MeeGo v1.1 Developer Preview out now

[vkv.raju]

Details here: http://meego.com/community/blogs/valhalla/2010/meego-handset-project-day-1-here

Screenshots here: http://meego.com/devices/handset/handset-screenshots

EDIT: Changed the thread title.
Final MeeGo v1.1 release is not expected until October 2010.

Btw, you can flash this onto your N900. Instructions in the links below (Please read the instructions and warnings very carefully!).
http://meego.com/downloads/releases/1.0.80.8/meego-handset-day1-developer-preview
http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php

If I were you, I wouldn't do anything with this until I know what I am doing. Wait for better instructions in our t.m.o/MeeGo wiki.

[fatalsaint]

Nothing to say but:

WOOT!

[w00t]

Thread title is not quite correct. This isn't 1.1, this is the initial release of the handset UX.

1.1 is set to come later this year. See: wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.1

[vietn900]

holy crap awesome!

[Dave999]

Check it out

http://meego.com/downloads/releases/handset

[apache]

http://maemoarena.com/2010/06/meego-v1-1-handset-developer-preview-is-out/

Looks like N900 is not supported in this release :(

[Lullen]

It looks nice just that the icons in the top (look at the phone screenshot) looks really boring, was hoping it to be more like the netbook icons. But really this is not whats interesting... What I want to see is the maemo stuff still being left in meego, like the im integration etc etc! When will the n900 release come? To bad I have not this phone anymore :(

[scifi.guy]

I couldn't find an instructions for N900. But I guess the process is similar to installing (on SD card) on Aava phone. Can anyone confirm? Or post if you have the correct link for N900?

http://meego.com/devices/handset/installing-aava-device


Btw - Is it possible to install this Meego 1.0 image on qemu or scratchbox?

[kamishly]

Can we download it to N900??

Thanks!

Check it out

http://meego.com/downloads/releases/handset

[ToJa92]

http://maemoarena.com/2010/06/meego-v1-1-handset-developer-preview-is-out/

Looks like N900 is not supported in this release :(

According to the article it's supposed to be soon, but if you check here you can build it yourself http://meego.com/downloads/releases/1.0.80.8/meego-handset-day1-developer-preview

[vkv.raju]

Thread title is not quite correct. This isn't 1.1, this is the initial release of the handset UX.

1.1 is set to come later this year. See: wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering/Plans/1.1

Agreed, but I am not able to change the subject now. Hope some moderator can?

[Dave999]

Can we download it to N900??

Thanks!

I don't think so. :(

[vkv.raju]

I don't think so. :(

Yes, you can. But your N900 might not be fully functional. Do it at your risk.
Remember: This is just a developer preview. Expect random reboots and crashes!
Final release is not expected until October 2010.

Anyways, links to download the image for N900 (Please read the instructions and warnings very carefully!).
http://meego.com/downloads/releases/1.0.80.8/meego-handset-day1-developer-preview
http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php

[gazza_d]

Looking forward in hope that this will be backported as afar back as the N810. There already is a core image with only xterm.

I just hope that either it's lightweight enough to run OK, or any flashy effects can be turned off for speed.

[Dave999]

hmm...doubt it will work with n900

Damn...where is my micro card

[Parody]

Looks very iPhoney.. even the apps list scrolls from side to side (there's a video on youtube)
Of course it will distance itself UI wise from the iPhone and android as the development continues, but still.

[juandp77]

there is a video online: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW5wpg5epMs

[Tiboric]

hmm...doubt it will work with n900

Damn...where is my micro card

Download Images

* Download the Aava Mobile Intel Moorestown platform image (MD5 Sum)
* Follow the instructions on installing the image.
* For Developers who wish to build an N900 image Download the N900 kickstart file.

[Odd_gunnic]

Don't whether it's the pre-alpha status, but didn't the Bananas and Pears document mention a 4x4 grid?

[fatalsaint]

Yes, you can. But your N900 might not be fully functional. Do it at your risk.
Remember: This is just a developer preview. Expect random reboots and crashes!
Final release is not expected until October 2010.

Anyways, links to download the image for N900 (Please read the instructions and warnings very carefully!).
http://meego.com/downloads/releases/1.0.80.8/meego-handset-day1-developer-preview
http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php

The only image I see at the codedrop is 201003311635 which implies to me March 31st not June 30th.. You sure it's there?

NVM.. I see.. the kickstart file.

[tissot]

Don't whether it's the pre-alpha status, but didn't the Bananas and Pears document mention a 4x4 grid?

You are right.
Applications are presented in a 4 x 4 grid
http://b-man.xceleo.org/doc/MeeGo_Handset_UX.htm

Imo they should definitely change that to 4x4.

[Optln]

Instructions for image creation is here:
http://wiki.meego.com/Image_Creation

It will probably create just the open source components(no BME, GPU, WiFi etc.) only though. We need to wait N900 adaptation team to finish their work.

[cjp]

Well! I was waiting for this the whole day today.

I hope you guys post pictures/video of this thing running on N900 asap :)

[apache]

WOw see the demo video its freakin awesome http://maemoarena.com/2010/06/videomeego-v1-1-handset-demoed-in-aava-mobile/

[Viipottaja]

Hmmm.. must say I am not fully feeling it yet. Think Maemo5 looks way better. But hopefully Nokia will do some modifications to the look before the release in a handset.

[Odd_gunnic]

You are right.

http://b-man.xceleo.org/doc/MeeGo_Handset_UX.htm

Imo they should definitely change that to 4x4.

I agree. I dont get the design logic of managing to dock 5 icons horizontally, and not the same or at least 4 on the 'desktop'

[juandp77]

Hmmm.. must say I am not fully feeling it yet. Think Maemo5 looks way better. But hopefully Nokia will do some modifications to the look before the release in a handset.

I agree with you but we have to wait

[JayBEE]

WOw see the demo video its freakin awesome http://maemoarena.com/2010/06/videomeego-v1-1-handset-demoed-in-aava-mobile/

or more directly here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW5wpg5epMs

[benny1967]

Hmmm.. must say I am not fully feeling it yet. Think Maemo5 looks way better. But hopefully Nokia will do some modifications to the look before the release in a handset.

confused too. they keep stressing the point that nokias next release (harmattan) is not built upon this "real" meego, but is a maemo/meego hybrid. they also say that nokia will not use the reference UI so that they can be different from the competition.

i don't think we're looking at the n9 user interface.

[Viipottaja]

I would imagine the grid is easily vendor (or even user) configurable.

Benny, frankly, at this point I would say: let's hope so! :) Btw, was the bananas & pears (or whatever the other fruit was) describing this "generic" Meego or Nokia's version?

[vkv.raju]

I would imagine the grid is easily vendor (or even user) configurable.

Benny, frankly, at this point I would say: let's hope so! :) Btw, was the bananas & pears (or whatever the other fruit was) describing this "generic" Meego or Nokia's version?

Not sure but it would have been probably MeeGo's version else why would they keep it on MeeGo wiki in the first place?

[ironm8]

i must say that the oriantation looks fantastic in that video.
smooth transitions(some1 said vsync?) and it looks pretty functional for an "early alpha".
there is still no n900 image, i guess downloading the current kickstart wouldnt get you access to the closed components.

[Dave999]

confused too. they keep stressing the point that nokias next release (harmattan) is not built upon this "real" meego, but is a maemo/meego hybrid. they also say that nokia will not use the reference UI so that they can be different from the competition.

i don't think we're looking at the n9 user interface.

Agree. at least I hope so.

[michou]

I remember reading an interview with Ari Jaaksi a few months ago where he stated that Meego will have very different UI's for different manufacturers (like with Symbian). He also stated that Nokia will integrate all of its Ovi Services into the OS.

I'm guessing that this Meego release is using the basic UI. Most probably any new Nokia Meego device will look very different. Only negative is that probably the N900 will never get to experience the any UI changes by Nokia.

[Odd_gunnic]

If Nokia can just shrink the Tablet UI and add phone calling feature will be fine

[wazd]

Looks controversial for me. It's boring and interesting same time :)

[w00t]

From meego-dev mailing list, in reply to my question:

Hi!

I know… we are having small problem here with arranging download for the N900 bits. Sorry for this. Will be fixed in few hours.

Valtteri

[Dave999]

hey wazd. can you change the thread title of this thread. It's not 1.1

[wazd]

hey wazd. can you change the thread title of this thread. It's not 1.1

No, I'm only demigod of the design and themes sections :D

[Dave999]

No, I'm only demigod of the design and themes sections :D

who is running the show:confused:

[cfh11]

Doesn't the OP have the ability to change the thread title himself?

[vkv.raju]

Doesn't the OP have the ability to change the thread title himself?

Sadly NO :(
I have requested the moderators to do the needful though.

[cfh11]

Hmmm... I am pretty sure that functionality is somewhere. I started a thread requesting it and sjgadsby told me it was already active....

EDIT: figured it out. Just edit your first post and change the title.

[vkv.raju]

Hmmm... I am pretty sure that functionality is somewhere. I started a thread requesting it and sjgadsby told me it was already active....

EDIT: figured it out. Just edit your first post and change the title.

You are right, I overlooked it. Just now changed the title...

[fahadj2003]

this wont jus be the xterminal right?
coz i'm about to install it right now..
jus backing up my stuff
and can anyone confirm that if u restore a back up of contacts *IM based*, they'll be merged and connected to my IM accounts *yahoo and msn*?
its ****ing irritating to arrange them -__-

[somekeystrokes]

im pretty sure of the fact tht if not any official update from nokia about meego on n900....thre surely ll be a fully functional meego image for n900.
The only diffrnce would be we ll have to install it ourslvs by downloading/flashing and all, and it ll not show up in the app manager as an update on the phone or anywhere on the nokia website tht it(n900) runs meego.

otherwise wat is the point trying it on n900 now as well..when they have the aava phone to test it?
why to have n900 name in the supported hardware list even for a pre-release, i mean why to relate meego with n900 at all?

[w00t]

this wont jus be the xterminal right?
coz i'm about to install it right now..
jus backing up my stuff
and can anyone confirm that if u restore a back up of contacts *IM based*, they'll be merged and connected to my IM accounts *yahoo and msn*?
its ****ing irritating to arrange them -__-

The n900 image is not ready. Wait.

[cfh11]

You are right, I overlooked it. Just now changed the title...

Err... but this is still 1.0.8..... v1.1 is due in Q4 2010.

[Spyker]

I strongly hope Nokia will remove this ugly and anti-ergonomic paradigm, which is the "long key press" (or "long touch") input they are currently using to display a contextual menu (that's what we see in the video). It's really hurting the user experience IMHO.

[fahadj2003]

The n900 image is not ready. Wait.

now where's the fun in that? :P
*still gonna do it* xD
*may lord be with me*

[ivnvir]

I strongly hope Nokia will remove this ugly and anti-ergonomic paradigm, which is the "long key press" (or "long touch") input they are currently using to display a contextual menu (that's what we see in the video). It's really hurting the user experience IMHO.

ok, but what's your idea/suggestion?

[gerbick]

Any success stories yet?

[Lullen]

I strongly hope Nokia will remove this ugly and anti-ergonomic paradigm, which is the "long key press" (or "long touch") input they are currently using to display a contextual menu (that's what we see in the video). It's really hurting the user experience IMHO.

No it is really awesome! :)

[Rauha]

Hating the new, Palm inspired, task switcher. Prettier but less usefull than the one on Maemo 5. Form>function. Seriously hope that there are alternative options for the card system.

http://meego.com/sites/all/files/imagecache/image_post_portrait/users/u3/meego-handset-switcher.png

[mrojas]

Hating the new, Palm inspired, task switcher. Prettier but less usefull than the one on Maemo 5. Form>function. Seriously hope that there are alternative options for the card system.

http://meego.com/sites/all/files/imagecache/image_post_portrait/users/u3/meego-handset-switcher.png

From the leaked Harmattan UI info, you can switch between that and the Fremantle "live preview" task switcher.

[Spyker]

ok, but what's your idea/suggestion?

My suggestion is to use a button/icon instead. If you don't have the space to put the right icon or button on the screen, that's simply mean your UI is not well designed.
Even two short key presses are better than one long key press. The shorter is the time to access your feature, the better is the user experience, that's it !

[fahadj2003]

no success
"invalid FIASCO file header"
anyone know what this is?
thats the error i got when i tried to flash

[benny1967]

My suggestion is to use a button/icon instead. If you don't have the space to put the right icon or button on the screen, that's simply mean your UI is not well designed.
Even two short key presses are better than one long key press. The shorter is the time to access your feature, the better is the user experience, that's it !

none of your suggestions would work for a link in the browser. double-tap already zooming in/out, and you can't add a symbol without breaking the website.

[godofwar424]

I really want this dualbooted lyk NOW!! I hope we dont have to wait too long!

[fahadj2003]

cant dualboot, this is a rootfs image or whatever its called

[godofwar424]

cant dualboot, this is a rootfs image or whatever its called

I mean when the actual image is up. Not the kickstart stuff. Also if you can dualboot ANDROID on the N900 via bootmenu.

Then I am sure (not certain) that you can dualboot this MeeGo release and Maemo.

[Spyker]

none of your suggestions would work for a link in the browser. double-tap already zooming in/out, and you can't add a symbol without breaking the website.

You can choose to display a menu overlay by default, or to use gestures (or even multi-touch), they are still plenty other solutions.

[Chrome]

- N900 MeeGo image .ks should be available within an hour
- Media player is not yet integrated
- Cellular modems are not integrated yet
- Remaining apps will be moving to the open in the coming weeks
- this first MeeGo Handset image is not meant for end-users
- MeeGo Basics | MeeGo - http://bit.ly/dn2WdJ
- http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering is the starting page where all information related to Release Engineering would be published.

Source: #MeeGo-meeting IRC

[cfh11]

-
- Cellular modems are not integrated yet


Well I guess the race w/Nitdroid for feature-parity is still on!

[Chrome]

Also no battery charging in this release:

<DawnFoster> ANSWER (given to me out of channel): no, no battery charging for n900 in this release.

[...boy]

well... we were supposed to see something groundbreaking and unique, some extraordinary experience
if it is delivered... judge for yourself but for me it is just another OS for mobiles, I can see no reason to choose MeeGo Vs. any other OS on the market now

I afraid that the opportunity that we had is just lost

[fatalsaint]

well... we were supposed to see something groundbreaking and unique, some extraordinary experience
if it is delivered... judge for yourself but for me it is just another OS for mobiles, I can see no reason to choose MeeGo Vs. any other OS on the market now

I afraid that the opportunity that we had is just lost

Uh......

What?

[kylepsp]

- N900 MeeGo image .ks should be available within an hour
- Media player is not yet integrated
- Cellular modems are not integrated yet
- Remaining apps will be moving to the open in the coming weeks
- this first MeeGo Handset image is not meant for end-users
- MeeGo Basics | MeeGo - http://bit.ly/dn2WdJ
- http://wiki.meego.com/Release_Engineering is the starting page where all information related to Release Engineering would be published.

Source: #MeeGo-meeting IRC

Would you be able to send the modem stuff to dj_steve he could really use it! lol

[...boy]

Uh......

What?

I know it may be tough comment done in faces of people emotinally related to Maemo / MeeGo (well... at least I am)

But I expected something extraoridynary (like MeeGo tablet UX is Vs other tablets)

and here we have just another OK OS

Honestly being an average consumer - hat is bettet in Meego handset UX Vs other OSs

[juandp77]

I know it may be tough comment done in faces of people emotinally related to Maemo / MeeGo (well... at least I am)

But I expected something extraoridynary (like MeeGo tablet UX is Vs other tablets)

and here we have just another OK OS

Honestly being an average consumer - hat is bettet in Meego handset UX Vs other OSs

this is pre-alfa release so we have to wait ti make final conclusions

[fatalsaint]

I know it may be tough comment done in faces of people emotinally related to Maemo / MeeGo (well... at least I am)

But I expected something extraoridynary (like MeeGo tablet UX is Vs other tablets)

and here we have just another OK OS

Honestly being an average consumer - hat is bettet in Meego handset UX Vs other OSs

With the exception of no phone-modem support.. this Alpha/Pre-release is pretty much exactly what I expected to see..

[Spyker]

I know it may be tough comment done in faces of people emotinally related to Maemo / MeeGo (well... at least I am)

But I expected something extraoridynary (like MeeGo tablet UX is Vs other tablets)

and here we have just another OK OS

Honestly being an average consumer - hat is bettet in Meego handset UX Vs other OSs

It's just a pre-alpha of the common UI design for the project... We have seen nothing yet. The Harmattan UI from Nokia may probably look quite different.

[MNX1024]

I just hope I can some how tri-boot Meego 1.1 with Maemo and Android(when dj_steve gets it to be fully functional).

Now, that would be awesome.

[fahadj2003]

can anyone tell me a workaround for 64bit and flasher3.5 issues?
i used up all the usb ports
a workaround or 30 min for fotmatting the pc

*edit
*formatting

[Parody]

I just hope I can some how tri-boot Meego 1.1 with Maemo and Android(when dj_steve gets it to be fully functional).

Now, that would be awesome.

The universe would explode.

[cenwesi]

lol, i am not even going to begin to comment on this... Android v3.0 will probably be out before Nokia and intel get meego out there. Sorry, but someone has to say it...

[Chrome]

#MeeGo-Meeting Full log here: http://trac.tspre.org/meetbot/meego-meeting/2010/meego-meeting.2010-06-30-18.59.log.html

You'll find a lot of useful information.

[fahadj2003]

I just hope I can some how tri-boot Meego 1.1 with Maemo and Android(when dj_steve gets it to be fully functional).

Now, that would be awesome.

not really impossible
if u can get a bigger memory card and create more partitions, it could work out

[sjgadsby]

lol, i am not even going to begin to comment on this... Android v3.0 will probably be out before Nokia and intel get meego out there.

MeeGo has two fixed release dates per year. The next one is October.

On the other hand, Android 3 is rumored to already be in testing by various handset manufacturers with a release scheduled for "mid-2010". So, if those rumors are true, Android 3 should be available as a finished product to end users first, yes.

[...boy]

When you look at Harmattan concept of having desktop filled with “operational” widgets (widgets which allows you to have almost full functionality of a application right on a screen without going into app itself) it was something to wait for, something that was making the UI ultra functional
(slides 9 and 10) http://www.slideshare.net/peterschneider/maemo-6-technology-highlights
and now what have we got – just another UI, very similar to others

Being average consumer who just need ultra functional and practical but also very pleasant to operate and just nice UI, I can see no reason to choose MeeGo Vs. any other OS on the market now

Is the opportunity do change the handset market lost for Nokia ?

… or perhaps not ?– does anybody know if Harmattan UI will be implemented in Nokia version of MeeGo ???

ps. I believe 2 thereads about MeeeGo for handsets should be merged - it is difficult to follow both (as thay are both so active)

[wmarone]

On the other hand, Android 3 is rumored to already be in testing by various handset manufacturers with a release scheduled for "mid-2010". So, if those rumors are true, Android 3 should be available as a finished product to end users first, yes.

Note that it's in testing by -manufacturers- but it is not at all available to the larger Android community. Whereas with MeeGo, the intention is that the bleeding edge of MeeGo will always be available to the public and manufacturers at the same time. Certainly, that's where I hope we are going with this.

That's one reason I will stick with MeeGo and not Android.

[jnwi]

It's just a pre-alpha of the common UI design for the project... We have seen nothing yet. The Harmattan UI from Nokia may probably look quite different.

We had better hope so. This is really boring and uninspired. If anything, it is what Symbian^4 could look like and get away with. All the talk about Maemo being a chance to do something beyond phones - there's nothing of that in today's release.

Not quite liking the fact that you can supposedly switch between the card switcher and grid switcher in Harmattan either. The advanced option should be the default, or even the only one, because even novices will benefit from it when they "get it". We're not talking vi level learning curves here.

This UI reeks of MeeGo finally becoming so big that the beancounters have started pushing it to a more mainstream mode of operation. But that will fail, because

a) Nokia doesn't need two Symbians

b) the N9 is at this point even more important as an advertising exercise than as a device, and it needs to make a big splash or Nokia's credibility is lost. Matching everyone else two years later is not enough. It needs to go where no one else will go, because Nokia is the only one that can tell all the people who can't handle it to buy Symbian instead.

c) the reference UI will probably be less advanced than the coming Android UI update.

[sepehrsfmech]

meego, who cares about it?
why are we using pr1.2
we should use pr1.1 to get free paid apps on ovi

[Parody]

One other thing came to mind: it better have widgets, or else I'm just going to stick with Maemo5.

[Crashdamage]

Android 3 is rumored to already be in testing by various handset manufacturers with a release scheduled for "mid-2010". So, if those rumors are true, Android 3 should be available as a finished product to end users first, yes.
It already IS 'mid-2010' - June 30th. And Android 2.2 is just trickling out. So I'm gonna stick my neck out and predict the rumors were wrong.

[sjgadsby]

One other thing came to mind: it better have widgets, or else I'm just going to stick with Maemo5.

Like Symbian, MeeGo-Harmattan will support Nokia Web Runtime (WRT), which should bring loads of widgets. While I have not yet tried the plug-in for Aptana Studio, it appears to be fairly slick (http://vimeo.com/6888172).

[...boy]

We had better hope so. This is really boring and uninspired. If anything, it is what Symbian^4 could look like and get away with. All the talk about Maemo being a chance to do something beyond phones - there's nothing of that in today's release.

Not quite liking the fact that you can supposedly switch between the card switcher and grid switcher in Harmattan either. The advanced option should be the default, or even the only one, because even novices will benefit from it when they "get it". We're not talking vi level learning curves here.

This UI reeks of MeeGo finally becoming so big that the beancounters have started pushing it to a more mainstream mode of operation. But that will fail, because

a) Nokia doesn't need two Symbians

b) the N9 is at this point even more important as an advertising exercise than as a device, and it needs to make a big splash or Nokia's credibility is lost. Matching everyone else two years later is not enough. It needs to go where no one else will go, because Nokia is the only one that can tell all the people who can't handle it to buy Symbian instead.

c) the reference UI will probably be less advanced than the coming Android UI update.

so true...

I believe the look of the UI can be improved
... but I really miss the genius concept of Harmattan: having desktop filled with “operational” widgets (widgets which allows you to have almost full functionality of a application right on a screen without going into app itself) it was something that was making the UI ultra functional

[Odd_gunnic]

I find it funny the contrast between Engadget's commenters (they love it!) and TMO...Mainstream.

Oh and by the way are there any screenshots of the email application?

[mrojas]

I find it funny the contrast between Engadget's commenters (they love it!) and TMO...Mainstream.

Oh and by the way are there any screenshots of the email application?

I remember what Canola main dev said once:

"We are not the users."

[jsa]

When you look at Harmattan concept of having desktop filled with “operational” widgets (widgets which allows you to have almost full functionality of a application right on a screen without going into app itself) it was something to wait for, something that was making the UI ultra functional ...

... does anybody know if Harmattan UI will be implemented in Nokia version of MeeGo ???

Yes, it will. At least have widgets in home screens..

[jnwi]

I remember what Canola main dev said once:

"We are not the users."

Yes, and that's a healthy attitude, but take it too far and you end up with Gnome.

[schettj]

I kinda like the UI.... its like a weird mix of iOS4 and Android. On acid. With a cartoon in the background.

Excellent....

[TheBootroo]

the 1.1 .ks file for n900 is really out now :

http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php?f=meego-handset-armv7l-n900-nokia-closed-1.0.80.8.20100630.ks

can anyone with a fedora 12 generate an dualboot image please ?

[...boy]

Yes, it will. At least have widgets in home screens..

but from this:
http://meego.com/developers/ui-design-guidelines/handset/meego-basics

there is no "homescreen" just:

Lock Screen - Presented when user first wakes up the device.
Home - Access to open applications through the switcher. Favorite applications are presented, as well as access to launcher.
Launcher- Access to all applications available in the device


but on the other paper describing MeeGo for handsets (bananas and something)I saw some infor about "homescree"

... so what it the reality then ?

[Odd_gunnic]

http://meego.com/sites/all/files/users/u36/gesture-twoFingerLongPress.png Two-finger long Press (Press, Wait, Release) Select text (non-editable text fields)

Liking the CUT COPY PASTE solution they came up with, was a little cumbersome on the N900

[fatalsaint]

http://meego.com/sites/all/files/users/u36/gesture-twoFingerLongPress.png Two-finger long Press (Press, Wait, Release) Select text (non-editable text fields)

Liking the CUT COPY PASTE solution they came up with, was a little cumbersome on the N900

I doubt this will work on the N900.

[Parody]

I doubt this will work on the N900.

Man, it would be a dream come true if we will find out that the N900's digitizer supports multitouch :)

[fahadj2003]

middle finger
its jus a xterminal -__-
gotta flash it back to pr1.2 -__-

[jsa]

middle finger
its jus a xterminal -__-
gotta flash it back to pr1.2 -__-

I think more than one people in this very thread said it's the old image.. :) The good news is, that the .ks file to make a new one is now up and there's people writing instructions on how to build the image.

[fahadj2003]

a) whats ks?
b) it gave me a list of options including ks and meego-codedrop-arm-n900-closed-201003311635.ubiimg
flashed meego-codedrop-arm-n900-closed-201003311635.ubiimg and it turns out to be a 178mb xterminal :|
whatever happened to dos?
it fits in a floppy disk :|

** edit
by it, i meant the download page

[wmarone]

a) whats ks?
A "kickstart" file, basically a script used by the MeeGo image builder to construct an image.

b) it gave me a list of options including ks and meego-codedrop-arm-n900-closed-201003311635.ubiimg
flashed meego-codedrop-arm-n900-closed-201003311635.ubiimg and it turns out to be a 178mb xterminal :|

Correct, that's an -old- image from the end of March.

whatever happened to dos?
it fits in a floppy disk :|
DOS was also only fractionally as capable as that terminal only image. The console only image includes all of X and Qt 4.6.

[Jack6428]

I know it's hardly finished, but it's ugly as hell. Why does it have to look like an Android OS or Iphone OS clone? Maemo 5 was and is unique.. jeez.

[railroadmaster]

I really don't like the UI it looks iPhoneish. I wish they picked something else for phones.

[wmarone]

I know it's hardly finished, but it's ugly as hell. Why does it have to look like an Android OS or Iphone OS clone? Maemo 5 was and is unique.. jeez.

Well here's the awesome thing about the project:

It's open source, even more so than Maemo. So if you really, really don't like the UI then you can create your own.

[NvyUs]

eldar is saying the nokia interface is much better what he's seen on the N9.
so even if people dont like reference UI chances are you will like one of the vendor specific ones just buy what suites you

[Jack6428]

Well here's the awesome thing about the project:

It's open source, even more so than Maemo. So if you really, really don't like the UI then you can create your own.

Well that's cool and all, but you do realize that not everyone has the skills and considering MeeGo is a mainstream OS, there shouldn't be a need to know how to do that stuff. I really don't understand what's so cool on the Android and IPhone UI that other developers and comapanies must copy it, it's lame, very lame and without any sense of originality. Until they come up with something nice (MeeGo tablet UI on a phone device), I'm not buying it.

[fatalsaint]

eldar is saying the nokia interface is much better what he's seen on the N9.
so even if people dont like reference UI chances are you will like one of the vendor specific ones just by wjat suites your

The other thing is, as wmarone said above, if those vendors release their UI's - or other third parties develop their own UI's like wmarone suggested... those should also be packageable and installable on any MeeGo device you would think. So, even if you don't like the one the vendor gives you it's likely easily replaceable.

(How the whole dual mode/security posture will work into that I don't know..)

[danramos]

Aaaand I'm guessing that the N800/810/WE will NOT be privvy to any of this.

[lma]

Kinda underwhelming compared to what's already out there, and it looks way too phone-oriented for my taste. Note also how they just retconned "MeeGo Handheld" into "MeeGo Handset" :-(

[fatalsaint]

Aaaand I'm guessing that the N800/810/WE will NOT be privvy to any of this.

I'm guessing that's more of a question for here ('http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=317').

[wmarone]

Well that's cool and all, but you do realize that not everyone has the skills and considering MeeGo is a mainstream OS, there shouldn't be a need to know how to do that stuff.
The GUI you see now is -not- the mainstream GUI. Nokia, whoever uses this on their devices will likely create their own. This is the reference GUI that the average person will never use.

If you buy a Nokia MeeGo, or LG MeeGo device, you won't see this interface. Maybe something similar, maybe not.

If you at all work with the community version, you'll probably use this initially or eventually someone will use a modified version. Who knows.

fatalsaint:
Sadly, I suspect that vendor-UIs (other than Nokia) will probably keep their homescreen UIs very proprietary.

[fatalsaint]

fatalsaint:
Sadly, I suspect that vendor-UIs (other than Nokia) will probably keep their homescreen UIs very proprietary.

I'm pretty sure of that as well - but still, the main point in what I'm saying is that I am sure third-parties or open source people will make their own UI's, or modify the Reference UI here, and I would imagine that those would be installable on any MeeGo device if you don't like what you get "from the factory" so to speak.

[elris]

Hey, do you think there will be something like Easy Debian on MeeGo? Maybe Easy Fedora?

[superg05]

It already IS 'mid-2010' - June 30th. And Android 2.2 is just trickling out. So I'm gonna stick my neck out and predict the rumors were wrong.

http://www.machackpc.com/featured/nvidia-tegra-and-android-os-3-0-gingerbread-a-winning-formula/

[fatalsaint]

Hey, do you think there will be something like Easy Debian on MeeGo? Maybe Easy Fedora?

Easy Debian is Debian and has nothing to do with Maemo at all. It's it's own Debian core that runs in a chroot with Qole's scripts to make it "integrated" with Maemo.

Easy Debian as Easy Debian should certainly be functional on MeeGo with some modifications to the scripts that qole uses.

If you want an Easy Fedora.. that's probably possible too using Fedora's ARM repositories.

But you don't need an "Easy Fedora" just because it's MeeGo and RPM based.. the Easy "XYZ" systems have nothing at all to do with their hosts.

[wmarone]

Easy Debian is Debian and has nothing to do with Maemo at all. It's it's own Debian core that runs in a chroot with Qole's scripts to make it "integrated" with Maemo.

Because there are few finer "yo dawg"s than installing an OS inside of your OS :D

Only better one I can think of is calculus.

[mrojas]

The other thing is, as wmarone said above, if those vendors release their UI's - or other third parties develop their own UI's like wmarone suggested... those should also be packageable and installable on any MeeGo device you would think. So, even if you don't like the one the vendor gives you it's likely easily replaceable.

(How the whole dual mode/security posture will work into that I don't know..)

Not gonna happen. So, let's say Nokia release a MeeGo device and you buy a LG phone, but don't like the UI, so you take the Nokia UI and put it in your LG phone? I don't think it is going to be fair for the vendor; because it's the precise the UI where they invest cash and want to be different. It may be possible (like the HTC Sense UI being ported to other Android devices); but I don't think it will be supported.

What should happen is that you could replace without major problems, the vendor UI for the generic UI we have just seen.

[fatalsaint]

Not gonna happen. So, let's say Nokia release a MeeGo device and you buy a LG phone, but don't like the UI, so you take the Nokia UI and put it in your LG phone? I don't think it is going to be fair for the vendor; because it's the precise the UI where they invest cash and want to be different. It may be possible (like the HTC Sense UI being ported to other Android devices); but I don't think it will be supported.

What should happen is that you could replace without major problems, the vendor UI for the generic UI we have just seen.

Again, I feel it depends if the Vendor releases their UI to the public.

So if Nokia releases a MeeGo device with UI X, and LG releases a device with UI Y, but both Nokia and LG keep their UI's closed - then yes, not going to happen.

If Nokia releases MeeGo device with UI X, and releases UI X out to the open, then LG releases device UI Y... You should be able to replace UI Y with UI X. It's all MeeGo.

Supported or not is different.. will LG Support support you with a Nokia UI? Probably not as they won't know the UI to even help you. But it should be possible to load.

Now, replace LG and Nokia with Open Source developers/names (not companies, just random joe on the internet) - and the same thing should be possible. Say we end up with UI A B and C from the public for MeeGo then both devices from Nokia and LG should be able to load those 3 UI's as well should the user want.

But again.. the restrictions will come into how closed the devices themselves are; and how the security framework will work with MeeGo.

[6sicSIX]

Is it possible to boot the preview off of a MicroSD?

[jsa]

Is it possible to boot the preview off of a MicroSD?

For now that's the recommended way of doing it.. once someone gets an image created, that is.

[6sicSIX]

A-ha! Good. I read somewhere that it would use it's own kernel so it would be impossible, was hoping that wasn't the case as I don't want to disturb maemo..

[jaysire]

hat is bettet in Meego

Hat is bettet indeed. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[chase15]

It looks nice.. if someone successfully flashed it on n900, please make a video of it.. thanks....

[maxximuscool]

http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/meego-codedrop.php

meego-handset-armv7l-n900-nokia-closed-1.0.80.8.20100630.ks

[maxximuscool]

These device looks great! For MeeGo. 2Mp front camera F-T-W?

http://www.aavamobile.com/specs.php

[Optln]

I installed Fedora, just to build a MeeGo image. Anyone is successful booting from N900 yet?

Edit: It seems kickstart file is broken(or something like that) and we have to wait tomorrow.

[kojacker]

Hat is bettet indeed. Couldn't have said it better myself.
lol I just spat out a piece of my Subway sandwich laughing after reading that! :D:o

[maxximuscool]

a) whats ks?
b) it gave me a list of options including ks and meego-codedrop-arm-n900-closed-201003311635.ubiimg
flashed meego-codedrop-arm-n900-closed-201003311635.ubiimg and it turns out to be a 178mb xterminal :|
whatever happened to dos?
it fits in a floppy disk :|

** edit
by it, i meant the download page

KS = Kick Start!

[zaoltryence]

hope it'll look like this or even better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW5wpg5epMs&feature=player_embedded#!

[Lullen]

@ everyone complaining about copycats: Meego is a big copy of everything, windows, mac, linux etc etc(terminal, icons, mouse pointer etc etc)! Things becomes better because people copy others and make it a LOT better!

If you want to say anything against this, look at the wheel!

[mtrower2]

I just posted this in another thread, but here it is for everyone to lazy to go find it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtQsOb6mO0A

[fatalsaint]

How To for your N900. (Ubuntu, and somewhat Fedora.. refers to wiki :p)

http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=4812

[maemosboy]

Would someone share ready image so we no need to everyone build it?

[fatalsaint]

Would someone share ready image so we no need to everyone build it?

Considering the built image contains proprietary nokia binaries.





No.

[lucas777]

Does anyone know already if flash 10.1 will come to meego? i search but could not find anything helpful

[ZShakespeare]

Flash 10 should be available for MeeGo at some point at or before the first stable release.

[maemosboy]

Considering the built image contains proprietary nokia binaries.





No.


??????????:confused::confused:

[jsa]

Flash 10 should be available for MeeGo at some point at or before the first stable release.

Hold on there.. may I ask where you got that? This kind of contradicts with the 100 % open source goal. I wouldn't bet on it. AFAIU it's up to the device manufacturers to add Flash support for their products.

[ossipena]

??????????:confused::confused:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprietary_software

...further distribution...

[Rauha]

These device looks great! For MeeGo. 2Mp front camera F-T-W?

http://www.aavamobile.com/specs.php

Aava doesn't make products for consumers. They make prototypes and reference platforms for ODM/OEMs and sofware developers.

Sad really, cause Aava Virta would be the most beautiful gadget name ever.

[depu]

Hold on there.. may I ask where you got that? This kind of contradicts with the 100 % open source goal. I wouldn't bet on it. AFAIU it's up to the device manufacturers to add Flash support for their products.

Its mentioned in the Adobe Flash Press release (http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/201006/06222010FlashPlayerAvailability.html).

And Meego doesnt have a 100% opensource goal for all apps running on it. Only the core of Meego is to be opensource and that too might depend on the manufacturer to do.
Meego only provides a base OS for others to build on.

[Parody]

I know it's pre-alpha, but here are some things that bothered me right off the bat:
http://i50.tinypic.com/19nhhu.png

1: the menu button looks as if none of the maemo 5 minimalism carried over (which is odd, because judging from some other icons it appears that it has)

2: I'm not liking the card system of switching apps, the thumbnails from Maemo 5 worked just fine, although I've heard that will also be an option which doesn't make it so bad. I guess it's nice to have different options.

3: So much redundant space! I wish the text was closer to the icons and that they were 4x4 (or maybe even 4x5), also I really dislike the iPhone styled scrolling, it just makes very little sense.

4: Personally, I liked slide-to-unlock more but anyways, the position of the icon looks a bit uncomfortable although I've seen that it will be on the bottom as well. Other than personal preference, I think this is actually ok.

Anyways, it's pre-alpha so most of this will be improved, so while I know I'm basically complaining about how the unfinished product is unfinished, I wanted to say something anyway. If I take the unfinished state of this into consideration, then it's pretty obvious that MeeGo will actually end up looking totally rad.

Sorry for the TL;DR rant :P

[Optln]

@Parody

Phones that will use MeeGo will be mostly capacitive screens. Most of features you don't like are related to this. Maemo was an internet tablet OS, optimized for stylus. But looks like MeeGo is optimized for fingers.

[jsa]

Its mentioned in the Adobe Flash Press release (http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/pressroom/pressreleases/201006/06222010FlashPlayerAvailability.html).

And Meego doesnt have a 100% opensource goal for all apps running on it. Only the core of Meego is to be opensource and that too might depend on the manufacturer to do.
Meego only provides a base OS for others to build on.

Okay, I may have been a bit hasty. Now that I look at the post I replied to, he said "for", not "in".

But MeeGo the project does have a 100 % open goal, which means that the whole deliverable from the project including core OS and reference UX will be open source. Flash would be in the "others to build on it" category. That's why I said in my post that it's up to the manufacturer to add support. Obviously Flash has to support MeeGo, like said in the Adobe press release if someone is going to preinstall it on a device running the OS.

[Parody]

@Parody

Phones that will use MeeGo will be mostly capacitive screens. Most of features you don't like are related to this. Maemo was an internet tablet OS, optimized for stylus. But looks like MeeGo is optimized for fingers.

Hopefully the N900 community made version will be more optimized for its resistive display :)

The menu launcher still looks like a damned traffic sign though :(

[NvyUs]

its just a bloody icon what will probably look different when different vendors ship there own default themes or users make themes,
more important vendors will most probably build there own customised UI on top so in places it will look nothing like the reference UI release so stop judging too early

[ivnvir]

the problem of unlocking from top of the phone is that you can't unlock with just one hand, at least most of the time...

[Odd_gunnic]

I know it's pre-alpha, but here are some things that bothered me right off the bat:
http://i50.tinypic.com/19nhhu.png

1: the menu button looks as if none of the maemo 5 minimalism carried over (which is odd, because judging from some other icons it appears that it has)

2: I'm not liking the card system of switching apps, the thumbnails from Maemo 5 worked just fine, although I've heard that will also be an option which doesn't make it so bad. I guess it's nice to have different options.

3: So much redundant space! I wish the text was closer to the icons and that they were 4x4 (or maybe even 4x5), also I really dislike the iPhone styled scrolling, it just makes very little sense.

4: Personally, I liked slide-to-unlock more but anyways, the position of the icon looks a bit uncomfortable although I've seen that it will be on the bottom as well. Other than personal preference, I think this is actually ok.

Anyways, it's pre-alpha so most of this will be improved, so while I know I'm basically complaining about how the unfinished product is unfinished, I wanted to say something anyway. If I take the unfinished state of this into consideration, then it's pretty obvious that MeeGo will actually end up looking totally rad.

Sorry for the TL;DR rant :P

If you look at the developer guidelines the images show a 4x4 grid...
dont stress over that

[eMiL]

I think they should have released this pre-alpha with LESS graphics and detail. Now it almost look like a end-user UI (UX) wich it is not, not by a long shot!

And since it's linux based the customisation possibilities are endless.

Think about how much the Maemo themes differ from each other! I like what I'm seeing and the fact is: It's only going to get better! :)

[pelago]

Oh and by the way are there any screenshots of the email application?

The MeeGo project hasn't released its email app yet, or media player or calendar, but those are supposed to be moving to the open within the next few weeks.

Regarding unlocking, according to http://meego.com/developers/ui-design-guidelines/handset/meego-basics unlocking will be via a slide action.

[Viipottaja]

I hope there will be a proper homescreen(s) a la Maemo5 - from the "Meego Basics" website its not evident... but I am sure Nokia will include it, would be too strange not to I'd think.

[radiowc]

Man! cant wait to get this Handset. Yes !

[NvyUs]

the vibe i'm getting is the homescreen might be left to each vendor to do there own, i have seen a brief mention of a homescreen but it seems to just be blank screen with dock in reference UI, we will need to wait longer to be sure

[sevla]

I kind of like the blank hoemscreen look..

Was never really a fan of widgets..

[ZShakespeare]

I've always been torn. The desktop should be useful and useable, but on the other hand I always like the clean look of an empty desktop.

[Parody]

I kind of like the blank hoemscreen look..

Was never really a fan of widgets..

Personally I think they should add widgets, because if someone doesn't like them they can simply not put them on the homescreen.

[fnordianslip]

If you want to say anything against this, look at the wheel!
Some comedian (I forget who) pointed out that the invention of the 2nd wheel was far more important than the first.

[crsnwby]

What extra does this do to Maemo 5????

Apart from look crappier?

[Viipottaja]

Well it has multi-touch.. ;)

[ZShakespeare]

The N900 doesn't have multi-touch though.

[crsnwby]

Well it has multi-touch.. ;)

ohhhhhhhhhhhh..........:)

[crsnwby]

The N900 doesn't have multi-touch though.

ahhhhhhhhhhh.....:mad:

[ZShakespeare]

I saw a video once of a cell phone that let you "place a marker" on the screen and the use your finger to zoom based on it's position with the marker. Kinda like an emulated multitouch. We could probably so something like that.

[Heman1310]

I saw a video once of a cell phone that let you "place a marker" on the screen and the use your finger to zoom based on it's position with the marker. Kinda like an emulated multitouch. We could probably so something like that.

Yes. For instance you can place one finger on the proximity sensor and swipe your other finger across the screen to do a "fake" multitouch.

[etuoyo]

No home screen? I would really really hate that like crazy. The thing I love most about the N900 (apart from Conboy Notes) is the ability to have four desktops and put four different pictures of my baby boy as wallpaper and put any widgets and short cuts anywhere I want.

Although the fact my media player widget play button doesn't work and that my widgets keep disappearing does reduce the usefuleness of widgets but with someone other than Nokia involved I am more confident the widgets on meego would work.

[Brunorange]

Hmm, looks meh! Numbers on dialpad too small, icons too small for that screen size (and only 3 rows... I want/like/they could easily fit 4 = more stuff to quick launch)

[ScottishDuck]

Currently a ubiimg build is ~512MB

Do not hold your breath on meego ever working as a primary OS on n900.

[shreif]

sorry noob here i wonder if i flash this image will the current software of my phone still be there? or will i have to re flash it again after using meego ?:D

[fahadj2003]

Currently a ubiimg build is ~512MB

Do not hold your breath on meego ever working as a primary OS on n900.

how did u know?
it says aroung 178 mbs in the download repo

[fatalsaint]

how did u know?
it says aroung 178 mbs in the download repo

The new build from 1.1 pre-release is just a small .ks file. You have to completely build your own.

If you build a ubiimg it is 500+MB in size. The maximum the N900 internal flash can hold is 256MB.

So there is definitely going to be issues getting MeeGo with the full UI loaded into the flash memory of the N900. Which is unfortunate.

If it ever gets stable enough to truly use, whats likely going to happen is we'll have to install it to the internal 32GB SD or keep it on an External and just do a permanent kernel flash that boots from SD.

[EverythingBlaxx]

I know it's pre-alpha, but here are some things that bothered me right off the bat:
http://i50.tinypic.com/19nhhu.png

1: the menu button looks as if none of the maemo 5 minimalism carried over (which is odd, because judging from some other icons it appears that it has)

2: I'm not liking the card system of switching apps, the thumbnails from Maemo 5 worked just fine, although I've heard that will also be an option which doesn't make it so bad. I guess it's nice to have different options.

3: So much redundant space! I wish the text was closer to the icons and that they were 4x4 (or maybe even 4x5), also I really dislike the iPhone styled scrolling, it just makes very little sense.

4: Personally, I liked slide-to-unlock more but anyways, the position of the icon looks a bit uncomfortable although I've seen that it will be on the bottom as well. Other than personal preference, I think this is actually ok.

Anyways, it's pre-alpha so most of this will be improved, so while I know I'm basically complaining about how the unfinished product is unfinished, I wanted to say something anyway. If I take the unfinished state of this into consideration, then it's pretty obvious that MeeGo will actually end up looking totally rad.

Sorry for the TL;DR rant :P

The iPhone styled side-scrolling actually makes a lot of sense. I easily have over 90 menu items on my N900 and it's a lot easier to see 12 menu items at a time than having to scroll up and down til I find what I want

[Turkishflavor]

no panorama-desktops anymore? too bad :(

[n900faniam]

I think for the typical n900 user who needs the phone to keep working in a normal state its probably worth waiting for the enhanced and more stable release in Oct.

beta testing an entirely new os on your primary handset is probably not a good idea.

Rock on meego developers! cant wait till the 1.1 release in oct

[zifis]

I really don't see what the fuss is all about...

Is it about the look of the UI & desktop? that's really subjective...

Is it about functionality and app accessibility? I can already access anything in my n900 with a tap ...

Is it about better power management and performance? My n900 runs at least 48 hours with music, browsing, calls and gaming...

Is it about customization? I make my own wallpapers, never seen screen shots of desktops with the same button-shortcut-widget-contact arrangement. No N900 is exactly the same as another...

Is it about connectivity and compatibility? Never had any issue connecting or transferring or synchronizing with my pc, notebook or other mobile devices. Wifi never failed to cennect and I have downloaded torrents as fast as 1.1 Mb/sec

Is it about media playing? Especially now that shake2control is out, I can't get enough of it. Will you really ever watch 1080p movies on your phone? The screen can't give you more than 800X480 wake T F up!

After all, all hi tech gadgets are today's breakthrough and tomorrow's old news. Haven't you figured that out yet?

So really, what is all the fuss about?

[Ayle]

The new build from 1.1 pre-release is just a small .ks file. You have to completely build your own.

If you build a ubiimg it is 500+MB in size. The maximum the N900 internal flash can hold is 256MB.

So there is definitely going to be issues getting MeeGo with the full UI loaded into the flash memory of the N900. Which is unfortunate.

If it ever gets stable enough to truly use, whats likely going to happen is we'll have to install it to the internal 32GB SD or keep it on an External and just do a permanent kernel flash that boots from SD.

And what's wrong with putting the OS in the eMMC? From booting nitdroid and using it on a class 2 microSD I think the benefits of the oneNAND are kinda overrated IMHO.

[sjgadsby]

And what's wrong with putting the OS in the eMMC?

It's slower. However, from what Nokia has said on the mailing lists, they're working on minimizing that slowdown so Harmattan can use eMMC for its rootfs. Presumably, the fruits of that labor will be available for MeeGo-on-N900 developers to use, so the N900 should suffer no performance hit from using eMMC beyond that which affects all other MeeGo offerings.

[ScottishDuck]

Progress.

http://imgur.com/Nvi29.png

Current status: cutting fat off, no functionality lost.

[fahadj2003]

can someone upload the flashable image?
i dont know how to create one :(

[weißelstone]

Current status: cutting fat off, no functionality lost.
FAT support or just fat like fat people?

[fahadj2003]

any update?
can the device get ota updates when new software features like telepathy support arrives or do we have to reflash?
anyone found out anything new?

[fatalsaint]

any update?
can the device get ota updates when new software features like telepathy support arrives or do we have to reflash?
anyone found out anything new?

Its no where near this level. There is hardly working wifi and no cellular modem drivers for the N900 at this point.

[fahadj2003]

but october is too far :(

[faraon]

Could someone please clarify for me, do we have meego HANDSET sdk at the moment? I downloaded sdk from meego site, but it has netbook simulator inside. So, can I start to develop for meego smartphones somehow?

Thanks.

-Aleksandr

[EverythingBlaxx]

Could someone please clarify for me, do we have meego HANDSET sdk at the moment? I downloaded sdk from meego site, but it has netbook simulator inside. So, can I start to develop for meego smartphones somehow?

Thanks.

-Aleksandr

Not yet. Closest thing we got is Qt SDK

[ScottishDuck]

http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.0.80.10.20100711.1/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.0.80.10.20100711.1-raw.tar.bz2

This DOESNT CONTAIN ANY CLOSED BITS, so it won't work very well.

[realceday]

Latest build.

http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.0.80.11.20100719.1-raw.tar.bz2

[venkat_i22]

hi all,

i haven't gone though entire post...??
quick questions

1. Does portrait mode support virtual keyboard
2. do we have video-call (mainly over 3G directly from phone)
3. does it support flash10.
4 how does this OS gel with dual boot on Nokia n900
5. does it support multitasking.....

[attila77]

Just to avoid confusion - MeeGo has nothing to do with Flash, Skype and sorts - they are not, and hopefully never be part of MeeGo (just as they aren't part of Debian). Actual releases made by vendors will of course include whatever the vendor thinks it's important, but MeeGo, as a base, only includes Free software.

PS. also, 'supports flash 10' is misleading, as one could say Maemo 5 (being proper linux and all) already supports flash 10, it's just that you can't download it from anywhere.

[fahadj2003]

Latest build.

http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/handset/images/meego-handset-armv7l-n900/meego-handset-armv7l-n900-1.0.80.11.20100719.1-raw.tar.bz2

cant download it :S

[yamakasi]

Well! I was waiting for this the whole day today.

I hope you guys post pictures/video of this thing running on N900 asap :)

i don't know if someone has posted this already but, there you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtQsOb6mO0A&feature=related