Meego 1.1 UX on N900 Video

[thommy]

Here's a new video I spotted on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAtS5EUVAZ4

[magullo]

thanks.
It looks like maemo is still more attractive :)

[superg05]

so is that the new one from here?
http://www.nokian900applications.com/install-meego-preview-on-nokia-n900/

[Stskeeps]

Development image, don't expect much :)

[F2thaK]

painful to watch its so slow

[maxximuscool]

one word to describe this: CRAP!

[DonPIZI]

wow... very slow ... but looks good :)

[marktold]

I sure hope it will look more like the pre Alpha for MeGoo for Tablets

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB-nnFhGKbk

Regards Markus

[ZShakespeare]

There is absolutely no way that it's going to be ready for October. I also doubt it's ever going to run smoothly on the n900's hardware. More likely they'll be focusing on the next gen ARM and Intel hardware as the baseline.

[Spyker]

In its actual state Meego has still a long way to run before it's complete.
October sounds very optimistic for a release date, to me too.
With the "time-to-market" pressure, I really hope Nokia won't release a half-finished software for its computer-phone, otherwise it will end-up in another new toy for open-source enthusiasts only...

[pycage]

In its actual state Meego has still a long way to run before it's complete.
October sounds very optimistic for a release date, to me too.
With the "time-to-market" pressure, I really hope Nokia won't release a half-finished software for its computer-phone, otherwise it will end-up in another new toy for open-source enthusiasts only...

This is not what Nokia is going to sell. This is the MeeGo handset reference UI. It can be used by manufacturers to base their UI upon. I'm pretty sure Harmattan UI will be more along the lines of Maemo5 or Symbian^3 / ^4.

[tissot]

This is not what Nokia is going to sell. This is the MeeGo handset reference UI. It can be used by manufacturers to base their UI upon. I'm pretty sure Harmattan UI will be more along the lines of Maemo5 or Symbian^3 / ^4.

Harmattan/MeeGo isn't only about the UI so people really shouldn't compare Meego handheld UX and Nokia's MeeGo/Harmattan dates too much like you said.
Here's the supposed MeeGo/Harmattan UI shown to those who haven't seen it yet after all the youtube videos have been taken out by Nokia.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xe8lvo_techguru-meego_tech

[fadimck]

i believe that this is a beta version for a developer not Nokia

[slaapliedje]

So I just installed it on my N900. I'll put up a video of it tomorrow, most likely.

My review of it's current state...

For the record, this was the image version 1.0.80.15.2010817.

This was the Nokia Proprietary raw image, with kernel 2.6.35-11.2-n900.

Let's start off by saying it actually probably boots faster than Maemo5 does. It just doesn't seem so because of the handshake boot up and dots going across the screen for Maemo5 blocks the kernel output.

Also the first time you boot it, it takes a bit of time to generate the ssh key.

The video looked a abit different than mine (probably the 1.1 vs 1.0? but they didn't have a 1.1 nokia proprietary one...though looking through the MeeGo repositories, it's the second to latest image anyhow. Latest being dated 2010820).

What I liked;

1. When you clicked on an icon, rather than a hourglass, or loading bar, you have a squarish circle appear around the icon. It's segmented and you'll see a sort of progression of a solid blue color that goes around the icon while the app loads.

2. Task manager. Similar to Maemo5's task manager, except that the window takes most of the screen, and you scroll through it, more like the desktop Alt+Tab, but with a close button. This is a "I like it, but not necessarily better than Maemo5" rating. It is more readable, and easier to close apps on it, but not as cool looking or functional.

What I didn't like;

1.The bar at the bottom where in the video there were applications, this one only had four white squares at the bottom that when pressed would open up the application menu. Similar to what the button in the upper left does on Maemo5. Problem is, the Icons are under the semi-transparent bar that looks like a launch dock.

2. The Battery/antenna/Clock bar is separate from the application bar. It's tiny at the top, which is nice, but then you have this big fat Application bar that looks VERY much like Android. You can click the House button and it brings up the task manager. Then it has some test widgets, etc.

I realize this is just a preview, and that this is supposed to be the 'standard' MeeGo UI for handsets, and not what Nokia plans on making.

Guess we'll see what the full 1.1 has in store. The video on Youtube seems to be more likely 1.0.7 or something.

slaapliedje

[dtergens]

another video, MeeGo Handset UX Build 20100907 on Nokia N900
look great, seems better and better day after day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO0VoHtVdY8

[daperl]

Thanks for the link, but who besides me is tired of watching people that don't know how to use a resistive touch screen? I'm sure MeeGo is to blame for some of it, but she simply sucks at the n900.

Doesn't anyone rehearse any more?

[bxbomber]

Looks nice, I really hope nokia doesn't half *** the nokia n9.

[Reffyyyy]

Thanks for the link, but who besides me is tired of watching people that don't know how to use a resistive touch screen? I'm sure MeeGo is to blame for some of it, but she simply sucks at the n900.

Doesn't anyone rehearse any more?

I don't think it's anything to do with the screen. I think it's just the interface is generally not responsive right now.

[daperl]

I don't think it's anything to do with the screen. I think it's just the interface is generally not responsive right now.

No, she sucks. As of a few weeks ago, the app launcher was certainly having some lag issues, but notice the difference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLqbH-6JMVk).

[n900 lover]

i dont know about you guys but these videos are making me miss maemo, even though i still have it on my phone.... i dont know if this is what meego is gonna look like but it kinda reminds me of android in certain aspects and i really dont like that.

give me maemo anyday over any other OS around.

[Reffyyyy]

No, she sucks. As of a few weeks ago, the app launcher was certainly having some lag issues, but notice the difference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLqbH-6JMVk).

Ahhhh. Yeah, you're right. I fail to see how people can have problems when using resistive screens.

[dtergens]

No, she sucks. As of a few weeks ago, the app launcher was certainly having some lag issues, but notice the difference (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLqbH-6JMVk).
so you mean that there's a difference between a man and a women gesture ? \o/ :D I'm going out...

[aironeous]

Wait a second....what the hell is this I just stumbled across while watching meego on N900 youtube videos?!

flash 10.1 tweak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMjvZ0p4YMQ&feature=related
I'm not a programmer, someone please esplain.

Oh and meego 1.1 on a proto device with a faster processor 1.5ghz.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqpVP414WJo&feature=related

[JayBEE]

Wait a second....what the hell is this I just stumbled across while watching meego on N900 youtube videos?!

flash 10.1 tweak
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMjvZ0p4YMQ&feature=related
I'm not a programmer, someone please esplain.

Oh that's just the Tweak Flash plugin (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=59336), it's been around for a bit now.

[Ignacius]

If I have to believe this (Meego 1.1) is going to be ready for production on October/November, just let me be a little exceptical. As for now, I think Maemo's UI is far way better....

[aironeous]

I like that word Exceptical....
Let's get exceptically creative and use that word in some sentences.

[aironeous]

Oh that's just the Tweak Flash plugin (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=59336), it's been around for a bit now.

Holy s**t thanks, how did i not see this before?
Wait a second ....... I just thanked you instead of atilla who created the program....
That's an exceptical error.

[Laughing Man]

If I have to believe this (Meego 1.1) is going to be ready for production on October/November, just let me be a little exceptical. As for now, I think Maemo's UI is far way better....

Is vanilla Meego (not Harmattan-Meego which has a different UI) suppose to be ready for production by October/November?

[bxbomber]

Lately i've been seeing more and more people saying the first nokia device will be a meego-harmattan hybrid as oppsed to meego 1.1, can anyone explain to me the true difference of these devices, and will we be able to run all meego apps on a meego-harmattan device?

[Odd_gunnic]

Interested to see browser performance!

[pycage]

Lately i've been seeing more and more people saying the first nokia device will be a meego-harmattan hybrid as oppsed to meego 1.1, can anyone explain to me the true difference of these devices, and will we be able to run all meego apps on a meego-harmattan device?

What you know as MeeGo from screenshots and videos is the reference implementation. Manufacturers can use this, make it prettier with their own themes, or completely build another UX on top (like WeTab and most likely also Nokia do).
The N900 successor will run Harmattan which is actually Maemo6, but renamed to MeeGo.
All these platforms and the N900 have in common that they are equipped with the Qt framework. So developers only have to target Qt to be (source-code) compatible with all of these devices / OS. The application will still have to be compiled for each platform (maybe the N900 will be able to run Harmattan apps directly, we'll see).

[oskarmat]

i dont know about you guys but these videos are making me miss maemo, even though i still have it on my phone.... i dont know if this is what meego is gonna look like but it kinda reminds me of android in certain aspects and i really dont like that.

give me maemo anyday over any other OS around.

maemo sucks ***. I can't wait till meego gets out so I can get rid of this crap.

[Reffyyyy]

maemo sucks ***. I can't wait till meego gets out so I can get rid of this crap.

I fail to see why you bought the phone.

[Venemo]

I fail to see why you bought the phone.

I bet he didn't. He's just one of the trolls who come here "for the lulz".

[joshua.maverick]

I fail to see why you bought the phone.

The advertising made it seem like it was a solid os. They lied.

[Reffyyyy]

The advertising made it seem like it was a solid os. They lied.

I really didn't see much advertising. Advertising is irrelevant anyway. I wouldn't buy the phone based on what Nokia say, I base it on a few hours of research.

[fraad]

any body got meego on there n900 yet been trying to get it but cant
seen video on youtube but its in cantonesse been trying to do it for days lol i got nitdroid working ok but the comands thay give you for meego i just cant do on n900

[wmarone]

The advertising made it seem like it was a solid os. They lied.

It is a solid OS. If it wasn't, I'd expect the thing to be rebooting randomly all the time and unable to so much as make a phonecall.

If you want to see a mobile OS that isn't solid, go look at OpenMoko.

[geohsia]

I hate seeing stuff that doesn't meet UI guidelines... painful. Show me the photoshop of what it's going to look like and tell me when its going to be released. I don't really need to see the in-between stages.

[maxximuscool]

The advertising made it seem like it was a solid os. They lied.

Maemo 5 is also advertised as a solid OS but after 2months of released into the wilderness, it isn't that solid after all.

So will MeeGo be solidified by the time it release? Well we'll have to wait to see :)

Who will be the first adopter here? Not me, how many dude you know roll like this? Not many..If any..I don't know any body (SCRIBE) lol

[Coldfuzed]

Honestly for me, the thing I want them to fix / have working properly in MeeGo is the key features that other phones provide, such as picture text messaging.

I think its ridiculous how they give us such gorgeous hardware, and just lack the ability to update the software to even at least minimal standards.

I think they need to get the basics down, and just release an update (whether it be MeeGo or another Maemo) with all the basic components the N900 is missing, and then take it from there.

If they do that, I feel that the community itself will cut Nokia a little bit of slack (which at this point in time they do NOT deserve).

[Bratag]

Maemo 5 is also advertised as a solid OS but after 2months of released into the wilderness, it isn't that solid after all.

So will MeeGo be solidified by the time it release? Well we'll have to wait to see :)

Who will be the first adopter here? Not me, how many dude you know roll like this? Not many..If any..I don't know any body (SCRIBE) lol

I am really amazed when people say maemo isnt solid. My phone never reboots randomly (WinMo) or hangs (Android). It does what I ask it.

If you mean it lacks some features you wanted then , ok yes perhaps I will grant you that.

But as far as being solid. Mine is a rock.

[cocegas]

I agree thet maemo 5 is solid. Very stable. The problem is the lack of update to fix bugs and support from devs to make apps and games.

[Bratag]

I agree thet maemo 5 is solid. Very stable. The problem is the lack of update to fix bugs and support from devs to make apps and games.

Phone has been out < 1yr and we have seen 2 major bugfix releases. As for apps the N900 has already surpassed the previous OS release in app numbers.

[joshua.maverick]

It is a solid OS. If it wasn't, I'd expect the thing to be rebooting randomly all the time and unable to so much as make a phonecall.

If you want to see a mobile OS that isn't solid, go look at OpenMoko.

Nope, its ugly, dated and sluggish. Nitdroid runs smoother. lol

[wmarone]

Nope, its ugly
Opinion

dated
Opinion

and sluggish.
While I won't say it isn't without its "moments" I will say that it is not sluggish in the sense of being unable to keep up with my interaction. Mostly, crap web pages cause most of the problems.

Nitdroid runs smoother. lol
NITDroid is also wholly incomplete, and exists under the constraints of Android.

[joshua.maverick]

Nope, it's incredibly ugly, the ui is terrible and feels very 90s, not up to current design trends in any way shape or form. Not an opinion, it's a fact. It is sluggish, transitions hang, opening sms takes longer than it should. It's just a sh * t os. bottom line Nokia f * ck ed up.

[Bratag]

Nope, it's incredibly ugly, the ui is terrible and feels very 90s, not up to current design trends in any way shape or form. Not an opinion, it's a fact. It is sluggish, transitions hang, opening sms takes longer than it should. It's just a sh * t os. bottom line Nokia f * ck ed up.

And that is your opinion. One which I imagine the majority of users do not share and will choose - like most of your posts - to ignore.

[Clubberlang]

Nope, it's incredibly ugly, the ui is terrible and feels very 90s, not up to current design trends in any way shape or form. Not an opinion, it's a fact. It is sluggish, transitions hang, opening sms takes longer than it should. It's just a sh * t os. bottom line Nokia f * ck ed up.

And it lacks vsync. That means zero smooth scrolling and ugly image tearing...but hey who would expect vsync in a mobile pc?

[Bratag]

And it lacks vsync. That means zero smooth scrolling and ugly image tearing...but hey who would expect vsync in a mobile pc?

To Quote yourself

GPU needs a new driver and the driver is only coming to Meego, not Maemo.

So I fail to see how this announcement is a bad thing?

[slender]

Nope, it's incredibly ugly, the ui is terrible and feels very 90s, not up to current design trends in any way shape or form. Not an opinion, it's a fact. It is sluggish, transitions hang, opening sms takes longer than it should. It's just a sh * t os. bottom line Nokia f * ck ed up.
90s? Next thing you might say is that it´s light years behind the leaders etc. I agree that there is some problems with animations and speed could be better in some places but WTF seriously? Those are IMO the last things to fix and are minor grievances currently. Look up bugzilla and find REAL bugs that block using some applications or features!

Only fact what we now here have is that you have made yourself clown. Congratulations.

[Lullen]

The funny thing is that for me the original pr was faster then 1.2 and with less bugs :)

[msa]

partially looks just as slow and sluggish as maemo. i hope this gets improved.

sometimes i wish apple helped nokia with maemo/meego-ui...

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oh god, what did i say? haters in 3...2...1.... :D

[Raubtier]

The funny thing is that for me the original pr was faster then 1.2 and with less bugs :)

what a ridiculous statement..

and to the guy that claimed that maemo was unstable: didnt have a single reboot...zero...nada...

[HangLoose]

lol You fanboys make me laugh. the n900 is a piece of s h it, terrible os, good hardware components, but just garbage. I wish i didn't buy it, and I wish there were more idiots out there to buy it off of me.

So let me get this straight, everyone that does not agree with your opinion is either an idiot or fanboy.

Wow, that is the most grown up and intelligent statement I saw a total stranger type on the internets. (Nah, kidding... I saw worse.)

It is funny that you still hang around in the middle of the idiots and fanboys. I think you should go out and meet real people that actually agree with you, or is that too difficult since you call everyone names if they dont like the same chocolate as you?

Seriously, I just wish that less people like you would be out there. You can do yourself (and us too!) a favor, you either get the freak out of here dude or just learn how to talk some sense.

A grown up man getting lectured about behavior. Pathetic.

[daperl]

I wish there were more idiots out there to buy it off of me.

You had your n900 priced way over market value. Blame who and whatever you want, but you didn't know what you were doing when you bought the device, and you don't know what you're doing trying to sell it.

Stop being a sore loser and move on.

[dtergens]

Is this a game "looking for the intruder" ?

because I think that I found him... :D

[tissot]

sometimes i wish apple helped nokia with maemo/meego-ui...

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oh god, what did i say? haters in 3...2...1.... :D

/¤)"/?!%"#% :D
To be fair we haven't yet seen Nokia's MeeGo-Harmattan.

[tissot]

lol Shut up.

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb95/tissotti/yo_dawg-230x300.jpg

[eMiL]

Good trolling joshua.maverick, good trolling!

[dtergens]

Nice overview :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsTw6t2Rwgk&feature=player_embedded#!

[Viipottaja]

I am hearing the new Nokia Meego UI is starting to be shown to more people within Nokia.. was a super-secret small team effort until now, apparently. :)

[HellFlyer]

why is it so slow? I thought hardware acceleration was ready for N900 ?

[JayBEE]

why is it so slow? I thought hardware acceleration was ready for N900 ?

*palmface*