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maven1975

11-08-2009, 04:35 PM

This will be my first Nokia device and was wondering what those of you that have been around the Nokia camp thought on this issue.

Thanks in advance!

pspbricker

11-08-2009, 04:44 PM

Can someone put this one to bed quickly by answering;

a) Is the N900 CAPABLE of MMS? Why do I remember reading something about it being something to do with missing stacks. Personally I couldn't care less about MMS, never use it - just curious.

b) If capable, then it should be an easy enough process developing an app for MMS if Nokia don't support it directly?

frals

11-08-2009, 04:53 PM

No word on wether Nokia will do it or not - the community is planning on doing it though!

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=32129

In short, the thing it's not capable of atm is maintaining connections to both the MMSC and whatever other connection you happen to have open at the time (ie 3G data or whatever). If you read the link above (the last few pages) we have a few community members hacking away (quite succesfully by the looks, so far) at implementing this.

No promises, but I do hope to have basic MMS support in before new year (i.e. send/receive when not using a data connection currently). :)

asys3

11-08-2009, 04:54 PM

Hey guys,

do you really think Nokia won't support MMS?
The world's largests mobile phone company?

Oh no - the answer is: The N900 is a mobile computer with some phone capabilities.
And MMS is for sure not a feature to have implemented at the first step.
So I think they better use their manpower concentrating on other features first.

But ....wait and see. I think MMS will come in a future firmware version.

asys3

maven1975

11-08-2009, 04:58 PM

Nice to know.

I have never owned a device with such support. Within the last 4 years, I have been on iPhones and a Palm Pre.

Looking forward to a breath of fresh air. I just hope T-Mobile works well in my area as this will be my personal/business all in one phone.

matteone

11-09-2009, 05:38 AM

Just a Questione : But if you have full e-mail function ( with attachment and html function ) ... What you need to use mms ?

dtrouton

11-09-2009, 05:44 AM

Just a Questione : But if you have full e-mail function ( with attachment and html function ) ... What you need to use mms ?

To send pictures to people with mobile phones, who don't use email (eg my mum!). Also to receive pictures from those people (although some operators will text you a link to the picture on the web)

Boke

11-09-2009, 05:50 AM

The problem IMO is not sending MMS since you can send emails, but recieving MMS...

doksng

11-09-2009, 05:52 AM

Used to be a fun feature some years back, but cant remember when last I used it.
It is still a feature that some might use.

Red

11-09-2009, 06:04 AM

Fargus

11-09-2009, 06:07 AM

Just a Questione : But if you have full e-mail function ( with attachment and html function ) ... What you need to use mms ?

With a lot of UK carriers international roaming charges are cheaper for MMS than text in USA!

matteone

11-09-2009, 06:43 AM

My mother still sends me pictures from wherever she happens to be that day if she spots something worth snapping. It's a simple and intuitive way to send something.

Take Picture-> Press Send -> Press "by MMS" -> Select Recipient -> Send it .
From my perspective I just receive a mesage on my phone with a picture in it. I don't have to connect to the web, I don't have to download it from a link, it's just there.

With the N900 you can share your photo just pushing two buttons via Bluetooth , e-mail and also Ovi by Nokia, Flickr and Facebook.

So your mam can share to you and also to other people her photo :-).

Everithing using the data connection, withouse use mms and withous spends a lot of money. Here in Italiy 1 mms costs 1 euro.

:-)

robbie

11-09-2009, 08:03 AM

Everithing using the data connection, withouse use mms and withous spends a lot of money. Here in Italiy 1 mms costs 1 euro.

:-)

Same here in .nl. Screw the MMS feature. I will never use it. Put effort in other things (like multiple calendar integration).

dtrouton

11-09-2009, 08:12 AM

Same here in .nl. Screw the MMS feature. I will never use it. Put effort in other things (like multiple calendar integration).

Over 500 million MMS messages were sent last year in the UK alone. (Source (http://digital-lifestyles.info/2009/02/17/text-and-mms-messaging-continues-to-grow/))

Just because you don't use it, doesn't mean other people don't. It's the only way many of us have to exchange quick pictures with family member who don't, and won't, own a high end smart phone/MID.

It's also a big source of revenue for operators. If we want them to subsidise Maemo devices it's something you need to think about.

mece

11-09-2009, 08:49 AM

With the N900 you can share your photo just pushing two buttons via Bluetooth , e-mail and also Ovi by Nokia, Flickr and Facebook.

So your mam can share to you and also to other people her photo :-).

Of those mentioned only bluetooth does what mms does, and bluetooth has some pretty obvious limitations.

MMS is used to send a picture to one person and they receive it immediately. That's it. If it cost 1 € it's completely pointless naturally (40 cents with TIM though, still way too expensive) but with my operator here in finland it's 6 cents, the same as an sms, so it's pretty useful if you need to show something right away.

Either way I really think it's a useful service since not everyone is instantly reachable by email or im.

robbie

11-09-2009, 03:48 PM

It's also a big source of revenue for operators. If we want them to subsidise Maemo devices it's something you need to think about.

I ordered my N900 without an operator. I hate to be tied to a company. And the big revenue is exactly the reason why i won't use it. It's waaaaay overpriced. People should know that.

bandora

11-09-2009, 04:07 PM

dammsaint

11-10-2009, 09:57 AM

Ummm MMS? is this a realy usefull function? i never send a mms on my entire life, im from dominican republic and 1 sms cost around 0.95 dominican peso (us $0.02 dollar) and a mms cost $50 dominican peso (us$1.38 dollar).

I think if you cant send mms just send an email, if the other person cant receive email on the phone so he needs to wait arrive home and get the email pictures on the pc. Its simple.

sorry for my english.

count zero

11-10-2009, 10:27 AM

Ummm MMS? is this a realy usefull function?

I order rail tickets with my phone and get a code sent by mms.
At the train the mms code is scanned.
So I can use my phone as a ticket saving me some time because I can buy my ticket on the go and not at the station.

That's why mms is important and usefull for me.

migs

11-10-2009, 10:36 AM

I agree mms is very important indeed, not everyone we know will have a N900's other people that dont have smartphones will still be sending us mms messages

amyhu

12-01-2009, 03:13 AM

Hi, all
I read some material said that Maemo 5 does not support MMS yet, Is this true? Because now I have no N900 device, cannot verify that. I anyone know, please share me. Thanks a lot!

hihai411

12-01-2009, 03:19 AM

currently the n900 does not have mms support.Hopefully we will see this support soon with an update, that and portrait mode.

amyhu

12-01-2009, 03:26 AM

You mean Portrait mode is not supported either, so do you know when will it support?

Venomrush

12-01-2009, 03:27 AM

You mean Portrait mode is not supported either, so do you know when will it support?

Next firmware update, due to release before Christmas

Why do you want to use MMS to send poor quality images captured on a 5mp camera?
Why MMS when you have 3G connection to upload them online?

MMS is old-tech which should be phased out.

I sent 2 MMS maybe in the past 3 years?

phase315

12-01-2009, 03:34 AM

amyhu

12-01-2009, 03:40 AM

well it's not because we want to old technology, when we have our powerful n900's with 3g capability to access flickr or any other multimedia source online, it's because 80 percent of our friends are still stuck in old technology....

Yep, I can't agree with you any more!

hihai411

12-01-2009, 03:41 AM

You have to remember not everyone has a powerful smartphone. I still know people that use Razr's and sometimes when they see something funny or weird thats their only way of transmitting a photo quickly and easily. Having mms comes in handy until all dumbphones are phased out.

somedude

12-01-2009, 03:42 AM

Hi, all
I read some material said that Maemo 5 does not support MMS yet, Is this true? Because now I have no N900 device, cannot verify that. I anyone know, please share me. Thanks a lot!

welcome aboard, where have you been living this long to find and post about this today?:p

phase315

12-01-2009, 03:44 AM

Yes, there is nothing I hate more than my friends sending me "mms" pictures, the size of my pinky nail, to ask for my opinion on their outfit -.-'

hihai411

12-01-2009, 03:50 AM

haha that is very true.

jsa

12-01-2009, 03:54 AM

You mean Portrait mode is not supported either, so do you know when will it support?

Next firmware update, due to release before Christmas

You do realise that only portrait mode for the browser has been promised, not that everything would work in portrait? People are going to be let down if they're told that it's all going to be there when it necessarily isn't.

maxximuscool

12-01-2009, 04:00 AM

MMS may be possible in the future updates, Portrait also may be possible in the future up date as well. Both are not out of the possibilities.

ossipena

12-01-2009, 04:07 AM

ChristianAC

12-01-2009, 05:26 AM

Why do you want to use MMS to send poor quality images captured on a 5mp camera?

Just because you can receive MMS from your airline, which makes it
very easy to check in.

Just hold the MMS over the scanner und you are checked in.

Regards

Christian

quackers

12-01-2009, 08:55 AM

I still cannot believe MMS was left out

According to this site, http://blog.return2sender.ie/category/Picture-Messaging-(MMS).aspx

In Ireland alone, in the 3rd Quarter 2008 10.5 Million MMS messages were sent. I even had my aunt laugh at me because my new state of the art phone could not even do a picture message. ( I had to hide my head in shame) I use to send my nan the occasional MMS as she has no computer, now i cannot.

I still cannot believe people think uploading a picture to a website is a viable alternative, the whole point of MMS is no matter where the other person is, could be in a shop, their phone goes BEEP BEEP (they are alerted to the picture)and they see the picture or video without any messing around. Can you imagine sending a e-mail instead of an SMS? It could be 2 minutes or 2 days before its noticed, but generally people have the phones on them or around them all the time.

range

12-01-2009, 08:57 AM

You mean Portrait mode is not supported either, so do you know when will it support?

Next firmware update, due to release before Christmas

That is simply not true. The browser(!) will get portrait mode in the next update, not the complete OS.

ossipena

12-01-2009, 08:59 AM

I still cannot believe MMS was left out

it is coming.

Pedrolot

12-01-2009, 09:01 AM

it is coming.

Officially? Or Unofficially?

ossipena

12-01-2009, 09:05 AM

Officially? Or Unofficially?

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=32129
http://maemo.org/community/brainstorm/view/mms_support/
http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:MMS

tzsm98

12-01-2009, 11:58 PM

Yes, there is nothing I hate more than my friends sending me "mms" pictures, the size of my pinky nail, to ask for my opinion on their outfit -.-'

The cure for that is to tell them, "No it's not the outfit, your butt IS big."

Andraeseus

12-02-2009, 03:58 PM

Next firmware update, due to release before Christmas

Why do you want to use MMS to send poor quality images captured on a 5mp camera?
Why MMS when you have 3G connection to upload them online?

MMS is old-tech which should be phased out.

I sent 2 MMS maybe in the past 3 years?

tv along with landlines are also old techs but they are still very useful. mms allows me to send and receive pics in close to real time of actual events with a minimum amount of effort. Usually 1 to 2 button presses. also it allows the receiver to instantly access the picture (or short audio blurb) by pressing one button on thier handset. PLUS .. aside from cell phone enthusiasts, there are lots of people (that i know of) who do not have accounts with Flickr, Vox, Ovi, etc... besides even if they did it would take a considerable amount of due process to access those accounts from most hand sets and even more to register for new accounts. Once they do finally access it, they now have to download it to thier cell phones. That's too much when the tech to do it more easily has been around for so long it's considered old technology. Even if they are not mobile enthusiasts or avid bloggers or into file sharing via online sites like t-zones and myspace or facebook I am pretty sure they are into receiving photos even if it is via (old technology) MMS. Also even though lots of phones support email and instant messaging and things like that it isn't always practical and can be some times painful to retrieve those photo files that way. My mother has a cell phone she is over 50 and doesn't even know what a face book is. But I promise you she knows exactly what a picture is and how to press open when she hears the alert tone on her small low end cell phone indicating a new MMS has been received. I agree that MMS should be phased out but only because a more far Superior tech has been created. eg: the ability to send MMS faster and with larger files but not simply to do away with it all together because for some of us its our only way to send Pic's and for some its the only practical way to receive.the pic's. The Pic's I take with my nokia n95 show up brilliantly on even those lil crappy phones (maybe not as nice as on mine but still..) i send MMS often to lots of different people and now that i have the n900 i am considering returning it before my 14day return period is up simply because i cant share pics in a reasonable fashion with my family and friends

twaelti

12-02-2009, 04:56 PM

I just missed the message about and picture of my friend's newborn because this darn (but otherwise superfantastic :-) N900 doesn't do MMS!

WE WANT MMS! Otherwise, Nokia is SO into telecomms standards I really don't get it why they missed out on that.

Alex Atkin UK

12-02-2009, 05:04 PM

I still find it amazing so many people use MMS. I have sent perhaps 4 MMS messages ever, not one of them was ever read because the people I sent them to never configured their phone to support MMS.

MMS always seemed to be great it principle but a really poorly implemented feature in reality.

wire-less

12-02-2009, 05:36 PM

Love this discussions.
People pick one missing feature and make a big
story out of it.
This is the first realy usable web-phone with every
piece of hardware inside you can imagine and people
discuss MMS. :confused:
This phone works great. Plugged Battery in synchronized
with Outlook. Immediately usable. Configured email.
Took photo. Gps tagged. Add label. Sent per mail.
No RTFM.

What is MMS? Is it supported by my mobile operator.
What is the price? What is the price when sender/receiver
is on another net/country. Does the receiver and his handy
understand MMS.
How to send an MMS to a netbook

Email/Web is universal usable. MMS is a mobile phone thingy.

Venomrush

12-02-2009, 06:05 PM

pixelgeek

12-03-2009, 08:04 AM

I think most of the people here in this forum, have no big need in MMS themself... But everybody here has to deal with other persons, who don't have a N900, and the only option they have to share images is using an MMS.
So imo the ability to receive and display MMS is much more important then to write and send MMS...

0Dark Knight0

12-03-2009, 08:22 AM

of course is very important to discuss about missing feature MMS,,

cos some people around the world they don't have internet, and relaying totally on MMS...

Second, easy to send from your server,,,,instead going to internet, connection, check signal, then open email,,after that send attached photo..

MMS still easy method to send pic.

thnx

backwoods

12-08-2009, 09:23 PM

Will the N900 ever be able to support MMS?

God

12-08-2009, 09:27 PM

That was the dealbreaker for me.

I doubt it will, but could be possible

Kozzi

12-08-2009, 09:28 PM

it will, Nokia promised it and I don't think maemo.org is going to let that "not" happen.

backwoods

12-08-2009, 09:31 PM

thanks for the info

mikkov

12-08-2009, 09:45 PM

it will, Nokia promised

You need provide some URL to prove this one.

God

12-08-2009, 09:47 PM

Nokia promised mms? :S new to me...

Source?

Andre Klapper

12-09-2009, 03:25 AM

it will, Nokia promised it and I don't think maemo.org is going to let that "not" happen.

This is covered by at least 5 other threads already and I don't think you will find new answers by opening a sixth one. ;-)
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=site%3Atalk.maemo.org+n900+mms

Please do search before posting. Thanks.

Andre Klapper

12-09-2009, 03:26 AM

Will the N900 ever be able to support MMS?

I'm a bit afraid (or tired?) that posting the same feature request for several times slowly turns it into "but Nokia has promised it!!!" after a while without any real proof for that.
As written before: Please show me a single proof of that "promise".

Andre Klapper

12-09-2009, 03:27 AM

Garr. Early morning, and I mixed up my answers and the postings that I responded to. Sigh. :-)

Zelig87

12-09-2009, 03:30 AM

You can use the edit button.......

Lazarpandar

12-09-2009, 03:38 AM

I don't trust anyone who has been thanked as much as they've posted >__>, commie.

tso

12-09-2009, 03:44 AM

to add some fuel to the fire, the hangup is that nokia is waiting for some networking patches to clear the kernel code before they add MMS.

i suspect that if the N900 had not been exposed at phone-review.com, nokia could have hold of the launch of the product until said patches had made it into the kernel, and they could have gotten the client part ready.

hell, it would not surprise me if nokia have the client code for MMS sitting on some git server, just waiting to be compiled and pushed to repo.

noobmonkey

12-09-2009, 04:21 AM

You can use the edit button.......

that would just be boring now wouldnt it ;)

God

12-09-2009, 03:31 PM

No mms!!!!! Bullshiat!

sjgadsby

12-09-2009, 03:43 PM

Threads merged.

God

12-09-2009, 03:56 PM

Who do u fink u r mergin?! Huh!??! Huh?!!?!