More Cons than Pros for the N900

[maemo900]

I bought the N900 directly from Nokia for £499 in September 09, finally got it mid November 09. Was very excited about it but now not too impressed.

Only pros about the device are that it plays DivX and Xvid,
Video recording WVGA (848x480) @24fps,
32GB built in memory plus MicroSD up 16GB (or 32GB if and when it comes out).
Very good browser,
Multitasking.

Cons-
No portrait mode
Crap battery life,
Resistive touch screen,
Screen also very delicate (already have a slight indentation in the middle of the LCD not on the screen itself)
Nightmare how to work out how to create a playlist,
No equalizers
Quite chunky device
Cheap camera cover
Unstable OS
New software updates don’t seem to do anything.
Can’t reformat device without flashing
Can’t move icons, reorganize menu or add folders

How can they talk about MeeGo and maemo6 when they haven’t kept their promise about a proper update for maemo5?

[maemo55555@yahoo.cn]

Let me say sth,

Cons-
No portrait mode Meego will support it !!
Crap battery life, It's enough.
Resistive touch screen, Don't u think it works perfect?!
Screen also very delicate (already have a slight indentation in the middle of the LCD not on the screen itself) I don't really think so.
Nightmare how to work out how to create a playlist, u have to learn moreNo equalizers There's a new software supporting it!!!!
Quite chunky device Smaller than N95 N96 N97, what do you want?!
Cheap camera cover So what?
Unstable OS What?! windows 7 is stable, so you?
New software updates don’t seem to do anything. Fix bugs!!
Can’t reformat device without flashing
Can’t move icons, reorganize menu or add folders

[maemo55555@yahoo.cn]

my conclusion is there are many things you have to learn

[NokiaRocks]

I can't agree with one single point of your cons but with all of your pros^^

[maemo900]

Do you believe that MeeGo will be here by the end of the month? Why first say that there will be a major update for maemo5 with loads of fix’s and software and then don’t do it? It will be a NoGo next.
A phone that is powerful should have a decent battery life.
Got to admit that the resistive screen is the best I have come across but they could have made it capacitive for the type of phone it is.
Playlist isn't a problem anymore but it is when you don't know what you are doing at first.
The N900 is not a mature OS, someone from Nokia told me it's a geek’s phone. Let the geeks/developers sort the problems out themselves. Which I don't think is right.

Either way I do like my N900 it’s just little basic things that should have been there in the first place that annoy me and 95% of people who own the N900.

But hope your right about this MeeGo

[Texrat]

Either way I do like my N900 it’s just little basic things that should have been there in the first place that annoy me and 95% of people who own the N900.

I'm highly skeptical of that statistic, especially given that the N900 is packed with features and preferences are very personal, not universal.

[maemo55555@yahoo.cn]

I'm highly skeptical of that statistic, especially given that the N900 is packed with features and preferences are very personal, not universal.

exactly!!!!

[bandora]

Unstable OS? Do you know what the word "unstable" mean?

Also, portrait mode.. really? If you look at my posts that I wrote when I first registered I used to b*tch about the lack of portrait mode, but.. now.. seriously, I don't see the point of having portrait mode on the N900.. but that's just me..

New software updates don't do anything?? What do you mean?? A small example, going from the original firmware to PR1.1 didn't do anthing to your N900? If you think that it did not.. You need to pay a bit more attention.. Can't reorganise the menu, icons.. etc? Well it's because you haven't searched the threads on this forum.. You can do it (not easily though).. but you can.. Oh, also PR1.2 will have that support; so also that contradicts that "con" that I mentioned earlier.

Also after reading your thread, all I understood from it is that you didn't do your research on the N900, and just ended up buying the wrong device...

Don't get me wrong here, I am not saying the N900 is the "perfect" device, because no device out there is "perfect".. But it's by far the closest to perfection...

[acou]

I'm by no means a Nokia fanboy, but your cons aren't really convincing. They may be true but sound like pseudo-cons, stuff i can easily live with, except the battery issue. Why not adding the black color to your cons list? Or: Why not putting your creativity into something more constructive?

[Cue]

Please people, don't reply to these threads (bit of a hypocrite but its already there) all it does is keep it up on the active topics list while serving no purpose. Maemo900 I don't mean this in a rude way but what did you wish to achieve in this thread?
do you want advice? some technical help on how to do something? was it a very subjective mini review for a community which probably already owns the device or one of its predecessors?

[mothmanex]

Let me say sth,

Cons-
No portrait mode Meego will support it !!
Crap battery life, It's enough.
Resistive touch screen, Don't u think it works perfect?!
Screen also very delicate (already have a slight indentation in the middle of the LCD not on the screen itself) I don't really think so.
Nightmare how to work out how to create a playlist, u have to learn moreNo equalizers There's a new software supporting it!!!!
Quite chunky device Smaller than N95 N96 N97, what do you want?!
Cheap camera cover So what?
Unstable OS What?! windows 7 is stable, so you?
New software updates don’t seem to do anything. Fix bugs!!
Can’t reformat device without flashing
Can’t move icons, reorganize menu or add folders

Which software has a equalizer?

[xKamaitachi]

these are all just your opinions, infact i bet half the people dont think your cons are even cons
No portrait mode its a tablet.
Crap battery life.cits more than enough.
Resistive touch screen, some people like this better , +1 for stylus use
Cheap camera cover what other manufacturers have a camera cover besides maybe 1 or 2 phones?
point is .. go hop on an iphone bandwagon and get one to complain less , we really dont need people bashing the n900 on these forums. The n900 exceeds more expectations than any other phone

[weirdbeard]

the web browser does have portrait mode already. Besides, your n900 is harder to drop if you are holding it with 2 hands all of the time.

[eiffel]

People have been laughing at me with my N900.

I was heading off for a walk in the countryside when I suggested we turn on the GPS to help us find our way. After ten minutes it still hadn't locked, and everyone lost patience and we started driving without the GPS.

Later we wanted a photo and I lined everyone up and clicked the shutter, only to get the dreaded "Operation Failed" alert. I tried again, same result. I said that I was going to try re-booting the phone, and by now everyone was laughing.

Of course, a re-boot did fix the problem, and also I am able to get a GPS fix sometimes. But I can understand why the others laugh, when some of them have phones that "just work". They don't understand that things like control-shift-X help to compensate for the deficiencies.

Regards,
Roger

[Xaphan]

Rofl seriously why the hell did you buy the n900 then? Like there wouldnt be a load of reviews or user post about it so you could go and buy an iphone or some android htc or something other. It would save us those "stupid whine" posts. N900 isnt a normal phone tbh - it requires a bit more knowlege then other phones. So next time before you buy something jsut think what do you rly want and if the thing can provide it to you.
And btw the gps problem - with asistance from internet conection it locks instantly and without it needs 1-10mins to get a lock - so yeah i agree it could use some improvments but actualy it doesnt matter so much because there are no real navigations for the phone so far. :(

[badboyuk]

Let me say sth,

Cons-
No portrait mode Meego will support it !!
Crap battery life, It's enough.
Resistive touch screen, Don't u think it works perfect?!
Screen also very delicate (already have a slight indentation in the middle of the LCD not on the screen itself) I don't really think so.
Nightmare how to work out how to create a playlist, u have to learn moreNo equalizers There's a new software supporting it!!!!
Quite chunky device Smaller than N95 N96 N97, what do you want?!
Cheap camera cover So what?
Unstable OS What?! windows 7 is stable, so you?
New software updates don’t seem to do anything. Fix bugs!!
Can’t reformat device without flashing
Can’t move icons, reorganize menu or add folders

very good answer :)
The only con I don't like is the OS being unstable but then again that just could be coz of all the beta apps/widgets I have installed (how can i resist!) :-P
Apart from that its fine. Portrait mode I could live without im so used to it in landscape mode.
But yeah they couldve given it a better build quality as we all have spent a good wad of cash on this device, so im with ya on that 1 abt the cheap lens cover etc.

other than that, im happy :)

[arjunkumar87]

the main cons for this device is, people like maemo900 getting a N900 :P

[enjay]

I spent a bit of time researching the N900 and alternatives and took the jump about 2 weeks ago. I was quite nervous about moving to a linux based "undeveloped" phone that was supposedly difficult to learn how to use and for geeks only! I really cannot understand much of the criticism of it frankly, or the difficulty in using it. My wife has a 3Gs iphone and I really don't find it anywhere near as useful as the N900 (duh, right?). Coming from a n95 this thing has been like phone nirvana despite the limited apps (compared to the iphoney) and I am absolutely loving it.:D

[twaelti]

Cons-
No portrait mode No problem for me, your mileage may vary
Crap battery life, Crap not, but not as much as we dream of
Resistive touch screen, Can't see a problem with that
Screen also very delicate (already have a slight indentation in the middle of the LCD not on the screen itself) Bad luck, mine is quite sturdy, less scratches than others - and not as much a fingerprint magnet as the iPhone
Nightmare how to work out how to create a playlist, It took me 2 minutes to get it. Well worth the wait :-) If it would be a problem, someone could easily programm a playlist editor
No equalizers Ah but you can just install a plugin
Quite chunky device All these features need some space, especially the keyboard. It fits well into my trouser pockets. E.g. the iPhone is larger, but thinner
Cheap camera cover Would you prefer an expensive one? :-) Do you have any problems with the efunctionality
Unstable O S Any statistics and bugs? My experience as a 20years-developer is the opposite. Even if some bugs remain.
New software updates don’t seem to do anything. Grin, please!
Can’t reformat device without flashing How many phones do you know that could do that otherwise? How should this be done?
Can’t move icons, reorganize menu or add folders Indeed a missing feature, but seemingly coming soon in PR1.2


I've added my comments directly in the quoted text

[maluka]

I love my N900 so much that I'm willing to trade any dissatisfied N900 user in Europe my slightly used iPhone 3G for their used N900. I could use a second device for testing.

[maemo900]

“If you don’t like it, why buy it?” That is one thick question. How was I supposed to know that the device was going to turn out the way it is without buying it?

I did my research and all I got was GREAT PHONE, FANTASTIC, EXCELLENT… that sounds very convincing. I do like this phone and I do know how to use it BUT what people are no getting here is the basic things like equalizers and adding folders especially in photo gallery. That should already be on the device.

Maybe it’s just my phone reason I say unstable OS is because some times I need to press the power button 5 times for the phone to turn on.

Just installed the matrix theme to see how it looks and switched back to the default theme and now all my widgets and icons are all over the place one on top of the other and some missing.

Sometimes when flipping through screens it gets stuck and have to turn phone off and on again.

When turning the volume up sometimes closes the media player.

This is why I’m unhappy with the N900

[maemo900]

Twaelti. What is the plugin for the equalizers then?

[taril]

I suggest you do drop your N900 into a dustbin, but before, do not forget to tell me the selected dustbin's location!

[Barts]

i'm having none of the problems you mentioned, and i certainly don't agree with your cons, i only ever reply to threads like this because i hope that people can see the bigger picture and realize what a fantastic peice of equipment the N900 actually is, IF it has what you require from a smart phone and you like the aesthetics of the device, and for god sake, try before you buy, you wouldn't spend 20 grand on a car just by looking at it on websites.

no i'm not a nokia fanboy and yes i love my N900. but simple common sense says to me, if i buy something and it doesn't work as i feel it should, seek help and find out what you are doing wrong, or send it back and ask for another one, or send it back and get your money back and do some research and try and find a device that does have what you require. for instance, it's no use listing a resistive touchscreen as a complaint when a little research will clearly tell you that the N900 has a reistive screen, so why buy it if it's not what you want???. i know it's not a perfect device, i wanted mms the other day, but i am prepared to live what little flaws it has for the welfare of benifits that it gives me, because the phone suits me, and that's what it's all about, you're personal preference.

[arjunkumar87]

“If you don’t like it, why buy it?” That is one thick question. How was I supposed to know that the device was going to turn out the way it is without buying it?

I did my research and all I got was GREAT PHONE, FANTASTIC, EXCELLENT… that sounds very convincing. I do like this phone and I do know how to use it BUT

I can pretty much say that your so called research seems to be failed, coz i have read more than 10+ reviews(incase you need them, i can post the sites), and in all the reviews the final verdict was never "GREAT PHONE" or "FANTASTIC" or EXCELLENT."
Every reviewer said the phone is not a perfect device, its not easy to be used by a normal user( meant people like you) and this is definitely not a main stream device. and the learning curve for this device is little bit high compared to the high end devices that are surfacing at the moment.

This device is mainly for geeks,hackers definitely not for noobs :p , so i advice you to do your research properly for the next device.

[mobiledivide]

I can guarantee that 95 percent of users complaining about instability or reboots etc have teed off on extras devel applications. I have a stock n900 with no devel or testing apps an I never see any of the problems that users talk about here...uptime of days, battery life of about 30 hours, fast picture taking with no errors, gps lock in 30 seconds. Please tell me I'm not the only one.

[ysss]

Dude, seriously.

All the reviews that mentioned any 'cons' in this forum, even very minor ones are usually immediately flooded by denials from all the 'N900 fans'. I think OP has a point about what result he got from his research.

[maemo900]

People here like to twist things a lot. I don’t care if it’s a resistive screen or not, that’s not the problem. I was only mentioning what Nokia could have done to the phone to make it better cause of the price paid for it.

My issues with the N900 is what I posted about the software. I love my N900 I think it’s a great phone for what it does and what it’s capable of doing but like I said maybe it’s just my device having these problems.

Nokia store has closed down in London and no other store will touch it because I bought it directly from Nokia. Now how can I get my money back or a new device if the store isn’t there?

[Bratag]

Orange Box - you still here? Will these threads never end. I would have thought when we hit 100 of them an official tombstone would be issued and we could take them out the back and shoot them. Putting them to rest forever.

[maemo900]

I don't have devel or extra testing on my device. Don't touch that cause I know what it can do.
Be realistic I’m not going to throw away my £500 device in the bin. So what should I do since the Nokia store has gone and no other phone stores will touch it because I bought it directly from Nokia?

[Robb]

If your phone is locking up and rebooting quite often and you haven't added any extra software, I would give it in to repair.

[maemo900]

why can't people be as nice as Robb? Nice simple answer

[HRZ]

some of the users on this site make me nauseous. And in this case, I'm not talking about the OP.

why so quick to judge and name call and give the most ridiculous advice?? Why not hear him out and first say "please give us a more detailed example of the con XX or XY?"

I find people that are so quick to call "troll" or say "throw your device out" or "i hate n900 because of people like him" are infinitely worse than genuine trolls. And in this case, the guy is not a troll nor an "N900 hater" so dont be so quick to ostracize. I can definitely see where he's coming from. The N900 is a GREAT device and I love it but at times, it doesn't feel as polished as other devices (GOD FORBID!). But I am willing to live with my investment because I know it's a new OS, and with the new merge, etc, etc, etc.

point being. people, relax. ask for more info from the OP and have some damn patience. if you dont like a thread IGNORE it and move on.

OP: perhaps next time, clarify what kind of feedback exactly you're looking for...

[maemo900]

Only problem is that it will cost about £187 to get it repaired. That will be £687 spent on a phone.Then if the problem happens again will be more money.
Anyone wanna buy N900?

[floffe]

If it locks up and reboots Nokia should repair/replace it under warranty. Have you tried flashing it to see if the issues persist?

[Robb]

Only problem is that it will cost about £187 to get it repaired. That will be £687 spent on a phone.Then if the problem happens again will be more money.
Anyone wanna buy N900?

Why the extra cost?

[schettj]

Was very excited about it but now not too impressed.
Did you somehow not read anything at all anywhere about the device before you bought it?

You know, it's also a really bad shaver, and it doesn't make fries very well.

What are you going to get after you sell it?

[Barts]

Only problem is that it will cost about £187 to get it repaired. That will be £687 spent on a phone.Then if the problem happens again will be more money.
Anyone wanna buy N900?

surely it has warranty?? they can't charge you to repair a faulty phone that isn't out of it's warranty

[maemo900]

this link shows how to do it

http://discussions.nokia.co.uk/t5/Pool-of-Knowledge/N900-How-to-update-software-and-Reset-ALL-data/m-p/591877

only problem is my version doesn't show up
(RX-51_2009SE_(***)_PR_COMBINED_203_ARM.bin

(***) this bit with the stars is where my version goes but it is not showing up. It gives you a list of 12 versions but mine doesn't match. What can i do or doing wrong?

[JohnLF]

Go into Settings, About Product and report back what version number you see

For instance, mine is Version 2.2009.51-1.203.2

[maemo900]

surely it has warranty?? they can't charge you to repair a faulty phone that isn't out of it's warranty

Carphoneware House is supposed to be the best repair shop in the UK. But the warranty is not covered with them because I bought the N900 from Nokia store directly. Now that Nokia store has closed down I might not have a choice but to pay the amount they ask.
I don’t trust sending my phone to Nokia because anything can happen on the way.

[maemo900]

Go into Settings, About Product and report back what version number you see

For instance, mine is Version 2.2009.51-1.203.2

Mine is the same as the above but it doesn't show in the OS package

[volt]

Did you somehow not read anything at all anywhere about the device before you bought it?


At the time he bought* the phone, I was reading everything on the internet written by anyone who knew anyone who had at all heard about the N900. There was nothing - absolutely not a word - about this phone having weak spots on basic phone functionality. Such info was very hard to get by before December, January.

Such is the life of early adaptors. If you buy too early, you only know about the stuff that excites people.

*edit

[mobiledivide]

If it locks up and reboots Nokia should repair/replace it under warranty. Have you tried flashing it to see if the issues persist?

If your phone is covered under warranty aren't there Nokia service shops you can physically take your device into? Locking up and rebooting is not something I signed up for (there is a reason why I quit Symbian), if my phone was doing that I would definitely be as upset/unsatisfied as the OP. My point was that my n900 doesn't do any of that, sorry if I came across as unsympathetic.

[Bratag]

why can't people be as nice as Robb? Nice simple answer

Why couldnt your first post actually have contained a question or issue simply put and a request for help as opposed to a list of whines. You get out what you put in.

[cryox92]

@Maemo900
Just ignore the ignorant fanboys mate :).Once i had learned to do it,browsing these forums became much more enjoyable :).I'd like to comment on some of your cons.
The touch screen-in this case the ressistive touchscreen is much better because of its accuracy while browsing,in other areas it can be annoying but u'll get used to it.
Portrait mode-again its not really that bad because its a tablet,and its much easier to organize your homescreens,and for the features where portrait mode is necessary,the portrait mode is present.
Unstable OS-definetly unstable,its not even as closely as polished as the other operating systems.And not to mention the countless graphical bugs.

[JohnLF]

Unstable OS-definetly unstable,its not even as closely as polished as the other operating systems.And not to mention the countless graphical bugs.

I'm always amazed by these comments. I have owned my phone for 6-7 weeks, OS is rock solid for me, never seen any graphical bugs and I throw all sorts of -testing and -devel apps onto it.

Some of the apps themselves are a bit flaky, but mainly the ones which have not been ported properly.

My only gripe with Nokia where I feel I have been mis-sold is with OviMaps, otherwise I love this phone.

[maemo900]

I got rid of my iPhone 3GS and Nokia E72 because I really like the N900. The pros and cons is my opinion and I’m still sticking to it. But that doesn’t bother me apart from the battery issue and the other faults my N900 has. Other than that I think it’s a great device.

So I’m sorry if I have p!ssed people off.

[daperl]

We have great moderators on this forum, but why hasn't this thread been merged already? What is so compelling about the OP's original post that this thread needs to remain front and center? I'll answer my own question: Nothing. Mods, please do some merge magic.

[twaelti]

Twaelti. What is the plugin for the equalizers then?
It is called "mafw-gst-eq-renderer-MGR". You can download it from Garage (https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/7546/mafw-gst-eq-renderer_0.1.2009.47-1-1mgr_armel.deb), then follow the instructions here (https://garage.maemo.org/frs/shownotes.php?release_id=3304)and here (http://blogs.igalia.com/jasuarez/tag/mafw-gst-eq-renderer/).

[cryox92]

I'm always amazed by these comments. I have owned my phone for 6-7 weeks, OS is rock solid for me, never seen any graphical bugs and I throw all sorts of -testing and -devel apps onto it.

Some of the apps themselves are a bit flaky, but mainly the ones which have not been ported properly.

My only gripe with Nokia where I feel I have been mis-sold is with OviMaps, otherwise I love this phone.
Come back after you've done some research then we'll talk again.

[maemo900]

When I paid for my N900 it is was in September. I finally got in mid November. Reason for the delay was because they said it had software problems. My device is unbranded and unlocked. I was the 2nd person to get the phone on the release date, some woman beat me to it.
B!tch.
Anyway maybe their first batch of N900’s was faulty.

People now are getting it locked on a network for a 24 month contract. Maybe these carriers have updated the software to the own network and people are not having that many problems with their device.

[jamie721]

i noticed some one mentioned about having graphical glitchs. i had the same sort of thing it wasnt realy glitch's just quite slow which made it apear glitchy. my touch screen was also not very responsive.
i now dont suffer from any of these problems this is because "i think" orginaly i had a screen cover on it which i think was the resoning behind the shoddy touch screen because after removal it seems much better.
i recently broke my n900 and flashed it back to the uk release .bin since then my phone has worked a dream as if i have gained anouth 200mhz. this is either because i had install items from dev and testing. which were resource hogging
or i had far to meany desktop items that were all needing processing power. " sum reason i think its the load applet as it must always be checking to find out the load of the ram and arm cpu"
or the phone just works better once you have flashed it back to orginal. and update from there.

either way what ever fixed my main gripes with the phone fixed them. so i must say i love my n900 never been able to do half of the things i can do with this phone.

[oskarmat]

i agree on the battery life is crap

[cryox92]

i noticed some one mentioned about having graphical glitchs. i had the same sort of thing it wasnt realy glitch's just quite slow which made it apear glitchy. my touch screen was also not very responsive.
i now dont suffer from any of these problems this is because "i think" orginaly i had a screen cover on it which i think was the resoning behind the shoddy touch screen because after removal it seems much better.
i recently broke my n900 and flashed it back to the uk release .bin since then my phone has worked a dream as if i have gained anouth 200mhz. this is either because i had install items from dev and testing. which were resource hogging
or i had far to meany desktop items that were all needing processing power. " sum reason i think its the load applet as it must always be checking to find out the load of the ram and arm cpu"
or the phone just works better once you have flashed it back to orginal. and update from there.

either way what ever fixed my main gripes with the phone fixed them. so i must say i love my n900 never been able to do half of the things i can do with this phone.

i have flashed both the firmware and the mass memory and the graphical issues are still present.And no its not because of any major lagfest,there are ACTUAL graphical issues.Check the bugzilla u'll find them listed.

[Dave999]

love all the...learn linux...read reviews before spending your money...bla bla bla. we have all different pros and cons...

peace

[schettj]

When I paid for my N900 it is was in September. I finally got in mid November.

So it was problem free from November until now? Just trying to understand the timeline.

Once again.

So there were N number of people who bought a brand new device, and some subset of N assumed that a brand new device running a brand new system would arrive fully equivalent in functionality to devices on their second or third MAJOR software and/or hardware revisions, and they're now, 5 months later, getting around to posting how disappointed they are, on a USER/FAN site for the product.

Scratches head.

Still don't get it.

The n900 is a linux platform with some PIM/Phone capabilities that has fairly robust Nokia support for bug fixes, a growing user base of developers, and decent potential. It's not an iPhone, a flip phone, an n97, an n95, or a Droid. It's better then all of them in some ways, but not nearly as polished in others. The hardware is better in some ways, different in some ways, and worse in some ways.

Anyone who tells you otherwise is selling you something.

And yeah, I get it, it's not for everyone.

[UNderworld]

OP: there are far better cons than the ones u listed in ur 1st post.. btw, nowadays you have to do RESEARCH before buying a phone because u cannot trust a company to sell a decent phone.... thats the universal excuse for defending the n900



Don't get me wrong here, I am not saying the N900 is the "perfect" device, because no device out there is "perfect".. But it's by far the closest to perfection...

is that supposed to b a joke????:confused:
not even half of this phone/tablet is even close to perfection.....

[cryox92]

The advertising of the n900 is a joke lol.
On the official Maemo 5 website the n900 is advertised as a mobile computer while on the official nokia site the n900 is advertised as a mobile phone.Nokia needs to make their minds up and decide whether its a phone or a "mobile computer".

[raily]

i just love my n900. that's all I have to contribute :)

[cryox92]

i just love my n900. that's all I have to contribute :)

I love porn but a lot of the girls are ugly :D.

[les_garten]

I bought the N900 directly from Nokia for £499 in September 09, finally got it mid November 09. Was very excited about it but now not too impressed.

Only pros about the device are that it plays DivX and Xvid,
Video recording WVGA (848x480) @24fps,
32GB built in memory plus MicroSD up 16GB (or 32GB if and when it comes out).
Very good browser,
Multitasking.

Cons-
No portrait mode
Who Cares, did it have it before you bought it and it lost it? Didn't think so! Have you ever bought a 2-door car and later complained it wasn't a 4-door, and that was the companies fault?

Crap battery life,
You know a Full Multi tasking Open OS doing WiFi/3G that you can do the things you can do on this device that has a better battery life??

Resistive touch screen, Works Fine, who cares?

Screen also very delicate (already have a slight indentation in the middle of the LCD not on the screen itself) No screen protector on a $600 phone?? You stoopid of something? You should have bought the abuse Insurance Policy it seems! You blame Nokia for you banging up your phone??

Nightmare how to work out how to create a playlist, This device is not for non geeks, sorry you thought it was an iPhone, it just dawned on me that i in iPhone stands for idiot.

No equalizers Don't need them, I'm a purist, but an app with an EQ came out yesterday i think

Quite chunky device Back to the iPhone for you, or WinMo it seems, they are STYLISH aren't they!

Cheap camera cover Looks fine to me, but you're correct, it is not Titanium

Unstable OS I've installed tons of Extra-devel stuff and mine is like a rock

New software updates don’t seem to do anything. The software updates improved OVI maps greatly, made the battery last longer, and the device performs much better, especially the browser, just to mention a few
Can’t reformat device without flashing When you reformat, you have to install the OS just like a real computer!

Can’t move icons, reorganize menu or add folders I see this as a plus, sorry.

How can they talk about MeeGo and maemo6 when they haven’t kept their promise about a proper update for maemo5?


The stuff you should be complaining about is whether this device just got dead-ended with MeeGo. If we don't
get the MeeGo Full Monty release, this device is dead as we speak for all PRACTICAL purposes

[maemo900]

The stuff you should be complaining about is whether this device just got dead-ended with MeeGo. If we don't
get the MeeGo Full Monty release, this device is dead as we speak for all PRACTICAL purposes


I would love to punch you in the face!


Cons-
No portrait mode
Who Cares, did it have it before you bought it and it lost it? Didn't think so! Have you ever bought a 2-door car and later complained it wasn't a 4-door, and that was the companies fault? Landscape is not a problem but it be nice to use in portrait. Especially when my other hand is busy with your mum

Crap battery life,
You know a Full Multi tasking Open OS doing WiFi/3G that you can do the things you can do on this device that has a better battery life?? The N900 is a powerful device and the people at Nokia know this cause they built it. So why put a ***** battery in the first place?!

Resistive touch screen, Works Fine, who cares? I don’t have a problem with the resistive screen. In fact it’s the best resistive screen I have ever come across. All I said was it be nice to have a capacitive screen doesn’t mean there is a problem with the screen on the N900.

Screen also very delicate (already have a slight indentation in the middle of the LCD not on the screen itself) No screen protector on a $600 phone?? You stoopid of something? You should have bought the abuse Insurance Policy it seems! You blame Nokia for you banging up your phone?? Screen protectors protect from scratches NOT indentation.

Nightmare how to work out how to create a playlist, This device is not for non geeks, sorry you thought it was an iPhone, it just dawned on me that i in iPhone stands for idiot. What has the iPhone got to do with anything here? In fact I might just get an iPhone and get rid of the N900. How about that?!

No equalizers Don't need them, I'm a purist, but an app with an EQ came out yesterday i think Thought you were mr. know it all? What you mean “I think?” someone who claims has the N900 don’t seem to know *****

Quite chunky device Back to the iPhone for you, or WinMo it seems, they are STYLISH aren't they! Compared to an iPhone and WinMo HTC HD2, yeah it is quite thick, like you.

Cheap camera cover Looks fine to me, but you're correct, it is not Titanium At least you agree with something

Unstable OS I've installed tons of Extra-devel stuff and mine is like a rock Good for you, can’t wait till it bricks your device

New software updates don’t seem to do anything. The software updates improved OVI maps greatly, made the battery last longer, and the device performs much better, especially the browser, just to mention a few. I have noticed these changes but it should have been done in the first place. Wow maps. I didn’t spend £500 to use maps!

Can’t reformat device without flashing When you reformat, you have to install the OS just like a real computer! There should be a factory reset to erase, contacts, messages, email, saved pass words on web e.g. facebook, google mail.

And for people like you that installs apps from extra-devel should flash their device!

Can’t move icons, reorganize menu or add folders I see this as a plus, sorry. I like to keep my ***** organized

[danramos]

maemo900, I've felt that all your previous posts were perfectly fine and rightfully critical or inquisitive but your most recent post here is inflammatory. It's fine to write that kind of thing.. but then step back, before hitting POST, and take a deep breath and try to reword things so that they're not spiteful or abusive. Trust me, I know it's hard but, really, it's for the better to take that moment before hitting POST.

On that note, man do I miss the pre-N900 days on here when people were mainly ONLY complaining about Nokia as a company and otherwise helping answer questions or criticisms with solutions and suggestions.

This 'you should have researched' and 'LEARN LINUX' stuff is especially disheartening and doesn't really help make anything any more useful or intuitive. Come on, folks.


Edit, Added:
It is called "mafw-gst-eq-renderer-MGR". You can download it from Garage, then follow the instructions here and here.

Didn't somebody JUST finish telling him NOT to install that kind of thing if he wants it to be stable? So now what do you suggest he should do if he wants his N900 to remain stable for any decent length of time? I side with him on this one.. by now, the media player in the N900 should be MUCH more improved and an equalizer should have rightfully been implemented as far back as the N800, what with a DSP and all.

[craftyguy]

Successful troll is successful.

[nbvora13]

the web browser does have portrait mode already. Besides, your n900 is harder to drop if you are holding it with 2 hands all of the time.

My web browser doesn't show up in portrait mode? Am I missing any latest updates? Or is there any setting?

Thanks,
~nV!

[bandora]

OP: there are far better cons than the ones u listed in ur 1st post.. btw, nowadays you have to do RESEARCH before buying a phone because u cannot trust a company to sell a decent phone.... thats the universal excuse for defending the n900




is that supposed to b a joke????:confused:
not even half of this phone/tablet is even close to perfection.....

Yes, I believe that the N900 is really close to be the perfect device (at least for me), imo what's missing is the lack of really cool apps and (this is important for me :D games!).. But that will come in time.. Also along with some tweaks here and there, but nothing that this awesome community can't handle....

[HRZ]

My web browser doesn't show up in portrait mode? Am I missing any latest updates? Or is there any setting?

Thanks,
~nV!

http://tinyurl.com/ybxsk34

[Scottlfa]

LOL Sweet HRZ, Good to see some people from the oesf forums here too.

Meh all this rage. Researching a $600 dollar device only makes since, $50 ok maybe I take someones word for it, but not $600. As to all the complaints ... people things improve with time. Like I said in some other places ... if you hate the phone or don't like the way it does things return it and don't troll the forums. You waste everyone's time that way.

My brother in fact returned one for a Dash instead. He acknowledges the device is awesome in many ways but does not meet his immediate needs, hes not on here flaming people over it. Just politely returned his phone in his 14 days and moved on.

On the MeeGo and the much talked about "dead end" for the N900 ... I don't see this happening. MeeGo is just an alternative for the N900, Like Mer for example. Users can choose based on there daring and skill to install any of these, even forms of raw Debian for that matter. Not death to the device like a true handset would suffer. Personally I like the Maemo 5 on the N900 and it goes nicely with easy-debian packages so I have a full suite of apps I want. So MeeGo and Mer aren't even topics of worry for me, perhaps others too.

2 Cents.