Maemo Summit: registration open and free [Archive] - Page 2 - maemo.org

allnameswereout

09-15-2008, 12:54 AM

[...]

The new rules cover liquids such as water and other beverages, gels, pastes, lotions and the contents of aerosol cans. Toiletries such as toothpaste, shaving cream, hair gel, lip gloss and creams also fall under the rules.

These are the rules for liquids in your hand luggage:
1. You can only take liquids and gels in containers of no more than 100 millilitres on board the aircraft.
2. These containers must be carried in transparent plastic bags.
3. There is a limit of one transparent plastic bag per person.
4. The volume of the transparent plastic bag may not be greater than 1 litre.
5. The transparent plastic bag must be re-sealable.

You may bring a suitable plastic bag from home. During the introductory period, free transparent plastic bags will also be given out at all Dutch airports.

There are two exceptions to the above rules:
a. Baby food needed during the flight;
b. Medicines needed during the flight.

[...] Link (http://www.eindhovenairport.com/index1.php?content_id=180).

Counts for whole EU, when you depart from EU airport, or change flight in EU airport. So, on way back, you'll have to go through this nonsense. Sorry for that...

If you use lenses they will confiscate your lense cleaner if large bottle so get a small one.

I also experiened on German airport that German Customs refused to speak English to me.

fpp

09-15-2008, 07:11 AM

Baloo

09-15-2008, 07:37 AM

Anyone have news on the logistics side of the presentation ?

I checked the maemo.org pages about the summit yesterday but am stille having trouble making sense of them :-)

Are the presentations still to be PDF-only ? Will it be possible to display live demos from tablets ? Should everyone make their own badges before coming ? etc. ...

Or is it all going to be one huge, impro jam session ? :-)

There will be video of the main sessions and when concurrent sessions are running I will have to decide which ones get recorded (depends on room logistics and if the talk will be interesting to video). In addition to this there will be audio only for most talks and .pdf's should be distributed too.

Does that cover it for you ;)

johnkzin

09-15-2008, 10:17 AM

I'm going to be bringing 2 N800s, a portable HDD, a camera, a battery pack, a hub, my bluetooth GPS, bluetooth keyboard, lots of spare AA batteries, lots of wires and connectors, etc... I hope they don't think I'm trying to build a bomb or something.

If you're really worried about it, you could always ask your hotel if you can send yourself an over-night package in advance (via the postal service, and not via courier). Put all of your batteries, wires, connectors, maybe the keyboard and GPS, into the package, maybe even some of your other stuff (since some airlines are charging for luggage these days).

You'll still have to do a customs declaration on the stuff, but at least you don't have to go through the inspection stuff at the airport.

johnkzin

09-15-2008, 10:28 AM

Laptop is in the headline. Headlines are hardly ever accurate, and you clearly haven't read the article. The article speaks about any device able to store data. That includes a DAP, camera, PDA, cellphone too, for example.

You clearly didn't understand what I said.

The article and policy might say "any device", but that doesn't mean that the TSA screeners are actually looking for "any device". It's kind of like traffic laws -- there are tons of them that don't get enforced because doing so would be impractical, inconsistent, and the enforcement agency doesn't have enough bandwidth to actually pursue them.

On the site TSA screeners aren't going to look for every data storing device and spend time flagging it or inspecting it. There aren't enough of them to spend that much time on it. They're going to look for the obvious ones, not the marginal ones.

johnkzin

09-15-2008, 10:35 AM

Besides that, I don't wish to be treated like an animal/criminal, and the last time I was in the USA it was heading that way. Fingerprints, iris scan, address, searching through all bagage, have to explain what I come doing. On SFO I even had to put my shoes off. Then again, thats California...

That's not just California. That's a reaction to the shoe bomber from the UK. Airports all over the US are expecting you to put your shoes into the scanner along with your carry-ons. That has caused more people to travel with flip-flops instead of shoes (easy on and easy off).

And, again, sending things like your liquids through the over-night postal service can help you avoid that.

johnkzin

09-15-2008, 10:39 AM

fpp

09-15-2008, 01:36 PM

There will be video of the main sessions and when concurrent sessions are running I will have to decide which ones get recorded (depends on room logistics and if the talk will be interesting to video). In addition to this there will be audio only for most talks and .pdf's should be distributed too.
Does that cover it for you ;)
Er, no, sorry :-)

Probably my question wasn't clear...
I wasn't asking about recording the presentations, but how *giving* one was going to happen.

Can I/should I bring my own laptop ?

If not, what format should the presentation be to run on the provided computer/projector ? PDF ? Impress ? Powerpoint ?...

Will there be some way to hook up a N8x0 to the projector to demo things from a tablet, or do I need to include the screenshots in the presentation ?

Just the logistics, really. OTOH, if I'm the only one dumb enough not to have found the answers already (quite possible), the others will enlighten me on Friday :-)

qole

09-15-2008, 02:28 PM

Well, I'm off in a few short hours. I'll be in the air all night, and I'll be getting in around 3pm on Tuesday.

Anybody staying at the Ibis Mitte Tuesday night? Meet at the bar or something?

brontide

09-15-2008, 02:29 PM

Er, no, sorry :-)

Probably my question wasn't clear...
I wasn't asking about recording the presentations, but how *giving* one was going to happen.

Can I/should I bring my own laptop ?

If not, what format should the presentation be to run on the provided computer/projector ? PDF ? Impress ? Powerpoint ?...

Will there be some way to hook up a N8x0 to the projector to demo things from a tablet, or do I need to include the screenshots in the presentation ?

Just the logistics, really. OTOH, if I'm the only one dumb enough not to have found the answers already (quite possible), the others will enlighten me on Friday :-)

Yes, bring your own laptop... but please, as a backup and for documentation, make up PDF's/image slideshow so you don't get stuck with no way to present.

There will be demo n8x0 ( I believe n810's ) for the projectors, no I don't know how they are connected, but they will be there.

Logistically I would also prepare slides/snapshots in case, for whatever reason, networks are slow or unreliable. We are packed to the gills and I would be very upset at having to rearrange/cancel slots at this point because you needed a 5mbps connection to complete your session.

If you have special or unusual needs please bring it mine ( Eric Warnke ) or one of the other organizers as soon as possible so we can get things moving

qole

09-15-2008, 02:32 PM

fpp

09-15-2008, 03:45 PM

Yes, bring your own laptop... but please, as a backup and for documentation, make up PDF's/image slideshow so you don't get stuck with no way to present.
There will be demo n8x0 ( I believe n810's ) for the projectors, no I don't know how they are connected, but they will be there.

Okay, thanks for the sound advice. I was prepared to go belt+suspenders anyway...
Logistically I would also prepare slides/snapshots in case, for whatever reason, networks are slow or unreliable. We are packed to the gills and I would be very upset at having to rearrange/cancel slots at this point because you needed a 5mbps connection to complete your session.
If you have special or unusual needs please bring it mine ( Eric Warnke ) or one of the other organizers as soon as possible so we can get things moving
Oh no, nothing of the sort ! :-)

brontide

09-15-2008, 06:45 PM

I am planning to run a demo from the tablet, but I'll make a PDF of some slides for "just in case" purposes. But I know a few of the "lightning sessions" (including mine) are supposed to be demos; it's going to be hard to demo something if all you can do is show static slides, not to mention disappointing for all.

I'm pretty sure we can get people in and out orderly as long as everyone cooperated. Flash will be run in the big room so all the A/V support should be there and ready. Both of my sessions will be non starters without some on tablet demo'ing of custom software.

allnameswereout

09-16-2008, 09:40 AM

You clearly didn't understand what I said.

The article and policy might say "any device", but that doesn't mean that the TSA screeners are actually looking for "any device". It's kind of like traffic laws -- there are tons of them that don't get enforced because doing so would be impractical, inconsistent, and the enforcement agency doesn't have enough bandwidth to actually pursue them.

On the site TSA screeners aren't going to look for every data storing device and spend time flagging it or inspecting it. There aren't enough of them to spend that much time on it. They're going to look for the obvious ones, not the marginal ones.Traffic laws you say. Well, police here need to write out X tickets a day. Thats their goal. So if they can get someone caught for 10 km too hard, they'd do that.

'Obvious' to TSA means e.g. 'black', or someone clothed in orange. It might become 'person with a lot of electronic devices'. Look, we won't agree, I think. My point is not what is most likely to happen with me as person. I know I will pass because I'm white, honest, Christian background, casually wear colourful clothes but wear representative clothes as well, and so on.

My point is that because there doesn't have to be a probable cause, and because its difficult to declare data legal or illegal, and because the hardware can be unlimited confiscated, I don't wish such to someone else who is (more) likely to be picked on.

qole

09-17-2008, 04:30 AM

well I'm here in Berlin; zero problems at airport security...

brontide

09-17-2008, 05:37 AM

well I'm here in Berlin; zero problems at airport security...

Yeah, "Guten Morgen" hand passport over... wait 1 minute.. stamp, "Danke"

So far my worst customs experience is still getting home to the US.

Texrat

09-17-2008, 09:46 AM

So far my worst customs experience is still getting home to the US.

Mine remains France (CDG). But NY (JFK) is a close second...

allnameswereout

09-18-2008, 04:26 AM

Glad to hear that qole & brontide. Welcome in the EU! *gives a flower* :)

I wish visitors to my country a nice welcome and nice stay. That way, they might even *gasp*... come back!

And JFK has a bad name...

fpp

09-18-2008, 05:56 AM

So what's the weather like in Berlin ?

Leaving tonight and need to know what to pack :-)

Reggie

09-18-2008, 05:59 AM

It's in the 40s to high 50s (F). Bring a jacket.

fpp

09-18-2008, 08:18 AM

Thanks Reggie. I wasn't betting on the Hawaiian shirt & shorts anyway :-)

Bundyo

09-18-2008, 04:05 PM

At least it is warmer than in Sofia. :)

qgil

09-18-2008, 04:17 PM

Hi, one recomendation for those willing to b helpful and useful tomorrow in the first hours of the Summit: come at 8:00am or at least way before 9:00. Specially if you ar a lightning speakrs you will hav that time to sort out things with a bit of quiteness. You can also help sorting and distributing batches to avoid queues of people landing.

I will be there at 8, like many c-base people. The show must go on!

bunanson

09-18-2008, 05:00 PM

Anybody know how to get wifi in their room at Hotel Ibis Berlin Mitte? Anybody get boingo mobile working? TIA,

bun

fpp

09-21-2008, 12:17 PM

Well, I hate to say this (only because Texrat will hate me even more for saying it :-) but... this was really fantastic, in more ways than one.

Berlin looks like a very special place, although I didn't get to see enough of it.

And c-base is probably the most special place in that special place :-)

The talks ranged far and wide, all over the board, from all sorts of people, and that really contributed to make this event one of a kind.

And of course, putting a face on all those long known names or handles was invaluable. There was so much Brownian movement that I'm sure there's still people I didn't get the chance to shake hands and chat with (like Anidel here). The ITT community was really well represented, I hope to meet the missing ones next time !

It somehow reminded me of those BBS hacker meetings back in the pre-Internet days, just bigger and more cosmopolitan. The way I'm crashing down now I'm back certainly feels familiar :-)

Thanks to everyone, especially Quim, for making this happen !

I hope the resounding (and somewhat unexpected) success turns it into a repeat event...

qole

09-22-2008, 12:43 PM

Yeah. the post-summit crash is hitting me bad, too. Might be something to do with the 9-hour time difference and the lack of sleep, though... Sunday was 33 hours long for me :(

But I heard more than one person there say it was a life-highlight. I just might have said it myself.

Texrat

09-22-2008, 12:59 PM

Coming back from Europe hits me harder than going to. I think it's the double time change.

But on a rare unselfish note, I'm glad you guys had fun!

&^^%%$$%!!!!...

qole

09-22-2008, 01:40 PM

We really missed you, Texrat. Your name came up a lot. Well, your screen name. A few of us mostly just used people's screen names anyway, even in person :)

fpp

09-22-2008, 01:52 PM

That's good of you Tex... I'm ready to wager that if there is a next time, you will make it and I won't for whatever reason of timing & placement :-)

One thing that I forgot to say is that I was really surprised and impressed (as I hadn't really done this sort of thing before) at how well the schedule worked, although it was really packed and not a little improvised... It went really fluid, and I guess it's no small thanks to the help that Quim got from people like Brontide here.

(yes, eric, I promise I *knew* I was running late ! :-)

TA-t3

09-22-2008, 02:02 PM

A few of us mostly just used people's screen names anyway, even in person :)Good I wasn't there then.. :D I must get myself a less SW-robot-like nick if I'm going to the next summit I think.

Texrat

09-22-2008, 02:03 PM

We really missed you, Texrat. Your name came up a lot. Well, your screen name. A few of us mostly just used people's screen names anyway, even in person :)

Yeah, I think my ears were burning to the frequency of Quim's voice... :D

Benson

09-26-2008, 12:32 PM

Good I wasn't there then.. :D I must get myself a less SW-robot-like nick if I'm going to the next summit I think.
But robot names are cool, man.

Anyway, you should go for something in 13375ρ34κ, if you have to change it. (More specifically, something other than TA-te; sounds like slang for a potato.)