Diablo BLOWS

[davidsco27]

You know, Diablo is a joke. The developers, 'scuse me, "ENGINEERS" should shoot themselves, just put themselves out of our misery. I haven't seen a crappier OS since Windows ME. All the talk about how great Open Source is supposed to be, and all I see is a bunch of untested beta software. Since updating to this hunk of junk, I have had nothing but problems. The E-mail app crashes, and displays erratic behaviour, 3rd party apps like Pidgin work, and then they don't. Media players like Canola and others, all "beta's" I know, are full of bugs and weakly written. If I wanted to be an unpaid beta tester, I would've signed up. I've wasted enough time filing bugs on "bugzilla" and the clowns ask vague questions and then forget about it. Hey, Nokia, let us know when you get this thing right, huh. They call us. We'll do lunch. WHAT A WASTE OF TIME

[Benson]

WHAT A WASTE OF TIME
Posting that? Why, yes. Yes, it was.

[davidsco27]

yea, whatever. Another geek genius speaks

[dick-richardson]

yea, whatever. Another geek genius speaks

Time for a commercially supported OS for you. They get paid to give sympathy. I haer the ipod touch is really cool.

[davidsco27]

Actually, I think I figured it out! Diablo is the Maemo/Nokia version of Vista. An actual DOWNGRADE from a working OS. NOW I get it!

[harpgliss]

Hi,

Interesting thread you have started.

First, I am not a geek or even vaguely familiar with Linux as an operating system but I do like Diablo and the NIT as a whole.

As for Vista, I like it too, so no sympathy for your points of view here.

Pretty much have to agree with Benson of this being a waste.

David

[MattZTexasu]

Here is my counterpoint:

Diablo rules!

[steelmaverick]

What a noob! You could have posted something like Diablows or something, at least make your subject snazzier.

Besides, your post had no intellectual or technical merit. I have therefore dubbed you a total waste of time, and you should donate yourself to medical research.

[gerbick]

Dunno. Diablo - and trust me, I pretty much disliked OS2008 in its first iteration(s) - seems to iron out the wrinkles that bothered me... now if only the software would catch up - such as video chat via Skype.

Memory usage is down, it's a tad bit faster, and some Flash heavy sites give it heck still. Like Meatloaf... two out of three ain't bad...

[davidsco27]

Hi,


As for Vista, I like it too, so no sympathy for your points of view here.

David

Oh, YOU'RE the ONE

[davidsco27]

What a noob! You could have posted something like Diablows or something, at least make your subject snazzier.

Besides, your post had no intellectual or technical merit. I have therefore dubbed you a total waste of time, and you should donate yourself to medical research.

I just LOVE it when board dorks use their hip cool "in-words" oooooh, SO kewl, geek, call me a "noob" or a "troll" And then, put on some clearasil, and go down and finish your peas, loser

[davidsco27]

Dunno. Diablo - and trust me, I pretty much disliked OS2008 in its first iteration(s) - seems to iron out the wrinkles that bothered me... now if only the software would catch up - such as video chat via Skype.

Memory usage is down, it's a tad bit faster, and some Flash heavy sites give it heck still. Like Meatloaf... two out of three ain't bad...

I'm weird. I like things to actually WORK. I leave the software development and beta testing to the geeks. When I spend $400 on something, I expect it to do what it should. If I wanted an experimental door stop, I'd ask for one. Of the 3 things I bought this for, it does none of them particularly well, although it used to do at least 2 of them better. This thing is as raw as fish at the fulton fish market. Inrefined, weakly executed, poorly supported and just not ready for prime time. Probably why I had to drive to another state to buy one and nobody seems to have ever heard of it, let alone provide accessories for it

[ekarjala]

Let me know if you want to sell your NIT. Since you obviously don't want something so unusable it shouldn't cost me much, right?

[davidsco27]

Yea, but to you, it's probably worth $1000

[dick-richardson]

So flash it back or get something else.

[Benson]

If you knew how entertaining your ravings were to us, um, "board dork geek genii", you'd have to try to find a way to charge us.

And I almost think I'd pay.

[Dr Tran]

Inrefined, weakly executed, poorly supported and just not ready for prime time.
Most of the reviews I've read warn you about this.


Probably why I had to drive to another state to buy one and nobody seems to have ever heard of it, let alone provide accessories for it
So you're posting on the internet right now. Do you know you could have bought it on the internet? You could have saved gas money. You could have paid less than the $400 you spent on a tablet.

Perhaps you need to do more vetting in the purchases you make in the future.

[davidsco27]

So flash it back or get something else.


Tried that, but since some apps work only in Diablo, and some only in Chinook, it caused more problems then it resolved. You know, there's some nice features of the NIT. The inexpensively replaced battery, the MM card, though I can NOT for the life of me, figure out what genius came up with the idea to use a Mini card instead of a regular SD card. It's like for every good idea, someone had them around the balls and choked something stupid out of them. Oh, and don't lose a stylus!

[davidsco27]

Most of the reviews I've read warn you about this.


So you're posting on the internet right now. Do you know you could have bought it on the internet? You could have saved gas money. You could have paid less than the $400 you spent on a tablet.

Perhaps you need to do more vetting in the purchases you make in the future.

I had some Best Buy bucks to use, so I bought it there. Not ONE of their stores in my area carried it, and nobody else does. Could've gotten it from Amazon, but it would've cost more, and I wanted the ability to see it and return it if possible. It actually worked better when I first got it then now

[Thesandlord]

Can I ask what is fundamentally wrong with Vista? When XP came out, everyone was acting the same way! I have had less blue screens with Vista than XP, BETTER plug and pray support, and more features. You can disable UAC, so it is not annoying, etc etc...

Anyway, if you don't like it, why have you not returned it or sold it? That is what I don't understand. I don't like somethings about the N810 also, mostly the lack of programs with a good tablet UI and stable programs. But, I don't rant about it, and if I really felt like that, I would sell it and buy an iPod touch or and Archos.

Also, if no one has ever heard of it (ok, no one HAS heard of it except like GEEKS and NERDS), and there are no accessories (not really true), then would it not make sense that there is no strong commercial development, or that Nokia does not really care THAT much? Its a trade off, buy a commercial system that limits you (i.e. iPhone), or buy a niche device with less suport (i.e. N810).

Yea, its 400 bucks. I think it was too expensive, but you buy what you buy. I expected the tablet to be much faster/better, but the reality is that it is not... And I am still happy.

[harpgliss]

Hi,

If you knew how entertaining your ravings were to us, um, "board dork geek genii", you'd have to try to find a way to charge us.

And I almost think I'd pay.


I have been finding this stuff entertaining also.

Btw, davidsco27 it is unrefined, not inrefined.

I know Vista has spell check capabilities, does your system have it?


David

[eliagp]

Can I ask what is fundamentally wrong with Vista? When XP came out, everyone was acting the same way! I have had less blue screens with Vista than XP, BETTER plug and pray support, and more features. You can disable UAC, so it is not annoying, etc etc...
Its painfully slow on NEW computers. My sister got a tablet pc, shiny new, top of its line, and it was slower doing simple tasks than my much older, less powerful and much more full of random programs, desktop PC.
Yes its pretty and has some nice features, but come on, the first thing that you can ask from a newer OS its that its at least as good as the last one. And I think Diablo its getting there, but it has taken a lot of bumps.

[davidsco27]

I happen to run a PC support business supporting over 650 clients and have over 16 years Windows experience. I don't think I could fit all that is wrong with Shitsta into this box. No, it's NOT the same as when XP came out. I remember that well. The Primary difference was that XP was a significant improvement over it's predecessors. It is faster, more stable, more plug and playable and easier to use than 98, ME, or 2000 was. It eliminated the 16 bit bottleneck. Vista is none of the above. It is SLOWER, even with the added hardware, it is more annoying, no, asking you before you do anything is NOT security, just as surely as making you sign into a big building before you can enter isn't. it's an annoyance to the user, but does NOTHING to stop those who wish to get around it. Familiar apps and controls are moved and renamed for NO logical purpose, and it just plain offers the user ZERO practical improvements over it's predecessor. Sorry, prettier doesn't justify it.

I have been considering selling it. Pre-Diablo, it actually worked pretty well. I was initially excited by Diablo's release, though why it took so long for Nokia to come up with the ability to upgrade without a reflash is beyond me. But ever since the upgrade, things have gone downhill. First with the e-mail unreliability, now with the loss of Pidgin, and ho substitute. It has a few advantages over an Ipud Touch, but the advantages are beginning to tip. In the end, I need ease of use, quickness of interface and reliability. I strongly believe in KISS, and the NIT is anything but.

As for accessories. have you lost a stylus??? Try getting a replacement. I had to search high and low to get a car mount that was usefull. A case I finally found barely fits. Other than that, forget it, at least in the US

[davidsco27]

Hi,




I have been finding this stuff entertaining also.

Btw, davidsco27 it is unrefined, not inrefined.

I know Vista has spell check capabilities, does your system have it?


David


It always amazes me when *****s point out typos on message boards, like they try to make themselves more superior that way. um, idiot, does your computer have a spell check that works in forums, and that you use every time before posting?? if so, I strongly suggest you scour the marketplace for a life. Go to bed, zipperhead.

[harpgliss]

Hi,

You are the one who is coming off as needing some serious therapy.

I don't need to point out your typos to show I am superior, your attitude and rants point that out for me.

Did you run out of Prozac and decide we needed to suffer as a result?
I think you are the one in need of some sleep.

David

[daperl]

My favorite part is this d*ck head's handle. Here he is going off on an OS and he actually has SCO in his name. Do you think he would mind if I call him f*cktard? Or would that be too geeky for him?

[GeneralAntilles]

I was initially excited by Diablo's release, though why it took so long for Nokia to come up with the ability to upgrade without a reflash is beyond me.


List some other embedded Linux devices that push over-the-air updates like this. Go on, do.

[Picklesworth]

I think a lot of us bought an internet tablet knowing ahead of time that what we're buying is more a piece of really nice hackable hardware with a Linux operating system and a reasonably open community environment. This sort of thing even hits OpenMoko, though, where people drop in expecting a totally finished product instead of a fun project. I guess we can't blame them in this case, since Nokia markets it as such, but the forums here make the former quite clear. This is a geek's toy and there aren't many like the N810 :)
Not that a finished product would kill me, of course.

[Thesandlord]

I happen to run a PC support business supporting over 650 clients and have over 16 years Windows experience. I don't think I could fit all that is wrong with Shitsta into this box. No, it's NOT the same as when XP came out. I remember that well. The Primary difference was that XP was a significant improvement over it's predecessors. It is faster, more stable, more plug and playable and easier to use than 98, ME, or 2000 was. It eliminated the 16 bit bottleneck. Vista is none of the above. It is SLOWER, even with the added hardware, it is more annoying, no, asking you before you do anything is NOT security, just as surely as making you sign into a big building before you can enter isn't. it's an annoyance to the user, but does NOTHING to stop those who wish to get around it. Familiar apps and controls are moved and renamed for NO logical purpose, and it just plain offers the user ZERO practical improvements over it's predecessor. Sorry, prettier doesn't justify it.


Ok, I am completely biased. I forgot to say this. Why, because my old computer was a Pentium 4 2Ghz, 512 MB Ram, Intel Graphics, and XP. My new computer is a Core2Quad 2.4 Ghz, 2 GB Ram, and Nvidia 8800, and Vista. So obviously my Vista experience was good.

But Vista is NOT Diablo. The only bad thing (personally) that came with Diablo is the loss of the webcam support in flash.

[harpgliss]

Hi,

My first day of research regarding a possible purchase of the NIT told me it was a work in progress.

That was a big draw, the potential of it far outweighs the shortcomings.

Anyone know what a zipperhead is?

David

[eliagp]

Oh and please chill with the personal attacks. Make your points in a respectful way, I assure you they are much more worthy this way. Going at each others throats never makes you look good, you guys. And calling names is the best way to get good points overlooked, as it makes you look greener than a preschooler.

[Benson]

Well, on my laptop, Vista really is a pain. I'm aware a good portion of the blame goes to HP for loading it down with junk as well as Vista, but it's much worse vs. a clean install of XP than my old laptop's OEM junk-laden 98SE vs. a clean 98SE, so either HP has gotten much worse with loading stuff down, or Vista is a bloated pig, or both. I'm inclined to suppose both.

I've not experienced any better PnP (though no worse, either), I've had perhaps fewer blue-screens, but negligibly few with either, and more features is not a good thing (unless it's the feature creep I want, of course).

[daperl]

Anyone know what a zipperhead is?

I think this was his attempt at an Andrew Dice Clay impression. He got the idiot part right.

[sjgadsby]

Oh, and don't lose a stylus!

Don't worry, Maemo 5 will be more finger friendly. The device with which it ships may not even have a stylus. Hopefully, you'll have better luck keeping track of your fingers.


At least eight stylus-based devices, and I've not yet lost a single plastic stick. What do people do with these things?

[eliagp]

Imagine, you are in a room with kids, and your granparents amongst a variety of people. Then check that wathever you're posting can be said out loud in such room.
Make the internet a nicer place......Pretty please with sugar on top?

[harpgliss]

Hi,

He got the idiot part right.

Me?

Ouch, have we met before?


David

[GeneralAntilles]

At least eight stylus-based devices, and I've not yet lost a single plastic stick. What do people do with these things?

I'm baffled by this question as well. Maybe they're sticking them up their noses like crayons?

[daperl]

Me?

Of course not. Sorry if there was any confusion. I was referring to someone else.

[eliagp]

I'm baffled by this question as well. Maybe they're sticking them up their noses like crayons?

That reminds me of a certain Simpsons episode. It would certainly explain a lot XD.

Im very good at misplacing stuff, and far lar larger than a stylus, but so far, so good, I still own two. Had a couple of scares though. And I lost the case in university. Not that much of a loss though. I think my tablet was in far more danger when I had it.

[harpgliss]

Hi,

Of course not. Sorry if there was any confusion. I was referring to someone else.

Thanks for that.

Thought my secret identity was out.

David

[gerbick]

I'm weird. I like things to actually WORK.

See. It works for what I need it for. Wifi internet browsing, e-mail, and instant messaging when I don't want to whip out the laptop. It excels lovely in those areas for me.

Heck, I walked into a meeting with some clients, tapped into their wifi network - pre-arranged access - and showed them their website on a handheld that had a darn good screen since my laptop was the webserver for this experiment. All just to show them that the Adobe Flex project would run on the slowest machine they didn't have.

I leave the software development and beta testing to the geeks. When I spend $400 on something, I expect it to do what it should. If I wanted an experimental door stop, I'd ask for one. Of the 3 things I bought this for, it does none of them particularly well, although it used to do at least 2 of them better. This thing is as raw as fish at the fulton fish market. Inrefined, weakly executed, poorly supported and just not ready for prime time. Probably why I had to drive to another state to buy one and nobody seems to have ever heard of it, let alone provide accessories for it

It's been stated before in these threads and site ad nauseum. This is not a mainstream product. That's (in my opinion) not a bad thing. But the fact that you're talking about software development and beta testing - trust me, the open source community isn't really beta testing, it's more like a big crap shoot (gambling) where some apps or features are duplicated, and it's just all about finding an app that works best for you. In my case, it's Skype, Modest, Map, Xournal, Maiku, HomeIP, HomeMemFree, Pidgin or RTComm, and quite a few other apps.

My internet tablet allows me to type messages like this... while even on the toilet.

And if accessories are another problem, I just had a gentleman make me a pouch I'd be proud of in public. I think you should have done a bit more research and your outcome would have been totally different.

Good luck on your endeavors. It just seems like the N810 was not made for you. And that's not a bad thing. I use mine alongside my iPhone 3G which still doesn't have Adobe Flash.

[Bundyo]

Can I ask what is fundamentally wrong with Vista? When XP came out, everyone was acting the same way! I have had less blue screens with Vista than XP, BETTER plug and pray support, and more features. You can disable UAC, so it is not annoying, etc etc...

You'd know there's something wrong with it when some years after people are STILL acting the same way :D

[danramos]

That reminds me of a certain Simpsons episode. It would certainly explain a lot XD.

Im very good at misplacing stuff, and far lar larger than a stylus, but so far, so good, I still own two. Had a couple of scares though. And I lost the case in university. Not that much of a loss though. I think my tablet was in far more danger when I had it.

Simpons? Where are they from? BTW: I had one stylus slip out of my fingers and into the rails of the seat in my car and it's been there ever since until I can get the time to dig around for it. THAT one I didn't happen to lose.. but I'm sure glad I had the extra one to use in the meantime. And then there have been times when I've lost my Palm styluses.. but I mostly blame the ability of those styluses to roll off of tables. It just happens, sometimes. It would be particularly great to have some aftermarket replacements for just such events.

[Red]

I don't support any PCs, but I do run a network with three-thousand of them connected, does that count? I'm not a linux professional, nor am I any OS professional - I leave that to the OS guys - but I still get along just famously with both my Tablet and its Diablo OS.

It's true that flash does not run fast enough on some sites - making the BBC news website a particular pain in the ***, but that's easily got around by leaving it disabled, using a low-graphics version or a little greasemonkey/user css.

All in all though I fail to see what is so bad about either the ITs or Diablo. They are small-format devices that are hugely customisable, good all-rounders and easy to fit in a pocket. I can understand why people have strong feelings about them - in both directions.

Davidsco27, I am speaking directly to you here for a moment, although it is also applicable in a more general sense which is why I am not PM'ing it: Leaving aside any personal feelings I might have, they aren't relevant or appropriate in this forum, may I humbly suggest that if you find the device and its operating system so insufferable then you find a combination that is more appropriate to your particular set of requirements? You do seem to have a somewhat mercurial relationship with your Internet Tablet - almost Latin in its intensity - and I can't help feeling that you may be better served by a different device.

I don't mean this in a negative way, I just genuinely feel that given the posts you have made here, this obviously isn't the device for you. That's not to imply that you aren't good enough for it, or that it isn't good enough for you, merely that it isn't the device you want.

[xxM5xx]

My N800 came with 2 stylus. I have not lost one yet. The whiner is both clueless --and-- careless to quickly lose two stylus.

I love my N800(s), shortcomings and all.

[Johnx]

I happen to run a PC support business supporting over 650 clients and have over 16 years Windows experience.

Ah! Now it comes out. I get this from a lot of Windows admins when faced with having to learn another platform and realizing that their Windows knowledge doesn't apply to the larger world. There's resentment and frustration and they feel it must be the fault of the new system for not conforming to their expectations. Some long-time Windows users are willing to treat linux as a new challenge and learn about the differences and get over this initial learning curve. Some people get frustrated, blame linux for being different than windows and run away.

-John

PS: If you're really trying to tell me that XP would be faster than Windows 98 on a computer that originally shipped with Windows 98 you're a very confused person...

[benny1967]

At least eight stylus-based devices, and I've not yet lost a single plastic stick. What do people do with these things?

Trust me. You don't want to know (http://failblog.org/2008/07/17/do-it-yourself-fail/).

[Red]

:eek: Ookayyy...

/goes looking for the mind bleach.

[davidsco27]

Hi,

You are the one who is coming off as needing some serious therapy.

I don't need to point out your typos to show I am superior, your attitude and rants point that out for me.

Did you run out of Prozac and decide we needed to suffer as a result?
I think you are the one in need of some sleep.

David

Sure you're not a homosexual

[davidsco27]

My favorite part is this d*ck head's handle. Here he is going off on an OS and he actually has SCO in his name. Do you think he would mind if I call him f*cktard? Or would that be too geeky for him?

Idiot, SCO is short for my middle name. LOVE it when *****s prove their stupidity by opening their mouths. It just makes it easier to identify them, and then ignore. Did your folks have any kids that lived?

[davidsco27]

List some other embedded Linux devices that push over-the-air updates like this. Go on, do.

I knew it was only a matter of time until the 22 year old Star Wars geek would chime in. Nice to have all that free time on your hands, huh. Why does it have to be Linux based? Need I list other computers that push updates? I'd push them too, if I was getting free beta testing out of the deal.

[munky261]

To answer a question, a zipperhead is a racial slur against asians.

[eliagp]

Trust me. You don't want to know (http://failblog.org/2008/07/17/do-it-yourself-fail/).

¬¬ i knew i shouldn't have gotten curious and open that link.

to both davids fighting here: please do stop, I really feel you're using these forums to vent frustration, and believe me, they are not meant for that, and you are bothering the rest of the users.
I'm pretty sure you are both able to get into a civilized discussion without problems, if you just try.
Thanks
Elia

[davidsco27]

I think a lot of us bought an internet tablet knowing ahead of time that what we're buying is more a piece of really nice hackable hardware with a Linux operating system and a reasonably open community environment. This sort of thing even hits OpenMoko, though, where people drop in expecting a totally finished product instead of a fun project. I guess we can't blame them in this case, since Nokia markets it as such, but the forums here make the former quite clear. This is a geek's toy and there aren't many like the N810 :)
Not that a finished product would kill me, of course.


Sorry, I, like the average consumer, didn't even know about the forums here. I actually hate forums for the very reason we're seeing here. A LOT of wasted time, and a LOT of chest thumping

[davidsco27]

I'm baffled by this question as well. Maybe they're sticking them up their noses like crayons?

Mine slid out of the device somewhere when it was being carried to a job. As I couldn't find a suitable case, the one I have stays open on the end, and the stylus just slid out. I actually venture outside once in a while. You should try it. There's a WHOLE world out there that isn't inhabited by furry creatures roaring, or wearing storm trooper helmets

[arnd]

My N800 came with 2 stylus. I have not lost one yet. The whiner is both clueless --and-- careless to quickly lose two stylus.

I love my N800(s), shortcomings and all.

Well, after I lost one stylus (while travelling on the train after a long day) I decided to not risk the other one and I bought a multisystem pen from Lamy (pencil, ballpoint pen, stylus). Good decision IMHO, it is bigger than the original stylus (so it does not get lost as easily) and replaces the ball pen I was carrying around.

And I'm happy with my N800 as it does what I need it to do... and even a little more.

Arnd

[davidsco27]

See. It works for what I need it for. Wifi internet browsing, e-mail, and instant messaging when I don't want to whip out the laptop. It excels lovely in those areas for me.

Heck, I walked into a meeting with some clients, tapped into their wifi network - pre-arranged access - and showed them their website on a handheld that had a darn good screen since my laptop was the webserver for this experiment. All just to show them that the Adobe Flex project would run on the slowest machine they didn't have.



It's been stated before in these threads and site ad nauseum. This is not a mainstream product. That's (in my opinion) not a bad thing. But the fact that you're talking about software development and beta testing - trust me, the open source community isn't really beta testing, it's more like a big crap shoot (gambling) where some apps or features are duplicated, and it's just all about finding an app that works best for you. In my case, it's Skype, Modest, Map, Xournal, Maiku, HomeIP, HomeMemFree, Pidgin or RTComm, and quite a few other apps.

My internet tablet allows me to type messages like this... while even on the toilet.

And if accessories are another problem, I just had a gentleman make me a pouch I'd be proud of in public. I think you should have done a bit more research and your outcome would have been totally different.

Good luck on your endeavors. It just seems like the N810 was not made for you. And that's not a bad thing. I use mine alongside my iPhone 3G which still doesn't have Adobe Flash.

Was better when Pidgin worked. Unfortunately, both devices are a compromise. What one has, the other lacks, and THAT is the problem. If the Ipud had an SD slot, Flash, and an inexpensively user replaced battery, it would be perfect.

[davidsco27]

My N800 came with 2 stylus. I have not lost one yet. The whiner is both clueless --and-- careless to quickly lose two stylus.

I love my N800(s), shortcomings and all.

Genius, I lost ONE, as did MANY other people if you read the forum. But please, please, go on thinking you're superior because you haven't yet lost your stylus. 'course, it isn't hard when you haven't left your parents' bedroom in 10 years

[GeneralAntilles]

Idiot, SCO is short for my middle name. LOVE it when *****s prove their stupidity by opening their mouths. It just makes it easier to identify them, and then ignore. Did your folks have any kids that lived?

Now that's some quality irony right there.

These threads always have one good thing going for them: at least one absolutely flawless example of irony.

[davidsco27]

[QUOTE=Johnx;230926]Ah! Now it comes out. I get this from a lot of Windows admins when faced with having to learn another platform and realizing that their Windows knowledge doesn't apply to the larger world. There's resentment and frustration and they feel it must be the fault of the new system for not conforming to their expectations. Some long-time Windows users are willing to treat linux as a new challenge and learn about the differences and get over this initial learning curve. Some people get frustrated, blame linux for being different than windows and run away.

I don't have to learn Windows to make the computer work, and I don't have to learn Linux to make this work, I do, BTW, have an Ubuntu based PC as well. The point is, this doesn't work reliably.

[davidsco27]

Well, after I lost one stylus (while travelling on the train after a long day) I decided to not risk the other one and I bought a multisystem pen from Lamy (pencil, ballpoint pen, stylus). Good decision IMHO, it is bigger than the original stylus (so it does not get lost as easily) and replaces the ball pen I was carrying around.

And I'm happy with my N800 as it does what I need it to do... and even a little more.

Arnd


The problem is, I need it to fit in the device, as the original does. I don't want to have to carry around another piece

[possessedskier]

To answer a question, a zipperhead is a racial slur against asians.

The definition I know has nothing to do with Asians. I live and grew up in a former big IBM town. Back in the 60's, when IBM had over 15,000 employees here, they were all called zipperheads implying that IBM unzipped their head, dumped in all the IBM propaganda, and zipped it back up. IBM was God around here.

Back to the original topic (BTW, my forum editor does have spell check):
If you use rtcom-beta-os2008 you don't need Pidgin. Yes it's beta, but it works flawlessly for me.

My N800 is my favorite toy (well, maybe my second favorite toy). It is exactly what I expected when I bought it, a Linux device that can be endlessly configured. I never grow bored with it. If you did your research you would have known what it was before you spent the money. Anybody who spends that much money without doing the research first is a fool.

[zerojay]

Okay, I think what David is trying to say is that he doesn't like Diablo, but I'm not 100% sure.

I don't see the point of complaining about it and then coming and insulting everyone that would have or could have helped you through your problems, but hey, I'm only Linux geek, right? I'm not supposed to know about human interaction. :rolleyes:

[davidsco27]

The definition I know has nothing to do with Asians. I live and grew up in a former big IBM town. Back in the 60's, when IBM had over 15,000 employees here, they were all called zipperheads implying that IBM unzipped their head, dumped in all the IBM propaganda, and zipped it back up. IBM was God around here.

Back to the original topic (BTW, my forum editor does have spell check):
If you use rtcom-beta-os2008 you don't need Pidgin. Yes it's beta, but it works flawlessly for me.

My N800 is my favorite toy (well, maybe my second favorite toy). It is exactly what I expected when I bought it, a Linux device that can be endlessly configured. I never grow bored with it. If you did your research you would have known what it was before you spent the money. Anybody who spends that much money without doing the research first is a fool.

I looked at rtcom, didn't like it, and wasn't able to install it anyway. Too many dependencies. I did research, but there wasn't much available to me originally that I was aware of. Hindsight is 20-20. Like I have said, there are things that are nice on the NIT, and a lot that is missing. Unfortunately, as usual, no one device does it right. Had the Ipud an SD card, replaceable battery and flash, and wasn't married to Itunes, it would be about as close as you could get. I didn't buy one for those reasons, so one must weigh the plusses and minuses. The app store does give the Ipud a boost, though

[davidsco27]

Okay, I think what David is trying to say is that he doesn't like Diablo, but I'm not 100% sure.

I don't see the point of complaining about it and then coming and insulting everyone that would have or could have helped you through your problems, but hey, I'm only Linux geek, right? I'm not supposed to know about human interaction. :rolleyes:

I came on to make my opinions of it known and express my frustration with yet another broken app. If you read the threads, you will see I only responded in kind to the GEEKS who beat their chests and began the insults to justify their self-worth.

As an update, I just did manage to get Pidgin working again. I downloaded it from the project site on my Laptop, moved the file to my networked UPNP drive, and installed it from there, and for whatever reason, it worked.

:rolls eyes, passes gas, sighs:

[harpgliss]

Hi,

Sure you're not a homosexual

My wife found this one funny.

No, I am not a homosexual but thank you for thinking I might be.

As for who started what, you were the one hurling personal insults first and others just defended themselves, including me.

Interesting thing, a forum.

David

[davidsco27]

Hi,



My wife found this one funny.

No, I am not a homosexual but thank you for thinking I might be.

As for who started what, you were the one hurling personal insults first and others just defended themselves, including me.

Interesting thing, a forum.

David

uh, no, but nice revisionist history. You must be a republican. READ the threads. I didn't come on here to insult people, but the kids who play on these things do, in between rounds of Half-life

[possessedskier]

No, I am not a homosexual but thank you for thinking I might be.


If you were, you probably wouldn't be his type anyway and he'd just be disappointed. :D

[harpgliss]

Hi,

Just curious, are you able to get through one post without hurling an insult?

People might listen if you did not come off as the very thing you accuse others of.

You do not like Diablo, I think everyone got that in the first post.

You have spent the rest of the thread insuring the members here feel that way towards you also.

Is there a point to alienating the members here from your position or would you rather they share your position?

If it is the latter, you are going about it all wrong.

David

[davidsco27]

Hi,

Just curious, are you able to get through one post without hurling an insult?

People might listen if you did not come off as the very thing you accuse others of.

You do not like Diablo, I think everyone got that in the first post.

You have spent the rest of the thread insuring the members here feel that way towards you also.

Is there a point to alienating the members here from your position or would you rather they share your position?

If it is the latter, you are going about it all wrong.

David

AGAIN, I responded in kind to nimrods. End of discussion

[GeneralAntilles]

Just curious, are you able to get through one post without hurling an insult?

Don't feed the troll. ;)

[harpgliss]

Hi,

Don't feed the troll. ;)

Thank you for the advice, very good idea.

David

[davidsco27]

Don't feed the troll. ;)

ooooooooh, there goes the star wars geek, chiming in, I guess he must've completed a level on Middle Earth, took off his mask and ran to the board. You know, you REALLY shouldn't post your picture in your profile, it only confirms the obvious. But please, please, use more boss message board terms, it's SO neato peachy keen!!!

BTW, LOVE how this clown calls other's "trolls" when that's all this loser does 24/7 all over the board

[penguinbait]

You know, Diablo is a joke. The developers, 'scuse me, "ENGINEERS" should shoot themselves, just put themselves out of our misery. I haven't seen a crappier OS since Windows ME. All the talk about how great Open Source is supposed to be, and all I see is a bunch of untested beta software. Since updating to this hunk of junk, I have had nothing but problems. The E-mail app crashes, and displays erratic behaviour, 3rd party apps like Pidgin work, and then they don't. Media players like Canola and others, all "beta's" I know, are full of bugs and weakly written. If I wanted to be an unpaid beta tester, I would've signed up. I've wasted enough time filing bugs on "bugzilla" and the clowns ask vague questions and then forget about it. Hey, Nokia, let us know when you get this thing right, huh. They call us. We'll do lunch. WHAT A WASTE OF TIME

I have to agree with Benson, this entire thread is a waste of time. If you have some problem, point out what exactly it is an people will try to help you with it. Or perhaps expain why it is happening and what you are doing wrong.

Coming out here are crying throwing a tantrum is not really very constructive.

If you purchased something and it does not meet your needs return it. If its too late, sell it for what you can and take a loss. Thats life.

But for Gods sake, shut the f uck up you whiney 3 year old. Go buy a windows mobile device or an iphone, please do us all a favor.

If it does not meet your needs, thats your mistake. Please do some research before you spend 400$ and save us all the hassle.

[davidsco27]

I have to agree with Benson, this entire thread is a waste of time. If you have some problem, point out what exactly it is an people will try to help you with it. Or perhaps expain why it is happening and what you are doing wrong.

Coming out here are crying throwing a tantrum is not really very constructive.

If you purchased something and it does not meet your needs return it. If its too late, sell it for what you can and take a loss. Thats life.

But for Gods sake, shut the f uck up you whiney 3 year old. Go buy a windows mobile device or an iphone, please do us all a favor.

If it does not meet your needs, thats your mistake. Please do some research before you spend 400$ and save us all the hassle.


Or, I could be like some other dorks on here, and mention your spelling, OOOOOoooooo, you violated a forum axiom! Here's a clue, if it's a waste, and so bad, THEN WHY ARE YOU STILL READING IT?????????? hahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahaha

Loo ooooo ooooooo ZER!

[Reggie]

Here's the thing, if you are going to complain on something, propose a solution on how to fix it. It's always more constructive that way.

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