N900 UK Networks

[epoch24]

Ok today Nokia just outed that all those customisation stories were just stories and there is no truth about them.
So if any one of you know who is going to do this phone in the UK, please lemme know i m due for an upgrade soon and this info will be really appreciated. I know eXpansys is going to this so if you know any other Network...please please please

http://conversations.nokia.com/2009/09/11/maemo-and-n900-many-customization-points-for-operators/

[dansus]

If you want the N900 subsidised but without any customisation, just buy the phone with a contract from Expansys.

[R-R]

expansys does cell phone contracts?! i thought they were just a store!

[dansus]

They sell contracts on behalf of the carriers, in return they get a set subsidy to offer customers depending on monthly charge and the carriers dont have to do all the technical and warranty stuff.

Basically they buy a load of phones from the manufactures and you just choose the contract you want to go with it. (in the UK at least)

[Faz]

They sell contracts on behalf of the carriers, in return they get a set subsidy to offer customers depending on monthly charge and the carriers dont have to do all the technical and warranty stuff.

Basically they buy a load of phones from the manufactures and you just choose the contract you want to go with it. (in the UK at least)

Good to know, thanks! :)

Sounds like something Carphone Warehouse do / used to in the UK too.

[dansus]

Sorry my bad. Atleast in the UK it is subsidized. I dont think it will happen in the US

http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Pay-As-You-Go/sc462/p26078.aspx

£392 on pay as you go, and it will be unbranded and unlocked. Awesome!

Im so there.

[dansus]

ps: those looking for an uber deal, seems like Tmobile and Vodafone will sell these and some peeps will grab one on upgrade and sell it on ebay and CEX, meaning you can usually grab yourself a deal.

I bought my E71 from CEX about a week after it came out, brand new, unbranded for £220. :D

[NvyUs]

wish i waited a week longer its seems theres going to be awesomely low competitive prices in the UK but i'm too eager and want it as quick as possible so went directly to nokia

[slate8]

£392 on pay as you go, and it will be unbranded and unlocked. Awesome!

Im so there.
Yeah, great to see a good UK deal appear! So tempted to buy now... or do we wait and see what else appears... hmm :)

[krk969]

£392 on pay as you go, and it will be unbranded and unlocked. Awesome!

Im so there.

Sorry, maybe Im missing the point here, but how do we know that these would be unbranded and non-customized versions ?

Could this not be possible that this reseller actually buys it from vodaphone in case vodaphone would be confirmed that they are selling the N900's ?
In that case it would be branded, locked and even customized in who knows what way !

Would anybody help clarify this please ? the deal sounds irresistable , its a whopping £100 less !

[krk969]

maybe this answers....

http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/SIM-Free-Mobiles/sc460/p26078.aspx


from the same reseller...
still good, £50 less than nokia shop.:)

[Gadgetoid]

Good grief, this is like my wait for the TyTN2 all over again. Back then I actually borrowed money from my baby daughter to fund its purchase.

I'm surely going for an unbranded phone, and contemplating going completely SIM free but finding a decent low-minutes, high data access SIM-only deal seems to be a futile effort.

[eiffel]

Guys, "pre-order" prices mean nothing in the UK. They contact you when the device is actually available, and quote you the current price which you can then choose to accept or reject.

It's likely that the re-sellers will be cheaper than the direct Nokia price, but don't count on anything until you can actually buy one at that price.

[Alex Atkin UK]

I got my Xperia X1 from http://mobiles.co.uk (part of Carphone Warehouse) and am keeping on eye on them for the N900 too.

I am hoping I can sell my Xperia to go towards getting the N900 as I am sick of Windows Mobile, its too unstable and seems to seriously lack in apps. I even tried writing my own but every time I found something useful it was not available on the mobile API, really annoying.

I am hoping Maemo is more a case of "if its available on Linux, its probably available on the N900" especially as a lot of useful stuff is command line only so would only need a simple GUI written to make it usable by touch.

[Withnail]

Sorry, maybe Im missing the point here, but how do we know that these would be unbranded and non-customized versions ?

Could this not be possible that this reseller actually buys it from vodaphone in case vodaphone would be confirmed that they are selling the N900's ?
In that case it would be branded, locked and even customized in who knows what way !

Would anybody help clarify this please ? the deal sounds irresistable , its a whopping £100 less !


I also couldn't quite believe this deal, so got on to their 'live help'

Hello Steve. My name is Webshop Customer Help how can I help you?
Steve says:
Hi
Webshop Customer Help says:
Hi
Steve says:
I have seen this morning that you are offering the Nokia N900 on SIM Free and PrePay
Webshop Customer Help says:
Yes
Steve says:
I jsut wanted to confirm the differences between the two offers
Webshop Customer Help says:
Ok
Steve says:
I see that the pre-pay is £50 cheaper
Webshop Customer Help says:
Yes
Steve says:
does this mean the device is sim locked to Vodafone?
Webshop Customer Help says:
No
Steve says:
ok, is it Vodafone Branded?
Webshop Customer Help says:
no
Steve says:
Ok, so does this mean that the only difference is the inclusion of the Voda prepay card?
Webshop Customer Help says:
Yes voda assume that your be using the sim card and topping up so pay a bit towards the handset for you making it cheaper to buy the phone this way
Steve says:
ok, so apart from this this will be the same device pack as per the SIM free offer?
Webshop Customer Help says:
Yes
Steve says:
Thanks sorry for all the questions!
Webshop Customer Help says:
no problem
Steve says:
when do you expect stock delivery?
Webshop Customer Help says:
No exact date im afraid, mid to late october as far a we know
Steve says:
ok, thank you for all you help!
Webshop Customer Help says:
Thats ok no problem

Good news!

Looks like I'm off to cancel my Nokia store preorder

Although, I guess the Nokia store will be the first to deliver devices (begining of October?) but can't resist a 20% discount for a few more weeks of impatience.. :D

[slate8]

Wow, good work Withnail!

[krk969]

Ok guys this is a long one, I just had a chat with a hopefully "live" ;-) agent at

http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/...60/p26078.aspx

Please wait. A representative will be with you shortly.
One moment please...
We apologize for the delay. A representive will be with you shortly.
Webshop Customer Help says:
Hello Kris. This is Webshop Customer Help how can we help you?
Kris says:
Hi there
Kris says:
i saw on your website, 2 diff deals for the Nokia N900.
Kris says:
one which is PAYG on Vodaphone for 398 and the other SIM free for 448
Kris says:
what is the difference between the two as far as the handset is concerned , would you please clarify? and when is the stock expected ?
Webshop Customer Help says:
Stock will be the end of October. The handsets are the same, however the PAYG version is locked to the netwrok you buy it on. The sim free version is as it states, sim free and open to all network sims.
Kris says:
OK that explains, thanks
Kris says:
also
Kris says:
are the prices fixed or would it change when the devices are actually released
and if i pre-order now, even if the price increases after the launch, i wouldn't be affected right ? i still pay the pre-order price
Webshop Customer Help says:
Yes you will pay the pre-order price


Of course the one with the SIM is locked why else would it be £50 cheaper than the SIM free.

quite tempting but still unable to decide , dont know what advantage I would have buying directly from Nokia........

[jaark]

wish i waited a week longer its seems theres going to be awesomely low competitive prices in the UK but i'm too eager and want it as quick as possible so went directly to nokia

I did exactly the same.
It's a pre-order. Just cancel it.

I have now ordered from mobilephonesdirect. The subsidised price (£0 !!) makes it much cheaper. My quick calculations work out about £200 cheaper over 18 months (including a charge for the early termination of my existing contract).

[epoch24]

I would suggest if the 50£ isnt too much of a factor for you, but it direct from Nokia, although the company in concern is said to be reputable but still you cant beat the real Nokia store aprt from the gurantee that you are getting a as nokia meant it to be product after sales service is amazing, a fact i can say for certain experience that is not available on mobile phones direct.

[dansus]

In theory it is supposed to be locked if you buy on payg from a reseller, in practice it is often unlocked.

[dansus]

Sorry, maybe Im missing the point here, but how do we know that these would be unbranded and non-customized versions ?

Could this not be possible that this reseller actually buys it from vodaphone in case vodaphone would be confirmed that they are selling the N900's ?
In that case it would be branded, locked and even customized in who knows what way !

Would anybody help clarify this please ? the deal sounds irresistable , its a whopping £100 less !


As ive explained before, resellers buy a load direct from the manufacture and sell it on with a sim.

[Withnail]

Typical.. I'd just cancelled my ordered from Nokia and placed an order with Mobile Phones Direct (MPD) and now there's differing opinion from the MPD support staff as to whether the N900 supplied on pre-pay is SIM locked or not..

I'll be quite surprised if the device is actually locked, if (as I was told) they are the same SKU as the 'Sim Free' boxes.

I find it hard to believe that MPD are opening the boxes on devices to be sold as Pre-pay and applying a SIM lock themselves - I thought that normally SIM/network locked devices are variants customised for the network (along with settings / branding etc.)

Does anyone else have any experience with Mobile Phones Direct unbranded pre-pay devices?

I guess the $64,000 question is whether it is possible for us to reflash the baseband, with the aim of resetting any SIM or Network locks.

If anyone has experience on flashing the Proto's it would be great to hear whether it is only the application layer being rewritten, or whether it's combined with the protocol stack / BB part.

[dansus]

I'll be quite surprised if the device is actually locked, if (as I was told) they are the same SKU as the 'Sim Free' boxes.

I find it hard to believe that MPD are opening the boxes on devices to be sold as Pre-pay and applying a SIM lock themselves - I thought that normally SIM/network locked devices are variants customised for the network (along with settings / branding etc.)


If you buy from the carrier then it will be branded and locked but it takes time for these firmwares to come through and even upgrades from networks come unbranded in the early days.

Its just not worth the time and money for resellers to mess about with these things, they are all about volume, get em out as fast as possible for the minimum operating cost. Thats why in reality even the payg ones are unlocked.

If your concerned, buy the sim free version from whoever you feel comfortable with.

[pwannell]

i dont think its a good idea to buy the pay as you go as i was also told it will be locked. :S not a good idea.

[Wizard of Oz]

I'm due an upgrade at t mobile so I thought I'd call them up and see if my upgrade price would be a lot cheaper than buying sim free (doesn't usually happen as I'm on half price line rental for life so they make me pay for upgrades) and the guy on the other end of the phone said they haven't been told about the n900 being out end of Sept/beginning of Oct so he reckons it wouldn't be available until the end of October.

[eiffel]

In theory it is supposed to be locked if you buy on payg from a reseller, in practice it is often unlocked.
It can vary on a batch-by-batch basis. Sometimes the carrier can be bothered to produce a run of sim-locked devices, sometimes they can't. It depends on sales volumes, stock levels, cash flow, all kinds of things.

[dansus]

£459.95 at Mobile Fun, 2 year warranty, ‘30 Day No-Quibble Money Back Guarantee’.

http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/sim-free-nokia-n900-p21485.htm

[epoch24]

there is nearly a 100% chance that the handsets obtained on pay as you go from these third party reselers are unlocked, especially since none of the major networks have announced it. Do you really think Vodafone or tmobile or O2 or any of these guys will take the time and the money asking Nokia for branded handsets and then not even sell it using their own channels. When they say pay as you go on a handset such as this one is simply the fact that these third party resellers have a tie up with the network wherin they promise to sell a handset with a network sim card for which the network might give them a percentage based subsidy. The network wins as it shows one more customer on its charts, the reseller wins because they just made a decent profit and you win because well you are happy that you saved 40 to 50 £'s.

[Faz]

£392.99 is an amazing price!!

I would be very surprised if it's SIM locked too but can understand why retailers don't openly advertise this.

Unless there are any better prices at launch I think I will purchase from these guys, but with a little extra "insurance."

My plan is to confirm this via LiveChat shortly before placing the order, including their name and saving the log. (Repeat chat until positive outcome :p)

In the unlikely event the N900 I receive is SIM locked I will demand a full refund, including P&P, under the Sales of Goods Act 1979 (as amended), section "Not fit for purpose" which includes circumstances when a sales person confirms an item is suitable for a customer's particular use (i.e. with an Orange SIM card).

Check here (http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/shopping/consumer-rights-refunds-exchan) for a summary of your S.A.D. F.A.R.T. rights. :rolleyes:

[Withnail]

My plan is to confirm this via LiveChat shortly before placing the order, including their name and saving the log. (Repeat chat until positive outcome :p)


It seems the LiveChat staff have been singing from a different hymn sheet since my first conversation with them! (#15)

Thankfully I took the opportunity to email myself the transcript in case of dispute, but hope this won't be necessary.
..either that, or an N900 locked to Vodafone will be making its way onto eBay :p

[Faz]

It seems the LiveChat staff have been singing from a different hymn sheet since my first conversation with them! (#15)

Thankfully I took the opportunity to email myself the transcript in case of dispute, but hope this won't be necessary.
..either that, or an N900 locked to Vodafone will be making its way onto eBay :p

Typical eh!

I may be able to get it even cheaper, SIM unlocked, just waiting on confirmation...

[Withnail]

Typical eh!

I may be able to get it even cheaper, SIM unlocked, just waiting on confirmation...

Nice, looking forward to hearing the outcome!

FYI: It seems in the case of Mobile Phones Direct, buying an N900 on pre-pay with a lock is still going to be £30 cheaper than 'SIM Free'

From the Vodafone UK website:

Except for the BlackBerry Storm, we will supply a Network Unlock Code (NUC) for you if you've bought a phone from us on either pay monthly or pay as you go. A NUC allows you to use non-Vodafone SIM cards with your Vodafone phone.

If the phone is on pay as you go and over 12 months old the code will also be free of charge.
For pay as you go phones less than 12 months old a charge of £19.99 including VAT applies. The £19.99 will need to be credited to your phone before you apply for the code. Once the NUC has been issued the charge will be debited.

To get a NUC code you need to contact your customer services team.

Contact Customer Service

We will need the following information for us to process your code request -

your active Vodafone mobile number (if you don't have one you can order a free pay as you go SIM card online and can get your NUC as soon as this is registered)
your phone's serial number/ IMEI (enter *#06# into the phone to get this, or you can look on the manufacturer's sticker which is underneath the battery, it is a 15-20 digit code starting 35)
the make and model of phone or device
an alternative contact number for you
an email address for you.

If the IMEI number is kept on our systems we can give you the NUC straight away. If we don't hold the details there is a timescale of 72 hours to retrieve the code from the mobile phone manufacturer. The main exception to this is Samsung, who have a timescale of up to 16 days.

[epoch24]

This just brings out one question, even if a network actually locks a handset doesnt it only cost like 3 £ to unlock it and also when a phone is actualy unlocked does it mean that all the network installed crap is outta the window.

[Faz]

This just brings out one question, even if a network actually locks a handset doesnt it only cost like 3 £ to unlock it and also when a phone is actualy unlocked does it mean that all the network installed crap is outta the window.

SIM locking and operator branding are two different things.

Symbian based Nokia phones have historically been relatively easy to remove SIM locks, as has debranding by simply amending the phone's product codes to a generic non-operator country code, then performing a normal PC based firmware update. Update app checks product code and pulls down the latest revision, overwriting any existing branded one.

No idea how this would work with the N900. Whilst most of it is open source, I remember reading somewhere that the cellular parts of the device are closed.

[epoch24]

Just got word Carphone warehouse loyality confirmed today that they are getting the Nokia N900 for a mid october release. Also confirmed is the fact that it will be free on 35£ a month for a 18 month contract.

[pelago]

What are O2 like for 3G data plans? Do they have Fair Use Policies, allow tethering, allow use of a wifi hotspot network, etc?

[epoch24]

What are O2 like for 3G data plans? Do they have Fair Use Policies, allow tethering, allow use of a wifi hotspot network, etc?

Their 3g service quite good, the Iphone sits on it so you can imagine they have beefed it up to handle most overloads. Although if you are in a rural part then I really dont know how it would fair but most big towns and cities are taken care of.

Yes they do, its 250 MB on normal and 500 MB for business, still check up what is what on ur plan.

Tetherin on iphone, I dont know but they cried devil when i mentioned it on my diamond, so I dont think you could get away with that.

They have a range of wifi hot spots but again limited to the larger cities, I am from cardiff a capital city for that matter but still wifi is a very limited, if you are in London or Birmingham on the other hand then lucky you...

[dansus]

What are O2 like for 3G data plans? Do they have Fair Use Policies, allow tethering, allow use of a wifi hotspot network, etc?

You can get an Unlimited Data Bolt-on to your plan for £7.50, but is restricted in some ways;

The O2 Web & Wi-Fi Bolt On allows you unlimited use of O2 UK's Edge, GPRS, 3G and HSDPA networks, The Cloud's UK Wireless LAN network and the BT Openzone UK Wireless LAN network, for personal internet use and email. All usage must be for your private, personal and non-commercial purposes.

You may not use your SIM Card in any device to allow the continuous streaming of any audio / video content, enable P2P or file sharing or use them in such a way that adversely impacts the service to other O2 customers. If O2 reasonably suspect you are not acting in accordance with this policy O2 reserves the right to impose further charges or disconnect your tariff at any time, having attempted to contact you first.

If your buying sim free and want to use O2, then the iPhone payg sim is available, where if you top up with ten pounds, you get unlimited data. Reports suggest 2-3gb is no problem, but this loop hole may be closed by O2 at any time.

These are available on ebay.

[DannStarr]

Their 3g service quite good, the Iphone sits on it so you can imagine they have beefed it up to handle most overloads. Although if you are in a rural part then I really dont know how it would fair but most big towns and cities are taken care of.

Yes they do, its 250 MB on normal and 500 MB for business, still check up what is what on ur plan.

Tetherin on iphone, I dont know but they cried devil when i mentioned it on my diamond, so I dont think you could get away with that.

They have a range of wifi hot spots but again limited to the larger cities, I am from cardiff a capital city for that matter but still wifi is a very limited, if you are in London or Birmingham on the other hand then lucky you...

This is not a personal dig at you, but it's definitely a dig at O2. I bought the new iphone 3GS on PAYG from O2... my intention was to use my own sim card in it all along, but when I realised I got unlimited web AND wifi hotspots free for a year, I thought to hell with it, i'll use O2. Their 2G coverage in areas where I live / work is excellent, and despite having notoriously bad 3G coverage, most areas I visted were actually covered by a full 3.5G signal... I was delighted.

A few days in to ownership, I was having troubles connecting to the web. Signal was strong, settings were correct, I started to doubt my iphone. I turned it on / off, did factory resets and restores but still no joy with internet. I called O2 to ask if there was a problem... must be the phone they said so I took it back to them for them to see. Wouldn't you just believe it, the internet worked when I took it back to the shop!!

A few days pass and the problem returns, I turn to the internet in an attempt to find a solution, I then become overwhelmed at how many people around the whole country suffering the same problem.

I had only just "joined" O2, so I just thought, oh well, a temporary problem, everything will be alright.... I was wrong, this problem seemed to become worse and worse. I ditched O2 and since using another network I have had zero problems connecting to the net.
Visit the O2 forum. this problem is still happening every few days. It's a joke. Thousands, probably even millions of very unhappy O2 iphone customers at the minute.

The thing I find most laughable in your above post is where you say "it carries the iphone so you can imagine it is quite beefed up"

lol - it should read "it carries the iphone, so dont expect to be able to use the data network when you need it most" I think that where other networks spend money on their coverage and capacity, O2 spent theirs on getting the iphone exclusive... bad move IMO.

As far as tethering goes, sure you can do it, but to do it with O2's consent will cost you (I cant remember if its £15 or £20) a month for the bolt on. There are ways around paying, but if O2 suspect you are doing it without paying, they will either charge you or cut you off. They dont like you doing it because their network is already far too overloaded

[autodrivel]

I'm surely going for an unbranded phone, and contemplating going completely SIM free but finding a decent low-minutes, high data access SIM-only deal seems to be a futile effort.

You might consider doing what I did.
Get a T-Mobile Mobile Broadband dongle and stick the SIM in your phone.
Suits me just fine - I rarely do more than 10 minutes of calls and a couple of dozen texts a per month.
But I need/use a LOT of data
So I took their Mobile-Broadband Max package @£15pm - calls cost 20p per min & texts are 10p each.
My monthly spend is about £18 for using the phone exactly how I want (little chat - lots of eMails/streaming/browsing/file transfer)
Also if I know I'm going to be doing extra data T-Mob will happily bump my account to a Max+ (=10GB data) for one month for £5 extra.

I'm using an unlocked e71 - and it tethers quite happily to my laptop & N810.
Should be a doddle to move to the N900

[Faz]

You might consider doing what I did.
Get a T-Mobile Mobile Broadband dongle and stick the SIM in your phone.
Suits me just fine - I rarely do more than 10 minutes of calls and a couple of dozen texts a per month.
But I need/use a LOT of data
So I took their Mobile-Broadband Max package @£15pm - calls cost 20p per min & texts are 10p each.
My monthly spend is about £18 for using the phone exactly how I want (little chat - lots of eMails/streaming/browsing/file transfer)
Also if I know I'm going to be doing extra data T-Mob will happily bump my account to a Max+ (=10GB data) for one month for £5 extra.

I'm using an unlocked e71 - and it tethers quite happily to my laptop & N810.
Should be a doddle to move to the N900

This sounds exactly like what I want! Thank you!! :)

I had no idea they provide a SIM with those dongles! :rolleyes:
I imagine I shouldn't have any problems transfering my Orange number either.

[Alex Atkin UK]

That reminds me - does the Maemo kernel support routing and does anyone know if the N900 can act as a WiFi access point?

If I can have the N900 AND carry an iPod around connected to it over WiFi, I could have the best of both worlds. I know you can do this on Windows Mobile albeit with commercial software. Linux however should be able to do it stock as long as the WiFi chipset driver supports the right mode.

Its not a deal breaker, but could be useful as you could then put the phone is the best place for reception and keep the laptop/ipod roaming, or share with several people at the same time.

[dansus]

This sounds exactly like what I want! Thank you!! :)

I had no idea they provide a SIM with those dongles! :rolleyes:
I imagine I shouldn't have any problems transfering my Orange number either.

You dont even need the dongle, any old sim will do.

3 are doing a sim only data deal, 5GB for £15 on 30 day contract. And you can use Skype over 3G. ;)

[autodrivel]

...I shouldn't have any problems transfering my Orange number either.

Hmmmm, I didn't try that - In theory it should be possible, but Mobile Broadband is marketed as a Data solution rather than a voice solution. So the admin systems may not be in place to handle porting a number from a voice network to a data network.

Happy to be proved wrong though:)

[pycage]

If I can have the N900 AND carry an iPod around connected to it over WiFi, I could have the best of both worlds. I know you can do this on Windows Mobile albeit with commercial software. Linux however should be able to do it stock as long as the WiFi chipset driver supports the right mode.


Linux can do it, no doubt about that. You might have to install the NAT module for iptables separately,
like it was on the N810, but it's all open source and you could even compile it yourself.
But I don't know if the iPod supports Ad-Hoc WiFi mode.

[DannStarr]

The iPod should support ad-hoc mode as I managed to connect my iPhone to my 5800 as a wifi hotspot. It wouldn't work straight away though, had to download a wifi finder from the app store

[equim]

3 also seem to offer an add-on to their pay as you go service where you pay £5 for a month of internet access.

http://www.three.co.uk/Pay_As_You_Go/Do_more_with_Add_ons

In their price guide they define that as 30 days with up to 2GB.

Since I rarely make phone calls on my mobile that sounds extremely good to me. In fact it's better than the equivalent contract which seems to give you 1GB / month.

It doesn't seem to say anywhere if / what restrictions apply (e.g. tethering), but I don't really need it for anything other than web browsing, mail, IM and, err, SSH to my home PC!

[eiffel]

3 also seem to offer an add-on to their pay as you go service where you pay £5 for a month of internet access
I tested that offer last year, with a 3 PAYG SIM in an unlocked phone, but it seems to only work if you bought the phone from 3. They sniff the browser string. If you spoof the browser string it goes through a proxy and you get served web pages tailored to the spoofed device. Or something like that, I can't remember exactly, but it didn't work satisfactorily.

On the other hand, I had no trouble getting full internet service using Orange and T-Mobile PAYG SIM Cards.

[allnameswereout]

But I don't know if the iPod supports Ad-Hoc WiFi mode.It does. I can use it with Joikuspot.

But this doesn't allow PSM...

We better get BlueTooth somehow working on iPod... ahem.. :rolleyes:

UK data plans should be outlined at http://wiki.maemo.org/Data_plans

I tested that offer last year, with a 3 PAYG SIM in an unlocked phone, but it seems to only work if you bought the phone from 3. They sniff the browser string. If you spoof the browser string it goes through a proxy and you get served web pages tailored to the spoofed device. Or something like that, I can't remember exactly, but it didn't work satisfactorily.Here my Vodafone NL was using a proxy too, by default. When I had used a browser over BlueTooth DUN I couldn't use my browser on my Nokia E71 anymore because it asked for a username and password. But you can bypass such nonsense by disabling the proxy, or using a VPN.

[Jason404]

If you get one on PAYG, how do you get the data connection? I do not understand how people can use smartphones with PAYG. What about A-GPS? Does that use network data bandwidth? I've never had a smartphone or GPS device, so I do not know.

[allnameswereout]

PAYG means prepaid. You pay in advance and then use till you get to 0 credit. This way, you never get surprised by fluctuating bills. And, sometimes its the only option. Like when you are visiting a country. Yes, A-GPS uses network data, but very little.

[Jason404]

PAYG means prepaid. You pay in advance and then use till you get to 0 credit. This way, you never get surprised by fluctuating bills. And, sometimes its the only option. Like when you are visiting a country. Yes, A-GPS uses network data, but very little.

I know what PAYG is, but I cannot see how it works with 3G data. I have used it in the past, and do not plan on using it with the N900, but I am confused about how data is charged for. On my network in the UK, Orange, data usage use seems to be a separate thing on the contracts, and no mention of it is made on the PAYG talk plans. Bear in my mind that I have never owned a smartphone, as they have never interested me before I saw the N900, which is more like a tiny computer. I would no longer have to take my ThinkPad ultracompact everywhere I go with this new Nokia.

[lma]

3 also seem to offer an add-on to their pay as you go service where you pay £5 for a month of internet access.


You also get a 150MB allowance (http://www.three.co.uk/Pay_As_You_Go/Free_mobile_internet) valid for 90 days when you buy £10 or more credit. So with reasonable usage patterns you can get 5 months of data out of a tenner :-)

I tested that offer last year, with a 3 PAYG SIM in an unlocked phone, but it seems to only work if you bought the phone from 3. They sniff the browser string.

Has been working fine for me (microb & tear) for the past 14 months or so.

[equim]

Thanks lma. I'm not quite sure how you got 5 months from 90 days though - or are you saying that after 3 months you'd use the £10 credit for 2 months? Isn't that charged at 30p / MB? That would give you less than 17 megs a month for those last 2 months - that sounds a bit low!

You also get the 150 MB with a £5 top-up (again, according to the price guide).

Have you tried the £5 for 2GB / 30 days add-on? I don't think 150 MB will last me a month but I'll try it out to start with.

Also, have you tried any non-web services like SSH? I'm a bit worried that they'd block other ports.

[lma]

I'm not quite sure how you got 5 months from 90 days though - or are you saying that after 3 months you'd use the £10 credit for 2 months?

Yes (more correctly it would last 150 days rather than 5 months), as 2 x this :

Have you tried the £5 for 2GB / 30 days add-on?

For my usage patterns (primarily email, jabber & ssh, with a bit of browsing on the side) the allowance is more than enough - I'm now on day 87 with more than 100MB remaining. YMMV, but even though you could for example download Fedora DVD ISOs with bittorrent I don't see the point ;-)

Also, have you tried any non-web services like SSH? I'm a bit worried that they'd block other ports.

Yes, SSH, IMAP, SMTP, XMPP, SIP (signalling, audio quality depends on the connection quality and is usually not that great) all work fine.

[eiffel]

I know what PAYG is, but ... I am confused about how data is charged for. On my network in the UK, Orange, data usage use seems to be a separate thing on the contracts, and no mention of it is made on the PAYG talk plans.

If your PAYG phone has a web browser, you just browse away and Orange will deduct £2 per day (more if you exceed 25 megabytes, less if you only download a trivial amount).

To reduce this cost, you can buy an "extra" which deducts an amount from your PAYG balance in advance. For £1 you get all-day access (25 megabytes maximum), or for £5 you get access for a week (25 MB per day maximum).

The details are here:
http://www1.orange.co.uk/service_plans/payasyougo/extra_internet.html

You can buy the bundle from the phone by voice (I seem to recall the number is 453 and you need to go through many levels of nested voice menus), or by the phone's browser from the Orange start-up page, or from the Orange website if you've registered your device and set up an account with their website.

The words to search for are "Orange World". Not an intuitive name for "Mobile Web Access" is it? I guess the name is a remnant of their attempt to set up a "walled garden" for their users.

Regards,
Roger

[eiffel]

Has been working fine for me (microb & tear) for the past 14 months or so.

On a non-3 phone? How did you bypass the proxy? On my LG KU990 the network settings received from 3 somehow disable the "Edit" button, whereas those from T-mobile and Orange didn't.

[lma]

On a non-3 phone?

Both on a 3-supplied S2 and an unlocked/unbranded E61.

How did you bypass the proxy? On my LG KU990 the network settings received from 3 somehow disable the "Edit" button, whereas those from T-mobile and Orange didn't.

I didn't do anything special, but I didn't receive settings from 3 either - just used the operator wizard on the tablet.

[dansus]

New UK MVNO starting this year, runs on O2 network, could be interesting.

http://www.giffgaff.com/

[Withnail]

well well well..

Mobile Phones Direct have just cancelled their Vodafone PAYG subsidy on the N900.

The price is now equal to 'SIM Free' at £449.99
http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Pay-As-You-Go/sc462/n443/p26078.aspx#tabsAnchor

I guess this is as close as we'll get to a confirmation that the PAYG pre-orders will be shipping without network lock to Vodafone UK

They've also changed availablility date to Saturday the 1st of November - Presumably they mean Saturday 31st of October!?
..unless they're talking about shipping in 2015 :eek: :p

[REMFwhoopitydo]

is this retroactive to those who have ordered the payg n900 at £393.00?

[Withnail]

is this retroactive to those who have ordered the payg n900 at £393.00?

Nope, I've already had order confirmation of £396.98 inc. delivery

[REMFwhoopitydo]

excellent, my Combi 15 + web-n-walk should be safe then.

[Gwiz]

How annoying

I sat down, got my card at the ready, and found out that mpd has raised the preorder price to £449 So congrats to everyone that ordered before today but

&@*%!!!

Well I guess us UK users should now go on a mission to find the cheapest Uk preorder deal. Who's with me? Please say you with me lol

By the way this is my first post on this forum. So "Hello & cheers for such a great site" I am a huge fan of the N900 and can't wait to get my hands on it but I'd like to pay a resonable price for the device like our American counterparts.

*Still in rant mode*

[allnameswereout]

How annoying

I sat down, got my card at the ready, and found out that mpd has raised the preorder price to £449 So congrats to everyone that ordered before today but Be sure to compare the packages. Some contain different accessories than others. For example the car kit is sometimes not included, saving about 50 EUR/GBP. I'm not saying this applies in your case; just general statement.

[pelago]

Welcome to the forum, Gwiz!

[eiffel]

How annoying

I sat down, got my card at the ready, and found out that mpd has raised the preorder price to £449
You can still do this at Mobilephonesdirect.co.uk:

The N900, pay monthly, T-mobile, Combi 15 deal is an 18 month contract including 100 minutes per month and 100 SMS texts per month. Cost is £140.99 plus 18 times £14.69, for a total of £409.40 including P&P. Of course you still need to pay for your data, but you would have needed to do that with the £393 PAYG deal anyway.

If you want to add Web'n'walk data, it's 18 months at £19.57 plus £112.99, for a total of £469.24 including P&P.

Contracts suck, but this seems to be one of the least sucky ones because you're getting the calls, text and data for only £1 per month over the PAYG price.

Regards,
Roger

[kamakazikev24]

Yeah I have noticed that there contract prices are slowly going up aswell :eek:
The HTC HD2 is even more!!

[danielwilson]

im going for the Your Plan £25 + Web vodafone upgrade

24 month contract 300
Minutes
per month Unlimited
Text
+
Unlimited mobile web
per month £29.39
Line rental
per month
was £30.00 3 months
Free insurance
+
2.5% VAT Off
Line Rental

nokia n900 £85

[tomraider]

Daniel,
What made you choose that one over the T-mobile, it'd be 18 months instead of 24 contract, and 29.99 phone.

[danielwilson]

u think that be better then just im with vodafone at the moment and my contract is due for upgrade for 16th of november and i think i would have to wait till jan to change network providers

[tomraider]

After 16th of November I guess you can go with either, the t-mob deals are all cheaper for the handset cost though and with a shorter contract time, you can switch to a great SIM only deal sooner.

[danielwilson]

are t-mob any good ?

[chrisp7]

Im on Tmobile (contract expired a few months ago but still on). Should I get off tmobile move to PAYG on another network then rejoin to get a better deal then?? Anyone know if they are offering upgrades on N900?

The Vodafone data is ridiculous - 500mb per month ('unlimited') pah.

[dansus]

are t-mob any good ?

Unlock you current phone and try a tmobile payg sim to test network and if its ok, get the tmobile deal. Its much cheaper.

[kamakazikev24]

So out of T Mobile and Vodafone, which one has the best 'unlimited' data???

My iphone 3G o2 sim is used for all sort of things in a windows mobile including hooking up to a laptop and I have never ever had a warning. So it may be better for me to buy an unlocked N900 and use this sim instead.

What do you think?

I should add that I use an o2 open code so pay about £23 a month for 600 mins 500 texts and then the unlimited data.

[chrisp7]

Tmobile - its cheaper and offers 1gb ('unlimited' cap) with the option of paying more for 3gb and 10gb levels. The 3g coverage is pretty good too.

In my eyes 500mb (Vodafone) is far far too low (especially if you stream/ tether from time to time;))

[danielwilson]

ye 500mb sucks im thinking of moving from vodafone to t-mobile but i want at least 200mins and at least 500 tex so anyone think i should go with tmobile instead of staying with vodafone

[danielwilson]

Combi 20 Unlimited Text

24 month contract 200
Minutes
per month Unlimited
Text
per month £19.57
Line rental
per month
was £20.00 3 months
Free insurance
+
2.5% VAT Off
Line Rental Price with
New Contract
£86.99
might do this one and just add internet after

[DannStarr]

Vodafone also offer you the chance to pay for more data, they give you options of 3 gb (which I'm currently on) and 5 gb

[danielwilson]

ye but its like £15 for 3gb and £25 for 5 gb

[chrisp7]

£15 for 3gb - thats insane!! How can Vodafone get away with that.
Tmobile/3 are my only option for Uk networks - the only reasonable data rates.

[danielwilson]

ye im changing to t mobile soon as the nokia n900 is out

[Martin Atkins]

Speaking of T-Mobile...

I've just been looking at the fine print for the Web'n'Walk (Now "Broadband"?)
deals, which are some of the ones offered by mobilephonesdirect.

Basic Web'n'Walk does not allow:
1) tethering (using phone as a modem) - no surprise here, but a shame!
2) peer-to-peer networking - ok if they mean the common usage of the term!!
3) Instant messaging - now there is no bandwidth justification for that!!
4) VoIP - again, no surprise here,
5) downloading of a small number of file types, including .pdf, .doc, .xml
require the "plus" or "max" accounts, not the basic one.

WHAT? is this no file downloading, or only these types are disallowed?
How can they tell, over, say scp?

Does syncing to my Google calendar count as peer-to-peer (which strictly,
in IP terms, it is), or not? What about the internet dictionary service, or
any number of similar, trivial, protocols that we use all the time
without thinking about them?

Does any one know if this is as bad as it looks, or is it just that their
legal people don't understand (or both :-( )?

Martin

[tomraider]

I had a t-mob web n walk a while ago, the only actual restrictions i felt were voip, and nimbuzz being blocked. Everything else seemed to work fine, they can't detect tethering etc.

If anyone can afford the upfront cost, the best network to be on is o2, but youd have to buy the n900 either sim free or cheap on t-mob. Then get o2 simplicity 12 months@20 a month, for 800 mins, 1600 texts and unlimited data. It is now really unlimited (no 1gb etc) so as long as you dont abuse it e.g. peer to peer it should be ok. They dont filter nimbuzz either. And you can get £100 off by going through quidco.

On balance i went with the t-mob combi 30+web though to have no upfront costs and not pay for two contracts. so slightly less minutes and 1gb data.

[Jason404]

I was hoping that Orange would have some decent contracts with the N900. I have been with Orange since 1997, and do not really want to change, but it looks like I will have to.

[chrisp7]

Speaking of T-Mobile...

I've just been looking at the fine print for the Web'n'Walk (Now "Broadband"?)
deals, which are some of the ones offered by mobilephonesdirect.

Basic Web'n'Walk does not allow:
1) tethering (using phone as a modem) - no surprise here, but a shame!
2) peer-to-peer networking - ok if they mean the common usage of the term!!
3) Instant messaging - now there is no bandwidth justification for that!!
4) VoIP - again, no surprise here,
5) downloading of a small number of file types, including .pdf, .doc, .xml
require the "plus" or "max" accounts, not the basic one.

WHAT? is this no file downloading, or only these types are disallowed?
How can they tell, over, say scp?

Does syncing to my Google calendar count as peer-to-peer (which strictly,
in IP terms, it is), or not? What about the internet dictionary service, or
any number of similar, trivial, protocols that we use all the time
without thinking about them?

Does any one know if this is as bad as it looks, or is it just that their
legal people don't understand (or both :-( )?

Martin

Ive been on the basic package for 2 years and I can happily say they cast a blind eye to tethering, VOIP, instant messaging, downloading listed files and streaming video/audio - as for p2p I havent tried yet.:) Just dont go over your 1gb limit. I synced to google calendar regularly (used a G1).

[REMFwhoopitydo]

http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/Nokia/Nseries-Multimedia-Phones/sb489/n447/p26078.aspx

mobile phones direct is now back to 30th of October, having previosly said Nov 1st.

[Alex Atkin UK]

http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/Nokia/Nseries-Multimedia-Phones/sb489/n447/p26078.aspx

mobile phones direct is now back to 30th of October, having previosly said Nov 1st.

I'm not sure it would make much difference which of those it would be anyway.

Do they mean it will be shipped BEFORE that date for delivery on that date, or will they be shipping on that date? Because if shipped on 30th there are no guarantees of a Saturday delivery so it still might not arrive until the 2nd Nov.

I don't see how the 1st would ever make sense however. Surely even a courier is not going to deliver on a Sunday and even if they did, surely that means you still would get it 3rd at the earliest?

That's still just over 3 weeks away regardless of which option so I can't see a day or two making all that much difference. We all will have gone insane long before then after waiting 3 more weeks. :eek: So lets just hope they get stock earlier than expected.

[equim]

I've just noticed a bug report saying that 3 sim cards are rejected by the N900...

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5315

That could scupper my plans :(

[slate8]

http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Brands/Nokia/Nseries-Multimedia-Phones/sb489/n447/p26078.aspx

mobile phones direct is now back to 30th of October, having previosly said Nov 1st.

And now it says "End of October"... I like this game! :)

[lma]

I've just noticed a bug report saying that 3 sim cards are rejected by the N900...

Note that they are treating it as critical though. I'm still hopeful, especially since 3 seem to be the only operator that doesn't forbid IM/VoIP and I really don't want to have to remember switching off presence every time before I connect...

[Kamikaze]

Ive been on the basic package for 2 years and I can happily say they cast a blind eye to tethering, VOIP, instant messaging, downloading listed files and streaming video/audio - as for p2p I havent tried yet.:) Just dont go over your 1gb limit. I synced to google calendar regularly (used a G1).

Chris are you based in the UK?

I had a t-mob web n walk a while ago, the only actual restrictions i felt were voip, and nimbuzz being blocked. Everything else seemed to work fine, they can't detect tethering etc.

Please can any UK T-Mobile users that have been on the web'n'walk package let us know their experiences with how strictly they enforce these ridiculous restrictions (posted on the previous page by Martin Atkins) on these policies.

Anyone who has found that VoIP is not allowed on their package, does this mean that you simply can't uses things like Skype or do you just pay extortionate data charges to use it?

Really gutted to read that exert from their small print (although glad someone noticed and posted it now!), if people are finding these rules are enforced I may have to cancel my pre-order and look for another option.

[jaark]

Anyone who has found that VoIP is not allowed on their package, does this mean that you simply can't uses things like Skype or do you just pay extortionate data charges to use it?

They have three tiers of Web'n'Walk package. The lowest tier does not permit* tethering or streamed media. The second allows streamed media and tethering but no VOIP applications, the third allows anything (including VOIP).

* The restrictions are in place in the Ts &Cs and form part of your contract. I have no idea what (if any) technical blocks or monitoring is in place to enforce it.

[Kamikaze]

Hi Jaark, thanks for your reply.

I had found this information on their "fair" usage policy: http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/services/uk/fairuse/

But it seems that all three of the mobile internet packes outlined there (Flext,
Combi & U-Fix) "do not permit use of this service to provide modem access for a computer or for peer to peer file sharing, internet phone calls or instant messaging."

Is this what you where referring to or was it something else? I remember hearing that they have higher max GB/month plans, is that what you were talking about?

[chrisp7]

Chris are you based in the UK?



Please can any UK T-Mobile users that have been on the web'n'walk package let us know their experiences with how strictly they enforce these ridiculous restrictions (posted on the previous page by Martin Atkins) on these policies.

Anyone who has found that VoIP is not allowed on their package, does this mean that you simply can't uses things like Skype or do you just pay extortionate data charges to use it?

Really gutted to read that exert from their small print (although glad someone noticed and posted it now!), if people are finding these rules are enforced I may have to cancel my pre-order and look for another option.

I am based in the UK, as I mentioned they cast a blind eye, and havent charged me extra for anything. If you do go over limits/take this piss Im sure they would do something (restrict speed etc) but I havent been subjected to this ever.

[dansus]

Hi Jaark, thanks for your reply.

I had found this information on their "fair" usage policy: http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/services/uk/fairuse/

But it seems that all three of the mobile internet packes outlined there (Flext,
Combi & U-Fix) "do not permit use of this service to provide modem access for a computer or for peer to peer file sharing, internet phone calls or instant messaging."

Is this what you where referring to or was it something else? I remember hearing that they have higher max GB/month plans, is that what you were talking about?

Flext, Combi & U-Fix can include basic webnwalk, you can upgrade or downgrade to Plus or Max on a monthly basis.

[jaark]

Flext, Combi & U-Fix can include basic webnwalk, you can upgrade or downgrade to Plus or Max on a monthly basis.

Yup, that's exactly what I was meaning. For clarification, WnW Plus allows streamed media, IM and tethering. WnW Max allows pretty much anything including VoIP. Plus and Max also have a higher 'fair use' threshold too.

I am based in the UK, as I mentioned they cast a blind eye, and havent charged me extra for anything. If you do go over limits/take this piss Im sure they would do something (restrict speed etc) but I havent been subjected to this ever.

I'm pretty sure they say that if you go over the fair use threshold, they will restrict your speed for the rest of the month - again, this is based on what they say in their Ts&Cs - I'm not aware of anyone who has been subjected to the limits.

At the end of the day, WnW Plus does everything I need & is only just over a tenner a month extra on my contract - worth the money IMO.

[deadmalc]

FYI, I spoke to someone at T-Mobile about the speed restriction.
This theoretically applies, but apparently there is no way of doing this on phones - it is done apparently on the usb dongle thingi's.

He also said if you go over significantly they will alert you, and I assume things will escalate from there.
But if you are using it that much you should be on their top tier anyway. It seems like it is real "fair use" which is why I opted for it over the other providers.

[jaark]

FYI, I spoke to someone at T-Mobile about the speed restriction.
This theoretically applies, but apparently there is no way of doing this on phones - it is done apparently on the usb dongle thingi's.

That makes no sense - the technology and network in use is/should be pretty much identical.
I've learned to take what T-Mo CS reps state with a pinch of salt. I had problems connecting to the data service when I joined and the CS rep I spoke to insisted that 3G did not carry data, only GPRS did that.

But if you are using it that much you should be on their top tier anyway. It seems like it is real "fair use" which is why I opted for it over the other providers.

Yup, from what I can see it is head and shoulders above everyone else's offerings, except - maybe - Three, but their website is so vague about what they provide I can't tell.

[DannStarr]

Has anyone else noticed that on mobile phones direct they have changed the price of the vodafone payg from £392 all the way up to £450 - the same as what they sell the sim free version for :(

[autodrivel]

Has anyone else noticed that on mobile phones direct they have changed the price of the vodafone payg from £392 all the way up to £450 - the same as what they sell the sim free version for :(
Yeah, but if you preordered at the lower price, they will honor that price

[dwould]

I went into a vodafone shop this morning. they had no information on N900 at all. so presumably won't be selling direct any time soon.

I also asked about monthly contracts with unlimited web. They were happy to show me some options any of which they said
'add £5 for unlimited web'

this is how the conversation went

'so how limited is you unlimited?'

'erm, there is a 500MB fair usage policy'

'what happens after that'

he consulted with someone else

'after 500mb it's £2.50 per MB, but it's fine because ona mobile it's all compressed so you won't use that much data'

'yes I will, I'd be putting it in an N900'

'what and using it as a modem?'

'No, the n900 is closer to a mobile computer than a phone, i'll blow througha few hundred MB in podcasts alone. don't you have any other plans with larger data deals?'

'no'

'fine, that rules you out then, thanks anyway'

I get that not everyone needs even 500mb but I object to 'unlimited' being actually specific hard limit after which they'll charge you insane amounts per MB
if they'd said we'll give you a warning, or we'll push you on to some other more expensive contract aimed at hgher users, then I might have considered them. but basically if I have a heavy month on 3g and download a podcast over my limit I could be looking at £100 extra bill easy.

no thanks vodafone, thanks for playing.

[Faz]

IMHO, the term Unlimited is used in not just misleading but false ways by mobile operators.

Is it really so difficult to simply quote the allowance for each tariff and bundle?

[danielwilson]

ye i thinking more to t mobile with there £10 month with 3gb date a month or there £5 month for 1 gb

[edgedemon]

This thread has got me all confused again as to the best way to go :confused:
I was planning on ordering the n900 direct from nokia using the 15% off as I dont need a SIM, Im on Orange and its paid for by work :D
This would mean shelling out £420 upfront, I can do it, but Im not sure its the best way now after looking at the mobiles direct site..

They have a 12 month contract for the n900 (combi 30) which costs £29.36 a month and an initial outlay of £78 which comes to a total of £430.32, which is £10 more than buying the device outright.

Im thinking, take this contract, ditch the SIM, use my orange SIM, and then in a year I can upgrade for a much cheaper price to the n950 :D

If I buy the phone direct from nokia, I will face having to pay another £450 to upgrade to whatever is the next must have phone in a year to 18 months time

I am presuming that the phone wont be locked to a network, but even if it is, there will be a hack to change that :D

Am I thinking right here? Can I have a reality check..

[eiffel]

...They have a 12 month contract for the n900 (combi 30) which costs £29.36 a month and an initial outlay of £78 which comes to a total of £430.32, which is £10 more than buying the device outright.

Im thinking, take this contract, ditch the SIM, use my orange SIM, and then in a year I can upgrade for a much cheaper price to the n950 :D...

Am I thinking right here? Can I have a reality check..
I think you're thinking right. The T-mobile contract deals at mobilephonesdirect do seem to be pretty good.

But if you are prepared to go to 18 months you can do better with the Combi 15 contract. £14.69 per month times 18, plus £140.99, giving a total of £405.41.

(For those who are actually going to be using the SIM card but don't do much talking, the best deal may be Combi 15 + Web'n'walk for £19.57 times 18, plus £112.99, equals £465.25)

Also, you need to add delivery charges (£3.99 I think) whereas with the Nokia Special Offer there's free delivery until 21 November.

Regards,
Roger

[edgedemon]

Thanks for that - you are right, there are some pretty impressive deals at the moment.
The only catch would be if the phone was locked to a different network, but at that price it wouldn't be the end of the world if the only way to unlock it would be to pay..

[ewan]

'erm, there is a 500MB fair usage policy'
'what happens after that'
he consulted with someone else
'after 500mb it's £2.50 per MB, but it's fine because ona mobile it's all compressed so you won't use that much data'

This is not what I've been told by the Vodafone 'eForum' folks, who are usually a lot more reliable than the shop drones when it comes to details of data plans. In short, according to them it's 500Mb FUP, but they'll send warnings as you get close, and you won't get charged unless you go over by a lot, or as a matter of routine. In other words, 500Mb is a guideline, but don't take the mickey.

'yes I will, I'd be putting it in an N900'
'what and using it as a modem?'
'No, the n900 is closer to a mobile computer than a phone, i'll blow througha few hundred MB in podcasts alone.
don't you have any other plans with larger data deals?'
'no'

And that's just plain wrong. Vodafone also do deals at 3Gb for £15 and 5Gb for £25 (on top of a voice contract) that they call 'Mobile Broadband via the Phone' - the idea is that they're similar deals as on the broadband dongles, but for people that want to use the phone as a modem, but really, they're just higher usage limits. I've asked my local shop people about them and they simply told me that they didn't deal with those, didn't know anything about them, and I'd have to go to the website people.

[dansus]

15% off devices and accessories in Europe via twitter discount. Valid till 21st Oct.

http://europe.nokia.com/microsites/discount-twitter


Select your store location
Write down the discount code for your country and use it when you check out.

* UK SOCUK15

* Germany NOS09TW

* France SOC15

* Italy TWTR01

* Sweden OKT15T

* Netherlands SOC15/1009

* Poland SAVE15TW

* Spain DTINK

[dansus]

That makes the N900 £424.15.

:)

[chrisp7]

And that's just plain wrong. Vodafone also do deals at 3Gb for £15 and 5Gb for £25 (on top of a voice contract) that they call 'Mobile Broadband via the Phone' - the idea is that they're similar deals as on the broadband dongles, but for people that want to use the phone as a modem, but really, they're just higher usage limits. I've asked my local shop people about them and they simply told me that they didn't deal with those, didn't know anything about them, and I'd have to go to the website people.

Thats insanely expensive.

[edgedemon]

That makes the N900 £424.15.

:)

I liked this, but will go will T-mobile as it is £430 for a year and then I can upgrade in 12 months to the n950 or whatever is the 5 generation model..

:D

[dwould]

thanks dansus! I've e-mailed nokia to see if I can apply this code to my pre-order or whether I have to caancel and re-order

[406NotAcceptable]

I've ordered mine on the 12 month contract, I hate being tied to anything longer than a year (as you know the next device always comes out 1 year later!)

For anyone worried about T-Mobiles data plans, there's no need to be! I currently have been using a G1 with the standard Webnwalk package, I rarely am under the limits. I frequently used Wifi tether for a few months; for internet use and the odd Trackmania session, once I had 3 people playing World of Warcraft using my phone as a wireless router. I have also used my sim in a 3G Modem. I download new firmware updates (90mb at a time,) and many other files. Seriously from my experience T-Mobile would only care if you tethered to a PC and started downloading movies.

[dwould]

I'd go t-mobile in a heartbeat if I got signal with them. As it is I think o2 is my best bet.

[Faz]

(For those who are actually going to be using the SIM card but don't do much talking, the best deal may be Combi 15 + Web'n'walk for £19.57 times 18, plus £112.99, equals £465.25)

Also, you need to add delivery charges (£3.99 I think) whereas with the Nokia Special Offer there's free delivery until 21 November.

Regards,
Roger
This looks like the deal for me!! :)

Comparing the total cost over 18 months, mobilephonesdirect.co.uk @ £465.25, against Nokia direct @ £424.15 (including the current 15% discount), you're effectively receiving a 1GB soft-limit data plan, plus 100 minutes & 100 texts, for just £2.28 extra per month!!

Sounds like the perfect N900 deal for me! :D

Also, regarding their fair use policy, from their Pay Monthly Terms & Conditions (http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/terms-and-conditions/pay-monthly-deals/):
This option comes with a fair use policy of 1GB a month. We'll monitor how much you send and receive each calendar month so that we can protect our network for all our customers. If you use more than your fair use policy amount, we won't charge you any more, but we may restrict how you can use your plan, depending on how often you go over your amount and by how much.

[danielwilson]

This looks like the deal for me!! :)

Comparing the total cost over 18 months, mobilephonesdirect.co.uk @ £465.25, against Nokia direct @ £424.15 (including the current 15% discount), you're effectively receiving a 1GB soft-limit data plan, plus 100 minutes & 100 texts, for just £2.28 extra per month!!

Sounds like the perfect N900 deal for me! :D

Also, regarding their fair use policy, from their Pay Monthly Terms & Conditions (http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/terms-and-conditions/pay-monthly-deals/):

not many minutes or texes im going for the 300 300 ones

[406NotAcceptable]

This option comes with a fair use policy of 1GB a month. We'll monitor how much you send and receive each calendar month so that we can protect our network for all our customers. If you use more than your fair use policy amount, we won't charge you any more, but we may restrict how you can use your plan, depending on how often you go over your amount and by how much.


From my experience T-Mobile are like the better 'unlimited broadband' offers where you either have to be going over 1GB for a few months in a row, or use an obsene amount in one month (e.g 3GB.)

[ewan]

Thats insanely expensive.

Really? Other than t-mobile (same prices, double the FUP limit) it seems to be fairly competitive; I certainly haven't seen anything comparable from the like of O2.

If you're getting an N900, how are you getting it online?

[vdx29]

I once used over 7GB on an O2 simplicity montly contract. No that's not a typo. 7GB. I was moving houses and had to tether my mobile while my ISP took their sweet time installing the connection in the new place.

I didn't get charged anything extra. Although I did get warning texts from them by the end of the month. This was a 1 time thing but I normally end up going over the 250MB fair use policy per month anyway.

[ae0n]

I normally end up going over the 500MB fair use policy per month anyway.

Is O2 Simplicity's fair usage limit set to 500mb? I've heard elsewhere it was 250mb. Then again, I can't seem to find an actual figure in the T&C on their site.

I'm kinda torn over which network to go with based on each of their internet data services. :confused:

[Duffer]

I often go over 250MB and have not heard from O2

[vdx29]

Is O2 Simplicity's fair usage limit set to 500mb? I've heard elsewhere it was 250mb.

Sorry. That WAS a typo :o . It is 250MB. Or was last I checked. It was 250MB when I started and this was mentioned in their T&C then. Which again is quite astounding as I go way over this every month.

[hass]

Right guys, be gentle, a newbie here but i'm going to throw a big spanner into the works here in terms of how to get a sim free N900 direct from Nokia for the princely sum of: £310.61 (also works for anyother Nokia phones but as this a N900 thread)

You have until the 21st October for this to work.

first go to http://www.topcashback.co.uk/ and create an account, they're a bit like quidco but no fees, bascically they have agreements in place with merchants where a % of your purchase is passed on to you in the form of cashback, this is usually paid 2-3 months after your purchase has been verified and will go either into your bank account or paypal depending on what you've entered as your preferred payment option.

Ok, once logged in and signed up, click on search in the merchants and you will see Nokia, it show's 10% off, if you're signed in and click the visit merchant button you will then open a new window that will take you to the Nokia UK website, add the N900 (or whichever phone you wish to purchase in the cart and checkout).

Once you have checked out you will see that the sum being asked for is £499 inc free delivery.

Ok, scroll to the "Enter Promotion Discount" box and enter: AFFUK15

This will reduce £74.85 off the phone should now come up at a rate of £424.15

Again go to the "Enter Promotion Discount" box and enter: SOCUK15

This will reduce £63.62 off the phone should now come up at a rate of £360.53.

Please note that topcashback on the discount codes & deals tab of the nokia retail page says:
You can use both codes AFFUK15 and SOCUK15 at the same time.

I have just tried it now and it does work!

Ok so the phone is now down to £360.51 which is pretty damn good, well because you used Topcashback you will get 10% off the price, no not the final price with all the discounts but in fact the starting price which is £499 so you will get cash in your account or paypal for another £49.90 meaning your N900 will have cost you £310.61.

I believe the Soc Media discount code is going to expire on the 21st of October.

I have received confirmation of my order from Nokia by Email and Topcashback has also tracked my order.

Hope this helps some of you.

Any questions, give me a shout.

Hass

[Gadgetoid]

Wow. Order placed in a hurry so wrought with excitement that I failed to enter my credit card number correctly several times consecutively.

Here's hoping they don't cancel the order/deny cash back.

[jjx]

Nice. I cancelled my preorder which was using the SOCUK15 code alone, and followed your instructions.

It's not showing in topcashback yet, and if it doesn't show up in a few days, it'll be too late to place the order again with those promo codes.

But even if topcashback doesn't work out, the saving from the two promo codes is better than one :-D Thanks Hass.

[eiffel]

... how to get a sim free N900 direct from Nokia for the princely sum of: £310.61 ...
Hass man, you are a genius! And thank you for setting out all the steps so carefully. This pricing was the "tipping point" for me, and I've just placed my order.

But, you missed one little thing! If people create their TopCashBack account by following this link:
http://www.topcashback.co.uk/ref/eiffel
then I get a £2.50 bonus when they make their purchase.

(Naturally, hass, you are the one who deserves the bonus, so if you post your affiliate link then I am happy to edit this post to remove mine. In the meantime, anyone who orders an N900 this way, please use the link above to sign up.)

Once again, thanks hass. I've got my fingers crossed that the cashback will come through, but even if it doesn't it's still a good price.

Regards,
Roger

[ edit: Hass is happy for people to use either link. Here's his: http://www.topcashback.co.uk/ref/hass80 ]

[pelago]

Although http://www.topcashback.co.uk/Nokia/discountcodes says you can use both AFFUK15 and SOCUK15 at the same time, I wonder if that's really true, or whether Nokia might cancel the orders. It seems too good to be true.

[eiffel]

Although http://www.topcashback.co.uk/Nokia/discountcodes says you can use both AFFUK15 and SOCUK15 ... It seems too good to be true.
Nokia's website is designed to allow more than one discount code to be entered against a purchase, so they obviously intend multiple discount codes to be supported.

Regards,
Roger

[hass]

Hass man, you are a genius! And thank you for setting out all the steps so carefully. This pricing was the "tipping point" for me, and I've just placed my order.

But, you missed one little thing! If people create their TopCashBack account by following this link:
http://www.topcashback.co.uk/ref/eiffel
then I get a £2.50 bonus when they make their purchase.

(Naturally, hass, you are the one who deserves the bonus, so if you post your affiliate link then I am happy to edit this post to remove mine. In the meantime, anyone who orders an N900 this way, please use the link above to sign up.)

Once again, thanks hass. I've got my fingers crossed that the cashback will come through, but even if it doesn't it's still a good price.

Regards,
Roger

Hello Roger,

I wasn't aware of the affiliate scheme so missed that, my referral link is: http://www.topcashback.co.uk/ref/hass80

I'm more than happy for people to use either your referral scheme or mine.

Guys the tracking worked 12hrs later, I logged into my topcashback page this morning and clear as daylight it is tracking at £49.90.

I also have email confirmation from Nokia as the purchase price of £360.51

Obviously I cannot guarantee that Nokia won't honour the deal but the deal is working as it stands with 2 days to go

[debian]

Although http://www.topcashback.co.uk/Nokia/discountcodes says you can use both AFFUK15 and SOCUK15 at the same time, I wonder if that's really true, or whether Nokia might cancel the orders. It seems too good to be true.

Indeed, I pre ordered and paid 360 quid. :)

[njoughin]

Awesome, i ordered also, and cancelled my other pre order from a few weeks ago, who cares if i get it a few weeks after others at this price

[Vodrin]

I went ahead and ordered too cancelling my mobilephonesdirect order. Now I can keep my staff sim-only package. Only downside being a much harsher 1gb cap but something easily outweighed by not being in contract and not having to mess around porting in. Thanks a lot Haas!

[hass]

Guys, I also have received today the following code from Nokia for 15% off accessories. i hope you can take advantage of 3 discount codes?
MYNOKUK15.

[debian]

Guys, I also have received today the following code from Nokia for 15% off accessories. i hope you can take advantage of 3 discount codes?
MYNOKUK15.

I'm happy with that, thanks anyway

[noelsolutions]

Just put in my order, thanks guys for sharing this on the forum. Usually just read post on the forums here but this saving warranted a sign up and post

My order came out at £370.52 with express delivery :-)
Not appeared in the top cash back part as of yet think that could take a few days. Really hope Nokia deliver this one as the sale should stand but you never no with this online retailers they could withdraw it :-)

[Gadgetoid]

I tried adding MYNOKUK15 to a cart, and it brings the price down to £306.45

I think Nokia have a very, very broken shopping cart and will probably not honour this wanton exploitation. There's no harm in trying, though.

Edit: £49.90 is now showing as pending in my TopCashBack account.

[noelsolutions]

yeah i can't see that one going through. It's almost how low can you go. A friend needs an old E71 and is going to try the promo codes tonight. They will know within the next few days if it goes through or not. Fingers crossed.

The UK store is giving me errors at the moment when trying to use checkout. Administrators are away it says.

[vdx29]

It really does sound a bit ridiculous. But thanks for the tips!

I did the whole shebang. Have just preordered it. Went through Topcashback, applied all 3 promo codes. Current order with nokia stands at £306.45.

Nothing shown up in Topcashback yet. Here's to hoping it works out to £256.46!:eek:

Edit: Ok, Topcashback now showing £49.90 pending for me as well.

[Vodrin]

It really does sound a bit ridiculous. But thanks for the tips!

I did the whole shebang. Have just preordered it. Went through Topcashback, applied all 3 promo codes. Current order with nokia stands at £306.45.

Nothing shown up in Topcashback yet. Here's to hoping it works out to £256.46!:eek:Makes you feel a bit dirty doesn't it ;). Heres to hoping it works.

[edgedemon]

Is tomorrow the last day for this order or will I still be able to use the vouchers on the 21st? Im waiting for a refund from MPD and they are claiming up to 5 days for my account to show, so its a race against time for me :mad:

Gutted

[Gadgetoid]

I'm tempted to try cancelling my order and re-ordering with all three discounts. I'm trying it on with two and a cash back, so I'm not convinced it's any less likely to be accepted.

On the other hand, they might let a double-discount slide, and pick up on a triple one. Oh the decisions!

[hass]

I would suggest that if you're going to use the accessory voucher which I listed in the last page then at least purchase an accessory, that way you cannot fall foul of Nokia. And besides, with such a power hungry phone and the discount you're getting, surely you guys all need another battery? ;-)

[hass]

Edgedemon, no money was taken from my account by Nokia, my email confirmation states that they only take payment once the item is ready for shipping. I read the social media discount expires on the 21st, so I assume that means the 21st is the last day to use it. I think.

[Faz]

I would suggest that if you're going to use the accessory voucher which I listed in the last page then at least purchase an accessory, that way you cannot fall foul of Nokia. And besides, with such a power hungry phone and the discount you're getting, surely you guys all need another battery? ;-)

Uh-oh, I didn't read this through properly, what with all this excitement!!!!! I really hope they don't reject my order based on that - I'll gladly buy a battery! :(

I have already ordered via TopCashBack, using all 3 codes, plus express delivery, totalling £316.44.

Either way, thank you very much indeed for sharing this with us Hass!! :)

[chrisp7]

argh, Im not sure what to do! Im pretty sure Nokia wont sell the phone for £256 - but what to go for - the x2 code and topcashback - that seems a pretty safe bet doesnt it??

[matikjn]

This really seems too good to be true. The invoice doesn't mention anything about accessories with the mynokia15 code, and I would think they would not let you check out if it was not permitted.

Still waiting for the cashback, fingers crossed I get it for £256! Thanks Hass

[Kamikaze]

Cheers for the tip Hass, much appreciated.

Here's hoping to dozy dispatch clerks :p

[Duffer]

Has anybody ordered anything using the mulitple Nokia discount codes and had it delivered yet? Accessory on express delivery for example?

[impatient]

Hi everybody,
I registered especially just to say this so be grateful.
I have applied the three codes on the nokia shop and pre ordered my N900, with the price of £306.45. I didn't use topcashback as I am too lazy.
I then emailed Nokia customer care regarding the codes and their validity. I recieved the following response.

Thank you for contacting Nokia Care. We appreciate you choosing Nokia as your preferred device.

I hope everything is well. With regards to your email about the discount code and the expiration of this. We have checked this and rest assured that even though the Nokia N900 will be shipped after the said expiration date, the discount will still apply. Rest assured that you will only pay £ 306.45 when we ship the phone. Thank you.

Please don't hesitate to contact us again if you have any further questions.


I will leave off the name of the guy who gave this response just in case he gets shot for this.

[SpeedEvil]

To drag this back onto topic, you can also get discounts on your phone tarrif.
_only_ if you don't screw up - and they make it easy to screw up.

http://www.onecompare.com/ - compare a mobile phone - say you want a cheap one - I picked a nokia 1280 IIRC.

They then mail you (or maybe credit your account) the cashback over time.

For example, you can get 700 minutes, and lots of texts/month, and 1G/month, for about 35 quid a month direct debit - but with 100% cashback.

So - you can connect your new shiny n900 for free.

Why they do this, I don't know. But they do.

[chrisp7]

Just ordered using all 3 codes and topcashback. Beautiful!:)

Can you join a network with no phone purchased through them?? Perhaps in this case, pay as you go is the best option??

[noelsolutions]

thanks impatient,

Just put through my order with an extra battery but all three codes.
£331.79 I am happy with that.

contacted them and they cancelled my other order.

[CrashandDie]

Would it be possible to bring this topic back to the initial subject, or create a more appropriate subject?

I doubt people who are interested in finding the best options for networking their n900 are interested in reading 10 pages worth of "codes" and "I bought mine for £xxx.xx".

Thanks

[danielwilson]

Thats what im doing ither with mobiles.co.uk or phonesdirect mobiles also do like 11 months half price line rental

[theinternet]

Hey thats awesome man! I wish I was a UK resident so i could take advantage of it though :'( Does anyone know if there is a "TopCashBack" equivelant in the USA with a nokia discount?

[dansus]

Hi everybody,

I then emailed Nokia customer care regarding the codes and their validity. I recieved the following response.

Thank you for contacting Nokia Care. We appreciate you choosing Nokia as your preferred device.

I hope everything is well. With regards to your email about the discount code and the expiration of this. We have checked this and rest assured that even though the Nokia N900 will be shipped after the said expiration date, the discount will still apply. Rest assured that you will only pay £ 306.45 when we ship the phone. Thank you.

.

I think your email broke it, not working for me. :(

[chrisp7]

multiple codes have been stopped apparently.. Lets see if ours stick.

[chrisp7]

Would it be possible to bring this topic back to the initial subject, or create a more appropriate subject?

I doubt people who are interested in finding the best options for networking their n900 are interested in reading 10 pages worth of "codes" and "I bought mine for £xxx.xx".

Thanks

If the release date is indeed end of October why are the networks being silent? Tmobile have repeatedly told me they have no idea when or if it will be released (and mentioned by that prerogative it wont be out for 3/4weeks on Tmob).

Any insiders know anything from Voda/Tmob??

[mikec]

Just tried this at 6:30 uk time, and the codes no longer work

Mike C

[Kamikaze]

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6715/inb4gunzse9.gif

:D

[edgedemon]

Just tried this at 6:30 uk time, and the codes no longer work

Mike C

+1 not working here either..

:mad::eek:

edit - looks like its back to t-mobile and sign up for a contract
gutted :mad:

[dansus]

Lesson learned here..

If you find a loop hole, dont email the company and expose it!!!

Muppets.

[fahad65]

i was about to order two for mine but the codes are not working F**k F**k wtf when our turn comes nokia F**ked the discount codes F**k off NOKIA
it isnt fair....

[kamakazikev24]

when I tried it two codes worked one did not.

[fahad65]

when I tried it two codes worked one did not.
when did u tried

[chrisp7]

Lesson learned here..

If you find a loop hole, dont email the company and expose it!!!

Muppets.

Well, its ok for those that did...unless they cancel them. ****

[edgedemon]

Lesson learned here..

If you find a loop hole, dont email the company and expose it!!!

Muppets.

+1
ruined it for everyone else - the 15% off still works, but £424 is still to much, so a contract looks the way to go, and then find a way to unlock it...

[krk969]

just tried the only discount code that worked

SOCUK15

and ordered one for 424 GBP assuming I can cancel it later if Nokia decides to stay quiet on the release date even after the end of this month ;)

Just to check again, I tried using the discount code again and it didnt work.
So I guess I was the last one to get it or one of the last.

do you guys really think Nokia would honour this price , or would they contact us again before shipping it to let us know they cant give the discount ;)

Thank you all for sharing this info in this forum.
424 GBP is not a bad price after all for this unlocked phone.

[kamakazikev24]

Yesterday about 3:30. They must have been in the process of removing them. Tried this morning and the UK Nokia site says the N900 is unavailable to order, even with no codes.What a muppet emailing them! DOH!

[shadow12]

It is a shame that the offer went but it was inevitable. Whether the email to Nokia triggered it or not is just conjecture. I think the sudden spike of people buying N900 using codes may have peeked Nokias interest. That being said I think they will honor the price of those who already bought otherwise they wouldn't have tried so swiftly to remove the code bug and simply have stated at a later date that using multiple codes is a violation.

Anyhow for those who don't have a contract the mobilephonesdirect deal is pretty sweet since the phone is already unlocked supposedly (confirmed earlier in the thread and also by a convo I had with them). With the 34.26 a month deal with t-mobile it comes out at 616.68 pounds. With all the Nokia codes the best price for the N900 was 255 pounds. So you have 361.68 left for a contract. The t-mobile solo with unlimited internet is 20 pounds a month that comes to 360 pounds over an 18 month period. So all in all you pay an extra 1.68 pounds p.a for a contract which offer you an extra 100 mins a month. Plus you don't pay for handset upfront. Of course you are tied in for 18 months but nothing is ever free. Obviously for those in contract this is no good but for people without it should be fine.

[shadow12]

Yesterday about 3:30. They must have been in the process of removing them. Tried this morning and the UK Nokia site says the N900 is unavailable to order, even with no codes.What a muppet emailing them! DOH!

Dude I seem to be able to order it. Fair enough none of the codes work.

[kamakazikev24]

must have got rid of the codes an brought it back online then. You can still get the 10% cashback though?

[impatient]

Sorry chaps and chappets if I alerted them.

We all knew it was too good to be true, so it would have happened eventually.

I hope that the few lucky ones who got there orders in at that price have them honoured.

I suspect though with it being on several websites and confirmed by Nokia, the number of orders would have been overwhelming.

Actually just did a quick search, it was on nokiausers.net, my-symbian, hotukdeals, AVForums, overclockers.co.uk. So I think they would have to be blind to miss the hundreds of orders and of course it would have run out today anyways.

[shadow12]

must have got rid of the codes an brought it back online then. You can still get the 10% cashback though?

Yea I believe you can still get the 10% cashback. Also if you get a contract from MPD through topcashback you get 30 pounds. not great but still better than nothing.

[pwannell]

I must admit I'm picking up my n900 for £379, i thought it was quite a bargain. It's already tracking nicely on quidco too. You guys think it was a good deal?

[krk969]

just tried the only discount code that worked

SOCUK15

and ordered one for 424 GBP assuming I can cancel it later if Nokia decides to stay quiet on the release date even after the end of this month ;)

Just to check again, I tried using the discount code again and it didnt work.
So I guess I was the last one to get it or one of the last.

do you guys really think Nokia would honour this price , or would they contact us again before shipping it to let us know they cant give the discount ;)

Thank you all for sharing this info in this forum.
424 GBP is not a bad price after all for this unlocked phone.


dont know if its some random date.
I got a mail about my order and it stated


"Order Date: 21-10-2009

Anticipated Ship Date: 3 to 4 weeks

Backordered Item: Qty Prod. Description

1 Nokia N900 "

do any of you have similar dates in your order from nokia uk ?

[TomJ]

dont know if its some random date.
I got a mail about my order and it stated


"Order Date: 21-10-2009

Anticipated Ship Date: 3 to 4 weeks

Backordered Item: Qty Prod. Description

1 Nokia N900 "

do any of you have similar dates in your order from nokia uk ?

More or less identical.

[shadow12]

I must admit I'm picking up my n900 for £379, i thought it was quite a bargain. It's already tracking nicely on quidco too. You guys think it was a good deal?

Dude that is still a good deal. What exactly did you do? I know quidco do 10% on Nokia as well.

[fnordianslip]

3 to 4 weeks is what it said when I ordered mine on 3rd September.

[krk969]

3 to 4 weeks is what it said when I ordered mine on 3rd September.

I should have known :p
But thanks for letting me know.

[impatient]

I got the same on my order, either thats when our pre-order will be fulfilled or more likely just what they always put. I have read before that 3-4 weeks was stated on the email.
I think despite all the rumours on when these will appear we can be fairly certain it will arrive in the next 3 weeks, Possibly as early as the end of this week. We have been told for a long time by Nokia that in some markets it will start to ship in October. I know also from historic reports on phone releases that Nokia Shop UK definitely does get the phones on their first release and usually fulfils all the orders on the day of release. I haven't heard of people historically talking about being in particular batches of phones for Nokia shop while you do get such conversations on the release of a product from expansys, I suspect that Nokia can tailor the production to meet the known orders at their store. Anyway thats my hope!
I went for free delivery so I will know when it gets in the post several days before it arrives unlike those unlucky souls who get little time to prepare for the arrival of their new device!
I am betting that it will appear at my door second week of November.

[shadow12]

Sorry to drag off topic but cant PM yet. fnordianslip I see you have a sheevaplug in among your relics. What do you think of it?

[pwannell]

Dude that is still a good deal. What exactly did you do? I know quidco do 10% on Nokia as well.

Well track the order on Qudico = 10% + code AFFuk15 = 15% total 25% Off!!! that works out to £124 off the price of the phone so i'm a pretty happy bunny. Now apparently they N900's have started shipping too.

[Peter@Maemo Marketing]

I've just noticed a bug report saying that 3 sim cards are rejected by the N900...

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5315

That could scupper my plans :(

There are a limited number of new Hutchinson 3G SIM cards that require a specific technical SIM card support in the mobile device. Nokia N900 has not originally been designed to support this operator requirement. As soon as we found out about this requirement, we started to work on the solution. A software update for the Nokia N900, estimated to be available by the end of this year, will fix this issue.

[gwiz27]

Now apparently they N900's have started shipping too.

Can someone please tell me why people on here insist on posting bs.

The above posters has no evidence to support his "claim" but yet he's willing to speculate :mad:

Knowing full well we are all waiting uncomfortably for this device!

[shadow12]

Well track the order on Qudico = 10% + code AFFuk15 = 15% total 25% Off!!! that works out to £124 off the price of the phone so i'm a pretty happy bunny. Now apparently they N900's have started shipping too.

The AFFUK15 does not work for me either from quidco or topcashback. Saying that SOCUK15 works from both. Also spotted this on quidco: "The voucher code offered excludes pre-order phones." Dont know if this a recent addition or has always been there.

Tried the MYNOKUK15 code too. That works but you cant use more than one code at any one time. It seems the best you will get is 15% off plus 10% cashback from quidco or topcashback. Looks like they plugged the bug.

[pwannell]

Can someone please tell me why people on here insist on posting bs.

The above posters has no evidence to support his "claim" but yet he's willing to speculate :mad:

Knowing full well we are all waiting uncomfortably for this device!

There are reports on this website that the N900's were shipping in Glasgow to people with pre orders. Sorry to re itterate that...

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=353134&postcount=108

[noelsolutions]

So glad I did my order straight after I cancelled the first one.
They said leave 24 hours before doing the order again, I thought no way Nokia were up to something.

N900 + Extra Battery
Sub Total: £524.00
Discount: £202.20
Delivery Cost:
Express (1-3 days) £9.99
Total: £331.79 (This order includes £43.28 VAT)

sweet deal :-) I keep checking on the order status to check it still there. Still find it hard to believe £200+ discount on a brand new phone. I now get to keep my great old flext account with discount.

[pwannell]

So glad I did my order straight after I cancelled the first one.
They said leave 24 hours before doing the order again, I thought no way Nokia were up to something.

N900 + Extra Battery
Sub Total: £524.00
Discount: £202.20
Delivery Cost:
Express (1-3 days) £9.99
Total: £331.79 (This order includes £43.28 VAT)

sweet deal :-) I keep checking on the order status to check it still there. Still find it hard to believe £200+ discount on a brand new phone. I now get to keep my great old flext account with discount.

How did you get it so damn cheap?

[noelsolutions]

Got the order in when all 3 discount codes were working :-). Really looking forward to the phone even more. As soon as I see it posted I placed order it was only a matter of time before Nokia clocked on.

[pwannell]

bah humbug, I guess i didnt do too bad getting it at £379.

[jjx]

There are a limited number of new Hutchinson 3G SIM cards that require a specific technical SIM card support in the mobile device. Nokia N900 has not originally been designed to support this operator requirement. As soon as we found out about this requirement, we started to work on the solution. A software update for the Nokia N900, estimated to be available by the end of this year, will fix this issue.

Ouch, end of the year! So I'll have my N900 but be unable to use it with my existing data contract for a while... *feeling the pain already*

Glad to hear it's a software update and not a hardware update, though. Phew!

[matikjn]

Ouch, end of the year! So I'll have my N900 but be unable to use it with my existing data contract for a while... *feeling the pain already*

Glad to hear it's a software update and not a hardware update, though. Phew!

Mid-Nov release now apparently, fingers crossed they can get the software update done for that deadline so people with those sim cards can use the phone straight away. One can at least hope...

[edgedemon]

Is anyone apart from MPD offering this phone yet???
I am having alot of trouble ordering online from them and they have suggested trying one of their stores, but none are near me.....
You can't order one over the phone via MPD - online only
I have been on the T-Mobile and Vodofone sites, but they are not listing the n900 yet?

Where else has anyone seen a n900 with contract?

[Cybjit]

There are a limited number of new Hutchinson 3G SIM cards that require a specific technical SIM card support in the mobile device. Nokia N900 has not originally been designed to support this operator requirement. As soon as we found out about this requirement, we started to work on the solution. A software update for the Nokia N900, estimated to be available by the end of this year, will fix this issue.

How new? My SIM card is from 2007. Does that mean I am safe?

[tomraider]

Is it just me or has mobilephonesdirect pulled all the t-mobile options from the site, I can only see vodafone?

[Faz]

Is it just me or has mobilephonesdirect pulled all the t-mobile options from the site, I can only see vodafone?
Same here. The only two tabs showing are View all Networks :confused: & vodafone. The T-Mobile tab is gone.

I had the T-mobile plans in my browser history, page now returns Your search query has returned no results. Please try an alternative search.

[erayzer]

Is it just me or has mobilephonesdirect pulled all the t-mobile options from the site, I can only see vodafone?

They removed the t mobile option because they have reached the limit for t mobile contracts on n900 anyone who got in before then you will still receive it.

[richie]

Ironically it seems the N900 is harder to get now it is getting nearer to mainstream and launch. Simfree it's £499, 60% more money than the N800. The UK's best 3g network 3, currently has sims that don't work in it, the UK mobile shops don't know anything about it and the one place you could get it on a contract with a decent network has stopped selling it.

Frustratingly I had the cash to get it today from mobilephonesdirect, but they don't want my money. I was in touch with them on their webchat, they said they only had t-mobile as an option for 2 months only, hopefully there will be more options available soon rather than paying £499 or joining Vodafone.

Rich

[eiffel]

richie, I'm not sure where you're getting the sim-free price of £499 from, but from mobilephonesdirect.co.uk the sim-free price is £449.99 (plus £4 p&p).

Regards,
Roger

[dace]

Having had a look there now I see no voda or tmob contracts listed, there is a low price voda where you pay over 300, this may be my bold being dodgy though!!

[Kieron]

T-Mobile N900 contracts are no longer available according to a chat assistant, because they have exceeded their preorder contract allocations.

[richie]

richie, I'm not sure where you're getting the sim-free price of £499 from, but from mobilephonesdirect.co.uk the sim-free price is £449.99 (plus £4 p&p).

Regards,
Roger

I was on about Nokia's shop price £499. However £450 is too much for me. I'll have to wait for the price to come down or for a network deal.

Rich

[dace]

Having had a look there now I see no voda or tmob contracts listed, there is a low price voda where you pay over 300, this may be my bold being dodgy though!!

it was my bold being dodgy, voda plans are there!! shame about tmob though!

[DannStarr]

Superetrader have it for £437, but postage is £7.99

[hass]

Hi Guys,

I received an email from Nokia Uk saying that there was a problem with my order and they need me to phone back to confirm it.

I must admit I was thinking oh oh.

Right it looks like they have cottoned on to the 3 voucher discount trick, I did try to profess my innocence in that I used 2 discount codes against the phone and the 3rd code was for the extra battery. Unfortunately Nokia have said they will only honour 30% off the phone and as a gesture of good will could knock off £5 for the battery.

I politely declined the battery discount but the N900 is now costing me £331.83 inc vat and free delivery.

i am not sure what this does to the topcashback offer as basically Nokia had to cancel the previous order and I have received an email from them confirming cancellation of my existing order but I have also received an email of confirmation for the new order it doesn't mention that it's a phone order the email starts "Thank you for your order at Nokia UK online shop".

I assume the 10% we initially got from Top Cashback will get rejected as the orders have been cancelled and resubmitted but you should be able to query it with them with your new order and fingers crossed they will pay.

I will keep an eye out on Top Cashback and submit a query once my cashback enquiry gets cancelled and will keep you updated of developments.

£331.80 is still not a bad price for a Nokia N900 although an extra £50 would be even nicer!

[REMFwhoopitydo]

received this email from MPD about 5 minutes back:

Dear Customer

As you may have read in the press, we’re sorry to confirm that delivery of your new Nokia N900 stock has been delayed to mid November – Our N900 stock when it arrives will be the first in the UK and orders will be dispatched on a first ordered, first served basis directly from our Nokia stores. Be assured that you are top of the dispatch list for a new Nokia N900 and you will not get the N900 anywhere else before this date, which for the moment is exclusive to Nokia direct sales channels.

Please accept our sincere apologies for this short delay and we thank you for your patience. Having read several reviews and personally used a pre-production N900 running with Maemo 5 operating system, be assured that the new Nokia N900 will be very much worth the short wait.

If you would like to discuss your pending order please email us at webshop@mobilephonesdirect.co.uk. For more details of the Nokia N900 please visit our new Nokia Retail website www.nokiaretail.co.uk or our main website at www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk

Kind regards,

[mcderment]

According to my email from MPD I am at the top of the dispatch list too, I wonder how many people are at the top.

[edgedemon]

I have had the same email from MPD
I'm holding off for the moment, but if anyone else gets a n900 in their hands before me, then Im emailing them straight back....

[jaark]

Looks like we're all standing on the top!

/me holds onto the railing.... it's a long way down!

[patstew]

According to my email from MPD I am at the top of the dispatch list too, I wonder how many people are at the top.

Presumably as many as there are phones due in the initial shipment. I do remember reading on here that MPD told someone that they had had a lot of preorders, but that they would be able to fulfil them all at launch. It would be interesting to know if anyone got an email that didn't say they're at the top though?

[ddracopo]

Hi,

Thinking on going with MPD Vodafone as T-mobile contracts are no more available with them.

Anyone knows for sure (based on experience) what happens if you exceed the "unlimited" 500MB limit and what are the actual restrictions on using the Vodafone network (skype, etc.)? Do they notify you as soon as you are close to the 500MB and what happens next?

How is their 3G central London coverage?

Cheers

[eiffel]

i am not sure what this does to the topcashback offer as basically Nokia had to cancel the previous order...

I also had to reconfirm, although as I only used the two legitimate vouchers they are still being accepted. But the order number has changed, and I'm sure TopCashback will register the original order as cancelled.

The corporation always seems to win against the individual. In this case, Nokia doesn't pay the legitimate negotiated rebate to TopCashback, and TopCashback doesn't pay the legitimate negotiated rebate to me. It sucks.

Regards,
Roger

[Enyibinakata]

Amazon.co.uk will be shipping the N900 on 2nd of November. Just days away. Did anyone order through Amazon ?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nokia-N900-Mobile-Computer-Software/dp/B002QEBX5E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1256831236&sr=8-1

[calubster]

I'm really getting quite frustrated with all the to-ing and fro-ing over this n900.

I've wanted a new phone for quite a while now as my old contract finished last month, but have been holding back and waiting for the n900, only to keep reading about more delays.

And just as it seems we can 'expect' a mid November release date in the UK - the bloody t-mobile deals disappear!

:mad:

[matikjn]

Unfortunately Nokia have said they will only honour 30% off the phone and as a gesture of good will could knock off £5 for the battery.

I politely declined the battery discount but the N900 is now costing me £331.83 inc vat and free delivery.


That's more than 30% off the original £499.99 price. Are you sure that is right?

[Fargus]

The discounts codes were 15% each - the website had a 'Feature' until Nokia chnaged it that meant codes were applied cumulatively. Make sense?

[matikjn]

The discounts codes were 15% each - the website had a 'Feature' until Nokia chnaged it that meant codes were applied cumulatively. Make sense?

Maybe I'm being stupid, but I can't see how that makes it £331.83, it should be either £349.30 or £360.53 depending how you want to calculate it

Edit: Another thread has been started, was the £331.83 price a typo?

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=360818#post360818

[dansus]

If you still want it with Tmobile, wait a little longer and most likely it will be available on Tmob through Expansys.

[richie]

I also had to reconfirm, although as I only used the two legitimate vouchers they are still being accepted.Roger

Hi Roger

Two vouchers still being accepted? Will they work for new orders? What are the codes?

Cheers
Rich

[hass]

Maybe I'm being stupid, but I can't see how that makes it £331.83, it should be either £349.30 or £360.53 depending how you want to calculate it

Edit: Another thread has been started, was the £331.83 price a typo?

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=360818#post360818

£331.83 inc vat and delivery was the price I was quoted, I even wrote it down on a piece of paper. I couldn't figure it out either as I was expecting him to quote me £349.03.

my card won't be debited until the 9th November which is when the phone comes out so I will keep an eye out on my online banking.

[hass]

Ok guys I just logged into my my Nokia Uk. the total is actually 331.84, it shows 30% off the phone and then there's a 5% discount which is broken down as "UK Telesales Service to Sale Devices 5%" which knockas another £17.46 off the device.

The guy did mention a 5% discount off the battery if I wanted it because I told him that I used the 15% accessory voucher in good faith, so he quoted me a higher price for the N900 with the battery and I said no and stuck with the N900 minus any accessories.

[kamakazikev24]

Hi,

Thinking on going with MPD Vodafone as T-mobile contracts are no more available with them.

Anyone knows for sure (based on experience) what happens if you exceed the "unlimited" 500MB limit and what are the actual restrictions on using the Vodafone network (skype, etc.)? Do they notify you as soon as you are close to the 500MB and what happens next?

How is their 3G central London coverage?

Cheers

I dont think they notify you, just start charging you a high amount per mega byte you go over. I would wait and try to go with TMobile if you need a contract. Or use an o2 iphone sim as there is no 'real' limit.

[eiffel]

Two vouchers still being accepted?
Nokia accepts the codes as valid, but you can't use them for new orders because the codes expired on October 21.

Regards,
Roger

[matikjn]

Ok guys I just logged into my my Nokia Uk. the total is actually 331.84, it shows 30% off the phone and then there's a 5% discount which is broken down as "UK Telesales Service to Sale Devices 5%" which knockas another £17.46 off the device.

The guy did mention a 5% discount off the battery if I wanted it because I told him that I used the 15% accessory voucher in good faith, so he quoted me a higher price for the N900 with the battery and I said no and stuck with the N900 minus any accessories.

Looks like you got lucky with that one. Wish I had ordered a second battery now :)

Even if it is £349.30 I'll be happy. I haven't heard from them, so maybe I'm not on their radar, or more likely I'm just lower down the queue.

[dansus]

I cant find the unlocked UK thread but heres a good deal on the N900.

£437 all in.

http://www.superetrader.co.uk/nokia-n900-media-tablet-ukqwerty-p-9711.html

[jdiddly]

On O2 here :)

http://www.buymobilephones.net/mobile-phones/Nokia/Nokia-N900/8,24196

[kamakazikev24]

200mb limit on the o2 tariffs is very poor! careful you dont get charged when you go over that limit.

[tomraider]

200mb limit on the o2 tariffs is very poor! careful you dont get charged when you go over that limit.

Seems odd, as going directly through O2 unlimited data really is unlimited, this is from the web bolt on policy (I have this on SIM only, 800 mins/unltd text/unltd data £20)

# The Web Bolt On allows you unlimited use of Telefonica O2 UK Limited's Edge/GPRS/3G networks (as applicable to your handset), for personal internet use via your mobile phone. All usage must be for your private, personal and non-commercial purposes. You may not use your SIM Card:
* in, or connected to, any other device including modems;
* to allow the continuous streaming of any audio / video content, enable Voice over Internet (Voip), P2P or file sharing; or
* in such a way that adversely impacts the service to other O2 customers.
If O2 reasonably suspects you are not acting in accordance with this policy O2 reserves the right to impose further charges, impose network protection controls which may reduce your speed of transmission, remove the Web Bolt On from your account or disconnect your tariff at any time, having attempted to contact you first.

[pelago]

You may not use your SIM Card:
* in, or connected to, any other device including modems;
* to allow the continuous streaming of any audio / video content, enable Voice over Internet (Voip), P2P or file sharing; or

Does anyone know how much O2 actually check for the above? That is, does anyone use the O2 Web bolt-on on another handset and regularly tether this to a computer, or do VoIP? Streaming audio/video (assuming they mean more than just the odd youtube clip), P2P or file-sharing aren't so important to me, but I would certainly like to use VoIP and tether occasionally.

I ask because I use O2 already for a GSM-only phone provided by my work, and it would be easier to stick with O2 if I upgrade to an N900.

[impatient]

I have o2 unlimited web, it came free with my upgrade. I will be using it with the n900 when it arrives. On the bill it says my allowance is 2GB I have once gone over this and nothing happened. I have heard if you have persistently high usage they may have a go at you, but I haven't heard of anybody that this has happened to. Frankly I struggle to go over the limit in the month, and I do use it for youtube etc what stops me going over is when I am near free wifi e.g. at home I use wifi.

[dansus]

Vodafones new sim only deals.

The new £20 and £25 price plans for 30 days and 12 months give customers "unlimited" data for as much mobile internet browsing and Facebook searching as required - up to a fair usage policy of 500MB.

The 30 day SIM-only plans give customers 600 minutes anytime, unlimited texts and unlimited data for £20 or 900 minutes anytime, unlimited texts and unlimited data for £25.

The 12-month SIM-only plans offer 900 anytime minutes, unlimited texts and unlimited data for £20 and 1200 minutes anytime, unlimited texts, unlimited data and unlimited calls to landlines for just £25.
http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/29309/vodafone-new-sim-only-tariffs-revealed

[Fargus]

Maybe I'm being stupid, but I can't see how that makes it £331.83, it should be either £349.30 or £360.53 depending how you want to calculate it

Edit: Another thread has been started, was the £331.83 price a typo?

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=360818#post360818

haven't got a calculator with me at present so will just explain the mechanism...

1st code = 15% off of full price of £499
2nd code = 15% off of price remaining after 1st discount
3rd code = 15% off of price remaining after 2nd discount code.

Some people got a cashback off in addition and finally fast shipping was an additional £9.99

Hope that helps some.

[Fargus]

Does anyone know how much O2 actually check for the above? That is, does anyone use the O2 Web bolt-on on another handset and regularly tether this to a computer, or do VoIP? Streaming audio/video (assuming they mean more than just the odd youtube clip), P2P or file-sharing aren't so important to me, but I would certainly like to use VoIP and tether occasionally.

I ask because I use O2 already for a GSM-only phone provided by my work, and it would be easier to stick with O2 if I upgrade to an N900.

I use it for my laptop and the N810 whilst on the train or at client sites. Never had a problems and I use WiFi too where I can to get the speed up. Other than central London being crippled speed due to flooded network traffic it seems fine. I suspect this clause is really only for the idiots that use it for their desktops instead of a fixed line.

[matikjn]

You might want to get that calculator out ;)

The odd price was thanks to the customer rep including a battery discount

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=360901&postcount=224

I had used the 3 discounts too and was confused by the new price hass had after re-ordering.

[Fargus]

You might want to get that calculator out ;)

The odd price was thanks to the customer rep including a battery discount

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=360901&postcount=224

I had used the 3 discounts too and was confused by the new price hass had after re-ordering.

I read about people that had their orders reapplied and they simply added the discounts together and applied them in one fell swoop instead of cumulative - 3 codes would be 45%! :)

[Dukeswharf]

Is that it for the deal, no other codes available?

[matikjn]

Last I heard you can't use multiple codes anymore. But I'm sure there must be a 15% code somewhere (I haven't been looking since I placed my order), and if you use it alongside a cash back site you can still make a decent saving.

[Dukeswharf]

I'm completely new to this whole online rebate thing, only having been introduced to Quidco earlier today!

Where can I locate codes from?

[matikjn]

I've googled around, but I can't find any valid codes - just discounts on particular devices (e.g. 5800), and nothing for the n900. It might become easier to get a discount on the n900 once it has been released for while.

If you want it within the next few weeks other retailers will probably be the cheapest option. MPD have it for 450 sim free, but there might other cheaper ones.

Apparently you can get it for free if you are willing to sign up to a 24 month contract.

[Nitchers]

What a jammy ba*t*rd i am, not only did i get my N900 for £306 because of the 3 discounts but i just got off the phone with TMobile to cancel my contract and they have reduced my payment from £34.99 a month to £9.97 a month (350 mins, unlimited text, and unlimited web&walk)

Sweet

[hass]

SOCUK15 is still a valid discount code allowing 15% off nokia and if you sign up to Topcashabck using the following link:
http://www.topcashback.co.uk/ref/hass80

you'll save another 10% off the price off the phone (list price and not the price minus the 15% discount).

The link is a referral one so I get a refferral of £2.50 for everytime anyone signs up and purchases anything.

[richie]

SOCUK15 is still a valid discount code allowing 15% off nokia and

I couldn't get it to work,the Nokia shop page says

The coupon code that you have entered is invalid.

Rich

[JBax]

SOCUK15 is still a valid discount code allowing 15% off nokia and if you sign up to Topcashabck using the following link:
http://www.topcashback.co.uk/ref/hass80

you'll save another 10% off the price off the phone (list price and not the price minus the 15% discount).

The link is a referral one so I get a refferral of £2.50 for everytime anyone signs up and purchases anything.

That code is invalid. Does anyone know any codes?

[Faz]

What a jammy ba*t*rd i am, not only did i get my N900 for £306 because of the 3 discounts but i just got off the phone with TMobile to cancel my contract and they have reduced my payment from £34.99 a month to £9.97 a month (350 mins, unlimited text, and unlimited web&walk)

Sweet
Nice one you Jammy Dodger! :D

[eightace]

The previous tariffs shown on Mobilephones.net have vanished. Anyone know why?

[Faz]

The previous tariffs shown on Mobilephones.net have vanished. Anyone know why?

Maximum current allocations for those networks reached, mentioned earlier in this thread.

[jjx]

@NvyUs: If you prefer another deal, you can cancel your Nokia Shop preorder before it's shipped and take the other deal.

Me, I'm sticking with the 30% discount and place in the queue that some of us managed to get from Nokia :-)