And we have portrait mode.

[kryptoniankid17]

was checking out maemo.nokia.com and saw a link to twitter showing the n900 will have portrait mode web browsing this year. i might be late with this but it still sounds awesome.

[Jason404]

Oh that's good. But as web pages are at least just under 800px wide, I am not sure how that will work. iPhone style perhaps?

[kryptoniankid17]

now if they could only get this working for txt and im.

[jolo]

Yup, I would love to see someone make a portrait on-screen keyboard!!

[mykenyc]

http://twitter.com/WeAreMaemo/statuses/4730255228 .. :)

[kryptoniankid17]

http://twitter.com/WeAreMaemo/statuses/4730255228 .. :)

thanks i posted on my n95.

[kryptoniankid17]

Yup, I would love to see someone make a portrait on-screen keyboard!!

or even t9 input would be great.

[joshua.maverick]

It's coming, full portrait support expected by xmas I believe.

[RevdKathy]

A 'bear of little brain' question: I keep seeing comments about what 'is coming' by this or that date. My understanding is that the device will update itself (asking permission so I can stream updates at home rather than on the move at an inconvenient moment) and sort all that out itself, without my needing to 'know linux' to do it. I'd love to have portrait support - but not if it involves doing stuff waaay beyond my capacity. Am I understanding that right?

[mobiledivide]

Updates like this will definitely be over the air through the application manager. There should be no reason to 'know Linux' to get this capability.

[RevdKathy]

Updates like this will definitely be over the air through the application manager. There should be no reason to 'know Linux' to get this capability.

Thank you. So I will see on here that 'X wizzy update it a-coming' and then Mae (yeah, I already named her) will spot it and say "Can I? pretty please?" And I shall say "Later dear, when we get get home". Then on hitting my own wifi, I hit a few buttons, and she'll do the task herself.

Compared with previous firmware updates that sounds like a dream. (I recall the Treo600 update - I was so scared of bricking it I was err... passing bricks myself!)

[mobiledivide]

Thank you. So I will see on here that 'X wizzy update it a-coming' and then Mae (yeah, I already named her) will spot it and say "Can I? pretty please?" And I shall say "Later dear, when we get get home". Then on hitting my own wifi, I hit a few buttons, and she'll do the task herself.

Compared with previous firmware updates that sounds like a dream. (I recall the Treo600 update - I was so scared of bricking it I was err... passing bricks myself!)

Basically yes, but you will actually see it on your device you won't have to wait to find info on the internet. The application manager has a process that polls the repository for updates for installed applications periodically. A notification comes up (currently on the menu bar an orange exclamation mark, dunno about maemo 5) you can click this icon to launch the app manager and install the update. Firmware updates used to be a bit of a mess but since Diablo everything became a lot nicer and user friendly.

[pelago]

A notification comes up (currently on the menu bar an orange exclamation mark, dunno about maemo 5).
From the videos I've seen, it's the same on Maemo 5, although the icon is smaller.

I wonder why the tweet only mentions web browsing. Does this refer to an updated MicroB, or is it just talking about Fennec, for which we have already seen portrait screenshots? In other words, is this actually work by Nokia or not?

[range]

It's coming, full portrait support expected by xmas I believe.

For the browser, yes.

See Post #1 in this thread.

[eiffel]

So I will see on here that 'X wizzy update it a-coming' and then Mae (yeah, I already named her) will spot it and say "Can I? pretty please?" And I shall say "Later dear, when we get get home". Then on hitting my own wifi, I hit a few buttons, and she'll do the task herself.
That's exactly how it's promised to work. See this page for details:
http://maemo.nokia.com/features/maemo-update/

Regards,
Roger

[kryptoniankid17]

It's coming, full portrait support expected by xmas I believe.

thanks santa its the perfect gift.

[matthewcc]

I really hope for t9 support for texting - I have such difficulty full keyboard texting while driving, drinking coffee and smoking. This will make me a safer driver

[ColdFusion]

I really hope for t9 support for texting - I have such difficulty full keyboard texting while driving, drinking coffee and smoking. This will make me a safer driver

No, this will make you a dangerous driver because you're not supposed to use a mobile phone while driving without a hands-free.

[matthewcc]

No, this will make you a dangerous driver because you're not supposed to use a mobile phone while driving without a hands-free.

*sorry it was meant to be funny... :confused:

[quipper8]

No, this will make you a dangerous driver because you're not supposed to use a mobile phone while driving without a hands-free.

how are you supposed to txt hands free?

[ColdFusion]

how are you supposed to txt hands free?

You are not. Even talking with a hands free is detrimental to people's driving, but at least you have both hands at the wheel.

*sorry it was meant to be funny... :confused:

Oh, ok. But with all the Nokia is "promoting dangerous one hand use by enabling portrait mode"-stuff in that other thread i thought you were serious. :)

[jethro.itt]

how are you supposed to txt hands free?

Not hands free. You steer with your elbows and the camera of an N900 is used to display the road behind a semitransparent text you're composing.

[ymb]

RevdKathy, from what i have done using my device, the way it works is (at least for any installed applications, not had a firmware alert yet :) -
in the "indicator area" (the bit at the top of the screen with the clock etc) you see a little yellow/orange box with an exclamation mark.

You tap the clock, that pops-up a dialog-box, that shows what has an update.

you then choose to do the update, and it is then virtually the same as installing an app i.e. you check the box, click ok and watch a couple of progress bars, then see the message "1 application installed succesfully".

[rpcutts]

*sorry it was meant to be funny... :confused:

Don't fret, it was funny.
You can't always allow for folk without a sarcasm radar.

[YoDude]

You are not. Even talking with a hands free is detrimental to people's driving, but at least you have both hands at the wheel.



Oh, ok. But with all the Nokia is "promoting dangerous one hand use by enabling portrait mode"-stuff in that other thread i thought you were serious. :)

Um, one post by me about pending law suits and a possible tombstone mentality that arises and it was turned into Nokia promoting something. :eek:

My actual belief is that the more functions you provide some people the more they will use them at inappropriate times. Not just people texting while driving, there will be people looking up stock symbols, betting odds, recipe ingredients, song lyrics... you freakin' name it.

Now I said some people and not all people. Some people will use common sense.
However, more and more people these days seem to be clueless to the unintended consequences of their actions. That is all. :)


On a side, side note: I remember when I was a kid hearing the story about how some dude who was killed in a motor vehicle accident while riding his motorcycle to work one morning... There was milk and bits of cereal found on what was left of him and his bike. A few hundred feet back down the road they found a bowl and a spoon that matched the dishware at his house. Go figure. :p

[ColdFusion]

So it's not a problem of having mobile features, but a problem of stupid people.

Like I said, reading a folded newspaper has the same hazardous effects as having a smartphone with a lot of features.

Should we stop using scissors because you can run around with them. What are we, a society of glue-eaters?

[Alex Atkin UK]

Not hands free. You steer with your elbows and the camera of an N900 is used to display the road behind a semitransparent text you're composing.

The frightening thing is people do things like this. I have heard of people steering with their legs so they have both hands free. They would be seriously screwed (and anyone nearby likely) if they had to make an emergency stop.

[YoDude]

So it's not a problem of having mobile features, but a problem of stupid people.

Like I said, reading a folded newspaper has the same hazardous effects as having a smartphone with a lot of features.

Should we stop using scissors because you can run around with them. What are we, a society of glue-eaters?


The point I was trying to set up then, and can hopefully make now is:

With Maemo we are given a device that with a little knowledge, a little skill, and maybe a little help from the community we can make do whatever we want (within the capabilities of the hardware and the limitations of some drivers). We have seen it with the 770, N800, & N810 before. Anybody new to the forum need only look at the "Downloads" section and see that with the Diablo release there are at least 482 different things that the device didn't do out of the box but the community made happen anyway.

I'm sure someone can hold a baby in their arms, cut hair, drive a car, clean teeth, or eat a dang cheese samich with one hand while texting their vote for "Dancing with the Stars", programming the space shuttle, or ordering Kung Pow chicken on their N900 with the other. Some are pro'ly better at doing all those things simultaneously than I am doing just one thing. Who am I to judge?

I don’t have a problem with glue eaters or even those who want to rub pot roast all over their chest... I just feel a lot better if they had a little knowledge, a little skill, and maybe a little help from the community first. :)