we want meego 1.1 instead of maemo pr1.3 and please nokia support this for nokia n900

[ajflex]

Nothing wrong with the name meego it's a combine of maemo and moblin it's more closer to maemo mae to mee mo to go.
No problem with meego os it look promising for n900.
Maemo pr 1.2 is the last for nokia n900 as for maemo 5.
Meego os with be on nokia n900 which is better why 2 in 1 more is alway better plus everything that wasn't possible is now flash 10.1 and more and more.
I am respecting that nokia will make this opportunity don't past them bye n900 is the perfect platform for meego os with its hardware and capabilities functionality.

[Ronaldo]

nokia is going to do this because your started a thread for it.:rolleyes:

[ajflex]

it a look at this screenshoot
http://www.gsmarena.com/meego_features_explained_atom_cpu_gets_compatible_ with_android-news-1576.php

[cryox92]

Have you ever heard of paragraphs or even punctuation?

[Dave999]

i will not change to first meego device unless ovi store is up an running and have usefull apps and a few meego releases have been out on market for a while. i think maemo can live atleast two more years so please give us 1.3.

[johnel]

maemo and MeeGo are on completely separate development paths.

MeeGo and maemo are independent of each other.

MeeGo is not the default operating system. Maemo is the default operating system.

The n900 is being used to develop MeeGo for the next generation of devices.

I suggest you search the forums for MeeGo-based posts and dare I say even Google too.

I suggest you use capital letters in your posts.

I suggest you use full-stops/periods in your posts.

I suggest spell -checking your posts too.

Capital letters usually help me find the start of a sentence and full-stops/periods usually tell me when a sentence finishes.

[fpp]

What is this "we want" ? How do *you* know what *I* want ?...

[volt]

Personally, I'd rather see a well rounded version of Maemo than a half done version of MeeGo. I don't expect a first usable version of the next OS to work better than a version 1.3 of the previous iteration.

MeeGo 1.3 on the other hand...

[ajflex]

What is this "we want" ? How do *you* know what *I* want ?...

For nokia n900 this means more apps and more games more. check iphone apps site over ten thousand apps(10000).
Maemo os as it self have 252 apps & games together
it does make any sense we have a powerful platform, wasting time it not fear for us to suffer just because it open and free and nothing it's wrong with free apps.
But if meego os the developer will have more platform to for and a win win situation.
Listen i personel dont care other option.
I love my n900 and more apps and games is always better for a platform.

[cryox92]

For nokia n900 this means more apps and more games more. check iphone apps site over ten thousand apps(10000).
Maemo os as it self have 252 apps & games together
it does make any sense we have a powerful platform, wasting time it not fear for us to suffer just because it open and free and nothing it's wrong with free apps.
But if meego os the developer will have more platform to for and a win win situation.
Listen i personel dont care other option.
I love my n900 and more apps and games is always better for a platform.
True,there is lack of applications.But as for now i`d suggest you take the survey,wait till 1.2 shows up,then we`ll see how things are progressing.I wouldnt swap to MeeGo atm.

[lucas777]

cool story bro

[efekt]

Nokia: ok, we just waited for a post like this to start moving things, and now after you've said it we can begin.

[philh]

Please speak for yourself.

[theflew]

For nokia n900 this means more apps and more games more. check iphone apps site over ten thousand apps(10000).
Maemo os as it self have 252 apps & games together
it does make any sense we have a powerful platform, wasting time it not fear for us to suffer just because it open and free and nothing it's wrong with free apps.
But if meego os the developer will have more platform to for and a win win situation.
Listen i personel dont care other option.
I love my n900 and more apps and games is always better for a platform.

MeeGo apps if written in QT would run on Maemo 5.

[shadowjk]

I suspect if they aren't written in 15 you couldn't call them MeeGo apps

[russo_br]

I've been involved with this discussion as well and personally hope that Meego is supported by Nokia for the N900...

But there is another thread(s) about the same subject, please pay attention to the automatic search when creating new threads...

Admins, please merge this thread with the "Meego on N900" similar ones.

[Kham]

maemo and MeeGo are on completely separate development paths.

MeeGo and maemo are independent of each other.

MeeGo is not the default operating system. Maemo is the default operating system.

The n900 is being used to develop MeeGo for the next generation of devices.

I suggest you search the forums for MeeGo-based posts and dare I say even Google too.

I suggest you use capital letters in your posts.

I suggest you use full-stops/periods in your posts.

I suggest spell -checking your posts too.

Capital letters usually help me find the start of a sentence and full-stops/periods usually tell me when a sentence finishes.

Relax! Why trash someone for their lack of English grammatical efficiency? We all know that there is a multitude of international posters on this form. By the way, smart guy, during your verbal masturbation session you forgot to capitalize the first letter of your first sentence! Uhhhh ohhhhhhh...

Yours Truly,
Kham

[ajflex]

MeeGo apps if written in QT would run on Maemo 5.

Maemo 5 os is good but time for changes for game apps and other stuff it's not happening.

Meego Os is far supreme over Maemo 5 Os.

Why as I said earlier in the post.

This is fact 252 apps to slow and many developer not developing for maemo 5.

Question to you
1. Is there a good car game that use graphic acc for maemo 5 answer no
2. Is there a any good frist person player game no
3 fighting game no
etc.
question
there is a issues the codec when playing videos and and double folder and file no matter what i cant fix


to slow for production
would it benefit we the customer who is supporting, i have been nokia support from the first symbian till now.

Symbian built also support 3rd party developer and other phone moto samsung sony ericsson and etc. look all the apps and game is for symbian over 4977 apps are there.
quote quote
Meego Os will put our n900 in the direction.

[ajflex]

Kham respect

[Chrome]

YOU MAD BRO? Actually I'm very satisfied with Maemo OS, so speak for yourself.

[TRF-Inferno]

Meego Os is far supreme over Maemo 5 Os.

Why as I said earlier in the post.

This is fact 252 apps to slow and many developer not developing for maemo 5.

Question to you
1. Is there a good car game that use graphic acc for maemo 5 answer no
2. Is there a any good frist person player game no
3 fighting game no
etc.
question
there is a issues the codec when playing videos and and double folder and file no matter what i cant fix.
So you think Maemo is automatically inferior to Meego because it doesn't have certain games that appeal to you? The video playback issue will be fixed in PR1.2 by the way.

[christexaport]

MeeGo and Maemo have the same app frameworks, so the same apps apply to both. I'm beginning to think the dummy level is rising fast for some reason.

[Bratag]

Do you ever just want to grab people and shake them. I feel that way whenever another pointless thread appears containing.

a) "Goodbye N900 - I am going to phone XYZ" - ***** session to follow
b) "Nokia LISTEN TO UZ" - When this isnt a Nokia forum
c) "This phone sucks and is not what I thought it would be" - Despite the numerous reviews and threads here stating exactly what it was.
d) "How do I xyz" - Usually posted above a thread that says "Here is how you XYZ"
e) All of the above.

I weep for the future.

[jackie_jagger]

I think it would make more sense if Maemo PR1.3 comes and also at the same time users have an option to flash their phone to MeeGo 1.1, if the response for MeeGO from n900 users is good, PR1.4 could be replaced for MeeGo 1.1 !!

Just my two cents

[mobiledivide]

b) "Nokia LISTEN TO UZ" - When this isnt a Nokia forum

I weep for the future.

This is the biggest misconception around here. The community concept is relatively autonomous from Nokia, they simply sponsor it.
The survey on maemo.nokia.com that has been stickied is probably the best way to complain directly to Nokia.

[SubCore]

Question to you
1. Is there a good car game that use graphic acc for maemo 5 answer no
2. Is there a any good frist person player game no
3 fighting game no

go get a PSP or GBA or something.
Meego won't suddenly give you dozens of 3D games.

you have really high hopes for Meego, i fear you'll be disappointed once it comes out.

btw, i'm pretty sure we'll see at least 2 more firmware updates for Maemo before Meego is consumer-ready.

[kazuki]

nokia is not even giving us pr 1.2, what make u think they'll give us anything meego related?

[eikido]

i just think that a finished meego is veeeery far away. i'm talking about MINIMUM 1 year

[gryedouge]

nokia is not even giving us pr 1.2, what make u think they'll give us anything meego related?

Agreed and what makes the whiney masses think that Meego will be better on it's first outing?

Lets just be patient and take things as they come. We will get there eventually. :rolleyes::D

This is, after all, a work in progress...

[Laughing Man]

Maemo 5 os is good but time for changes for game apps and other stuff it's not happening.

Meego Os is far supreme over Maemo 5 Os.

Why as I said earlier in the post.

This is fact 252 apps to slow and many developer not developing for maemo 5.

Question to you
1. Is there a good car game that use graphic acc for maemo 5 answer no
2. Is there a any good frist person player game no
3 fighting game no
etc.
question
there is a issues the codec when playing videos and and double folder and file no matter what i cant fix


to slow for production
would it benefit we the customer who is supporting, i have been nokia support from the first symbian till now.

Symbian built also support 3rd party developer and other phone moto samsung sony ericsson and etc. look all the apps and game is for symbian over 4977 apps are there.
quote quote
Meego Os will put our n900 in the direction.

Err.. so would QT Compatibility. QT compatibility = libraries are the same across the operating systems (Maemo/Meego/KDE/whatever). Thus any app that's written in QT 4.6 will work on any other device that runs QT 4.6. Of course if the program is written to use a Quad-Core processor obviously it would run terrible on a device that has lower specs.

If Meego didn't have QT compatbility it wouldn't result in any significant increase in games, 3rd programs, etc.. since Meego is spread so far among different devices (TVs, netbooks, phones, etc..etc..). Thus if it wasn't for QT compatibility you would just get a splintering effect with each Meego instance running its own apps and own libraries. What developer would want to build an app on that platform compared to say the iPhone OS, or Android.

The only benefit of running Meego on the N900 would be continual OS level bug fixes (not application compatibility since Maemo will be getting QT 4.6 with PR 1.2). But seeing as how Meego's first release will be 1.1 it'll probably be just as buggy as most first generation operating systems are.

[NokTokDaddy]

Check this (http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/04/15/nokia.may.go.below.n900.in.price.with.large.screen/)breaking news out:

http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/04/15/nokia.may.go.below.n900.in.price.with.large.screen/

I've started a thread for it here (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=612259#post612259)

If true, this surely changes the whole issue of Meego vs Maemo on the N900

[tissot]

i just think that a finished meego is veeeery far away. i'm talking about MINIMUM 1 year

This should be pointed more often in here.

First, Nokia's MeeGo is Harmattan, Harmattan is Maemo 6. I'm not saying Harmattan/MeeGo will be perfect from the start, but people shouldn't think that this Nokia's MeeGo is totally fresh start.
Harmattan was already introduced in 2008 and i honestly think it will be superior to Maemo 5 as far as loking from the user point of view.

Not directly to you eikido, but just to say it again that videos and pictures we have seen in these couple of days are from Intels Moblin/MeeGo and wont resemble Harmattan/MeeGo.

[russo_br]

The only benefit of running Meego on the N900 would be continual OS level bug fixes (not application compatibility since Maemo will be getting QT 4.6 with PR 1.2).

Sorry, but this QT 4.6 speech is a great marketing argument... There is no warranty that a Developer will support both Meego and Maemo versions and the source code is exactly the same between both O.S.

I remember the cross-platform appeal at the announcement of JAVA language. Theoretically the same application would run on different platforms, but in real life there is always some restrictions, specially for more complex apps. I know QT 4.6 is different, but I wouldn't bet on seamlessly compatibility among all kind of devices.

[Bratag]

Sorry, but this QT 4.6 speech is a great marketing argument... There is no warranty that a Developer will support both Meego and Maemo versions and the source code is exactly the same between both O.S.

I remember the cross-platform appeal at the announcement of JAVA language. Theoretically the same application would run on different platforms, but in real life there is always some restrictions, specially for more complex apps. I know QT 4.6 is different, but I wouldn't bet on seamlessly compatibility among all kind of devices.

Thats because you dont fully understand the joy that is coding in Qt. I have written a couple of apps. With a recompile I can run the exact same source on my Windows machine, my linux machine and my N900 (which I guess is a linux machine). Now granted if you are making specific calls to a hardware layer and that hardware isnt the same on all devices then yes you may have issues. But as far as portability of Qt code, then yes the source code IS the same between platforms. The only thing that changes is the compile flags.

[russo_br]

Thats because you dont fully understand the joy that is coding in Qt.

You're right, I just did SW devel in the beginning of my career, so I never wrote any code in QT. But from my IT experience there is always a catch behind the speeches... I can be wrong about QT 4.6, and would be glad to admit if it happens. Just want to wait and see to believe it will really be a groundbreaking technology.

[Laughing Man]

Sorry, but this QT 4.6 speech is a great marketing argument... There is no warranty that a Developer will support both Meego and Maemo versions and the source code is exactly the same between both O.S.

I remember the cross-platform appeal at the announcement of JAVA language. Theoretically the same application would run on different platforms, but in real life there is always some restrictions, specially for more complex apps. I know QT 4.6 is different, but I wouldn't bet on seamlessly compatibility among all kind of devices.

Then there's going be hell from a developer and a consumer standpoint when Meego is found on so many different devices and one app created in QT 4.6 in one Meego instance isn't compatible with another Meego device. And putting Meego on the N900 wouldn't have much of a net benefit from an application standpoint anyway.

Like I said, don't expect seamlessly compatible (e.g. my example of an app being coded for use on a Quad Core processor). If an app uses multi-touch in a capacitative function, well obviously that wouldn't work on a resistive touchscreen anyway. But if a developer creates an app that doesn't have any device or resource specific requirements (like in the examples) then an N900 (Maemo5 w/ QT 4.6) should be able to run the same app as any device running (Meego w/ QT 4.6). Granted there are exceptions to the rule (Android for example). Though part of their problem is the wide variation in what's supported in the operating system versions.

At the very least if Nokia has no plans to bring Meego to the N900 they should at least keep QT compatibility up to date.

[Bratag]

Then there's going be hell from a developer and a consumer standpoint when Meego is found on so many different devices and one app created in QT 4.6 in one Meego instance isn't compatible with another Meego device. And putting Meego on the N900 wouldn't have much of a net benefit from an application standpoint anyway.

Like I said, don't expect seamlessly compatible (e.g. my example of an app being coded for use on a Quad Core processor). If an app uses multi-touch in a capacitative function, well obviously that wouldn't work on a resistive touchscreen anyway. But if a developer creates an app that doesn't have any device or resource specific requirements (like in the examples) then an N900 (Maemo5 w/ QT 4.6) should be able to run the same app as any device running (Meego w/ QT 4.6). Granted there are exceptions to the rule (Android for example). Though part of their problem is the wide variation in what's supported in the operating system versions.

At the very least if Nokia has no plans to bring Meego to the N900 they should at least keep QT compatibility up to date.

They are - 1.2 brings the latest release of Qt - it also incorporates it as part of the base OS instead of as an extra.

[Laughing Man]

I know Bratag, what I meant was in the future. E.g. if Meego gets QT 4.7, then Maemo should also get QT 4.7. For maybe 2-3 more years. =P

[lwa]

I'd much prefer pr1.3 than meego 1.1...

Realistically nobody really knows anything about Meego other than the bits of vague fluff at meego.com and everyones arguement is maemo is dead and the only way to get continual support is meego. If pr1.3 was coming out it would mean ongoing support so it is a mute point. The meego arguement is nothing more than the grass is greener on the other side.

Nokia could annouce they were making a new OS called...um.. Meblo tomorrow and within minutes the forum would be filled with crap about seculation if we are getting it, how much better the n900 would be if it had it, and how nokia doesnt care about us if we dont get it, even though these people know nothing about it except a vague description which is no different to maemos description and some nonsense name...

[Bratag]

I know Bratag, what I meant was in the future. E.g. if Meego gets QT 4.7, then Maemo should also get QT 4.7. For maybe 2-3 more years. =P

Good point - but even should the abandon us. We can always compile the libs for the N900 and publish them via extras the way they are done now. Not ideal I know but its a solution.

[volt]

A lot depends on the questions "How backward compatible are Qt applications?" and "Will anyone port Qt 4.7 to Maemo 5?"

I guess Qt 5 isn't coming the next 12 months, so no need to won't worry about a major version incompatibility. But Qt 4.7 is already on the way (http://qt.nokia.com/developer/qt-qtcreator-prerelease):

"Qt 4.7 and Qt Creator 2.0 are planned for release in mid-2010 as part of the Qt SDK."

"Technology Previews of Qt 4.7 and Qt Creator 2.0 are now available for download testing and feedback."


So, our carrot to keep fear, uncertainty and doubt down is that we're promised an almost-instantly obsolete Qt version. I don't know anything about backward compatibility on the Qt framework, but on a lot of other frameworks, there'd be cause for concern.

See, I never felt very much comfort in the statements that we don't need officially supported MeeGo because we will have Qt 4.6. That's much like saying we don't need corn fields because we are promised a share of this years crop. ;)

Since I saw the progress of porting applications and applets from Maemo 4 to Maemo 5, I hold back my enthusiasm a little when it comes to new versions on this platform. Some of my most-used thingies on Maemo 4 never reached Maemo 5, others are stuck in maemo-devel.

Surely this will be better with a Qt framework used across platforms, but that must mean that the version on the N900 is compatible to the versions people elsewhere use. And summer 2010 is not a long time horizon. It seems 4.7 will be out on devices very soon (http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/install-symbian.html). Sooner than the first MeeGo phone.

Before I get shot down, let me say that I do not and did not expect this phone to be supported forever. When Nokia announced MeeGo, I did not think "Nokia needs to give us that!" I don't have expectations to a lot of company-paid development on any device once it's past it's initial marketing stages. Only enough to narrowly satisfy the ever-rising expectations in the market. Getting official support for MeeGo would be way beyond that.

I thought "this means developers will move their focus away from Maemo and over on MeeGo as soon as they can manage, because the current platform is a dead end". That means over on Qt, which Maemo will support. I thought this will mean people will start to rebuild the already existing applications on Qt instead of developing them further. And then they will move on to Qt 4.7 when Qt 4.7 is out.

I hope Qt developers will make backward compatible applets. If not, I fail to see why Qt 4.6 promises such an amazing future. The way I see it, the promise is that GTK+ development of existing products will be reduced and Qt development will increase on rewritten products. Rewritten usually means better, but it also means a significant delay. And significant delay means Qt 4.7 time.

I really think swapping to a cross platform Qt framework is a very smart move, and that Nokia and future Nokia customers will benefit from it. On the other hand, I also believe that it takes away resources (http://twitter.com/PeterMeeGo/status/11875032689), developers, and value from the Maemo 5 platform earlier than it would otherways do. At the moment, developers are even stopped from adding applications to the repositories because the new firmware is being held back, and the Qt framework version incompatibilities (http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/libqt4-maemo5-dbus/4.6.2~git20100212-0maemo1/) seems to be one of the issues (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=49335) that prevents developers from publishing lately.

So, back to my original statement in this thread - I'd rather see Maemo 5 firmware 1.3 than MeeGo 1.1. Well, that sort of depends on where they drop N900 support. I think the N900 is well out of any "can expect new functionality" phase long before MeeGo is "done" enough to fully replace a 1.3 firmware.

Wow, this post ended up being far too long.

[F2thaK]

how hot is too hot, according to cupfreqUI app?? thanks im around 30 deg celcius..

[attila77]

I know Bratag, what I meant was in the future. E.g. if Meego gets QT 4.7, then Maemo should also get QT 4.7. For maybe 2-3 more years. =P

For the record, Fremantle sort-of already has 4.7. At least in the near future, it's going to have the same status as 4.6 does now.

[ajflex]

I am going give a example
nokia 5800 at first the cpu was 369mhz now is 484mhz same as nokia n97
same amount of ram 128 mb right
When 5230 came out has look as 5800, but did look out dated.
v40.0 make it look more as n97 cool with similar feature right.

Now n900 maemo 5 not much apps right. But with meego os 1.1 and other os to come, there will be more games and apps.

Plus (2)two OS feature in 1 come people i personnel don't want to be left behind

Another example
look at Iphone every iphone get same update 2g to 3gs
now v4

make sense to you?

want a powerful phone that is not a tester cool.

N900 is the best phone eveeeerrry of it's time with and the best platform for meego OS quoter it as cloud feature means you can access your info any from laptop using xp, vista, win7, mac,linux and also any device using similar os and sync with your tv how cool is that.

[attila77]

Now n900 maemo 5 not much apps right. But with meego os 1.1 and other os to come, there will be more games and apps.

Please realize that the two are really closely related. It’s like saying Windows Vista has more games than Windows XP. Sure, there will be more apps, but with good Qt support, they will just as easily be able to run on Maemo 5.

look at Iphone every iphone get same update 2g to 3gs
now v4
make sense to you?

Err, no. The original iPhone is NOT getting iPhoneOS 4, and the iPhone 3G is getting just a subset in functionality.

[nosa101]

Now n900 maemo 5 not much apps right. But with meego os 1.1 and other os to come, there will be more games and apps.



More OS =/= more apps

[gabby131]

i just got this one.

http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Maemo-6-MeeGo-1-1-Review-Video-

[attila77]

Maemo 6 != MeeGo 1.1 (the video shows MeeGo)

[ThomasAH]

i just got this one.

http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entry/Maemo-6-MeeGo-1-1-Review-Video-

What gave you the idea to respond to a thread that has been dead for over 3 months? Also, is the news related or revelant to this thread's discussion?

[smoothc]

I want pr1.3

[mikecomputing]

The standard theme and UI in meego looks like ****.

So no I dont want Meego as long as it looks like Android clone I preferer Maemo5 and a new PR release.

[mikecomputing]

For nokia n900 this means more apps and more games more. check iphone apps site over ten thousand apps(10000).
Maemo os as it self have 252 apps & games together
it does make any sense we have a powerful platform, wasting time it not fear for us to suffer just because it open and free and nothing it's wrong with free apps.
But if meego os the developer will have more platform to for and a win win situation.
Listen i personel dont care other option.
I love my n900 and more apps and games is always better for a platform.

Who cares howmany apps Iphone have? Are all those 100000 in good shape? probadly not. Quntity of apps says nothing of how the quality of the OS or phones/tabletcomputer!!

[cjp]

YOU MAD BRO? Actually I'm very satisfied with Maemo OS, so speak for yourself.

I'm really satsified as well. I'm kind of fearing that Meego will be too Androidy for my tastes. ATM Maemo is really serving all my needs well, so I don't know... I might go another full year with the N900, hoping that Maemo5 will be the OS on it.

[gabby131]

What gave you the idea to respond to a thread that has been dead for over 3 months? Also, is the news related or revelant to this thread's discussion?

well, its better than to make a new thread that the subject is 3 months dead.

[AlMehdi]

I too want pr1.3

[Dave999]

As it is right now. I want Pr 1.3.

I dont think meego will be better than maemo 5 until at least a year from now.

[maemoiv]

I don't care if it's pr 1.3 or meego, just optimize the code, no memory leaks etc.

[Jack6428]

I don't want Meego, ever! Look at MeeGo 1.1! It's so ugly! Why does EVERYONE need to copy the IPhone's UI? Copy an OS, which is primitive? I don't want a device which will look like an iPhone OS! Bada, Android, LG, MeeGo...everyone is copying iPhone like it would be godlike when infact it's primitive crap! Wake the f*** up Nokia and create something worth buying again! The reason I bought the N900 was because it is unique, because no other mobile phone/device is the same. I can't say that about MeeGo. And don't anyone dare tell me the UI will change dramatically, because it won't. There will be just minor changes with focus on updating all the features of the OS, because those right now are very limited! So all in all, NO! I do not want MeeGo on the N900, I WANT MAEMO5 PR1.3!!! Thank you!

[wmarone]

This is why it's best if pure consumers aren't shown the process of OS development.

I don't want Meego, ever! Look at MeeGo 1.1! It's so ugly! Why does EVERYONE need to copy the IPhone's UI? Copy an OS, which is primitive? I don't want a device which will look like an iPhone OS! Bada, Android, LG, MeeGo...everyone is copying iPhone like it would be godlike when infact it's primitive crap! Wake the f*** up Nokia and create something worth buying again!
If you don't like it then go get involved, instead of just whining. Unlike iOS or Android, you can have a direct impact. Never mind that the MeeGo UI we're seeing now is:
- Not guaranteed to be what is on phones.
- Entirely geared towards being a PHONE UI, not a tablet UI.

I'd like to see what you (and others) feel is so wrong about having a phone UI that resembles other devices in the field (especially when you're trying to leverage end-user familiarity.)

On top of that, MeeGo is open source, so there's no reason the Tablet UI can't be ported over.

The reason I bought the N900 was because it is unique, because no other mobile phone/device is the same. I can't say that about MeeGo.
The important thing about Maemo has always been the technologies it employs, not the UI itself. It's not a very good phone UI, but the environment is second to none. MeeGo is that idea turned into a decent handset interface.

And don't anyone dare tell me the UI will change dramatically, because it won't. There will be just minor changes with focus on updating all the features of the OS, because those right now are very limited!
What exactly are you raging about? There's something that you're upset about and I can't see it being anythig but the -appearance- and not its functionality.

So all in all, NO! I do not want MeeGo on the N900, I WANT MAEMO5 PR1.3!!! Thank you!
Well don't worry about that. This is an OLD topic. The N900 will not officially be getting MeeGo.

[ing005]

if Meego support for N900 And Nokia Stop supporting Maemo

How about My paid Games ?

Shall I have to re-buying it ?

Sorry for my bad language.

[gerbick]

PR 1.3 will more than likely only bring Qt Mobility from what I understand.

Why not both?

[stopgap]

maemo and MeeGo are on completely separate development paths.

MeeGo and maemo are independent of each other.

MeeGo is not the default operating system. Maemo is the default operating system.

The n900 is being used to develop MeeGo for the next generation of devices.

I suggest you search the forums for MeeGo-based posts and dare I say even Google too.

I suggest you use capital letters in your posts.

I suggest you use full-stops/periods in your posts.

I suggest spell -checking your posts too.

Capital letters usually help me find the start of a sentence and full-stops/periods usually tell me when a sentence finishes.

Wow - really? I truly cannot believe people would be petty enough to post this sort of language, or to "like" this kind of post. What if the poster is foreign and English is not their first language? There's just no need for this condescension! It is, without question, 100% easier to write nothing than to make snide and patronising comments like that! :mad:

[bayernhan]

i will not change to first meego device unless ovi store is up an running and have usefull apps and a few meego releases have been out on market for a while. i think maemo can live atleast two more years so please give us 1.3.

my friend works as marketing director for Nokia in SWE, and he said the biggest feature for the meego devices will be to intergrate ovi services deeply than the n900,there are plus 2000 devs in finland working in the new framework for no toy to play with yet

[trbs]

Very happy recent OTA-upgrade user of PR1.3 here :)

[!!Nokia N900!!]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.......... ...............

[Russianhaxor]

Looks like we got both? :)

[Dave999]

poeple in this thread are still not happy.They now want pr1.4 instead of pr 1.3.

[anwar71839]

You people should know that nokia is not reading this forum. Go post this thing in nokia convo

[gerbick]

You people should know that nokia is not reading this forum. Go post this thing in nokia convo

Getting ignored in two places would really infuriate me. I'll just choose to continue to get ignored here if you don't mind.

[geneven]

Wow - really? I truly cannot believe people would be petty enough to post this sort of language, or to "like" this kind of post. What if the poster is foreign and English is not their first language? There's just no need for this condescension! It is, without question, 100% easier to write nothing than to make snide and patronising comments like that! :mad:

This site is unique in some ways, and it seems to encourage this sort of attitude. I'm not sure why. It's sickening, I think. Please, those of you who are what I call "grammar Nazis", accept this message as a token of ill-wishes from me.

[anwar71839]

Getting ignored in two places would really infuriate me. I'll just choose to continue to get ignored here if you don't mind.

I don't really care. I just wanted to say that you have a better chance of getting attention there. Plus, the thread's title is misleading - we already have meego 1.1 on the n900 dont you mean meego 1.2? which we all know will be the finished os and be ready for consumer use

[!!Nokia N900!!]

as i said, it is not enough to get new up-date with bug fixes. We need in addition new features.......................( like others OS )

What is this,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i will wait till the end of this year. if nothing happened , then will exchange N900 with E7. E7 looks much better than N900.

thnx

[Desmodromic]

as i said, it is not enough to get new up-date with bug fixes. We need in addition new features.......................( like others OS )

What is this,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i will wait till the end of this year. if nothing happened , then will exchange N900 with E7. E7 looks much better than N900.

thnx

E7 will not have maemo, but Symbian3. I did not expect much from the pr 1.3 upgrade, only some bug fixes. Not a completly new interface. I still hope there will be a meego or android version available for the N900. If not I will swap next year for a HTC Android (eg Desire HD)

[!!Nokia N900!!]

E7 will not have maemo, but Symbian3. I did not expect much from the pr 1.3 upgrade, only some bug fixes. Not a completly new interface. I still hope there will be a meego or android version available for the N900. If not I will swap next year for a HTC Android (eg Desire HD)

What is Maemo???? ( Normal OS ) many features must be pre-installed in this OS, we are downloading from here. It is just like an empty space been filled with ( Maemo Team efforts ) thanks to Maemo team. But where is Nokia???!! they didnt even update their ( Maemo Select with new features & allp. ) . huuuuh:mad:

i really doubt if N900 will get MeeGo> cos by 2011, Nokia will release device with meeGo, so why they have to look after N900??????

Besides, Symbian^3 has much much features ( Ovi Stores )+the OS features than n900 & it is super compared to previous symbians. Just see how N8 is fast.

what will nokia will do is maybe they will release PR1,4 ( more bugs fixes ) by 2011, then finish. MeeGo devices will take the lead.

As a users, N900 is useless, but as a developers it is useful & worth-able ( cos they can play with as they like ).

Such a strong device but with baisic OS. ( like 35 years man with a brain of 5 years child )
Tnx

[ruskie]

If you so want meego go and put it on your n900... Either fully or on the SDcard(I did and currently it's not a usable thing for anything).

http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/NAND
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC

I'm rather sure the N900 port of meego will be around for a while. Though frankly I won't be using it. Don't really like the UX.

[!!Nokia N900!!]

If you so want meego go and put it on your n900... Either fully or on the SDcard(I did and currently it's not a usable thing for anything).

http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/NAND
http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Install/MMC

I'm rather sure the N900 port of meego will be around for a while. Though frankly I won't be using it. Don't really like the UX.

This MeeGo 1.1 is stupid & nonsense. every time you want to switch to MeeGo, u have to out SD card & flash...what is this.!!!!!

Besides, it is not stable...........i better to feed my N900 with healthy & original software.

Thanx

[ste-phan]

What a vision you have. Take your N8 out of the box and try to upload a video or Skype call someone.
Maemo naked os?
On the contrary, very complete to people who understand their own needs that is.
But that is sometimes hard to find out for somebody who only likes to download 50 appa a day.

[mikecomputing]

yet another thread with stupidness.

If you want meego here is why not:

* meego is still not ready as a core os
* meego has no flash
* meego has no camera api ready
* meego is still slow cause drivers is not fully in place
* meego has no full phone functionality/gprs/3g
* meego ui is not fully in place
* slow firefox instead of Microb

however you can test meego if you want so this thread is pontless.
do people here think it takes five minutes too write a new os or what?? there is a reason nokia dont support meego on n900 they have to miove forward. we should be glad there still is internal nokia people who help us to make it happen et all. but at the same time it will slow down new releases likee n9.


now lets see what we have in maemo.

* full support for QT same as in symbian and it is easyier to write apps in qt/qtquick than it is on android so we will see new apps.
* working camera both official and unofficial drivers like fcamera
* working phone stack 3g/gprs
* wifi
* MicroB better and faster browser than dogslow firefox mobile.

maemo still rocks steady. Just bought an extra n900 cause there is no other computerphone out there who can replace it.

the new phone will be used as meego test platform :D

[!!Nokia N900!!]

yet another thread with stupidness.



the new phone will be used as meego test platform :D

really i am getting up-set......
since the release in 2009 till now what we get from Maemo.....huuuuuuh

i think my next step will be Nokia E7 then Nokia MeeGo devices..

U just said it: the new phone will be used as meego test platform

so the N900 is true a guinea pig for testing. How long u people were testing on this n900?? since 2009??? what we get as a user??? NOTHING

what we hear is only for developers. ( e.g Now MeeGo released but for developer. Also, QT4.7 release but for developer &........and many such an issues.)

It was better to release the N900 from the beginning for developers.
OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[fadimck]

Who told you that this is a regular phone for regular users!!!!
if you want a regular phone go and buy Nokia N8 for example !!!

This is a powerful phone where I'm using it since November 2009 and never complained from it, you can customize your Nokia Tablet (yeah it is a Tablet !!) as you wish and with applications that you will never find in any other phone.

You can use your X - Terminal to edit system files to use the maximum power of the phone...

Tell me, do you have any other phone with the powerful web Browser we have here? Do you have the option to download any torrent file (movie for example...) and connect your phone directly to your TV and watch it using the latest decoders??

Think twice before saying anything and frankly speaking if you don't know how powerful the phone is, so please sell it and buy iPhone or any other device you like..

For us, we are HAPPY with this one and its stability and its powerful customization .....

[fadimck]

By the way, I tried the following phones as a secondary one with my N900:


HTC HD2
X10
Milestone
iPhone

None of them can be compared to this one in terms of system stability and customization (expect the iPhone in the stability).

[CSAJS]

Hello all...
This is my first post here.
First i want to thanks all of u who developed all this thinks here. Its great.
I´m a new user of a N900. And i already know that i have a lot to learn. I changed because i was tired of the normal things. Like Windows. I know that my path will be tough but i´m willing to go trow.
For those that think that this is not perfect as they wished. Please do like others think what u need and design thats what this N900 is about. Don´t complain, work with this people they are here to help us using something new and creat.
Sorry for my English but i´m Portuguese.

[!!Nokia N900!!]

By the way, I tried the following phones as a secondary one with my N900:


HTC HD2
X10
Milestone
iPhone

None of them can be compared to this one in terms of system stability and customization (expect the iPhone in the stability).

of-course, cos the above phones are rubbish.......
but if you ask me, galaxy S, HTC DHD are much better in-terms of providing features & application.

Just keep in ur mind i am talking about providing features & more application like the other OS provides for it's users.

BTW, i hate Iphone & Apple in general.:D

[James_Littler]

This MeeGo 1.1 is stupid & nonsense. every time you want to switch to MeeGo, u have to out SD card & flash...what is this.!!!!!


What do you think PR1.3 brought us?!

If you're going to try to make a valid argument at least keep up to date with what's going on!

[!!Nokia N900!!]

What do you think PR1.3 brought us?!

If you're going to try to make a valid argument at least keep up to date with what's going on!

sorry pal, but the PR1.3 brought anger to me.....
really i like the n900 but cant seeit developing WHY......:( :( :(
(CRYING)

[ThomasAH]

of-course, cos the above phones are rubbish.......
but if you ask me, galaxy S, HTC DHD are much better in-terms of providing features & application.

Just keep in ur mind i am talking about providing features & more application like the other OS provides for it's users.

BTW, i hate Iphone & Apple in general.:D

Aaah, now I see why you don't like the N900: you have unrealistically high standards. Yes, the HTC HD2 s*cks because of Windows 6.5 (too bad because it has awesome hardware!), but the X10, Milestone and iPhone are all excellent phones, all with their pro's and con's. As is the N900.

Good luck waiting for the E7 though, hope it will meet your demands :)

[!!Nokia N900!!]

Aaah, now I see why you don't like the N900: you have unrealistically high standards. Yes, the HTC HD2 s*cks because of Windows 6.5 (too bad because it has awesome hardware!), but the X10, Milestone and iPhone are all excellent phones, all with their pro's and con's. As is the N900.

Good luck waiting for the E7 though, hope it will meet your demands :)

yea, hope so
thsnk

[James_Littler]

sorry pal, but the PR1.3 brought anger to me.....
really i like the n900 but cant seeit developing WHY......:( :( :(
(CRYING)

What exactly is the problem you are experiencing?

There is still no other phone out there with proper multi-tasking this good, a proper browser with flash (even if it is only 9.4 until I find a torrent of the TI 10.1 version).

If you want a pretty phone that anyone from a 5 year old to your granny can use equally well then go get one of steve hand jobs iWank fails.
If on the other hand you don't want to be controlled by the mentallity of the lowest common denominator of folk, then I suggest you stick with the N900, at least until the n9 comes along.

[gerbick]

I don't really care. I just wanted to say that you have a better chance of getting attention there. Plus, the thread's title is misleading - we already have meego 1.1 on the n900 dont you mean meego 1.2? which we all know will be the finished os and be ready for consumer use

Okay, let's be honest for a moment. This site, is built by enthusiasts and populated by enthusiasts. The folks here dig deeper into the OS than most other folks... perhaps even deeper than the majority of Nokia's testers.

With that said, complaining here is commonplace. It's invariably ignored by Nokia too. But imagine if we went to Nokia, in mass numbers and then got ignored. Imagine the backlash.

"Nokia doesn't care." "Nokia doesn't listen." "Nokia won't do a thing..."

And have it become the norm at the official site. That's a ****ing PR disaster in the making.

I'd rather encourage that we at least come to some form of consensus before going to the official site and complaining or requesting for improvements. The entropy of what we disagree and agree with would be a confusing hiss of noise that would sound like angry peasants and ultimately... also ignored.

You might not agree, or in this case "care"; however it's 100% the ****ing truth. The amount of noise generated from this forum would confuse the average company.

[!!Nokia N900!!]

I suggest you stick with the N900, at least until the n9 comes along.[/QUOTE]

Yea. I will wait though

[windows7]

i got to say i dont like the look of meego, looks cheap, maemo looks much better.

however what really matters is things like updates for flash, and other critical updates to make this device come to life.

current maemo developments such as native running webOS games are much more exciting then meego.

[shadowjk]

When version X is ready for consumers, there'll always be X+1 for developers, and X+2 not released, and X+3 getting some rought code, and X+4 in planning with X+5 being sketched out...

[!!Nokia N900!!]

When version X is ready for consumers, there'll always be X+1 for developers, and X+2 not released, and X+3 getting some rought code, and X+4 in planning with X+5 being sketched out...

LoooooL. So this means we will always wait since it iwill go under testing & developing....

This is very annoying..

[gerbick]

When version X is ready for consumers, there'll always be X+1 for developers, and X+2 not released, and X+3 getting some rought code, and X+4 in planning with X+5 being sketched out...

But it's relatively rare that there's gaps in coverage between Gadget X(+n).

[!!Nokia N900!!]

just wait for the MeeGo1.1 to be completely stable. Hope to see it before the end of the year. Also, hope the update will be over the air.

tnx

[ysss]

Who told you that this is a regular phone for regular users!!!!

Nokia's marketing.

Personally, I'm comfortable enough with *nixes to make use of any nixen boxes; but I can also see the importance of gaining mindshare and userbase for one's favored platform.

.... you can customize your Nokia Tablet (yeah it is a Tablet !!).

Uhuh, yeah. What's a tablet?
It's not even shaped like a conventional tablet anymore.

Internet brick maybe.