Work In Progress: Carbon theme

[joppu]

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Version 0.3 in extras-devel right now. Test and report if you encounter any issues.

[Blinde]

Love it.

I have one tiny request, is it possible to change that small blue text to some other color? Or how can I change it for myself. I prefer just white.

[joppu]

Love it.

I have one tiny request, is it possible to change that small blue text to some other color? Or how can I change it for myself. I prefer just white.

It's the active text color that is actually blue-ish even in the Nseries -theme

[Blinde]

Okay.
Is it possible to change it somehow from theme's files?

[DaSilva]

Is it possible to make all rounded buttons rectangular?
Would look more modern...

[nicolai]

Thank you for your work. This is best theme
I have seen.

nicolai

[Chrome]

Been waiting this theme for long, good job and thank you.

Edit: i refreshed my catalog and i still see v0.1 :confused:

[joppu]

Is it possible to make all rounded buttons rectangular?
Would look more modern...

Well check out Array then.

Been waiting this theme for long, good job and thank you.

Edit: i refreshed my catalog and i still see v0.1 :confused:

Are you sure you are using devel and not testing?

[resplendent2209]

I had to install 0.1 which had bugs as it was showing the default background. I clicked on update and there it popped up showing 0.3 version.

I installed 0.3 and still the background is the default background.

Any thoughts?

Edit : Just uninstalled and re installed it and it's working perfect.

Very nice theme.

Thank you. Keep up the good work.

[d-iivil]

Looking good as always :)

[dana.s]

Thanks, really nice one.

[d-iivil]

Generic window frame causes small bug appearing on sides of the drop menu.

Also the list item highlight could be just a little brighter for better visibility?

[resplendent2209]

Also, while using the virtual keyboard, the keys pressed are not highlighted like the default themes do.

[d-iivil]

Also, while using the virtual keyboard, the keys pressed are not highlighted like the default themes do.

That's because you're using PR1.1 and theme is built for 1.2.

But virtual keyboard seems to be still under construction anyway (only green squares with PR1.2 is shown).

[Bingley Joe]

Really nice work -- very clean design.

I do agree with the comment about the blue text though -- it's just a bit saturated/primary, IMO... blue is good, but something a little less 'hot' (for lack of a better word) would make it a bit more readable in contrasty light.

Great theme though :)

[anidel]

Really loving this theme!

Is there a way to thank you (donate) for your work?

[joppu]

I do agree with the comment about the blue text though -- it's just a bit saturated/primary, IMO... blue is good, but something a little less 'hot' (for lack of a better word) would make it a bit more readable in contrasty light.

Sure, I'll desaturate it a bit.

Really loving this theme!

Is there a way to thank you (donate) for your work?

Thanks! I'm really just doing this for fun so I currently don't have any way to donate to me. People enjoying me themes would be the best reward. :)

Well if some people are actually willingly to donate, I might get a PayPal someday...

[cjp]

This looks really cool. I really like the rounded buttons.

Mm-m! Yet another reason why I can't wait for 1.2.

[F2thaK]

d/l right now

[atz6975]

adopted! thank you very much.

[vonbraun66]

Really nice work -- very clean design.

I do agree with the comment about the blue text though -- it's just a bit saturated/primary, IMO... blue is good, but something a little less 'hot' (for lack of a better word) would make it a bit more readable in contrasty light.

Great theme though :)

Very nice theme indeed. If you would replace the blue with orange, I think I would even like it more.
Or why not give us the choice with a Carbon Blue and Carbon Orange theme ?

The buttons are really cool.

[Blinde]

Light blue and it will be perfect :)

Orange sounds nice too for summer.

[gabby131]

awesome theme!

i know this is too much but hope it'll be available in other colors (like red, blue etc.) but the same hue and texture.

thank you very much!

[HellFlyer]

Well check out Array then.



Are you sure you are using devel and not testing?

I have both Array and Carbon , and I love them :D

I guess Carbon is still work in progress right? I noticed a small bug, when I press power button to swipe unlock the slider is quite long and when you stretch it looks ugly and unpolished , are you aware of that issue? or is its because of PR 1.1.1 ? :)

[F2thaK]

virtual keyboard is horrendous!

(with leaked pr1.2)

[joppu]

I have both Array and Carbon , and I love them :D

I guess Carbon is still work in progress right? I noticed a small bug, when I press power button to swipe unlock the slider is quite long and when you stretch it looks ugly and unpolished , are you aware of that issue? or is its because of PR 1.1.1 ? :)

Yeah, it's because of the limited color depth of the N900, I'll see if I can fix it.

virtual keyboard is horrendous!

(with leaked pr1.2)

I thought those images were not in use, at least on PR1.1.1 so I didn't bother creating those images. Well it seems the PR1.2 keyboard uses them then...

awesome theme!

i know this is too much but hope it'll be available in other colors (like red, blue etc.) but the same hue and texture.

thank you very much!

I really wouldn't want to do this because it would flood the repos with stuff like

Carbon Red
Carbon Purple
Carbon Pink
Carbon Orange
Carbon Yellow
Carbon Green
Carbon Blue

And we wouldn't want that, right?

[Chrome]

Hey joppu, are you working on an android theme now?

[joppu]

Nope, since I want to get this finished first.

[Chrome]

Ok, your themes rock, i demand more themes from you! :P

keep it up :)

[kozij]

I agree, you shouldn't flood the repo's with different colours, so i think either make the blue text lighter, eg. white or light blue, or give instructions for people to edit themselves, which would save you the trouble. good work with the theme, its my default :) also convo colours are a bit funny looking. Me is like a cyan blue, and the recipient is green. Doesnt match well with the grey theme. Maybe light blue and light grey ?

[PipoXtreme]

nice work.. I like the blue text :) Can you change the grey-black line from the screen of program update as well to this blue color ??
will be nice..

[d-iivil]

Carbon Red
Carbon Purple
Carbon Pink
Carbon Orange
Carbon Yellow
Carbon Green
Carbon Blue

And we wouldn't want that, right?

But this would save you answering the millions requests about colors people want to have...
And what's the downside of having different variations available?

[joppu]

But this would save you answering the millions requests about colors people want to have...
And what's the downside of having different variations available?

Clogging up the repositories. I know you like to have variations for all the different people and it's fine, but my themes are more like "by me, for me". That sounds strange, I know, but that's the way it is.

Also, this theme is mostly monochromatic ie. also the hilights, so what would the actual benefit? ActiveTextColor is different hue?

Just sayin'

[d-iivil]

Clogging up the repositories.

There's some limit set for user to upload stuff to repos? Funny, haven't noticed and heard no-one saying anything like that...

[joppu]

There's some limit set for user to upload stuff to repos? Funny, haven't noticed and heard no-one saying anything like that...

Yes, but it would still create many "duplicate" entries in the repo that takes up space.

Actually one possible workaround for me would be leaving the color variants in -devel...

Or as debian packages.

[PipoXtreme]

yes this thinking I like to many variations is difficult .. but I think the black - gray line with the black text isn't so usefull isn't it?

[d-iivil]

Yes, but it would still create many "duplicate" entries in the repo that takes up space.

Actually one possible workaround for me would be leaving the color variants in -devel...

Or as debian packages.

I still don't get it. Are you paying something for the hard drive space @ maemo-repos or why are you so worried about taking few megs of disk space? :D

And leaving in devel... wouldn't that take the exact same amount on space?

[joppu]

yes this thinking I like to many variations is difficult .. but I think the black - gray line with the black text isn't so usefull isn't it?

Please post a screenshot or something because I don't understand what are you saying.

I still don't get it. Are you paying something for the hard drive space @ maemo-repos or why are you so worried about taking few megs of disk space? :D

And leaving in devel... wouldn't that take the exact same amount on space?

Let's say there are are 64 packages in a hypotethical "themes" category. but in reality there are only 8 different themes that have 8 different variants. Wouldn't that be a little excessive?

And if they would be in "desktop" categogy, they would eclipse some other packages with their sheer mass.

That's what I'm trying to say.

[d-iivil]

Let's say there are are 64 packages in a hypotethical "themes" category. but in reality there are only 8 different themes that have 8 different variants. Wouldn't that be a little excessive?

Umm... that's why we have ability to scroll down the list, don't we?

[joppu]

Umm... that's why we have ability to scroll down the list, don't we?

Sure, but this is still a matter of principle for me.

It's not like someone could force me into creating color variants. :P

[d-iivil]

Sure, but this is still a matter of principle for me.

It's not like someone could force me into creating color variants. :P

Yepyep :) Sorry for the offtopic.

[PipoXtreme]

you know now what I wanna tell you ? ;)

[joppu]

Oh, that again. I have already decided that it will not affect the general visibility that much, so I won't be "fixing" it.

[cjp]

I think its the perfectionist in Joppu that disallows him from doing multiple color schemes. He likes to do it exactly the way he imagined it, with no "compromise" of other variations to please others.

I atleast share this attitude in things like these, so might be projecting how I feel about it into this.

To me it feels like a very Finnish mentality :D

[fms]

Hello, Joppu

A few problems I have found with the theme:
1. Notifications are shown in gray instead of yellow. Yes, I understand that this may have been a style decision, but they are notifications. They have to stand out.
2. Selected list icons have got left/right edges. This causes unpleasant visual effects in multi-column lists. Try selecting an entry from the phone log or contacts.
3. Volume/position slide in the Video Player shows up with the wrong background.
4. There is a gray frame around the screen in the Image Gallery.
5. The default background color (gray) messes up some other apps as well, such as BatteryGraph.
6. Sliders (such as volume slider) show up some color-banding.
7. Please, make shortcut icons larger, the same size as in the original themes. There are really other ways to save desktop space, without making shortcut icons look truncated.
8. Contact shortcuts come up in green, without contact faces.

That is all I could have found by now.

[joppu]

1. Notifications are shown in gray instead of yellow. Yes, I understand that this may have been a style decision, but they are notifications. They have to stand out.
I'll probably have to change it into a lighter tone like I have done in Array. But not yellow.

2. Selected list icons have got left/right edges. This causes unpleasant visual effects in multi-column lists. Try selecting an entry from the phone log or contacts.
This is intentional.

3. Volume/position slide in the Video Player shows up with the wrong background.
Probably won't fix since it's a problem with the application, not the theme.

4. There is a gray frame around the screen in the Image Gallery.
Ditto.

5. The default background color (gray) messes up some other apps as well, such as BatteryGraph.
BatteryGraph's fault, nothing I can fix.

6. Sliders (such as volume slider) show up some color-banding.
This is due to the limited color depth of the N900, I'll see if I can get in fixed.

7. Please, make shortcut icons larger, the same size as in the original themes. There are really other ways to save desktop space, without making shortcut icons look truncated.
This one is a difficult since I really like the smaller ones. But will try enlarging them.

8. Contact shortcuts come up in green, without contact faces.
This shouldn't be happening, it's a bug with the graphics handling that it can't update the contact shortcut images properly. Please reboot a few times.

[fms]

I'll probably have to change it into a lighter tone like I have done in Array. But not yellow.
At least make it stand out! Use blue or something... Same goes for those progress bars - their labels are almost invisible right now (see screenshot shown above).

This is intentional.
Looks pretty ugly though =( A lot of these lists were not supposed to look like this.

Probably won't fix since it's a problem with the application, not the theme. Ditto. BatteryGraph's fault, nothing I can fix.
Again, blaming it on the applications will not work, as users are stuck with these applications anyway. Nobody is going to fix them. Hell, way more serious problems in built-in apps like Gallery are not getting fixed by Nokia.

This shouldn't be happening, it's a bug with the graphics handling that it can't update the contact shortcut images properly. Please reboot a few times.
Understood.

[joppu]

If the whole Maemo 5 is designed to work with back backgrounds and black backgrounds only, there's no way for me to fix it, other than using a black background which I do not want. It's just the reality.

Edit:

http://i41.tinypic.com/1zr0z0g.jpg

Doesn't look half bad, or am I missing something here?

[fms]

If the whole Maemo 5 is designed to work with back backgrounds and black backgrounds only, there's no way for me to fix it, other than using a black background which I do not want. It's just the reality.
I am afraid, if the whole Maemo5 is designed to work with the black backgrounds only, then the only remaining option is to use a black background. Not doing it out of principle will do nothing to making your theme blend in with the actual applications.

http://i41.tinypic.com/1zr0z0g.jpg
Doesn't look half bad, or am I missing something here?
Yea, BatteryGraph just looks a bit weird on the gray background, almost like there is something in the empty parts of the graph. Unfortunately, the Gallery, the Video Player, and anything that uses multicolumn lists are not blending in as well.

[d-iivil]

I am afraid, if the whole Maemo5 is designed to work with the black backgrounds only, then the only remaining option is to use a black background. Not doing it out of principle will do nothing to making your theme blend in with the actual applications.


Yea, BatteryGraph just looks a bit weird on the gray background, almost like there is something in the empty parts of the graph. Unfortunately, the Gallery, the Video Player, and anything that uses multicolumn lists are not blending in as well.

But maybe if people would like to have lighter themes also and designers will create lighter themes then just maybe the developers will code their apps correctly and make them a) follow themming completely or b) make their app use completely their own coloring instead of taking bits and pieces from theme?

[fms]

But maybe if people would like to have lighter themes also and designers will create lighter themes then just maybe the developers will code their apps correctly
Don't count on it, dude. Especially with respect to Nokia developers. Empirical data is grossly against your aspirations.

[joppu]

I am afraid, if the whole Maemo5 is designed to work with the black backgrounds only, then the only remaining option is to use a black background. Not doing it out of principle will do nothing to making your theme blend in with the actual applications.

I'd say the media player and gallery bugs are not not major as they are not blocking the usability.

Yea, BatteryGraph just looks a bit weird on the gray background, almost like there is something in the empty parts of the graph. Unfortunately, the Gallery, the Video Player, and anything that uses multicolumn lists are not blending in as well.

What's the problem with the multicolumn lists?

[fms]

I'd say the media player and gallery bugs are not not major as they are not blocking the usability.
All the same, I wouldn't use a theme that has got this kind of dimples, when there is a working default theme available.

What's the problem with the multicolumn lists?
When you select a row, every column in the list gets its own full frame. To test, check the Call Log or the Contacts List.

[gabby131]

I really wouldn't want to do this because it would flood the repos with stuff like

Carbon Red
Carbon Purple
Carbon Pink
Carbon Orange
Carbon Yellow
Carbon Green
Carbon Blue

And we wouldn't want that, right?

okay......fully comprehend!

awesome theme! i like the texture! its like every shortcuts/widgets and buttons are embossed on my screen! and the background is simple but elegant.

[jakiman]

I really wouldn't want to do this because it would flood the repos with stuff like

Carbon Red
Carbon Purple
Carbon Pink
Carbon Orange
Carbon Yellow
Carbon Green
Carbon Blue

And we wouldn't want that, right?

More the better I say. I would love for our repo to have 10000+ apps/themes instead of 1000. If the change is very little, maybe it's not worth it. But if it's noticeably different due to the color changes, then it makes perfect sense to make multiple variants.

eg. your hitech theme in black/white instead of blue would be fantastic.

[fms]

More the better I say. I would love for our repo to have 10000+ apps/themes instead of 1000.
But, I hope, not this kind of 10000+ apps/themes? :)

If the change is very little, maybe it's not worth it. But if it's noticeably different due to the color changes, then it makes perfect sense to make multiple variants.
It may be worth including a tiny standardized config panel applet that lets you tweak a few theme variables.

[navsin]

Is there a workaround for the virtual keyboard which is messed up in the PR1.2 RC? Apart from that, I love this theme.

[jakiman]

But, I hope, not this kind of 10000+ apps/themes? :)

It may be worth including a tiny standardized config panel applet that lets you tweak a few theme variables.

haha. yeah, I agree. I don't think Maemo5 supports such tweaking of only certain parts of the themes in real time unfortunately.

[joppu]

Just relax, it's fixed in the next version that I will release after fixing a bunch of other stuff.

[niqbal]

@ joppu, just trying to learn a few things on my own. what do u think of the gnome menu-icon? i think it looks fantastic on that black shade. In second screenshot, text color is much more calm and easy to work with

[kozij]

Can you please inform us which file you edited in order to change the colours? Thanks

[joppu]

Jesus Christ, a bit patiance, I'm working on it...

colors.css

[niqbal]

with all due respect to the developer of carbon theme
changelog so far:


added custom icons for menu + gnome menu icon
added icons from humanity theme for download page, apps page and clock page
changed conversations-sms click background color
changed text color
added folder icons

[enko]

How can i get the themes of u 2???

[Pressure]

Very good theme, I'm using it right now :)

[Wichall]

Love this theme Joppu, great work, please don't change the shortcut icon size, I love the smaller sized ones in themes :)

Also, for people experiencing the issue with the virtual keyboard, run these commands in xterm to get the default ones back (BEWARE, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE UPDATE WILL REPLACE THESE ON IT'S OWN WITHOUT REVERTING BACK TO THE GREEN ONES) :


cp /usr/share/themes/alpha/images/InputMethodAltButtonNormal.png /usr/share/themes/carbon/images/
cp /usr/share/themes/alpha/images/InputMethodBackspaceButtonNormal.png /usr/share/themes/carbon/images/
cp /usr/share/themes/alpha/images/InputMethodBackspaceButtonPressed.png /usr/share/themes/carbon/images/
cp /usr/share/themes/alpha/images/InputMethodButtonDisabled.png /usr/share/themes/carbon/images/
cp /usr/share/themes/alpha/images/InputMethodButtonNormal.png /usr/share/themes/carbon/images/
cp /usr/share/themes/alpha/images/InputMethodButtonPressed.png /usr/share/themes/carbon/images/
cp /usr/share/themes/alpha/images/InputMethodDarkButtonNormal.png /usr/share/themes/carbon/images/
cp /usr/share/themes/alpha/images/InputMethodShiftButtonNormal.png /usr/share/themes/carbon/images/
cp /usr/share/themes/alpha/images/InputMethodShiftButtonPressed.png /usr/share/themes/carbon/images/

[Blinde]

Can you please inform us which file you edited in order to change the colours? Thanks
Still no way to change that ugly blue colored font?

[niqbal]

Still no way to change that ugly blue colored font?

i did post the screenshots to show its (ugly blue colored font) changeable! I was unable to change the notification color though. Still waiting for developer for an update and i am guessing developer might have been waiting for PR 1.2 update.

after update to PR 1.2, only issue i found was link color and system symbols are all in green now, yikes

[PaK]

with all due respect to the developer of carbon theme
changelog so far:


added custom icons for menu + gnome menu icon
added icons from humanity theme for download page, apps page and clock page
changed conversations-sms click background color
changed text color
added folder icons


wow , what i should do for use this version? i dont like the original icons...

[godofwar424]

Hi can you please update this theme to support PR 1.2 new virtual keyboard?

It currently shows green buttons which I managed to remove by importing from another theme but I cannot find a way to import the original buttons for the official theme into 3rd party themes :(

Someone help?

[Wichall]

Hi can you please update this theme to support PR 1.2 new virtual keyboard?

It currently shows green buttons which I managed to remove by importing from another theme but I cannot find a way to import the original buttons for the official theme into 3rd party themes :(

Someone help?
See above: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=677484&postcount=66

[GrimmReaperNL]

I like the theme but like others before me the virtual keyboard is fully green. is this because you're still working on the theme? or did i do something wrong?

one thing i suggest you change (and i changed myself) is lower the wmCloseIcon(Pressed).png X-icon by 3 pixels.
it looked like it was possitioned a bit to high and by lowering 3 pixels it looked better.

another thing is. I'm using the conversations widget and the custom script widget and their backgrounds seem to have a blueish line around them. now i know this is not due to your theme but could you help me remove those?

lastly, you show this screenshot:
http://i43.tinypic.com/rc3k49.jpg
mine has a lighter grey line on both the left and the right side.

[joppu]

That's PR1.1.

I'll be releasing a fixed version after my exam week is over.

[Addison]

Hey joppu.

After your exams, would you mind dumping all of your custom icons into a file that's available for download?

I sure would like to use some of them on my N800. :)

[HellFlyer]

That's PR1.1.

I'll be releasing a fixed version after my exam week is over.

Good luck with your exams ;)

[ou_oliver]

best one, thanks.

[joppu]

Hey joppu.

After your exams, would you mind dumping all of your custom icons into a file that's available for download?

I sure would like to use some of them on my N800. :)

I don't have any custom icons, you'll need to ask that guy who's creating the Ubuntu Humanity theme.

[niqbal]

just saw carbon theme version .4 in the latest build packages, thanks joppu

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updated to the latest version. its a brilliant theme. Excellent work. Btw, love the subtle light blue, very cool

[Blinde]

Stunning minimalism! Much better now with toned colors.
Little more transparency please.

Thanks!

[fms]

Borders around menus are somewhat broken now, they differ in color from the menu background. Other problems (slider in the Video Player, vertical edges when selecting an item in the Call Log) are still there.

[niqbal]

slider in the video player is a nokia issue, try it with ovi store themes, you will get your answer

[percy]

Other problems (slider in the Video Player, vertical edges when selecting an item in the Call Log) are still there.

Yup, those vertical edges in selection lists that split the line in two parts look really broken.

Otherwise great minimalistic theme and the light blue text is much better!

Thanks!

[fms]

slider in the video player is a nokia issue, try it with ovi store themes, you will get your answer
Well, do you really think Nokia will fix it?

[TheBootroo]

great job man, my fav theme ever !

i like button and i'm glad you changed the old blue tet color !!

but i would love a mix theme : carbon controls + with Array-like close button (not home one) + humanity color icons everywhere !!!!


could you do that for me, or tell me how to do ?

Thanks a lot

[cashclientel]

This theme is a bar raiser for all the other ones so thanks very much for your effort.

[mece]

Hmm my desktop look almost like the default theme after the last update.

[nosa101]

Hmm my desktop look almost like the default theme after the last update.

Tried rebooting?

[d-iivil]

Tried rebooting?

You need to manually re-select the theme to use after upgrade. Another weird Maemo5 bug.

[mece]

*bonk self*
Thanks nosa101 and D-livil. Noticed the theme got unselected. Apparently part of it stayed on.

Now it's back to it's awesome self.

[wasserkuhl]

Fantastic theme. appreciate the work that has been done. thanks!

[markcub]

Has the name of this package/theme been changed to HydroCarbon in extras-devel?

Cheers,
Mark.

[markcub]

Has the name of this package/theme been changed to HydroCarbon in extras-devel?

Cheers,
Mark.Hmm, it appears it is slightly different. Light blue progress bars and yellow notifications.

Cheers,
Mark.

[fms]

Has the name of this package/theme been changed to HydroCarbon in extras-devel?
No. HydroCarbon is the theme I have made by slightly modifying the original Carbon theme. Here is the list of changes:

1. Shuffle/Loop icons in the Media Player have been fixed to light up in their active state.
2. All notifications are now yellow, not gray. They are supposed to be easily noticeable.
3. The list item dividers are made recessed.
4. The active list item no longer has edges between columns in multi-column lists (see address book, call log).
5. The progress bars are light blue (thanks go to Andrew Zhilin for this one). As a result, you can now read text shown on top of those progress bars.

I still have not fixed the menu borders: cannot find where they are in the template. Going to make a few more modifications as well.

[Blinde]

No. HydroCarbon is the theme I have made by slightly modifying the original Carbon theme. Here is the list of changes:

1. Shuffle/Loop icons in the Media Player have been fixed to light up in their active state.
2. All notifications are now yellow, not gray. They are supposed to be easily noticeable.
3. The list item dividers are made recessed.
4. The active list item no longer has edges between columns in multi-column lists (see address book, call log).
5. The progress bars are light blue (thanks go to Andrew Zhilin for this one). As a result, you can now read text shown on top of those progress bars.

I still have not fixed the menu borders: cannot find where they are in the template. Going to make a few more modifications as well.

Could you also add more transparency to it?

[TheBootroo]

nice job, i prefer hydro carbon against carbon because this little colors are good-looking with my hack for humanity icons...

but could you add a blue shade on left side of slider ?

and improve slider handle (round it and reduce size of 4-5 pixels ) ?

and overall a nice silder on 'slide to unlock' screen ?

and please fix menu borders too ....

and a selected item in list which have blue text could stay blue, not become white....


if all of this is donne, this may be to best theme ever for maemo !!!

thanks in advance !

[fms]

Could you also add more transparency to it?
What transparency?

[fms]

but could you add a blue shade on left side of slider ?
I have considered and decided against it for now. Don't think it will look good. May add

and improve slider handle (round it and reduce size of 4-5 pixels ) ?
Not possible, afaik. It is really expected to be rectangular, of a fixed size.

and overall a nice silder on 'slide to unlock' screen ?
I can roll it back to the default theme's slider image, although the current one is not bad either.

and please fix menu borders too ....
Only if you tell me where they are in the theme.

and a selected item in list which have blue text could stay blue, not become white....
Could you please give me a scenario for checking this one out? Why do you want it to stay blue?

[Blinde]

What transparency?
Like default themes, Digital Nature and Nseries has transparency on desktop. Like in widgets etc.

[Bingley Joe]

This theme (and the derivatives it has spawned) really is great.

A couple of observations:


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4029/4682059135_b2ea085650.jpg
The "Now Playing" button added to the Media Player since PR1.2 is a bit out of place now... not sure if anything can be done about it, but it would be nice if it blended a bit better.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/4682686852_9134a3e2fa.jpg
The black borders around icons and other desktop elements (I noticed bookmarks and some widgets have them as well) are a bit 'chunky' - for lack of a better word - in the corners, which makes them look a bit odd on light-coloured backgrounds. They do look very sharp on dark backgrounds such as the theme's default though.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4054/4682686806_c00080f965.jpg
Difficult to see in this screenshot, but there is a thin black line running across the top edge of the status area that gives the impression that it's not connected to the top of the screen -- again, this is more when used with light-coloured backgrounds.


Those are all really minor quibbles though -- overall this is really great work :)

[lbt]

@fms
just an FYI ... there's a chappy in irc "joppu" who claims that this is based on his work and that it's not licensed for modification.

I can't verify that this guy is who he says he is; or that he's correct.... but you may want to know before sinking too much effort into it.

[GrimmReaperNL]

well, if you check the very first post in this thread you'll that it is joppu who made the original theme

[fms]

there's a chappy in irc "joppu" who claims that this is based on his work and that it's not licensed for modification.
Yes, the Hydrocarbon theme is based on joppu's Carbon theme. I have never claimed its originality. Check the changelog for the attribution to the original author.

As to not being licensed to modifications, let me quote what the copyright file says in the original Carbon theme:
This package is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 license.
Here is the link to the license description:

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/

[d-iivil]

Yes, the Hydrocarbon theme is based on joppu's Carbon theme. I have never claimed its originality. Check the changelog for the attribution to the original author.

As to not being licensed to modifications, let me quote what the copyright file says in the original Carbon theme:

Here is the link to the license description:

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/

Jeah, Joppu is using Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 license but maybe he does not understand what that means? Why he won't comment on this thread?

[lbt]

The chat is here. I tried to explain:
http://mg.pov.lt/maemo-irclog/%23maemo.2010-06-09.log.html#t2010-06-09T00:58:18

@GrimmReaperNL - heh, I didn't notice it was a 3-pager. Plus it's easy, if unusual, to fake other peoples nicks on irc. Hence some caution in saying it was him for sure.

@D-livil ... I asked him to.

[fms]

Jeah, Joppu is using Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 license but maybe he does not understand what that means? Why he won't comment on this thread?
I have no idea. The license terms are clear enough though. And I am absolutely ok if he decides to bring my modifications back into Carbon: I am mainly making them to make the theme suitable for everyday use, not because I want to steal his fame :)

[joppu]

Yeah, I was kind of pissed of yesterday since you went on modifying my work without asking a permission or even acknowledging me of it (I would have even provided the SVG template and all if you would have asked). So yeah, sorry for being rude and all, I just had no idea packages were being distributed under such a permissive license by default. As I already stated, I just don't like doing stuff like this behind my back.

About the HydroCarbon, there are several factors I don't like. Carbon is all about gray (heh heh), so bright yellow and bright blue just don't cut it.

I know what the license means, it's just some Nokia leftovers, as you can see from the line
Copyright (c) 2008, 2009 Nokia Corporation, All rights reserved.

In short, I don't like people messing with my artistic integrity, so please at least notify me before forking my stuff.

[d-iivil]

...went on modifying my work without asking a permission

You can modify what every you want for your own needs (yes, even commercial products, take a car for example). Distribution is a whole different story, but you used a licence that allows re-distribution also.


I just had no idea packages were being distributed under such a permissive license by default

You haven't ever took a look at the copyright file in your themes?


I know what the license means, it's just some Nokia leftovers, as you can see from the line

Those are from gtkr -files right? They have Nokia copyright since they are generated by autobuilder using hildon-theme-tools and that copyright isn't a mistake.

[joppu]

Those are from gtkr -files right? They have Nokia copyright since they are generated by autobuilder using hildon-theme-tools and that copyright isn't a mistake.

It's from the copyright -file.

[Wichall]

No harm in a bit of common courtesy, manners and patience for joppu to finish his exams...

I love this theme by the way, thank you joppu, and although I'm probably on my own, I actually like the edges in multi column lists..

[msa]

i really want to like this theme because it kinda looks like its cellshaded, but there is just too much dark colors on top of dark colors. grey grey grey. it looks repetitive somehow... for example the loading bar, which is dark grey with a grey bar with black text on it.
i think it needs some flashy highlights.

[joppu]

No harm in a bit of common courtesy, manners and patience for joppu to finish his exams...

I love this theme by the way, thank you joppu, and although I'm probably on my own, I actually like the edges in multi column lists..

The exams are luckily over now, and I removed the multicolumn stuff due to popular opinion.

i really want to like this theme because it kinda looks like its cellshaded, but there is just too much dark colors on top of dark colors. grey grey grey. it looks repetitive somehow... for example the loading bar, which is dark grey with a grey bar with black text on it.
i think it needs some flashy highlights.

There are some blue highlights in several places, but yes, it's mostly gray, gray and gray. And that's the point - I like it that way.

[fms]

Yeah, I was kind of pissed of yesterday since you went on modifying my work without asking a permission or even acknowledging me of it (I would have even provided the SVG template and all if you would have asked). So yeah, sorry for being rude and all, I just had no idea packages were being distributed under such a permissive license by default. As I already stated, I just don't like doing stuff like this behind my back.
Sorry for accidentally pissing you off: I only wanted to adopt the theme for easier usage, the uploaded the result back to Extras-Devel for the others to make use of. Tonight, I am going to change the control file so that it clearly states that it is a different theme based on your work. If you can pass on that SVG template, it would be much appreciated of course.

In short, I don't like people messing with my artistic integrity, so please at least notify me before forking my stuff.
You should clearly state that in the copyright file. In fact, you are not forced to stick to one of the CC licenses, unless you are using some Nokia resources that have got a viral license. Here is, for example, the stuff that I have for the projects where I release the source code:


* You can use these resources for any non-profit purposes, as long as you make a proper reference to me.
* You cannot use any of these resources to gain profit. This includes using them in commercial projects, putting them onto companion CDs, etc. If you want to use my work in a commercial project, please, contact me to negotiate the terms.
* You cannot distribute these resources yourself, through your own WWW or FTP sites, even if they are non-profit. It is ok to have them as part of your non-profit software though.
* If you use my code for your own project, please, let me know about it.


You can reuse any of the above statements in your license, if you wish so.

[Bingley Joe]

LOL... the latest Carbon update was... unexpected :p

[joppu]

LOL... the latest Carbon update was... unexpected :p

Yeah, I just rolled out another update, sorry for that :P

[gabby131]

Yeah, I just rolled out another update, sorry for that :P

awesome! thanks!

BTW: can i make the background image of Carbon Theme a wallpaper on my desktop PC? and............how??? please excuse if i am being irritating :D

thanks,

[Bingley Joe]

Yeah, I just rolled out another update, sorry for that :P

I thought it was pretty awesome, actually. Sometimes ya gotta do what ya gotta do ;)

[niqbal]

dude seriously how can i revert back to ver 0.4, latest version is awful. maybe post this as a separate theme

[Erazor]

:D:D i was realy shocked when the update comes :D:D
because there was an graphical horror :D but the update came realy fast.

i'm glad to have the carbon theme on my n900.
awesomeness within ;)

great work

best regards and thanks for the great skin


Greetz
Erazor

[joppu]

dude seriously how can i revert back to ver 0.4, latest version is awful. maybe post this as a separate theme

What's the matter?

[niqbal]

What's the matter?

nothings wrong, just a preference. i feel its not aesthetic. Contact shortcuts now are all greenish-hazed. The menu icon is colorful but looks a separate entity, previously it beautifully blended in the top bar. Same goes for arrows; drop down and back arrow. box lines around icons again make them feel separate entities. Do see photos app toolbar (del, tags buttons etc), its full of lines, maybe its just me but looks terrible.

I basically loved how everything flowed and it doesnt in ver 0.5.

desktop icons background and pressed background give it a 3d look which i havent seen in any other theme but introducing 2d lines around it are taking that effect away

i do notice some nice improvements too. Clicking on nokia messaging: gmail is very pleasant now. The backdrop effect is much appreciated. Not sure if it has anything u have done but very glass like transparency when drop down menu appears, very cool.

[joppu]

nothings wrong, just a preference. i feel its not aesthetic. Contact shortcuts now are all greenish-hazed. The menu icon is colorful but looks a separate entity, previously it beautifully blended in the top bar. Same goes for arrows; drop down and back arrow. box lines around icons again make them feel separate entities.

I basically loved how everything flowed and it doesnt in ver 0.5.

desktop icons background and pressed background give it a 3d look which i havent seen in any other theme but introducing 2d lines around it are taking that effect away

i do notice some nice improvements too. Clicking on nokia messaging: gmail is very pleasant now. The backdrop effect is much appreciated. Not sure if it has anything u have done but very glass like transparency when top drop down menu appears, very cool.

Yeah, I managed to slip in a version with failed template export.
Check for updates to fix it.

[niqbal]

Yeah, I managed to slip in a version with failed template export.
Check for updates to fix it.

just got my carbon awesomeness back, thx bro

[Bingley Joe]

0.6 is great :)


Back to some observations:


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4059/4685640242_4d93bd7bfb_b.jpg

I've noticed that in some list views such as in the screenshot above, the background area of the list item is different than the background area of the dialogue -- almost as though it has a texture applied (the File Manager is another place where it's easily noticed).

Just wondering if that's on purpose?

[Bingley Joe]

Just noticed one more thing:


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1272/4685170235_e4cc94a142_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4069/4685170193_b3344c051b_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4036/4685803956_91187051bf_b.jpg

I have no idea what the particular screen element these apps are drawing in red is called, but they're all basically presenting sortable lists of some kind.. (or a type of database view?)..

It's definitely a theme-able element though, as Mer draws it in black.

[dana.s]

After updating today i was like :eek:
but now there is a smile on my face whenever i work on my N900, i love this strange mix of colors everywhere :D
piece of art.

[Erazor]

is there a missing button ?


http://s2.imgimg.de/thumbs/Screenshot20100609212825f32b2f51png.png (http://www.imgimg.de/bild_Screenshot20100609212825f32b2f51png.png.html)


//EDIT:

here are a little Bug with the Buttons
But thats not a prob for me :)

http://s2.imgimg.de/thumbs/Screenshot2010061001021481f2de22png.png (http://www.imgimg.de/bild_Screenshot2010061001021481f2de22png.png.html)

[GrimmReaperNL]

I love your theme joppu. it's awesome.

one thing though. you said it's all about grey(gray w/e). but when i click on something in the calander it goes green. was this intended?
personaly i would prefer it in a greytone.

[HellFlyer]

I love your theme joppu. it's awesome.

one thing though. you said it's all about grey(gray w/e). but when i click on something in the calander it goes green. was this intended?
personaly i would prefer it in a greytone.

no its all grey , check you version, 0.6 is the latest (extras-devel) and reboot after applying

[GrimmReaperNL]

no its all grey , check you version, 0.6 is the latest (extras-devel) and reboot after applying

i have 0.6 and have already rebooted (well not reboot but turned off and on but w/e) and still. when i have the calender open and i click on an item it highlights in green.

i've also check to see that carbon was indeed the active theme and it is.

[HellFlyer]

lol i just checked its really green :D never used month view ...anyways try HydroCarbon, its a slightly modified version by some dude , i think it has some blueish things there

[GrimmReaperNL]

hydrocarbon was modified/released without permission of the original 'carbon' creator. i like the grey theme and was just wondering if the green was intended.

if not, joppu could have taken my post as a bugreport.

[agentsmith]

Joppu can you tell me how to increase the font size for this theme? My eye sight is not so good and when I copy the file with the modifications to gtk-2.0 I lose all the features of Carbon?

[gabby131]

yo joppu!

i dont have a vast knowledge in linux and qt, and i know this is too much or irritating and i truly apologize, but is it possible to change the notification banner color? like when you have a low battery, a banner with a "battery low" text would appear. maybe the original yellow color would be okay.

i understand if this might cant be done. just a sugestion...thanks :D

[percy]

maybe the original yellow color would be okay.


If you want carbon with yellow notifications try the hydro carbon theme which is derived from carbon:

http://maemo.org/packages/package_instance/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_armel/hydrocarbon-theme/0.5/

[Wichall]

I've just switched over to array after a while on carbon, joppu your themes are all brilliant, love the pipboy one but I had some graphical bugs so I stuck with array

[meLi]

How to change color for the pressed icon ? Like when u press icon it will turn red etc.

[joppu]

How to change color for the pressed icon ? Like when u press icon it will turn red etc.

What icon?

[meLi]

What icon?

Desktop icon or any other selection. Example when i press any desktop icon it will dimmed grey color.

Like this image when u highlight it come blue color.
http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=11433&stc=1&d=1277423549

TQ

[Lantti]

Just wanted to say thanks for making / developing this theme.

Only bugs that I have seen are already reported in this thread:
- red screen element sometimes visible (e.g. visible at browser - Downloads menu)
- Media player missing some buttons

Also my personal preference would be to use lighter blue (or some other color) when selecting text. (e.g. in browser if address is selected / highlighted)

[V65N900]

with all due respect to the developer of carbon theme
changelog so far:


added custom icons for menu + gnome menu icon
added icons from humanity theme for download page, apps page and clock page
changed conversations-sms click background color
changed text color
added folder icons


Niqbal thank you for putting this up. I've been actually wondering the same thing: "How to get humanity icons on carbon theme" Can you please direct me to the download please? I'm a bit of a newbie.....been reading these forums for hours....the N900 fever i tell you lol

[jbw89]

is there a way to change the green text in conversation? (the name of the other person)
thanks

[percy]

is there a way to change the green text in conversation? (the name of the other person)

As far as I remember you have to change the "AccentColor1" in

/opt/usr/share/themes/carbon/css/color.css

and

/opt/usr/share/themes/carbon/gtk-2.0/gtkrc.

[jbw89]

whoo it work, was searching a little bit this site helpt al little bit; http://www.colorcombos.com/combotester.html

only changed /opt/usr/share/themes/carbon/css/color.css

Thanks

[ahmin92]

how to install this theme to my n900???

[d-iivil]

I really really like this theme and been using it for some time now. But I did find some elements just not-quite-my-style, so I did some modifications:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6164962/carbonsteel/Screenshot-20101128-150955.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6164962/carbonsteel/Screenshot-20101128-151046.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6164962/carbonsteel/Screenshot-20101128-151007.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6164962/carbonsteel/Screenshot-20101128-151219.png
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6164962/carbonsteel/Screenshot-20101128-151459.png

In case someone else wants it, you can find it from extras-testing with name "Carbon Steel". It comes with Ubuntu -font (shown at screenshots) and also depends on faenza-icons and Theme Customizer, so they are also automaticly installed.

[J4ZZ]

Awesome mate, just my style, too ;)

Thx

[percy]

I see that your Quicklaunch is using the icons from the Faenza-theme. I tried the same with Awoken-theme but Quicklaunch is still using the hicolor icons. Even after a restart.

And I found that Filebox doesn't offer Awoken oder Faenza as selectable icon-themes.

Any hints on this?

[d-iivil]

I see that your Quicklaunch is using the icons from the Faenza-theme. I tried the same with Awoken-theme but Quicklaunch is still using the hicolor icons. Even after a restart.

And I found that Filebox doesn't offer Awoken oder Faenza as selectable icon-themes.

Any hints on this?

For QuickLaunch: install latest devel-version, then go to phone settings and re-set your applications to quicklaunch to get new icons.

For FileBox: ask the developer (CepiPerez) if he's gonna add Faenza icons to the program. FileBox is using it's own icons and not following theme's icon theme.

[Bingley Joe]

Does anyone know the name/location of the theme element that causes the red areas to show up in some cases?

See the post I made earlier (#124) for screenshots of what I'm referring to. (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=707498&postcount=124)

I'd love to just get in there and change the colour myself if I'm the only one who doesn't like that..

[d-iivil]

Does anyone know the name/location of the theme element that causes the red areas to show up in some cases?

See the post I made earlier (#124) for screenshots of what I'm referring to. (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=707498&postcount=124)

I'd love to just get in there and change the colour myself if I'm the only one who doesn't like that..

Seems to be "attention color" in gtkrc, css and colors.config file.

I'll fix that in my next Carbon Steel release...

[James_Littler]

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6164962/carbonsteel/Screenshot-20101128-150955.png

How did you get the extra visible row in the status menu?

Sorry for the Off Topic BTW.

EDIT: Look here for instructions http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=884217

[javiermon]

I really really like this theme and been using it for some time now. But I did find some elements just not-quite-my-style, so I did some modifications

In case someone else wants it, you can find it from extras-testing with name "Carbon Steel". It comes with Ubuntu -font (shown at screenshots) and also depends on faenza-icons and Theme Customizer, so they are also automaticly installed.

Looks great, but I would rather use a version without the dependencies on icons & theme customizer.

[gabby131]

i wanna cry. both the Carbon and Carbon theme is awesome!

good thing there is theme customizer! i mixed both themes in one!!!

[cjp]

This theme is still in Extras-Devel, where as two themes based on this theme are already in Extras.

Let's get this great theme finally out of Extras-Devel!