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TheBootroo
08-31-2009, 04:15 AM
Hello !

I write to you cause I have a question :
I want to test Maemo 5 and I don't found where I can download it : I found the SDK but what I want is the real system cause the SDK is really limited and buggy (no more than 16bit color depth, segfaults, no apps in it, nothing in repositories ...)

Logically , since Maemo is a kind of Linux distro we could be able to test it but I really didn't find where I may download it ...

Do you have an idea for my problem ? (I talk to Maemo's devs, who have surely a compilated version of Maemo for testing ... I'm an Ubuntu tester and I would love to test Maemo too ....)


Thanks
lardman
08-31-2009, 04:50 AM
Wait for the hardware, as that's all it will run on (unless you just take a look at Mer, which is using the same or similar updated components and will run on various platforms, but doesn't have the Nokia differentiator stuff -> apps and spangly UI (yet;))).
dieter_be
08-31-2009, 05:26 AM
hmm.. since it's just an ARM cpu i would guess it should be possible to run it on an emulator (or to crosscompile it). you may not get emulation for all the specialized chips but it should be possible to just run the basic stuff I think.
Andre Klapper
08-31-2009, 06:12 AM
Maemo 5 has not been published yet.
If you have issues with the SDK ("SDK is really limited and buggy") then please take a look at bugs.maemo.org and file reports if they have not been filed yet.
E.g. "nothing in repositories" is not true.
TheBootroo
08-31-2009, 08:12 AM
concretely, i want to download Maemo 5 beta exactely as i've done many times with ubuntu beta, fedora alpha, debian RC .... etc.

Maemo is open-source but I don't found the sources, it's not good ...

Then I know that Maemo is made for ARM devices (but i've seen that it have a x86 build too) and the goal is to compile it (or find a compiled version) and then test it in Virtual box, on an EEE PC or a ARM-based netbook ..

Have you got any suggestion for me ?
TheBootroo
08-31-2009, 08:20 AM
and i've already tested Mer but it's not at all the same as Maemo 5 :
it looks more like OS2008 , but even more ugly ... (themes, fonts and icons are not consistent at all, unlike Fremantle).
zerojay
08-31-2009, 08:24 AM
Maemo 5 is not available yet. No, there is no way for you to "test it out" and get the UI stuff. You'll have to wait for the hardware.

No need to attack Mer now.
qwerty12
08-31-2009, 08:27 AM
Available choices for "using Maemo 5" on a computer: The SDK; Mer; or nothing. Take your pick.
TheBootroo
08-31-2009, 08:29 AM
what do you mean when you say : "wait for the hardware" ?

i have to wait that the n900 is out and then i could download maemo 5 ?
or just i have to buy one to test maemo 5 ?
zerojay
08-31-2009, 08:39 AM
When the hardware is released, the source will be released (if it hasn't been already). You'll be able to download the source and everything, but don't expect that the full official OS is going to run straight on your PC. Don't expect to use the SDK or the source to give you your own virtual N900 to test out on your computer.
karatchov
08-31-2009, 08:59 AM
@TheBootroo: even if maemo5 is open source, that doesent mean it will run in every hardware, neither does that mean that the full (complete) OS will be open-sourced, some components will remain close-sourced.

Even once the hardware is released, there is no guarantee that you can run the whole OS in your PC.

So, bottom line, if you like to test Maemo 5, try maemo SDK or mer.
If you like to use maemo 5, wait for the hardware.

And please, learn to ask politely, the community is here to help, not to serve.
zerojay
08-31-2009, 09:04 AM
Also, some apps and parts of the OS may be closed source and unavailable to run elsewhere.
silverroots
08-31-2009, 09:13 AM
I think thats where nokia is going to give lot of surprises. If they allow us to download the complete maemo 5 before the actual hardware with OS release, there wont be much hype of the release. And people wont be much excited. I think waiting for the actual release is better. Till then we can play around with the SDK. Its not that bad for developers. I have tried it and works for me..
VDVsx
08-31-2009, 09:24 AM
Maemo is open-source but I don't found the sources, it's not good ...
You have to search better ;) : http://repository.maemo.org/pool/maemo5.0beta2/
JayOnThaBeat
08-31-2009, 02:04 PM
and i've already tested Mer but it's not at all the same as Maemo 5 :
it looks more like OS2008 , but even more ugly ... (themes, fonts and icons are not consistent at all, unlike Fremantle).

Somebody message totololo (http://talk.maemo.org/member.php?u=22418) and have him explain it to this guy.

Yeesh!