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TenSpeed
04-16-2009, 08:00 PM
Apologies for those who have already seen it, but today Tim Samoff announced the launch (as a Beta) of the redesigned Maemo.org website next Wednesday, 22 April.
http://maemo.org/community/council/new_maemo-org_soon_to_launch/
I think this is good news in itself, but combined with the upcoming Nokia Developers Summit, http://www.developersummit2009.com/ (April 28-29 in Monaco, with Maemo specifically mentioned), the upcoming launch of the Ovi store, the increase in activity in these forums, etc., maybe we'll see something announced in the next week or two. Here's hoping!
Jaffa
04-17-2009, 09:19 AM
Apologies for those who have already seen it, but today Tim Samoff announced the launch (as a Beta) of the redesigned Maemo.org website next Wednesday, 22 April. [...] maybe we'll see something announced in the next week or two.
Tim, nor any other member of the council, have any inside knowledge on the release or announcement of any future Nokia hardware.
The release date has been chosen by people like timsamoff and dneary to push the long-running task to completion, and nothing more should be read into it than that. In other words, this is the "proper" launch of the community taking ownership of the look, feel and content of maemo.org.
TenSpeed
04-17-2009, 10:29 AM
I'm not claiming that the council has any inside knowledge; I've been following NIT development to know that asking such questions is a waste of time.
Instead, I'm trying to connect the dots. If no one is willing/able to provide open information to this open community, speculation is what we have left.
It's currently mid-April, and several major competitors will be releasing products in the next few months (FruitPhone 3, Pre, and even Nokia's own N97, depending on how you view "competition"). So Nokia would be well served to have an alternative available for purchase by the time those are out. Not just announced, but real, touchable product(s). If not, they stand to lose a generation of users who just in at this stage - it's much harder to move someone to a new platform later, after they've become comfortable on their Symbian/OSX/Pre/whatever device.
And if you're going to have new hardware, you need something more than just an OS for it, hence the mention of the developers' conference. And the developers will need to know some details about why they should care, right? If not, they'll just choose another, more "real" target for their efforts.
I recall others suggesting a beta version of Maemo 5 around the time of new Ubuntu release, which is next Thursday (sorry, can't remember where I saw this). And Nokia's just announced quarterly earnings, so the next few weeks will likely be used to announce new initiatives, to encourage investors.
So, I suspect something will be unveiled in 1-2 weeks, and shipping about a month after that. If I'm wrong, so what? It's been a better mental exercise (for me) than debating the merits of a $0.02 plastic stylus...
Jaffa
04-17-2009, 10:34 AM
I'm not claiming that the council has any inside knowledge; I've been following NIT development to know that asking such questions is a waste of time. [...] Instead, I'm trying to connect the dots. If no one is willing/able to provide open information to this open community, speculation is what we have left.
I have as much fun speculating about release dates as the next person, my point was that although there are dots which may or may not be valid to connect, the beta launch of the new maemo.org is not one of them.
BTW, I think your "open information to this open community" jibe is unfair, but this isn't a thread on the unprecedented (but still, admittedly, sub-optimal in some areas) levels of openness finally being shown by Nokia in the fremantle release.
So, I suspect something will be unveiled in 1-2 weeks, and shipping about a month after that. If I'm wrong, so what? It's been a better mental exercise (for me) than debating the merits of a $0.02 plastic stylus...
Fun-filled release date speculation is not something I have a problem with (as long as it's clear to all involved that it is just rampant speculation without any information behind it) :-)
Lord Raiden
04-17-2009, 01:06 PM
Since we're talking about Tim Samoff, I just want to give props to him for the work he's doing. Maemo.org has been a very valuable tool to me. :D
YoDude
04-17-2009, 04:34 PM
Since we're talking about Tim Samoff, I just want to give props to him for the work he's doing. Maemo.org has been a very valuable tool to me. :D
Edit: Never mind then. (see post below)
GeneralAntilles
04-17-2009, 09:47 PM
Chears to Tim.
Tim is only one part of the team that has been working to bring maemo.org to where it is today. If you want to give props, you should also give them to people like Dave, Niels, Andre, Jeremiah, Henri, Lauri, Tero, Quim, Glaubert, and Ferenc (for a large, but incomplete list).
geneven
04-17-2009, 10:58 PM
I predict that a tablet per se will never be released -- a tablet + phone will be released, and the work done here will be absorbed into other Nokia productions. This prediction is of course subject to being wrong, as are all the other predictions made in this thread.
GeneralAntilles
04-17-2009, 11:06 PM
I predict that a tablet per se will never be released -- a tablet + phone will be released, and the work done here will be absorbed into other Nokia productions. This prediction is of course subject to being wrong, as are all the other predictions made in this thread.
Whatever you're predicting, it's clearly not on-topic for the subject of this thread.
timsamoff
04-17-2009, 11:17 PM
Oh, how I would love to be a dot. One can only dream. ;)
And, GeneralAntilles is so correct: I'm a very small piece of the puzzle!
Tim
GeneralAntilles
04-17-2009, 11:23 PM
And, GeneralAntilles is so correct: I'm a very small piece of the puzzle!
He's just a very visible one thanks to his giant face. :p
Lord Raiden
04-18-2009, 07:40 AM
Tim is only one part of the team that has been working to bring maemo.org to where it is today. If you want to give props, you should also give them to people like Dave, Niels, Andre, Jeremiah, Henri, Lauri, Tero, Quim, Glaubert, and Ferenc (for a large, but incomplete list).
Well then, I stand corrected, and I give further props to the rest of the crew as well. Good job guys. :D
geneven
04-18-2009, 09:29 AM
The very first post of the thread included a prediction and I submitted a different prediction. How the very first post in the thread can be off-topic is beyond me.
The fourth post in the thread didn't mention that predictions were off-topic here and in fact said, "Fun-filled release date speculation is not something I have a problem with (as long as it's clear to all involved that it is just rampant speculation without any information behind it) :-)"
Why didn't GA post a rebuke to that poster saying his comment was off-topic?
YoDude
04-18-2009, 09:46 AM
The very first post of the thread included a prediction and I submitted a different prediction. How the very first post in the thread can be off-topic is beyond me.
The fourth post in the thread didn't mention that predictions were off-topic here and in fact said, "Fun-filled release date speculation is not something I have a problem with (as long as it's clear to all involved that it is just rampant speculation without any information behind it) :-)"
Why didn't GA post a rebuke to that poster saying his comment was off-topic?
Don't feel bad dude. All three of this threads responders who are not members of the "council" were corrected...
Howzat for having fun, eh? :p
mullf
04-18-2009, 10:01 AM
Why didn't GA post a rebuke to that poster saying his comment was off-topic?
The man has zero people skills.
YoDude
04-18-2009, 10:14 AM
The man has zero people skills.
I don't know how to respond to that and it definitely isn't the topic of this thread...
Unfortunately off topic statement posts like this from someone who hasn't posted previously in the thread might be the reason some feel the need to over correct and police threads in the first place.
(cough, cough... TROLL ...cough)
Neither behavior makes for a smooth running forum, IMHO. :)
mullf
04-18-2009, 10:27 AM
Unfortunately off topic statement posts like this from someone who hasn't posted previously in the thread might be the reason some feel the need to over correct and police threads in the first place.
It seems to me that people "policing" the thread in an anal manner was the cause of this particular off-topic branch. Was that worth the post stating that a prediction was outside the scope of the thread (even though one was present in the original post)? It seems to me that the people doing the "policing" are the ones being antagonistic here, not the poor sap that sees a prediction in the original post and responds with his/her own view.
mullf
04-18-2009, 10:30 AM
I don't know how to respond to that and it definitely isn't the topic of this thread...
Unfortunately off topic statement posts like this from someone who hasn't posted previously in the thread might be the reason some feel the need to over correct and police threads in the first place.
(cough, cough... TROLL ...cough)
Neither behavior makes for a smooth running forum, IMHO. :)
Additionally, have you considered that just IGNORING off-topic posts will end the off-topicness? Responding that the post was off-topic has engendered at least five posts responding to the post saying the post was off-topic! If GA had left well enough alone, it probably would have ended there. IMHO, ignoring posts that you think are off-topic/senseless is better than being an anal policeman.
GeneralAntilles
04-18-2009, 10:33 AM
The very first post of the thread included a prediction and I submitted a different prediction. How the very first post in the thread can be off-topic is beyond me.
The problem is the topic (the imminent maemo.org update) has nothing to do with Fremantle or the next generation of tablets. The link the original poster saw was non-existant. Jaffa corrected this and so we're left with only the real topic. If you want to talk about the maemo.org update, this is a fair place to do it, but if you want to speculate about hardware releases, you want one of the two-dozen other threads on the subject.
The man has zero people skills.
Your trolling skills, however, are top-notch.
Unfortunately off topic statement posts like this from someone who hasn't posted previously in the thread might be the reason some feel the need to over correct and police threads in the first place.
itT is getting ready for a massive influx of new users, which we have to get ready for if we expect this forum to maintain any sort of stability and structure through such a massive growth. This is why we've been undergoing the forum reorg and moderator activity has stepped up. If we just let things run rampant here then it's going to get very rough when all those new users start showing up.
mullf
04-18-2009, 10:38 AM
itT is getting ready for a massive influx of new users, which we have to get ready for if we expect this forum to maintain any sort of stability and structure through such a massive growth. This is why we've been undergoing the forum reorg and moderator activity has stepped up. If we just let things run rampant here then it's going to get very rough when all those new users start showing up.
The question is, do you WANT new people here? If someone is new, sees something in the ORIGINAL post of a thread, and responds to it, and then gets "policed", how welcome do you think they will feel?
YoDude
04-18-2009, 11:27 AM
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itT is getting ready for a massive influx of new users, which we have to get ready for if we expect this forum to maintain any sort of stability and structure through such a massive growth. This is why we've been undergoing the forum reorg and moderator activity has stepped up. If we just let things run rampant here then it's going to get very rough when all those new users start showing up.
Wow. Using the police metafore... You just gave the troll your dang gun...
Since you allowed this thread to be hi-jacked... It has been my experience* that moderating and over correcting are two different things and are usually counter productive when practiced simultaneously.
Over correcting by one individual stifles the free flow of information and does not allow the regular contributing members a chance to research, and correct factual errors.
As this forums membership grows you are going to have to allow the membership to self police. Then Mods input is needed only when the methods used by civilian members are considered inappropriate or as a last resort in settling arguments over facts...
It's either that or be prepared to be on board typing responses 24/7. < That will get real tired real quick and unfortunately some will see it as a game and start playing "Lets trip up the Mod and see what we get away with".
*Mod and Super Mod for over 5 years now on a forum with almost 1 million members with a over 20,000 posts just last week. (http://www.big-boards.com/board/164/) (not something I like to advertise off that board BTW)
***
Now hopefully back to the regularly scheduled program. :)
timsamoff
04-21-2009, 01:27 PM
Update: http://maemo.org/community/council/the_final_countdown/
Thanks!
Tim
Lord Raiden
04-21-2009, 03:30 PM
Oh great. Now I've got that stupid song stuck in my head. lol. Well, either way, I'll definitely be looking forward to it. :D
Oh, btw. Here's a little nod (http://www.raiden.net/articles/big_things_come_in_little_packages_an_overview_of_ the_maemo_project/) to the guys at the Maemo project. :D
GeneralAntilles
04-21-2009, 03:37 PM
Oh, btw. Here's a little nod (http://www.raiden.net/articles/big_things_come_in_little_packages_an_overview_of_ the_maemo_project/) to the guys at the Maemo project. :D
The shout out is nice, but I can't help but wonder if this is satire.
sjgadsby
04-21-2009, 03:52 PM
Here's a little nod (http://www.raiden.net/articles/big_things_come_in_little_packages_an_overview_of_ the_maemo_project/) to the guys at the Maemo project.
A few notes:
While the N800 and N810 are part of Nokia's N-series, the 770 was not. Therefore, it has no "N".
NX-51 appears to be a typo for RX-51. Furthermore, RX-51 isn't a suggested, possible name for the Maemo 5 lead device. It is the internal codename for that device. See: Codenames (http://wiki.maemo.org/Codenames).
It's "Fremantle", not "Freemantle", and it will ship on the Maemo 5 lead device, not be released after that device.
maemo.org is the homepage for the community and community projects. It's not the homepage for Maemo the OS or the internal Nokia software development team.
The Council represents the community and is heavily involved in maemo.org. They don't manage Maemo. They don't even manage the community.
"Internet" is a proper noun, as is "Internet Tablet".
"maemo.org", though a proper noun, should be all lowercase.
Your quotation marks aren't coded properly.
Comic Sans?
Lord Raiden
04-21-2009, 04:17 PM
heh. Yeah, sorry about discrepancies. I did the best I could with the info I had.
Jaffa
04-21-2009, 04:31 PM
heh. Yeah, sorry about discrepancies. I did the best I could with the info I had.
Hopefully you'll fix them (heaven forbid the Internet had something factually inaccurate on it ;-)).
I'm sure many of us would be happy to proof read stuff in future, if you wanted. Hell, if nothing else it kinda falls under the Council remit of helping the community - but I'm sure you'd not be short of people anyway :-)
(Thanks to sjgadsby doing a sterling job everywhere at the moment - proof that one doesn't need to be on the council to be an enormous benefit to the community. See also VDVsx.)
Lord Raiden
04-21-2009, 07:52 PM
Yeah, if someone wants to proof that and email me the needed changes, I can post the changes as soon as I get them.
timsamoff
04-21-2009, 08:45 PM
Looks like sjgadsby's already done that for you above (http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/member.php?u=5991)! :)
Tim
mikkov
04-22-2009, 04:35 AM
I hope that the beta tag is removed. It has no meaning for a website which is in "production"
YoDude
04-22-2009, 08:27 AM
Update: http://maemo.org/community/council/the_final_countdown/
Thanks!
Tim
Looking real good in IE7 dude! A quick check of links from the home page checks out. The only rendition issue I saw was that the Karma badge on the user profile page seemed cut off horizontally. Nice work BTW. :)
LABAUDIO
04-22-2009, 10:56 AM
the new design of maemo.org is nomore slick then the past one...
why regress and put orange everywhere...
now the site look more bold and orangina then clear and pure like the old one
i hope this new design going out after some bad comment
or why you dont put the 2 version choices in control panal of any user
like that we can choose between old or new one...
(please tell me iam not alone to dont like it the new one)
:(
Well, *I* like it. The grey background is easier on the eyes, especially on 'em newfangled LCD screens, and the layout manages to feel less cramped and still use the screen width better, at the same time.
I'm not a fan of orange either, but readability is what counts, and it works better for me. Kudos to Tim & the team !
The site itself also feels snappier today, thought I dunno if it's related...
Actually there is not much orange... if you look where this color comes from.
Making the links (including the titles of the news) not-orange would make a big change. Worth trying?
The orange used in the header, graphics and backgrounds is appropriate and is well integrated, me thinks.
Lord Raiden
04-22-2009, 03:23 PM
A few notes:
While the N800 and N810 are part of Nokia's N-series, the 770 was not. Therefore, it has no "N".
NX-51 appears to be a typo for RX-51. Furthermore, RX-51 isn't a suggested, possible name for the Maemo 5 lead device. It is the internal codename for that device. See: Codenames (http://wiki.maemo.org/Codenames).
It's "Fremantle", not "Freemantle", and it will ship on the Maemo 5 lead device, not be released after that device.
maemo.org is the homepage for the community and community projects. It's not the homepage for Maemo the OS or the internal Nokia software development team.
The Council represents the community and is heavily involved in maemo.org. They don't manage Maemo. They don't even manage the community.
"Internet" is a proper noun, as is "Internet Tablet".
"maemo.org", though a proper noun, should be all lowercase.
Your quotation marks aren't coded properly.
Comic Sans?
Ok, all fixed. Let me know if I missed anything. And yes I know about the quoting thing. It's something weird with how my db handles quotes. Not sure how to fix it short of editing every article after it happens, whenever that might be. And sorry about the font. I simply specify that the css use sans-serif, so if you're not seeing that, I don't know what to say. ^_^;;
GeneralAntilles
04-22-2009, 03:38 PM
Ok, all fixed. Let me know if I missed anything.
There's no such thing as the "Maemo project" nor is there a "Maemo Council". ;)
The premis of your article is slightly flawed. maemo.org is the home of the Maemo Community now. Although it used to be the maemo project (lowercase m) homepage, there's no such thing as the maemo project anymore. Nokia properly took up the Maemo brand (see the new branding guidelines (http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_brand)) last year to use to name both their software platform (Maemo) and the division within the company that works on it (Maemo Software).
They handed over maemo.org to us, the community, to use both as our trademark and legal entity (maemo.org) and as the homepage for our community.
timsamoff
04-22-2009, 03:38 PM
I hope that the beta tag is removed. It has no meaning for a website which is in "production"
Actually, it means a lot -- and many websites "in production" use it. It signifies that there are still issues and that minor bugs may still pop up. We are working towards removing the Beta signifier, but it is not that time yet. Give us a couple of weeks of testing and bug fixes (as well as time to style garage.maemo.org, wiki.maemo.org, etc.).
Thanks,
Tim
I just discovered http://wiki.maemo.org/ as registered user with the MonoBookMaemo2009 skin set in 'my preferences'. C'est chic!
mikkov
04-22-2009, 03:47 PM
Actually, it means a lot -- and many websites "in production" use it. It signifies that there are still issues and that minor bugs may still pop up. We are working towards removing the Beta signifier, but it is not that time yet. Give us a couple of weeks of testing and bug fixes (as well as time to style garage.maemo.org, wiki.maemo.org, etc.).
Thanks,
Tim
If Google uses it, it doesn't mean that everyone should use it. Most websites are more or less under development all the time. (gmail is still "beta")
For general public it doesn't meant anything. My _personal_ opinion is that all beta tagged websites are lame.
If the problem is the 'beta' tag then we can consider today's launch a success. ;)
Actually there is not much orange... if you look where this color comes from.
Making the links (including the titles of the news) not-orange would make a big change. Worth trying?
The orange used in the header, graphics and backgrounds is appropriate and is well integrated, me thinks.
Yup, nice catch, Quim. I hadn't realized at first, but now you've mentioned it, what gives me the "orange visual overdose" impression is the links - specifically, the "plain-text" links inside the posts on the Planet maemo page for example.
As you said, the orange "decorations" are well done, even the news titles would be OK : it's the links that appear a lighter shade of orange (because the font is non-bold) that should be turned a lighter or darker shade of something else... I'm sure the pages would be a lot easier on the eyes.
mikkov
04-22-2009, 04:00 PM
There is no problem saying that it's beta, but why it has to in be logo? It's ugly.
Small notice in footer would suffice
benny1967
04-22-2009, 04:01 PM
i like it. thanks to all who worked on it.
sjgadsby
04-22-2009, 04:07 PM
Should bugs in the new design still be submitted against the "Newstyle" component, or is that component being vacated now that the new theme is live?
Bundyo
04-22-2009, 04:18 PM
Few things I've noticed, 'scuse me if already discussed:
announcements on the front page - dead spot. Nothing draws the user attention on a quick glance. It should be more visible IMHO.
Username and Serch fields - text should be auto selected or disappear on focus like the password field.
The new style wiki main menu is broken, looks like a missing image/sprite (FF35b).
The gray elipsoid in the right menu can be divided to two elements to support the vertical resizing of the items (like when on two rows).
Keep up the good work.
GeneralAntilles
04-22-2009, 04:27 PM
Should bugs in the new design still be submitted against the "Newstyle" component, or is that component being vacated now that the new theme is live?
I'm sticking to Newstyle for the time being. I'll ask X-Fade, once his two hours of sleep time are up, where he wants them, though. ;)
Wow very nice. Fast, I like the overall visibility and the graphic choices.
A few clicks brought me to some usefull info.
Lord Raiden
04-23-2009, 09:21 AM
Actually, it means a lot -- and many websites "in production" use it. It signifies that there are still issues and that minor bugs may still pop up. We are working towards removing the Beta signifier, but it is not that time yet. Give us a couple of weeks of testing and bug fixes (as well as time to style garage.maemo.org, wiki.maemo.org, etc.).
Thanks,
Tim
hehe. My site is newly launched and still technically in beta until the end of the month. But the only notice of it's beta state I made was in a little sidebar announcement. ;)
deadmalc
04-23-2009, 09:27 AM
I hope that the beta tag is removed. It has no meaning for a website which is in "production"
tell that one to google ;-)
timsamoff
04-23-2009, 11:06 AM
Actually, all of the comments I make in this forum (or anywhere online for that matter) are pretty much Beta status.
Tim
penguinbait
04-23-2009, 02:29 PM
Hopefully we can do something with the page "Community Council" as I am not sure what I am supposed to take from it. Where is the Wiki page info? It seems like this should be the front end to the Council, stick the blogging off to the side. Who is the council? what is the council?, this is your first chance to introduce yourselves and there is nothing there.
I just think NEW or OLD people coming to maemO.org will not take much from the current page. Which is the first place to find out about the community council. You end up with a bunch of blog posts. I think it chould be setup more like the IRC page with some real info about the council
When I click "Bugs and Features" Its just a blank page
http://maemo.org/community/bugs_and_features/
I can't really file a bug telling you "I dont know what maemo communtiy council is" and if should be clear as the first introduction to "Community Council" on MaEmo.oRg.
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Seriously though, I love the new site's look. Now lets just work on the some of the usability issues.
GeneralAntilles
04-23-2009, 02:33 PM
Now lets just work on the some of the usability issues.
Yes, addressing content is the plan. :)
GeneralAntilles
04-23-2009, 02:34 PM
When I click "Bugs and Features" Its just a blank page
http://maemo.org/community/bugs_and_features/
Loads just fine here.
penguinbait
04-23-2009, 02:43 PM
Loads just fine here.
I am running firefox 3.0.7 on centos 5.2
You right it works fine on my tablet and on IE7 and in konqueror
Any other firefox users having a problem? Mine is just a blank page
http://maemo.org/community/bugs_and_features/
GeneralAntilles
04-23-2009, 02:48 PM
Any other firefox users having a problem? Mine is just a blank page
Try forcing it to re-fetch? May be bad cache.
penguinbait
04-23-2009, 02:52 PM
Try forcing it to re-fetch? May be bad cache.
That did it. <shift> refresh
I'm not expert but I think this means a proxy in between is sending wrong headers (or the webserver itself?) Probably your ISP or local proxy? I remember some problems with proxy or reverse proxy at maemo, at the time.
geneven
04-24-2009, 10:47 AM
'"maemo.org", though a proper noun, should be all lowercase.'
ManY newspaperS won'T leT yoU overthroW thE ruleS oF spellinG foR nO gooD reasoN.
Their style guides say to ignore attempts to grab attention by using freaky capitalization.
Proper nouns, after all, are capitalized for a reason, not because of the whim of some entity.
GeneralAntilles
04-24-2009, 10:50 AM
Proper nouns, after all, are capitalized for a reason, not because of the whim of some entity.
The point is to further differentiate it from the Maemo trademark.
sjgadsby
04-24-2009, 11:13 AM
ManY newspaperS won'T leT yoU overthroW thE ruleS oF spellinG foR nO gooD reasoN.
Indeed, but then I wasn't writing advice to a New York Times columnist, I was offering a few points for consideration to a blogger. If Lord Raiden has a style guide for his site that directs him to write "maemo.org" as "Maemo.org", even just at the start of sentences, then bully for him. I have no problem with that. I was offering information, not looking for a fight.
At the same time, even the New York Times appears to have no problem disregarding proper capitalization (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/world/europe/02ipod.html) of titles and body text when it comes to certain other trademarks (http://www.apple.com/legal/trademark/appletmlist.html). I blame e.e. cummings and bell hooks.
Not sure if this was discussed already but when I tried to click on a "thumbs up" for an announcement without being logged, I am redirected to this:
https://maemo.org/?net_nemein_favourites_execute=fav&net_nemein_favourites_execute_for=212b2866344d11de b9ad7d7977fc1f131f13&net_nemein_favourites_url=/news/favorites/json/fav/midgard_article/212b2866344d11deb9ad7d7977fc1f131f13/
And it's an empty page.
timsamoff
04-29-2009, 01:14 PM
Not sure if this was discussed already but when I tried to click on a "thumbs up" for an announcement without being logged, I am redirected to this:
https://maemo.org/?net_nemein_favourites_execute=fav&net_nemein_favourites_execute_for=212b2866344d11de b9ad7d7977fc1f131f13&net_nemein_favourites_url=/news/favorites/json/fav/midgard_article/212b2866344d11deb9ad7d7977fc1f131f13/
And it's an empty page.
It's a known bug. Thanks! :)
Tim
Where's the "first unread" link?
I can't find the "my memory is running low, I have forgotten my password, please send it back to the email".
At least I remember my email..
YoDude
04-29-2009, 06:17 PM
Will all the various components of maemo.org eventually allow for a one size fits all registration and then maybe allow existing users to merge registrations?
Back in the day, the most frustrating thing I encountered after finding out that a bug would not allow my new $400 N800 to tether to my cell phone carrier was the simple act of reporting that bug and following through.
After registering with ITT and first learning of this thing called "Bugzilla" that could be found at Maemo.org, then registering there and learning that more info was available @ Maemo Garage, then registering there and being directed to "Bugzilla" where I was prompted for yet another registration... I almost "fixed" all my issues by tossing the tablet against the dang wall and walking away. :)
Between all the registration prompts and the "Invalid Security Certificate" pop ups from some of those sites it was a good 6 months before I finally got to report the bug and another 6 months before it was addressed.
Can new user interaction be tested with dummy "new user" accounts to see if those idiosyncrasies still exist?
GeneralAntilles
04-29-2009, 06:21 PM
Will all the various components of maemo.org eventually allow for a one size fits all registration and then maybe allow existing users to merge registrations?
SSO is planned, merging registrations is more complicated. As simple as it sounds, it is in fact an incredibly complicated thing to implement. You're more than welcome to help out (http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Single_sign-on), though.
YoDude
04-29-2009, 07:15 PM
SSO is planned, merging registrations is more complicated. As simple as it sounds, it is in fact an incredibly complicated thing to implement. You're more than welcome to help out (http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Single_sign-on), though.
No kidding.
Perhaps the first thing might be to allow the same credentials to be used by new registrants. As I recall during my experience I could not register with the same name at one of the component sites because there was already a user by that name listed.
I don't know for certain but I believe that the other user was actually me from my previous registration at another component site. Both sites may have referenced the same DB and yet that other sites credentials could not be used at the new site because I was not in the new sites users file...:confused:
(I hope that makes sense.)
In any event sometimes these "Catch 22" scenarios can not be realized until the processes are "wet run" with dummy credentials.
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