[ANNOUNCE] Mauku 2.0 for Fremantle

[hhedberg]

Mauku is the micro-blogging application for Maemo devices. It has a long history since Nokia 770 times. The earlier version 0.x is targeted for legacy devices (770, N800 and N810), and supports Jaiku and Twitter.

Now I proudly present Mauku 2.0 beta 1 for Fremantle! It utilizes the new Microfeed backend (http://www.microfeed.org) (maemo.org Talk thread (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=29942)). Mauku 2.0 supports Twitter and compatible services, such as Identi.ca and Qaiku, currently, but it expected to be support also, for example, Facebook later.

Mauku 2.0 application is specially designed to follow Fremantle style and user interface principles. Here are some screenshots:

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Mauku 2.0 beta 1 is available in extras-devel (Fremantle), and soon in extras-testing (package version says alpha 1, but it is actually beta 1 :) ), After starting the application, be sure to configure publishers. You can access the configuration from the window menu of the main window (click window title > Publishers).

[dkwatts]

Exciting! Mauku is my most useful app. Great work once again, hhedberg!

Do you have plans for a twitter RT feature?

[hhedberg]

Do you have plans for a twitter RT feature?

Look at the last screenshot: "Forward". It is a generic name for retweet (because the application will support also other services than Twitter).

[sampppa]

Good job!!

Thanx :)

[gerrymoth]

Okay I'm back on the Tablet scene again after getting a N800 donated to me, so how do I install Fremantle or can I just install the new Mauku by adding the repos to app manager?

[zerojay]

You'll need to have physical access to whatever the next tablet is going to be because Freemantle will not run on the current generation of tablets.

[X-Fade]

It seems that you are using section user/social in your packages. This is not one of the allowed sections and this will block promotion for your package.

[hhedberg]

It seems that you are using section user/social in your packages. This is not one of the allowed sections and this will block promotion for your package.

Duh... I took the category from some maemo.org wiki page, but it seemed to contain deprecated information. I will change it to user/network in beta 2, which will be out most probably within one week.

[qgil]

After installation there is no icon launcher showing app. Not even after rebooting. You have to reboot through command line.

It works! From the point of view of functionality it looks ready for extras-testing.

There is still that minor bug of having upper case for the first character in the password field.

It would be nicer if http:// @ and # string would be actual links...

EDIT: and while I was writing this... Crash Reporter says


'org.microfeed.Provider.Twitter' PID 1564 died to signal 11.

Actually the Mauku widget has some tendency to crash, I guess because the bug is in the backend anyway.

[Reggie]

Will it support multiple links on a tweet? Will it allow you to open a specific link?

[geneven]

What I want to know is whether you can do a search in Twitter, an essential Twitter function. If it can do that, I will use it more often than I do now. Hopefully, some version of the new Mauku will make its way to the N800/810.

[Jaffa]

Duh... I took the category from some maemo.org wiki page

Do you know which one? We should get it fixed; and extract the list (https://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Package_categories#New_list_for_Diablo) from its current location.

I will change it to user/network in beta 2, which will be out most probably within one week.

user/network sounds like the perfect fit.

[zerojay]

What I want to know is whether you can do a search in Twitter, an essential Twitter function. If it can do that, I will use it more often than I do now. Hopefully, some version of the new Mauku will make its way to the N800/810.

Yes, search needs to be there at the very least. Ideally, I'd like to see it match or come close to matching Gravity (http://mobileways.de/products/gravity/gravity/)'s feature set eventually.

But Mauku is a great start.

[gazza_d]

May be a daft or obvious question, but will/should this work in Mer?

If so, how can we get to install it to test etc.

Same goes for the other fremantle stuff coming out like Gpodder...

[ARJWright]

Aw man... now this is an app I want on my current IT, N97, and my next IT. Great job Mark

[qgil]

First post from Mauku 2.0: http://twitter.com/quimgil/status/3140558588

Note the "from API". Makes me look like a cool geek but I'd prefer some proper branding. :)

[hhedberg]

Note the "from API". Makes me look like a cool geek but I'd prefer some proper branding. :)

Naturally. Mauku has already own identity in Twitter. Please, wait for the beta 2. :)

[bergie]

Look at the last screenshot: "Forward". It is a generic name for retweet (because the application will support also other services than Twitter).

There is some discussion about that functionality (http://www.qaiku.com/channels/show/Qaiku/view/1de8201bf91e10a820111de8e8fd5c46aa55d1e5d1e/) on Qaiku right now. Forward might be a nice generic term. Like and Favourite have also been suggested.

[zerojay]

There is some discussion about that functionality (http://www.qaiku.com/channels/show/Qaiku/view/1de8201bf91e10a820111de8e8fd5c46aa55d1e5d1e/) on Qaiku right now. Forward might be a nice generic term. Like and Favourite have also been suggested.

Favorite and retweeting are two different things in Twitter, so Favorite being used for retweet would be a very bad thing.

[bergie]

Favorite and retweeting are two different things in Twitter, so Favorite being used for retweet would be a very bad thing.

Yep, I wrote on Qaiku (http://www.qaiku.com/channels/show/Qaiku/view/1de8201bf91e10a820111de8e8fd5c46aa55d1e5d1e/#qaiku_1de82844dc30e0e828411dea5278d4475fb9ae69ae6 ):

semantically there are four different actions user could theoretically want to take about a post: forward it to their friends, show that they like the post, bookmark it for later access or reply to it. But if we provide all of these the UI becomes quite cluttered

Retweeting is an ugly hack on top of missing functionality in the service itself. You lose connection with the retweet and the original entry, and replies to both. But of course who cares as Twitter isn't that conversational in the first place... :rolleyes:

[hhedberg]

There is some discussion about that functionality (http://www.qaiku.com/channels/show/Qaiku/view/1de8201bf91e10a820111de8e8fd5c46aa55d1e5d1e/) on Qaiku right now. Forward might be a nice generic term. Like and Favourite have also been suggested.

Mauku has also "Mark" functionality. It is a generic name for "like" or "favourite". :) It seems that Qaiku does not support that yet.

Old Mauku 0.x implemented the marking functionality even in Jaiku, which does not support it. After marking an item, also comments referring to that item were marked. That way it was easier to follow new comments of a specific conversation.

[hhedberg]

EDIT: and while I was writing this... Crash Reporter says

Actually the Mauku widget has some tendency to crash, I guess because the bug is in the backend anyway.

There is a known issue with locking in the Microfeed backend. It seems to realize more often in the armel environment than in the x86 environment. The bug will be fixed in couple of days when beta 2 is out.

Nevertheless, it would be helpful to get rich core dumps that the system is most probably generating when an application is crashing. Everybody who is testing Mauku in the device, please, send those reports to me.

[bergie]

Mauku has also "Mark" functionality. It is a generic name for "like" or "favourite". :) It seems that Qaiku does not support that yet.

Qaiku supports favouriting, but I haven't exposed that to the API (http://www.qaiku.com/api/usage/) yet. Should be reasonably quick to do, though.

[geneven]

Retweeting is essential. Bookmarking of tweets is less common. Showing that a post is liked is something that you can do with a comment or by retweeting it.

This is not a conversation about what should be allowed -- retweeting is in use, and if you want Twitter to be useful, you have to support it.

Yes, retweeting is ugly. That's beside the point.

[jukkaekl]

Stupid question: what is the URL of extras-testing?

[bergie]

Yes, retweeting is ugly. That's beside the point.

Yep. The discussion was about how Qaiku should implement it in a nicer way. Mauku already supports retweeting via the Forward button :cool:

[rcadden]

Looks good already, but I have a few questions, as well:

1. Will there be support for multiple accounts on the same service? I have several Twitter accounts that I currently manage in Gravity on my Symbian devices, and would love to have this supported in Mauku.

2. Is it possible to perhaps use columns for various things, ala Seesmic Desktop or Tweetdeck? The benefit is more information shown on a single screen, as right now, it looks like you can only see 4-5 tweets at a time, which would drive me batty.

[nwerneck]

Mauku is a great application, but i have to win the lottery before buying a N900/RX-51/Rover. If Mauku is being developed only for Fremantle now, what should us, the Diablo orphans do? Start a fork project? Wait to port it to mer?... Or perhaps compile curl to use ttytter?

[hhedberg]

1. Will there be support for multiple accounts on the same service? I have several Twitter accounts that I currently manage in Gravity on my Symbian devices, and would love to have this supported in Mauku.

Yes, it will. Actually, it does. You can configure as many Twitter and Twitter-like (using different url) servives as like.

QUOTE=rcadden;310202]2. Is it possible to perhaps use columns for various things, ala Seesmic Desktop or Tweetdeck? The benefit is more information shown on a single screen, as right now, it looks like you can only see 4-5 tweets at a time, which would drive me batty.[/QUOTE]

Not at least right now. I am not sure if multiple columns could fit into the small screen?

[timsamoff]

Not at least right now. I am not sure if multiple columns could fit into the small screen?
Or, the Maemo HIG for that matter. ;)

Tim

[hhedberg]

Mauku is a great application, but i have to win the lottery before buying a N900/RX-51/Rover. If Mauku is being developed only for Fremantle now, what should us, the Diablo orphans do? Start a fork project? Wait to port it to mer?... Or perhaps compile curl to use ttytter?

Use the old Mauku version 0.6.2? ;)

Mauku 2.0 is based on GTK+ and Hildon. There are only few widgets that are not available in Diablo (kinetic scrolling, for example, and I have implemented that already earlier). At least in theory it would be easy to port version 2.0 into Diablo also. However, I cannot promise that yet.

Another option would be to enhance the old Mauku to use the new Microfeed backend. Actually, version number 1.0 is reserved for that. :D Unfortunately I do not have enough time to make it happen (at least without help), but we are speaking open source software here. ;)

[nwerneck]

Use the old Mauku version 0.6.2? ;)

Mauku 2.0 is based on GTK+ and Hildon. There are only few widgets that are not available in Diablo (kinetic scrolling, for example, and I have implemented that already earlier). At least in theory it would be easy to port version 2.0 into Diablo also. However, I cannot promise that yet.

Another option would be to enhance the old Mauku to use the new Microfeed backend. Actually, version number 1.0 is reserved for that. :D Unfortunately I do not have enough time to make it happen (at least without help), but we are speaking open source software here. ;)

I might help... But I'm just starting to learn how to program with Maemo.

What is the best way to make the development in parallel, so that features can be easily included both in the Fremantle and Diablo versions?...

[alex_mayorga]

Where's this development happening?
I took a look at https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/?root=mauku and there's no Mauku 2.0 to be seen.

[hhedberg]

What is the best way to make the development in parallel, so that features can be easily included both in the Fremantle and Diablo versions?...

In that case it would be easiest to either port the Fremantle version into Diablo or switch the backend code of the Diablo version to utilize the new Microfeed library. In both cases at least the same providers for network services can be used without any further efforts.

[hhedberg]

Where's this development happening?
I took a look at https://garage.maemo.org/plugins/scmsvn/viewcvs.php/?root=mauku and there's no Mauku 2.0 to be seen.

In my laptop. :) It is the fastest and most flexible way to do development when there is only one developer. ;)

The backend code can be found from www.microfeed.org.

[Jaffa]

In my laptop. :) It is the fastest and most flexible way to do development when there is only one developer. ;)

I assume you're being facetious (because of the smiley) but:


With the current code sitting on your laptop you'll only ever have one developer (this is the same as Nokia doing lots of stuff internally and throwing it over the wall when "finished". Other developers could follow your commits and learn, or provide useful comment if development was done in the open).
"This is the fastest and most flexible way to do development" until you're hit by a bus. And then Mauku dies too.
"This is the fastest and most flexible way to do development" until you accidentally rm -rf the wrong folder.
"This is the fastest and most flexible way to do development" as long as you're sure you never want to refactor or experiment and know exactly what code is going to be written. Once committed you've got a safe place to go back to if your refactors/experiments don't work out.


In short (and with respect), you're wrong - you just might not know it yet ;-)

[hhedberg]

I assume you're being facetious (because of the smiley) but:


With the current code sitting on your laptop you'll only ever have one developer (this is the same as Nokia doing lots of stuff internally and throwing it over the wall when "finished". Other developers could follow your commits and learn, or provide useful comment if development was done in the open).


In short (and with respect), you're wrong - you just might not know it yet ;-)

I know a lot. ;) Mauku has been open for two years. Either it has not been interesting project to contribute or I have been too active myself, since no single piece of code expect mine went to production releases. I received one patch of which I included into unstable codebase. Unfortunately, the developer of that functionality never provider update of his code to fix remaining bugs.

However, I have received nice icons for Mauku (kudos to Thomas Perl of gPodder). That is the only external contribution.

Of course, the situation may be different now. :) If someone is really interested contributing, there should be no problem to put code into public repository.

And one important thing: Mauku (the application) is only a small part of the whole. All other parts are totally open. The most important thing is the Microfeed (http://www.microfeed.org/) backend (see the relevant thread (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=300571)). Also, the Mauku Widget is released under GPL, and you can see the code here: http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/source/m/mauku-widget/ . The application is not that different.

So, there are many spots to start helping me with Mauku. :)

[hhedberg]

Mauku 2.0 beta 2 is out now.

The development of this version has focused on stability. The application should be end-user quality now.

The next version may be the final (but not the last ;)) The focus will be on optimisations (speed and memory consumption).

Most of the work has happened in the Microfeed (http://www.microfeed.org/) backend.

[timsamoff]

...Either it has not been interesting project to contribute or I have been too active myself...
No, I think it's because Mauku has always "just worked" -- an it looks good too. :)

Tim

[yerga]

I have been testing a bit Mauku in Fremantle and it looks good except one thing I can't found: Twitter replies.

Is this feature removed in this version? Or should I go to sleep and try again tomorrow? ;-)

[hhedberg]

I have been testing a bit Mauku in Fremantle and it looks good except one thing I can't found: Twitter replies.

Is this feature removed in this version? Or should I go to sleep and try again tomorrow? ;-)

You can reply to a tweet, naturally. But "special feeds" like direct messages and @replies are not implemented yet. They will come... soon...

[hhedberg]

Mauku 2.0 beta 3 is out now and is going to extras-testing today.

This version introduces ability to follow comments of a tweet (if known by the application; Twitter API is very limited with this aspect).

Note that you have to remove cache directory manually before upgrading if you have used beta 1 or beta 2 previously. Type

rm -Rf /home/user/.microfeed

in the terminal before starting application manager.

[mani]

Hi,

I was testing Mauku 2.0 this weekend, Widgets have changed quite a lot from the older version and it looks great :)

Findings:

When i'm not connected to network i get an annoying message "Could not get feed" every minute.
Few crashes when trying to save settings and updating
Input fields for username/password weren't great :(

I would like to contribute to mauku, But just wondering where to start :)

[hhedberg]

I would like to contribute to mauku, But just wondering where to start :)

I think everything you described was related to the Microfeed backend. It is open source library that is under active development (by me ;) ). I appreciate any help and all contributions are welcome.

See the relevant thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=29942

[zerojay]

Just a question here. I haven't used the new Mauku, but I heard that you're using yellow to denote that a tweet is the start of a thread, correct? Like the 3rd image in your first post?

I really don't think that the color is very intuitive to indicate that it's the start of a thread. If I see yellow on a tweet, it makes me immediately think "favorited".

I think it's a lot more intuitive if you simply use tree view style triangles on the right side (not left as in the image below). Triangle pointing to the right to indicate that the tweet is the start of a thread. Upon click, the triangle spins downward exposing the rest of the thread. Having the rest of the thread be slightly indented from the left will further reenforce that those tweets are part of the same thread. Standard tree view behavior that everyone's familiar with.

http://evolvedoo.sourceforge.net/abstract/tree.gif

[hhedberg]

Just a question here. I haven't used the new Mauku, but I heard that you're using yellow to denote that a tweet is the start of a thread, correct? Like the 3rd image in your first post?


Actually, no. Yellow means that a tweet is a reply. :) Blue is the default colour meaning a normal tweet (which may be a start of a thread). But, yes, the idea you had is correct. (The origin of this colour scheme is Jaiku.)

I really don't think that the color is very intuitive to indicate that it's the start of a thread. If I see yellow on a tweet, it makes me immediately think "favorited".


There is a small star on the top-left corner of a favoried tweet in Mauku 2.0 (the star was on right side in old Mauku 0.x).


I think it's a lot more intuitive if you simply use tree view style triangles on the right side (not left as in the image below).

This was considered when designing the new Mauku 2.0 UI. However, there are couple of issues with tree style views in Mauku and Fremantle.

First, the depth of a such tree could be anything. There would be a single first tweet, but after that tweets could be nested very deeply, since replies may have replies also. (Jaiku prevents this and have actually a concept of a thread, but Twitter does not.) If every level were intended, let's say, 20 pixels, only after few levels, the message area would be very narrow.

Secondly, Mauku is built on the concept of timeline. The latest tweets are always on the top of the window. If tweets were grouped into threads, it would be much harder to find latest tweets, since an user had to browse all active threads to read new comments.

Thirdly, the Fremantle HIG does not encourage to use of nested tree style lists. :) I can see why. Instead, subwindows should be used.

When an user clicks a tweet in Mauku 2.0, a dialog appears (third image in my first post). If a tweet has (known) comments or is a reply, there are options to open a new window with the whole thread of tweets related to the selected tweet (a refererred tweet with the selected comment and other comments or the selected tweet with comments). It is similar, but not the same, functionality than in old Mauku 0.x, and solves the issues listed above.

However, thank you very much for the idea. :) Keep them coming!

P.S. I have discussed about these things with a professional interaction designer also. Tree view was the first idea he had also. ;) However, after some discussion, he changed his opinion.

[zerojay]

First, the depth of a such tree could be anything. There would be a single first tweet, but after that tweets could be nested very deeply, since replies may have replies also. (Jaiku prevents this and have actually a concept of a thread, but Twitter does not.) If every level were intended, let's say, 20 pixels, only after few levels, the message area would be very narrow.

I was thinking just a single level of nesting, exactly how Jaiku has it.

Thanks for responding.

[Jaffa]

Having played with Mauku on an N900 and the SDK, some comments:


One upgrade resulted in Twitter saying "provider closed connection". The preferences box had lost the custom fields (e.g. "username") and I couldn't delete them. Had to delete [font=monospace]~/.microfeed[/url] (or whatever it was) in X Terminal.
Switching to and from the Overview (the main screen for my use cases) to send a new message is cumbersome. AppMenu entry as well, please.
I want to be able to subscribe to a search (e.g. #NW09) and have that appear in the overview (perhaps the use of colour to show items which have come from your searches).
I want a "Share with Twitpic" service so I can take a picture with the camera, post it to Twitpic and have it linked into my Twitter feed in one go.
Open link doesn't work at all. It shows a list of the URLs in a tweet, but there's no "open" button and double-tapping on an item doesn't do anything at all. All I can do is close the dialogue and type the URL manually.

[hhedberg]

One upgrade resulted in Twitter saying "provider closed connection". The preferences box had lost the custom fields (e.g. "username") and I couldn't delete them. Had to delete [font=monospace]~/.microfeed[/url] (or whatever it was) in X Terminal.


It means that the provider crashed. There will be actually two improvements on this: Providers will be much more stable when bugs are fixed, and if some provider still crashed a subscriber (the application) will restart the provider and resubscribe transparently all feeds it had open before the provider crashed. (Mauku and Microfeed backend are separate processes.)

Switching to and from the Overview (the main screen for my use cases) to send a new message is cumbersome. AppMenu entry as well, please.


This is actually against HIG, but I like the idea. An option in the AppMenu could be for advanced users, when the main window is still there for beginners.

I want to be able to subscribe to a search (e.g. #NW09) and have that appear in the overview (perhaps the use of colour to show items which have come from your searches).


I was planning to implement search in a separate window, but I like your idea too. Let's see what happens. :)

I want a "Share with Twitpic" service so I can take a picture with the camera, post it to Twitpic and have it linked into my Twitter feed in one go.


Integration with the camera is not yet planned. However, viewing pictures in tweets is planned, but I am not yet sure when it lands.

Open link doesn't work at all. It shows a list of the URLs in a tweet, but there's no "open" button and double-tapping on an item doesn't do anything at all. All I can do is close the dialogue and type the URL manually.


Known in issue in beta. Will be fixed in the next version.

Thanks for your comments and ideas.

[Jaffa]

Integration with the camera is not yet planned. However, viewing pictures in tweets is planned, but I am not yet sure when it lands.

OK, that should be sufficient. Pixelpipe can do the Twitpic (and others) upload - or a new one should be able to be written trivally; a sharing plugin isn't really the scope of Mauku.

Viewing linked images would be cool, even if they're only tiny thumbnails.

[hhedberg]

Viewing linked images would be cool, even if they're only tiny thumbnails.

If you (anybody) want to help me to implement this feature in Mauku (actually in the Microfeed backend), please collect the following information of your favorite Twitter image services:


The URL pattern of a provided link in a tweet. Put an asterisk (*) in the place of the unique identifier of a linked image. (For example, in Twitpic, this seems to be http://twitpic.com/*.) Now, Mauku will search this link from all tweets.

The URL of the corresponding thumbnail image in the service. Use an asterisk as a substitute of the unique identifier got above. (For example, in Twitpic, this seems to be http://twitpic.com/show/mini/*.) This link will be used when showing the image in Mauku.

[conny]

I was planning to implement search in a separate window, but I like your idea too. Let's see what happens. :)

Are there any news regarding the search? I don't know much about Twitter and micro blogging and I have no intentions to generate content myself. The only think I use is to watch for these hashtags like, for example, #maemo5.

Is there a way to already do this with Mauku? I think it would be nice for the summit. There are probably many people writing about it with a special tag. Sorry if this has been asked before - I'm not very deep into this stuff ;)

[zerojay]

Mauku 2.0 beta 4 was just released and got a major facelift!

[Jack6428]

one thing im thinking...if i want to use ICQ/MSN...does Mauku 2 support these protocols or would it be better to use the integrated versions which can be installed into the built in IM client?

[zerojay]

one thing im thinking...if i want to use ICQ/MSN...does Mauku 2 support these protocols or would it be better to use the integrated versions which can be installed into the built in IM client?

You might be confused here. Mauku does not do any sort of instant messaging. It does microblogging... so Twitter, identica...

[Jack6428]

hm, i see..thanks for clearing that up..so i'll just wait until the ICQ/MSN plugins for the IM client are released then?

[franklinn]

Search will be great.
Also how about adding gps location info.

Great app though. Thanks

[varunkrish]

does mauku let me see replies to my tweets ?

[range]

Mauku 2.0 beta 4 was just released and got a major facelift!

Screenshots or it didn't happen :)

I'm having a mild case of device envy right now.

[RevdKathy]

Looks like Mauku will do what I need, then. :)

I have tweetdeck open right now: it shows a timeline of all my friends and my tweets, any replies to me even if they're not from my listed friends, a search I follow on one of the 'celebs' I interact with so we can have group conversations, a search on a hashtag and my direct messages. I can tweet, reply or direct message. I can also retweet. If retweet is missing, you use reply (to get the name) and copy/paste for the content (Maemo does that!) and shove RT in the front, so its absence isn't citical. Unless I'm mistaken, Mauku will do everything that tweetdeck does. And a whole pile more than jtwitter. Good enough for me!

[Walsted]

Is anybody able to help me figure out how to input my username and password ?
Apparently I cannot see the relevant fields for inputting this :(

[zerojay]

Screenshots or it didn't happen :)


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2495/4000818007_81c5e9fd2d.jpg

[Jaffa]

One thing I found quite good at the summit was using the RSS reader to show searches (#maesum, @jaffa2 etc.)

I've created a Yahoo! Pipe you can use to create a slightly nicer version of the Twitter RSS feed:

http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=efbe3e397d640f4b253391f83356ed6d


Open http://pipes.yahoo.com/pipes/pipe.info?_id=efbe3e397d640f4b253391f83356ed6d
Enter your search term in the Search box.
Copy the Get as RSS link into RSS.

Enter your search term in the "Search"

[Walsted]

Can it be true that no one have the same issues regarding missing input fields for username / Password in 2.0 beta 4 ?

It really annoyes me that I can not use Twitter on the N900, since I can not type in my username and password.

Pls help !!! :)

[hhedberg]

Can it be true that no one have the same issues regarding missing input fields for username / Password in 2.0 beta 4 ?


Unfortunately beta 4 in the extras-testing depended on wrong library versions. The newer beta 4 update 2 has the right libraries, but a backend database may be corrupted already if you have used the older version.

To delete the database, use X Terminal and the following command:

rm -R /home/user/.microfeed

If you restart Mauku and/or Mauku Widget after that you should be able to start from scratch with new credentials.

I am really sorry for the inconvience.

[rcadden]

I used to be a big proponent of Mauku (which was built for Jaiku, if I recall correctly, hence some of the missing features) but coming from Gravity on Symbian, there's several things that Mauku is missing (running the Beta 4 on my N900, btw)

1. Multiple accounts. This is crucial for me. I have 4 twitter accounts that I monitor/update, and I need to be able to use all of them at the same time (to switch instantly, without having to re-enter all my credentials each time)

2. Update from the timeline - I'm confused as to why I need to back out to the main screen just to update. Why not add a 'New Post' button to the options, or better yet, allow me to simply start typing from the Overview?

3. Twitpic support would be cool.

4. A 'replies' area would be cool, too, where I could simply see a single stream of all the @replies to me.

I'll keep putting together feedback as I use it.

[zerojay]

I used to be a big proponent of Mauku (which was built for Jaiku, if I recall correctly, hence some of the missing features) but coming from Gravity on Symbian, there's several things that Mauku is missing (running the Beta 4 on my N900, btw)

1. Multiple accounts. This is crucial for me. I have 4 twitter accounts that I monitor/update, and I need to be able to use all of them at the same time (to switch instantly, without having to re-enter all my credentials each time)

2. Update from the timeline - I'm confused as to why I need to back out to the main screen just to update. Why not add a 'New Post' button to the options, or better yet, allow me to simply start typing from the Overview?

3. Twitpic support would be cool.

4. A 'replies' area would be cool, too, where I could simply see a single stream of all the @replies to me.

I'll keep putting together feedback as I use it.

I agree with everything Ricky said here.

[Texrat]

Henrik, thank you very much for your continued work here (and sorry I did not get a chance to meet with you at the Summit).

Based on talks with others, I think I have a good idea for a future feature: the ability to filter OUT tweets based on tags.

For instance, RogerS commented that he needed two Twitter accounts to address different subjects. I can see value in that, but also in the obverse-- allow readers to say "I'm not interested in that particular topic" and exclude the referenced tags from their read list.

Thoughts?

[hhedberg]

1. Multiple accounts. This is crucial for me. I have 4 twitter accounts that I monitor/update, and I need to be able to use all of them at the same time (to switch instantly, without having to re-enter all my credentials each time)


That is supported already. Just configure a new provider in the "advanced" mode. (There will be an enhancement for Microfeed Configuration application to make it more user friendly.)

2. Update from the timeline - I'm confused as to why I need to back out to the main screen just to update. Why not add a 'New Post' button to the options, or better yet, allow me to simply start typing from the Overview?


I have really consider that. Similar button than in Calendar or Email application (Modest) would work.

3. Twitpic support would be cool.


That is coming.

4. A 'replies' area would be cool, too, where I could simply see a single stream of all the @replies to me.


That is coming too.

Please, do not make too hard judgements based on beta versions in a pre-sales device... ;)

[rcadden]

That is supported already. Just configure a new provider in the "advanced" mode. (There will be an enhancement for Microfeed Configuration application to make it more user friendly.)


Aha, figured it out (you have to name it something different, like 'Twitter2' or something.

I don't mean to make harsh judgments - I've used Mauku on the N800 and N810, and being the only Twitter client for Maemo at the moment, Mauku is part of the reason I'm even able to pretend to use the N900 as a primary device, and I'm definitely glad to have it.

I'm just used to using Gravity on my Symbian-powered devices, and it's far more advanced (of course, it's a commercial app, so the developer has more time/motivation/resources) as well (and I'm aware of that, too).

[RevdKathy]

Hi hhedberg. Thanks for your post here (and in the other thead) and thanks for the work on Mauku. I don't yet have a device, but I'm excited about what mauku will do eventually. A decent twitter app is one of my 'must haves'. It seems you've already thought of everything (Saved searches would be nice eventually!) and have them in hand.

(Love the name too - the idea of a miaow catching a tweet... ;) )

[hhedberg]

Mauku had a critical bug in its backend code, which is now fixed. Make sure that you have the version 20091018 of the Microfeed package available in extras-testing.

If you have N900 and you are using Mauku, please, vote:

http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/mauku/2.0-beta4update2

The aim is not to judge user interface details, but to check that the app is not blasting your device, see:

http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing

I am planning to release a new version with @replies and private message, for example, but it would be nice to have beta 4 in the Extras before that.

[hhedberg]

Mauku 2.0 beta 4 (update 2) is available in Extras now!

I am not perfectly happy with that version, and there will be a new version in extras-testing next week. I will announce that later. However, it takes some time to get that version into Extras.

[RevdKathy]

Makes me pine for my poor, lost n900 even more. Stuck somewhere between here and Finland, my n900 (still to be named) will be collecting mauku as a priority.

[Micky]

Any news on this Beta 5 you mentioned on twitter a week or so ago? You mentioned now solid as a rock, and has replies, and DM's. I sent you a tweet asking you to email me, but nothing received?

[yerga]

Mauku 2.0 beta 4 (update 2) is available in Extras now!

I am not perfectly happy with that version, and there will be a new version in extras-testing next week. I will announce that later. However, it takes some time to get that version into Extras.

Congratulations!

In a related note, while I can understand that microfeed must be visible in the application manager to update.

Is it necessary be visible in maemo.org/downloads?
The downloads page has an option to do invisible some item. IMHO, it shouldn't be shown in this place.

I know it goes automatically to the downloads page when it's promoted to Extras and probably you haven't had time to check it.

What do you think?

[Micky]

Tried to download todays update, but when downloaded to N900, when it tried to install, it said, "mauku is already installed". No option to update?

[hhedberg]

Is it necessary be visible in maemo.org/downloads?
The downloads page has an option to do invisible some item. IMHO, it shouldn't be shown in this place.


Thanks for the idea. I removed/hided it from the Downloads.

[hhedberg]

Tried to download todays update, but when downloaded to N900, when it tried to install, it said, "mauku is already installed". No option to update?

You probably have the latest version installed already. This is the very same version that has been in extras-testing for some time (due to limitations in the QA process).

[rcadden]

any update on this? im desperately needing a replies view, and would *love* to be able to view each accounts' main stream as its own, rather than all jumbled together, similar to seesmic desktop.

[Tintin]

Will there be any OS2008 version updates or is that version now abandoned?

[rcadden]

It actually seems as though *this* version is abandoned.

[conny]

It actually seems as though *this* version is abandoned.

You do realize that people here have normal day jobs and a life besides maemo.org? Only because there is no update for about a month does not mean that something is abandoned.

[zerojay]

Will there be any OS2008 version updates or is that version now abandoned?

Versions for OS2008 or older are no longer maintained.

[Micky]

It actually seems as though *this* version is abandoned.

You do realize that people here have normal day jobs and a life besides maemo.org? Only because there is no update for about a month does not mean that something is abandoned.

Agree with Ricky on this one.. I have personally tried contacting, and offering to help the developer of mauku via many sources, including email, twitter etc. Emailing via contact on his website, twitter accounts, and from all accounts, @mauku for example, the last tweet from @mauku was over a month ago with the promise of Beta 5 which was claimed to be rock solid, and have DM's, and @ Columns.

No reply from the developer from any of my shouts to help, or get a response.

[rcadden]

You do realize that people here have normal day jobs and a life besides maemo.org? Only because there is no update for about a month does not mean that something is abandoned.

Yes I realize that, but it also takes 10 seconds to pop on here and say, 'sorry guys, still working on it' or something to that effect. I'm not asking for it to be released immediately, but a little communication one way or another wouldn't hurt anyone.

[dwould]

Well I have written a python twitter client which works on n810 and n900. not nearly as polished as mauku, and I garuntee not even remotely as well written, but it does support separate views for 'mentions', direct messages, public timeline, trends, and a search. as well as supporting twitpic.

However my problem is that I can't for the life of me get it to package. following the instructions at http://wiki.maemo.org/Py2deb
in my fremantle scratchbox env the build script just fails with some dbus error.
GLIB ERROR ** default - Not enough memory to set up DBusConnection for use with GLib

so if anyone can figure out a sensible way for me to make it available, then I'll be happy for the help.

[zaheerm]

Well I have written a python twitter client which works on n810 and n900. not nearly as polished as mauku, and I garuntee not even remotely as well written, but it does support separate views for 'mentions', direct messages, public timeline, trends, and a search. as well as supporting twitpic.

However my problem is that I can't for the life of me get it to package. following the instructions at http://wiki.maemo.org/Py2deb
in my fremantle scratchbox env the build script just fails with some dbus error.
GLIB ERROR ** default - Not enough memory to set up DBusConnection for use with GLib

so if anyone can figure out a sensible way for me to make it available, then I'll be happy for the help.

In scratchbox, make sure you run it with run-standalone.sh eg. run-standalone.sh my_python_script.py

If you want to create a simple package for a simple python app, have a look at zoutube's debian directory on github at http://github.com/zaheerm/zoutube/

[twaelti]

in my fremantle scratchbox env the build script just fails with some dbus error.
GLIB ERROR ** default - Not enough memory to set up DBusConnection for use with GLib

See the Developer FAQ (http://wiki.maemo.org/Developer_frequently_asked_questions), Item #2.1 :D

[dwould]

See the Developer FAQ (http://wiki.maemo.org/Developer_frequently_asked_questions), Item #2.1 :D

Thanks!, I have found it relatively hard to find all the information I need. or perhaps just overwhelming that there are lots of different sources, and it's hard to know which ones to read. (all of them I guess....but I have no time for that)
In the end I wound up running it on my device. So I'm now waiting for authority to try using auto builder. I'll see if I can get a diablo and fremantle version packaged up.

[Micky]

I have asked the Mauku developer now if he is prepared to make the Mauku client source code available to another developer who can finish what Henrik started.

[qwerty12]

From debian/copyright in the archive mauku_2.0-beta4update2.tar.gz, found at http://repository.maemo.org/extras-devel/pool/fremantle/free/source/m/mauku/:

Mauku 2.0
Copyright (C) 2009 Henrik Hedberg <henrik.hedberg [AT] innologies.fi>

Mauku 2.0 is NOT open source software. You are NOT allowed to
modify or redistribute the source code.


Sounds futile.

[Micky]

Gutted. Hope Henrik is ok, and nothing has happened to him, I just wish he would respond.

[ZogG]

not working with API anymore, time to move on to OAuth

[ZogG]

i was mistaken before, but now i think twitter doesn't work with API anymore. anyone succeded to contact henrick?

[campboot]

You should try henrik.hedberg@iki.fi, I suppose that's the best address to contact him..