[KDE] KDE358 PBv3 Codename ZELDA - DEB (for boot from SD)

[penguinbait]

UPDATED to v4


Whats new in v4, the problem outlined below, and Microb shortcut on the desktop.

Shortcuts added
CTRL + (hildon menu button) = COPY
SHIFT + (hildon menu button) = paste

updated the installer for Diablo.


NEW UPDATE
xmodmap.desktop was left off the deb, so install this if you want these shortcuts (see below) you need to install this deb.
Then you will have the following shortcuts
(Fn + >) TAB Key
(Fn + <) | (PIPE KEY)
FN + Backspace = [
Shift + Backspace = ]
Shift + Minus = {
Shift + Plus = }
Shift + ? = `


Install http://penguinbait.com/kde-xmodmap.deb

YOU NEED TO RESTART KDE


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BUG Discovered??? in v3

I found if you are running on N810 and you are not using xmodmap the (Fn) key seems to be not working. or working unreliably. I have not figured out what is happening yet. If I run xmodon from xterm and restart KDE it all works great.

This may only become an issue if you are running a N810 with non-USA environment. N800 should not be an issue (I am reloading right now). I do not see how this could effect 800 since it does not have an Fn key. Perhaps some people can look at xmodon if you are using other enviroment and provide xmodmap files to be used?

Still trying to determine if this will be an actual problem for anyone, please let me know your experiences.






KDE358 PBv3 Codename ZELDA - DEB (for boot from SD)

http://penguinbait.com/zelda.png


THIS IS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ALREADY BOOTING FROM SD CARDS

Boot from SD installer thread
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19639

I am developing a DEB to install KDE on boot from SD devices. The DEB will download KDE and install it. It also has a md5sum check and will redownload from where it left off. Also if you lose connectivity durring install process, you can just reconnect and it will start right where it left off. Although the application manager will jjust keep running until it can finish.



NOTE, this works with my Boot from SD DEB, but 2GB is the minimum to install (FRESH FLASH WILL WORK). and it comes very close to running out of space. Once complete on the 2GB card, there is about 340MB free. If nothing else is installed. Its really tight on the 2GB card because the installer downloads the KDE install files to the same partition it installs them too. YOU MUST HAVE About 1.35GB FREE to start the KDE install process. It will remove the KDE tarballs after the install completes.

Additionally removing the deb, will remove the remaining install files and leave KDE install in tact.


HOW TO Monitor Install Progress
once the install process is started, it will download KDE and install it. You can view the progress of this in xterm

ls -l /root/kde-installer

or

open web-browser and go to

/root/kde-installer

(refreshing will allow you to see the KDE358 300MB file incrementing.)

If you notice its less than 300MB and its not incrementing, verify your internet connection is still working. Once it gets to 308MB it will start the un-tar process, and remove itself when it completes successfully. It will then start the SUPv2 download in the same way.


It could take a couple of hours to complete. Mine seemed to run a little over an hour, but I did not actually time it. Also internet connection speed will vary install times.




INSTALL PROCESS

1) READ ABOVE

2) DID YOU READ ABOVE (Many people just dont read things before installing things. Well especially if its from me, You should read and ask any questions prior to install.

2.5) For the PEOPLE who refuse to read, please it only takes a minute. Read 2) again

3) Got to http://penguinbait.com (while booted from SD card)

4) Right Click on "KDE INSTALLER v3" (save target as)

or here >
http://penguinbait.com/kde-installer-v4.deb

5) Save the file somewhere

6) open application manager and using the menu, select "install from file" , select the file you just saved

7) Sit back and wait it may be a while!!!!

8) When the application manager finishes the install cleanly, you may remove the package. A failing install may be re-ran, but if you remove it first, your download will start all over again.

9) You should reboot before running KDE, to ensure all the proper services are started boot time.




Updates: from v2

#1
removes xmodmap from Autostart
from xterm run xmodon to place back in AutoStart and then restart KDE to take effect
from xterm run xmodoff to remove the xmodmap setting from AutoStart and restart 800/810

#2
Include battery-status
You still need to install python

#3
Include flite executable
Also configure kopete and konqueror to use kttsmgr by default

#4
Include USB mouse package with BT support

#5
Create bluetooth mouse script for connecting mouse (pretty cool)
Icon replaces Maemo-Mapper on taskbar. Maemo-Mapper Icon moved to Desktop

#6
Include color-ls (because I wanted to)

#7
removed old files in /usr/local/kde/share/wallpapers

#8
Added keyboard shortcut for switching between apps
(CTRL + FN)

#9
added theme (Zelda)
old theme penguinbait (v2) is still available.

#10 Bluetooth Stack

And I think this concludes the v3 updates

Additional useful things to know

TASKBAR
--------------------
battery-status is now included, but until you install python2.5-runtime for the battery icon on the taskbar to work., it will also notify you if it get low. (dont ask)

open xterm and type
apt-get install python2.5-runtime

usb icon on taskbar toggles otg / host mode

red terminal = root xterm

black terminal = user xterm

hildon connection manager

hildon application manager

hildon control panel

BT mouse script. I wrote a script using kdialog. when pressed it will scan for bluetooth devices, and display a list for you to choose from. When chosen it will connect to the device and mouse will start working. (Best to press the button on taskbar, then press the pair button on the mouse. )
(Also note that I only tested on targus mouse which requires no pairing. If your device requires pairing, you should be able to pair in control panel and then use the taskbar to connect. ? ) PS (MAKE SURE BLUETOOTH IS ENABLED IN HILDON CONTROL PANEL)
--------------------

Look at hildon display dimming timeouts, you can turn on up to 24hours (1440) minutes

sets pty = 24

N800
onscreen keyboard can be started from (KDE Menu > Utilities > kvkbd)

Shortcuts 810
(CTRL + Fn) (like ALT - TAB) Toggles Applications
(CTRL + SWAP KEY) Move Window
(SHIFT + SWAP KEY) Switch to next Desktop
(SWAP KEY) Toggle right click / left click (N800 HOME KEY)
(CTRL + ZOOM -) Minimize Window
(CTRL + ZOOM +) Maximize Window
(CTRL + FULLSCREEN) Close Window
CTRL + (hildon menu button) = COPY
SHIFT + (hildon menu button) = paste





qjoypad comes with KDE, you can map usb joystick buttons to any key. runs in hildon and kde

Just because I know its coming:
(SWAP KEY) = The little window looking button on the 810 or HOME key on the 810
(SWAP KEY is listed on my 810 documentation, so don't ask me?)



I am sure I am missing something, looking forward as always,



FLITE is installed, if you want more voices or spanish, use, festival ---------------------------

untar in /home/user
-----------------------------
cd /home/user

tar zxvf /path/to/fest.tgz

-----------------------------

Open KDE, go to "Control Center"

Click "Regional Settings"

Select "Text-to-Speech"

Click "Talkers" (Tab)

Click "ADD"

Make sure the "Synthesizer" is "Festival Interactive" and

Click OK

Where it says "Festival Executable" put in /home/user/festival/bin/festival

Click "Rescan"

Select the voice you want, Its got more than just spanish

American Female
3 American Males
Canadian English Male
Scottish Male
British Male
Castilian Spanish Male

Click OK (Or you can "test") It sounds like spanish but what do I know




festival
http://penguinbait.com/fest.tgz

festival with docs and all
http://penguinbait.com/festifull.tgz

You can also get them at tablethacker, I will update this post with the urls when I get it uploaded.

festival
http://tablethacker.com/software/fest.tgz

festival with docs and all
http://tablethacker.com/software/festifull.tgz

EDIT ADDED 6/4/10
Running KDE on Community SSU

I was having a problem getting KDE to run on community SSU because it looks like "ps -ef" is no longer working in Community SSU. I have filed a bug.

You can work around this ps errors while running KDE under Community SSU by creating a script to run ps.

Open xterm and become root and run the following commands.

echo "/bin/ps" > /usr/bin/ps
chmod +x /usr/bin/ps

This will fix the ps error and KDE problems starting under community SSU.

[overfloat]

bammmmmmmm

[PinCushionQueen]

Ok just a few questions - sorry to be dense but thought I'd ask before I go plunging in...

1) Since I already have KDE installed on my 2gb internal - do I need to reflash and reclone the internal card first such that KDE is no longer installed? I don't see how I'll have the 1.35gb of required space available if I don't.

2)I've been wanting to re-partition my 2gb Internal drive to give myself more ext2 space and no fat (well 128 mb for swap). Can I still do that before installing this deb?

3) Can I save my .kde directory from my existing install and overright the new .kde directory so that I regain most of my settings? This is what I did when upgrading from v1 to v2.

Those are my main questions - TIA for your assistance :D

[penguinbait]

Ok just a few questions - sorry to be dense but thought I'd ask before I go plunging in...

1) Since I already have KDE installed on my 2gb internal - do I need to reflash and reclone the internal card first such that KDE is no longer installed? I don't see how I'll have the 1.35gb of required space available if I don't.
probably

2)I've been
wanting to re-partition my 2gb Internal drive to give myself more ext2 space and no fat (well 128 mb for swap). Can I still do that before installing this deb?
boot from sd deb will do this for you, look at boot from sd thread
EDIT
Sorry , I misread this, it will not do this for you, it will create fat also. Sorry. If using fresh flash, you will have 330MB free on 2GB card after installation. BUT it needs that space to download and install KDE.


3) Can I save my .kde directory from my existing install and overright the new .kde directory so that I regain most of my settings? This is what I did when upgrading from v1 to v2.


should probably work, but may end up wacky


Those are my main questions - TIA for your assistance :D


not real helpful :confused:

[supergadgetman]

Is there a deb for this new ver 3 for those of us that would rather not boot to kde? I would like to install it to my external card on my n800. I'm already booting my OS from SD on my internal card and Im afraid of messing around in that slot. I have the older version of kde already installed to my external and I know it would be simple to just uninstall the older version from application manager and install your newer version. (If a non-bootable version exists)
Thanks alot for your help.

[penguinbait]

Is there a deb for this new ver 3 for those of us that would rather not boot to kde? I would like to install it to my external card on my n800. I'm already booting my OS from SD on my internal card and Im afraid of messing around in that slot. I have the older version of kde already installed to my external and I know it would be simple to just uninstall the older version from application manager and install your newer version. (If a non-bootable version exists)
Thanks alot for your help.

Boot directly to KDE is a separate DEB. If you install V3 it will boot to hildon, unless you install kde-boot.deb

[supergadgetman]

Oh ok, Great! Will it allow me to specify which card to install to (external) when I begin installation?
Thanks again

[penguinbait]

Oh ok, Great! Will it allow me to specify which card to install to (external) when I begin installation?
Thanks again

Installation will happen on the OS you are booted to?

You must setup boot from SD prior to installing KDE, see my signature for the boot from SD deb thread.

[supergadgetman]

Installation will happen on the OS you are booted to?

You must setup boot from SD prior to installing KDE, see my signature for the boot from SD deb thread.

I'm already booting to SD, but I do not want to boot to KDE. So I guess I need to stear clear of the "boot to sd deb". I want to keep this KDE install away from my internal SD that I am already booting from. Thats why i want to install this new KDE to external. I would like to still boot hildon from my internal card like I have been doing. Sorry if I am confusing you. I just want to replace the old version of kde that I have on my external with this new one and keep all my boot settings the same. I want to be able to launch your new kde from the "extras" menu like I am already doing with your old version. So, what I'm asking is, will this new version ask me which card to install to? And will it allow me to put it on my external card?
Hope I made myself a little more clear. Thanks again for all your help.

[penguinbait]

I'm already booting to SD, but I do not want to boot to KDE. So I guess I need to stear clear of the "boot to sd deb". I want to keep this KDE install away from my internal SD that I am already booting from. Thats why i want to install this new KDE to external. I would like to still boot hildon from my internal card like I have been doing. Sorry if I am confusing you. I just want to replace the old version of kde that I have on my external with this new one and keep all my boot settings the same. I want to be able to launch your new kde from the "extras" menu like I am already doing with your old version. So, what I'm asking is, will this new version ask me which card to install to? And will it allow me to put it on my external card?
Hope I made myself a little more clear. Thanks again for all your help.



NO NO NO, this is all wrong

There is a deb, it installs KDE v3 on the partition you are booted to. It does not boot to KDE. If you want to use KDE, start it from the extras menu in Hildon.

kde-installer-v3.deb


There is another DEB

kde-boot.deb

This is a very small DEB what will switch it so you boot to KDE insead of hildon, if you remove it, it will again boot from Hildon.
If you boot to KDE, you can still logout of KDE and get back to hildon.

Is this clearer yet???????? (Reread post #6, does it make more sense now?)

(IF YOU ARE USING THE INSTALL MADE EASY DEBS YOU CANNOT UPGRADE, it would have to be completely removed)

I am confused exactly what the issue is?

[supergadgetman]

NO NO NO, this is all wrong

There is a deb, it installs KDE v3 on the partition you are booted to. It does not boot to KDE. If you want to use KDE, start it from the extras menu in Hildon.

kde-installer-v3.deb


There is another DEB

kde-boot.deb

This is a very small DEB what will switch it so you boot to KDE insead of hildon, if you remove it, it will again boot from Hildon.
If you boot to KDE, you can still logout of KDE and get back to hildon.

Is this clearer yet???????? (Reread post #6, does it make more sense now?)

(IF YOU ARE USING THE INSTALL MADE EASY DEBS YOU CANNOT UPGRADE, it would have to be completely removed)

I am confused exactly what the issue is?

Ok I understand now. Thanks for clearing it up for me. I was in the process of unistalling the old kde on my external from application manager, but now Im in a boot menu loop and cant boot to my internal anymore. Oh well. As soon as I get this problem cleared up I will be installing your new kde. Thanks again for yourtime and patience.

[supergadgetman]

I dont suppose you have a quick-n-easy fix for recovering from a boot menu loop? I just uninstalled the old kde from application manager and rebooted my n800. It comes to the Boot menu, I choose "MMC card, partition2, ext2". The blue line goes 95% across the bottom, then it reboots back to the boot menu. Its weird because kde wasnt even installed on the card that I boot from (mmc2). My card doesnt appear to be corrupted so I am at a loss. Any ideas?

[b-man]

This is grait!!!! thanks penguinbait!!!:D

[penguinbait]

I dont suppose you have a quick-n-easy fix for recovering from a boot menu loop? I just uninstalled the old kde from application manager and rebooted my n800. It comes to the Boot menu, I choose "MMC card, partition2, ext2". The blue line goes 95% across the bottom, then it reboots back to the boot menu. Its weird because kde wasnt even installed on the card that I boot from (mmc2). My card doesnt appear to be corrupted so I am at a loss. Any ideas?

I am really confused about your setup.

I think you are saying, that you have an n800
it has bootmenu installed and you were booting from SD.

You installed KDE into your boot from SD partition using . . .

KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14680


If this is the case, this was not a supported configuration and I am unsure what has happened. Its really hard to say off the top of my head.

The problem is that the "KDE/Koffice Install made easy for everyone" was made to run from flash, so removing it from a boot from SD partition may leave a configuration file somehow depending on booting to flash.

It was not intended to work this way, and I am surprised it booted after you installed it.

________________________

If this is not the case, and my assumptions are wrong?

Then please provide me with (exactly) how you installed KDE

[supergadgetman]

A few months ago I installed kde 3.5 into my external mmc1 using the "KDE install made easy". I didnt want to boot into kde since I already had my os cloned to sd and was booting to mmc2 just fine. This setup has been working fine and whenever I wanted run kde, I simply launched it from the extra's menu. Today I saw your new version that supported bluetooth mice so I of course wanted to use that version instead. After a few questions that you graciously answered for me I was ready to try your new version. So I proceeded to uninstall my version of kde from application manager. I figured I could just uninstall the version that I had and install the new version. You did explain that this new version would install on my internal mmc2 since that is what I boot to. And I was fine with that since you told me I could still boot to Hildon. I tried to uninstall my version of kde using application manager and I was at the last file wich was the kdesup 3.5.8 deb. It gave me an error and told me it could not be uninstalled. I rebooted my n800 and that is were the problems started. I cant boot to my internal mmc2 anymore. I find that odd because kde wasnt even installed on that card. It just keeps going to a boot loop and I end up back at the boot menu. I fully understand your whole process now, but I am in a whole other mess and havent even had the chance to try your new version. I might end up having to format my card, redo my whole os clone again, and reinstall all my apps again. Im not sure, but I cant boot to my internal mmc2 for now and thats where my whole os and apps were located. I can boot to flash, but of none of my apps are installed to flash. Well anyway thanks for all your help. I'll try a lil longer to get thing this booted up. If not I'll just format and use your automated process of cloning the os to the card. When I originally cloned my os to card a few months ago I used the long drawn out process of manually typing all the commands in xterm. I'll use your quick automated process this time, then once I'm up I'll try your new version of kde. Thanks again!!

[ebrindle]

Well, I'm into my second day of trying to install v3...

Seems that I get the first payload downloaded and installed...
but the second one seems to be in a loop of wget - check md5sum
and go back to wget... looking at the install script confirms this.
4hours + and counting...

Did the 2nd file get an update that my installer has an old md5sum for?

The installer deb file was downloaded yesterday afternoon.

Anyone else seeing this?

[penguinbait]

Well, I'm into my second day of trying to install v3...

Seems that I get the first payload downloaded and installed...
but the second one seems to be in a loop of wget - check md5sum
and go back to wget... looking at the install script confirms this.
4hours + and counting...

Did the 2nd file get an update that my installer has an old md5sum for?

The installer deb file was downloaded yesterday afternoon.

Anyone else seeing this?

open xterm and rm the file, it will download again, it must be a corrupt file

as root
rm /root/kde-installer/SUPv3.tgz

Let it finsh

[supergadgetman]

Penguinbait,
Installed your easy method of cloning the os to sd and then installed kde to my boot card. All is running well on my 16gig transcend sd card. Do I still need to enable my virtual memory with this setup?
Thanks again

[penguinbait]

Penguinbait,
Installed your easy method of cloning the os to sd and then installed kde to my boot card. All is running well on my 16gig transcend sd card. Do I still need to enable my virtual memory with this setup?
Thanks again

I have not seen this personally, since I only have 8GB. I think it should have created 1GB swap partition.

Can you open xtern and type "free"

and Paste the output here?

It should be already working, 8GB will have 512MB SWAP. I am just not sure if 1GB would be supported, but 512 is so your proabably good...

Glad to see your up, failry easy process??

[supergadgetman]

I have not seen this personally, since I only have 8GB. I think it should have created 1GB swap partition.

Can you open xtern and type "free"

and Paste the output here?

It should be already working, 8GB will have 512MB SWAP. I am just not sure if 1GB would be supported, but 512 is so your proabably good...

Glad to see your up, failry easy process??

$ free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 126828 124780 2048 0 752
Swap: 980888 9940 970948
Total: 1107716 134720 972996
~ $

Here is what xterm says. looks like i have a 1 gb swap file? So no need to enable virtual memory in control panel??

The whole process was pretty painless. so much easier than doing it manually like i originally did a few months back.

[penguinbait]

$ free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 126828 124780 2048 0 752
Swap: 980888 9940 970948
Total: 1107716 134720 972996
~ $

Here is what xterm says. looks like i have a 1 gb swap file? So no need to enable virtual memory in control panel??

The whole process was pretty painless. so much easier than doing it manually like i originally did a few months back.

Yup 1GB swap, working, sweet.

I may create another clone script with some ability to specify sizes for partitions. So you do not have to give so much space for swap. Also people like to control the FAT sizes too.

But its definetly the quickest and easiest way to clone your system right now.

[PinCushionQueen]

Yup 1GB swap, working, sweet.

I may create another clone script with some ability to specify sizes for partitions. So you do not have to give so much space for swap. Also people like to control the FAT sizes too.

But its definetly the quickest and easiest way to clone your system right now.

I would officially like to request the ability to control FAT/ext2 sizes. The main reason I would want to even do all the work for a KDE update is because I was wanting to resize my ext2 partition at the same time. I don't use the FAT at all.

It will be a lot of work for me to upgrade from KDE v2 -> v3 not because of the installation process but because of the tons of customization (hotkeys, desktops, shortcuts, window sizing etc..) that I've done with my existing KDE. Without the added bonus of more ext2 (for installing more apps) I'm not sure it is worth the work.

So sorry PenquinBait. I know you've worked very hard on this and I don't mean to offend you in any way. I'm just being honest about why I haven't jumped in just yet.

[penguinbait]

I would officially like to request the ability to control FAT/ext2 sizes. The main reason I would want to even do all the work for a KDE update is because I was wanting to resize my ext2 partition at the same time. I don't use the FAT at all.

It will be a lot of work for me to upgrade from KDE v2 -> v3 not because of the installation process but because of the tons of customization (hotkeys, desktops, shortcuts, window sizing etc..) that I've done with my existing KDE. Without the added bonus of more ext2 (for installing more apps) I'm not sure it is worth the work.

So sorry PenquinBait. I know you've worked very hard on this and I don't mean to offend you in any way. I'm just being honest about why I haven't jumped in just yet.

Seriously PCQ, I understand. Its much easier to take this plunge when new IT os comes out and you will be upgrading anyway.

Also, since your already running v2 from SD card. All you need to do is backup /home/user/.kde and untar SUPv3.tgz from root

tar czvf /home/user/dotkde.tgz /home/user/.kde

cd /
tar zxvf /home/user/SUPv3.tgz


If you dont like the outcome, you should be able to just move or delete your .kde and untar the original.

It will add all the software and script updates.

WARNING WARNING WARNING. As with your boot from KDE deb issue. It may cause a problem which would then force you to upgrade or redo your system anyway.

So again I completely understand. You should just buy another SD card, clone to it and upgrade. Once you got everything working in new SD switch over.

Again this is money,

Anyway, please dont feel bad, again I truly appreciate your support..


Also, I will work on the new deb, give me a week or so.

[Westy]

Monitoring the install of kde-installer-v3 I notice that the main file, the Tarball, is KDE358v2.tar.bz2? Is this just a case of not renaiming it for simplicity and it is in fact v3?

I also lost my wifi connection during the install and then regained connection... its still seems to be working, which is nice, but geeze it is slow. I that your hosting again?


Now just need you to work your wonders with the "DEB to make your system boot from SD
" so it has two bootable drives on an 8 meg card. Then we can have one for KDE and one for debian. This would be super cool

Ta

[manfredi90]

Hi,
I'm reistalling KDE after the update to Diablo.
I downloaded the deb and the installation start, but when I controled the size of the 300MB file, I noted that the file didn't exist...
I suppose that the deb can't download the file from the server... why? can I download the file manually and put in the correct directory? :confused:

Thanks for the answer;)

[penguinbait]

Hi,
I'm reistalling KDE after the update to Diablo.
I downloaded the deb and the installation start, but when I controled the size of the 300MB file, I noted that the file didn't exist...
I suppose that the deb can't download the file from the server... why? can I download the file manually and put in the correct directory? :confused:

Thanks for the answer;)

Mine worked perfectly??

Try again?

The 300 mb file is downloaded, untarred and deleted and then another files is downloaded and installed and deleted.

[manfredi90]

I tryed againg, but nothing...
The program doesn't download the KDE file... I controlled the directory fram browser and terminal, and I controlled the file sistem space with the control pannel, but after 20 minutes the file doesn't appear and the free space is the same (1,29 GB).
The last time that I installed KDE with the same file I controlled the 300MB file size with the browser without problem...
Can you send me the link of the 300MB file? with this I can test If is a connection problem... :)

[penguinbait]

I tryed againg, but nothing...
The program doesn't download the KDE file... I controlled the directory fram browser and terminal, and I controlled the file sistem space with the control pannel, but after 20 minutes the file doesn't appear and the free space is the same (1,29 GB).
The last time that I installed KDE with the same file I controlled the 300MB file size with the browser without problem...
Can you send me the link of the 300MB file? with this I can test If is a connection problem... :)

What does this mean you controlled directory from browser and terminal?

Does the deb fail?

does the KDE file get created at all?

perhaps you can do an "ls" inside the dir and post so I can see whats happening?

[D'ohboy]

I had the same issue as manfredi90 about the KDE358.tar.bz2 file not downloading after upgrading to Diablo, but after manually installing wget, it finally downloaded. However, it never untarred.

[penguinbait]

I had the same issue as manfredi90 about the KDE358.tar.bz2 file not downloading after upgrading to Diablo, but after manually installing wget, it finally downloaded. However, it never untarred.

That makes no since, even if you installed wget it would make no difference. The installer has wget with it, and calls it from /root/kde-installer

I am running KDE with the installer on Diablo, installed last night and this morning wihtout issue?

BTW, I am hoping to put out an update to v3 today, just some small fixes.

[manfredi90]

I attach two screenshot taked from browser and terminal (with ls -l /root/kde-installer) after 15 minutes of installation... How you can see the 300MB file was not downloaded...
Any idea? Obviously the internet connection work fine...:(

[penguinbait]

I attach two screenshot taked from browser and terminal (with ls -l /root/kde-installer) after 15 minutes of installation... How you can see the 300MB file was not downloaded...
Any idea? Obviously the internet connection work fine...:(

???

How about anything in your application manager log? Its really wierd?

the files can be downloaded manually from

http://tablethacker.com/software


Can you get there with your tablet? perhaps DNS problems??

[manfredi90]

I confirm that installing wget manually your deb download the 300MB file...
It is very strange.
Now I'm downloading the file, I hope that this time work :)

P.S. I can manually download the file, so this is not a DNS problem;)

[penguinbait]

I confirm that installing wget manually your deb download the 300MB file...
It is very strange.
Now I'm downloading the file, I hope that this time work :)

P.S. I can manually download the file, so this is not a DNS problem;)


So your saying, if you install wget, the deb will then download?

I will look into it - any application manager logs???
-------------------------

This is how its called, so I am not sure how wget would effect it?
/root/kde-installer/wget -c http://www.tablethacker.com/software/KDE358v2.tar.bz

[D'ohboy]

Disregard what I said about untarring not working. I was wrong it does untar I was just so impatient that I shut down the tablet before it was done.

[penguinbait]

Disregard what I said about untarring not working. I was wrong it does untar I was just so impatient that I shut down the tablet before it was done.

Its happened to many, its best to wait until the DEB finishes :)

[manfredi90]

Confirm that after manually installation of wget all work perfectly.
I successfully installed KDE ;)
However I don't understand why I had to install wget... :confused:

[penguinbait]

Confirm that after manually installation of wget all work perfectly.
I successfully installed KDE ;)
However I don't understand why I had to install wget... :confused:

There is a missing library not on the new system, I use wget, so my wget was not working. I had tested but had previously installed wget already so mine worked.

You all are not crazy, its just me ;)

I will have v4 ready in a hour or two and I reccomend using v4 instead anyway.

[penguinbait]

UPDATED to v4


Whats new in v4, the problem outlined below, and Microb shortcut on the desktop.

Shortcuts added
CTRL + (hildon menu button) = COPY
SHIFT + (hildon menu button) = paste

updated the installer for Diablo.


have fun

[Underscore]

Yes! Thank you Penguinbait! So you have the microb-in-kde fix built in now? Will have to try this first thing tomorrow.

[manfredi90]

Perfect! I'm installing the new version;)

[penguinbait]

Yes! Thank you Penguinbait! So you have the microb-in-kde fix built in now? Will have to try this first thing tomorrow.

Microb now just works ikn KDE thanks to Diablo.

there is a small problem with no bottom toolbar for microb, you need to use google, or bookmarks to get where you want to go, there is no location bar.

But it works fullscreen terriffic, in fact I am using it now

[manfredi90]

I just finisched to install KDE from the v4 version... all work perfectly and there wasn't the problem of wget... thanks!:D Then MicroB is fantastic and really fast.
Is there any solution to insert the location bar?:confused:

[penguinbait]

I just finisched to install KDE from the v4 version... all work perfectly and there wasn't the problem of wget... thanks!:D Then MicroB is fantastic and really fast.
Is there any solution to insert the location bar?:confused:

not yet, bookmarks or google for now

[penguinbait]

NEW UPDATE
xmodmap.desktop was left off the deb, so install this if you want these shortcuts (see below) you need to install this deb.
Then you will have the following shortcuts
(Fn + >) TAB Key
(Fn + <) | (PIPE KEY)

Install http://penguinbait.com/kde-xmodmap.deb

You need to restart KDE

[albright]

To make a long story short, my n810 died, was replaced
and the new (that is "refurbished") one arrived yesterday.

Just in time for Diablo and kdev4 :) :)


Everything is wonderful, but, PB, where is the script
that checks the battery (I want to change the alarm
to 10%).

Thanks

[model citizen]

Thanks for the great work penguin bait, it made it easy even for me. One question / request - i know you can already boot straight to kde but would it be possible to have a choice to boot straight to kde OR os2008 on the boot menu? (on same mem card) Thanks
Adam

[penguinbait]

Thanks for the great work penguin bait, it made it easy even for me. One question / request - i know you can already boot straight to kde but would it be possible to have a choice to boot straight to kde OR os2008 on the boot menu? (on same mem card) Thanks
Adam

Sorry no, this is not possible at this time.

[penguinbait]

To make a long story short, my n810 died, was replaced
and the new (that is "refurbished") one arrived yesterday.

Just in time for Diablo and kdev4 :) :)


Everything is wonderful, but, PB, where is the script
that checks the battery (I want to change the alarm
to 10%).

Thanks

I have no idea, I think its like btst.sh in /usr/local/bin

I am looking it up now

yup /usr/local/bin/btst.sh

if expr 20 \>= $STATUS

[model citizen]

Sorry no, this is not possible at this time.

Ahh no worries, thanks anyway

Adam

[setasai]

Is it possible to make the Chr button into the Alt modifier key using xmodmap of course... if it is... how would I go about setting it?

Sai

[penguinbait]

Is it possible to make the Chr button into the Alt modifier key using xmodmap of course... if it is... how would I go about setting it?

Sai

Well I dont know exactly. xmodmap is installed, so reading and testing. I use xmodmap to give me (tab) and (pipe) keys but I am no expert I had to learn to get those working. I would suggest creating a new thread for xmodmap, or do some googling...

good luck!

if you get it figured out I would be hnappy to include it in future updates

[setasai]

Actually... that was pretty easy. All i did was modify your .xmap file.

I just changed the line for "keycode 135 = Multi....." to...

keycode 135 = Alt_L Alt_L Alt_L

not sure if it needed all those repeats but i saw a ton of repeats there to begin with and so i just replaced the existing thing and turned it into Alt_L.

Then i just restarted KDE and it seems to work.

Hopefully, by doing so I didnt break anything.

Anybody with more knowledge on xmodmap please chime in and tell me what else i messed up by doing a simple substitution.

[penguinbait]

Actually... that was pretty easy. All i did was modify your .xmap file.

I just changed the line for "keycode 135 = Multi....." to...

keycode 135 = Alt_L Alt_L Alt_L

not sure if it needed all those repeats but i saw a ton of repeats there to begin with and so i just replaced the existing thing and turned it into Alt_L.

Then i just restarted KDE and it seems to work.

Hopefully, by doing so I didnt break anything.

Anybody with more knowledge on xmodmap please chime in and tell me what else i messed up by doing a simple substitution.


Just curious, when you (if you) go back to maemo, does that mess up the key? Or does it get reset when the new window manager opens?

[setasai]

good question... I rarely go back to Maemo now that I got used to KDE but I went back to maemo, opened up Notes and hit the Chr key and it seems to be working as usual but then again I havent used the Chr key that often so I'm not entirely sure what its supposed to look like.

Try it out and see I guess.

[iolsmit]

Hi there,
first I wanna thank all participating in this community and esp. the persons who contribute packages/instructions/help etc.

Then I'd like to hear some opinions on my planed update strategy for my N810:

I've still installed RX-44_2008SE_2.2007.51-3_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM,
I cloned the OS to the 2GB internal flash (mmc, partitioned and formated as listed below) without KDE:

Device Boot Start End MiB #blocks Id System
/dev/mmcblk0p1 0+ 255 256- 262143+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/mmcblk0p2 256 1919 1664 1703936 83 Linux


I want to upgrade to Diablo - flash the device with the new OS2008 image then clone the OS to the internal 2GB-"mmc" (ext3 formated + swap partition).
Then boot from the "original" (i.e. non-mmc) partition and mount the internal mmc over usb to my desktop linux system.
Download KDE358v2.tar.bz2 (http://www.tablethacker.com/software/KDE358v2.tar.bz2) and SUPv4.tgz (http://www.tablethacker.com/software/SUPv4.tgz) to the desktop and extract them to the internal mmc of the N810

Now some questions:

Can it be done this way? I did it with an earlier OS version and an external mini-SD card - so I guess it should also work with the internal 2GB - right?
How large is a system with OS2008 and KDE in MB (not the space needed to install it - but the final size when everything is installed and all installation files are deleted) ?
What partition scheme would you recommend ? (Are 256 MB swap enough for KDE ?)

And I do know that I can add a mini-SD card with more than 2 GB and use that, but I would prefer the internal 2GB - if possible.
Any other recommendations?

Cheers,
:D

[penguinbait]

Hi there,
first I wanna thank all participating in this community and esp. the persons who contribute packages/instructions/help etc.

Then I'd like to hear some opinions on my planed update strategy for my N810:

I've still installed RX-44_2008SE_2.2007.51-3_PR_COMBINED_MR0_ARM,
I cloned the OS to the 2GB internal flash (mmc, partitioned and formated as listed below) without KDE:

Device Boot Start End MiB #blocks Id System
/dev/mmcblk0p1 0+ 255 256- 262143+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/mmcblk0p2 256 1919 1664 1703936 83 Linux


I want to upgrade to Diablo - flash the device with the new OS2008 image then clone the OS to the internal 2GB-"mmc" (ext3 formated + swap partition).
Then boot from the "original" (i.e. non-mmc) partition and mount the internal mmc over usb to my desktop linux system.
Download KDE358v2.tar.bz2 (http://www.tablethacker.com/software/KDE358v2.tar.bz2) and SUPv4.tgz (http://www.tablethacker.com/software/SUPv4.tgz) to the desktop and extract them to the internal mmc of the N810

Now some questions:

Can it be done this way? I did it with an earlier OS version and an external mini-SD card - so I guess it should also work with the internal 2GB - right?
You mean manually untar instead of DEB? Sure just clone OS and untr those on top of it.
How large is a system with OS2008 and KDE in MB (not the space needed to install it - but the final size when everything is installed and all installation files are deleted) ?
roughly 1.35GB
What partition scheme would you recommend ? (Are 256 MB swap enough for KDE ?)
256MB is plenty

And I do know that I can add a mini-SD card with more than 2 GB and use that, but I would prefer the internal 2GB - if possible.
Any other recommendations?

Cheers,
:D

See answers underlined and bolded above

[iolsmit]

Thanks penguinbait,
so I guess I will keep the partition scheme with 256 MB swap and 1664 MB ext3, clone the OS and manually untar KDE and SUP.
Thanks for your work on KDE - btw. are jpegs working again for background pic ?
:D

[penguinbait]

Thanks penguinbait,
so I guess I will keep the partition scheme with 256 MB swap and 1664 MB ext3, clone the OS and manually untar KDE and SUP.
Thanks for your work on KDE - btw. are jpegs working again for background pic ?
:D

Sorry no, use png.

[iceman600]

i just updated to diablo today after knowing that there is another update that will fix the modest mail from failing on the background. as of now i have not getting an application error on my N810.

and after updating to diablo i try installing debian. i didnt like it. uninstalled it and installed the V4 of KDE.

all i can say is WOW!!! i like it a lot. i have no experience on linuxx or whatever this is but this KDE is great. i love it. thanks penguinbait.

i began exploring the kde and i have not experiencing a problem so far but have a lot of questions...

1. some windows, i think is extended downward and i cannot see the bottom part of it... is that normal? can i change the size of the window? i tried dragging it to make it small but no luck at all.

2. i used the swap key to have a right click and works perfectly. but dont know how to dissable it. so what i did is copy the right click command and paste it on the desktop so i can access back to left click. is there a shortcut to go back to left click after enabling the right click?

3. and one more thing.... what is the hildon button?

thanks penguinbait for this awsome work... im now a part of KDE family. hehehe


edit: can i install some programs on the KDE? or do you know a program i can use on Kde where i can DL some MP3... like limewire, seeqpod or something like that? and i like downloading torrent... is there a program for that on KDE...
sorry for a lot of questions guys... i just fell in love with KDE and dont wanna go back to hildon.

[webo_09]

Just a few questions...
i have already install kdev4 i have a N800
when i lock the screen i try to get back to normal mode and i press the on-off button and then i try to press the other button and nothing happen y try to turn off the N800 and nothing happens i dont know what to do can you help me?


PD: i dont speak english so sorry for my english if you dont understend something tell me

[intery]

"YOU MUST HAVE About 1.35GB FREE to start the KDE install process"

how i must have so much space if after install "boot and clone system" to internal storage of n810 it left only 1.26GB? 1.26 - 0.3=0.96GB

i did not find any info about this. How to resolve?

[penguinbait]

"YOU MUST HAVE About 1.35GB FREE to start the KDE install process"

how i must have so much space if after install "boot and clone system" to internal storage of n810 it left only 1.26GB? 1.26 - 0.3=0.96GB

i did not find any info about this. How to resolve?

It works on a fresh flash. If you have installed a bunch of applications you will need to free up space in order for the KDE install to complete or you will need a bigger card. If you uninstall the applications or remove some data? you can do the KDE install, then reinstall the apps or put the data back.

[Gourmand]

are this KDE and "boot from SD" work in Diablo?

has anybody video showing speed of this KDE on N810/Diablo?

[DeeJay_XB]

i've boot from sd with keblet v3 (not v3-full) installed but i cannot set wlan :-S

can you please post a "how to" for setting wlan??

[penguinbait]

i've boot from sd with keblet v3 (not v3-full) installed but i cannot set wlan :-S

can you please post a "how to" for setting wlan??


I have no idea about debian KDE. My kde is standalone on top of maemo

[penguinbait]

are this KDE and "boot from SD" work in Diablo?

has anybody video showing speed of this KDE on N810/Diablo?


Yes this is working on latest firmware, and all lower diablo.

Check out here for some shockwaves, but they are a little slow because VNC was running to do the recording...

http://tablethacker.com/wp/?p=89&lang=en-us

Viewed best under firefox

[Gourmand]

what about KOffice speed?
and better by videocamera :)

[penguinbait]

what about KOffice speed?
and better by videocamera :)

Be like Nike, just do it

or

like Mikey, he'll try anything

It will take you less time to install, decide you dont want it, and reflash, then it will be for me to create a video.

Koffice like all other apps run fine, any slowness is only related to startup times with koffice.

[vjktm]

Penguinbait,

THANK YOU!:D

Running on N810 with Chinook, 8G External Memory.
I was surprised that many Chinook applications are accessible from KDE.

Why would I want to go to Android when I have this (rhetorical)?

I have modified theme/desktop settings so that I have nice big icons on the desktop for my fingers (and my eyes :)). I wonder what settings I need to change to get the touchscreen to be more responsive to finger input.

Anyhow, this is a great contribution to the community.

vjktm

[pnunn]

Hi guys.. I must be missing something important here.

I have just tried this install and have ended up with the n810 stuck trying to do the md5 calculation.

Further investigation seems to suggest that I'm out of space on the root partition.

I setup the 8GB card using pd with 512 partition 1 (FAT), 6.6 GB Partition 2.

Nokia-N810-43-7:/media/mmc2# df -h
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/mmcblk1p2 4.0M 2.2M 1.8M 55% /mnt/initfs
none 512.0k 92.0k 420.0k 18% /mnt/initfs/tmp
/dev/mmcblk0p2 453.2M 452.0M 0 100% /
none 512.0k 92.0k 420.0k 18% /tmp
none 1.0M 68.0k 956.0k 7% /dev
tmpfs 1.0M 0 1.0M 0% /dev/shm
/dev/mmcblk0p1 1.9G 322.5M 1.6G 17% /media/mmc2
/dev/mmcblk1p1 511.7M 48.0k 511.7M 0% /media/mmc1


I don't know why the install is happening on / rather than on /media/mmc2 but I guess the root partition isn't big enough and I'll have to reboot into the internal card and try this all again.

I got the size information from another post talking about partitioning the flash memory.. but did I get this wrong?

Thanks
Peter.

[penguinbait]

Hi guys.. I must be missing something important here.

I have just tried this install and have ended up with the n810 stuck trying to do the md5 calculation.

Further investigation seems to suggest that I'm out of space on the root partition.

I setup the 8GB card using pd with 512 partition 1 (FAT), 6.6 GB Partition 2.



I don't know why the install is happening on / rather than on /media/mmc2 but I guess the root partition isn't big enough and I'll have to reboot into the internal card and try this all again.

I got the size information from another post talking about partitioning the flash memory.. but did I get this wrong?

Thanks
Peter.

This installs to root / and requires 1.35GB free disk space.

From the first post
"YOU MUST HAVE About 1.35GB FREE to start the KDE install process"

[pnunn]

Thankyou so much for this advice and code its all up end working now.

One minor thing I've found is that some windows are too big to see and control and they don't resize. For example the kmail account setup and mahjong. Any advice on these?

Thanks again.

Peter

[penguinbait]

Thankyou so much for this advice and code its all up end working now.

One minor thing I've found is that some windows are too big to see and control and they don't resize. For example the kmail account setup and mahjong. Any advice on these?

Thanks again.

Peter

Read the first post about the keyboard shortcuts. move window is your friend, as well as min and full screen.

[Empire]

Is there anyway I can lead the installation to an SD card? It installs in root but the partition for root is only total size of 249.5mb and 90.9 free. Im using Diablo 43-7.

[penguinbait]

Is there anyway I can lead the installation to an SD card? It installs in root but the partition for root is only total size of 249.5mb and 90.9 free. Im using Diablo 43-7.

This is for Boot from SD installations. Setup boot from SD, after OS is copied over, 1.35GB must be free to start the install. Boot to the SD partition and then install KDE

[theillien]

I ran the installer after fussing with cloning to my SD card. It ran cleanly with no visible errors. I rebooted and selected my external card but KDE didn't load.

Did I miss a step?

[theillien]

disregard. I'm running KDE now.

[penguinbait]

"Oh if you want to boot directly to KDE install this deb, built for v3 and v2 boot from SD



Does this apply to v4 as well? Has the reboot loop been fixed?

NO, I thouhgt I removed all the links to it.

Never got around to updating it sorry

[new-maemo-user]

Thanks a lot for this! I LOVE having Kontact, KOffice, and the other K's on there, but I also like Matchbox's onscreen keyboard better, and the fact that its menu doesn't always think you are dragging something. :)

I figured out how to run KDE apps directly on Matchbox. All of the KDE apps are located at "/usr/local/kde/bin/*". To get them to run, you first have to first run "export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/bin" at the terminal, and then run "/usr/local/kde/bin/kontact" or whatever.

It does have problems, though. For instance, tapping it with your finger does not trigger the onscreen keyboard. :( If the window is too big, it will just run over the window boundaries, and pop-ups don't work properly either. Kontact is not usable.

For small, simple applications, though, it works! (Printing and tray icons work too!!) The applications I wanted most, Kword, Juk, Kate, and Konqueror, all work well. Plus, you get the speed benefit of not running an all-out kde desktop. :D

[neatgear]

I have KDE358 running in the internal 2GB space and working great! Does anyone know how to access the microSD card under KDE? I can see it under Hildon but not under KDE? Do I have to mount it? TIA

[qole]

Is it not visible under /media/mmc1 or /media/mmc2 ?

[neatgear]

Thanks for the info. I can access under /media/mmc1 . I was going through the media shortcut and it doesn't see the external microsd card.

[neatgear]

Question:

I'm trying to install KTorrent from: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/ktorrent2.2

I trying opening with KPackage and it errors out with a bunch of missing packages. Isn't there a way to have it download the missing packages?

I'm a linux noob so bare with me. TIA

[pinguino89]

hi, i've installed kde and work fine and smooth, but i want to know, hy i've installed battery-status and it doesn't work...i cannot see in any way my battery status....
it says:
File "/usr/bin/battery-status", line 6, in <module> import gobject
ImportError: No module named gobject

or, if i click the battery icon, it shows a little popup where is written
"battery status="

but no numbers are written....

How can I resolve???

[zerojay]

Any chance we can get an updated version of this for kde 3.5.10?

[pinguino89]

The problem is in the battery-status itself!!! The program don't run in maemo too....

[pinguino89]

isn't there any solution to see the status of the battery?? ç_ç

[pinguino89]

Problem solved!!! I had to download pyton 2.5gobject ....

I've to ask if the battery drain in KDE is normal, i use it instead of hildon, aand i noticed that after a complete chargin, a night in standby took the 25% of the battery....
anyone knows why??

[qole]

pinguino89: put your tablet into "offline" (flight) mode and lock the keys when putting your tablet to "sleep". See if that helps your battery. I've found that some wifi networks require more power to stay connected, and you may have several applications updating themselves over WiFi all night.

[pinguino89]

I put the tablet in flight mode whenever i can to preservate the battery, and i always put it in standby iif i don't need it, and i use 2\5 of the luminosity...and the battery is litterally drained...infact I uninstalled KDE for now, I will try ubuntu ASAP, Mer 0.15 and now I've installed Easy-debian for now...

[McLightning]

installer link is broken :(

[penguinbait]

installer link is broken :(

Looks like my servers has gone wacky. Give me about 30 minutes it should be back up

[penguinbait]

installer link is broken :(




http://68.62.26.176/kde-installer-v4.deb

Use this link while I am waiting for DNS to propagate, sorry for the inconvenience.

Thanks,

pb

[pinguino89]

hi penguinbait, I was installing Kde on my n800, but it says unable to install (in my ext3 3gb partition...) is there a problem with the server???

how can I install it?

[penguinbait]

hi penguinbait, I was installing Kde on my n800, but it says unable to install (in my ext3 3gb partition...) is there a problem with the server???

how can I install it?

Could you try to install from command line perhaps it may give a better error? There needs to be 1.5GB Free before starting install on the booted partition. How long before it errors?

[pinguino89]

not long...3\4 seconds...

i will try when I have time to install via x-terminal

[penguinbait]

not long...3\4 seconds...

i will try when I have time to install via x-terminal

You know you need to be connected to the internet for the install to be successful. It downloads like 350MB

[pinguino89]

yeah I know...
and I'm connected...
but it say
"unable to install" sometimes after a while, sometimes right after I press ok...

[penguinbait]

yeah I know...
and I'm connected...
but it say
"unable to install" sometimes after a while, sometimes right after I press ok...

What does the Application Manager log say, can you paste it in here?

[BruceL]

Penguinbait, do you know whether your KDE will work on the N900?

[pinguino89]

so, penguinbait, I've tried to install on a completely clean reflash...
now it gives me error with either the Install-tools!!!! it stays on "installing" for a while, then it says unable to install...without giving me any reason!!!
(the same with Kde btw...)

are there problems with the code?? or is my device that is idiot?? ç_ç

btw, I'm connected to internet, don't worry xD

[pinguino89]

it doesn't install console-tools, it stops right after I click "install", giving "unable to install" without giving me reasons...

Kde-installer, when I tried time ago, gave me the same problem, but after a while it was installing...

are these packages corrupted?? or there are other problems??

[penguinbait]

it doesn't install console-tools, it stops right after I click "install", giving "unable to install" without giving me reasons...

Kde-installer, when I tried time ago, gave me the same problem, but after a while it was installing...

are these packages corrupted?? or there are other problems??


What does the Application Manager log say, can you paste it in here?



PLEASE POST the log from the application manager, its in the menu, in the application manager

[penguinbait]

Penguinbait, do you know whether your KDE will work on the N900?

I do not know, I do not have a n900, probably won't have one for a while :(

My guess is no, I believe the code would run, but the underlying OS has changed and is probably missing a bunch of supporting files used by KDE.

Sorry guys, I would love to recompile and put out something, but I just don't have the funds to buy an n900. It's Christmas and I have 4 kids 10-16, my hosting fees on tablethacker is due, and I am tempted to let it go. Just no way I will be doing anything new on the platform anytime soon.

It's funny, I was asked long before any devices were released, what I would do with a n900. I conveyed that I would re-port KDE to the n900 and try several other things that just ran too slow on previous platforms.

Apparently this answer was not what anyone wanted to hear? Sometimes I wonder if its just the troublemaker in me that causes all my problems or my lack of conformity?

We'll see, I am up on my phone contract, so if I could get two on them on a deal I would most likely take advantage. So far though, I am waiting for something more affordable, or for me to have some more cash perhaps after we recover from Christmas.

[BruceL]

I do not know, I do not have a n900, probably won't have one for a while :(

My guess is no, I believe the code would run, but the underlying OS has changed and is probably missing a bunch of supporting files used by KDE.

Sorry guys, I would love to recompile and put out something, but I just don't have the funds to buy an n900. It's Christmas and I have 4 kids 10-16, my hosting fees on tablethacker is due, and I am tempted to let it go. Just no way I will be doing anything new on the platform anytime soon.

It's funny, I was asked long before any devices were released, what I would do with a n900. I conveyed that I would re-port KDE to the n900 and try several other things that just ran too slow on previous platforms.

Apparently this answer was not what anyone wanted to hear? Sometimes I wonder if its just the troublemaker in me that causes all my problems or my lack of conformity?

We'll see, I am up on my phone contract, so if I could get two on them on a deal I would most likely take advantage. So far though, I am waiting for something more affordable, or for me to have some more cash perhaps after we recover from Christmas.

I am surprised to hear you weren't on the developer device program. When I had my 770 one of the things I REALLY wanted was to be able to print. Basically, the consensus was that it wasn't possible. But you did it. And I was shocked to find KDE working. It opened up the door to Debian and Ubuntu. KDE on the N800 is one of my favorite things to show people who ask "is that a phone?" I show them KDE with the bluetooth mouse and keyboard and say "No, it's a computer. See..."

So who knows why you didn't get one, but it doesn't reflect how valuable you are to the community. If it will help, I will donate $50 for you to get one. Maybe if some others do so too you can get one.

Anyone else in on this? Penguinbait is an important part of Maemo, and it would be a shame to lose him. (Not to mention, printing, KDE, CD-ROM drivers, etc!)

[penguinbait]

I am surprised to hear you weren't on the developer device program. When I had my 770 one of the things I REALLY wanted was to be able to print. Basically, the consensus was that it wasn't possible. But you did it. And I was shocked to find KDE working. It opened up the door to Debian and Ubuntu. KDE on the N800 is one of my favorite things to show people who ask "is that a phone?" I show them KDE with the bluetooth mouse and keyboard and say "No, it's a computer. See..."

So who knows why you didn't get one, but it doesn't reflect how valuable you are to the community. If it will help, I will donate $50 for you to get one. Maybe if some others do so too you can get one.

Anyone else in on this? Penguinbait is an important part of Maemo, and it would be a shame to lose him. (Not to mention, printing, KDE, CD-ROM drivers, etc!)


I was on the device program, its just not much help to me. Its Christmas time and a toy for me is not on the list, and the offer expires before the end of the year. I appreciate your offer, we'll see what the future brings. The pandora console is really more appealing to me at this point, their goals are more inline with what I want out of a device. However I have never held either of them so I can't really say what the future will bring. I am on the maemo community council and I am here for at least a few more months no matter what. I have been an avid maemo supporter for years, I do not anticipate this to change, I just may not be porting/hacking/using much on this platform in the future.

[McLightning]

wow :/ :/ i just shocked
nokia keeps loosin people :/

[lowtek]

hello everyone!, I'm very late in the game,

Having a few problems and hope someone can help me,


I am on DIABLO_5.2008.43-7, n800, and currently using KDE, based on the thread explaining how to install to SD card (but not booting from SD).

I was unable to install the last part, kdesup-3.5.8.deb, but since it was called supplementary, i wondered if KDE didn't require it so I tried KDE and it runs, starts up, looks good, however when i click the trash bin it complains that a certain directory already exists. Is that an easy fix?

is that what penguinbait meant by it not working in diablo, that it works just not completely?

basically what I'm wondering is:

Should I be on a lower OS than 43-7? if so, is it possible to downgrade?

Can I fix the trash bin error in xterm or in some other simple way?
As root, run

chown user.users /usr/share/mime/
chown user.users /usr/share/mime/Trash
^enter these using the red monitor icon (forgive my incorrect Linux terminology)

is there a method to replace hildon with KDE?

do penguins eat raccoons?

Thanks guys!

EDIT: found some answers on my own. Even with the trash bin thing fixed, am I unknowingly using a broken KDE, or should I be fine?

I wish we had a super/unified thread.

Answer to the trash bin problem I found here: http://talk.maemo.org/archive/index.php/t-15228.html

Tips:
Under settings > control center > regional & accessibility > keyboard short cuts, bind move window to the hardware menu key. you can now move windows that are two large for the display

[penguinbait]

Running KDE on Community SSU

I was having a problem getting KDE to run on community SSU because it looks like "ps -ef" is no longer working in Community SSU. I have filed a bug.

You can work around this ps errors while running KDE under Community SSU by creating a script to run ps.

Open xterm and become root and run the following commands.

echo "/bin/ps" > /usr/bin/ps
chmod +x /usr/bin/ps

This will fix the ps error and KDE problems starting under community SSU.

[totalizator]

The penguinbait.com is down. Where can I download the files?

[qole]

penguinbait.com works for me!

EDIT: But he is hosting it from his home network, so it might be a lot slower and not 100% uptime.

[totalizator]

I have tried many times yesterday and no go but It works now. Thanks for the info!

Any idea why the "boot to KDE instead of Hildon.deb" link has been deactivated?

[artron]

how make it multi boot using multiboot (N900)?
what item (item at multiboot.d folder) should be writen?

[Joseph9560]

anyone willing to help penguine get n900? if someone is keeping n900 turned off in a drawer for months, he might just clean off the dust and send it to penguine. I am sure he will bring more useful things to maemo!

or is anyone porting this further? i can see penguine managed to run kde on n900 well.