

rmdir /home/user/.canola/youtube/videos/

now, just create the link:

ln -s /media/mmc1/youtube/ /home/user/.canola/youtube/videos/

when you next start up canola, it'll find all the stuff you've previously saved there, in the new directory. :)

what i am doing wrong here?

~ $ mkdir /media/mmc1/youtube


~ $ mv /home/user/.canola/youtube/videos/* /media/mmc1/youtube/


mv: cannot preserve ownership of '/media/mmc1/youtube/2tX1bnhhi4I.flv': Operation not permitted


mv: cannot preserve ownership of '/media/mmc1/youtube/2tX1bnhhi4I.flv.downloaded': Operation not permitted


mv: cannot preserve ownership of '/media/mmc1/youtube/2tX1bnhhi4I.flv.saved': Operation not permitted




~ $ rmdir /home/user/.canola/youtube/videos/


~ $ In -s /media/mmc1/youtube/ /home/user/canola/youtube/videos/


-sh: In: not found

[sakamoto]

Well, that is a bug :) it should have shown that but I think in your case it fails even before the error is throw ;/

Anyways you give us some hint, and we will try to reproduce to add the correct error messages.

Marcelo

i didn't try to create the link to my memory card, but i did removed alot of file the internal memory, now have 59mb free space, but still don't work for me:confused:
I notice one problem may be related, that is now seem can't watch youtube on the browser anymore, but still no problem on the mytube.

Saka

[briand]

what i am doing wrong here?


two things.

1) you are not at the root prompt (which is a #, not a $)

2) "In" is not the command, it's "ln" (ell en)

[sakamoto]

i didn't try to create the link to my memory card, but i did removed alot of file the internal memory, now have 59mb free space, but still don't work for me:confused:
I notice one problem may be related, that is now seem can't watch youtube on the browser anymore, but still no problem on the mytube.

Saka

My problem solved by itself, which is happened few days later after I free-up memory space?? I did everyday shutdown and start and tried everyday fail, but don't know why suddenly can work? :confused:

This is happened before install the recent new C2 beta......but after upgrade, I have another problem.......I only can view one youtube video.:(, have to restart the C2 then can view another video.

[handful]

Hei Sakamoto : something is really wrong with your installation.

To enable us to help you you must provide some information, just telling your problem is not enough for us to find out what is the problem.

a. run canola in the xterm (utillities) with -vv as argument :

canola -vv

b. Do the youtube usage, and then try the other video... send to us what is written on the terminal.


Also : send us device + firmaware + what version of Mplayer are you using.

If you can also send : all repositories that you have installed : go to the applications manager menus -> application repositories.

All of this is evidence to find the problem.

This is showing to be a really unique problem, and we must understand what is in your machine that is causing this effect.

BR

Marcleo

[fidorulz]

Pardon me if these where suggested but for the youtube plug-in maybe add an option to not log history for videos viewed. Im sure this would free up a little memory and also save a few people from having their significant others from seeing their history lol

Also a scroll option would be nice for the youtube clips. Currently you cant fast forward or rewind. Im sure this is being looked into

Also maybe a subscription option for people who use that on youtube

Also allow the full screen button to function for videos via Canola as an alternative to taping the screen

BTW keep up the good work

[munky261]

as far as signiifigant other viewing... just do what i do and dont let her touch the tablet LOL

[handful]

FIDO :

-> History, there will be a way (isn't already there) ? to clear the history. I don't know if your "don't log at all" thing is going to enter :) even more that different from the desktop the tablet is a more "personal device". Anyways :) you can clean up before passing to her.

-> Scroll : actually you mean SEEK. Mplayer with Seek support for FLV files is coming. when it's working, we just remove on option, and the tracker appears. We tried, but Mplayer was fixing that at the time, that's why it's not there.

-> subscription is a nice idea

-> FS btn : also, but we are a full touch application :)))

Thanks for the feedback / suggestions

Marcelo

@munky : wise guy :)

[fidorulz]

FIDO :

-> History, there will be a way (isn't already there) ? to clear the history. I don't know if your "don't log at all" thing is going to enter :) even more that different from the desktop the tablet is a more "personal device". Anyways :) you can clean up before passing to her.

-> Scroll : actually you mean SEEK. Mplayer with Seek support for FLV files is coming. when it's working, we just remove on option, and the tracker appears. We tried, but Mplayer was fixing that at the time, that's why it's not there.

-> subscription is a nice idea

-> FS btn : also, but we are a full touch application :)))

Thanks for the feedback / suggestions

Marcelo

@munky : wise guy :)

Well for the history thing I noticed you can click on the garbage icon for all the clips and when eraseing a clip the erase option will disappear for some of the clips forcing you to re-click the garbage icon.

Also maybe an erase all option would be possible instead of having to do it one clip at a time.

Also im not sure if preloading multiple videos would be possible. Have an option in the plugin menu then once selected would open up a screen divided in 2 parts.

One where you can search (maybe just reuse the plugin menu for this section minus the muti option in order not to create a loop conflict. May save on programing too)then drag and drop to the other section. Once dragged and dropped the video would start downloading but not play.

Maybe have a play button show up on the videos being queued or simply tapping the video. Thus you can continue searching in one window and dragging to the other while the videos download ready to be viewed when you want.

Would come in handy for videos split into multiple parts

[handful]

Fido:

Yeah, the downloading 2 videos would be something like the podcast right? We had this idea in the beginning, but this add a little bit more of burden on the design, that it would take a lot more to release. Maybe we do the "current downloads" for the videos, but for now our focus is on closing / fixing everything to "stabilize" to final version.

Br

Marcelo

[GeraldKo]

The Canola Youtube plug-in no longer works. It used to, but starting tonight, after I've used the plug-in to search for a file, and I try to launch it, Canola tells me that it cannot "resolve the video URL" and that I should check my connection. The problem is not my connection (in any typical sense) as I can surf on MicroB and even Canola's Youtube search function works fine. I can also download the very same video via bywifi.com or watch it directly on Youtube. I have two N800's, one of which has had nothing new installed since Youtube was working in Canola, and now they both have the same problem about "the video URL." Both have Canola2 Beta8. (I wonder if Youtube changed something that created an incompatibility with Canola. But that would be the case only if everyone is having this problem.)

[RipTorn]

Yep I get the same thing

[cashmere]

Same message here too.

[briand]

:sigh:

I hope this is temporary, and gets resolved. If I'm forced to only watch YouTube through their web interface, littered with ads and other crap, I'm more likely to stop looking at it altogether.

[handful]

Owo,

It's a major problem, let's see what we can do!!!

Sorry for the problem, thanks for the fast reply!

Marcelo

[GeraldKo]

Owo,

It's a major problem, let's see what we can do!!!

Sorry for the problem, thanks for the fast reply!

Marcelo

Owo?? What's Owo?

[handful]

GeraldKO

This is my creeping-velociraptor-sound when attacked by a hungry t-rex in the middle of launch time :)

PAIN! :)))

Marcelo

[frogman]

same issue here with the "cannot find url"... seems youtube may have changed something

[mfortner]

I was getting the same url error with the saved files in the local videos folder too. How is the url used for saved videos?

I thought I had buggered it and spent last night and this morning troubleshooting, reflashing, restoring and groaning.

[unholyplayer]

arg, same issue here too.

[genome4hire]

Marcelo,

Youtube now offers higher res. videos with a slightly different url.

Would it be possible to add an option to the YouTube Plugin, so that if we wished to (and were on a fast enough connection), we'd get to watch/download the high res version instead?

Thanks

[handful]

@everyone : yes, youtube indeed did that.

@High-res videos : we will update the api, so it will probably have this option, but bare in mind that if it's barely playable today.. I don't believe a higher resolution will play fine in embedded mode. Anyways you can always download and try to launch via mplayer.

We will take a look at this asap. If possible we will release an update on tuesday (monday is a national holiday) :/

sorry for this delay!

Marcelo

[bahbah12]

@handful First of all thanks for great program. Whilst you are fixing the current youtube plugin issue, may I ask for an item to be added to your list of futue enhanements? Would it be possible to have the opption of playing the videos original aspect ratio? This will help with 4:3 format viewing.

Many thanks

[handful]

HI bahbah12 :

As we always say it's a good strategy to do a smalls search before posting (this is not rude at all just spreading forum's guidelines around )

This issue has been discussed a lot :

The strecth is also due to some bug in the Mplayer embedded mode. We did a patch (fix) for the mplayer, that is already available in the preview of the next version, that also improves a lot the playback on embedded mode. So not only Canola will be with original aspect ratio but any other player that uses mplayer embedded mode.

There was an way to do it now, but it would be a real hack (opening mplayer, getting the aspect, closing it, opening again) and we like to fix the thing not hack it ;)

Marcelo

[Mika73]

My YouTube plugin stop playing videos.. :eek:

´Unable resolve video URL, Check your connection´ (Or something like that..)

It does list/find videos ok, it just doesnt play them and gives that error. And ofcourse internet connection works.

I have still Beta7. There is a threat about Beta8 problems so I didnt update.. And it did work ok before..

Now what to do..

--

Looks like others have same problem too.. It did work (for me) earlyer today.. and then stop working.. :(

[Howie_it]

Newbie here and am I glad to see the above. I am having the same url problem. I updated mplayer yesterday and I was about to blame it. Hope to have the fix soon my little girl is so used to it now that both she and me can't live without the youtube......

[briand]

this problem was reported here when it first started happening (early last weekend, I think). Marcelo (handful) replied that their team was seeing the same behavior -- it looks like youtube changed something, and the canola plugin would need to be updated. he further went on to say that this past Monday was a holiday there, so nobody would be able to take a look at the problem and coding a fix until Tuesday (yesterday).

Patience. :) The Canola development team is a good bunch of guys... give 'em a chance, and I'm sure they'll have things ironed out ASAP.

[khalid]

I was getting the same url error with the saved files in the local videos folder too. How is the url used for saved videos?

I thought I had buggered it and spent last night and this morning troubleshooting, reflashing, restoring and groaning.

I ran into the same problem couple of days back where canola2 stopped playing local youtube videos even though it could list them. I noticed that it was doing it only for the videos I had save more than a week back while the more recently saved ones worked just fine. I poked around the filesystem and noticed that the older videos were saved under /media/mmc1/canola/youtube/videos while the newer ones were saved under /media/mmc1/My downloads/youtube. So I moved all files from /media/mmc1/canola/youtube/videos to /media/mmc1/My downloads/youtube. I started canola2 and it took a long time to start up (> 30 minutes. I stopped watching it and let it sit overnght). I assumed it was rebuilding some sort of index. After this all local videos play fine.

This sounds like just a hack but it worked for me.

[josiahg777]

ALRIGHT!!!!! The plugin is updated!! Thank you canola team! you rock!!!

I was (no joke) literally updating the application list every hour for the past two days :P

hmmm it works beautifully now! although... video playback seems choppier than I remember... oh well, it's probably just the horrible WiFi at my work. or maybe it's just me :)

anyway, thanks again!

*goes off to watch more vids*

[MikeL]

Canola Team, Thanks for the YouTube Plugin fix to synchronise with YouTube API changes (As I understand it) which means we can stream the videos again ;-)

Looking forward to an "Canola team endorsed" version of mplayer or other which improves the embedded video playback of the YouTube Videos within Canola.

As an interim measure where I really like a YouTube video and want to show friends I find myself using Canola to search/find them and mplayer with its basic GUI to play them without the audio/video sync issues.

YouTube and Last.fm plugins for Canola are REALLY GREAT :) :)

[Mika73]

This looks like that I have to update Beta8 after all.. :)

I guess latest youtube plugin doesnt work with Beta7.

[Mika73]

Works great now :) Thank you :)

[J0ph33]

hiho

i am a proud owner of a N810 now for almost a week and i'm enjoying canola2 very much...except of the youtube-client, which was broken...but today i found this board and the hint to the update, and now youtube is working again...(for me, the first time)

but there are still some problems with the youtube plug-in, regarding the performance...sometimes the playback is great, extremely fluently, but some videos have serious performance issues...(i couldn't discover if the problem refers to certain videos or possibly all videos)

in this thread almost everyone is quite pleased with the performance, so i think there must be a problem with my configuration...

using a N810 with OS2008, Canola2 newest version, Youtube-Plugin newest version

edit: forget following problems...

when i want to pause a youtube-video it doesn't really pause, just slowing down (and i mean veeery slow)...furthermore, is there no way to fast-forward?

another edit:

after testing several videos several times i discovered that the problem does NOT refer to certain videos, but occurs with almost every video sometimes
the problem can be "solved" by stopping the video (going back to the last window) and minimizing and maximizing canola...after doing this several times (usually 2 times is enough), the video runs flewently...

few minutes ago i discovered the same performance problem with a divx-video safed on the internal disk
so the problem is no more related to the youtube-plugin but to canola2 and my N810...

[handful]

This is really strange, anyhow the performance is going to be improved with the new MPLAYER version with better youtube (FLV) support.

so, it's a non-canola related problem, but a embedded mplayer mode problem : / we are trying to help if possible.. but we need to wait for the new buid ; /


Br

Marcelo

[mfortner]

How can I make Canola recognize flv videos not saved from youtube, but from another source. I have tried moving the flv files into the folder, but that did not work. I notice each video saved from youtube has an accompanying file with it. Is that the key? If so, how do I do that for the other FLV files?

[handful]

Hi Mfortnert : this is coming on beta9, but you can indeed do that if you know how to thinker with the Light media scanner, (to add a "dummy" flv plugin"
the code is open source : / we are adding this.. and all flv files will be on the library.

Br

Marcelo

[TTgowings]

Hi, Handful, I've run into something with the Youtube plugin, not sure if it's a flaw, glitch or just unknown at this time.

What I've ran into is if I add a youtube rss feed in the podcast section, it seems to download them (very fast, which leads me to believe it's probably only DL a few kb) and it says they're DL and then when you click on it, it opens up with the music player and not a video player. (youtube RSS test link (http://www.youtube.com/rss/user/shoreserenity/videos.rss))

Any ideas why this is happening and is there a way around it ?