N900 best-selling phone on Amazon

[Architengi]

Yesterday N900 was the bestseller unlocked phone (see the top on the bottom of the page), today is #1 for unlocked phones with prices over $150... and #2 in unlocked phones top.

See the picture here as a proof, today 17-Sep-2009:

[sachin007]

Does anyone think that the n900 may have already sold more than the n97?

[Architengi]

Bestseller on Amazon.com (see the bottom of the page, after you select bestselling unlocked phones) where the "Continue shopping" is.

http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4109&stc=1&d=1253246286

I still can't believe a device costing US $ 589 is selling better than all other devices (exception is the blackberry pearl wich costs only $ 149... )

[NvyUs]

Does anyone think that the n900 may have already sold more than the n97?
no n97 sold 2 million in first couple of months nokia claim n97 is selling faster than n95 was at same stage of its life.

[UCOMM]

i hope every single one of those floods tmobile's 3g network, then they'll realize what people want

of course that would be a bad thing then, they may subsidize the phone and we would be forced to buy the "smartphone" data plan rather than the 10.00 one

[sachin007]

no n97 sold 2 million in first couple of months nokia claim n97 is selling faster than n95 was at same stage of its life.

I know... but i am talking about sales on amazon.com not world wide.

[Nathan]

It would be interesting to know how much "presales" their are at Amazon...

Nathan.

[allnameswereout]

On which time frame we talking about? 2 days? 1 week?

[Architengi]

N900 on Amazon.com sells unlocked for:

Price: $588 ($649)

http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N900-Computer-Unlocked-Phone-U-S/dp/B002OB49SW

Maybe this price made it attractive and a bestseller?

[klinglerware]

i hope every single one of those floods tmobile's 3g network, then they'll realize what people want


I hope not, since I'll have to use T-mobile's 3G network too. I don't want the AT&T situation where you can barely get EDGE speeds on 3G in some cities because the concentration of iPhone data users are just pulverizing the network.

[Architengi]

N900 on Amazon.com sells unlocked for:

Price: $588 ($649)

http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N900-Computer-Unlocked-Phone-U-S/dp/B002OB49SW

Maybe this price made it attractive and a bestseller?

The picture on Amazon for N900 is not the best one, doesn't show much in the UI.

[qole]

I hope not, since I'll have to use T-mobile's 3G network too. I don't want the AT&T situation where you can barely get EDGE speeds on 3G in some cities because the concentration of iPhone data users are just pulverizing the network.

Interestingly, I just heard the IT guys at the school where I work say something similar; their wireless network has crumbled under the load of students using their iPhones on the network... You can probably guess why I was talking to them. :mad:

I guess the iPhone is doing what needs to be done here, though. Pushing the infrastructure into the 21st century, kicking and screaming.

[Architengi]

If you have seen the Palm CEO on engadget show, he said it is important to focus (and have a direction).
Nokia has shown less focus and too much let's try and see... which is not good. For instance a Maemo phone could be done in 6 months after N810 was out, with kind of the same interface, but having telephony. They instead bought Symbian and forgot about Maemo until Symbian did NOT prove. Maybe too late in the competition with iPhone, Nokia looked again at Maemo. But even now the device is like a bastard for Nokia, N900 looks like an orphan, no carriers for it, no fight to get operators, no fight to show it to the world, no internet ads, no marketing, no TV commercials... Again, Nokia does not focus to promote this device like Apple did with iPhone, to create stories about it, to create a good light about it, to keep the device on the news... And yes, Apple is very, very focused, naming all its devices the same, creating a major brand "iPhone"...

Why Nokia does not focus?

[livefreeordie]

Why Nokia does not focus?

How can you cater to close to half the market by focusing on something narrow? Not gonna happen.

Also seems like the N900 is selling incredibly well even without advertising. Why waste your money?

Although I'm sure we'll see some ads when stores finally have it on the shelf.

[ossipena]

For instance a Maemo phone could be done in 6 months after N810 was out, with kind of the same interface, but having telephony.

so then one could have os 2008 with phonecalls.....

what's the point? i see more point renewing the ui and bringing the cellphone capabilities with signifigantly improved ui and hardware so there is bigger update. and step 4 out of 5 needs big updates when comparing step 3 n810 vs iphone...

[pycage]

This is not bad for a phone that has just been announced and is not even available. The blogging and vlogging scene apparently has a great impact on marketing these days, and Nokia knows how to put this to use.

[Architengi]

How can you cater to close to half the market by focusing on something narrow? Not gonna happen.

Also seems like the N900 is selling incredibly well even without advertising. Why waste your money?

Although I'm sure we'll see some ads when stores finally have it on the shelf.

If you will find statistics from AT&T (the only operator having iPhone) I bet more than 70% of the smartphones bought in last 2 years are iPhone - just to give you an idea that with focus you can have more then half of the market. With one product that excels for ALL (business - office users, music - media users, gamers, etc) you can have more than with N95, 5800, N97, E71, N900 all together.

It seems N900 is in better shape than any other Nokia device, compared to N95 or E71 no question because those are only 320 resolution instead of 800, and they are not touch, and compared to 5800, that is mostly a music and location device, no business on it, compared to N97, they are closer but N900 still excels. Conclusion is N900 is the Nokia flagship device, and only NOW we can start comparison with iPhone.

But Nokia to keep this device, which come out so late, 3 years after first iPhone and N800, to keep it as an underdog, as an orphan, it is lack of marketing and market sense, IMO. This device should have come out with a NAME not another number, and to be the emblem of Nokia, and to release other Maemo devices on the same brand-NAME. IMHO Nokia does not understand masses are confused by these numbers, they want unity and ONE device, updated as design and form factor every 3 or 6 months, under the same name (with a small suffix like X, or 3G, or MINI, etc), to make it simple. And Nokia needs to advertise THAT NAME. Not a number, a number cannot be even reserved as a copyright. Maemo is not a simple and catchy name, at least not for English speaking users which don't know how to use properly the latin alphabet and need instructions on pronunciation and spelling for every new word.

Nokia needs more focus on the Maemo devices and a name for them.

[christexaport]

Uh, N900, like all Nokia device names, are copyrighted and patented. And your view of the Nokia situation sounds US centric, but ignores the fact Nokia sells HALF of all the phones made, and 2 of every 5 smartphones sold. Facts say high end products get designated with numbers, and low end get letters, as in Honda Accord vs. BMW M3.

And the N95? If you recall, it outsold the iPhone. Nokia SEEMS confused, but it isn't them, but us. (though not me. I get the vision)

[Rotkaeqpchen]

I would like to see really stylisch ads on tv for the n900. Everyone has to know that this is the perfect phone/mobile computer.

[Rotkaeqpchen]

So, look at this, amazon.de (Germany) lists topsellers above 500€, there is: 1. N900 ... 2. iPhone :P

Haha ^^

[Architengi]

I would like to see really stylisch ads on tv for the n900. Everyone has to know that this is the perfect phone/mobile computer.

In UK and Europe the N900 is almost free with Vodafone (it is 29). No much need of marketing there...
http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Pay-As-You-Go/sc462/p26078.aspx

The problem is in USA where there is no operator for N900, and actually only T-Mobile can carry it, but it didn't seem to want it.

With no operator in USA, no way of it having mass appeal. $600 is still not a cheap price. Now, iPhone 3G is only $99 on AT&T, that's a difference...

But for the unlocked segment N900 rocks! :)

[Architengi]

>>>> Rotkaeqpchen wrote:
>>>> So, look at this, amazon.de (Germany) lists topsellers above 500€, there is: 1. N900 ... 2. iPhone :P

http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4111&stc=1&d=1253260652

Haha ^^


This is nice. All around the world N900 is top seller device!

[Rotkaeqpchen]

Luckily i preordered Aug. 29th. So i will surely get mine, without beeing afraid that it's outsolded. But its so hard to wait till mid of october...

[Architengi]

Luckily i preordered Aug. 29th. So i will surely get mine, without beeing afraid that it's outsolded. But its so hard to wait till mid of october...

I want to pre-order one too, but I am still on fence about it: can it cook, wash dishes? :D

[benny1967]

Reminds me of the times when N8x0s were in the top 3 of the sales charts @amazon.com during the holiday season ... afterwards, there were rumors of exceptionally high return rates.

i wouldn't count many pre-orders as an indication of the real success of a product (although i do, of course, hope it is going to succeed).

[Rotkaeqpchen]

Probably many people wouldnt think that they cannot use it as a phone :P

[Architengi]

Probably many people wouldnt think that they cannot use it as a phone :P

I know :) I just saw 3 guys on Engadget show having trouble finding the keyboard or opening the phone... I don't go in details about simple scroll gesture, they simple couldn't use it as anything... this like in that question: why do you need 3 Militia-man to screw a bulb in the socket?

[Rotkaeqpchen]

I think many people are afraid of high end devices, I saw someone from slashgear "trying" to use the n900. It looked absolutely ******ed, ... You shouldnt make a video of someone trying to use a device... ^^

[Architengi]

I think many people are afraid of high end devices, I saw someone from slashgear "trying" to use the n900. It looked absolutely ******ed, ... You shouldnt make a video of someone trying to use a device... ^^

Yep, 3 engadget-man to screw a light-bulb: one will go onto the table and the others will just rotate the table :p

Who gave them the Nokia mobile computer phone, when iPod is enough for them? :D

[Rotkaeqpchen]

Yeah :)

Anyway, I think, having a touchscreen, especially resistive (for stylus) combined with a good querty keboard WITH arrow keys, ... is the best combination an advanced user can get!

One month ago, i had the HTC Hero, wanted to play GBA, but, ... no keys to map. Onscreen keyboard was good, but by far not as good as a real keyboard... so i sold it...

By the way: Look at the price of the iPhone in germany, ... 1049€ ... and some guys were complaining about the price of 599€ for the N900...

[Architengi]

Yeah :)

Anyway, I think, having a touchscreen, especially resistive (for stylus) combined with a good querty keboard WITH arrow keys, ... is the best combination an advanced user can get!

One month ago, i had the HTC Hero, wanted to play GBA, but, ... no keys to map. Onscreen keyboard was good, but by far not as good as a real keyboard... so i sold it...

By the way: Look at the price of the iPhone in germany, ... 1049€ ... and some guys were complaining about the price of 599€ for the N900...

Yep, people in Europe are not in USA. In USA there is an economic crisis, remember? That's left for US to export nowadays :D
The price in USA is $588, in Europe is 600 €. This is fair, because when the "wind of change" blows from US to Europe, transporting the phone over the ocean in opposite sense makes it loose some $$.

[vkv.raju]

In UK and Europe the N900 is almost free with Vodafone (it is 29). No much need of marketing there...
http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Pay-As-You-Go/sc462/p26078.aspx

The problem is in USA where there is no operator for N900, and actually only T-Mobile can carry it, but it didn't seem to want it.

With no operator in USA, no way of it having mass appeal. $600 is still not a cheap price. Now, iPhone 3G is only $99 on AT&T, that's a difference...

But for the unlocked segment N900 rocks! :)

So, how is it in the UK like getting one on contract for 30 and then canceling the contract by paying some damages? Is that viable? In the US, it is.

If that is possible and the total (everything including the taxes) comes out to be cheaper than the amazon offered price, I would consider trying that route :) I have already pre-ordered mine at amazon.com but still $600 is a huge money. Difficult to get over this fact!

Also, did anyone try that microsoft promoted bing cashback thing? Will that work for pre-orders too?

[Architengi]

Also, did anyone try that microsoft promoted bing cashback thing? Will that work for pre-orders too?

What Microsoft discount are you talking about?

So, how is it in the UK like getting one on contract for 30 and then canceling the contract by paying some damages? Is that viable? In the US, it is.

If that is possible and the total (everything including the taxes) comes out to be cheaper than the amazon offered price, I would consider trying that route :)

You can have a subscription from UK if you have an address in UK.
Usually the contract stipulates you need to pay the remaining time left on contract (like 7 month left * 30$) or the price of the unlocked phone, which-one is the lower value.

[Laughing Man]

Microsoft Bing gives you a percentage cashback if you search through Bing.com and buy something from one of their partner retailers (e.g. Newegg).

[deadmalc]

I want to pre-order one too, but I am still on fence about it: can it cook, wash dishes? :D

No but I bet when I get mine delivered the dishes will be left for a few days ;-)

[Architengi]

""" vkv.raju
>> Also, did anyone try that microsoft promoted bing cashback thing? Will that work for pre-orders too?

>>>> Laughing Man
>>>> Microsoft Bing gives you a percentage cashback if you search through Bing.com and buy something from one of their partner retailers (e.g. Newegg).[/QUOTE]


So if I register at Bing.com, besides Newegg, is Amazon.com also on MS partner retailers?


EDIT: Do I need a coupon from Microsoft / Bing for this registration to get the discount, or anybody who registers gets the coupon after the registration?

[Dead1nside]

If you have seen the Palm CEO on engadget show, he said it is important to focus (and have a direction).
Nokia has shown less focus and too much let's try and see... which is not good. For instance a Maemo phone could be done in 6 months after N810 was out, with kind of the same interface, but having telephony. They instead bought Symbian and forgot about Maemo until Symbian did NOT prove. Maybe too late in the competition with iPhone, Nokia looked again at Maemo. But even now the device is like a bastard for Nokia, N900 looks like an orphan, no carriers for it, no fight to get operators, no fight to show it to the world, no internet ads, no marketing, no TV commercials... Again, Nokia does not focus to promote this device like Apple did with iPhone, to create stories about it, to create a good light about it, to keep the device on the news... And yes, Apple is very, very focused, naming all its devices the same, creating a major brand "iPhone"...

Why Nokia does not focus?

There's a few things that come to mind. Nokia is the single largest company in the market, it luckily does well in developing world markets too. Being the biggest ship I imagine it's harder to change course, so to speak - iPhone was a shock to the entire industry, especially Nokia - it is clear from Maemo 5 that their number one priority is services integration (by that I put an emphasis on web) as well as user experience (primarily UI design).

You are correct in being unable to identify Nokia's masterplan, I don't think they have one, the 'try and see' approach that you say seems accurate then. However they've been developing both Symbian and Maemo in parallel whilst all the while strengthening their position through strategic acquisitions (they own Navtek right?) as well as Qt, both of which are some of the most fundamental under-pinnings, or will be in the short term.

I also agree with you when you say that they could've added telephony in the N810 but instead I think they could've upped the integration in this device, although I won't know until I use it, it seems as if telephony is second fiddle. However that could be just in relative order to the good web experience you'll have on the device.

All I can say is that the N900 is a big boon for Nokia. Their marketing needs to be very in your face and focussing on these very visual features, just like the iPhone is doing. The possibility of operator partnerships also gives the device an almost infinite degree more visibility than just being a specialist device available from Nokia's own shop.

[Laughing Man]

""" vkv.raju
>> Also, did anyone try that microsoft promoted bing cashback thing? Will that work for pre-orders too?

>>>> Laughing Man
>>>> Microsoft Bing gives you a percentage cashback if you search through Bing.com and buy something from one of their partner retailers (e.g. Newegg).


So if I register at Bing.com, besides Newegg, is Amazon.com also on MS partner retailers?


EDIT: Do I need a coupon from Microsoft / Bing for this registration to get the discount, or anybody who registers gets the coupon after the registration?[/QUOTE]

I don't think Amazon is. If you try to use shopping on Bing.com, nothing comes up for n900 (Newegg does not currently stock the n900). And no you don't need a coupon, you just need an account through Microsoft, whereever you are shopping and.. Paypal if you want the money immediately. Or if you'd like a check you have to hit X amount of dollars before they'll send you a check. Though I think it's like 10 dollars or so.

[pycage]

By the way: Look at the price of the iPhone in germany, ... 1049€ ... and some guys were complaining about the price of 599€ for the N900...

Yes, but if you take it with an expensive data plan from T-Mobile, you'll get it for 1 €, and that's what most people do.
Really paying 1000 € for a phone is beyond any sanity IMHO.

[somedude]

""" vkv.raju
>> Also, did anyone try that microsoft promoted bing cashback thing? Will that work for pre-orders too?

>>>> Laughing Man
>>>> Microsoft Bing gives you a percentage cashback if you search through Bing.com and buy something from one of their partner retailers (e.g. Newegg).


So if I register at Bing.com, besides Newegg, is Amazon.com also on MS partner retailers?


EDIT: Do I need a coupon from Microsoft / Bing for this registration to get the discount, or anybody who registers gets the coupon after the registration?[/QUOTE]

go to discover card home and search for their partner amazon is listed and buy it through there 10% cash back wippieee.

[vkv.raju]

This deal is even better. At $599, they are giving a free 16gb microSDHC card (promotional offer).

http://www.mobilecityonline.com/wireless/store/productdetail.asp?productid=25125

Retail Price: $799.99
Our Price:$599.99
Buy and receive this item free

Nokia 16GB microSDHC Card and Adapter MU-44
Retail Value: $49.99

LIMITED TIME OFFER

[vkv.raju]

So if I register at Bing.com, besides Newegg, is Amazon.com also on MS partner retailers?


EDIT: Do I need a coupon from Microsoft / Bing for this registration to get the discount, or anybody who registers gets the coupon after the registration?

go to discover card home and search for their partner amazon is listed and buy it through there 10% cash back wippieee.[/QUOTE]

No coupons required. You need to have a live.com account, paypal (for the cashback). Search for an item from the bing.com page and if you see a "bing cashback" sort of tag, click that and just follow the instructions. That link generally appears at the top itself.

I have a Sony Play Station Card ($100 cashback if you buy worth $400 from sonystyle) from quite some time (dec 2008) but never used it. I didn't want a PS3 or a Sony product but still I applied for the card as people were reporting that, they were getting that $100 cashback inspite of wherever you purchase. I used the same card (for the first time) for my N900 order with amazon. I hope they give me that cashback! Anyone have any idea on this?

[Eric G]

I also agree with you when you say that they could've added telephony in the N810 but instead I think they could've upped the integration in this device, although I won't know until I use it, it seems as if telephony is second fiddle. However that could be just in relative order to the good web experience you'll have on the device.

I heard a very interesting story on NPR this week about how people are beginning to ignore voice mail. The interviewee said basically that we would much rather use texting and email over voice, and that it takes about 70 seconds to read a transcript of a 7 minute voice message.

If Nokia gets the word out, this could be as much a game changer for personal phones as the Blackberry was for work phones.

[qole]

My dream is a world where everyone has all of the IM protocols on their Internet-enabled mobile devices, and I can just IM with people and never ever have to actually talk to anyone who isn't in the room with me... :)

[Texrat]

I heard a very interesting story on NPR this week about how people are beginning to ignore voice mail. The interviewee said basically that we would much rather use texting and email over voice, and that it takes about 70 seconds to read a transcript of a 7 minute voice message.

If Nokia gets the word out, this could be as much a game changer for personal phones as the Blackberry was for work phones.

I have to agree with that assessment.

On a related note, I'm very impressed with Google Voice's voice-to-text transcription service. 100% accurate for me so far. THAT opens up possibilities...

[GeneralAntilles]

On a related note, I'm very impressed with Google Voice's voice-to-text transcription service. 100% accurate for me so far. THAT opens up possibilities...

Yeah, that one is impressive. Unfortunately it seems to fall on its face for names, though.

[Laughing Man]

Haha you have Google 411 and other Google Voice users to thank for its accuracy. More samples from all different ethnicities, and regions the more accurate it gets. Kinda scary how it's a self-feeding monster..

Though I think there's still a place for voicemail. For casual business or "hey where you at" there's SMS/IM. But for a heart endearing message I'll always take hearing "I love you" or "I'm sorry" over voice then in SMS/IM. But ideally in person would be the best.

[davidmaxwaterman]

Yes, but if you take it with an expensive data plan from T-Mobile, you'll get it for 1 €, and that's what most people do.
Really paying 1000 € for a phone is beyond any sanity IMHO.

I'm curious about the total cost of the T-Mobile data plan plus €1, compared to the price of the N900 unlocked and the plan you need.

Personally, all things being equal, I'd prefer to just get a loan for the €1000 than commit to a contract with a carrier, so I'm wondering what the incentive is. I have heard that they make the data plan less expensive if you take a contract that includes the phone (or more expensive if you don't), but I have yet to see a direct comparison. This would be needed in order to compare the costs of the alternative (the interest on a loan, for example).

Care to give us some of your figures?

[glabifrons]

The problem is in USA where there is no operator for N900, and actually only T-Mobile can carry it, but it didn't seem to want it.


I'm confused... why is T-Mobile the only one who can carry it?

(Are you trying to make me cry? I've been dreaming of the day I can drop T-Mobile because of how they treat the SideKick (and their customers)).

Sorry if this has been discussed... I don't even try to keep up with the discussions that run over 100 posts/day.

[pycage]

I'm curious about the total cost of the T-Mobile data plan plus €1, compared to the price of the N900 unlocked and the plan you need.

Personally, all things being equal, I'd prefer to just get a loan for the €1000 than commit to a contract with a carrier, so I'm wondering what the incentive is. I have heard that they make the data plan less expensive if you take a contract that includes the phone (or more expensive if you don't), but I have yet to see a direct comparison. This would be needed in order to compare the costs of the alternative (the interest on a loan, for example).

Care to give us some of your figures?

From the latest Telekom Shop News flyer, the iPhone 3GS with 16 GB is 1 € with one of those plans:

- Complete L: 119.95 €/month, full phone flat for calls within Germany, data flat reduced to 64 kbit/s after 5 GB transfer

- Complete 240: 69.95 €/month, 240 free minutes for calls within Germany, then 0.29 €/min for calls within Germany, weekend phone flat (to land line and T-Mobile only), data flat reduced to 64 kbit/s after 1 GB transfer

- Complete 1200: 89.95 €/month, 1200 free minutes for calls within Germany, then 0.29 €/min for calls within Germany, weekend phone flat (to land line and T-Mobile only), data flat reduced to 64 kbit/s after 5 GB transfer

They are milking iPhone fanboys like cows. I can remember that the plans for the normal iPhone 3G were not that high, but those are obviously not available anymore.
Oh, and all plans run for at least 24 months.

And remember that the iPhone is not really 1000 €. There is only the T-Mobile locked iPhone available in Germany. What you see on Amazon.de for 1000 € are expensive imports from countries where the law prohibits phone locking.

[pycage]

I'm confused... why is T-Mobile the only one who can carry it?


Because only T-Mobile uses compatible 3G frequencies in the US. With other carriers in the US you can only get 2G (and 2.5G) connection.

[lma]

Uh, N900, like all Nokia device names, are copyrighted and patented.

ITYM trademarked :-)

[glabifrons]

Because only T-Mobile uses compatible 3G frequencies in the US. With other carriers in the US you can only get 2G (and 2.5G) connection.

Wow... that was amazingly short-sighted on Nokia's part!
I thought it also could use 3G at least on AT&T's network.

[eiffel]

In UK and Europe the N900 is almost free with Vodafone (it is 29).
The deals you found (http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Pay-As-You-Go/sc462/p26078.aspx) seem exceptionally good, if they are still available when the device ships.

With T-mobile they are offering an 18-month contract for £29.36 per month, i.e. a total of £529 over the life of the contract. For that you get the phone, "unlimited mobile web" (which might be speed-throttled if you exceed 1GB per month), 300 SMS per month and 300 minutes per month. Maybe too good to be true.

With Vodafone they are offering a 24-month contract for £29.39 per month, i.e. a total of £706 over the life of the contract. For that you get the phone, "unlimited mobile web" (I'm not sure how unlimited Vodafone's mobile web really is), unlimited SMS and 300 minutes per month.

[jsa]

Wow... that was amazingly short-sighted on Nokia's part!
I thought it also could use 3G at least on AT&T's network.

I thought making a single phone that works for ~4,9 billion people(Europe, Asia, US T-Mo) compared to ~1 billion people in the Americas(AT&T frequencies) wouldn't count as "amazingly short-sighted".

That said, I'm pretty sure there will be Maemo devices with the 850 band available in the future too.

On topic: Does Amazon ever disclose sales numbers? It'd be interesting to know how many N900's have been pre-ordered, even a rough estimate. With that price in subsidised-with-contract-happy US the first/second place in unlocked is quite great.

[Architengi]

Today (Sep 21)
N900 is #1 on Amazon sales, surpassing the Blackberry Pearl #3 ($143) and any other unlocked phone.
The #2 place unlocked phone is Blackberry Gemini 8520 Unlocked ($329), the #5 place is Nokia 5800 ($299).



http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/wireless/ref=pd_ts_cps_ldr_wireless

The price of N900 is: $582.99 (save10% from $649).

In the overall top (unlocked and with service), N900 was #1 and today is #2 after BlackBerry Curve 8900 Phone, Titanium (T-Mobile) which is FREE on T-Mobile (Price: $0.01).

To be #2 in ALL the phones sold by Amazon with and without operator is a good performance, because N900 ($582) is in front of many phones with contract that are FREE.

[Architengi]

>>> On !7-Sep-2009:

>>> N900 on Amazon.com sells unlocked for:

>>> Price: $588 ($649)

>>> http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N900-Computer-Unlocked-Phone-U-S/dp/B002OB49SW

>>> Maybe this price made it attractive and a bestseller?

The price went down today (21-Sep-2009) to:

Price: $582.99

Do you think the price will go down even more?

[devaler]

I would think so, but I have no way to predict or promise that ;)

[Architengi]

>>> Originally Posted by Architengi
>>> In UK and Europe the N900 is almost free with Vodafone (it is 29).

The deals you found (http://www.mobilephonesdirect.co.uk/Pay-As-You-Go/sc462/p26078.aspx) seem exceptionally good, if they are still available when the device ships.

With T-mobile they are offering an 18-month contract for £29.36 per month, i.e. a total of £529 over the life of the contract. For that you get the phone, "unlimited mobile web" (which might be speed-throttled if you exceed 1GB per month), 300 SMS per month and 300 minutes per month. Maybe too good to be true.

With Vodafone they are offering a 24-month contract for £29.39 per month, i.e. a total of £706 over the life of the contract. For that you get the phone, "unlimited mobile web" (I'm not sure how unlimited Vodafone's mobile web really is), unlimited SMS and 300 minutes per month.

Is the N900 a bestseller also in England? Do they publish any statistics on their sites?

[GeraldKo]

Today (Sep 21)
N900 is #1 on Amazon sales, surpassing the Blackberry Pearl #3 ($143) and any other unlocked phone.
The #2 place unlocked phone is Blackberry Gemini 8520 Unlocked ($329), the #5 place is Nokia 5800 ($299).



http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/wireless/ref=pd_ts_cps_ldr_wireless

The price of N900 is: $582.99 (save10% from $649).

In the overall top (unlocked and with service), N900 was #1 and today is #2 after BlackBerry Curve 8900 Phone, Titanium (T-Mobile) which is FREE on T-Mobile (Price: $0.01).

To be #2 in ALL the phones sold by Amazon with and without operator is a good performance, because N900 ($582) is in front of many phones with contract that are FREE.

Using your link, N900 is down to 10th, FWIW. Behind numerous Blackberries, the Nokia 5800, Motorola V197 (unlocked, <$50), a Samsung, and a Sony Ericsson (not in that order).

[jandmdickerson]

It also depends on what page you look at. At below link they are 5th in unlocked phones category...

http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N900-Computer-Unlocked-3-5-Inch/dp/B002OB49SW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1253747508&sr=1-1

#5 in Cell Phones & Service > Accessories > Unlocked Phones

[Architengi]

It also depends on what page you look at. At below link they are 5th in unlocked phones category...

http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N900-Computer-Unlocked-3-5-Inch/dp/B002OB49SW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1253747508&sr=1-1

#5 in Cell Phones & Service > Accessories > Unlocked Phones

No more #1 or #2 (#2 after Blackberry Pearl) ....
today N900 is down to #5 ...

And the correct link is this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/wireless/283273011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_cps_1_3_last

Maybe because in the last 3 days the in top 10 threads on this site are things like:
N900 will not allow USB OTG! (327) (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=31921)
and
well respected reviewer "eldar" throwing caution to N900 (78) (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=31996&goto=newpost)
and
Closed Source packages in Maemo (102) (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=31967)

[jandmdickerson]

And the correct link is this:

Just curious why is this the wrong or not correct? I called Amazon and they told me your link is not as correct as mine....:D

So if you are looknig for the real link, then here it is
http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N900-Computer-Unlocked-3-5-Inch/dp/B002OB49SW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1253747508&sr=1-1

[Architengi]

Just curious why is this the wrong or not correct? I called Amazon and they told me your link is not as correct as mine....:D

So if you are looknig for the real link, then here it is
http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-N900-Computer-Unlocked-3-5-Inch/dp/B002OB49SW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1253747508&sr=1-1

Your link is not as good because it shows N900 on position #4 as opposed with the claim it is #5.

Anyways, 2 phones under $150, and another Blackberry (Gemini) at $320 topped N900 which is on sale for $582.

But it was #1 few days ago..., maybe it will be again #1 tomorrow, but don't throw your incorrect link again :D