[Canola] Canola Beta 9 : Bug reports, Feedback, Suggestions

[handful]

xvila : we updated the youtube plugin to solve that url problem (youtube actually updated) so it should be working for everyone.

Heron :
We always advice people to backup before installing / uninstalling but it was not supposed to be like that :/ Your data (database) should be protected at least if you do the backup.

But as we had a major problem with beta10, we will make sure to make this even harder to happen. I think this is mistake we should really be ashamed of.

Thanks for the feedback on that topic we will for sure improve (actually as the first team is back on control) we will make it quite fast!

Marcelo

[paulm64]

I have a Nokia n800 and Canola2. I installed the you tube plugin and it worked for a while but now the youtube plugin doesn't apear in the videos menu anymore. I tried uninstalling canola and the you toube plug in again but I still don't see the youtube option in the videos menu anymore. Any ideas?

[dantonic]

Hello,
I just want to say that I really like the idea of Canola, and all that it is designed to do. As much as I love this program, I am experiencing some problems which cause me to not be able to use it for what I need.
I tried to scroll through the forums to see if anyone had the same issue, but didnt find anything. I apologize if this has already been talked about.
I use an N800 with Diablo

Two issues that affect my usage:
1. It seems that Canola will not play podcasts that contain % signs in the name of the file. What I end up doing to get around this is I download my favorite podcasts with canola, and I'm forced to play them in the regular N800 Media Player

2. I like to convert some of my DVDs to watch them on my Tablet. I convert them into Xvid AVIs usually around 100kbps with 25 fps. these are the approximate specifications of the standard sample video that comes with the 2008 OS.
These videos look perfect on the regular N800 player, but the playback on Canola is not perfectly smooth. They are still watchable, but it is not 100% smooth like on the regular player. Every once in a while the video lags. I can't justify watching them on Canola when I know they will look better on the other player.

I make sure I use Canola without any other apps open, so I keep as much memory free as possible. I tried creating videos of different kbps rate, and its always the same.

These issues basically make Canola unusable for me. The only other thing I can use it for is play my music, but what I mostly do on it is Listen to podcasts and watch videos.
I am actually debating uninstalling it to free some space, since I cannot really use it for what I need. I'd hate to do that because I really want it to work.

Does anyone else notice this? Multiple searches on google regarding this issue have given no relevant results.
Thanks for your time and suggestions.

David

[jhoff80]

I haven't touched my n800 in months, but I just cleared out its memory and upgraded the firmware, then installed Canola, and for some reason the canola-tuning plugin isn't downloading any cover art (except for one album, which was really weird.) I disabled local covers and ID3 tags, and kept the last.fm covers and Amazon covers, and it looked like it was working but then didn't. I tried only Amazon and only last.fm enabled too, but still nothing but that one album has covers.

Edit: Also, if I try and find a cover for them one album at a time, then it just tells me covers not found even though I can find them with Coverfinder on Amazon and I can manually see them on last.fm too.

[rdcinhou]

I've noticed that the beta9 of Canola2 also appears to stutter in certain video types--those that use mplayer instead of the internal media player.

The only other application that I have running in parallel is omweather, but I doubt that this should be a problem as I have it set for manual update only.

The behavior though sure seems like some task interrupting on about a 10 second cycle for a few milliseconds.

[lfelipe]

Hello,
I just want to say that I really like the idea of Canola, and all that it is designed to do. As much as I love this program, I am experiencing some problems which cause me to not be able to use it for what I need.
I tried to scroll through the forums to see if anyone had the same issue, but didnt find anything. I apologize if this has already been talked about.
I use an N800 with Diablo

Two issues that affect my usage:
1. It seems that Canola will not play podcasts that contain % signs in the name of the file. What I end up doing to get around this is I download my favorite podcasts with canola, and I'm forced to play them in the regular N800 Media Player

2. I like to convert some of my DVDs to watch them on my Tablet. I convert them into Xvid AVIs usually around 100kbps with 25 fps. these are the approximate specifications of the standard sample video that comes with the 2008 OS.
These videos look perfect on the regular N800 player, but the playback on Canola is not perfectly smooth. They are still watchable, but it is not 100% smooth like on the regular player. Every once in a while the video lags. I can't justify watching them on Canola when I know they will look better on the other player.

I make sure I use Canola without any other apps open, so I keep as much memory free as possible. I tried creating videos of different kbps rate, and its always the same.

These issues basically make Canola unusable for me. The only other thing I can use it for is play my music, but what I mostly do on it is Listen to podcasts and watch videos.
I am actually debating uninstalling it to free some space, since I cannot really use it for what I need. I'd hate to do that because I really want it to work.

Does anyone else notice this? Multiple searches on google regarding this issue have given no relevant results.
Thanks for your time and suggestions.

David

David,

thanks alot for your report (and for giving us detailed information). We're going to take a look at the '%' issue, but could you please tell me how you are converting movies so that we can try to reproduce it here ? One reason that playback might be worse is that Canola might be trying to use mplayer to play the video, and mplayer might not be handling those videos particularly well. You might want to change your ~/.atabake/config to prefer 'oms' for that particular video type if it's not already like that (if it's not, please tell me so that we can continue trying to debug what's happening).

Cheer,
--lf

[speculatrix]

Canola is a really cool package; have you guys taken a look at boxee http://www.boxee.tv/ or xbmc http://xbmc.org/ - these have some really nice refinements for UI and plugins.
Just a thought

[dantonic]

Hello,
sorry for the delay.

I use a program called DVDFab Platinum version 4.0.1.2
I encode using an xvid+mp3 file format. It is encoded using:
Fast (1-pass) encoding
Fixed bitrate option
bitrate of 512kbps (when looking at the final file properties, it shows up as being approximately 100 kbps)
frame resolution of 416x240
Bits/Pixel 0.214
Audio Bitrate 128
Framerate option: Same as source (This usually ends up being between 25 and 30 fps.

I chose these settings to keep the file as close as possible to the encoding options of the Nokia video converter. I've also tried different settings, and these seem to be optimal for quality and responsiveness.

Also regarding the .atabake/config
I am not well learned in Unix. I am not sure what that file is, how I would access or edit it. Could you give detailed instructions/commands on how I would do that? I assume it would be from the terminal. I know how to gain root access if that is needed.

Thanks.

David

[dantonic]

I went online, and did a search, ad figured out how to get to the config file and how to use the vi editor to edit it.

the "general" and "video" settings were both set for mplayer. I've changed them both to oms. I'll be trying some videos, and will let you know how they look.

Thanks a lot for your help.

David

ok so i tried it out, and I get no picture. It doesn't play at all. It still plays under the regular media player of course.
When I edited the config file back to what it was, it goes back to normal with the same issue as before.

[BILLIONAIRE]

I have the same problems as dantonic. I use Canola to download podcast videos everyday but they do not play through the Canalo program. It starts but it lags sometimes the pictures just freezes at the beginning but conitnues to play sound, Just like dantonic I mainly use Canola to watch podcast and movies but Canola doesnt seem to support either one especially podcast video, After I download the podcast through Canola i always have to exit and play them through the standard media player. I dont mind doing that but it would be nice to use Canola as my totql source. My main concern is that it cant play podcast videos after you download them. It uses kmplayer as the default player and I dont know how to change it but based on dantonic respoonse, changing the default doesnt help. Will this be fixed? Great program nonetheless

[lschuman]

Hello, I have a Nokia N810, less than one week old. The first thing I did is upgrade to Diablo. The next thing I did is download Canola 2 and all of its plugins. They all work except for the youtube plugin. The plugin doesn't show up anywhere. The first place I looked was under "video", then I searched everywhere and checked all of the possible settings. I read some instructions as to how it works and watched videos on youtube demonstrating the plugin. In every case it shows up as one of the "video" options. But for me, it just isn't there! I uninstalled and reinstalled the program and all plugins, beginning with the repository. Still no sign of the youtube option in the program, though I was informed that it installed correctly. Any ideas?

Otherwise, great program! Listening to music and checking out pictures is fantastic.

[lfelipe]

Hello, I have a Nokia N810, less than one week old. The first thing I did is upgrade to Diablo. The next thing I did is download Canola 2 and all of its plugins. They all work except for the youtube plugin. The plugin doesn't show up anywhere. The first place I looked was under "video", then I searched everywhere and checked all of the possible settings. I read some instructions as to how it works and watched videos on youtube demonstrating the plugin. In every case it shows up as one of the "video" options. But for me, it just isn't there! I uninstalled and reinstalled the program and all plugins, beginning with the repository. Still no sign of the youtube option in the program, though I was informed that it installed correctly. Any ideas?

Otherwise, great program! Listening to music and checking out pictures is fantastic.

Hi, which version of canola and the youtube plugins are you using ???

[lschuman]

The only version of Canola I've been able to get is 10 (2.0.0-beta10-maemo3); I've read on the Canola 2 site that I should use 9, but the tablet's application update only sends me to 10. Going from maemo.org, etc. points me to 10 as well. The youtube plugin is 0.1.4 (0.1.4-maemo1). I appreciate your help!

I'd like to mention again that Canola 2 is an amazing program. I'm very, very impressed.

[lfelipe]

The only version of Canola I've been able to get is 10 (2.0.0-beta10-maemo3); I've read on the Canola 2 site that I should use 9, but the tablet's application update only sends me to 10. Going from maemo.org, etc. points me to 10 as well. The youtube plugin is 0.1.4 (0.1.4-maemo1). I appreciate your help!

I'd like to mention again that Canola 2 is an amazing program. I'm very, very impressed.

You've the extras-devel repository enabled (which is where canola2-beta10 is available). If you disable it and enable the extras repository, you should find the canola2-beta9 and matching canola2-youtube-plugin.

[lschuman]

Thank you very much. I'll learn how to do that and give it a try.

[lschuman]

It worked! I also had to run Canola cleanup (before that the program told me that it had to close because the "home drive is out of memory"). Youtube looks very nice in Canola.

[angelb]

I'm pretty sure this is old news, but I searched the thread and the forum and found no answers:

Running Canola 2.0.0-beta 9-maemo3. Just reflashed OS to Diablo. Ran Canola before on Chinook without problems, unfortunately don't have version data but it was most likely previous than beta 9.

I'm having a lot of problems with playlists, either using old ones or creating new ones. All my old playlists appear normally but when I try to listen any track I get an error: "File not Found". These playlists were originally created with the original Media Player in the Tablet OS. Canola was able to use them without problems in Chinook.

Trying to use the Top Rated and Most Played options gives the same error.

If I try to create a new playlist everything SEEMS fine but after saving I try to use the playlist and no tracks were saved. It appears completely blank. No tracks appear listed

However if I try to listen to the same tracks using the "Browse by Folder option" (A Godsend! Thanks for this!) everything works fine. Internet Radio works perfectly, and the speed and reliability of the application has improved greatly. However I find this playlists issue very annoying and strange.

Any idea on what may be happening? Hope I'm not being redundant. :(

Congratulations on a great application

Angel B
Mexico City

[lfelipe]

I'm pretty sure this is old news, but I searched the thread and the forum and found no answers:

Running Canola 2.0.0-beta 9-maemo3. Just reflashed OS to Diablo. Ran Canola before on Chinook without problems, unfortunately don't have version data but it was most likely previous than beta 9.

I'm having a lot of problems with playlists, either using old ones or creating new ones. All my old playlists appear normally but when I try to listen any track I get an error: "File not Found". These playlists were originally created with the original Media Player in the Tablet OS. Canola was able to use them without problems in Chinook.

Trying to use the Top Rated and Most Played options gives the same error.

If I try to create a new playlist everything SEEMS fine but after saving I try to use the playlist and no tracks were saved. It appears completely blank. No tracks appear listed

However if I try to listen to the same tracks using the "Browse by Folder option" (A Godsend! Thanks for this!) everything works fine. Internet Radio works perfectly, and the speed and reliability of the application has improved greatly. However I find this playlists issue very annoying and strange.

Any idea on what may be happening? Hope I'm not being redundant. :(

Congratulations on a great application

Angel B
Mexico City

Hey Angel,

thanks for your feedback. I've not yet seen this problem you're having with playlists, they do play fine here. Do you think you could post the playlist (only the .m3u file, not the musics) somewhere where we can take a look at it ?

Cheers,
--lf

[angelb]

LF:

Here are some samples of the playlists I mentioned: The *.pls were created via Canola and the *.m3u via the standard Media Player. Previously I was able to import the *.m3u to Canola without any problem. I also tried using the "By Genre" option to listen some tracks and the result is the same "File not found" although the file is there. Curiously enough the track information is shown correctly onscreen first.

You can download them here (http://www.box.net/shared/7qaj6bfg6s)

Hope you can shed some light on this problem.

Obrigado pela vossa ajuda ;)

[lfelipe]

LF:

Here are some samples of the playlists I mentioned: The *.pls were created via Canola and the *.m3u via the standard Media Player. Previously I was able to import the *.m3u to Canola without any problem. I also tried using the "By Genre" option to listen some tracks and the result is the same "File not found" although the file is there. Curiously enough the track information is shown correctly onscreen first.

You can download them here (http://www.box.net/shared/7qaj6bfg6s)

Hope you can shed some light on this problem.

Obrigado pela vossa ajuda ;)

Angelb, sorry for the delay. I've been unable so far to reproduce this behavior. None of the musics on the playlist work ? Or only some of them ?
If you could please run canola from a terminal with verbose mode active ('canola -vvv') and output this to a file somewhere, it would be really useful to try to debug this.
Hopefully we'll be able to fix this soon :)

Muchas gracias :P

[vinc17]

I have canola2 2.0.0~beta9-maemo3 installed on my N810. When I run canola, I get the following error message:

1233011760.7555 ERROR manager:61:_setup_plugin_manager() couldn't load and sync plugins config file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/share/canola/plugins/plugins.pickle'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/canola", line 228, in <module>
mger = Manager(options.config_file)
File "python-terra/core/singleton.py", line 26, in __call__
File "python-terra/core/manager.py", line 43, in __init__
File "python-terra/core/manager.py", line 59, in _setup_plugin_manager
File "python-terra/core/plugin_config.py", line 96, in wrap
File "python-terra/core/plugin_config.py", line 168, in sync
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/posixpath.py", line 143, in getmtime
OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/share/canola/plugins/plugins.pickle'

[wakeboard115]

Just a quick question... Is there a way to search audio library? If there is not, it would be a great feature for the next release.

[lfelipe]

I have canola2 2.0.0~beta9-maemo3 installed on my N810. When I run canola, I get the following error message:

1233011760.7555 ERROR manager:61:_setup_plugin_manager() couldn't load and sync plugins config file: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/share/canola/plugins/plugins.pickle'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/canola", line 228, in <module>
mger = Manager(options.config_file)
File "python-terra/core/singleton.py", line 26, in __call__
File "python-terra/core/manager.py", line 43, in __init__
File "python-terra/core/manager.py", line 59, in _setup_plugin_manager
File "python-terra/core/plugin_config.py", line 96, in wrap
File "python-terra/core/plugin_config.py", line 168, in sync
File "/usr/lib/python2.5/posixpath.py", line 143, in getmtime
OSError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/share/canola/plugins/plugins.pickle'


Seens like an error when Canola was installed, plugins.pickle should've been generated automatically for you. Was there any error message during installation ?

[lfelipe]

Just a quick question... Is there a way to search audio library? If there is not, it would be a great feature for the next release.

Right now there is no way to search. Though not exactly for the next release, searching is indeed planned (and is quite high on my own priority list :P).
Thanks alot for the feedback :)

[vinc17]

Seens like an error when Canola was installed, plugins.pickle should've been generated automatically for you. Was there any error message during installation ?

I don't remember. Is there a way to reinstall it?

[lfelipe]

I don't remember. Is there a way to reinstall it?

Well, just uninstalling it from Application Manager and then installing it again should do the trick. Otherwise, you could install canola-cleanup, run it and then use Application Manager to install Canola again (canola-cleanup does a more thorough uninstall, not that I think it should be necessary here).

[vinc17]

Well, just uninstalling it from Application Manager and then installing it again should do the trick.

OK, since I have extras-devel, I did the following after uninstalling it, to get the beta9:

/home/user # apt-get install canola2=2.0.0~beta9-maemo3
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
gpe-contacts gpe-todo
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following NEW packages will be installed:
canola2
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 58 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B/1539kB of archives.
After unpacking 2474kB of additional disk space will be used.
WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
canola2
Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y
Selecting previously deselected package canola2.
(Reading database ... 29431 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking canola2 (from .../canola2_2.0.0~beta9-maemo3_all.deb) ...
Setting up canola2 (2.0.0~beta9-maemo3) ...
Error: couldn't read plugins information from canola-core/plugins.info: 'canola-core/plugins.info'
/home/user #

As you can see, there has been an error.

[lfelipe]

Most likely it's getting versions of canolad and others from extras-devel. Could you please run canola-cleanup (now I do think it's a little bit more needed :P) and then, disable extras-devel (at least during this procedure) and install canola2.

[vinc17]

Most likely it's getting versions of canolad and others from extras-devel. Could you please run canola-cleanup (now I do think it's a little bit more needed :P) and then, disable extras-devel (at least during this procedure) and install canola2.

canola-cleanup cannot be found.

[lfelipe]

canola-cleanup cannot be found.

The actual package name is canola2-cleanup, sorry.

[vinc17]

The actual package name is canola2-cleanup, sorry.

Thanks, problem solved.

[angelb]

LF:

Sorry about not answering sooner. Just updated to Canola2 Beta 11. Everything is working perfectly now! Playlists, video, etc. All is now as it should. Yay!! :) This new version is really great. Good work and congratulations!!

Muchisimas gracias por su ayuda!!

[Dali]

When my canola.db is corrupted, I got message "Local drive is out of space. Going to exit canola"
So I remove canola.db, and Canola2 started with initial empty state. All URLs to internet media and other settings is lost.
I think, it's necessary to keep links and all settings in prefs dir.

[lfelipe]

When my canola.db is corrupted, I got message "Local drive is out of space. Going to exit canola"
So I remove canola.db, and Canola2 started with initial empty state. All URLs to internet media and other settings is lost.
I think, it's necessary to keep links and all settings in prefs dir.

Ideally the user should not have to remove canola.db, ever. This happened with this upgrade to users that were on beta10, but shouldn't happen anymore. For next release, we're improving some database related stuff to make sure that it doesn't get bloated with time (so that the user should never need to erase it).
Cheers.

[Dali]

Ideally the user should not have to remove canola.db, ever. This happened with this upgrade to users that were on beta10, but shouldn't happen anymore.
No, my db corrupted on file operation, not on upgrade.
File corruption is very possible on some circumstations, and we must not lose our custom settings, especially precious (URLs), with not so valuable like SD media library scanning results.

[lfelipe]

No, my db corrupted on file operation, not on upgrade.
File corruption is very possible on some circumstations, and we must not lose our custom settings, especially precious (URLs), with not so valuable like SD media library scanning results.

But wouldn't just putting it in another file be subject to the same corruptions?

[gazza_d]

running a backup of the home folder at regular intervals will give a fallback position if the db corrupts. I speak from experience by the way!!

[kaitech]

Ok Since I found this thread hopefully I may get some help here, I just installed canola2 into my n900 It works fine with the exception of media folders, I am able to scan my MicroSD card but it does not list my internal memory the 32GB LOL This is where all of my media is located. Is there a work around for this

[saadgadit]

hi i just installed canola on my n900.. restarted the cell tooo.. its listing down all audio n video files but while playing there is no output either from speakers or the headset.. can someone help?

[dandiesel]

Can't change theme - app restarts. Can't input text for last.fm login details