Nokia should support meego os comercially for the n900

[ajflex]

Update of firmware show future of any device by far maemo os only as 290 crappy apps with the exception, of bounce ,openarena angry bird and about two more.

Update to something else show more for future by far for device
The n900 is too powerful to continue with maemo 5.
It need a new turn around to meego os with maemo harmatton are the phone will die.
Take look at iphone over 10000 apps android 5000 apps
Any phone that take a while to bring some good to its consumer they will not support, so nokia think fast

I am a person who have choose nokia phones for reason
durablilty strong uses of the phone.
Nokia n900 will die if it continue with maemo os.
Meego Os or Maemo 6 os with new things

if this phone was only for geeks i guess nokia is joking
this phone have all potencial to become the best thing nokia every built since the n95 and e90.
So please give the n900 choice the geek continue their thing with maemo 5
And give us N user Meego Os harmatton

[nosa101]

290 crappy apps? Wow..just wow.

[Texrat]

I love rank hyperbole. It's almost as useful as sarcasm.

[gerbick]

The phone won't magically die when MeeGo comes out. It'll keep working just fine. It'll be the same "shiny shiny" as the day you bought it; just have to have hope that they will complete any major grievances.

Apps don't make the Maemo platform. The OS does. And to have something that is as open as Maemo where you can program, compile on the phone itself... that's a good thing for developers.

The apps you listed as good apps - I agree, Angry Birds is crazily addictive - are indicative that you were looking for a more consumer based phone. Which... isn't the N900 by a stretch.

Who knows what will happen in the future, but I have to reiterate that your phone will not magically die the moment MeeGo comes out. If Nokia had implemented something like that... then be angry.

I get your grievance and just wanted to meet your post with a kinder, gentler post in hopes that you discuss exactly what you were looking for - I'm guessing above and now that it was a consumer phone - and that you are hoping for something to come out to further justify the purchase of the N900.

Take care.

[Frappacino]

>> if this phone was only for geeks i guess nokia is joking

Yes they are "Joking".

This phone really IS for geeks and IT power users only.

For a normal user who just wants things to "just work", this is not the phone for them.

If you bought this phone expecting things to "just work", then sell your n900 and get something else now.

This is 1 aspect of the phone that will NEVER change. Both fanboys and trolls agree on this.

[Nipperoid]

We should recode angry birds and replace the birds with the angry commenters and the pigs with nokia execs, call it "angry nerds" :D

[leetut]

i dont want meego!

[crisismt]

I can't understand this thing. THIS PHONE WAS MADE FOR GEEKS. Seriously if it were, nokia would have advertised on billboards and the n900 trailer would be quite different. Before I bought this phone I made my research and listened to alot of reviews and I thought oh what a great phone.

I agree with ajflex. yes the 290 apps are crappy indeed. I feel like I'm not getting what i paid for.

[johnel]

290 crappy apps.

Well f*** me that's gratitude for ya!

Personally I feel I am in-debted to the people who have written useful applications (all of them?) for the n900.

Due to the developers spending their free time and risking their sanity to write software the n900 feels like a proper little linux computer.

These guys have my undying grattitude!

As someone once said to me:
"Programming is an art form that fights back"

[nosa101]

I agree with ajflex. yes the 290 apps are crappy indeed. I feel like I'm not getting what i paid for.

Sarcasm or not?

[zimon]

They could sell N900 stll for a year if Meego would be promised and later would be preinstalled.
Oh well, maybe it is not affordable economically.

[johnel]

I love rank hyperbole. It's almost as useful as sarcasm.

Hyperboyle is funnier.

[FranzDages]

I agree with ajflex. yes the 290 apps are crappy indeed. I feel like I'm not getting what i paid for.

You paid for the phone, the OS, not any apps. Unlike any other platform, you don't have to pay for (most) apps on Maemo.

[Laughing Man]

They could sell N900 stll for a year if Meego would be promised and later would be preinstalled.
Oh well, maybe it is not affordable economically.

You've figured it out, with your last sentence. It's not affordable econimcally. Harmattan/Meego is going be multi-touch capacitative. The N900 is single (or rudimentary multi) with resistive. They could just slap Meego on the N900 without carrying about actual functionality but then they have even more complaints.

While I personally think it's possible, especially if you use a keyboard to take over multi-touch functions, Nokia doesn't see the (financial) return being worth the cost to officially commercially support Meego.

But instead of abandoning N900 users completly, they've said they'll provide support in getting a community version of Meego.

[xomm]

I don't mean to be provocative, but if Bounce, Open Arena, and Angry Birds are the most "un-crappy" applications for you...

I'll just leave it at that.

(And why do people keep posting stuff like this? There are only a handful of Nokia employees who are regulars here, afaik.)

[T-unit]

now if we get 7000+ posts on this thread and then send a link to nokia's CEO. Now that of course would assume that we dont have a ton of junk posts but pleges that we wont develop or purchase a device if Nokia isn't considerate of there community.

My Pledge to never develop for nokia or purchase another nokia device unless they provide meego commercially for the Nokia N900.

Techunit

[Corso85]

Anyone would like to see first what this Meego dude can do before we start begging for it :rolleyes:.

Sure, from the netbook version. the interface is all fancy. But we are still waiting for the mobile version to see if the fanciness is worth it on there.

From what we've seen. backward compatibleness wasn't so great on Maemo to begin with. so it's a one year product from Nokia. The rest of the work comes from the Peoples of the Maemo! Go Peoples!

[Astute]

To my knowledge what was paid for in buying the N900 was the device itself & capabilities, the OS it came with and the included accessories.

As for crappy apps that dont actually come with the device.....Oh dear

That is simply insulting to the many many opensource developers here that do their thing in their freetime and give us the end results for free. Saying that I suspect many wont be insulted by the clowns that kickstart and lemmings that fuel such s#yt posts.

On a serious note why dont some learn & develop some of their own not so crappy free apps ?? Intelligence & skill levels up to the mark or not ?? Now I wonder, hmmmmm :rolleyes:

These type of threads should be deleted/closed asap.


Nuff said

[lucas777]

but there not so close thread

[ZShakespeare]

yeah, if you want OS upgrades and good commercial apps you should go out and buy an Apple or Android phone! Nokia devices are just as competitive without all that unnecessary added value.

[Frappacino]

>> yeah, if you want OS upgrades and good commercial apps you should go out and buy an Apple or Android phone!

100 % agree

>> Nokia devices are just as competitive without all that unnecessary added value.

.... yes and everyone knows Nokia is so competitive nowadays their phones are gaining marketshare from Android/Apple.

[felbutss]

http://www.cnet.com.au/intel-s-push-for-simpler-portable-devices-339303693.htm


lets hope all goes well. by the time meego comes out with a device my N900 will be sold anyway. lets hope intel and nokia do well and QT is pushed to other phone makers. apple will be on their own


Intel also detailed its AppUp store, which is a cross-platform attempt to compete with the likes of Google's Android Marketplace and Apple's iTunes. The first company to support it is Asus, with links to the store on its latest crop of netbooks.

MeeGo offers two different modes, an iPhone-like "Simple" mode and the multimedia-intensive "Panel" mode, which aggregates web pages, social media feeds and media playback.

[lifenexus]

>> yeah, if you want OS upgrades and good commercial apps you should go out and buy an Apple or Android phone!

100 % agree

>> Nokia devices are just as competitive without all that unnecessary added value.

.... yes and everyone knows Nokia is so competitive nowadays their phones are gaining marketshare from Android/Apple.

http://stats.getjar.com/statistics/world/manufacturer/Nokia

[slaapliedje]

I can excuse the horrible grasp of the English language that the OP used, since this is an international forum...

Though in my experience, most of the people who post to forums say "forgive me for my poor English, it's not my native language" end up having better English than the native speakers....

So this really sounds like someone who has failed at life itself, and is now with the understanding that anything that isn't a flashy game that makes his eyes sparkle, must be crappy.

Seriously, 290 crappy apps? I purchased Angry Birds simply to support the progammers of commercial software. The game is addicting, but frustratingly annoying at times too!

But all the emulators, xournal, evince, Opera, Chrome... there are some seriously awesome apps for the N900.

The only one off the top of my head that is a "crappy" app, would be the one that checks how far you can throw your N900!

Out of all those iPhone and Android Apps, there aren't even 50 that are actually useful.

In conclusion, STFU. :D Though it'd be nice for them to officially support MeeGo for the N900, I can understand why they don't (though they do support it, just not saying "Hey, here's our first MeeGo device that also used to be our First / Last Maemo 5 device!")

slaapliedje

[rcarlos]

Ok..I seriously doubt if Nokia wld do that....but what if Nokia provides an upgrade but prices it higher than the depreciated value of the N900 on that day.
a)Would we buy it?
b)Would nokia release updates/fixes for that later?
c)Would we be ready to pay for that as well?

In my view if 'yes' is the answer for all than nokia should be happy to release it.

Might be wrong, but in my opinion it is in Nokia's best interest that N900 shd carry meego, as it would help them in attaining 'critical mass' faster and bring in the developers early than wait for a full fledged device

[crown77]

its really funny to read this thread thx but like much ppl here saying the open source developer did all the apps and nokia did nothing to give us some proper working good apps.

They dont give us a good navigation programm .. i mean they have it for any newer symbian device but not for us .. common guys wake up anybody who is defending nokia must be blind in my eyes.

Ask yourselfe what did Nokia do for this Maemo Project ..they said its dead official but give you the great Option to do Meego for the N900 how nice from them hmm.

But they dont want Meego Official becouse why should they do any support or work for there abandoned N900 Development Experimental Device.

And to say just sell your N900 and buy a Iphone if you arent happy is totally stupid i mean did anybody checked the price for a used N900 this days but okay if anybody will give me 450Euro (new price was 600) i sell it ..its just a halve year old *sadly ironic*

[slender]

crown77,
"Defending Nokia"
I would like to raise one point here. IMO people like to put other people in groups and that basically distorts the conversation. Criticizing or having different opinion than person who is not happy with their N900 doesn't meant that this person is defending Nokia. They are defending themselves but they might to disagree what Nokia is actually doing. Please people bear this in mind when having conversation. Also when someone tries to explain what Nokia is doing, quite often people attack these people. Why?

So who is actually defending Nokia?

[ajflex]

(leetut, lucas777, Astute) its very irony has my friend crown77.
Who ask you (****) hater and geeks (leetut, lucas777, Attute) for your opinion.

I love my n900 i buy it for what the advertisement says good multimedia and gaming and internet platform. All i am saying is nokia the n900 is very powerful to be so slow to bring out cool software and game for it.

All the hater there are b-boys. p@yhole


If nokia wants harmatton-meego to work they can. software can be manipulated to adapt to work so indeed to any hardware component they joking.

the n900 is a very good buith phone and packs power hardware, i want to see more apps and game 600euro is alot of money to throw any product.

nokia pull up your shoe

i have been support from 1999.
nokia 3310
nokia ngage
nokia 7610
nokia 6670
nokia 6681
nokia 3230
nokia 3250
nokia n80
nokia n73
nokia n76
nokia e61
nokia n95
nokia n96
nokia n800 internet tablet
nokia e71
nokia e90 still have
nokia 6220 classic still have
nokia n900 still have
n900 need more apps and game to excel
nokia please give us meego let we the normal user can enjoy the n900.
And let the geeks stay with maemo











and looking forward to get nokia n8

[!!Nokia N900!!]

yea, we need more applications on maemo Select & Ovi sites + Meego, soooooooooooooooooooon

[BLIZZARD]

290 crappy apps??? That is very mean (i have found many usefull apps there that changed my n900 experience, apple has 200000 apps so you must spend a month checking them and find 5 usefull ones), by now some developpers, no..all the developers will want to..... kill you.....(just kidding). You should support the developers we have and respect them, not discourage them. Sigh....

[Xanxavier]

Large font epeen?

Seriousley, the apps that are on the n900 are numerous and have many different functions.

Just cus we dont have apps that make fart sounds or of the ilk of the iphone doesnt mean its rubbish.

My main gripe is the lack of free sat nav, when compaired to lesser phones on the market. AND considering its a current model phone as well.

Meego should be made available imho, as the underlying hardware will support it. But I reckon the pressure is probably coming from the operators who want to OEM the image and have already spent enough time/money/idiocracy making the n900 with specific images for their brand. By the time Meego comes out fully for commercial phones, not laptops, the N900 will probably be 12-18 months through its release cycle and operators will not want to re-invent the wheel.

[gerbick]

The more I think about it... I hope Nokia doesn't support MeeGo on the N900... and I'll tell you why.

It creates that separation of step 4 of 5, it gives the community something to support, and gives them a year or so before they will have consumer level IDE (think: Visual Studio, Apple X-Code, Komodo ActiveState, something) method to produce apps and get their app store established to support community and commercial offerings.

It'll take a solid year for all of that to come together, imho.

So no... don't bring MeeGo to the N900. Fine tune Qt, support this community and it will help build your future Nokia.

And learn how to ****ing communicate with the community too.

[kojacker]

Just cus we dont have apps that make fart sounds
Pardon me
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=54380
;)

[cfh11]

(leetut, lucas777, Astute) its very irony has my friend crown77.


Reported.

I won't quote the whole post and subject everyone to that nonsense for a 2nd time but there is a right way and a wrong way to use this forum and that, sir, was the wrong way.

[xomm]

(leetut, lucas777, Astute) its very irony has my friend crown77.
Who ask you hater and geeks (leetut, lucas777, Attute) for your opinion.
nokia please give us meego let we the normal user can enjoy the n900.
And let the geeks stay with maemo


Just a note, without these so-called geeks... MeeGo wouldn't even exist. (Or anything that requires cognitive abilities beyond that of a troll.)

[Xanxavier]

Pardon me
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=54380
;)

LOL, Sorry my bad :D

But that is kinda funneh