N900 back cover camera issue

[RobertHall]

having read this thread
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=36675&highlight=camera+haze

i decided to contact a friend at nokia...
nokia were unaware of the issue.......
i decided to compile some factors so we can better pinpoint where the problem lies....as not all n900's are affected....
im asking those who are affected with the problem to:

1. state your n900's country of issue via the product code(found under the battery on the silver label)

2. please state the date your n900 was bought

3. where your n900 was made (made in finland, made in china, made for nokia etc.)

these to factors can help us determine if the issue is region specific, or early adopters or maybe even a factory issue.
thank you all for your help in this matter.

****please only state the above and not have the post getting off topic****

[neboja]

"....as not all n900's are affected...."

if all nokia's have that chrome around a camera, than (i think) YES,... they are affected! but feel free to contact nokia, because, this is a problem... ;)
thx

[DaveQB]

1. Mine came with a US plug and US Region by default.
2. 8th of Dec 2009
3. Where do I find this?>

[b666m]

"....as not all n900's are affected...."

if all nokia's have that chrome around a camera, than (i think) YES,... they are affected! but feel free to contact nokia, because, this is a problem... ;)
thx

it's NOT the chrome ring!
responsible for this haze is the turquoise edge of the camera-cover ;)

[neboja]

no no no... it is from the upper side. turquoise edge of the camera-cover is from the right, but i have only minor problems with that... but in upper part of picture,... now that's a big problem! ;)

[slender]

no no no... it is from the upper side. turquoise edge of the camera-cover is from the right, but i have only minor problems with that... but in upper part of picture,... now that's a big problem! ;)

Please could you make guide how to reproduce this latter problem. I have only managed to reproduce it with my left hand. Keeping it too close to flash I managed to get silver/white haze to left/upper part of image.

[zehjotkah]

all N900s are made in Korea afaik

[niqbal]

all N900s are made in Korea afaik

my undedrstanding is only the earlier ones were made in korea. post production n900s are made in finland.

[zehjotkah]

my undedrstanding is only the earlier ones were made in korea. post production n900s are made in finland.

pre production (prototypes) n900s were made in finland.
everything later in korea.
anyone with a chinese n900?

[Dr. Drips]

this problem makes me sad:
1. the code 0582645 (bought it in the Netherlands
2. I bought it on 19 December 2009
3. Made in Korea

Hope this helps

[eitama]

Mine also has the blue colored plastic on the lens cover, but no problems when taking photos.
- Made in Korea, purchased 2 weeks ago.

Night photo from the office :
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/160/20100217007c.jpg

[rm42]

Mine also has the blue colored plastic on the lens cover, but no problems when taking photos.
- Made in Korea, purchased 2 weeks ago.

Night photo from the office :
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/160/20100217007c.jpg

It is only noticeable when taking flash pictures.

[Kajko]

Mine does not have this issue. Made in Korea, purchased 3 weeks ago.

[craftyguy]

1. US
2. Received Dec 6th 2009
3. There is no indication WHERE it was made, only a 'designed in Finland' on the back ;)

[neboja]

ok... so this is a main diference (you can see it from the plane!!!)
on first pic, back cover is out, and on the other,.... whell...
that is bad! but... hey... nothing is perfect! :D

[in-maemo]

In my unscientific study of two photographs I just took in uncontrolled circumstances, one with the cover on and one with it off, I believe I have the problem as well. In attached photo excerpt, the cover is on in the upper image and off in the lower image.

CODE: 0580952
Purchased on 11/27/2009 in the Nokia NYC Flagship Store
MADE IN KOREA

[Dr. Drips]

this problem makes me sad:
1. the code 0582645 (bought it in the Netherlands
2. I bought it on 19 December 2009
3. Made in Korea

Hope this helps

here is some proof of the haze on my N900.
it was very clear when I took a shot from my band banner.
(sorry for spamming that ;))
So I decided to make another one without the backcover.

For all people with the blue rim, please try to shoot some photo and then again without the back cover.
It's not visable in every photo, but we really got a hardware design flaw here.

(with the back cover)
http://www.no-repair.com/prut/wback.jpg

(Without the back cover)
http://www.no-repair.com/prut/woback.jpg

[RobertHall]

please keep them coming!!! nokia are definitely listening but are depending on us here to at least help them help us!
we have their attention...
so far it seems like early adopters.....

[kevinm2k]

Got mine mid January 2010, from Mobile Phone Direct (Nokia retailer) on Vodafone in UK... yes, that's right, still no firmware yet :(

Coloured the blue lens cover with a black marker... seems to have done the job, still not really a suitable fix!

[yogi900]

I got mine from Amentio.no in Norway. Received in 1st week of January.
It is made in Korea.

[canabal]

1. US code and purchased here.
2. Early December 2009
3. Made in Korea

[nokiabuff]

Pictures are really hazy. Mine I got in Dec around 18th dec.
Blue/Turquoise color ring on the camera. Typically I see during redeye photos with eyes of red color but in this case you see blue colors on eyes very strange. Here is a picture

Mine mentions designed in finland:
made in korea.
code:0580952

See the picture.

[Grant]

CODE: 0580952
PURCHASED: end of December, from newegg.com (US)
MADE IN KOREA

First pic is with the cover on, second pic is with the cover off and provides a better representation of the actual color of the laptop.

[andraeseus1]

1. 0580952 (bought it in the United States, Nokia flagship store in New York)
2. Nov 27th 2009
3. Made in Korea

[Fumanchu]

Bought in the UK, Carphone Warehouse (Reading).
Bought on 30th Dec 09.
Designed in Finland.

[craftyguy]

RobertHall:

Any news from your friend at Nokia about this issue? (I've already provided the information you required in an earlier post in this thread..)

[RobertHall]

hi all update...
my friend said they have been collecting data as its a sporadic issue...they cant really resolve if its earlier models or later ones etc. as it seems to affect some from a range of locations production dates etc.

[andraeseus1]

hmmm.. if the prob is fixed then i will simply trade my n900 in for a newer version i mean.. its still under warenty.. i think the camera taking bad pics is a reason to swap out with that warenty as it is a manufactueres defect. any thoughts on this?

[xomm]

AFAIK, all the Maemo devices were made in Korea.

United States via Amazon.com
Purchased Nov. 10, 2009
Made in Korea

No haze problem.

[andraeseus1]

so what ever happened with this? any word from nokia

[slender]

What happened? Only thing what I know that currently: Do not ever never use flash and learn to modify setttings by hand because automatic guessing sucks more or less.

[andraeseus1]

yeah i think your right