Video format

[Manu]

Hi,
What kind of video format is "readable" by the 770 player. .Mov and .mpg4 are not supported

[tzeta]

I found a list which video/audio/image formats are the supported in Nokia 770. list can be found here:

http://tinyurl.com/99kor

[pycage]

My experience showed that the Nokia 770 cannot play any video I give to it, unless it has been encoded specially. And even then it has problems with long videos (read: movies).
Encoding instructions can be found in the Wiki:

http://maemo.org/maemowiki/VideoEncoding

I hope the player will be improved...

[Maerra]

Mpeg1 works just fine in my 770.
Problem: because I think that mpeg4-files are smaller than mpeg1-files, I tried some Windows programs to convert DVD/mpeg2-files to mpeg4 with both of subformats DivX and XviD, but they don't work in my 770.
770's demo file IceAge2_trailer.avi is DivX 352x208 and naturally it plays in 770. So 770 is able to play mpeg4s/DivX's and my problem seems to be the conversion to DivX.

Has anybody succeeded to make (in 770) playable DivX- or XviD-files? (Instructions in maemo-wiki are for Linux-PC.)
If so, which (Windows) converter and which codec? (mpeg2 to mpeg4)

[Bill]

I gave it a couple of tries with the windows port of Mencoder using both the settings of the maemo wiki and www.cybersystem.de, neither resulted in video files which could be run in the 770's video player. It attempts to load the file, shows the length and then
gives an error message. I think most of nokia's dev team efforts went into the browser,
which works beautifully IMHO, quite a few of the other apps are still somewhat buggy.
I hope they will release an update in the near future.

[konttori]

I have and I haven't had any problems. I've used mencoder. Just remember to keep bitrate nice and easy at cap 300 for video.

[daf]

maybe a port of other applications like xine or mplayer on nokia 770 would help to watch videos...

[andymulhearn]

My experience showed that the Nokia 770 cannot play any video I give to it, unless it has been encoded specially. And even then it has problems with long videos (read: movies).
Encoding instructions can be found in the Wiki:

http://maemo.org/maemowiki/VideoEncoding

I hope the player will be improved...

I used the smallest settings from this page and got playable videos up to about 90 minutes (the Firefly series opener double episode). I have yet to watch them all the way through yet but they load and start and look pretty good.

[Maerra]

I have edited and made a lot of DVD=mpeg2 home videos with Ulead VideoStudio and with it is a snap to convert mpeg2 to mpeg1. I love "snap"-converters!!
Now I realize that my in 770 not-working mpeg4s' size is not smaller than mpeg1's against my privious expectations. And think that 770 videoplayer has an inherent size limitation of 352x288 pixel. So, I'm afraid that Windows mpeg4 converting is a fruitless attempt.

To confirm those thoughts:
- What is the size of 352x288 mpeg4 made by _mencoder_ (MBs per minut)(such a mpeg1 is 10 MB/min)?
- could not find Windows-MenCoder! For Linux/Mac platforms only. PC-Linux is too heavy addition for me. So, is there somewhere a (hopefully "snap") Win-mencoder?

[konttori]

you can use different settings. 300kbps+64 for audio is very good quality. it will result in 2.7 MB/min. I use 128+42 for series like joey, which results in 1.2MB/min. the quality isn't that good, but good enough for stand-up.

[konttori]

oh and i use windows mencoder.

[konttori]

Although I use command line, I've also tested Mewig.
It's GUI based mencoder.
There's a quickstart info page at:
http://mewig.sourceforge.net/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=3

And you can download it from:
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=120333

I suggest installing it to c:\mewig instead of c:\program files\mewig, as for some reason it has problems creating the commandline options for mencoder when the path to the mewig exe contains line breaks.

On a positive note, you can set it to convert entire directories at time, which nicely allows you to e.g. convert one season of a series in one swift stroke.

If you want more control, make prelimenary options for mewig in the gui, and then edit the rest in the bat file it creates.

[Maerra]

Oh thanks, konttori, but before MeWIG-settings, bitrates etc:
- generally, the bitrate flowing from the videofile should be a very good measure for the quality of that videofile.
- to compare: 770's (15 fps only, but looks very nice) demo videofile's (IceAge2) size 8 MB, lasting 95 sec, gives only ca 600 kbps bitrate.
- it would be interesting to know what bitrate 770 can handle, which is nowhere (=?) specified. Maybe it just that 1150 kbps, because 770 shows some instabilities with my 1150 kbps mpeg1s.

[Maerra]

Sorry, konttori, problems:
- MeWig site has instructions but obviously for an older version
- tried a lot to find working settings by guessing: too little info what are the meanings of various settings
- nothing happens when clicking "encode"
- no .bat/config-file appears
- no (error) messages, except (before MeWig launches) about missing config-file: what to do? (I have ffdshow-codecs installed)

[andymulhearn]

I'm going to keep pushing DVD Catalyst from www.pocketdvc.ca until someone admits they've tried it :)

[konttori]

I put an example bat here for you. Open the zip. Copy the bat to some folder. Open the bat in notepad and change the mencoder location to your mewig installation location. Then just change the input and output files in the bat, save it and double click on the bat once you're done.

[konttori]

I just thought to make it all easier on you. Here's a zip with two bats. One for 16:9 and one for 4:3. Unzip it to your desktop. Open both in notepad if your mewig installation is not in c:\program files and edit to correct path. Then save the bat, close notepad, take any divx file and dragndrop it to 16:9 or 4:3 bat. It will make a file with same name +.nokia770.avi at the end to the same location your original avi was in.

Should work like a charm.

[Maerra]

Sorry, konttori, but I think that we work on different platforms. I don't understand what are these .bat-files. Do I need them when I use MeWiG with MS-Windows which looks like (and should be for me) a "snap"-converter. I suppose the problem is missing configuration-file MeWiG-config.xlm, which is thus .xlm not .bat.
BTW. does mencode/MeWiG convert .avi's only, I have (now) DVD_mpeg2 home videos only.

[konttori]

.bat is a like a script language for ms windows.

mencoder converts dvd:s as well. You can use mewig to create a bat for you for those purposes, although atleast I had to modify the resulting bat.

Mewig basically makes a bat for you and executes the bat. It's sole purpose is to help you make it without knowing how to make one. Oh, and it also automatically executes the bat.

[Maerra]

OK konttori, Windows-MeWiG-GUI is working now .... well, from me the installation and working settings demanded some extra motivation.
It gives from DVD/mpeg2-files nice mpeg4-files in both subformats DivX and XviD when seen on my PC.
But none of them plays in 770!
What could be the crucial MeWiG-setting(s) for playing in 770?