Adobe Flash Player 10: When will the update arrive? Is it coming at all?

[ed00]

...sad story of Flash player and N900...

[DrWilken]

Seriously... STOP WHINING! :)

Flash 10 from TI isn't a step up compared to using a tweaked Flash 9.4.

99% of people here just need "Flash 10 functionality" to see YouTube links on FaceBook anyway, and that works fine with the tweaked Flash 9.4...

End of Story... ;)

[elie-7]

For Firefox, need to enable manual in order to enable the flash.
Under URL key in about:config, search plugin.make sure the below 2 option is set to FALSE.

i) plugin.default_plugin_disabled
ii) plugin.disable

Using flash 10 from TI with Firefox cause the browse to be automatically closed once you click to any tab or link in web that running flash 10 such www.wix.com and same scenario goes to www.flashearth.com.

The best is using Firefox with the tweakflash.

dude that didn't work with me using the ff 4 b3, how can i enable flash on ff 4 b3 ?

[danramos]

Seriously... STOP WHINING! :)

Flash 10 from TI isn't a step up compared to using a tweaked Flash 9.4.

99% of people here just need "Flash 10 functionality" to see YouTube links on FaceBook anyway, and that works fine with the tweaked Flash 9.4...

End of Story... ;)

Why do you come to this thread, knowing that's pretty much what you'll see? I laugh EVERY time I see one of these 'stop whining' comments on a thread that clearly will contain such demands for updates, upgrades and software that isn't available. :) I am, by no means, telling you to stop saying it--I get great entertainment from the back-and-forthing but it still boggles me. :)

[DrWilken]

Why do you come to this thread, knowing that's pretty much what you'll see? I laugh EVERY time I see one of these 'stop whining' comments on a thread that clearly will contain such demands for updates, upgrades and software that isn't available. :) I am, by no means, telling you to stop saying it--I get great entertainment from the back-and-forthing but it still boggles me. :)

I'm glad You feel entertained... ;)

[sjgadsby]

Why do you come to this thread, knowing that's pretty much what you'll see?

If it weren't for calling out for others to take action in ways fantastically unlikely ever to occur, these forums would be a ghost town.

[jackjohn]

dude that didn't work with me using the ff 4 b3, how can i enable flash on ff 4 b3 ?


BRO,

Sorry Forgot to add. Before you proceed with the below step. under Firefox add ons, you need to DISABLE THE "YOUTUBE ENABLER".

For Firefox, need to enable manual in order to enable the flash.
Under URL key in about:config, search plugin.make sure the below 2 option is set to FALSE.

i) plugin.default_plugin_disabled
ii) plugin.disable

*** BOTH plugin.disable and plugin.default_plugin_disabled will become BOLD ONCE ITS BEEN SET TO FALSE.

[gerbick]

If it weren't for calling out for others to take action in ways fantastically unlikely ever to occur, these forums would be a ghost town.

And who do you blame for that? Curious.

[samipower]

it is incredible.

flash 9 pr 1.3 you can see youtube videos into youtube page only 240p but in other web pages youtube-links-videos 360p you can see it. why happen it??

i think that with flash 9 i should can see a 480p youtube videos into youtube page because with mediabox h.264 or cutetube 480x270 you can see

but flash 9 censored???

flash 10.1 tweak flash bad solution ,it is not real .videos are not playing

flash 10.1 ti bad solution red line and reboots

sad story for n900

android have a 10.1.108 december 2010 new version why????

n900 1ghz cpu and 520dsp . is it little??

nitdroid 1.0 gingerbread will the solution . i think

[xboxsky]

it is incredible.

flash 9 pr 1.3 you can see youtube videos into youtube page only 240p but in other web pages youtube-links-videos 360p you can see it. why happen it??

i think that with flash 9 i should can see a 480p youtube videos into youtube page because with mediabox h.264 or cutetube 480x270 you can see

but flash 9 censored???

flash 10.1 tweak flash bad solution ,it is not real .videos are not playing

flash 10.1 ti bad solution red line and reboots

sad story for n900

android have a 10.1.108 december 2010 new version why????

n900 1ghz cpu and 520dsp . is it little??

nitdroid 1.0 gingerbread will the solution . i think

Hey, you can actually get YouTube videos in higher resolutions (Even 720p, albeit very slow and glitchy) all you need to do is use the "Tweak Flash Plugin" and set it to "Flash 10.1 Linux Desktop" and then use "Hide User Agent" and set it to "Mozilla Firefox" then reboot phone and go to www.youtube.com (not m.youtube.com) and you can choose any resolution! :D (I was very much enjoying high resolution YouTube until I smashed my screen yesterday :( )

[Laughing Man]

it is incredible.

flash 9 pr 1.3 you can see youtube videos into youtube page only 240p but in other web pages youtube-links-videos 360p you can see it. why happen it??

i think that with flash 9 i should can see a 480p youtube videos into youtube page because with mediabox h.264 or cutetube 480x270 you can see

but flash 9 censored???

flash 10.1 tweak flash bad solution ,it is not real .videos are not playing

flash 10.1 ti bad solution red line and reboots

sad story for n900

android have a 10.1.108 december 2010 new version why????

n900 1ghz cpu and 520dsp . is it little??

nitdroid 1.0 gingerbread will the solution . i think

As far as I know, the flash for Android devices (specifically the Droid which is closest to the N900 in term of specs) isn't much better.

[samipower]

xbosky i installed tweak flash 0.4 pr 1.3 and flash 10.1 linux select but in browser n900 youtube only 240p . are you saying in mozilla firefox beta 3-4 or in n900 browser native??

and hide user agent where is this option?? thanks

edit: oh i am sorry

user agent app ok i remember now.

but with native browser and any user agent in special???

[casketizer]

BRO,

Sorry Forgot to add. Before you proceed with the below step. under Firefox add ons, you need to DISABLE THE "YOUTUBE ENABLER".

For Firefox, need to enable manual in order to enable the flash.
Under URL key in about:config, search plugin.make sure the below 2 option is set to FALSE.

i) plugin.default_plugin_disabled
ii) plugin.disable

*** BOTH plugin.disable and plugin.default_plugin_disabled will become BOLD ONCE ITS BEEN SET TO FALSE.

I uninstalled youtube enabler then plugin.disable became visible. But I cant find plugin.default_plugin_disabled. Do I have to add it? Using ff 4b4pre

[samipower]

xbosky very thanks i played youtube video 240p-360p-480p-720p with your steps

[ed00]

Seriously... STOP WHINING! :)

Flash 10 from TI isn't a step up compared to using a tweaked Flash 9.4.

99% of people here just need "Flash 10 functionality" to see YouTube links on FaceBook anyway, and that works fine with the tweaked Flash 9.4...

End of Story... ;)

Apparently according to you seems that those 99% thinks that world evolve around Youtube & Facebook well that i would say totally f...ed up thing. Well of course untill next " big " thing will come out. But i dont give a damn thing about nether of those. Im prefer to be in that 1% ;)

[attila77]

flash 10.1 tweak flash bad solution ,it is not real .videos are not playing


Tweak flash version is a specific tool for a specific need, and it *does* address the problem it was written for.

nitdroid 1.0 gingerbread will the solution . i think

The solution is to have Flash plugin sources/release process that is open, otherwise you're a hostage of business interests, marketing and bad coders, regardless if your platform is Android, iOS, Maemo or MeeGo. The Open Screen Project was a nice idea, but it turned out to be smoke and mirrors.

[jackjohn]

I uninstalled youtube enabler then plugin.disable became visible. But I cant find plugin.default_plugin_disabled. Do I have to add it? Using ff 4b4pre

bro not unstall "youtube enabler" but just disable. The plugin should be there.

[casketizer]

bro not unstall "youtube enabler" but just disable. The plugin should be there.

When the YT Enabler was installed but disabled neither of the two plugin.* keys were there. After uninstalling YTE plugins.disabled is there, the other is not.

[elie-7]

bro not unstall "youtube enabler" but just disable. The plugin should be there.

dude this is how it looks on ff4b3 or ff 4b4

[casketizer]

dude this is how it looks on ff4b3 or ff 4b4

If you uninstall YT Enabler plugin.dsiabled should appear. At least it did here. Using latest nightly build 4b4.

[elie-7]

If you uninstall YT Enabler plugin.dsiabled should appear. At least it did here. Using latest nightly build 4b4.

i don't have youtube enabler .

[casketizer]

i don't have youtube enabler .

weird. dont know then....

edit:
try searching for plugin. (mind the dot) in about:config

[xboxsky]

xbosky very thanks i played youtube video 240p-360p-480p-720p with your steps
Glad to help, maybe you want to lovingly click the thanks button lol :D

[elie-7]

damm it now firefox is telling me something went wrong displaying the web page after i've played with some settings, anyone knows how to completly delete firefox with all its user data ?

[gerbick]

As far as I know, the flash for Android devices (specifically the Droid which is closest to the N900 in term of specs) isn't much better.

I got the Samsung Captivate and the Flash performance is quite nice. Better than the N900 and I'm using a Froyo firmware without incident.

[samipower]

My video with youtube all resolutions 240p 360p 480p 720p 1080p
n900 850mhz/450dsp when i ran it.

the video start to 22 seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkLw_pWz6V8

[elie-7]

never mind guys i fixed it, now back to about:config searching for plugin. shows one of the 2 options i should set to false, whats the solution ?

[samipower]

Better option run more fast that in my first video here published

tweak flash choose froyo option and

in user agent

Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.2; es-es; Nexus One Build/FRF50) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/533.1

and run more fast in 360p run perfect but n900 900mhz or higher

[attila77]

I got the Samsung Captivate and the Flash performance is quite nice. Better than the N900 and I'm using a Froyo firmware without incident.

Considering the Samsung packs ~2x the CPU and GPU power it's telling more about HW differences than the quality of the Flash player port.

[Temporal]

I wish I could play ederon, or at least load the game to be able to buy boosters with discounts. This is the kind of game that requires flash 10 (true flash 10), and having only my n900 as computer... I'm not able to.
Any of the lucky ones that got the file from Texas Instruments, could you try to play ederon?

[gerbick]

Considering the Samsung packs ~2x the CPU and GPU power it's telling more about HW differences than the quality of the Flash player port.

Then comments that the Flash performance is not better on Android than the N900 need to stop. It's simply not true on all accounts.

And I'm not talking about the $99 Android phones either. N900 didn't cost $99 when it came out, now did it?

[attila77]

Then comments that the Flash performance is not better on Android than the N900 need to stop. It's simply not true on all accounts.

And I'm not talking about the $99 Android phones either. N900 didn't cost $99 when it came out, now did it?

The guy whom you replied to, explicitly said "specifically the Droid which is closest to the N900 in term of specs". The Droid didn't cost 99$ off-contract either. I could also compare the N900 Flash to the HTC Hero and say it runs circles around it, but that wouldn't be fair to Android either, would it ?

[gerbick]

The guy whom you replied to, explicitly said "specifically the Droid which is closest to the N900 in term of specs". The Droid didn't cost 99$ off-contract either. I could also compare the N900 Flash to the HTC Hero and say it runs circles around it, but that wouldn't be fair to Android either, would it ?

Let's go apples to apples for a moment then. The Droid got Flash Player 10. It works pretty darn nicely. The N900 never officially got FP10. And what it did get, runs reportedly very slow and buggy.

Now, with that said, who brought FP10 to the Droid? Adobe? No. Google? No. Motorola. Yes.

Nokia hasn't done that. And the statements that FP10 is not as good on Android as it is at version 9.4 is quite wrong in so many different ways; and in order to avoid petty semantics or whatever nitpick methods to prove a very minor point utilized by people on this board, I discounted the usage of the $99 Android phones that people point to that didn't get updates past 1.6 or don't have FP10 or don't have a good GPU or CPU as compared to the Droid or my aforementioned Captivate.

So with that said, what is your point? It works on other platforms just fine.

[Laughing Man]

Let's go apples to apples for a moment then. The Droid got Flash Player 10. It works pretty darn nicely. The N900 never officially got FP10. And what it did get, runs reportedly very slow and buggy.


The only other option would be that my best friend (Droid user) must have an out-dated version of Flash 10. I doubt it, considering his technical background. His phone can't be that badly customized either. I have seen Flash on the other Android smartphones (coworker has a Vibrant, best friend's girlfriend has a Captivate) and it works quite well on those devices though.

[gerbick]

The only other option would be that my best friend (Droid user) must have an out-dated version of Flash 10. I doubt it, considering his technical background. His phone can't be that badly customized either. I have seen Flash on the other Android smartphones (coworker has a Vibrant, best friend's girlfriend has a Captivate) and it works quite well on those devices though.

So far, my experience on the Droid (original) was that FP10 worked on all but one just fine. The one that wasn't working too well, I trimmed some of the startup services - via AutoStarts - and it was fine after that.

That's a comparison of about... 7 Droids, only one was bad.

[Laughing Man]

His Flash 10 works similar to how the Flash 9.4 worked on the N900 before websites started "requiring" Flash 10 (or whatever works with Tweak Flash). Not sure how his performs on Flash 10 specific content/features compared to the N900's non-function on Flash 10 specific content/features since we didn't try any. Last thing he showed me was watching Hulu via Skyfire. I think that's how he views most heavy flash based content nowadays.

[gerbick]

Flash content that requires FP10 would be based around DRM based media served up via Flash Media Server, 3D, bitmap effects (most are FP9 compatible) and many other updates to the FP framework that include stuff built in Flash Builder (Flex 4 SDK) or Flash Catalyst.

Thus... I need FP10. Can't use Flash Tweak since I'm using true libraries that require FP10.

[philbelfast]

if it aint coming it aint coming.. simples. save your energy & use it for something productive people.

[danramos]

if it aint coming it aint coming.. simples. save your energy & use it for something productive people.

WHOO! Another one. :) Maybe I should add this to the drinking game?

"Flash isn't/ain't coming! Stop your whining!"
>DRINK!<

[attila77]

Now, with that said, who brought FP10 to the Droid? Adobe? No. Google? No. Motorola. Yes.

Actually that's a Yes, Yes, Yes. Adobe did most of the work because they wanted to get back at Apple, Google financed development and provided Android expertise and in the end Motorola paid the royalties. Had a single one of those lack motivation, there would be no Flash (just as it failed to materialize anything other than Android), so...

So with that said, what is your point? It works on the other platform just fine.

... fixed it for you. The point was that it is (and will be) a battle for each version of the player, for each OS version, for each device. Flash was dandy on the Maemo in the FP9 days. Flash 10.1 is dandy on (most) current Android devices. Flash 11 will be dandy on who knows what. It's a total lottery, depends on who will have the biggest $$$ case at the moment. Ceterum censeo, the current Flash Player distribution process delendam esse.

[Jack6428]

So is there any way to play 480p videos on YouTube on the N900 or not?

[mattbutsko]

This thread has gone nowhere really fast.

[gerbick]

This thread has gone nowhere really fast.

180 pages is fast?

[SavageBrat]

I must be the only one happy about the flash situation, not really a big you tube fan but mine works just fine..I added Tweak flash plug in and hide user agent and the plug-in for firefox and they both play fine..the only thing i noted is that i can't change the frame rate in firefox as it seems to stay at 240 (think that's the lowest one) but it plays fine depending on my connection, now google is a different sorry if I take out or disable the hide user agent it only lets me play at 240 with the plug-in enable it lets me play all the frame rates but the higher ones are choppy but I have a terrible wifi connection at my apartment building..

[gerbick]

Actually that's a Yes, Yes, Yes. Adobe did most of the work because they wanted to get back at Apple, Google financed development and provided Android expertise and in the end Motorola paid the royalties. Had a single one of those lack motivation, there would be no Flash (just as it failed to materialize anything other than Android), so...

Quite wrong. Adobe made it available for the vendors, it's their job to place it into either their update process (OTA or otherwise) or make it available via the app store; if at all. The vendor/manufacturer makes the final decision if it's available for their platform.

Nokia made that decision for you. They didn't make it available for whatever reason that will make people rest easy at night - didn't want to pay royalties, didn't want to test it, didn't like the performance, didn't want to pay for more optimization work by Adobe, didn't want to optimize it themselves... whatever.

Google lightened the amount of how much OS level optimization was necessary by the vendors since they're the "controllers" of the OS. Who's the controller of Maemo?

Exactly.

... fixed it for you.

Your fix is flawed. Very flawed. Other platforms got it. Why didn't Nokia?

I mean... it's a pocketable computer, right? It should be able to handle lil' ol' Flash.

The point was that it is (and will be) a battle for each version of the player, for each OS version, for each device. Flash was dandy on the Maemo in the FP9 days. Flash 10.1 is dandy on (most) current Android devices. Flash 11 will be dandy on who knows what. It's a total lottery, depends on who will have the biggest $$$ case at the moment. Ceterum censeo, the current Flash Player distribution process delendam esse.

Name one process centering around browsing the web that doesn't require finances.

Browsers? Cost money to develop and append newer technology. Plugins? The little word called progress means that research and development as well as OS optimization will always be a part of the ordeal.

There's no lottery - that's perhaps made up. The fact that the prior generation - of which the N900 is on the cusp of - got obsolete quicker than anticipated and Adobe (and many others) started to go from 400-600mhz on the ARM platform to 800-1000mhz instead was due to either: lack of ability to optimize their bloated code on slower processes, their lack of willingness to backport to a minority or machines whereas many others were coming out that were faster, or ultimately they didn't just know how.

I mean... I dunno. Should I be more pissed off that my machine I bought a year ago is no longer supported by either the manufacturer or the vendors that have taken a cue from the manufacturer and raised their requirements to possibly what that manufacturer will have out soon enough?

That last bit of communication happens mostly business to business. Adobe knew what WebOS 2 was going to bring from the OS to the hardware. Adobe knew what Android was going to bring from the OS to the hardware. Adobe didn't know that Nokia was going to do... so they finished their work, handed it off to Nokia... and nothing happened.

A lot of people are upset about not getting FP10. A lot of people are upset at the wrong people. If TI got it and is releasing it in a totally unoptimized format, then why didn't Nokia do the same? Or better yet... where is the Nokia version that Adobe handed out to them?

Those questions are the right ones. Not some hackneyed and ill-aimed inquiry that goes back to Adobe. They did the work. Just like Microsoft did the work for Mozilla pertaining H.264 and playback whereas Mozilla didn't want to pay that license.

Nokia didn't release jack. Fix that.

[elie-7]

...since they're the "controllers" of the OS. Who's the controller of Maemo?





thats a very smart question, i'll say its the awesome community over here .

[gerbick]

thats a very smart question, i'll say its the awesome community over here .

It hasn't been fully transferred to this community. Not yet.

[elie-7]

It hasn't been fully transferred to this community. Not yet.

how awesome woulded it be if they do, wouldn't we get flash 10 than ? i don't mind paying the ' royalities '

[sjgadsby]

180 pages is fast?

Naw, see, it got to nowhere fast and set up camp there.

[gerbick]

how awesome woulded it be if they do, wouldn't we get flash 10 than ? i don't mind paying the ' royalities '

Doubtful closed source items like Flash and Skype will ever see any improvement, or distribution with the community based efforts to maintain Maemo.

But you better believe items like Modest will be improved upon.

[Jack6428]

http://thenokiablog.com/2010/12/30/nokia-n900-popular-amazon-gift/

see this nokia? we deserve flash 10.1 so get your asses to work pronto!

[attila77]

Quite wrong. Adobe made it available for the vendors, it's their job to place it into either their update process (OTA or otherwise) or make it available via the app store; if at all. The vendor/manufacturer makes the final decision if it's available for their platform.

WHAT ? Adobe makes the final decision, always did, based on certification/distribution/whatever. It controls distribution of all desktop builds, and until very recently, it was Adobe who distributed the Android Flash builds, too (and still does do that for the betas).

To repeat the for the millionth time - where is that public (beta/techpreview/Idontcare) ARM Linux Flash build ?


Your fix is flawed. Very flawed. Other platforms got it. Why didn't Nokia?


Which other platforms are you talking about, not counting hacks, previews, announcements, unsanctioned builds, etc ?

I mean... it's a pocketable computer, right? It should be able to handle lil' ol' Flash.

Flash has nothing to do with computers, its bastard versions are available on basically anything.

A lot of people are upset about not getting FP10. A lot of people are upset at the wrong people. If TI got it and is releasing it in a totally unoptimized format, then why didn't Nokia do the same? Or better yet... where is the Nokia version that Adobe handed out to them?

Because TI is not releasing it, that is the problem. Their license is only for hardware OEM manufacturers. Let's say for argument's sake Nokia had the same thing (disclaimer: I have no idea if it does). It still couldn't give it to you as the Adobe T&C specifically forbids it. Back to square one.

[Turkishflavor]

So is there any way to play 480p videos on YouTube on the N900 or not?

jup, try CuteTube. :D

[abhirajsoni]

install hide user agent and then play the desktop version of youtube. you can watch 480p videos :)

[theonelaw]

...But you better believe items like Modest will be improved upon.

eeeyyyeew - good god I hope not.
I read the Modest docs+etc and it looks like something done on LSD.

There is not one thing a person could do to improve on Modest.
It is one of the most abominably misplanned projects I have seen since
the days of spaghetti code.

Only thing Modest lacks is a few goto statements.
I can think of one...:rolleyes:

BTW - before I forget - isn't this the most deplorable thread of 2010 (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67756) ?

[gerbick]

WHAT ? Adobe makes the final decision, always did, based on certification/distribution/whatever. It controls distribution of all desktop builds, and until very recently, it was Adobe who distributed the Android Flash builds, too (and still does do that for the betas).

Erm... still no. Adobe handles the port - upon vendor solicitation, they had worked with ARM for processor optimization, tailors the plugin for the platform. Beta testing - view http://labs.adobe.com - is still done by Adobe, once it is "finished" it is released to the vendor/manufacturer for their approval and implementation.

Find where Adobe has stated that they've "done the work" and it's up to Nokia to distribute it. It's been listed in this thread a few times.

What you are proposing is that a 3rd party (Adobe) has the ability to distribute, approve and push into another vendor's OS or app store an application/plugin and they're the ones that certify it... that's totally incorrect. Google approved Adobe AIR, Google approved Flash Player 10.1 - that's after QA testing and the like.

To repeat the for the millionth time - where is that public (beta/techpreview/Idontcare) ARM Linux Flash build ?

You can keep repeating all you like, there was never a public for ARM. There was a public beta for Windows, Mac, Linux - you know... the operating systems where you can install things as such. How hard is that to understand? You're going at this like the ARM based OS's are not under some form of version control to avoid the diversity that's on x86 based OS's - you know... where people can add, change, modify hardware and the OS. Each and every ARM based OS on the tablets, phones, et al are under the control of somebody else, usually the vendor. And then Adobe has to play by those rules. Everybody does... care to name one plugin that breaks this observation?

Anyway, Adobe does the work, Nokia does the implementation and distribution. Ever care to ask the better question as to where Texas Instruments got their Adobe Flash from?

Which other platforms are you talking about, not counting hacks, previews, announcements, unsanctioned builds, etc ?

Which platforms support your verbiage? Don't list Mac, Windows nor Linux. Start there.

Flash has nothing to do with computers, its bastard versions are available on basically anything.

Yet on my computer, I'm already running 10.2 beta. But on the "mobile computer" you can't even install a newer version of a plugin, get an updated version of Skype, update or maintain the BME... face it, if it's closed source on Maemo, you're SOL.

Because TI is not releasing it, that is the problem. Their license is only for hardware OEM manufacturers. Let's say for argument's sake Nokia had the same thing (disclaimer: I have no idea if it does). It still couldn't give it to you as the Adobe T&C specifically forbids it. Back to square one.

TI got it from Adobe. TI has to state that they will not distribute it based on the manufacturer of the handset and OS. Until Nokia gets off their fat arse and says "It's ok to distribute", TI and Adobe can't distribute it.

As it stands, it is unoptimized, ultimately unusable as it stands. Either Nokia needs to work on its implementation better, TI needs to optimize it better for Nokia or Adobe needs to get paid to finish the work that Nokia is unwilling to do.

You've somehow applied open source logic - public betas - and desktop OS - ability to install closed source betas and updates - to this situation.

It just doesn't fit. If you think it does, please show me where this has been allowed in the past. VLC? Silverlight? Skype? Real? Give me a place where updates and/or betas have been installable that affect another piece of software that's tied to the OS - read: browser - that supports your position.

[romanianusa]

Better option run more fast that in my first video here published

tweak flash choose froyo option and

in user agent

Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.2; es-es; Nexus One Build/FRF50) AppleWebKit/533.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0 Mobile Safari/533.1

and run more fast in 360p run perfect but n900 900mhz or higher

It's not smooth even 1.15Ghz at 360p...i dont' know where you get that idea. Some rare video play okay but most lagging.

[samipower]

i played a few videos in youtube 360p and run well, any times freezes but run well. NOT PERFECT

the perfect dont exist in this world

[romanianusa]

i played a few videos in youtube 360p and run well, any times freezes but run well. NOT PERFECT

the perfect dont exist in this world

i never question that the world is perfect...when u said the video is smooth and run smoother w certain profile , i thought u meant every video is smooth...but NOT SO! i tested out w 1.15Ghz and found out that certain videos r smooth and other r not...and still dont know why. i know its not because of bitrate difference or HD because i tested out w 2 of my videos. Both r HD n have the same bitrate and yet one play smooth while the other are not. i know if u can overclock above 1.15Ghz...it'll probably smooth for all videos but it gets too damm hot....so its not a good idea. Even playin under 1.15Ghz gets hot pretty quick.

[danramos]

You're overclocking to 1.15Ghz in an attempt to just play Flash content smoothly? You're clearly voiding warranty in a most unholy objective.

[romanianusa]

You're overclocking to 1.15Ghz in an attempt to just play Flash content smoothly? You're clearly voiding warranty in a most unholy objective.

Not really. I overclocked to play everything smoothly and it works.

[attila77]

You can keep repeating all you like, there was never a public for ARM. There was a public beta for Windows, Mac, Linux - you know... the operating systems where you can install things as such. How hard is that to understand? You're going at this like the ARM based OS's are not under some form of version control to avoid the diversity that's on x86 based OS's - you know... where people can add, change, modify hardware and the OS. Each and every ARM based OS on the tablets, phones, et al are under the control of somebody else, usually the vendor. And then Adobe has to play by those rules. Everybody does... care to name one plugin that breaks this observation?

The the question is what's so different between ARM Linux and the SAME X86 Linux that warrants different distribution and licensing deals ? Don't think Maemo if that bothers you, think ARM Ubuntu or ARM Debian - no Flash for those either. Adobe doesn't play by the distro rules, it's the distros that have to play by Adobe's rules (aka T&C) and bend backwards with all sorts of loader/installer packages.

TI got it from Adobe. TI has to state that they will not distribute it based on the manufacturer of the handset and OS. Until Nokia gets off their fat arse and says "It's ok to distribute", TI and Adobe can't distribute it.

Sorry, but that's total b*******t. Adobe could publish it (optimized or not) in non-free Extras or their own repo whenever they want to, or offer a .deb, just like they do for desktop builds. Ditto for TI - the only party they need to ask is Adobe. The notion that they somehow need Nokia's blessing is bogus, unless you mean ble$$ing for the royalties.

You've somehow applied open source logic - public betas - and desktop OS - ability to install closed source betas and updates - to this situation.

It just doesn't fit. If you think it does, please show me where this has been allowed in the past. VLC? Silverlight? Skype? Real? Give me a place where updates and/or betas have been installable that affect another piece of software that's tied to the OS - read: browser - that supports your position.

? Not sure I follow. VLC is open source, Moonlight (that *other* silverlight) also, mplayer hooks into the browser too, not to mention heavyweights like Java. And that is why IMO Flash (player) must open up or die (feel free to disagree, I'm fine with agreeing about disagreeing :) ).

But we don't need to go as far - hell, even tweakflashver does exactly what you say, it affects that Flash thingy and the browser and is in Extras. If tweakflashver can be there, so could, you know, real Flash 10.x, too (the fact that tweakflashver is open source is irrelevant - it could have been a binary blob in non-free).

[devu]

? Not sure I follow. VLC is open source, Moonlight (that *other* silverlight) also, mplayer hooks into the browser too, not to mention heavyweights like Java. And that is why IMO Flash (player) must open up or die (feel free to disagree, I'm fine with agreeing about disagreeing :) ).


I think The Steve would agree with you, take the sources make his own version and then close it again but put some black logo on it ;)


But we don't need to go as far - hell, even tweakflashver does exactly what you say, it affects that Flash thingy and the browser and is in Extras. If tweakflashver can be there, so could, you know, real Flash 10.x, too (the fact that tweakflashver is open source is irrelevant - it could have been a binary blob in non-free).

You messing up Flash content with Flash player here.

I'm using Latest Open Sourced Flex Hero SDK to buid my content. al long as I will not use anything flash 10+ specific will be playable in flash 9.

"In fact lunching *.swf directly avoiding html has the same result as you tweaker"

In addition to what gerbick is talking about I can only ask you 2 things.

1. Why you defending Nokia so hard in this case?

2. How you can explain flash 10.1 on N8 witch seems to be totally pointless because this peace of s**t is not able to play even the best optimised flash content at all smoothly.

Flash 10.1 on N8 destroyed your "Adobe conspiracy" theory long time ago actually.

[sjgadsby]

2. How you can explain flash 10.1 on N8 witch seems to be totally pointless because this peace of s**t is not able to play even the best optimised flash content at all smoothly.

Flash 10.1 on N8 destroyed your "Adobe conspiracy" theory long time ago actually.

The N8 comes with Flash Lite 4, not full Flash Player 10.1 though, doesn't it?

[devu]

The N8 comes with Flash Lite 4, not full Flash Player 10.1 though, doesn't it?

No, Friend of mine got one and entered www.flaemo.com/ctest with positive result. Flash 10.1

And here is first random link from google

http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/nokia-e7-and-nokia-n8-run-flash-10-1.html

so even E7.. but flagship n900 witch is more capable is out of lack and all blame on Adobe.. c'mon people...

[CormacB]

I found a libflashplayer.so that purports to be the TI version. But any attempt to click on anything in flash results in the page reloading.

[devu]

I don't think putting libflashplayer.so even if is correct one will solve it. Why? The biggest difference between flash 9 and 10 is that. The second has more to to with hardware and relaying on platform specific drivers. That's why Adobe had to work closely with vendors to make it happen.

Flash 10 trying to get access to GPS, front camera and internal accelerometer. Obviously it fails on N900 since nothing has been done for this device.

This is how open Maemo on N900 is ;). For sure not even a little bit more than flash. Even if Adobe could open flash player nobody except Nokia is able to port it here. But keep dreaming... or buy another device. :p

[jstokes]

Flash 10 trying to get access to GPS, front camera and internal accelerometer. Obviously it fails on N900 since nothing has been done for this device.

This is how open Maemo on N900 is ;).

While certainly my N800 and N900 do have their fair share of closed components by Nokia on them, there are applications in Extras that use at least one of the hardware mentioned

[attila77]

I think The Steve would agree with you, take the sources make his own version and then close it again but put some black logo on it ;)

Who cares ? He did/does that with WebKit (some would argue MacOS X, too), and I didn't hear anyone complain. The point is that if you don't like it, you have the option of not buying Apple products or using their technologies. If I don't like Adobe's vision of Flash, I don't have the option of going for alternatives - I'm cut off from that content completely.

You messing up Flash content with Flash player here.

No, I don't have any beef with Flash content. It's content like any other, but it's precisely the player it's being controlled through, hence the whole discussion.

1. Why you defending Nokia so hard in this case?

Sigh. We've been over this. I'm pointing out why Adobe's current Flash player distribution model sucks, regardless of what any vendor does(n't do). I would be writing the same thing on a HTC Hero/Droid Eris forum, and I guess there you would claim that I'm defending HTC. You can blame (rightfully or not) Nokia for something you believe it's guilty of, but it will not protect you from being suckered again by Adobe when you buy whatever is the hot-Flash-device-of-the-day.

In other words - why are you defending Adobe so hard in this case ?

2. How you can explain flash 10.1 on N8 witch seems to be totally pointless because this peace of s**t is not able to play even the best optimised flash content at all smoothly.

Flash 10.1 on N8 destroyed your "Adobe conspiracy" theory long time ago actually.

There is no Flash 10.1 on N8. Symbian^3 devices have Flash lite 4 builds. As for conspiracy, it's not a conspiracy that's holding back Flash 10.1 - it's plain old terms and conditions.

Flash 10 trying to get access to GPS, front camera and internal accelerometer. Obviously it fails on N900 since nothing has been done for this device.

More FUD. All those components are freely accessible and documented (and used by 3rd party apps), most of them implemented in a bog-standard Linux way, so there is nothing 'special' about the N900 or Maemo in that sense that would require even NDAs (it's not like Flash needs BME or whatever)...

[retsaw]

Who cares ? He did/does that with WebKit (some would argue MacOS X, too), and I didn't hear anyone complain.Because you weren't listening? There were lots of complaints about the way Apple handled their obligations under the LGPL licence of the KHTML code Apple based Webkit on from the KHTML devs, at least there was in the earlier days of the Webkit project, I think Apple did improve the way they handled the code after a while, but I haven't really kept up on it so I don't know if they have improved enough to the satisfaction of the KHTML devs or not.

[sjgadsby]

And here is first random link from google

http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/nokia-e7-and-nokia-n8-run-flash-10-1.html

The image on the page to which you linked shows a version string beginning with "FL". That's Flash Lite.

See the table "Flash Lite versions and returned version values" in "Detecting the Flash Lite version on a device" (http://library.forum.nokia.com/index.jsp?topic=/Flash_Lite_Developers_Library/GUID-B8112B29-0707-4E79-A438-BB7A1A74F1AD.html).

[attila77]

Because you weren't listening? There were lots of complaints about the way Apple handled their obligations under the LGPL licence of the KHTML code Apple based Webkit on from the KHTML devs, at least there was in the earlier days of the Webkit project, I think Apple did improve the way they handled the code after a while, but I haven't really kept up on it so I don't know if they have improved enough to the satisfaction of the KHTML devs or not.

I'm not talking about the legal/moral implications - I'm not a fan of many things Apple does and how they do/did it, but whatever they did with webkit did not ruin the web as a whole, which is the premise here - that a 'dark, evil Flash' will be created and it will endanger the 'excellent' compatibility, multiplatform and performance track record of the original Flash player.

[Radu]

I really wonder, why isn't there more effort into making Gnash work properly?
The GNU people (and Linux people in general) have equivalent programs for almost everything except for Skype and Flash. It can't be THAT hard to make something that can run ActionScript properly, now can it? Especially if Adobe charges money for their Flash plugin..

[jalyst]

I really wonder, why isn't there more effort into making Gnash work properly?
The GNU people (and Linux people in general) have equivalent programs for almost everything except for Skype and Flash. It can't be THAT hard to make something that can run ActionScript properly, now can it? Especially if Adobe charges money for their Flash plugin..

Agreed, we need much more momentum thrown into GNASH, then maybe one day we can finally tell Adobe to piss off.

[anapospastos]

I dont wanna look fool but why plugin shows version 10? Is that relative to tweak flash plugin app?

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12073980/Screenshot-20110110-155138.png

[pelago]

I dont wanna look fool but why plugin shows version 10? Is that relative to tweak flash plugin app?
Yes, if you've installed Tweak Flash Version then that will change the displayed version number of the plugin (without actually changing the capabilities of the plugin).

[anapospastos]

Yes, if you've installed Tweak Flash Version then that will change the displayed version number of the plugin (without actually changing the capabilities of the plugin).

I ve been thrilled for a while..

[arkanoid]

Agreed, we need much more momentum thrown into GNASH, then maybe one day we can finally tell Adobe to piss off.

It is the race you cannot win while damn ***** webmasters are requiring *NEW* version of flash being installed.

[tomchiverton]

Adobe doesn't charge for Flash.

[stlpaul]

It is the race you cannot win while damn ***** webmasters are requiring *NEW* version of flash being installed.

Same problem with Moonlight. As soon as it catches up to the latest features, Microsoft releases a new version of Silverlight that keeps us all out in the cold again.

[tomchiverton]

When Flash reaches 80% penetration of a new version in only a few months, why shouldn't developers hold back ?
http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html says something like 99% of people have the latest version or just one below...

[attila77]

Adobe doesn't charge for Flash.

Unless you happen to be a company that wants to distribute/certify Flash player :)

When Flash reaches 80% penetration of a new version in only a few months, why shouldn't developers hold back ?
http://www.adobe.com/products/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html says something like 99% of people have the latest version or just one below...

Because those numbers do not include mobile devices which are an increasing percent of consumers of content.

[vladdguevarra]

Hi everyone. I know we have been waiting for an update on this. I stumbled upon this link about a Flash 10.1 demo that supports ARM Cortex A8. I'm not so much of a techy guy but I wanna your take on this. Here's the link

http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/adobeflash-a8.html

Another sad new is that Adobe has a beta fo Flash 10.2. Our N900 is being left behind. We have power in our hands but lacking spport. :( Here's the link

http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

[sjgadsby]

The thread "Nokia N900 Flash 10.1" (1 post) has been merged into this thread.

[ajack]

Hi everyone. I know we have been waiting for an update on this. I stumbled upon this link about a Flash 10.1 demo that supports ARM Cortex A8. I'm not so much of a techy guy but I wanna your take on this. Here's the link

http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/adobeflash-a8.html

Another sad new is that Adobe has a beta fo Flash 10.2. Our N900 is being left behind. We have power in our hands but lacking spport. :( Here's the link

http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html

You really should do a SEARCH before posting as some people may get annoyed with you for not doing that... It has been discussed hundreds of times in this forum.

Here is one such URL http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37922&goto=newpost

Go to my blog page to know more about Flash 10.1... ;)

[ajack]

You really should do a SEARCH before posting as some people may get annoyed with you for not doing that... It has been discussed hundreds of times in this forum.

Here is one such URL http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=37922&goto=newpost

Go to my blog page to know more about Flash 10.1... ;)

Oops, the thread has been merged... phew! :)

[xenkof]

Oops, the thread has been merged... phew! :)

Hey ajack, is the file you are hosting the real deal or a tweakflash version?

[outdoors]

Go to my blog page to know more about Flash 10.1... ;)

I went, I saw and I downloaded your flash 10.1 :)
You have the potential to be the maemo man of the year!
Care to tell us how this could be, if it's real and how to install it?

[xenkof]

Well, I did too, but nothing downloads from the torrent yet. No seeds or peers online.
If you have gotten it, just unzip, it should be a file named libflashpayer.so, search for the same file on your phone, BACK IT UP, and then copy this one where the original was. Then test with sites that you know are only working with 10.1.

[outdoors]

Well, I did too, but nothing downloads from the torrent yet. No seeds or peers online.
If you have gotten it, just unzip, it should be a file named libflashpayer.so, search for the same file on your phone, BACK IT UP, and then copy this one where the original was. Then test with sites that you know are only working with 10.1.

Tnx! I still waiting for seeds aswell. But somehow I'm getting the eary feeling that im being taken for a ride..

[fahadj2003]

this thread is still alive?
o.0
its practically asking the trolls to troll..

[ndi]

At least they are all clumped together.

[try-alls]

what we need is a very kind lottery winner to buy the plugin from texas instruments (saw a post sayin they have it ready to use) an then upload for all, off to shop to try my luck lol

[xenkof]

I thinks ajack's file is the real deal guys. It reports version 10.1.105.6 on Adobe's page.
It also runs streetview (I can see streets for 3 seconds and then microB crashes). It also runs Nuclear Eagle (http://armorgames.com/play/27/nuclear-eagle) until you hit play and microB crashes again.
Same with www.atdhe.net
Same with youtube.
What I have noticed is that microB crashes when you try to interact with content. eg. Youtube plays a video OK, but when you try to play/pause it microB blows up.

I tried this while overclocked to 1150 and on stock clocks. I also have nitroid with multiboot, so don't now if any of these f@@@@ this plugin.

If you have any 10.1 only sites I'd be happy to test them.

[devu]

Try this wonderfl.net there is tone of little flash experiments that you will be able to check against features being used as well as source code.

[xenkof]

Well, as I said before, ajack's file IS a flash plug in, although a highly unstable one, even for non 10.1 flash stuff.
Basically if you try to interact with flash content it crashes microB. Of course that's beating the purpose, because you can't maximize videos on youtube, or hit play/pause, or play flash games, or navigate streetview, but it does load them up.

On a side note, this might be a beta build, because the version it reports (10.1.105.6) is higher than any of the latest versions adobe has listed on it's about flash site:
10.1.102.64 For Windows
10.1.102.64 For Macintosh - OS X
10.1.102.65 For Linux
10.1.103.19 For Chrome on all platforms
10.1.102.64 For Solaris

Can somebody else try it just to rule out if my phone is the problem or the plugin?

[doctor madness]

On my side, Deezer and google street view work like a charm with ajack's plugin (and I thank him very much). Some ppl told me that youtube is not really stable (like switching to full screen).
But if you need access to flash 10 contents, it's the only way, and it's stable enough to be used with flash 9 on my side.
Of course, a stabilized version would be wonderful

[devu]

Are you able to access www.flaemo.com with this version of plug-in? I can't wait to try this out but my N900 is still on vacations due to broken USB port ;/

[yodawg]

wow exciting stuff!!
we are making some progress!
wonder if ajack has a slighly older but more stable version of that flash 10 plugin which seemingly came out of no where and works wonders for us and unstable for others

[Crogge]

I tried this Flash 10.1 BETA which is available on Ajacks website. It is generally working but as users said quite unstable / slow. I see also a red frame in the upper left corner?

I see that as great progress to get Flash 10.1 and hope that we may get a stable version soon :)

[Creamy Goodness]

weird, i wasn't expecting something useful in this thread!

okay it crashes. a lot. good effort though!

[Tedri Mark]

Nope, me neither...

[ebzzry]

Thanks for the hard work! I'm very eager to see more updates!

[debernardis]

I have tested the same libflashplayer.so on the Pandora, with Firefox 3.6, and it works much better, i.e. you can interact with the flash contents without restarting the page, you can stream youtube videos (albeit at 240 pt to avoid stuttering) etc. So there's something wrong in microb with that.
Anybody did use the 10.1 plugin with mobile firefox/fennec?

[bbkshine]

Bro when i try to replace the file " libflashplayer.so " tht i downloaded from ajack with the default " libflashplayer.so " ... It says " PERMISSION DENIED "

So can any one tell me how can i replace it then

[xenkof]

Bro when i try to replace the file " libflashplayer.so " tht i downloaded from ajack with the default " libflashplayer.so " ... It says " PERMISSION DENIED "

So can any one tell me how can i replace it then

You have to be root. If you are trying through console write: sudo gainroot
Or else download Filebox and enable root from settings to allow you to mess/view with system files.

[yodawg]

I have tested the same libflashplayer.so on the Pandora, with Firefox 3.6, and it works much better, i.e. you can interact with the flash contents without restarting the page, you can stream youtube videos (albeit at 240 pt to avoid stuttering) etc. So there's something wrong in microb with that.
Anybody did use the 10.1 plugin with mobile firefox/fennec?

when we replace the old libflashplayer.so file on our N900 it affects only micro b right? not firefox? how do you install it on firefox?

[lucas777]

Wheres the new 10.1 lib file guys? Is it hosted somwhere, also what folder do i put it in thanks heaps

[bbkshine]

the new 10.1 flash works with a RED mark on DEAULT WEB BROWSER ( i cant even make the youtube player into full screen mode ) but anyways Thanks guys for the improvement.. Hope we will get the good one soon

But in case of mozzilla & Opera the New Flash is not recognizing :( Hope u will guide me HOW TO ENABLE 10.1 FLASH in MOZILA

[bingomion]

put up some info... where is it?

[bingomion]

found it:
http://www.renegade-uiq.com/

[try-alls]

this is pretty awesome, shame the videos on pinkbike are still buggy on n900 think it uses vimeo, everything else is pretty darn good though, considerin we're not technically meant to have it,
also does anyone else get a red like bar coverin the left upper corner on vids (i have flash an ad block on microb)

[moester76]

which adobe flash version would be compatible with n900?
im trying to view flash content thru the meamo browser on facebook and it says to download the latest adobe flash version.
there are a few under the linux tab. not sure which one to go with?


thnx

[viraj3006]

N900 is pre installed with flash 9.4 . Theres no update after that. Use "Tweak flash plugin version" from testing apps. It will enable flash content.(Hopefully)

[sjgadsby]

The thread "flash version" (3 posts) has been merged into this thread.

[try-alls]

which adobe flash version would be compatible with n900?
im trying to view flash content thru the meamo browser on facebook and it says to download the latest adobe flash version.
there are a few under the linux tab. not sure which one to go with?


thnx

hi tbh i have the latest version on laptop but it still sometimes comes up sayin i need to update, i use ubuntu atm with adobe repo so shouldn't have the problem, however i did not come across this when usin the 10.1 flash plugin found here http://www.renegade-uiq.com/ an kudos to bingomion for postin that link i must have by-passed whilst readin thread

[yodawg]

does this new flash 10 plugin make all flash content unstable or only tru flash 10 content unstable and flash 9 content remains stable??

[yodawg]

this is pretty awesome, shame the videos on pinkbike are still buggy on n900 think it uses vimeo, everything else is pretty darn good though, considerin we're not technically meant to have it,
also does anyone else get a red like bar coverin the left upper corner on vids (i have flash an ad block on microb)

you mention everything else is pretty good so does flash content on say www.nba.com load without the red square and allow you to interact with it like pause maximize?

[try-alls]

you mention everything else is pretty good so does flash content on say www.nba.com load without the red square and allow you to interact with it like pause maximize?

so far i haven't test it on everything just stuff i have dropped onto, i have noticed my cpu an ram rocket up but 'tis to be kinda expected, i'll test ya link after i'v got some grub in me an report back

EDIT: what on the site are u wantin to use, videos?

EDIT2: videos work but still with red bar will get a screenshot of red bar so a possible fix can be found (maybe only on my n900 that it shows up)

[yodawg]

wow thats great that videos works !! :)
thanks for the update try-alls !

so videos on nba.com work but can you interact with them ??
like can you pause them or maximize and minimize them?
and does the red square show up on all flash content?
like some flash games on www.armorgames.com?

[try-alls]

ok the red bar pretty much show up on everything an games load super slow so i got bored o waitin but here screenshots to show red bar on both youtube an an armorgames game

[yodawg]

games loading slow is due to your internet speed not flash 10 right?

i have heard that although flash 10 contents loads but micro b browser crashes when trying to interact with it but it seems like everything is working fine for you which is great!

so it seems like we now more or less have access to flash 10!

[try-alls]

games loading slow is due to your internet speed not flash 10 right?

i have heard that although flash 10 contents loads but micro b browser crashes when trying to interact with it but it seems like everything is working fine for you which is great!

so it seems like we now more or less have access to flash 10!

no crashes my end but if i'm after flashgames etc i tend to use laptop (bikemania rocks) only used flash on n900 to show friends the odd youtube video

[yodawg]

great so its seems flash 10 is stable for some people

[bingomion]

Kudos to ajack!!
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=922031&postcount=1835

Wish he/she posted sooner... I've been trolling this damn thread!! lol
Also a donation button somewhere would be a good idea.... I'm keen to get this moving as would so many ;)

I to get the red bar, tried it on street view.. it worked!!
I'll try facebook vids today :)
Thanks again ajack... keep us posted!!!

[rebhana]

Having tested this leaked 10.1 plugin, I soon switched back to the native one. But it's certainly good to have the option of a real if somewhat unstable 10.1 flashplayer for cases where tweakflashver is not enough. To be able to switch between the different versions I found that it's simplest to do that by symbolic links, like so (as root):

Install experimental version in, say, new subdirectory 10.1:
mkdir /usr/lib/browser/plugins/10.1
cp /path/to/new/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/browser/plugins/10.1
Move original version to, say, new subdirectory orig:
mkdir /usr/lib/browser/plugins/orig
mv /usr/lib/browser/plugins/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/browser/plugins/orig

To activate 10.1 version I do
ln -sf /usr/lib/browser/plugins/10.1/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/browser/plugins/libflashplayer.so

and to activate the original version I do
ln -sf /usr/lib/browser/plugins/orig/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/browser/plugins/libflashplayer.so

It's of course easy enough to define shortcuts (e.g. shell aliases for root when using ssh) to have a more convenient switch, or even make a simple dedicated app.

[yodawg]

Having tested this leaked 10.1 plugin, I soon switched back to the native one. But it's certainly good to have the option of a real if somewhat unstable 10.1 flashplayer for cases where tweakflashver is not enough. To be able to switch between the different versions I found that it's simplest to do that by symbolic links, like so (as root):

Install experimental version in, say, new subdirectory 10.1:
mkdir /usr/lib/browser/plugins/10.1
cp /path/to/new/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/browser/plugins/10.1
Move original version to, say, new subdirectory orig:
mkdir /usr/lib/browser/plugins/orig
mv /usr/lib/browser/plugins/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/browser/plugins/orig

To activate 10.1 version I do
ln -sf /usr/lib/browser/plugins/10.1/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/browser/plugins/libflashplayer.so

and to activate the original version I do
ln -sf /usr/lib/browser/plugins/orig/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/browser/plugins/libflashplayer.so

It's of course easy enough to define shortcuts (e.g. shell aliases for root) to have a more convenient switch, or even make a simple dedicated app.

wow this is great for on the fly flash version switching, thanks!
if you know how to make a dedicated app for the switch please keep us posted or tell us any other shortcut

[bingomion]

I wouldn't bother with an app.. just make an alias ;)
Good idea on the linking!

Why do you need to change back to 9?
Not many sites now support ver 9.

[rebhana]

I wouldn't bother with an app.. just make an alias ;)
Good idea on the linking!

Why do you need to change back to 9?
Not many sites now support ver 9.

Note that a simple alias only works for root, for example when you ssh into the device.

I actually found that tweakflashver is (so far) enough for almost all of my purposes (google streetview I use through an Easy Debian app to which I pointed somewhere above in this thread).

EDIT: After some failed attempts, I managed to set up shortcuts where I don't need ssh to get root: Provided rootsh is installed, adding the following lines to /home/user/.profile
alias flash10='/usr/bin/rootsh /bin/ln -sf /usr/lib/browser/plugins/10.1/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/browser/plugins/libflashplayer.so'
alias flash9='/usr/bin/rootsh /bin/ln -sf /usr/lib/browser/plugins/orig/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/browser/plugins/libflashplayer.so'

allows one to just say "flash10" or "flash9" in XTerminal to activate the respective flashplayer. One should of course stop and restart the browser when doing so.

[yodawg]

my results with this flash 10 plugin mimic that of an earlier post in the sense that content loads slower than normal and if i try to interact with it micro b reloads the website thus heavily limiting the usefulness of the plugin in and oh yea i also get the red rectangular bar in all flash content

[jw461]

Any chance someone playing with this can try Hulu?

[Alfred]

Note that a simple alias only works for root, for example when you ssh into the device.

I actually found that tweakflashver is (so far) enough for almost all of my purposes (google streetview I use through an Easy Debian app to which I pointed somewhere above in this thread).

EDIT: After some failed attempts, I managed to set up shortcuts where I don't need ssh to get root: Provided rootsh is installed, adding the following lines to /home/user/.profile
alias flash10='/usr/bin/rootsh /bin/ln -sf /usr/lib/browser/plugins/10.1/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/browser/plugins/libflashplayer.so'
alias flash9='/usr/bin/rootsh /bin/ln -sf /usr/lib/browser/plugins/orig/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/browser/plugins/libflashplayer.so'

allows one to just say "flash10" or "flash9" in XTerminal to activate the respective flashplayer. One should of course stop and restart the browser when doing so.

What did i do wrong, if i don't have a /home/user/.profile file??

[retsaw]

What did i do wrong, if i don't have a /home/user/.profile file??Nothing, it isn't there by default. Just create the file with those lines in and it should work (but only for terminals opened after you have created the file).

[Alfred]

so i did everything what You said guys, but when type flash10 or flash 9 in it says

$ flash9
BusyBox v1.10.2 (Debian 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso30+0m5) multi-call binary

Usage: ln [OPTION] TARGET... LINK_NAME|DIRECTORY

-sh: /usr/lib/browser/plugins/orig/libflashplayer.so: Permission denied
-sh: /usr/lib/browser/plugins/libflashplayer.so: Permission denied
~ $
what do i do now?

[lardman]

You need to be root to make a symlink in that location, install rootsh (if you've not already) and then issue "sudo gainroot" to get a root terminal, then use the symlink instructions given above.

Be careful what you do as root though as you can delete anything.

[retsaw]

so i did everything what You said guys, but when type flash10 or flash 9 in it says

$ flash9
BusyBox v1.10.2 (Debian 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso30+0m5) multi-call binary

Usage: ln [OPTION] TARGET... LINK_NAME|DIRECTORY

-sh: /usr/lib/browser/plugins/orig/libflashplayer.so: Permission denied
-sh: /usr/lib/browser/plugins/libflashplayer.so: Permission denied
~ $
what do i do now?What I think you have done is spread the alias command across multiple lines. There should be just two lines added to your .profile file for this, one starting "alias flash10" and the second starting "alias flash9".

[neotalk]

has anyone who has installed this tried to play the channels directly from the mainpage at tv catchup or from the english aljazeera site....they play with flash 9 but stutter very badly.

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

http://www.tvcatchup.com/channels.html (requires a quick free registration )

thanks for any info back on these sites.

[sophocha]

It`s a good effort, a step to the right direction.As everybody else:

1) You get a red line at the top left of the feed.
2) Everything seems to play at a lower framerate (some more than others).For example youtube is great but justintv and tvcatchup are slow)
3) No fullscreen folks! If you touch the flash content the browser crashes and restarts.
4) Everything that has flash 10.1 loads (like google street view) but don`t expect anything else.No interaction with the content.Even a single touch is enough for the browser to crash.

[neotalk]

It`s a good effort, a step to the right direction.As everybody else:

1) You get a red line at the top left of the feed.
2) Everything seems to play at a lower framerate (some more than others).For example youtube is great but justintv and tvcatchup are slow)
3) No fullscreen folks! If you touch the flash content the browser crashes and restarts.
4) Everything that has flash 10.1 loads (like google street view) but don`t expect anything else.No interaction with the content.Even a single touch is enough for the browser to crash.

thanks for the info....i think i will wait until its more stable.

[debernardis]

Thing is, the same plugin works well for another platform, the Pandora - I've tried it.
So it's microb that is making the plugin fail, and we should make the plugin work with another browser, say firefox or midori.

[sygys]

@debernardis, explain how you did it so we can also test it.

[ajack]

Hey ajack, is the file you are hosting the real deal or a tweakflash version?

As far as I know, it's the real deal and is non-hardware assisted. After you try it, you will realize why it was not made available and officially supported. Basically it sucks and I don't use it at all unless the damn site needs it (it's unstable). You can stop asking TI for it and we can all continue life without flash 10.1 knowing that what work already done so far is simply not usable.

[ajack]

the new 10.1 flash works with a RED mark on DEAULT WEB BROWSER ( i cant even make the youtube player into full screen mode ) but anyways Thanks guys for the improvement.. Hope we will get the good one soon

But in case of mozzilla & Opera the New Flash is not recognizing :( Hope u will guide me HOW TO ENABLE 10.1 FLASH in MOZILA

Mozilla Fennec-GTK beta 5 works with Flash (both stock Flash 9 and the Flash 10.1 from my site). You will need to go to mozilla's daily build folders (which is off topic here) to access Fennec 4.0 beta 5... I am using build 20110128033725 at the moment.

[Jack6428]

I need official Flash 10.1, Facebook videos don't work anymore. Stupid Nokia!

[attila77]

As far as I know, it's the real deal and is non-hardware assisted. After you try it, you will realize why it was not made available and officially supported. Basically it sucks and I don't use it at all unless the damn site needs it (it's unstable). You can stop asking TI for it and we can all continue life without flash 10.1 knowing that what work already done so far is simply not usable.

Still, if we had permission, we could make tweakflashver toggle it pronto (maybe oven from the desktop) should you need it (not just the version, but the binary, too, since we kinda already do that as part of the backup process).

[debernardis]

I've tested ajack's plugin on fennec, latest gtk build, on the n900, but it's still less performant that the same plugin on the Pandora (http://www.openpandora.org).
While on the Pandora a youtube video is quite enjoyable, albeit in 240 pt, on the n900 it's quite choppier. Also, on the Pandora, it's possible to pause and restart the video, while on the n900 when I try to pause, the flash plugin crashes.

[phase315]

Anyone else see @simonLR tweet about flash 10.1?

Flash 10.1 On Your #N900
http://www.knownokia.ca/2011/01/flash-101-on-your-n900.html

Is that an official release?

[wmarone]

Anyone else see @simonLR tweet about flash 10.1?

Flash 10.1 On Your #N900
http://www.knownokia.ca/2011/01/flash-101-on-your-n900.html

Is that an official release?

No, it's not. Chances are it's the TI version that is being distributed in violation of the licensing agreement.

[samipower]

flash 10.2 for pc , flash 10.1 for android , flash 9 for nokia n900, its is very easy.

flash 10.1 ti red line, not optimized for nokia , only can run.

in the future ???????

[Jack6428]

I would kick Nokia and Adobe in the face if I had the chance. Not once, not twice. A billion times until they would be bleeding on their knees begging for mercy. It's the only thing they deserve, along with any other gaint company promising things which they know they can't deliver and making idiots out of people who buy their expensive products. If you can't deliver something, fine. But at least say it in the beginning and don't drag the living hell out of people while having a good arogant laugh. Money outweighing problems on the triple beam.

[attila77]

In the beginning it had what was promised. Things got out of control when the finger pointing started (dudes from company X saying Y should/would deliver something and vice versa).

[AndyNokia232]

Did Nokia not sell enough N900s for Adobe to warrant it worth dishing out the 10.1 code? Please don't tell me Nokia actually have it but don't want to give it out because there can't possibly be such a thing now as PR 1.4?! :confused:

[Dark_Angel85]

more importantly,

There WAS a video of it using flash 10 right? so... we know it's possible... just why no release?

[attila77]

Did Nokia not sell enough N900s for Adobe to warrant it worth dishing out the 10.1 code? Please don't tell me Nokia actually have it but don't want to give it out because there can't possibly be such a thing now as PR 1.4?! :confused:

more importantly,

There WAS a video of it using flash 10 right? so... we know it's possible... just why no release?

...and that's the finger pointing part.

[tomchiverton]

The red line: Stop talking about it. This just means 'not for public use' and was a feature of the TI release.

Yes, it's slow, that because unlike the official v9 plugin it's not hardware accelerated, so will soak up CPU and battery. Stop asking.

Yes, the N900 was demoed running v10, by Adobe, but no, there are not enough N900 - Adobe would rather spend their limited time on Android and cross-compiling for iPad/iPhone. Can't blame 'em- look at the sales figures.

*That said*, I do ask Adobe now and again, and they always say something to the effect of 'it's on the list, but not a priority'. I take that to mean Nokia didn't sell enough, and as Nokia have dropped Maemo like a hot potato, I don't expect much progress. You'd need to really get into the guts of the source of Flash Player to make it do all the things v10 does on mobile (not just hardware acceleration, but lowering frame rate when idle etc). Not something Adobe are going to let the community do. Sorry.

Maybe Meego will have v10.

[azkay]

I wouldnt put it down to sales figures, the PSP never got an upgrade.

[m4r0v3r]

I wouldn't say never ever, but yeah...never ever

[windows7]

I would kick Nokia and Adobe in .the face if I had the chance. Not once, not twice. A billion times until they would be bleeding on their knees begging for mercy. It's the only thing they deserve, along with any other gaint company promising things which they know they can't deliver and making idiots out of people who buy their expensive products. If you can't deliver something, fine. But at least say it in the beginning and don't drag the living hell out of people while having a good arogant laugh. Money outweighing problems on the triple beam.

Ironically such failures are all done to keep share holders happy, afterall these multi-nationals already got our money, the quicker the device gets outdated the quicker you buy another.

Personally, I could give you all a list of crooks that i no longer do business with, following personal bad experiences, even if they may appear to be better value for money.

In this case, we can either put up with such critical product limitations or eventually go with a more productive brand next time but with another whole range of new issues. To give you an example, computer hardware parts, I personally have found chinese or in some cases unbranded products out there to offer support for latest technologies, at a fraction of the price of outdated named brands, in other words big brands take our money, but are not any better. of course not all products are same

[one1002]

anyone have tried this?

http://www.knownokia.ca/2011/01/flash-101-on-your-n900.html

[9000]

anyone have tried this?

http://www.knownokia.ca/2011/01/flash-101-on-your-n900.html

Yes but it didn't respond to click properly such that it'd reload page when touch.

At least it loads flash 10 stuffs. It should work fine for something that is auto-starting, though I couldn't find any.

(Oh I think I've feedback somewhere here).

[gbrowne]

Yes, it runs as expected. Slower than 9 due to lack of hardware acceleration. Red line at top left of display indicates its a beta version.

GB.

[kolos]

Iceweasel and flash 10. I set to low resolution and it plays very fluent. Full screen mode doesn't work, I get grey window which crashes after few seconds, but Iceweasel doesn't crash and video still continues to play. The only thing that I'm missing is sound. I'm using Easy Debian v3d, so I'm wondering if it is possible to somehow enable the sound?

I placed libflashplayer.so into /.debian/usr/lib/browser/plugins/ and renamed it to libdebianflashplayer.so, before that I deleted original libdebianflashplayer.so (flash 9).

[s4br0s0]

This is for PC (i didn't read that say for mobiles).

Flash 10.2 Released - 34 times more efficient, Multi-Screen Support (http://geekmontage.com/texts/flash-10-2-released-34-times-more-efficient-multi-screen-support/)

Grettings.

[sophocha]

Mozilla Fennec-GTK beta 5 works with Flash (both stock Flash 9 and the Flash 10.1 from my site). You will need to go to mozilla's daily build folders (which is off topic here) to access Fennec 4.0 beta 5... I am using build 20110128033725 at the moment.

Explain please.Fennec 4.0 beta 5 supports flash?Mine doesn`t even support youtube (missing plugin)and when I try to download it there isn`t a version for maemo.

[bbkshine]

come on Adobe guys , i am willing to pay 20$ for Flash 10.1 & updates... what if all the Nokia N900 owners willing to pay 20$ each....

so guys plz make it fast

[Frappacino]

come on Adobe guys , i am willing to pay 20$ for Flash 10.1 & updates... what if all the Nokia N900 owners willing to pay 20$ each....

so guys plz make it fast

i can only lol at this post

[gbrowne]

Mozilla Fennec-GTK beta 5 works with Flash (both stock Flash 9 and the Flash 10.1 from my site)

ajack, can you please describe how well flash 10 works on Fennec beta 5 ?

acceptable frame rate ?
full screen ?
sound ok ?
stable ?

Thanks.

[amadeukaos]

http://www.tinhte.vn/meego-thu-thuat-meego-409/huong-dan-cai-flash-player-10-1-len-n900-586495/

(use the automatic translator)
did you all see that?

[martycollinsesq]

I say not coming.

[jalyst]

http://www.tinhte.vn/meego-thu-thuat-meego-409/huong-dan-cai-flash-player-10-1-len-n900-586495/

(use the automatic translator)
did you all see that?

And this is enlightening how? ajack already posted that how-to earlier in this thread.
It's not a perfect solution though, it has many flaws and is not worthwhile :(

[casketizer]

Flash in Firefox 4b4/5/6:

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=69206

[shady]

has anyone been able to get amazon instant movies to work properly?

thanks
shady

[bbkshine]

N900 devs Comeon..

If it is going like this most prolly N900 will get trashed soon.. coz Most of the Websites are asking for flash 10.1 in these days.. And we got only flash 9 :(

I dont think Adobe will do it.. N900 s upto u guys , I am sure if u guys concentrate we can build up flash 10..Coz u proved urself very well upto this mark.. and i am sure u will continue..

Hope u will take these words.. :)

[geneven]

has anyone been able to get amazon instant movies to work properly?

thanks
shady

No. But they work very well in Ubuntu. I wonder if anyone's tried them in Easy Debian.

[Tesno]

Use Tweakflashplugin so that web pages think you have Flash 10?

[geneven]

iPad doesn't support Flash, will it be trashed too?

Anyway, someone is releasing a device with Flash10.2.

[geneven]

Use Tweakflashplugin so that web pages think you have Flash 10?

Amazon Instant Movies believes it, but says loading the movie forever.

[devu]

iPad doesn't support Flash, will it be trashed too?

Anyway, someone is releasing a device with Flash10.2.

Whatever I'll buy in the future needs to run Flash 11.
Molehill 3D is freaking amazing.

See a bunch of references

http://www.uza.lt/2011/02/27/molehill-roundup/

And Play Quake 3 with your browser

http://q3fl.impulse12.com/

:)

[Bratag]

N900 devs Comeon..

If it is going like this most prolly N900 will get trashed soon.. coz Most of the Websites are asking for flash 10.1 in these days.. And we got only flash 9 :(

I dont think Adobe will do it.. N900 s upto u guys , I am sure if u guys concentrate we can build up flash 10..Coz u proved urself very well upto this mark.. and i am sure u will continue..

Hope u will take these words.. :)

No amount of concentration in the world is going to open up a proprietary format. Thats just the way it is.

[rentze]

No amount of concentration in the world is going to open up a proprietary format. Thats just the way it is.

The format itself is open, AFAIK:
http://www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/devnet/swf/pdf/swf_file_format_spec_v10.pdf
As I understand, it is just not a piece of cake to make a fully compatible and more (or at least equally) efficient player/plugin... Correct me if I'm wrong...

BTW, have you noticed an update to TI's Flash Demo here:
http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/adobeflash-a8.html
(Feb 28)

Seems like it does support HW acceleration now, but I am not sure if N900 hardware is supported... Seems like it's not...

edit:
Or maybe it is? I see several OMAP3 processors on the list, but not the one used in N900... do they all use the same architecture? Then, when it comes to DSP, I am not really sure how its features are actually accessed - via some library I guess? If someone more familiar could answer all these questions...

After all, there is a single Flash binary covering many Android devices so I guess all this is done in a pretty flexible way, meaning that if a single Linux (probably Meego) ARM device gets the famous plugin in the future, we will be able to use it on N900.

What an imagination, huh :)

[hgroove]

I believe flash 10 will come to our N900 with meego os.

Look around in Google and see.

I'm waiting for meego, it wil be "mi mejor amigo"....

[keljuk]

I believe flash 10 will come to our N900 with meego os.

Look around in Google and see.

I'm waiting for meego, it wil be "mi mejor amigo"....

Shure that'd be the case if Meego would ever come to n900 :D
Here's a shocker 4 u if you haven't allready heard: Nokia dropped maemo, symbian and meego for WP7. If you want working flash10 I suggest you go to your nearest retailer and buy Yourself a nifty android-handset :)

[xenkof]

Shure that'd be the case if Meego would ever come to n900 :D
Here's a shocker 4 u if you haven't allready heard: Nokia dropped maemo, symbian and meego for WP7. If you want working flash10 I suggest you go to your nearest retailer and buy Yourself a nifty android-handset :)

I'd check the news more often if I were you. Nothing was dropped (apart from Maemo, but that was last year when Meego was announced).
N900 is getting MeeGo and Symbian is planned for another 150 million devices. No one is buying them if they have stale software. In fact S^3 devices are getting a new UI in the coming months.

[sbock]

Meego for N900 will not contain Flash and it's highly unlikely that it's suitable for normal users.

N900 is getting MeeGo and Symbian is planned for another 150 million devices. No one is buying them if they have stale software. In fact S^3 devices are getting a new UI in the coming months.

Yes, that's what Nokia PR want to tell us and we all know Nokia is always telling the truth... ;-)
No offense, but translated this phrases mean: Symbian is dead and Meego is on life-support...

[Soumen Jana]

can u tell me how to install flash 10 on my n900?

[shardul]

can u tell me how to install flash 10 on my n900?

How many time we have to say there is no flash 10 for maemo.When its comes officially you will see a update in your maemo app manager.

[Soumen Jana]

How many time we have to say there is no flash 10 for maemo.When its comes officially you will see a update in your maemo app manager.

Bt I saw it on You-tube, flash 10 is working on N900. And some people install it. Pls scrh on google.

[jedi]

Bt I saw it on You-tube, flash 10 is working on N900. And some people install it. Pls scrh on google.

Yet you've searched and ended up here asking how to install it?!

[blipnl]

Bt I saw it on You-tube, flash 10 is working on N900. And some people install it. Pls scrh on google.

You don't want flash 10 that you've seen on youtube. It is too slow, has no hardware acelleration and is a pain to get working at all.

What you want to do is view flash10.x content on a pc, or download tweakflashver for N900, or wait for harmattan/meego with funcional flash 10.X (if coming at all), or get an android device :D

[samipower]

it is incredible

i hate it

android have now Flash 10.2 and n900 flash 9??

incredible?

well, nitdroid gingerbread+ flash 10.2 ??? is the better option

[Bratag]

it is incredible

i hate it

android have now Flash 10.2 and n900 flash 9??

incredible?

well, nitdroid gingerbread+ flash 10.2 ??? is the better option

Ok not really sure I understood what this post meant. But keep in mind Android is still actively being developed by Google. Not to mention the fact that adobe made sure that flash would work on Android first because they wanted to stick it to Apple.

[Rootage]

Would it be difficult for websites to have an option to stream the same video using version flash 9? I know it's a bit far stretched.. but if it's not too much work for them and they make money from the advertisement, then maybe we can convince sites like justin.tv to have that option?!

[xenkof]

Well youtube has transcoded almost all it's videos to webm, at least the most viewed ones (webm is viewable through an HTML5 browser).

So the rest are bound to follow some time soon.
This though beckons the question of when are we getting an HTML5 browser with webm support and hardware acceleration (useless elsewise) on the N900.

[Patroclo]

Well youtube has transcoded almost all it's videos to webm, at least the most viewed ones (webm is viewable through an HTML5 browser).

So the rest are bound to follow some time soon.
This though beckons the question of when are we getting an HTML5 browser with webm support and hardware acceleration (useless elsewise) on the N900.

I strongly believe: NEVER!

[attila77]

The difficulty is "only" getting an OMAP3 accelerated codec, other than that it's fairly easy as we can have up-to-date webkit builds.

[tomchiverton]

Would it be difficult for websites to have an option to stream the same video using version flash 9? I know it's a bit far stretched.. but if it's not too much work for them and they make money from the advertisement, then maybe we can convince sites like justin.tv to have that option?!
Normally it's not the video file itself requiring Flash 10, it's the playback component. As Flash v10 is now waaaay up in the high 95%+ penetration, and N900 users make a tiny tiny fraction of what's left, and we're a dead platform which will only loose users over time, why would they invest the time and money ?

Now, Meego, that's a different question, and I'm out of touch with what Flash/AIR support has been promised for that.

[Rootage]

Hm yes, but is n900 the only mobile device with this problem?

In any case thankfully n900 has good spec for other OS but I got mine second hand recently and I wonder if mine will last for when meego comes out :confused: :)

[attila77]

1. People always put the latest version of Flash in the checks to force-upgrade people, which results in a fairly braindead update process.

2. Adobe has the final say of what device (doesn't) get Flash through their certification process and license agreements.

[tomchiverton]

Hm yes, but is n900 the only mobile device with this problem?

What, having a dead O/S ? Of course not...

[tomchiverton]

1. People always put the latest version of Flash in the checks to force-upgrade people, which results in a fairly braindead update process.

Actually, most people don't, because there's never any need to go back and update the minimum version required unless/until you use a new feature that requires the update.

[Alastor89]

have you ever tried this plugin ? http://www.knownokia.ca/2011/01/flash-101-on-your-n900.html

it works for me, i've tried on facebook, youtube and tubeify. The only problem is that when I play videos from youtube at a certain moment the video stuck and does'nt load anymore. I think it can be improved ^^

[jedi]

have you ever tried this plugin ? http://www.knownokia.ca/2011/01/flash-101-on-your-n900.html

it works for me, i've tried on facebook, youtube and tubeify. The only problem is that when I play videos from youtube at a certain moment the video stuck and does'nt load anymore. I think it can be improved ^^
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=932898&postcount=1897

[tomchiverton]

It'll be very very slow though. Not fully accelerated, and of dubious legality, iirc.

[Pencil]

I am just a dummy user of N900. Can anyone gives me a detail description of how to install the plugin? Does this plugin works fine on N900? Thanks.

[retsaw]

You can find instructions if you look (Google will help you if there isn't instructions in the link given), and no it doesn't work fine, it will play some Flash 10 content, but it is unstable and will crash whenever you try to interact with it.

[prankster]

isnt there anyone to realise the importance of this n900?i saw people buying this even now a days ,even i did a month ago ,so come on ,flash is so desperately needed ,if you cant play videos on n900 just because of flash that is so fricking embarassing,really ))
please show up with a stable flash,we need it )))))

[hhmah]

Here is the plugin on dropbox. To install it, simply replace the shared-object in /usr/lib/browser/plugins - but be sure to create a backup in the event that you need to revert. I suggest you move it out of /usr/lib and into /opt as it'll chew roughly 7MB of space. Restart browserd or reboot your device and you're done.


can someone explain it, i don't get it, how can i movie it out of /usr/lib and into /opt.

thankx

[Frappacino]

ahaha at the poor guy begging for new flash

[prankster]

Frappacino;1002466]ahaha at the poor guy begging for new flash

haha?do you think its funny ? having an organised teeth structure isnt a great thing but a flash player ,to play all bunch of videos ..mind me ))
i wish you were in china and only then u could realise the importance of flash in n900 cuz you use youtube here,it is banned in china ,even facebook, so no videos ,and chinese use the only youtube like site ( youku.com ) and guess what you can use that on n900 but cant play videos becuz you dont have flash in n900 ...amazing or embarrassing ?
:(:o

[tomchiverton]

isnt there anyone to realise the importance of this n900?i saw people buying this even now a days ,even i did a month ago ,so come on ,flash is so desperately needed ,if you cant play videos on n900 just because of flash that is so fricking embarassing,really ))
please show up with a stable flash,we need it )))))

We know. Tell Adobe : http://bugs.adobe.com/flashplayer/

[prankster]

http://www.blogoflux.com/adobe-releases-64-bit-flash-for-windows-mac-linux
any one going to try this out ? i wish i could but personally i have no idea to program things right ,i hope it is real and accordingly reasonable ..
so ? ? ?

[jpala16]

http://www.blogoflux.com/adobe-releases-64-bit-flash-for-windows-mac-linux
any one going to try this out ? i wish i could but personally i have no idea to program things right ,i hope it is real and accordingly reasonable ..
so ? ? ?

There existed Flash 10 for Linux before. It doesn't exist (officially or working well) for Maemo. That link is news because of that release for 64 bits.

[prankster]

There existed Flash 10 for Linux before. It doesn't exist (officially or working well) for Maemo. That link is news because of that release for 64 bits.

so is there something wrong with maemo developers or adobe-y-superhumans?
come on maemo,bring it on ,dying to see an original flashplayer so one can proudly say my n900 can play any video on the earth..
uh tired

[tomchiverton]

Maemo doesn't have access to the sort of hard-core chip-level guru's need to produce a tightly coupled and optimised binary any more.
Adobe have better things to spend their time and money on, I suspect they feel.

[prankster]

what about libflashplayer.so ? is it a good alternative ?as far as i have heard about it ,it is fake and bugged ..should or shouldnt go for it ?
and if you mean what u saying right now then probably we never gonna able to flash our videos ?

[tomchiverton]

"What about libflashplayer.so ? " ?
That's just the binary the provides the Flash Player. I assume you mean the illegally distributed (but genuine), buggy and unoptimised one that provides a Flash Player version 10 ? What do you think I think of it :-)
"right now then probably we never gonna able to flash our videos ? "
Never is a long time. But near-to-medium term I wouldn't expect an updated Player. If and when MeeGo get's out in the wild, we'll see what Adobe have or have not been cooking for that platform, which in theory should run on an N900... that's at least a year away though, I'd say. Not withstanding Nokia's intent to produce one MeeGo phone this year, it'll need a lot of work to run on a stock N900. Alternatively, you could run Android on your N900, if you can do without phone calls. So, again, wait many months.
If Flash v10 is that big a deal for you, go get a modern Android device.

[object]

something that work the same way like downloadhelper plugin may help you getting the mp4 directly from the video site like youku. no need of flash and much easier to implement, if there isn't any existing similar solution then just gather your chinese friends do make a proper donations and someone will probably want to do it for you.

[Frappacino]

Frappacino;1002466]ahaha at the poor guy begging for new flash

haha?do you think its funny ? having an organised teeth structure isnt a great thing but a flash player ,to play all bunch of videos ..mind me ))
i wish you were in china and only then u could realise the importance of flash in n900 cuz you use youtube here,it is banned in china ,even facebook, so no videos ,and chinese use the only youtube like site ( youku.com ) and guess what you can use that on n900 but cant play videos becuz you dont have flash in n900 ...amazing or embarrassing ?
:(:o

Yes I do think its very funny - you are posting at the end of a 196 page thread and with the same request that was made at the start of the 196 page thread. Here is a hint - if after 196 pages this has not happened - then there is a good reason why its not happening.

Get a clue. Nokia doesnt give a **** about the n900. Adobe doesnt give a **** about the n900. Community devs here are not Neo. You can post a million posts here and no one will give a **** on this subject. You are just wasting your time.

Here is another hint - if you want flash 10 on the n900, install nitdroid, because thats the only way you are even gonna get close to what you want.

And FYI - I am a Chinese from Hong Kong, so dont pull that "you are not chinese" crap on me.

[Xagoln]

This whole thread illustrates why closed/proprietary software is bad for end-users.

People in here are reduced to begging a large, uninterested corporation to help stop their device's slow fading into obscurity.

If it was open source we'd have had Flash just after it was released, but instead Adobe has all the power and we have nothin to bargain with.

I say fsck Flash!

HTML5 video is on its way, and these proprietary applications have a habit of being replaced by free/open-source alternatives.

Just be patient, and in the meantime use a proxy or a flash video downloader.

[prankster]

Yes I do think its very funny - you are posting at the end of a 196 page thread and with the same request that was made at the start of the 196 page thread. Here is a hint - if after 196 pages this has not happened - then there is a good reason why its not happening.

Get a clue. Nokia doesnt give a **** about the n900. Adobe doesnt give a **** about the n900. Community devs here are not Neo. You can post a million posts here and no one will give a **** on this subject. You are just wasting your time.

Here is another hint - if you want flash 10 on the n900, install nitdroid, because thats the only way you are even gonna get close to what you want.

And FYI - I am a Chinese from Hong Kong, so dont pull that "you are not chinese" crap on me.

ROFL thats hillarious..anyway >>Nokia doesnt give a **** about the n900 >> very embarrassing>>come on nokia,accept it or do something about it ..it is ****ing n900 not a booty **** , show some respect

[tomchiverton]

ROFL thats hillarious..anyway >>Nokia doesnt give a **** about the n900 >> very embarrassing>>come on nokia,accept it or do something about it ..it is ****ing n900 not a booty **** , show some respect

Pfft. Nokia is now a Windows reseller, nothing more. *That's* embarrassing.

[prankster]

i actually didnt buy n900 cuz it was a nokia product ,i bought it cuz it is best existing machine now a days and it was not going to be an issue if it were belong to any other cellular company other than nokia ..
whatever you saying if its true then i want to be the first who is gonna abandon using nokia products ,beside that hail n900 ))
i hope any of nokia representative take a look at this thread ..really really embarrassing

[Bosske]

i have been experiencing a problem with the flash player while browsing an online game... it gives me error #2032 with both firefox and chromium browsers. so my questions: is this happening because of the flash player and therefore abandon the online game or i can find some way around it?

i searched the web and i understand that error #2032 is about security protocols, etc...and on a pc it can be overridden...

[prankster]

it is flash player and all we need is flashplayer 10..vote for it
nokia ppl should have a luk at it ..
hail n900

[prankster]

i-swifter as apple flashplayer has already released in market why we still dont have flashplayer? what a shame !

[prankster]

http://alternativeto.net/software/iswifter/
an idea for people working on flashplayer alternatives ..some may like it,some may not ))
just an idea !!!

[elie-7]

http://alternativeto.net/software/iswifter/
an idea for people working on flashplayer alternatives ..some may like it,some may not ))
just an idea !!!

if its open source we might have a hope, but i don't think it is :(

[prankster]

i wish it was a good news but alas !
some one should seriously take a look at i-swifter ,quick player which acts like cutetube but there is need to add some more famous sites like youtube for example youku.com ( chinese youtube )
hungry for more apps,iswifter is compatible with flash..just make it happen in anyway ))))) - REQUEST-

[ScottishDuck]

Lightspark is far more useful.

http://sourceforge.net/apps/trac/lightspark

[BertvanDorp]

No clue whether this has already been posted by hawaii_i himself, but he posted Flash 10.1 for N900 on his website: link (http://www.knownokia.ca/2011/01/flash-101-on-your-n900.html).

[jedi]

No clue whether this has already been posted by hawaii_i himself, but he posted Flash 10.1 for N900 on his website: link (http://www.knownokia.ca/2011/01/flash-101-on-your-n900.html).
It's been linked to before, and is the same old TI version with the red bar, crashes and other instability problems.

[pali]

No clue whether this has already been posted by hawaii_i himself, but he posted Flash 10.1 for N900 on his website: link (http://www.knownokia.ca/2011/01/flash-101-on-your-n900.html).
This is version 10.1 r105

I found version 10.1 r120 on (section Multimedia, 4.): http://salaliitto.com/~gildean/ac100/wiki/phhold/
You can try this newer version.

[kolos]

Thanks Pali.

This version doesn't have red bar in corner. Videos are not fluent. Can't play videos from Vimeo, but speedtest.net now works fine! :D

[kolos]

Another thing, I have set 30 seconds for backlight time-out. When the video is played in full screen mode after that period it gets minimized and then backlight turns off, which is not the case with flash 9.

[maxximuscool]

Thanks Pali.

This version doesn't have red bar in corner. Videos are not fluent. Can't play videos from Vimeo, but speedtest.net now works fine! :D

Tried that on mine but only see v10.0.45
Must be the flash tweaker

[kolos]

Tried that on mine but only see v10.0.45
Must be the flash tweaker

Are you sure that you downloaded the file (http://www.enst.fr/~husson/libflashplayer.so)?

This file is 7,64 MB big. It is bigger then v105 (7,51 MB) and could not be tweaker version.

Browser should be closed. Replace current file with posted one in /usr/lib/browser/plugins/.

[demolition]

Just about to copy v10 into plugin folder and noticed this:


v9 (current):
ls -a libflashplayer.so
libflashplayer.so

v10.120:
ls -a libflashplayer.so
player.so
libflashplayer.so


Why might there be two items in the v10 so file?

[sophocha]

nice try but videos are slow and when you turn the volume up or down when in fullscreen it goes out of fullscreen (weird).

[pali]

Are you sure that you downloaded the file (http://www.enst.fr/~husson/libflashplayer.so)?

This file is 7,64 MB big. It is bigger then v105 (7,51 MB) and could not be tweaker version.

Browser should be closed. Replace current file with posted one in /usr/lib/browser/plugins/.

Yes I dowbnloaded it from this URL. Note that someone told me that is needed to restart phone after replacing plugins...

[retsaw]

Yes I dowbnloaded it from this URL. Note that someone told me that is needed to restart phone after replacing plugins...You should only need to restart the browser, but due to the way the N900 browser works this isn't as simple as just closing the browser windows as part of it still runs in the background, however selecting "End current task" from the power button menu with a browser window active does seem to kill it fully and works for me when I switch between v9 and the v10.1 leaked version (I haven't tested this apparently newer version you've linked to yet).

[kolos]

pali, I don't doubt that you did. My reply was to maxximuscool, who probably didn't do something right and still have tweaker version.

I didn't restart the phone. I'm going to try it now to see if there're any differences.

EDIT: As expected, restart didn't improve anything for me. I can confirm sophocha's findings about volume.

[maxximuscool]

pali, I don't doubt that you did. My reply was to maxximuscool, who probably didn't do something right and still have tweaker version.

I didn't restart the phone. I'm going to try it now to see if there're any differences.

I got it working after restore tweakerflash stock player. But this new player is not really worth replacing the 9th version. I revert it back to the stock player and found it smoother and much stable.

Pressing volume wont exit me out of full screen in version 9. And fast videos playing instead of frame by frame.

[kolos]

I totally agree with maxximuscool, this version is not usable, but we have some progress comparing version r105.

[niqbal]

pali, I don't doubt that you did. My reply was to maxximuscool, who probably didn't do something right and still have tweaker version.

I didn't restart the phone. I'm going to try it now to see if there're any differences.

version Flash 10r120 but its unusable on n900. it is not optimized for it, gets stuck every 20 secs or so of video playback. Touch volume buttons and it gets minimized, automatic backlight time out and gets minimized. its there but with its inherent problems.

libflashplayer.so file is a binary compiled file. Unless someone disassembles it and then with some out of the world assembly language knowledge is able to compile it again lol

[pelago]

Touch volume buttons and it gets minimized, automatic backlight time out and gets minimized.

I'm just guessing, but I expect both of these issues are because the plugin hasn't been especially compiled for N900. That is - it hasn't been told to disable the inactivity timer, and that the volume buttons should work differently in full screen vs non-full screen.

[pali]

Yes, but this thread is about flash 10.1 (maybe 10.2?) and there are no other flash 10 version for omap3 armv7 processors :(
I'm happy that I found new version than was announced here...

Note that TI has version 10.2 on: http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/adobeflash-a8.html

But I cannot find it...

[Hurrian]

Yes, but this thread is about flash 10.1 (maybe 10.2?) and there are no other flash 10 version for omap3 armv7 processors :(
I'm happy that I found new version than was announced here...

Note that TI has version 10.2 on: http://focus.ti.com/docs/toolsw/folders/print/adobeflash-a8.html

But I cannot find it...
I just requested it. Hopefully my custom email address can convince them to give it out.

[elie-7]

the youtube quality is better, but the performance is worse....

[freemangordon]

hmm, seems like HW acceleration is supported trough OMX and GLES2, need to find a way to enable it. If .so is opened as text file there are some texts like FLASH_OMX_VIDEO and FLASH_GLES2_SUPPORT, env variables?

[crash16]

the youtube quality is better, but the performance is worse....

you mean in the 10.2 version?..if so would you be kind to share it with us?

thank you