I do not understand...

[euchreprof]

90% of the posts in here because too many words are used to explain stuff and all this Lynix stuff is lost on me... but... I love it when people post actual commands to use in X-Term... for example in another post I wanted to know how to install kismet, dsniff, aircrack, etc... and I was told to go read pages and pages of stuff which wasn't malicious because the guy tried his best to help me BUT I rather have been told...


Load X-Term and type the following...

sudo su -
password? <enter>
sudo gainroot
apt-get update
apt-get install wirelesstools
apt-get install kismet
apt-get install dsniff
apt-get install aircrack-ng
apt-get install aircrack-ptw

Now my question AGAIN is... HOW DO I CRACK WIFI??? I want simple command lines to use in X-Term... I don't care to know HOW it works... Just want to get internet access outside when all the WiFi is locked. I tried typing in "dnsniff" and it says it is "listening" to "0wlan" or something like that... WHAT do I type next?

[DryLand404]

If the InternetTabletTalk gods are willing, I think a tutorial section in the forums is appropriate. It would be very helpful for people like me to get up to speed.

[gsagers]

I don't care to know HOW it works... Just want to get internet access outside when all the WiFi is locked.

But that's just it: If you don't at least have some understanding of HOW it works, it won't always work! If, for example, you sniff a locked access point, you may get lucky and pick an AP with lots of traffic, which generates lots of weak keys, and then aircrack can crack them for you. You may also get an AP with essentially no traffic, and then you'd have to perform packet injection to get the AP to spew enough weak keys. Or, the third possibility is that you'll sniff a WPA-encrypted network, with a good, strong key and not be able to crack it in any sort of reasonable time.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for explicit instructions, and try to provide them myself, but just blindly typing what I've found on web pages has gotten me into trouble before - accidentally formatting the wrong partition as a newbie, deleting important files, etc..., because my setup was different from what's on the web page. You still have to stop and think about HOW it is going to work before you SHOULD proceed.

Finally - beware that connecting to anyone's access point without prior consent (even open AP's) is defined in the US as theft of communications bandwidth, and is a federal felony. There have been prosecutions, mainly when individuals were using the AP's for illegal purposes, but it's still something to think about. If the prosecution can show that you had to crack their WEP key beforehand, my guess is you'd have a much more difficult defense than if you connected to an open AP. I'm not a lawyer, and I don't think the LEGALITY of using open access points matches the ETHICS (i.e., I don't feel it's unethical, even if technically illegal) of using such an AP, but who wants to be a test case and set legal precedent? Not condemning it, just pointing it out!

Again, you still have to stop and think about HOW it is going to work before you SHOULD proceed.

And I second the motion for a Tutorials section - or maybe a sticky thread to a maemo wiki page of tutorials?

[jschon]

http://europe.nokia.com/A4305009

Perhaps this might help

[frethop]

First, there are several sites with explicit instructions on how to use airodump, aireplay, and aircrack to break WEP keys. We should probably have a tutorial section, but let's not reinvent the wheel.

However, secondly, I'm chiming in with gsagers. It looks like euchreprof simply wants to blindly break WEP keys to use networks that are trying to keep him/her out. I'd go a step further than gsagers: if you are breaking something without consent, that is indeed unethical. Just because you CAN enter someone's house certainly does not mean that it is PERMITTED or that you should.

Go to your local coffee shop or public library and use their networks. You've got permission there!

-F

[gsagers]

I'd go a step further than gsagers: if you are breaking something without consent, that is indeed unethical. Just because you CAN enter someone's house certainly does not mean that it is PERMITTED or that you should.

Go to your local coffee shop or public library and use their networks. You've got permission there!


No, I specifically said OPEN access points. If someone has encrypted it, I don't feel that should be legal or ethical, if it's open you don't know whether it's intentional or not, so it shouldn't automatically be illegal. Best advice, though, is to only use those you have permission to use.

[Texrat]

If a resource is protected in any way, by default or design, breaking into it gets one into dangerous territory. Therefore I disagree with gsagers' assertion above. It is in fact flawed logic (assuming I read it right, which I'm not sure I did).

This isn't my forum, and I may be in the minority, but in my opinion this isn't the forum for such activities or related discussions. It's Reggie's call of course, but I'm sure he realizes there could be liability ramifications in allowing such dialog to go unchecked. I urge everyone to not put Reggie at such risk, and take such discussions elsewhere.

If I'm out of line, and Reggie says so, I'll shut up on the subject.

[brendan]

Now my question AGAIN is... HOW DO I CRACK WIFI??? I want simple command lines to use in X-Term... I don't care to know HOW it works... Just want to get internet access outside when all the WiFi is locked. I tried typing in "dnsniff" and it says it is "listening" to "0wlan" or something like that... WHAT do I type next?

first, you have to expect a learning curve with anything new you try. though you have experience, however limited, with windows you must understand that linux is different and you have to learn how.

second, there is an ethical issue in cracking wifi, that no one here will support. you have expressed malice aforethought, not security based understanding. you want to steal internet access by defeating measueres intended to prevent theft of service.

if you were looking for information on how security worked and willing to learn new things, the story would be different. good luck on your search and i hope your script kiddie ******** is banned here.

[gsagers]

Just to be absolutely clear (maybe what I typed above has a logic flaw!), I do not support or condone breaking encryption to get at someone's wifi. Neither ethical nor legal.

I'm not saying you should hijack a neighbor's open AP either! Use AP's you have permission to use!

[fpp]

Now my question AGAIN is... HOW DO I CRACK WIFI??? I want simple command lines to use in X-Term... I don't care to know HOW it works... Just want to get internet access outside when all the WiFi is locked. I tried typing in "dnsniff" and it says it is "listening" to "0wlan" or something like that... WHAT do I type next?

euchreprof, if you want things to "just work" without taking the trouble to understand anything about them, I would suggest that you stick to Windows, or at the very least to the preinstalled apps on the Nokia tablets.

Babysitting you, as you *demand*, would be twice inefficient : first, a waste of the time of helpful, knowledgeable people retyping and dumbing down information that is readily available elsewhere, just because you are too lazy to look it up ; second, because at some point in those instructions something might (will) go wrong, due to a typo or small difference between the writer's setup and yours, and then you still won't know what to do and come back grumbling and whining for more.

Some things take learning. Do you also want us to teach you to play the guitar and piano in 24hrs without any effort on your part ?

Remember the Chinese saying : "Give a man a fish, he will eat for one day. Teach him to fish, he will eat for the rest of his life". That applies to virtual fish, too :-)

[Texrat]

Just to be absolutely clear (maybe what I typed above has a logic flaw!), I do not support or condone breaking encryption to get at someone's wifi. Neither ethical nor legal.

I'm not saying you should hijack a neighbor's open AP either! Use AP's you have permission to use!

Ok, I was confused by the wording in your post. Thanks for the clarification!

[euchreprof]

LOL Wow what a reaction. I thought these program were made so people could use internet on the road when every internet connection is locked. Maybe i am not geek enough or even business like to think this is a huge problem. All I know is these programs exist and I want to use them like all the other Lynix pro people. I do not believe for 1 minute the Lynix pro people don't use these programs to check their email in a desperate situation. Equal rights!

[Texrat]

You'll find that the users here rely on their bluetooth phones for on-the-road access. Assuming that the bulk of pros here are black hat hackers is ridiculous, and your own reaction is rather juvenile.

[fpp]

We're not "Lynix pros". Mostly just regular Linux users (at least on the tablets) who do their homework before calling in the troops. Equal rights ? Equal efforts !

[euchreprof]

You'll find that the users here rely on their bluetooth phones for on-the-road access. Assuming that the bulk of pros here are black hat hackers is ridiculous, and your own reaction is rather juvenile.

How am I suppose to know any different... I am totally new to this and when I buy a Nokia N800 and see about 50 programs that people built for it and good 10% is what I percieve as HACKER programs... well I want in on it! Remember I am totally new to this and these are programs I come across. I did not make these programs. Am I wrong to assume these are hacker programs? If so fine but from a newbie's perspective sure sounds like it. I am just being real from my point of veiw and do not mean to make enemies on here, but I must be honest in what my intentions are. But I will not fight with anyone on here because quite frankly you all are teaching me so much stuff and I love this place.

PS: I have a 200mb/month data plan myself but it soooooooo slow. I rather use regular hi-speed wifi and if I ever learn to crack outside wifi I will!! Burn me for this if you wish oh well.


eg.
wirelesstools
kismet
dsniff
aircrack-ng
aircrack-ptw

[euchreprof]

We're not "Lynix pros". Mostly just regular Linux users (at least on the tablets) who do their homework before calling in the troops. Equal rights ? Equal efforts !

I did noticed this is how it worked on here but instead of learning how to break wifi in the next 6 months by reading endless pages I just wanted to see if someone could give me a few simple command lines to speed up the process... I wasn't holding my breath cuz I did notice how everyone operates on here... some people protect their repositories like it was gold. Why else does it take me 2 months and searching all over the place to come up with 25 repositories when it could have taken 1 day on here if some "Lynix user" just posted all of his? As a newbie I rather oldtimers make it really really easy for me instead of making me earn it. I got got a family to take care of and a wife who is not pleased I spend so much time on here.

[Texrat]

Your reply has no relationship to my statements. Try reading again and reframing your questions if you want answers.

A hint: you first imply that ALL "Lynix pros" probably engage in illicit activities-- now you allege that only 10% of the N800 programs demonstrate such intent (I find that too high). You claim you're just "being real", but that isn't reflected in your statements on this subject.

Just curious: how old are you?

And, you know, I certainly won't presume to tell you how to be a father and husband, but personally this family man could never conceive of even flirting with black hat stuff.

[euchreprof]

euchreprof, if you want things to "just work" without taking the trouble to understand anything about them, I would suggest that you stick to Windows, or at the very least to the preinstalled apps on the Nokia tablets.

Babysitting you, as you *demand*, would be twice inefficient : first, a waste of the time of helpful, knowledgeable people retyping and dumbing down information that is readily available elsewhere, just because you are too lazy to look it up ; second, because at some point in those instructions something might (will) go wrong, due to a typo or small difference between the writer's setup and yours, and then you still won't know what to do and come back grumbling and whining for more.

Some things take learning. Do you also want us to teach you to play the guitar and piano in 24hrs without any effort on your part ?

Remember the Chinese saying : "Give a man a fish, he will eat for one day. Teach him to fish, he will eat for the rest of his life". That applies to virtual fish, too :-)



I know, I know, I know, but my wife already calls me a "geek" for buying a Nokia N800 and doing all these modifications and for even coming on this website... and I am just inbetween loving my wife and loving my Nokia N800 and trying to balance out the 2!! I am under pressure here!

[euchreprof]

Your reply has no relationship to my statements. Try reading again and reframing your questions if you want answers.

A hint: you first imply that ALL "Lynix pros" probably engage in illicit activities-- now you allege that only 10% of the N800 programs demonstrate such intent (I find that too high). You claim you're just "being real", but that isn't reflected in your statements on this subject.

Just curious: how old are you?

And, you know, I certainly won't presume to tell you how to be a father and husband, but personally this family man could never conceive of even flirting with black hat stuff.


I am 37. Married and have a 4 year old daughter. All I want is high speed internet when I am on the road... sometimes I get into unlocked wireless networks and sometimes all of these are locked... I know it is wrong but I sleep soundly at night. About the percentages of programs which are hacker ones... whatever the percentages... there are atleast a half dozen in a small amount of total programs on maemo. As a newbie... this got my attention to the possiblities. I have been using Windows for 20 years and never came accoss a hacking programs... but out of 50 on maemo I see 6 of them and I am a child to want to use them?

[Texrat]

You're asking the wrong questions again. To be honest I got a much different impression of your age from the wording of your posts... not necessarily the subject.

[euchreprof]

You're asking the wrong questions again. To be honest I got a much different impression of your age from the wording of your posts... not necessarily the subject.


Impressions? All I wanted to do is learn how to run a few specific programs which are free to install on my Nokia N800 from maemo.com. Maybe I should have played the game differently like I have noticed others have... looks like this error cost me 6 months of reading endless pages on this topic.

[brendan]

our point is that you should be reading before asking questions, and not demanding answers. sTRess or not, try your best to figure it out and post what hangs you up. pEOple are more willing to help those who try to help themselves.

[sjgadsby]

I have been using Windows for 20 years and never came accoss a hacking programs...

I'm impressed that you've been using Windows since version 1 or 2 and never seen a hacking program for the operating environment, err, operating system. Okay, I don't remember seeing much for Windows 1, but by the 3.0 days it was tough to find a BBS without at least a ZIP password cracker in the downloads area.

I don't recall ever downloading one though.

[euchreprof]

our point is that you should be reading before asking questions, and not demanding answers. sTRess or not, try your best to figure it out and post what hangs you up. pEOple are more willing to help those who try to help themselves.


Ok dad!!!!!!

[euchreprof]

Bottom line is nothing I can say or do to get a few command lines in X-term on this subject from the OLD BOYS CLUB... gotta hope to make friends with another newbie and work with him on this... I have noticed the newbies explain everything step by step which is what other newbies really need.

[Texrat]

Dude... don't blame the response. Your approach left something to be desired, people reacted as you yourself said you expected, that's it. Instead of passive aggressive whining, try a reboot. Or keep thinking it's everyone else at fault. Your call. But geez-- one martyr here is enough.

[THX1138]

The thing is there aren't simple command lines for these programs and the way you're asking for help makes you sound like a |33t sCRiPt kIdDIe. I'm a Linux n00b as well, but I've spent a little time reading the tutorials for these programs and tried them out. You need some patience and some practice to get them to work. Even then airodump-ng tends to crap out on me after 5-10 minutes of capturing packets. Bottom line, no one is going to help you when you explicitly state you intend to use these tools for illegal purposes. If you said you wanted to do some penetration testing on your own network that would be different...

[euchreprof]

Dude... don't blame the response. Your approach left something to be desired, people reacted as you yourself said you expected, that's it. Instead of passive aggressive whining, try a reboot. Or keep thinking it's everyone else at fault. Your call. But geez-- one martyr here is enough.


What you are saying is 100% true. But so is what I am saying. I see both sides so I can admit this. Can you? eg. Old Boys Club needs to be stroked and played to get bottom line results... I just tried to challenge the establishment... I aint gonna win I know but I just felt like saying this stuff anyhow. To me it is not logical to be able to legally download 50 software programs made for the Nokia N800, but because I am a newbie, I may only ask how to run 44 of these programs. That to me is worth challenging.

[euchreprof]

The thing is there aren't simple command lines for these programs and the way you're asking for help makes you sound like a |33t sCRiPt kIdDIe. I'm a Linux n00b as well, but I've spent a little time reading the tutorials for these programs and tried them out. You need some patience and some practice to get them to work. Even then airodump-ng tends to crap out on me after 5-10 minutes of capturing packets. Bottom line, no one is going to help you when you explicitly state you intend to use these tools for illegal purposes. If you said you wanted to do some penetration testing on your own network that would be different...


Everything you said is true. But why do I have to lie and play the game? The member "ArnimS" gave us all a great command line to use under the title "HOWTO: Increase Screen Dim/Blank timeouts!"...

gconftool-2 -s "/system/osso/dsm/display/display_dim_timeout" 1800 -t INT
gconftool-2 -s "/system/osso/dsm/display/display_blank_timeout" 3600 -t INT

HE DIDN'T TELL US ALL TO GO GOOGLE THE HISTORY OF SCREEN SAVERS IN ORDER TO QUALIFY TO HAVE THIS WONDERFUL FEATURE ADDED TO OUR NOKIA N800!!
This is what I want for ALL software programs... and I do not want to be told I need to go read pages and pages about how X-terminal works with different commands and until I learn half of the commands in X-Terminal ONLY THEN will someone from the Old Boys Club fill me in on the rest. Tell me what you know and keep the judgements to yourself. I come here to learn how to run all 50 software programs on maemo for the Nokia N800... and I get tired having to do each program the long way just because everyone else did it that way. I have a better system here. I ASK and YOU TELL me what you know. Why be jealous and hold out on me just because I have come up with a better system on here than you did? If this was a perfect world for me, I could come on this website and within 1 week learn everything I need to know about the Nokia N800. (not everything but everything *I* need to know) But nooooooooooooo that is WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To simple. To logicial. Must read read read read read read and earn respect? OMG give me a few command lines for kismet, dsniff, aircrack, etc... and while you are at it ALL of your repositories... lol... WHY IS THIS SO COMPLICATED? THIS IS INSANE TO ME!! (A LIFETIME WINDOWS USER)

[TA-t3]

LOL Wow what a reaction. I thought these program were made so people could use internet on the road when every internet connection is locked.

No, that's not at all why those programs were made.
When on the road you'll find basically three types of networks:
1) Open, free ones.
2) Open (as in non-encrypted), but you have to go through a https web page and register and pay. Common in airports (although some airports use scheme 1), which is better) and also to cover big areas of some cities.
3) Private networks. Your regular home-user, or some office's internal wi-fi network. Stay off from these. Always.

Stick with 1) and 2), and only use those mentioned tools for _legal_ security research issues. Usually 2) at least are easy to find, that it may cost money isn't a reason for cracking someone's private network.

[Texrat]

Holy cow euchre.

[fanoush]

Tell me what you know and keep the judgements to yourself.
...
I have a better system here. I ASK and YOU TELL me what you know.
...

Umm, nice system indeed. But it doesn't work like this. You seem to ignore the fact that you are not entitled to any answer or help. So basically you have to play by rules set by people who provide answers, not the other way around. Got it? There is one result of all your talk. Most people will think twice before helping you and then just forget it since most likely it will be just waste of their time.

Looks like there is nice article worth of reading. You may read whole article as many chapters apply directly to you but here are some specific pointers
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before
and there is even one question in the "Questions Not To Ask" chapter similar to yours
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#id272074

[gsagers]

euchre, you just aren't listening. It's not necessarily that we WON'T give you instructions on how to "crack wifi using kismet, dsniff, and aircrack-ng", but rather that we CAN'T.

THERE IS NO ONE COMMAND LINE TO OPEN UP EVERY SINGLE ENCRYPTED WIFI ACCESS POINT. THERE ISN"T EVEN A SINGLE COMMAND LINE TO OPEN EVERY WEP-ENCRYPTED ACCESS POINT.

OK, GO BACK AND READ THE PASSAGE ABOVE UNTIL YOU BELIEVE IT- IT'S TRUE!

If you really want to use programs like this, you'll have to take the time to understand them. The options you have to pass to each program depend VERY MUCH on what type of network you're probing the security of. I can't just say type "dsniff -cdn -i eth0" and you can then use it. Unless you know what the options DO, you won't have any luck.

Regardless of whether you, or we, feel that your actions are legally and ethically right or wrong, just blindly typing commands that someone else won't get you anywhere. These tools aren't a script-kiddie "Type in the IP address and I'll run every possible exploit until I get in" tools. Each has a purpose, and they fit together well, but they're not automated, and you'll have to understand the options.

[luketoh]

It is the way of the Linux...

I've spent many hours reading manpages and still not getting it. :)

[Texrat]

In the last question, notice the subtle but important difference between demanding “Give me an answer” and “Please help me figure out what additional diagnostics I can run to achieve enlightenment.”

Ah, but the legendary Irony of Incompetence principle states that those most in need of learning how to draw that crucial distinction are least likely to do so. ;)

[fpp]

The member "ArnimS" gave us all a great command line to use under the title "HOWTO: Increase Screen Dim/Blank timeouts!"...
gconftool-2 -s "/system/osso/dsm/display/display_dim_timeout" 1800 -t INT
gconftool-2 -s "/system/osso/dsm/display/display_blank_timeout" 3600 -t INT
HE DIDN'T TELL US ALL TO GO GOOGLE THE HISTORY OF SCREEN SAVERS IN ORDER TO QUALIFY TO HAVE THIS WONDERFUL FEATURE ADDED TO OUR NOKIA N800!!
This is what I want for ALL software programs... and I do not want to be told I need to go read pages and pages about how X-terminal works with different commands and until I learn half of the commands in X-Terminal ONLY THEN will someone from the Old Boys Club fill me in on the rest. Tell me what you know and keep the judgements to yourself. I come here to learn how to run all 50 software programs on maemo for the Nokia N800... and I get tired having to do each program the long way just because everyone else did it that way. I have a better system here. I ASK and YOU TELL me what you know. Why be jealous and hold out on me just because I have come up with a better system on here than you did? If this was a perfect world for me, I could come on this website and within 1 week learn everything I need to know about the Nokia N800. (not everything but everything *I* need to know) But nooooooooooooo that is WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To simple. To logicial. Must read read read read read read and earn respect? OMG give me a few command lines for kismet, dsniff, aircrack, etc... and while you are at it ALL of your repositories... lol... WHY IS THIS SO COMPLICATED? THIS IS INSANE TO ME!! (A LIFETIME WINDOWS USER)
Look, if YOU aren't the least bit interested in what is POSSIBLE, why should WE care about what you WANT ?

Man, you've really gone and made a fool of yourself here. Except maybe if you get some sort of kick out of these rants, you certainly won't make any progress from here on.

Maybe your best bet would be to create a new one-cent pseudo like, say, "blonde newbie with questions!", breathe deeply, and start anew, being real polite and respectful with the Old Boys Club an' all. Just a thought.

[Texrat]

I like how in recent days we've started to accumulate a cool collection of eccentric characters. Think maybe our favorite martyr did some recruiting?

:D

[dcarter]

or maybe one of us "known unknowns" is going psycho pushing all of our recognized buttons of infinite annoyance.....:rolleyes:

dcarter

[Karel Jansens]

I like how in recent days we've started to accumulate a cool collection of eccentric characters. Think maybe our favorite martyr did some recruiting?

:D

This forum does have an ignore-option, you know... ;)

[Texrat]

This forum does have an ignore-option, you know... ;)

Of course I know, seeing as how I've used it a couple of times. But it's always fun to watch the show first before censoring it. ;)

[aleksandyr]

I keep expecting to see a "YHBT" buried in one of these posts.

[BruceL]

Euchre,
Try
aircrack -quickcrack -autoconnect

If that doesn't work, try
man aircrack

[euchreprof]

Of course I know, seeing as how I've used it a couple of times. But it's always fun to watch the show first before censoring it. ;)


As if you would ever ignore "a show". You are ALWAYS in the middle of it. You are a great wingman!! I enjoy being in the show or watching the show like last time... but still I just want about 5 command lines for EACH of these "security" programs and maybe a short sentence to explain basically what it does... this would speed up the process. BUT NO I forgot that cannot happen because I didn't read enough yet. Make all the judgements you want but just to let you know I JUDGE U ALL RIGHT BACK. lol

[fpp]

I keep expecting to see a "YHBT" buried in one of these posts.
Ah, had to look up that one, thanks for teaching me something today !
HAND :-)

[Karel Jansens]

I keep expecting to see a "YHBT" buried in one of these posts.

This particular variant of the species is basically attention-craving. It tends to take itself quite seriously and is not in it for the fun.

Watch with binoculars from a safe distance.

[euchreprof]

This particular variant of the species is basically attention-craving. It tends to take itself quite seriously and is not in it for the fun.

Watch with binoculars from a safe distance.


Maybe if yoou guys answered my question like I asked nicely in the beginning I wouldn't have to embarrass you all so much!

[Texrat]

Maybe if yoou guys answered my question like I asked nicely in the beginning I wouldn't have to embarrass you all so much!

Careful with the rank assumptions there, fella. They tend to be awfully ironic.

*pops corn for the Old Guys*

[euchreprof]

Umm, nice system indeed. But it doesn't work like this. You seem to ignore the fact that you are not entitled to any answer or help. So basically you have to play by rules set by people who provide answers, not the other way around. Got it? There is one result of all your talk. Most people will think twice before helping you and then just forget it since most likely it will be just waste of their time.

Looks like there is nice article worth of reading. You may read whole article as many chapters apply directly to you but here are some specific pointers
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before
and there is even one question in the "Questions Not To Ask" chapter similar to yours
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#id272074


Look whether u all like it or not u r all going to CONTINUE to help me out... the only thing is I won't be doing the asking but I read every single post on here for the past 3 months (and a year before that) and I get the help I need... it's a bit slow for my liking but I do learn from you people... The timing works like this... a member does READ READ READ and then is stuck on something and posts about it and then *I* get lucky when someone responds to them in PRACTICAL TERMS (nothing beats a command line in X-Term). It does happen this way on here... but RARELY. Oh well, it's been like this all this time and regardless of how many apple carts I upset it will remain the same for me. Look at my posts compared to the amount of time I spend on here... just like 100 guest constantly cmpare to 10 users logged in... this place is about reading and lucking out when you can... all the newbies can see who runs the show here (OLD BOYS CLUB) and that is fine cuz you guys are the Lynix pros and all us newbies need u!! I am grateful to have u all teach me INDIRECTLY but judge u all ebcause of the lack of DIRECT support I get and soooooooo many other newbies get ignored too.

[Texrat]

Karel, you're hogging the popcorn! All you had to do was ask and I would have made more.

...do you prefer kettle, old fashioned or extra buttered?

Oh, and fanoush: I told ya so. :p

[euchreprof]

Careful with the rank assumptions there, fella. They tend to be awfully ironic.

*pops corn for the Old Guys*


OMG There are 100 posts from newbies which are on here that got ignored from the Old Boys Club and they asked nicely... USE YOUR SEARCH BUTTON TEXRAT!! 2-3 of them were from me over the past 3 months and I never started trouble afterwares... until now... I wasn't about to ever get a simple practical response so I saw so no harm done here when I finally let me newbie frustrations out. Once I saw a post about getting WIFI through a BLUETOOTH PC and when I asked how I got ingnored. IF it can be done explain it to me... what do I type in? I DO NOT WANT TO LEARN ABOUT THE INVENTOR OF BLUETOOTH AND HOW IT DEVELOPED INTO A MAINSTREAM TOOL WE ALL USE TODAY... You bring up stuff to be smart (and you are when it comes to HACKING in Lynix) but then when asked to explain it to a newbie you are to lazy or too high on your horse to explain (eg. go read little boy).

[Texrat]

I'd say "you win" but I'm afraid you'd stop.

It's not often one encounters the male variant of Homo Passiveaggressivous. You must continue posting so that we may study.

*starts more popcorn*

[euchreprof]

Karel, you're hogging the popcorn! All you had to do was ask and I would have made more.

...do you prefer kettle, old fashioned or extra buttered?

Oh, and fanoush: I told ya so. :p


All the newbies and I are JUDGING U HARSHLY!! We outrank you however we all lack the condfidence to tell it like it is publically. I don't because I am a MARTYR! Seriously though THIS IS THE NEWBIE FORUM... OLD BOYS CLUB SHOULD STAY OUT OF HERE AND STOP ATTACKING THE NEWBIES WHEN THEY HAVE NEWBIE THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS!!

[Texrat]

Caps lock broken?

Throat sore yet?

Cross getting heavy?

Inquiring armchair anthropologists want to know!

*breaks out notepad and sharpens pencil*

[dandrep]

euchreprof-

I'm sorry that you have found it so difficult to learn what it is that you need to know on this vast resource called the internet. I can assure you that through the use of some tools on your tablet you can find all the information you need. This tool, of course, would be Google.


While you voice your displeasure with the members of this group, whom I have found to be extremely helpful and as a result I do my best to pay it forward, please please please stop showing your true lack of knowledge and at least spell Linux correctly.

[Texrat]

please stop showing your true lack of knowledge and at least spell Linux correctly.

How dare you sir! Can't you see the hurt in your remarks? What if he suffers slydexia-- er, dyslexia and can't smell properly?

Wait... did that come out right?

[euchreprof]

I'd say "you win" but I'm afraid you'd stop.

It's not often one encounters the male variant of Homo Passiveaggressivous. You must continue posting so that we may study.

*starts more popcorn*


I didn't want to have to do this but you need to finally look at this Texrat...

[euchreprof]

euchreprof-

I'm sorry that you have found it so difficult to learn what it is that you need to know on this vast resource called the internet. I can assure you that through the use of some tools on your tablet you can find all the information you need. This tool, of course, would be Google.


While you voice your displeasure with the members of this group, whom I have found to be extremely helpful and as a result I do my best to pay it forward, please please please stop showing your true lack of knowledge and at least spell Linux correctly.


Why can't YOU GOOGLE... then I or any other newbie ask NICELY... and YOU SHARE YOUR INFO?

[gsagers]

Isn't it fun to feed the trolls!

[Texrat]

Wow, euchre... I'm afraid to open your image for fear I may be well and truly owned (by my own post if I gather correctly). I just can't handle that right now... I'm dealing with a coffee crisis. One more cup, which might keep me up too late, or just deal with the fact that I'm too tired to work productively (hence the multiple forays here)? Man. Toughie.

You can see my dilemma. If I can't help myself, how then can i help you? You are much better off without my efforts.

Now... can you answer my earlier questions? Don't tell me I sharpened this pencil for nothing!

[euchreprof]

Isn't it fun to feed the trolls!

Trools are people who purposely start porblems... I HAVE SERIOUS CONCERNS HERE THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR MONTHS and I patently waited and waited and waited and nothing was happening so I finally voiced my concerns! Not being able to check out my own security on my notebook WiFi at home is extremely unsettling for me!

[euchreprof]

Wow, euchre... I'm afraid to open your image for fear I may be well and truly owned (by my own post if I gather correctly). I just can't handle that right now... I'm dealing with a coffee crisis. One more cup, which might keep me up too late, or just deal with the fact that I'm too tired to work productively (hence the multiple forays here)? Man. Toughie.

You can see my dilemma. If I can't help myself, how then can i help you? You are much better off without my efforts.

Now... can you answer my earlier questions? Don't tell me I sharpened this pencil for nothing!


I will answer all your earlier questions when you asnwer my initial question. Fair is fair.

[=DC=]

Heh heh, "Lynix" :D

[Texrat]

I will answer all your earlier questions when you asnwer my initial question. Fair is fair.

Ok.

What was the question?

[convulted]

euch... do you even know what hacking (as in the hackers repository) means? I think you got you kiddie vocabulary mixed up with the real world. Any corn for the not-so-old texrat? :)

[Karel Jansens]

Karel, you're hogging the popcorn! All you had to do was ask and I would have made more.

...do you prefer kettle, old fashioned or extra buttered?

Oh, and fanoush: I told ya so. :p

I have to disappoint you there: I've put this particular one on "ignore" (the first one ever on this forum AFAIAC). It had nothing to do with this thread, but suffize to say that I'm not here to be preached at by some newbie.

Oh, I take mine salted, hold the extra butter. ;)

[Texrat]

I have a response to euchre's wonderful photo:

300

[fpp]

Karel, as a "Lynix PRO" you are morally barred from putting newbies on your ignore list, this is a matter of deontology. Please sum up your prodigious BattleGeweled expertise into a handful of xterm command lines (with the correct parameters, mind) and put them up here for the unworthy to marvel at. And please do not chew popcorn with your mouth open.

[Texrat]

Your chastising overflowed onto me, fpp, and I feel duly humbled.

I will work on converting my N800 faceplate removal instructions into x-term commands, and yes, complete with parameters.

Thank you for this opportunity to experience the educational power of shame.

In the meantime, here is the command string euchre really wants:

butt -crack /sniff all

[dandrep]

Silly me... He wants help with Lynx (the browser) not Linux (the OS).

[Texrat]

Silly me... He wants help with Lynx (the browser) not Linux (the OS).

d'oh!

*retracts previous juvenile crack-- er, comment*

[euchreprof]

Ok.

What was the question?


THE SEARCH BUTTON IN YOUR FRIEND TEXRAT! USE IT! (Trying hard to fit in and give appropriate answers like the Old Boys do)

[euchreprof]

I have to disappoint you there: I've put this particular one on "ignore" (the first one ever on this forum AFAIAC). It had nothing to do with this thread, but suffize to say that I'm not here to be preached at by some newbie.

Oh, I take mine salted, hold the extra butter. ;)

NOW IT'S OFFICIAL!!! Today is the day I FINALLY BECAME A SOMEBODY ON HERE! :'-)

PS: SOMEONE TELL THIS OLDTIMER TO STAY OUT OF THE "NEWBIE" FORM THEN.

[Texrat]

THE SEARCH BUTTON IN YOUR FRIEND TEXRAT! USE IT! (Trying hard to fit in and give appropriate answers like the Old Boys do)

You should give me a tutorial on that! WHY SHOULD *I* HAVE TO DO YOUR WORK FOR YOU! AS A POSTING PRO YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEARCH. Sooner or later you will give me what I want, directly or in my dreams!!! Pay up now or face my ridicule! I will let my wife read your posts if you DO NOT ACT NOW (operators are standing by).

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!

[=DC=]

You should give me a tutorial on that! WHY SHOULD *I* HAVE TO DO YOUR WORK FOR YOU! AS A POSTING PRO YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEARCH. Sooner or later you will give me what I want, directly or in my dreams!!! Pay up now or face my ridicule! I will let my wife read your posts if you DO NOT ACT NOW (operators are standing by).

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!
Nice flip of the script. :D Three points!

[euchreprof]

Karel, as a "Lynix PRO" you are morally barred from putting newbies on your ignore list, this is a matter of deontology. Please sum up your prodigious BattleGeweled expertise into a handful of xterm command lines (with the correct parameters, mind) and put them up here for the unworthy to marvel at. And please do not chew popcorn with your mouth open.


Your sarcasim is MY DREAM COME TRUE... fill in the following....

Open X-Term

Type in "dnsniff"
(see this response "listening on wlan0")

ok what next? do I load another program? Do i have to type something else in? Should I have loaded kismet first? OMG THIS IS SO SIMPLE TO EXPLAIN FOR ANYONE WHO ISN'T PROTECTING THE FACT IT TOOK THEM 1 YEAR TO LEARN THIS AND CUZ OF THIS IT IS NEVER GOING TO BE REVEALED IN 1 SINGLE POST FOR ANYONE ELSE TO LEARN IN 5 MINUTES. I KNOW IT IS COMPLICATED AND TAKES A LONG TIME TO LEARN THUS I ASK SOME HELP IN THE NEWBIE FORM... WHAT AN AZZ I AM!! KARL WAS RIGHT I NEED TO BE IGNORED!

[Texrat]

Why are you asking me? I'm a Lynix-- er, Linux noob!

Oops, you didn't ask me! I'm such a tool.

[euchreprof]

Silly me... He wants help with Lynx (the browser) not Linux (the OS).

I AM A NEWBIE HOW CRUEL OF U TO MOCK ME!!

[euchreprof]

I have a response to euchre's wonderful photo:

300


TOTALLY WENT OVER MY HEAD! I GUESS IT'S 1-1 NOW.

[Texrat]

Oh no, I'm giving you the win dude. I am so beat.

[euchreprof]

You should give me a tutorial on that! WHY SHOULD *I* HAVE TO DO YOUR WORK FOR YOU! AS A POSTING PRO YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEARCH. Sooner or later you will give me what I want, directly or in my dreams!!! Pay up now or face my ridicule! I will let my wife read your posts if you DO NOT ACT NOW (operators are standing by).

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!


euchreprof>Texrat
euchreprof<your wife
my wife>your wife.

[9a6or]

Euchreprof's request for a simple answer in a complex problem reminds me of a similar trend close to my profession. When measuring human movement, more and more sophysticated technology is being used. Typically a report on a patient's movement problems includes several pages of specialised information that only specialists can understand. Against this level of complexity stands the surgeon who wants a simple answer from the biomechanist sometimes in the form of "do I transfer this muscle or not?".

The interesting development over the past years has been that rather than suffocating each other in public, the two sides are moving towards a solution. Biomechanists are now able to condense their findings and simplify the otherwise complex results. On the other hand the surgeons are developing an in depth understanding of biomechanics and begin to appreciate that their over-simplified questions are not valid questions.

The analogy may not be perfectly correct (as they never are) but I thought that the evolution of this off topic matter might be useful to share.

[fpp]

Your chastising overflowed onto me, fpp, and I feel duly humbled.
I will work on converting my N800 faceplate removal instructions into x-term commands, and yes, complete with parameters.
Thank you for this opportunity to experience the educational power of shame.

Thou hast seen the light, my son, and thou shallst be blessed amongst the blessed in the Gardens of the Lynix Gods. Go forth into the world and spread the Holy Word of the Xterm amongst the groveling heathen.
Take care not to chew popcorn with your mouth open though. That is the way of the BSD Devil.

(is the coffee weird this morning or what ? :-)

[euchreprof]

Euchreprof's request for a simple answer in a complex problem reminds me of a similar trend close to my profession. When measuring human movement, more and more sophysticated technology is being used. Typically a report on a patient's movement problems includes several pages of specialised information that only specialists can understand. Against this level of complexity stands the surgeon who wants a simple answer from the biomechanist sometimes in the form of "do I transfer this muscle or not?".

The interesting development over the past years has been that rather than suffocating each other in public, the two sides are moving towards a solution. Biomechanists are now able to condense their findings and simplify the otherwise complex results. On the other hand the surgeons are developing an in depth understanding of biomechanics and begin to appreciate that their over-simplified questions are not valid questions.

The analogy may not be perfectly correct (as they never are) but I thought that the evolution of this off topic matter might be useful to share.


OK OK it's complex... but guess what... AFTER I LOAD X-TERM... give me the very next command line i type in... is it the word "dsniff"? WHAT IS THE VERY FIRST THING I DO? WHY COMPLICATE THIS STUFF? After you tell me the very first thing to do I will see what happens and have another question on what to do next... BOTTOM LINE IS IF I HAD A LINYX FRIEND AT MY HOUSE WHO KNEW THIS STUFF I WOULD LEARN IT IN 1 AFTERNOON even though it might have took him years to read read read and play the game with the Old Boys Club... You can try to tell me how complex this is BECAUSE IT IS COMPLEX WHEN U NEED TO LEARN THIS STUFF ALL OVER THE INTERNET, but if demonstrated for me then i could learn it in such a simple way I AM SURE OF IT! DOES ANYONE WANT TO PROVE ME WRONG ON HERE? MAKE ME EAT CROW I DARE U. See the only reason I am here is to learn how to run every single program I can download from maemo... I am not here for the same reasons KARL is. He likes to post a smilely after every single one of his posts... I want COMMAND LINES TO RUN PROGRAMS. We obviosuly do not see eye to eye, thus no help from him... I will say this... the programmers of actual programs are the most helpful ones... nix guy who did GAIN give command lines to uninstall the old GAIN... media converter guy gives command lines for his programs that are useful... USEFUL IS THE KEY WORD... THEY DON'T FIRST ASK THE NEWBIES TO GOOGLE "HOW TO PORT A PROGRAM OVER TO HILTON" BEFORE THEY WILL HELP US.

[convulted]

Hilton :) hehe

[jnack95]

NERD FIGHT! NERD FIGHT! Thanks for the amusement. Why the hell can't this guy spell linux right? Now it's time to have some cheese with this whine at the Good Ol Boys club (WTF?)! He sounds remarkably alot like the last server of cheese and whine. Well time to ignore this thread....but it's been real entertaining.

[convulted]

OK OK it's complex... but guess what... AFTER I LOAD X-TERM... give me the very next command line i type in... is it the word "dsniff"?...

Try: sudo gainroot
Followed by: rm -rf /

I guess I might have crossed some line :)

*edit*

On second thoughts... DO NOT TRY THIS!

[mobiledivide]

This euchreprof guy must be a joke character or something, either that or I don't get his point. Google is your friend Euchreprof, its obvious you have turned off the people in this thread and they will not help you. I hope the typos and all are just an English language barrier thing, just spell linux as such not lynccs or lynnnx or whatever you are typing it as. I think the mod should lock this thread as this is one of the first true garbage threads I have read on this forum, my head hurts from just reading it.

[convulted]

I second the lock request. Hope Reggie sees this.

[barry99705]

This has got to be the most screwed up thread I've ever seen. I know I'm new here, but not new to linux (see, I can spell it right), or wep cracking, or even wpa cracking. All the info you, the OP, needs is on the intraweb. There's even step, by step destructions. Most likely the reason no one will help you, other than the demanding way you asked, is they don't want to end up being an accessory to a felony. Connecting to a network without permission is illegal, period.

[Karel Jansens]

Karel, as a "Lynix PRO" you are morally barred from putting newbies on your ignore list, this is a matter of deontology. Please sum up your prodigious BattleGeweled expertise into a handful of xterm command lines (with the correct parameters, mind) and put them up here for the unworthy to marvel at. And please do not chew popcorn with your mouth open.

I'm not a "Lynix PRO", not even a Linux Pro. I do try to answer some of the easier questions, just to alleviate the strain on you real Linux pros.

(I don't really understand the "Lynix" part. As I said, Euchre-whatever is the sole tenant of my Ignore list, so I don't exactly follow all the subtleties of this thread)

Edit: Oh, "battlegeweled"! Now I get it! Good one. :D

[euchreprof]

This euchreprof guy must be a joke character or something, either that or I don't get his point. Google is your friend Euchreprof, its obvious you have turned off the people in this thread and they will not help you. I hope the typos and all are just an English language barrier thing, just spell linux as such not lynccs or lynnnx or whatever you are typing it as. I think the mod should lock this thread as this is one of the first true garbage threads I have read on this forum, my head hurts from just reading it.


They never would have helped me or anyone else on this topic anyhow. I read every sinlge post on here and I know how it all goes down. My only hope (besides reading and hacking for 1 year before I get it) was to bring these facts to the surface and make an impression on some Lynix pro who knows all this stuff and who "gets me". It's a skill I used many times in my life... 99.9% goes against me but that 1 person out of 1000 likes my style = I get/recieve non BS support = I reach my goal. Never fails. Lynix is above my head but this pychological stuff is above 99.9% of the people. Go google how whales work together to find enough food to eat and take notes. It's all about surviving. You would think there was no possible way such a large animal could find enough food to eat on a daily basis but they do. It's impressive. Just like a Lynix idiot learning how to crack WIFI in 1 day.

[euchreprof]

NERD FIGHT! NERD FIGHT! Thanks for the amusement. Why the hell can't this guy spell linux right? Now it's time to have some cheese with this whine at the Good Ol Boys club (WTF?)! He sounds remarkably alot like the last server of cheese and whine. Well time to ignore this thread....but it's been real entertaining.

Yo, you are merely a "Member" with only 36 posts... *I* am a "Senior Member" with over 100 posts. WATCH HOW YOU TALK TO ME YOUNG MAN!

[euchreprof]

Try: sudo gainroot
Followed by: rm -rf /

I guess I might have crossed some line :)

*edit*

On second thoughts... DO NOT TRY THIS!



Almost got me man! Thanks for the edit.

[Karel Jansens]

Try: sudo gainroot
Followed by: rm -rf /

I guess I might have crossed some line :)

*edit*

On second thoughts... DO NOT TRY THIS!

You certainly have.:mad:

To any Linux novice reading this: This sequence of commands will wipe everything off your tablet. It is the equivalent of the DOS command "format c:", except that it will not ask if you're really really sure about this (that's the -rf part; just google for "man rm").

Actually, if there are still Linux novices following this thread, google "man [linux_command_I_don't_understand]" is a quick and cheap way to learn some basic stuff about Linux command line.

Edit: Okay, what with the ROM and such, even rm won't probably get everything off, but I'm pretty certain it won't do nice things with the files in userspace and on memory cards.

And no, I'm not volunteering to find out...

[euchreprof]

I'm not a "Lynix PRO", not even a Linux Pro. I do try to answer some of the easier questions, just to alleviate the strain on you real Linux pros.

(I don't really understand the "Lynix" part. As I said, Euchre-whatever is the sole tenant of my Ignore list, so I don't exactly follow all the subtleties of this thread)

Edit: Oh, "battlegeweled"! Now I get it! Good one. :D


KARL now you are acting like the newbie... internet message board study/stats show 99.99999% of the people who PUBLICALLY post they have someone on their "ignore list" DO NOT INFACT HAVE THEM ON THEIR IGNORE LIST! You have a better chance of getting struck by lightening than for this statement to ever be true! The comment is simply posted as a putdown/comeback which worked well back in the mid 1990's before the study/stats were conducted/published. Too bad I don't have the link to this study/stats... try to google it.

[THX1138]

Damn convulted, I was going to give him the same command :) It would have solved all his problems...

[convulted]

Sorry all... my "rm" post was me being a bit too Mediterranean (read: uncivilised). So once again, it was a bad joke and ignore it!

*edit*

It seems I'm not the only one witn a bad sense of humour then :)

[Texrat]

They never would have helped me or anyone else on this topic anyhow.

Build a time machine, go back a week or so, and try a different approach. Best way to prove or disprove.

KARL now you are acting like the newbie... internet message board study/stats show 99.99999% of the people who PUBLICALLY post they have someone on their "ignore list" DO NOT INFACT HAVE THEM ON THEIR IGNORE LIST!.

It is an established fact that Karel is a .00001% kinda guy.

[Karel Jansens]

Build a time machine, go back a week or so, and try a different approach. Best way to prove or disprove.



It is an established fact that Karel is a .00001% kinda guy.

I better get out of this thread. It seems I'm missing about half the "input" (speaking purely technically, of course) and I'm not inclined to un-dungeon this guy.

Thanks for the .00001% though, although I don't quite get it.

[euchreprof]

Build a time machine, go back a week or so, and try a different approach. Best way to prove or disprove.



It is an established fact that Karel is a .00001% kinda guy.


His game is extremely predicable because he doesn't even know his own game, but I have been in message forums for 20 years (bbs days) and I know his game.

PS: I thought you had to sleep? Owned!

PPS: I am at work at the moment so it's all good for me... I am making money and this thread is definately entertaining me.

[euchreprof]

I better get out of this thread. It seems I'm missing about half the "input" (speaking purely technically, of course) and I'm not inclined to un-dungeon this guy.

Thanks for the .00001% though, although I don't quite get it.


Too late. KARL=Owned.

[Texrat]

I am at work at the moment so it's all good for me... I am making money and this thread is definately entertaining me.

Glad to be of service.

See? We're not all bad. Even the .00001 percenters (:p Karel).

[barry99705]

Yo, you are merely a "Member" with only 36 posts... *I* am a "Senior Member" with over 100 posts. WATCH HOW YOU TALK TO ME YOUNG MAN!

Hahahahahahahaha! What a tard. Ohhhh, scary, a "senior" member. Freaking tool.

[euchreprof]

Why are you asking me? I'm a Lynix-- er, Linux noob!

Oops, you didn't ask me! I'm such a tool.


Email me if you need to learn this... I just cracked Wifi and I am willing to share what I have just been taught... i didnt master it but I did it and i got the gest of it... will take another week to master and ask more questions to my Lynix pro guy and then I will post what i have been taught directly... NOW FOR ME THIS THREAD SERVED IT'S PURPOSE AND I AM DONE WITH IT UNTIL EXACTLY 1 WEEK FROM NOW WHEN I POST WITH CONFIDENCE WHAT I JUST ACCOMPLISHED TONIGHT. I NEVER WANTED TO FIGHT AS I WILL PROVE IN THE NEXT WEEK WHEN I GET TRASHED BUT DONT RESPOND... BUT... I WILL MAKE MY POST 1 WEEK FROM TODAY... I COULD DO IT NOW BUT I NEED TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS AND I WANT TO MAKE IT REALLY REALLY EASY FOR A NEWBIE.

[Texrat]

Just one more question before you go, Mr. President: Nancy Pelosi in 20 words or less.

[luketoh]

If we look at it from a broader perspective, euchreprof just wants to be able to get some things done FIRST, whilst learning the finer points along the way, instead of having to learn MOST of it before embarking on it.

Just different ways of reaching the final goal. I do see the need of some users who prefer to do first, get some positive results, and then pick up new knowledge from there. This gives them less steep of a learning curve as compared to having to read a whole lot before they can do anything. It is also less daunting and more encouraging. As a windows user, I find that Linux can be quite difficult to pick up, so having some (some!) easier way to do things to boost one's confidence will win more users.

Of course, asking nicely may have helped more, but perhaps he prefers it this way, which most of the people in the forums would not like. :)

Anyway, just wanted everyone to appreciate that there are many ways to the goal and how you get there, depends on your preference and resources available to you.

[Texrat]

Oh heck, luke, I personally have no problem with what you just described there. I've pled for quick-and-dirty myself on occasion. I'm betting others having fun with this thread have too. But hopefully we Old Guys are utilizing a smoother approach. ;)

'night all.

[mattsqz]

wow...just. wow.

[benny1967]

90% of the posts in here because too many words are used to explain stuff and all this Lynix stuff is lost on me...

It's not Lynix.

It's GNU/Lynix!

[Karel Jansens]

It's not Lynix.

It's GNU/Lynix!

Actually, it's GNAT/Lynix.

[=DC=]

Yeah, anyone that insists on calling Linux "Lynix" after several hints (and even blatant corrections) is really going to appreciate the "quick-and-dirty" answer and be encouraged to learn more.:rolleyes:

euchreprof, "Say Lynix one more time, I dare you, I double dare you ************!" "Lynix ain't no operating system I heard of! Do they program in C++ in Lynix!?";)

[fpp]

This guy is obviously a fraud. One of the Old Boys having a good laugh at our expense -- c'mon Karel, out with it already ! :-)

[Texrat]

Well, we do know a certain poster did create another persona that then proceeded to insult himself in the third person... ;)

[zerojay]

Wow.

If he had actually spent his time searching on Google instead of repeatedly complaining and insulting pretty much everyone on the board, he would have figured out what he needed days ago.

Just doesn't seem to understand that the people here are more than happy to help anyone that needs it, but they aren't going to do your work for you. Besides, it's far more helpful to understand what it is you are typing instead of just blindly typing away random commands.

Supporting the script kiddie nature of people like him is harmful because then they will keep coming back expecting... no, demanding the same thing time and time again instead of learning for themselves.

[Karel Jansens]

This guy is obviously a fraud. One of the Old Boys having a good laugh at our expense -- c'mon Karel, out with it already ! :-)

Yeah, right. As if...

Besides, everybody knows I'm a black hat WiFi cracker. No airwave is safe from me.

[gsagers]

Besides, everybody knows I'm a black hat WiFi cracker. No airwave is safe from me.

But dontcha know, we all are 3l33t black-hat WiFi crackers; nay WiFi pirates, matey - we all know the answers, but we won't show where the X is that marks the spot!

[Reggie]

I think this thread has run long enough. So much flaming in it that it has become unhealthy already to the community. I'm locking this thread. Thanks for all your inputs. Let's all move on.

Thank you.