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sebastian_ua
04-29-2010, 07:04 AM
Many of you already know that Nokia started the contest to win 12 N8 and tickets to London. you could submit an idea for app in 4 categories and finally after some blahblah 12 persons would be the winners.

links are
http://n8makemyapp.com/
http://217.149.58.248/campaign

It started on Monday and became stupid and weird. The contest system has crazy stupid and trivial bug. It allows one person to vote million times. 2 cases:
1.
a) Open 1000 browsers before you vote for an app idea.
b) Click vote in each one by one
2.
a) Open slow browser on slow connection
b) Click vote and after you see request is sent click again and so on (before the page reloaded)
3. Vote, press F5 many times. - no working instead, the same request that Vote click sends should be resent. javascript could be used.

The caz of this bug is the stupid validation. Server does not decline vote request at all. with what they developed they assume the user would not be able to send the request since after page is reloaded, vote button would be disabled.

how stupid is that.

sorry for opening new thread, first one. hate doing new threads but I'm really angry with that.

I sent an email to Nokia Web Team abouth that (mentioned I do not to write on the forums) - no reply. And now we have many ideas with thousands of votes pulled in few minutes.

Rules say that cheaters would be removed. but that would happen later, but now, people with good ideas have no chances since their ideas are much more below the cheating ones. no chances they are being read. and the user coming to a topic with an idea will see that he has no chances since there are few 10000 ones, and would not post.

Jinux
04-29-2010, 08:01 AM
You're right, that is pretty ****. Do we think nokia will actually do anything about it?

sebastian_ua
04-29-2010, 08:09 AM
You're right, that is pretty ****. Do we think nokia will actually do anything about it?

that sucks. not sure Nokia even knows about that... there so many more options to hack that... proxies, saving the site content to local with blocking redirection so Vote button is not lost, or just dublicating the page with million Vote buttons pointed to the same idea. crazy.

I would allow voting just for the Nokia/OVI registered users. or at least asked to add number-imaged security...

there is no security in this word, as someone said. but this is stupid even for student. users with slow machines/browser/internet would not get immediate reload so button would be available. Progress bar would be showing something is happening with no result so will click vote again. and eventually will find that gives a lot of votes)

sebastian_ua
04-29-2010, 08:19 AM
One more use case: Vote; Remove appropriate cookie and vote again. Automate if you want. Checking by COOKIE is the stupidiest solution.... this is not a bug, this is super architecture and security design!

cashclientel
04-29-2010, 08:21 AM
Seems like a bit of an amateur web app design process fail.

slender
04-29-2010, 08:29 AM
Post stuff to twitter/facebook. It should take pretty much coverage depending on where of course. And describe how to hack results. I assume that is at least should take Nokias attention.

sebastian_ua
04-29-2010, 08:36 AM
not using twitter) coudl anyone do that? simplest ways:
1. Vote, remove cookie, vote, remove cookie - this could be automated
2. Slowdown the machine and connection so the page would not be reloaded after click and you will have time to click again. click, after a second click etc.
3. Open as many browsers you want. then start voting.
4. save site to the local, edit the html: copy-paste the idea you want with all the html stuff around. disable redirect in scripts. Open locally - click all buttons you created.

on Tuesday, I saw an idea took thousand in few minute while others had less than 30.

kevinm2k
04-29-2010, 08:37 AM
Not only that, there is a spelling mistake, when you go to submit an app, there is a category called 'earlier living', whereas on the home page its 'easier living'. Ive posted an app, which didn't appear so i'm having to do it again now.

kevinm2k
04-29-2010, 08:40 AM
If you go to the site and type: 'Alternative to Premium Numbers' in the search that'll be mine.

Anyone wanna vote for it?

sebastian_ua
04-30-2010, 04:59 AM
That's now crazy:
Number one voted in Think Green is idea:
'Please fix stupid security bug in voting. by stupidbug ' with 1700+ votes
Number five in games is:
'reinld32 gay!! o/. by reinld32 gay' with 9000+ votes.

reindl32, jay mendozamiranda and yannlossouarn own a lot of top rated ideas.

And that's the result of poor Nokia design. How could they create PR1.2 with no bugs if they can't create the simplest(!) voting application with good design and no bugs.

Shouldn't ve vote for idea 'Nokia, please release PR1.2 right now!'? It could be added into category 'Easier Living', also into Better World. However that's not about pr1.2... the best category for it would be Fun&Games

n8makemyapp
05-06-2010, 02:03 AM
Hi everyone,

we have implemented a lot of fixes to the voting and have tested the submitting process with lots of different browser and OS combinations.

Please let us know if you still have problems using the site or find something that is broken to bugs@n8makemyapp.com

Thanks,
Make My App team

HellFlyer
05-06-2010, 02:08 AM
Hi everyone,

we have implemented a lot of fixes to the voting and have tested the submitting process with lots of different browser and OS combinations.

Please let us know if you still have problems using the site or find something that is broken to bugs@n8makemyapp.com

Thanks,
Make My App team

So someone from Nokia is really monitoring these forums? :)

Good to hear you took care of the issue

sebastian_ua
05-11-2010, 12:10 PM
first 10 shortlisted ideas by cheaters (at least 6 of them) ... that's now funny.