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mario
10-27-2009, 01:41 AM
Is the lack of portrait mode a software issue or hardware issue? Another words, if the n900 comes out with portrait mode for only calling, will the same phone be able to be upgraded to run all applications in portrait mode.

Thanks

Soulfarmer
10-27-2009, 01:44 AM
It's software issue. Since for example the browser is said to get portrait mode support in an update before xmas, and Nokia has said that any 3rd party software can use portait mode if so wanted.

Guyver
11-29-2009, 02:12 AM
Hi, i somehow managed to get my n900 in portrait mode from a glitch. How weird.. lol:D

I probably cant recreate it again, but i just tilted the phone to launch the phone app then slide up the screen and closed the phone app.

Pics
http://share.ovi.com/album/Guyver95.PortraitMode

sajd4000
11-29-2009, 02:29 AM
Hi, i somehow managed to get my n900 in portrait mode from a glitch. How weird.. lol:D

I probably cant recreate it again, but i just tilted the phone to launch the phone app then slide up the screen and closed the phone app.

Pics
http://share.ovi.com/album/Guyver95.PortraitMode

So the phone has the ability it just needs to be tweaked

dansus
11-29-2009, 02:30 AM
Nice!

I guess the software has been written, it just hasnt been activated via accelerometer yet.

romanianusa
11-29-2009, 03:30 AM
It looks uGLY in portrait mode. No wonder Nokia use landscape only! I don't see myself surfing the web with portrait even if it's there.

Kieron
11-29-2009, 09:25 AM
Hi, i somehow managed to get my n900 in portrait mode from a glitch. How weird.. lol:D

I probably cant recreate it again, but i just tilted the phone to launch the phone app then slide up the screen and closed the phone app.

Pics
http://share.ovi.com/album/Guyver95.PortraitMode
Congrats, your famous :P

http://maemoworld.org/2009/11/29/nokia-n900-running-in-portrait-mode/

MSHAH
11-29-2009, 09:28 AM
ahh here you are! did you try it again, did it work when you tried it again!?

Soheil
11-29-2009, 05:47 PM
And can you share under what circumstance did you encounter this glitch... as I'm sure everyone of us with a N900 would like to try it ;-)

danielwilson
11-29-2009, 06:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgG6UY4nxQg n900 running in portrait mode

nashith
11-29-2009, 06:41 PM
Nice bug huh hehe... I am sure portrait mode will come handy (one handy ;) ) for everyone... can't wait to see actual implementation.

johnnyrockets911
11-29-2009, 06:54 PM
Congrats, your famous :P

http://maemoworld.org/2009/11/29/nokia-n900-running-in-portrait-mode/

Now on Engadget

http://www.engadget.com/2009/11/29/nokia-n900-glitch-leads-to-useful-portrait-mode/

Wow lol :D:D

kopte3
11-29-2009, 07:41 PM
We have a famous member here now. :)

EDIT: Can i be your best friend? :D

God
11-29-2009, 07:48 PM
:S! Portrait on this OS, is utter ****! What's the point in portrait anyway?
Typing a text on the N900 on portrait, (without a stylus, which also requires two hands) with a resistive touchscreen isn't a very good idea.
And the rest of stuff seems pretty stupid as well on portrait. I was attracted to this device just because of how it looks on landscape & the sexy keyboard it has...so yeah, no big deal to me

Guyver
11-29-2009, 08:08 PM
Hello all, haha wow this is spreading like wild fire on the internet:D

Like i said, I had had the "launch by turning" on and as it started to open the phone app, i opened up the keyboard and closed the phone app.
I tried to make it glitch again, but it doesn't seem to work. I'll keep trying.

kopte3: Sure :D lol

pycage
11-29-2009, 08:27 PM
Lol, what you've seen is a bug.
The phone switched orientation for the phone app and then somehow forgot to switch back when going to the desktop. :)
It sorta works, but the UI hasn't been adapted for this orientation.

One might also be able to force portrait mode on the desktop by using xrandr (which is not on the device out of the box). But will it look good or will it be usable?

francorg
11-30-2009, 02:33 AM
i just need portrait mode to write sms with one hand with a t9 keyboard like I did on the n97... I hope my dream comes true :-)

thinh
11-30-2009, 02:52 AM
:S! Portrait on this OS, is utter ****! What's the point in portrait anyway?
Typing a text on the N900 on portrait, (without a stylus, which also requires two hands) with a resistive touchscreen isn't a very good idea.
And the rest of stuff seems pretty stupid as well on portrait. I was attracted to this device just because of how it looks on landscape & the sexy keyboard it has...so yeah, no big deal to me


i'm assuming u never used a 5800 or a n97 before then, cuz you can choose to use the dial pad with t9 and it's just as fast and accurate as a normal non qwerty phone. The size of the button is big enough to not make any mistake and confortable enough to text with one hand without looking.

as for web in portrait i agree isn't as useful

God
11-30-2009, 09:04 AM
i'm assuming u never used a 5800 or a n97 before then, cuz you can choose to use the dial pad with t9 and it's just as fast and accurate as a normal non qwerty phone. The size of the button is big enough to not make any mistake and confortable enough to text with one hand without looking.

as for web in portrait i agree isn't as useful

Yeah but it's the lack of responsiveness that you'd feel comfortable with, by using one hand while writing an SMS. I'm not sure, but the phone just seems WRONG on portrait. I mean, if you have portrait + landscape, sure why not? Just an extra option you have, but I wouldn't say it's a MUST!

Well, my girlfriend has a N97 mini, so yeah, I have. But there again, it's also a lot easier to type with the physical keyboard imo.
+ the entire Symbian OS on portrait doesn't look that bad, whereas the whole "maemo has 4 desktops" wouldn't look that great.

cristids
11-30-2009, 10:51 AM
Don't have an N900 but just thinking: if you open phone and then kill -9 the phone app . Wouldn't this leave the system in portrait mode?

thinh
11-30-2009, 01:49 PM
Yeah but it's the lack of responsiveness that you'd feel comfortable with, by using one hand while writing an SMS. I'm not sure, but the phone just seems WRONG on portrait. I mean, if you have portrait + landscape, sure why not? Just an extra option you have, but I wouldn't say it's a MUST!

Well, my girlfriend has a N97 mini, so yeah, I have. But there again, it's also a lot easier to type with the physical keyboard imo.
+ the entire Symbian OS on portrait doesn't look that bad, whereas the whole "maemo has 4 desktops" wouldn't look that great.


my friend also has a n97 and the qwerty keyboard on it i must say is horrible on it to the point that he restricted himself to only using t9 with the dial pad. Where as in my n900 the feedback on my n900 is probably the best i ever used. Miles away from the n97 imho. A tiny responsiveness is something all touch screen phone has when texting but after a week u won't even realize it.

Also on the n97 the sym keys are on the right where the n900 sym is on the left which i prefer left much more cuz i rather use my right hand to select the keys i want.

But i'm a person on the go and where portrait mode texting is important to me. It's something i'm willing to wait for because this is the best mini devices i ever used, it can do almost anything which keeps me from needing to pull out my netbook.

*typed on my n900 *

msa
11-30-2009, 01:57 PM
portrait mode (including a virtual keyboard obviously) would be nice for one-hand-usage.

pycage
11-30-2009, 02:14 PM
Don't have an N900 but just thinking: if you open phone and then kill -9 the phone app . Wouldn't this leave the system in portrait mode?

No, I just tried this.

ssh into device
sleep 3; pkill -9 rtcom
Activate phone app.
You need the sleep because starting the phone app will freeze the SSH session.

Phone app dies, but the task switcher or desktop switches back to landscape immediately.

j2001m
11-30-2009, 03:40 PM
i also have got the phone to do this bug the desktop looks crap when in this mode, i have no idea how they are going to make the desktop look good and all the icons will need to be setup on the desktop again if you get me, i think it will only happen for the apps as needed and not the desktop

i also think the phone work very good as it is, and the screens the best, i have used, its very fast, i have no idea why anyone in the reviews think the screen is no good, what joker, have they used the n97, now that got a crap screen, jokers

weirdbeard
12-11-2009, 03:00 AM
I just did this on accident. The ironic part was I used the app braek off of the extras to do it. All I did was start it, power button, phone, power button, end current task.

Mandibela
12-20-2009, 05:57 PM
http://share.ovi.com/media/Mandibela.N900Portrait

Kieron
12-21-2009, 07:18 AM
http://kieters.wordpress.com/2009/12/18/how-to-force-the-nokia-n900-into-native-portrait-mode-guide-screenshots/

Gobelet
12-25-2009, 01:47 PM
I played with my phone a little bit, and it seems it's all about timing when you open the keyboard. I'm able to reproduce it 1/8-10 times. You just open the keyboard right before the app opens (before the turning animation).

Lehto
12-26-2009, 02:31 PM
I have found a way to reproduce this bug always now. Its very easy!
First I must say Im very sorry if this is already known for reposting it but here it goes!

First download that software braek, its a simple software that produces a crack looking thingy to the screen.

Now make a shortcut to the desktop for braek, then make a shortcut for the phone and the X-terminal on the left side of the screen.

Now open braek and start quickly tapping the area where the phone shortcut lies. Now the phone opens. Close phone software normally and N900 is locked to portrait... you can use Xterminal to kill braek by typing
killall braek

Tada forced portrait and works always for me. Some software dont like it though. You can open and close the keyboard as you wish and its locked in portrait.


To get it back to landscape without restarting phone just open the phone software and close it normally and it goes to portrait.

Tupss
01-08-2010, 11:49 AM
Next FW better have portrait mode or im selling !!!! Its such a hassle to take the phone out of your pocket and directly use it in landscape.. I mean its Freaking winter !!!!!!! I got to be able to use it one handed. today I got really frustrated about this. Had to make some calls but didnt even want to anymore because of this..
Also my battery went dead I was trying to charge it via usb from my laptop and turn it on it just kept vibrating and trying to get on but it couldnt.. kept it to charge for like 3 hours my laptop went dead and still phone had just a LITTLE BIT of charge on it WTF ? thats just made me sick.

biggzy
01-08-2010, 11:52 AM
Next FW better have portrait mode or im selling !!!! Its such a hassle to take the phone out of your pocket and directly use it in landscape.. I mean its Freaking winter !!!!!!! I got to be able to use it one handed. today I got really frustrated about this. Had to make some calls but didnt even want to anymore because of this..
Also my battery went dead I was trying to charge it via usb from my laptop and turn it on it just kept vibrating and trying to get on but it couldnt.. kept it to charge for like 3 hours my laptop went dead and still phone had just a LITTLE BIT of charge on it WTF ? thats just made me sick.

you can make all calls in portrait mode cant you? open phone app then from there contacts and its all in portrait. or am i missing something?

mysticrokks
01-08-2010, 11:56 AM
yeah i dont get what he means by the phone not in potrait, but the power issues , jeas its horrible.

Corso85
01-08-2010, 12:52 PM
you can make all calls in portrait mode cant you? open phone app then from there contacts and its all in portrait. or am i missing something?

Yes. but in order to "open" the phone app. you have to get through the "landscape" menu or have it placed on the desktops. Now if you were at a diff desktop. then you'll have to awkwardly go thru desktops holding the phone upwards while all the shortcut icons are facing the wrong way.

Yes. there is an option to have the app launch automatically when you hold the phone upright. but it's slow and sometimes if you don't do it right, the phone wont launch at all. the lack of frontal buttons is not helping either.

I understand the possibility of a global portrait mode is not strong for Maemo 5. it seems to be a Maemo 6 planned feature.

And we cannot claim we didn't see this coming. The N900 Logo IS PRINTED on the phone in Landscape after all.

But how about a compromise?

We just need the following things to be Portrait. That's all. atleast for me.
1. Menu for launching stuff.
2. SMS/Conversations
3. Email
4. On-Screen Portrait Keyboard.
5. Browser

Just give me those 5.
Using the Braek glitch, the browser works just fine in Portrait. so we're like almost there.

rewt
01-08-2010, 12:55 PM
@Corso85: Power button, swipe, power button, phone. Very easy to do with phone physically portrait with one hand.

Corso85
01-08-2010, 01:33 PM
@Corso85: Power button, swipe, power button, phone. Very easy to do with phone physically portrait with one hand.

Not really. If one is right handed. that places the power button to bottom right corner. You'll have to loosen your grip a little to allow your thumb to hit the power button twice. Not a good thing to do while on the go.

It's more of a work around than a solution. However, it's too late to talk hardware now. I have no probs with the phone app. I was just explaining the other persons frustration/point of view.

The issues with portrait I have are listed above.

rewt
01-08-2010, 02:32 PM
If one is right handed. that places the power button to bottom right corner.

The power button in the center? I have no problem reaching it and I'm right handed.

niwde1980
04-15-2010, 12:14 AM
so it still not ready to view desktop in portrait ? anyone know when this update will be available ?

it will be handy with 1 hand :D

maxximuscool
04-15-2010, 12:17 AM
so it still not ready to view desktop in portrait ? anyone know when this update will be available ?

it will be handy with 1 hand :D

Umm... when the unicorn is no longer a mythology beast.

gjoe
04-15-2010, 12:37 AM
i think, the user for n900 needs to set their expectation right. they should know the limitation of n900 before decide to purchase it. it is an internet tablet first, a phone second. hence the limitation in phone functionalities. but i believe those limitation can be resolved thru firmware update..

just my 2 cents.

NokTokDaddy
04-15-2010, 01:08 AM
so it still not ready to view desktop in portrait ? anyone know when this update will be available ?

it will be handy with 1 hand :D

It IS handy with 1 hand!

When I first had my N900 I found it baffling and dissimilar to what I was used to.

You need to download some brilliant yet simple-to-install apps and widgets (browse the repositorys/application catalogues, but BE CAREFUL when downloading from Extras-Testing and Extras-Devs - these apps are still works-in-progress, despite their finished 'look')

When browsing, I use the thumbs of both hands to snap open the slide, quickly tap out a query on my desktop google search (landscape), snap the slide closed and palm the device (portrait) in my right hand to scroll the page from there on.

To make a call from standby (when holding phone portrait) I hit the power key with my right thumb, then drag the screen-slider with my right thumb. The phone browser opens by default in portrait if it was the last app I used, or I do a long tap on the camera button to activate it.

I can then scroll single-handed in prortrait through all my contacts, select and tap to call, just like any other phone.

I don't think any of this could be any easier...

I have one of my FOUR homescreens CUSTOMISED with ten contacts. Each contact has a picture so I can easily recognise who's who (even in portrait when the contacts are on their side). Each contact has manifold options for numbers, text, email, or IM. Although you view them all side-on in portrait, it still works fairly easily.

If I want to text, email or use any other app, it is EASIER and FASTER in landscape because you can use two hands (thumbs, in my case).

Look at all the latest phones - Microsost Kin, Nokia C6, etc - the phone world is going LANDSCAPE 'cause it's easier!

Enjoy!

kennibal
04-15-2010, 01:17 AM
Yes. but in order to "open" the phone app. you have to get through the "landscape" menu or have it placed on the desktops. Now if you were at a diff desktop. then you'll have to awkwardly go thru desktops holding the phone upwards while all the shortcut icons are facing the wrong way.

Yes. there is an option to have the app launch automatically when you hold the phone upright. but it's slow and sometimes if you don't do it right, the phone wont launch at all. the lack of frontal buttons is not helping either.

I understand the possibility of a global portrait mode is not strong for Maemo 5. it seems to be a Maemo 6 planned feature.

And we cannot claim we didn't see this coming. The N900 Logo IS PRINTED on the phone in Landscape after all.

But how about a compromise?

We just need the following things to be Portrait. That's all. atleast for me.
1. Menu for launching stuff.
2. SMS/Conversations
3. Email
4. On-Screen Portrait Keyboard.
5. Browser

Just give me those 5.
Using the Braek glitch, the browser works just fine in Portrait. so we're like almost there.

I agree to this. But I prefer 2, 4 and 5 to get prioritized...

Even if we have already thought this as an Internet tablet, its main objective, it would be more powerful if it will allow you having your phone be usable in portrait mode, same as at its landscape orientation. That will be a major revision, but that won't hurt since it is a tablet pc and a phone utilizing one of the powerful processors for its size.

NokTokDaddy
04-15-2010, 01:39 AM
Even if we have already thought this as an Internet tablet, its main objective, it would be more powerful if it will allow you having your phone be usable in portrait mode, same as at its landscape orientation. That will be a major revision, but that won't hurt since it is a tablet pc and a phone utilizing one of the powerful processors for its size.

With respect, I don't buy into this 'It's an Internet Tablet' philosophy - do we all carry an N900 in one pocket and a phone in the other - I don't think so...

We don't need to make too many excuses for this PHONE as it is.

Most interaction (i.e. physical input/screentaps) is easier in Landscape. I ran a lowly 6210 Navigator last year - allways browsed in landscape and longed for a landscape querty. A lot of phones are going landscape because of the advantages this format offers - they are not all 'Internet Tablets'

Courtesy of 'Shortcutd' I can access the phone app with one long push on the camera button. What I could do with from that point on is for the Dialling Pad to open (as opposed to the Phone app main screen).

If there was a 'search contacts' button on the Dialling Pad and the alphanumeric function was functional I could search for contacts by name. Not a big ask, I hope?

Yes, you can do that in landscape via the slide-out keypad, but that requires two hands and there are occasions when I need to work one-handed - and that dictates portait.

kennibal
04-15-2010, 01:53 AM
@NokTokDaddy

Ok. Not Internet Tablet. What about Social Networking phone?

Looking at the series of models released by Samsung, and now by Nokia and Microsoft Kin, they are intended to interact with people through social networking sites and be able to send updates (be it long or short statements) that will require physical (or virtual) keyboard.

Now, and I believe, it always come to the point in all of us that you're kinda tired and sleepy to use a phone with your 2 hands. Here goes the one-hand operation to save your remaining tasks.

Remind you, this is why N900 sprouted from its elderlies (N810 etc) as smaller brother to come in handy build feature (because of its Phone features) and allow you to do several important features in portrait mode.

Why does microB browser has portrait mode? Why is Firefox's upcoming update will also support portrait mode? Maybe because N900 fits the hand right for portrait orientation too.

NokTokDaddy
04-15-2010, 02:07 AM
@kennibal

I agree - I think the N900 was ahead of it's time at launch and remains so.

Without doubt, there are times when Portrait/single-handed use is preferrable. Indeed, I frequently browse the net and read docs in portrait.

N900 as a Social Networking Phone?

I think this forum is crowded enough with phone-using proletariat (myself included) - can you imagine the pandemonium if we allowed the kids in?

I for one don't think this forum would benefit from Vicky Pollard's (http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/littlebritain/characters/vicky.shtml) postings !

imperiallight
04-15-2010, 02:35 AM
I'm sorry, saying you can use the phone in portrait because you can use two hands two use the keyboard and it is faster makes no sense at all.

jcompagner
04-15-2010, 02:45 AM
i agree with portait mode in browser/rss reader/conversations/email. but then just mainly for reading stuff not for typing/replying.

i had a phone for 2 years before the N900 thats the E90 and that phone also has both views and yes i could us the front screen and numpad to reply for example to an sms. Did i do that in those 2 years? i think i can count that one 1 hand.

i always when i started typing switched to landscape and the real keyboard. that is so much faster.

So what i hope first is that portrait mode is brougth to us purely for reading stuff. then we can ook further.

NokTokDaddy
04-15-2010, 03:03 AM
I'm sorry, saying you can use the phone in portrait because you can use two hands two use the keyboard and it is faster makes no sense at all.

Don't think I said that...

LANDSCAPE is faster for me to TYPE in 'cause I can use two digits instead of one. Landscape can be more convenient to VIEW/READ/BROWSE if I'm walking about, holding a pint or driving (only joking).

The screen seems more logical to me in LANDSCAPE - just like a PC monitor or TV you get a more panoramic view, but opinions will vary.

The point is, with the N900 you have the option on the phone application, MicroB browser (and now on Firefox as well, I believe) to use either mode, but text input can only be via LANDSCAPE.

I maintain text input is easier with two thumbs on a hard keyboard, but that's just my opinion.

The only ways you could input (type) in PORTRAIT would be via an on-screen keypad (which would take up too much space when browsing) via a portrait-sliding phone (where the keys tend to be too small if it's a qwerty) or via a device like an E72 or Blackberry with a hard-button qwerty.

These are the obvious points to consider when buying a phone and I have no regrets whatsoever!

kennibal
04-15-2010, 03:21 AM
Yup. That's true speed typing on the qwerty keyboard.

Why not include also portrait keypad for replying "OK" or "Yes". That could be sweet!

I remember there were virtual keypad applications for Symbian s60 5th both for portrait and landscape. It makes life flexible and convenient a bit.. :)

cypello
08-19-2010, 06:54 AM
hey...can you tell me pls...were can i find the x-terminal software and Braek to be downloaded? where did you get them? thx :)

cypello
08-19-2010, 06:57 AM
I have found a way to reproduce this bug always now. Its very easy!
First I must say Im very sorry if this is already known for reposting it but here it goes!

First download that software braek, its a simple software that produces a crack looking thingy to the screen.

Now make a shortcut to the desktop for braek, then make a shortcut for the phone and the X-terminal on the left side of the screen.

Now open braek and start quickly tapping the area where the phone shortcut lies. Now the phone opens. Close phone software normally and N900 is locked to portrait... you can use Xterminal to kill braek by typing
killall braek

Tada forced portrait and works always for me. Some software dont like it though. You can open and close the keyboard as you wish and its locked in portrait.


To get it back to landscape without restarting phone just open the phone software and close it normally and it goes to portrait.



@ Lehto: = hey...can you tell me pls...were can i find the x-terminal software and Braek to be downloaded? where did you get them? thx :)

Venemo
08-19-2010, 06:58 AM
hey...can you tell me pls...were can i find the x-terminal software and Braek to be downloaded? where did you get them? thx :)

X Terminal is in there by default. Braek can be installed from one of the Extras repositories via the app manager, or by downloading the .deb directly.

cypello
08-19-2010, 08:37 AM
X Terminal is in there by default. Braek can be installed from one of the Extras repositories via the app manager, or by downloading the .deb directly.


@ Venemo: you are reffering at the updates from app maneger ...using the maemo extras? ...for more and more apps? or it's a another option? what is the Extras Repositories?

cypello
08-19-2010, 08:43 AM
X Terminal is in there by default. Braek can be installed from one of the Extras repositories via the app manager, or by downloading the .deb directly.



@ Venemo: i find this video on ytube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flAD2UftusQ ...i have to do that in order to get "Braek"?...at this you did reffer? or are they another steps? another options? is there an tutorial about Extras Repositories in case i the video is not what i mean early?

Venemo
08-19-2010, 10:07 AM
@ Venemo: i find this video on ytube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flAD2UftusQ ...i have to do that in order to get "Braek"?...at this you did reffer? or are they another steps? another options? is there an tutorial about Extras Repositories in case i the video is not what i mean early?

Yes, the video shows what to do.
This page (http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/braek/1.1-1/) tells us that Braek is currently in Extras-testing.

I should also point out that installing stuff from Extras-testing and Extras-devel can be dangerous, so if you are not a developer or a power user, you'll have to accept the risks.

My advice is that you should _only_ enable Extras-testing, then install Braek, then disable Extras-testing.
You should enable plain Extras, though, as it contains cool and usable stuff.

You can read more about what a repository is here:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository

You can read more about each repository here:
Extras (http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras) - stable, tested, proven software
Extras-testing (http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing) - software under testing, possibly unstable!
Extras-devel (http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-devel) - development software, usually unstable... may blow up your device!

Zas
08-19-2010, 10:20 AM
Since you can force an application to portrait mode with ctrl+shift+r is it possible to do that in xterm say: ossofilemanager --portrait

cypello
08-19-2010, 11:57 AM
Yes, the video shows what to do.
This page (http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/braek/1.1-1/) tells us that Braek is currently in Extras-testing.

I should also point out that installing stuff from Extras-testing and Extras-devel can be dangerous, so if you are not a developer or a power user, you'll have to accept the risks.

My advice is that you should _only_ enable Extras-testing, then install Braek, then disable Extras-testing.
You should enable plain Extras, though, as it contains cool and usable stuff.

You can read more about what a repository is here:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository

You can read more about each repository here:
Extras (http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras) - stable, tested, proven software
Extras-testing (http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing) - software under testing, possibly unstable!
Extras-devel (http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-devel) - development software, usually unstable... may blow up your device!

@ venemo: OK, thx, so...the order is this... do like it the clip, install braek, and then disable all extras, correct? to not have any unaspected problems with the phone?! Disabling all extras the stability is much higher than if all the extras remains enabled, correct?!

cypello
08-19-2010, 12:12 PM
Yes, the video shows what to do.
This page (http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-testing_free_armel/braek/1.1-1/) tells us that Braek is currently in Extras-testing.

I should also point out that installing stuff from Extras-testing and Extras-devel can be dangerous, so if you are not a developer or a power user, you'll have to accept the risks.

My advice is that you should _only_ enable Extras-testing, then install Braek, then disable Extras-testing.
You should enable plain Extras, though, as it contains cool and usable stuff.

You can read more about what a repository is here:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Repository

You can read more about each repository here:
Extras (http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras) - stable, tested, proven software
Extras-testing (http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-testing) - software under testing, possibly unstable!
Extras-devel (http://wiki.maemo.org/Extras-devel) - development software, usually unstable... may blow up your device!


@ venemo: and if i dont have in the updates extra-testing, i have to create him, than install Braek, and then disable extra testing, right?

and about what user ZAS says up: "Since you can force an application to portrait mode with ctrl+shift+r is it possible to do that in xterm say: ossofilemanager --portrait" = what do you think, do you know this method? is it possible...and more easy?!

cypello
08-19-2010, 01:39 PM
Since you can force an application to portrait mode with ctrl+shift+r is it possible to do that in xterm say: ossofilemanager --portrait

@Zas: and what will happen wen i do that?! i only need to type it identic like this: ossofilemanager --portrait ??! Can you tell me the exact steps to do portrait mode?!

cfh11
08-19-2010, 02:20 PM
@Zas: and what will happen wen i do that?! i only need to type it identic like this: ossofilemanager --portrait ??! Can you tell me the exact steps to do portrait mode?!

press ctrl+shift+r
close keyboard
DONE

Note though that Maemo 5 does not fully support portrait mode... it will look pretty crappy in a lot of apps.

cypello
08-19-2010, 05:54 PM
press ctrl+shift+r
close keyboard
DONE

Note though that Maemo 5 does not fully support portrait mode... it will look pretty crappy in a lot of apps.

@cfh11: = i saw that into a clip from youtube, but i wanna know if portrait mode with that key combinations works and for the SMS? Or only for email?

Venemo
08-20-2010, 05:14 AM
@ venemo: OK, thx, so...the order is this... do like it the clip, install braek, and then disable all extras, correct? to not have any unaspected problems with the phone?! Disabling all extras the stability is much higher than if all the extras remains enabled, correct?!

Nope.
Have Extras enabled, but Extras-testing and Extras-devel disabled.

@ venemo: and if i dont have in the updates extra-testing, i have to create him, than install Braek, and then disable extra testing, right?

Right.

and about what user ZAS says up: "Since you can force an application to portrait mode with ctrl+shift+r is it possible to do that in xterm say: ossofilemanager --portrait" = what do you think, do you know this method? is it possible...and more easy?!

I dunno. I don't think it is worth bothering with, though. 90% of the time I use my N900 in landscape, with keyboard open. (The remaining 10% is the Phone app.)

Zas
08-21-2010, 08:22 AM
I dunno. I don't think it is worth bothering with, though. 90% of the time I use my N900 in landscape, with keyboard open. (The remaining 10% is the Phone app.)
I use portrait for long lists like contacts, app. manager etc. It would be useful to force portrait support in the .desktop entries.

fadimck
08-21-2010, 05:10 PM
i disagree the Portrait mode is a perfect choice to have

zeebra
05-12-2011, 05:16 AM
its useful to have portrait mode. auto portrait mod on rotation for the apps would be great, in addition many apps that doesn't have portrait mode should have it, mostly those that features long lists, like app manager.

guisoliver
06-03-2012, 09:58 PM
How i can have the desktop running in portrait mode?