New Bluetooth Headset for the Nokia 770 2006

[Fidibus]

Hi,

i would like to buy new Bluetooth Headset for my Nokia 770 2006!

Invest (maximally) = 100 €

Which works very well

Thanks

Fidibus

can i use the bluetooth headset parallel with the bluetooth keyboard ?

[Fidibus]

and again a surprise - Nokia Shop says

at the moment there is no bluetooth headset support

Google Talk- or Gizmo- Telephone call - no connection under this number - or how !!! :mad: :D :rolleyes: :cool: :eek:

who has still another tip ?

thanks

Fidibus

[fredoll]

Bluetooth headset are not (yet) supported on the 770.
When it'll be supported, I'm sure you'll be able to connect it at the same time as your mobile phone, GPS & keyboard.
And any will do ...

Fred

[Fidibus]

Hi Fred,

and the solution up to then is ?

thanks in advance :)

Fidibus

[fredoll]

I simple search on Maemo Wiki gives :
http://maemo.org/maemowiki/BluetoothHeadset?highlight=%28headset%29

[gnuite]

and again a surprise - Nokia Shop says

at the moment there is no bluetooth headset support

Google Talk- or Gizmo- Telephone call - no connection under this number - or how !!!
Or, you can use the built-in microphone.

[Fidibus]

Hi Fred,

I am a Nokia 770 and I do not want to become Linux expert!

Exactly for this reason Linux loses many users

Fidibsu

[jurop88]

usually I'll try to avoid this kind of comments, but...


I am a Nokia 770 and I do not want to become Linux expert!

Exactly for this reason Linux loses many users


exactly for this reason M$ dominates the World: people don't like using their brains.

Simply, BT headset have not been scheduled in these releases of the OS, if you like to use one together with N770 you have to understand how it works and hack on it. It is not linux-dependant, the fact is that Nokia didn't foresight this use case or decided to postpone this matter in their roadmap for the product.

It wan't became a flame, this is not a religion war. The N770 is advertised as an internet tablet, the thruth is that it is a palm with a Linux OS. The fact that you can use it this way (and for example to have some road war wifi sessions, or as a remote terminal, or a gstreamer client, or...) is an extra, not something you can pretend!

[Fidibus]

people don't like using their brains

which I am to say - with such an answer

nothing - probably is the best solution

[Karel Jansens]

people don't like using their brains

which I am to say - with such an answer

nothing - probably is the best solution
I agree that it was not a nice thing to say, and IMHO it was wrong as well: I believe M$ dominates because most people see an operating system as a means, not a goal. Luckily, the people at e.g. Ubuntu appear to have grokked that.

[jurop88]

I like publicily ask sorry to Fidibus if he felt offended by my reaction.

It was not against him but against a common way of thinking who possess the majority of Joe users:


I am a Nokia 770 and I do not want to become Linux expert!

Exactly for this reason Linux loses many users


I understood his comment this way:

I have a N770 -> I need a BT headset -> how does it work? -> it doesn't work with a N770 -> huh, but there's a way to use it anyway -> huh, how much work! -> I do not want to become a Linux expert -> linux is hard -> linux loses many users

And I hope to have explained it with the rest of my previous message.

Many people works in order to let we have a good product, I personally bought my N770 because i loved the form factor, the screen and the battery life (this one was a major one), and the fact that it was an open source based product ensured him not to fall into oblivion if Nokia decided eventually to drop it.

Again, sorry if I used too hard terms, I had a hot reaction, I agree. But please, do not endorse Linux responsibility it doesn't have.

Back to the topic, afaik a BT headset is not officially supported. It is working with limitations and with some (lot of for a non expert) hacking on your 770.

[mwiktowy]

The short answer, it would seem after some amount of googling, is that BT headset support for the new OS under development but it is not yet available as there are a number of hurdles to overcome. The page at the Maemo Wiki pointed to in an earlier post contains dead links to code for the old OS.

Some of the problems are outlined here:
http://www.archivesat.com/for_maemo_developers/thread33483-1.htm

A posting that Nokia is looking at developing support for headsets is here:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.bluez.devel/6728

When we will see anything is unknown. Please bug Nokia if you want this as I suspect they will prioritize their development based on customer feedback.
http://europe.nokia.com/A4144793
via the Nokia 770 support link here:
http://europe.nokia.com/770

[JPB]

I don't have the info to "prove" this but connecting a bluetooth Headset (even it would be possible) will cause an other problem.
If the Nokia is like most Nokia phones it only has ONE bluetooth port. So connecting to your phone with bluetooth (GPRS/UMTS) AND having a headset will not work.
Same for a keyboard AND connecting to your phone.
Correct me if am wrong, so I learn something new....

[mwiktowy]

There is some good info here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth

But it would seem that the Bluetooth spec indicates that a BT master can have 7 other devices connected to it making up a piconet of 8 devices.

I only have one bluetooth device so I can't test the theory out. I have read of people being successful with BT keyboards and surfing the Internet through their BT mobile phone though.

[fpp]

I don't have the info to "prove" this but connecting a bluetooth Headset (even it would be possible) will cause an other problem.
If the Nokia is like most Nokia phones it only has ONE bluetooth port. So connecting to your phone with bluetooth (GPRS/UMTS) AND having a headset will not work.
Same for a keyboard AND connecting to your phone.
Correct me if am wrong, so I learn something new....
I haven't tried with three devices (like adding a BT keyboard), but definitely being connected to a phone for GPRS/EDGE and to a BT GPS at the same time does work, so it's not that simple...

[Fidibus]

Hi Nokia 770 Fans,

i now ordered a Plantronics Pulsar 590A Bluetooth Headset and Analog Adapter

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000BK1QSE.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://www.plantronics.com/media/media_resources/literature/cordless_mobile/pulsar590_en.pdf

I am strained whether it function

Fidibus

if it does not function - I use it at the laptop and the ipod

[Karel Jansens]

Hi Nokia 770 Fans,

i now ordered a Plantronics Pulsar 590A Bluetooth Headset and Analog Adapter

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000BK1QSE.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg

http://www.plantronics.com/media/media_resources/literature/cordless_mobile/pulsar590_en.pdf

I am strained whether it function

Fidibus

if it does not function - I use it at the laptop and the ipod
I have a similar device from Logitech. It works perfectly.

[janjansenbe]

A lot of people these days think everything works immediately, everything is easy, no effort has to be spent anymore, ... but on the long run they are wrong, ... it's our brains that make the 'humans' so special, so just use them. By the way, to understand the basics of Linux isn't that difficult, just a matter of reading a good book about it, experience a bit with it, and last but not least, think will you are doing all this, ...

[ilia]

I have a similar
device from Logitech. It works perfectly.


you have a bt headset that works with 770? please elaborate

[Karel Jansens]

you have a bt headset that works with 770? please elaborate
No, it's essentially a wireless headset, like the infrared ones you can find in shops, but with Bluetooth as the wireless carrier.

It consists of a litlle black box that plugs into any 3.5 mm phone-out plug and a headset with a couple of buttons on one earpiece. I plug the box in, switch box and earphone on (they pair automatically) and I have wireless music. The LiIon batteries last for 8+ hours.

The reason I bought it is because my P910 phone has no headset BT profile and I got fed up with the dangling wires during hikes, but it essentially works with anything that has a standard earphone connector (or for which a connector exists - I use it for watching tv with a a white-and-red plug to 3.5 mm connector).

[Fidibus]

Hi Nokia 770 colleague ,

the Plantronics Pulsar 590A Bluetooth Headset functioned really well :)

Fidibus

[NokNok770]

That earphone looks like it has a seperate transmitter (bluetooth?). But that's no different from a non bluetooth wireless headphone. I'd prefer it uses the 770's bluetooth so we don't have to have a seperate transmitter.

[Wireless]

That earphone looks like it has a seperate transmitter (bluetooth?). But that's no different from a non bluetooth wireless headphone. I'd prefer it uses the 770's bluetooth so we don't have to have a seperate transmitter.
He is talking about Logitechs Bluetooth Wireless Headset. It came in two basic configurations, one for IPOD and one For MP3 Players (most brands compatible). The difference is the IPOD version has a White Bluetooth Transmitter and has linited integration with the IPODs Volume and Scroll Functions and the MP3 Has a Black transmitter that also has a 2.5 MM phone Plug that slides from side to side to enable it to align with different brands better. Both units allow Volume Control from controls located on the Headset.
Your statement is correct, the Device uses a seperate Bluetooth Transmitter that plugs in the headphone jack. 9Transmitter also requires charging. The included AC Power Supply has two connectors on it, they use same proprietary connector)It will also work with most any device with a 2.5mm Headset jack. Either of the headsets, MP3 or IPOD WILL WORK with a Bluetooth Device that supports the Headset Profile. (NOKIA 770 obviously has limitations of its own) I use mine without the BT Transmitter on my TMOBILE MDA, Cingular 2125 without a hitch. Any phone or PDA that works wioth most Bluetooth Headsets should work with the Logitech BT Headset.

NOTE: These Headsets have known issue that they very easily break dead center in the middle of the HeadBand. It will start a hairline crack and shortly break. It is ackmowledged by Logitech. They will replace under the 2 year warranty. Their supplier says they have fixed the problem, I had a replacement already splt again. They will replace until your 2 years is up, so if you dont mind, you get alot of extra power supplies and transmitters! Also, if your good with soldering iron, there is ahack online where guys are taklng the transmitter out of broken headset and using it to make BTwireless amplified speakers

http://www.geeks.com/imageshare/9/150x150/980415-0403-BULK-R-unit.gif
http://www.geeks.com/imageshare/9/150x150/980397-0403-BULK-R-box.gif
Also sold under Hewlett Packard Logo in a Blackish Grey MetalflakeColor.

In closing, having that module does give you a bit more flexibilty, bang for the buck, so to speak. If you can get a set that wont bspklit. These have been as low as $25 on the Net and Ebay. (Doesnt mean you can go find a set right now for $25, I have seen it on that site that lists one item for like 24 hours at a killer price (Cannot remeber the name) I just sqw them for $27.99 at geeks.com (http://www.become.com/rd?q=logitech+bluetooth+headphones&t=mr&et=mm&pt=sg&pn=1&pi=7&ts=1155765765989&lk=522293&bp=610341194&id=%2C%2C%2C&u=H4sIAAAAAAAAAMsoKSmw0tcvLy%2FXS09NzS7WS87P1U9JLU nMzCnWSywusPfMKyvxTLG1tDAwtjTXNTAxMNZ1CvXx1g1SS86N z81Ntk1KBWpJ1Y3X9Q0wDshJrEwtKtbPDMhPAYp4pCamFGTk56 UWAzmYJgAA94O%2BcHwAAAA%3D) for refurbs.

While Logitech still supports these under warranty, they are no longer featured on their website, and I have not seen any replacement either.

[Karel Jansens]

NOTE: These Headsets have known issue that they very easily break dead center in the middle of the HeadBand. It will start a hairline crack and shortly break. It is ackmowledged by Logitech. They will replace under the 2 year warranty. Their supplier says they have fixed the problem, I had a replacement already splt again. They will replace until your 2 years is up, so if you dont mind, you get alot of extra power supplies and transmitters! Also, if your good with soldering iron, there is ahack online where guys are taklng the transmitter out of broken headset and using it to make BTwireless amplified speakers

If I may add an interesting link to your expose:

http://eastep.blogspot.com/2005/06/bluetooth-headphone-upgrade.html

This is a nice one for when the headphones break (although mine are still going strong after six months) or if you don't like the "ergonomics" of the Logitech headphones (and let's face, those aren't great). I might take a stab at it myself, provided I can find a really comfortable and inobtrusive set.

[Wireless]

If I may add an interesting link to your expose:

http://eastep.blogspot.com/2005/06/bluetooth-headphone-upgrade.html

This is a nice one for when the headphones break (although mine are still going strong after six months) or if you don't like the "ergonomics" of the Logitech headphones (and let's face, those aren't great). I might take a stab at it myself, provided I can find a really comfortable and inobtrusive set.

"Expose" you got an outloud chuckle from me on that one. I can assure you, my term paper on the elusive "Logitech Bluetooth Headset" didnt start out that way. Then nuddenly I realized I knew enough about them that it did warrant it to be posted. The MOD done by the guy in your post was cool. I bet that alot of these headsets after breakage are being utilized. I know I didnt trash any. I was also happy to hear that my HP set is an easy swap. They are setting here hanging as I didnt want to mess with HP.
Thanks for info.
I can use on my next chapter on "The Care and Feeding"

Here is some more handy info. I am dealing with same topic at howard forums. Thought some will find handy later:

Here is the easy replacement Info from Logitech:

QUESTION: Why is my MP3/iPod headphone cracking?


ANSWER:
This article applies to the following products:
Wireless Headphones for MP3
Wireless Headphones for iPod

Cause:
With some Logitech wireless MP3/iPod headphones, a limited number of customers have experienced some deterioration of the headband.

Solution:
For Logitech, it is important for our customers to be fully satisfied with our products. If you have experienced this issue with one of these Logitech products, please contact our technical support group at the following number:

Contact Us: 1-800-936-0033
Business Hours:
6:00AM – 6:00PM PST Monday-Friday

Logitech will, in accordance with the two-year limited warranty on the headphone, replace the product or refund the purchase price. Please note that this telephone number is only for customers experiencing deterioration with the MP3/iPod headphones. Please have the following information available when you call:

1. Model Number (M/N) for the headphone located on the right side of the headband
2. Product Identification Code (PID) for the headphone located under the right ear pad

END

I personally would buy another pair if the price is right. They sound great (I do not have critical audio ear) and I know to be careful placing them ON/OFF the neck. I also like that I can use without the Module as a regular Stero Bluetooth Headset, and still use with Non Bluetooth Devices using the included BT Transmitter.

[Karel Jansens]

Actually, I'm rather hoping mine will break now. The mod looks indeed very interesting, but not interesting enough to break them on purpose, though...

[Fidibus]

Hi,

today I had my first VOIP call with the Nokia 770 and Gizmo and my Plantronics Bluetooth Headphone

no bad experience :) - are already strained like the further tests run - who already telephoned from you with Nokia - Exchange of experience would be class

thanks in advance

Fidibus

[Wesley]

Fidibus,

I have the Plantronics Pulsar as well.

Just to be clear... you are using it with the Bluetooth "dongle" plugged into the headphone port on the 770, with the native microphone on the 770?

I guess this works but it really has nothing to do with the 770 supporting Bluetooth headsets!

Wesley

[Fidibus]

Hi Wesley,

is already clear.

But which would be otherwise the solution - In the Moment is the Plantronics Pulsar the only possibility at the same time telephone and music hear - with this connection :)

I would also rather go to the direct away - but it is supported at present nothing - at least admits to me :mad:

Fidibus

The goal would be already clear
http://www.plantronics.com/images/catalog/product_medium/discovery640.jpg