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myk

03-23-2009, 11:42 AM

Is this a reference to the Fremantle Doctor? It must be the only wind beginning with F then. I live a few km from Fremantle, and its just our name for the local sea-breeze. Not quite one of the world's great wind systems. Is there another?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fremantle_Doctor

sjgadsby

03-23-2009, 12:30 PM

Is this a reference to the Fremantle Doctor?
It is.

It must be the only wind beginning with F then.
Indeed, "F" winds are scarce, it seems.

I live a few km from Fremantle, and its just our name for the local sea-breeze. Not quite one of the world's great wind systems.
I don't think the Maemo folks are seeking powerful winds, just named winds.

Is there another?
Even if there is, it's too late to change away from Fremantle now. Harmattan too is already locked in. However, should you find an "I" wind name you particularly like, there still may be time to campaign for it.

Lord Raiden

03-23-2009, 02:26 PM

You guys just reminded me of something. Speaking of winds, I remember seeing a BBC special or possibly on national geographic, where there was some kind of sea breeze over in a part of England or Ireland that was so unique and at the same time powerful that it permeated houses, got under the floorboards, got under the roofs, etc. There was one part I remember where they showed the wind getting under the house and subsequently blowing up through the floorboards where it caused this one rug to hover above the floor and flop around. It was rather odd, but memorable.

lma

03-23-2009, 03:07 PM

It must be the only wind beginning with F then.

A quick google search also turned up Favonius, Foehn and Friagem.

BrentDC

03-23-2009, 03:30 PM

Even if there is, it's too late to change away from Fremantle now. Harmattan too is already locked in. However, should you find an "I" wind name you particularly like, there still may be time to campaign for it.

It looks like "I" is gonna be tough (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Winds)...

Oh, and I'm now officially campaigning for "Zonda" when Z comes around...in 2037.

qole

03-23-2009, 03:39 PM

I think someone should photoshop this picture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Fremantle_Markets,_Western_Australia.jpg) to have the words "Fixed In" (in the same quirky font as the main text) replacing the crest, or maybe on either side of the crest...

lcuk

03-23-2009, 03:45 PM

yerga

03-23-2009, 03:47 PM

It looks like "I" is gonna be tough (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Winds)...

Oh, and I'm now officially campaigning for "Zonda" when Z comes around...in 2037.

qgil asked some time ago in jaiku, and there were some suggestions for the "i": http://qgil.jaiku.com/presence/52078129

qgil

03-23-2009, 04:00 PM

Fremantle is a refreshing wind. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/_autumn_leaf/295311045/)

lcuk

03-23-2009, 04:05 PM

I believe the closest that we can come to a wind beginning with I is perhaps:

Ishkur (http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/295332/Ishkur)

"in Mesopotamian religion, Sumerian god of the rain and thunderstorms of spring"

The changing weather is close enough to meaning the wind to me.

Lord Raiden

03-23-2009, 04:12 PM

I have a suggestion for the K name. "Kaze" from the Japanese word for Wind. I know that's jumping the shark considerably, but it's never to early to start something. ;)

qole

03-23-2009, 04:31 PM

Here we go: :D :D

http://qole.maemobox.org/images/Fixed-in-Fremantle.png

timsamoff

03-23-2009, 04:31 PM

I'm still a fan if Inverna.

Tim

benny1967

03-23-2009, 04:46 PM

They have this tradition of omitting every other OS version (E,G), so you better look out for names with J. ;)

myk

03-23-2009, 07:29 PM

Has anyone told the mayor of Fremantle? Its the town's biggest international fame since the Americas Cup boat race in 1987.

I have a suggestion for the K name. "Kaze" from the Japanese word for Wind.
Surely you mean Kamikaze. Thats the famous one that sank the Mongol fleet, a bit like the Spanish Armada.
I know that's jumping the shark
Gun! Fonzie jumped the shark.

qole

03-23-2009, 07:31 PM

I think Fremantle is a more appropriate place for the 2009 Summit than Amsterdam... Well, except for the fact that the air fare would be atrocious for most of the attendees.

Lord Raiden

03-23-2009, 08:10 PM

Surely you mean Kamikaze. Thats the famous one that sank the Mongol fleet, a bit like the Spanish Armada.

Kamikaze is "Divine Wind" in Japanese.

Kami = god/divine
Kaze = wind

So yeah, it could be used. But thanks to the Japanese suicide pilots of WW2, it's gained a bad reputation in much the same was the Nazi's forever polluted the reputation of the swastika. (pre-ww2, the swastika was actually a world recognized symbol of peace) So while Kaze would be accepted by a lot of people, I think you'd see a rather unfortunate kickback for using "kamikaze" for the name. There's also a bit of a "self destructive" imagery that goes with that name. If someone called their project Kamikaze, a lot of people would avoid it like the plague.

lma

03-24-2009, 04:39 AM

If someone called their project Kamikaze, a lot of people would avoid it like the plague.

Didn't stop OpenWrt (http://openwrt.org/) (although technically it's named after the cocktail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikaze_(cocktail))). And a fine embedded Linux distro it is too.

lma

03-24-2009, 04:50 AM

They have this tradition of omitting every other OS version (E,G)

Well, we know what happened to Elephanta, and technically G has already been done with Gregale (which also used up what is probably the only decent G-wind name).

so you better look out for names with J

There don't seem to be many of those either...

attila77

03-24-2009, 05:47 AM

There don't seem to be many of those either...

Jetstream ? Or Jetta for you who think Nokia names tables after Volkswagen cars ;)

hns

03-24-2009, 06:11 AM

Fremantle is a refreshing wind.

Foehn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foehn_wind), on the other hand, is mainly known for causing headache:

These winds are often associated with illnesses ranging from migraines to psychosis. A study by the Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München found that suicide and accidents increased by 10 percent during föhn winds in Central Europe.

But the patriot in me would have rejoiced, and it would have been a perfect fit for Maemo for the "how the f#%§ do I pronounce that?" factor.

benny1967

03-24-2009, 06:20 AM

But the patriot in me would have rejoiced, and it would have been a perfect fit for Maemo for the "how the f#%§ do I pronounce that?" factor.

That's easy: Föhn. As in Föhn. ;)

(BTW, this leads us straight on to the J-Wind: Jauk. That's what people in Carinthia call the Foehn that comes down from the Karawanken.)

pycage

03-24-2009, 06:30 AM

Föhn is a warm wind falling from the alps in the southern part of Germany. And yes, it's known to cause headache for many people. So why not call a hacker edition "Föhn" as it will cause headache to many people, too. ;)

For G, there still would be Ghibli, now that Gregale has already been taken by OS 2006.

GeneralAntilles

03-24-2009, 06:52 AM

For G, there still would be Ghibli, now that Gregale has already been taken by OS 2006.

Ghibli's a no-go, I'll just think of Miyazaki films.

pycage

03-24-2009, 08:25 AM

Indeed. How about Nausicaa for N? ;)
Kaze no tani no Nausicaa. Not a wind, but related to the valley of winds.

eiffel

03-24-2009, 08:58 AM

Wind names (bold means already used by Nokia):
aeolus, apeliotus, aquilo, astraeus, auster
barat, barber, bayamo, blizzard, bora, boreas, breeze, buster
caver, chinook, cierzo, coromell, corus, cyclone
diablo, doldrums, downdraft
elephanta, etesian, euros
favonius, foehn, fremantle doctor, friagem
gale, gregale, gust
haboob, harmattan, helm wind, hurricane
i?
jetstream
kaikais, kari, khamsin, knik wind, kona storm
leste, levanter, libeccio, livos
maestro, makani, mariah, marin, matanuska, meltemi, mistral, monsoon
nashi, nor'easter, norte, nor'wester, notus
ostria
pali, pampero, papagayo, puelche
q?
rabi, roaring forties
santa ana, shamal, simoom, sirocco, skiron, solar wind, squamish, sundowner
tadi, taku, tebbad, thrascius, tornado, tramontana, twister, typhoon
updraft
vardar, vendavel, volturnus, vortex
williwaw, willy-willy
x?
y?
zephyros, zonda

Sources:
Names for Wind (http://elsci.lansingschools.net/rtsmith/wind/names.htm)
Wind names (http://www.petrolpump.co.in/energy-sources/wind.htm#Names_for_specific_winds_in_certain_regio ns)
Wind Names (http://ggweather.com/winds.html)
Wind names for baby (http://www.thinkbabynames.com/search/1/wind)

(photo by Slava (http://www.flickr.com/photos/slava/496607907/) - Creative Commons CC-BY)

sjgadsby

03-24-2009, 09:19 AM

(photo by Slava (http://www.flickr.com/photos/slava/496607907/) - Creative Commons CC-BY)

When even lolcats can spell Fremantle correctly, you've got to feel bad for those who can't.

attila77

03-24-2009, 09:50 AM

Sources:

And let's not forget http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Winds for a bundle :)

My local 'K' wind missing from your list is Koshava: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ko%C5%A1ava_(wind))

PS. As for Föhn supporters, Chinook is I believe just a different name for the same wind :)

Mara

03-24-2009, 10:18 AM

eiffel: I think you need to edit your post and make "mistral" and "sirocco" bold as well... :rolleyes: (Unless I'm completely missing your logic...)

qole

03-24-2009, 12:28 PM

attila77

03-24-2009, 12:43 PM

Chinook is a wind from Western Canada.

Yes, I meant the same effect (it's obviously not called chinook in Europe). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foehn_wind#Local_examples

EIPI

03-24-2009, 08:05 PM

Chinook is a wind from Western Canada.
Every now and then, in the depths of winter, the Chinook will blow and devour the snow. It is said that the Chinook works so fast that, if you try to get home when you notice the wind blowing, the front of your sleigh's runners will be on snow, and the back ends of your runners will be dragging in the dirt.

I grew up in Southern Alberta, where Chinooks were a welcome sight in winter. +40 degree Celsius temperature swings in a matter of hours! All the snow would melt and it would be spring-like in January. We would go out for slurpees at 7-11 to celebrate.