N900 getting Meego in end of october? [Archive] - maemo.org

attila77

09-13-2010, 11:51 AM

I think there is still a lot of misunderstanding about the MeeGo thing. The N900 *HAS* MeeGo support, there are paid developers working on it, you can download public weekly builds, etc. The announcement about no official support was for MeeGo-Harmattan (yes, I believe it was extremely poorly formulated). Therefore, it is not exactly a surprise that at some point, the N900 will get MeeGo 1.1. Whether you want to (or can) use that on a daily basis is a whole different story.

romanianusa

09-13-2010, 11:52 AM

What the heck is Meego anyway. Meego...Ugo....iGO ....wiiGO

johnel

09-13-2010, 12:22 PM

What the heck is Meego anyway. Meego...Ugo....iGO ....wiiGO

Basically it's this. Nokia have been working on maemo for a number of years to the point where it is stable and mature. The smartphone market is very competitive and competition is fierce.

Nokia thought that cracking this market and exploiting it was not hard enough as it is and decided to abandon maemo and joined a new system instead - called MeeGo.

Meego does the same thing as maemo but is more open source and development is open to everyone (one day).

Meego is the best because maemo does not sound cool enough and maemo is really old now.

There is a large collection of software for maemo written by many developers who spend significant amounts of time writing new software with loads of features that make the n900 so interesting to own.

With meego there is a probability that much of the current software will have to be changed to run properly on Meego. Developers hate writing new features and prefer spending their time on re-testing and tweaking their software to run on Meego. Why fix bugs when you can spend time constantly changing your software on an ever-changing platform?

Maemo is based on gtk and Meego is based on QT. Gtk & QT make the software on your phone look pretty and help developers write cool software.

Nokia chose QT because it's the best.

sacal

09-13-2010, 12:24 PM

What the heck is Meego anyway. Meego...Ugo....iGO ....wiiGO

In English "meego" seams like "Me go" or I go.
For some latin languages "meego" is pronounced similar to "amigo" that means friend.
Let's wait to see if going to Meego will be a good decision and if it is really user friendly. :)

elris

09-13-2010, 12:30 PM

After watching that video I had breathe deeply and remember why I still have faith in MeeGo!

Venemo

09-13-2010, 01:05 PM

MeeGo will be a good thing once it will be complete. Judging any software by its pre-release state is just dumb. We should judge it when it's no longer beta and after it matured somewhat.

imperiallight

09-13-2010, 01:07 PM

I seriously doubt it will come by the end of October. You can quote me on that.

agdroubi

09-13-2010, 01:08 PM

eikido

09-13-2010, 01:11 PM

What will be the difference between Nokia N?(X)? with MeeGo in the future and the MeeGo we can install on our N900?

God's Toy

09-13-2010, 01:25 PM

I seriously doubt it will come by the end of October. You can quote me on that.

Done! :D
......

jmangs

09-13-2010, 01:34 PM

The chance of Nokia delivering on any shipping promise is equal to the probability that pig spontaneously grow wings and fly.

Sorry if I'm a pessimist but Nokia's track record for the last 5 years hasn't been great. :cool:

Dave999

09-13-2010, 01:44 PM

So n9 will not have "real" meego? step 1 of 2?

egoshin

09-13-2010, 01:49 PM

What will be the difference between Nokia N?(X)? with MeeGo in the future and the MeeGo we can install on our N900?

Different hardware - different available resources. It is guessed that N? would have more memory, faster CPU etc.

attila77

09-13-2010, 03:18 PM

I think they are paid to do that by nokia to keep n900 active because nokia doesn't have time to support it.

I'm not sure I follow. They work on it because they have no time to support it ?

I seriously doubt it will come by the end of October. You can quote me on that.

Sigh. MeeGo is on a fixed schedule, they will make a release every 6 months, whatever they have at that point is 1.1. The late October builds cannot be late for October.

So n9 will not have "real" meego? step 1 of 2?

No device will have "real" MeeGo coming from the factory. MeeGo is just a basis on top of which the actual products are built, with secret sauces and all.

imperiallight

09-13-2010, 04:53 PM

Sigh. MeeGo is on a fixed schedule, they will make a release every 6 months, whatever they have at that point is 1.1. The late October builds cannot be late for October.

Pretty handy that really.

Whats this then? I don't understand....

1.1.0.0 2010-10-21--2010-10-27 GA, RTW: MeeGo 1.1 Release for Core, Netbooks, Handsets, ... (General availability, release to web)

Is it wrong to assume that its is a self sufficient OS at this stage similar to Maemo on its release and if not why not?

attila77

09-13-2010, 05:22 PM

It's just a formal release. Every six months people try to stabilize the package versions and try to make a fairly complete (=minimally broken :) ) release which is hopefully less prone to cause explosive nosebleed on first contact with non-developers. Just as the terminal-mode 1.0 release. It was a release, it was installable, it was 1.0, but it was not really what the end users want.

Is it wrong to assume that its is a self sufficient OS at this stage similar to Maemo on its release and if not why not?

It is wrong. It will never be similar to Maemo, for better or worse. MeeGo as such doesn't have any 3rd party commercial components which are sort-of expected in a productized release. So Flash, Skype, Ovi Maps, Ovi Store, etc, are NOT part of MeeGo. They will of course be present/shipped in the products BASED on MeeGo, but that is not what this 1.1 release is about.

theonelaw

09-13-2010, 05:46 PM

If it can run ports of mc, nmap, claws email, ssh, nmap, gps recorder,
openoffice or equivalents and a few other essentials
then it will be worth see-trials.:cool:

gixx

09-13-2010, 11:37 PM

It's just a formal release. Every six months people try to stabilize the package versions and try to make a fairly complete (=minimally broken :) ) release which is hopefully less prone to cause explosive nosebleed on first contact with non-developers. Just as the terminal-mode 1.0 release. It was a release, it was installable, it was 1.0, but it was not really what the end users want.

It is wrong. It will never be similar to Maemo, for better or worse. MeeGo as such doesn't have any 3rd party commercial components which are sort-of expected in a productized release. So Flash, Skype, Ovi Maps, Ovi Store, etc, are NOT part of MeeGo. They will of course be present/shipped in the products BASED on MeeGo, but that is not what this 1.1 release is about.

... Just Meego OS and Common feature?

No Application?
Any Maemo application dose not work with Meego?
No Games?
No Application/Game Partner?

HellFlyer

09-14-2010, 12:06 AM

Oh I remember this crappy blog and his authors who lie and publish bogus info. Couple of weeks ago this website published an article that N900 is getting update to Maemo 6 or wahtever it was with some screenshots from OS2008 and photoshopped slides from Maemo 2009 conference so I wont take any info written there seriously...

ossipena

09-14-2010, 12:41 AM

attila77

09-14-2010, 01:34 AM

... Just Meego OS and Common feature?

No Application?
Any Maemo application dose not work with Meego?
No Games?
No Application/Game Partner?

Correct, those will be added by the vendors (or through MeeGo Extras if such a thing will exist). Pretty much like Android (except you get a compiled, drivers included image as the N900 is the reference HW for ARM devices).

pycage

09-14-2010, 02:11 AM

You could compare raw MeeGo to the open part of Android, lacking the Google apps and without permission to access the Android market.
Open MeeGo on the N900 won't be able to provide DRM, too.

Radicalz38

09-18-2010, 09:03 AM

seriously whats all the hype with meego? Yeah its a new OS so what's the big deal? Up till now I don't really see anything great yet with it. Well this is what i know as of the moment. Meego is QT based OS like symbian4. It runs only QT apps and maemo is like symbian3. It can run gtk and QT where symbian3 runs c++ and QT apps. So why crave for meego now? Anybody can enlighten me? Well don't tell me it has better UI, more battery/memory efficient or would get better support cause seriously... You haven't seen final nokia meego UI yet and still not on the age to be judged by its performance. Also n900 supports also QT so it would also run meego apps. Also last is don't tell me it has multitouch support or better screen cause it's the hardware already and not software.

gerbick

09-18-2010, 09:55 AM

MeeGo is on a fixed schedule, they will make a release every 6 months, whatever they have at that point is 1.1. The late October builds cannot be late for October.

MeeGo the OS might be on a fixed schedule; it does not mean that its implementation across the board is fixed. Once the OS is complete, compiled, there is the task of placing it on the hardware.

Trivial in most situations, but it still has to be done. So even though the OS is ready, Nokia or this community will have to do that.

And besides... delays do happen.

attila77

09-18-2010, 01:38 PM

MeeGo the OS might be on a fixed schedule; it does not mean that its implementation across the board is fixed. Once the OS is complete, compiled, there is the task of placing it on the hardware.

This would be correct if the N900 was not the ARM hardware reference device. As it is, they are doing it now-ish, on a parallel track with the rest of MeeGo, not AFTER 1.1 is released - this is also the reason that at some points the N900 image is not buildable/working. It will of course be interesting to see how stable or usable the actual 1.1 build will be, but that is something unrelated to this thread.

gerbick

09-18-2010, 03:16 PM

This would be correct if the N900 was not the ARM hardware reference device. As it is, they are doing it now-ish, on a parallel track with the rest of MeeGo, not AFTER 1.1 is released - this is also the reason that at some points the N900 image is not buildable/working. It will of course be interesting to see how stable or usable the actual 1.1 build will be, but that is something unrelated to this thread.

Why would it be unusable or unstable if the N900 is the ARM hardware reference device and why is there no definitive statement as to that progress which would lead to official support?

It just doesn't add up. If the N900 is the de facto ARM hardware reference device, then once they've finished with the OS, then make it officially available to all as an upgrade and officially support it.

What exists now is a reference device that's not going to get full support and there's no word on when/if it will be officially implemented... which is all very odd and non-committal of Nokia.

Reference devices don't always equal to implemented publicly device. And that's what I see. As it stands, the N900 is being used as a retail version of the beagleboard - which, doesn't seem that official to me.

Stskeeps

09-18-2010, 03:29 PM

Why would it be unusable or unstable if the N900 is the ARM hardware reference device and why is there no definitive statement as to that progress which would lead to official support?

Because we occasionally do improve the ARM support and break things and have to deal with issues that show up on ARM and not on X86 :) Sometimes you'd think X86 has error-correction built-in.

It just doesn't add up. If the N900 is the de facto ARM hardware reference device, then once they've finished with the OS, then make it officially available to all as an upgrade and officially support it.

There is a dedication to maintaining the N900 port of MeeGo and it isn't going away for a long while. However, some factors here:

* Harmattan isn't MeeGo.com-based (This is clearly seen by the use of deb vs rpm)
* MeeGo for N900 hasn't been built in a typical Nokia productized manner - this has to some extent been a blessing for us as we've had more free hands to do things right, in the open, etc.
* There is a benefit to maintaining MeeGo for N900 as it keeps the ARM port stable and is the only reference device suitable for Handset.
* Other devices will always trail after N900 as we're simply ahead several man-months in implementation.
* When there's a MeeGo.com-based Nokia OS.. well, your guess is as good as mine what would happen. I know what would be technically possible, but..

attila77

09-18-2010, 04:17 PM

It just doesn't add up. If the N900 is the de facto ARM hardware reference device, then once they've finished with the OS, then make it officially available to all as an upgrade and officially support it.

An OS is never finished. Let's repeat this once more. A nice, clean, open OS is just one facet of the smartphone experience most users expect. In other words, are you sure you want to upgrade (switch would be a more correct term here) to an OS without Maps, Skype, Flash and friends, plus on which you would have no Ovi app support (which will be Harmattan oriented). I'm not sure what's the status of mail, instant messaging, etc, but I would not be surprised if that was also more rudimentary than Maemo's at this point. Yes, at some point, when Maemo turns old and grey, MeeGo will be the thing to turn to (with some components borrowed from commercial flavors), it's just that this hop will NOT be PR1.2 to MeeGo 1.1 for most users.

lma

09-18-2010, 04:25 PM

In other words, are you sure you want to upgrade (switch would be a more correct term here) to an OS without Maps, Skype, Flash and friends, plus on which you would have no Ovi app support (which will be Harmattan oriented).

If you put it in those terms, well, HELL YEAH! (and don't forget cherry) ;-)

I'm not sure what's the status of mail, instant messaging, etc, but I would not be surprised if that was also more rudimentary than Maemo's at this point.

Those are somewhat more important though.

allnameswereout

09-18-2010, 11:13 PM

[...]
* Harmattan isn't MeeGo.com-based (This is clearly seen by the use of deb vs rpm)
[...]Eh? Bollocks. With oBS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSUSE_Build_Service) this isn't an issue.

cmsjkung

09-18-2010, 11:35 PM

bandora

09-18-2010, 11:51 PM

Forget it about, better get a new android phone or iphone and never get Nokia phone again, as you can see N8, E9 etc all using Symbian^3, but you will see Nokia will start to release new phone with Symbian^4 next year.... So Nokia may not provide a good support for Symbian^3 again (same as N900 user)

If you still want to be Nokia phone user, then you will be very unhappy again and again....

Well, why don't you start it off by not coming back to this site and selling your Nokia device first! ;)

Do it! Do it for all of us!!!

cmsjkung

09-19-2010, 12:02 AM

I don't understand why some people are only living in his/her own dream........ never wake up and see the truth.....

allnameswereout

09-19-2010, 12:17 AM

Forget it about, better get a new android phone or iphone and never get Nokia phone again, as you can see N8, E9 etc all using Symbian^3, but you will see Nokia will start to release new phone with Symbian^4 next year.... So Nokia may not provide a good support for Symbian^3 again (same as N900 user)

If you still want to be Nokia phone user, then you will be very unhappy again and again....Blahblah, who pays these people lol.

I have given up on using N900 as a phone because of the battery life. Or rather, lack thereof.

I don't understand why some people are only living in his/her own dream........ never see the truth..... There is no truth. Use more LSD.

cmsjkung

09-19-2010, 12:23 AM

hahahahaha......

Russianhaxor

09-19-2010, 12:24 AM

If Meego 1.1 is any less buggy than Maemo 5 PR 1.2 then i'll be jumping ship.

daperl

09-19-2010, 12:28 AM

I don't understand why some people are only living in his/her own dream........ never wake up and see the truth.....

You totally busted us. Everyone at tmo who sad they're happy with their n900 was lying. Thanks for curing us of our denial. Your work here is done. Bye-bye.

gerbick

09-19-2010, 12:29 AM

An OS is never finished. Let's repeat this once more. A nice, clean, open OS is just one facet of the smartphone experience most users expect. In other words, are you sure you want to upgrade (switch would be a more correct term here) to an OS without Maps, Skype, Flash and friends, plus on which you would have no Ovi app support (which will be Harmattan oriented). I'm not sure what's the status of mail, instant messaging, etc, but I would not be surprised if that was also more rudimentary than Maemo's at this point. Yes, at some point, when Maemo turns old and grey, MeeGo will be the thing to turn to (with some components borrowed from commercial flavors), it's just that this hop will NOT be PR1.2 to MeeGo 1.1 for most users.

Doesn't sound like that's anything official. No Skype, Maps, Flash... sounds like a hobbyist OS. I already run Haiku on one machine. Having a phone/internet tablet/pocket computer/jesus device that can't use the aforementioned items set for exclusion is not a complete user experience.

So it's either continued lack of official support in Maemo or a total lack of official apps in MeeGo-Harmattan.

That's utter ********.

cmsjkung

09-19-2010, 12:32 AM

Doesn't sound like that's anything official. No Skype, Maps, Flash... sounds like a hobbyist OS. I already run Haiku on one machine. Having a phone/internet tablet/pocket computer/jesus device that can't use the aforementioned items set for exclusion is not a complete user experience.

So it's either continued lack of official support in Maemo or a total lack of official apps in MeeGo-Harmattan.

That's utter ********.

Agreed....

If you can get Meego 1.1 upgrade for N900 finally (no more Meego upgrade after), with less features supported, then what is the point....

sjgadsby

09-19-2010, 12:35 AM

...a total lack of official apps in MeeGo-Harmattan.

attila77 was writing of MeeGo, not MeeGo-Harmattan. MeeGo-Harmattan on the N900 should include commercial applications.

And actually, even MeeGo (not -Harmattan) for the N900 may have access to some. That matter has been left open for later.

HellFlyer

09-19-2010, 12:51 AM

Dont know about you guys but Nokia's new executive team looks promising. They might actually provide N900 with more updates in the future :)

yeah glass is always half full for me :p

gerbick

09-19-2010, 12:52 AM

attila77 was writing of MeeGo, not MeeGo-Harmattan. MeeGo-Harmattan on the N900 should include commercial applications.

And actually, even MeeGo (not -Harmattan) for the N900 may have access to some. That matter has been left open for later.

I do stand corrected. However not having those aforesaid applications on the ARM reference device is still rather lacking thought and/or logic.

If it's the reference, then the apps should also be there.

bandora

09-19-2010, 01:41 AM

Dont know about you guys but Nokia's new executive team looks promising. They might actually provide N900 with more updates in the future :)

yeah glass is always half full for me :p

Man, what's your address cuz you're a true monument that I've got to visit.. You're the first one here I see that sees the cup half-full! Heck, I don't even see it half full... :(

allnameswereout

09-19-2010, 01:48 AM

Dont know about you guys but Nokia's new executive team looks promising. They might actually provide N900 with more updates in the future :)Sure but, after two times, I'll sit the next one out, if you don't mind. After all, only a donkey makes the same mistake twice.

yeah glass is always half full for me :p:eek: drink more, you're most likely dehydrated.

slobodsky

09-19-2010, 01:55 AM

I'm afraid that MeeGo UX will be too multitouch-oriented to be useful with resistive screen of N900. That's why we will not get the full official MeeGo for it. Other hardware is not a big problem, because Nokia usually releases a line of devices, so the new OS must be scalable enough to take the place of Symbian.

Stskeeps

09-19-2010, 01:58 AM

Eh? Bollocks. With oBS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSUSE_Build_Service) this isn't an issue.

What are you smoking? Just because there's OBS it doesn't mean packaging is there, nor that the base system isn't based on dpkg - check out maemo.gitorious.org.

Stskeeps

09-19-2010, 01:59 AM

I do stand corrected. However not having those aforesaid applications on the ARM reference device is still rather lacking thought and/or logic.

If it's the reference, then the apps should also be there.

Please learn to keep meego.com and MeeGo from Nokia seperate. You won't see non-redistributable commercial applications bundled with meego.com images.

allnameswereout

09-19-2010, 02:10 AM

What are you smoking? Just because there's OBS it doesn't mean packaging is there, nor that the base system isn't based on dpkg - check out maemo.gitorious.org.You don't have to smoke anything to get to the level I'm at. It simply means that you can use the same build system to make one x86-32 RPM port for netbooks, and an ARM deb port for smartphone. Isn't magic...

Harmattan, originally slated to become Maemo 6, is now considered to be a MeeGo instance (though not a MeeGo product), and Nokia is giving up the Maemo branding for Harmattan and beyond (Maemo 5, aka Fremantle, and previous versions will still be referred to as Maemo). Source (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=529073&postcount=14)

gerbick

09-19-2010, 02:11 AM

Please learn to keep meego.com and MeeGo from Nokia seperate. You won't see non-redistributable commercial applications bundled with meego.com images.

The risk of confusing the two is not a creation of my own - simply put, Nokia offers an upgrade path that made real sense, I wouldn't be as confused. Nor would others.

With that said, I know that the Meego.com images will never have commercial applications. I was around during all of the Hacker Editions. No Flash, no... nothing. And they totally sucked.

And people are actually happy with nothing? I repeat; utter ******** and I'm not sold. You people may wander about with your justifications like it's the good thing that will happen, but each and every Hacker Edition, failed attempt to get the next iteration of the OS - which, this time there's no damn excuse because it's the so-called ARM reference device - and yet... not a damn thing has changed from before. A muddy upgrade path, no official anything and a community that I can barely depend upon to even clarify MeeGo versus Meego.com (images) versus MeeGo-Harmattan and any other iteration and/or idea you wish to place in there and I'm the one pointed out for being doubtful and wrong?

Stskeeps

09-19-2010, 02:15 AM

The risk of confusing the two is not a creation of my own - simply put, Nokia offers an upgrade path that made real sense, I wouldn't be as confused. Nor would others.

Agreed, they should have named it something ele.

And people are actually happy with nothing? I repeat; utter ******** and I'm not sold. You people may wander about with your justifications like it's the good thing that will happen, but each and every Hacker Edition, failed attempt to get the next iteration of the OS - which, this time there's no damn excuse because it's the so-called ARM reference device - and yet... not a damn thing has changed from before. A muddy upgrade path, no official anything and a community that I can barely depend upon to even clarify MeeGo versus Meego.com (images) versus MeeGo-Harmattan and any other iteration and/or idea you wish to place in there and I'm the one pointed out for being doubtful and wrong?

I don't disagree with your stance, but before we can put any kind of differentiation on top, we need a working platform. This is where I'm working.

This applies for any kind of MeeGo.com-based products. When Nokia has a MeeGo.com-based product, you can talk to them about dumping in differentiation.

Stskeeps

09-19-2010, 02:16 AM

You don't have to smoke anything to get to the level I'm at. It simply means that you can use the same build system to make one x86-32 RPM port for netbooks, and an ARM deb port for smartphone. Isn't magic...

Source (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=529073&postcount=14)

Sure, but as I was saying, dual packaging for these does not exist, to my knowledge.

And don't get me started on the 'instance' stuff..

attila77

09-19-2010, 03:29 AM

The risk of confusing the two is not a creation of my own - simply put, Nokia offers an upgrade path that made real sense, I wouldn't be as confused. Nor would others.
...
A muddy upgrade path, no official anything and a community that I can barely depend upon to even clarify MeeGo versus Meego.com (images) versus MeeGo-Harmattan and any other iteration and/or idea you wish to place in there and I'm the one pointed out for being doubtful and wrong?

I fully agree that a better (more clearly ?) specified upgrade path would have benefited everyone. As for silly naming, I have blogged about that time and again, and I sadly don't see that one resolved any time soon (on the contrary, see qgil's insistance that MeeGo-Harmattan is just provisional naming). But even if we look beyond (provisionally named) MeeGo-Harmattan, one of the biggest confusors is leveraging MeeGo as a brand when in fact, that's just the basis of the end product being offered to users. It feels a bit like Ubuntu users being confused by new official Debian releases (make no mistake, Debian may be barebones in certain aspects, but it's no hobbyist OS - at least, though, Ubuntu and Debian are named differently).

singhgurbir35

09-19-2010, 04:56 AM

all the applications n games will remain same or there will be sme new games ...................any idea

n900 lover

09-19-2010, 05:22 AM

In English "meego" seams like "Me go" or I go.
For some latin languages "meego" is pronounced similar to "amigo" that means friend.
Let's wait to see if going to Meego will be a good decision and if it is really user friendly. :)

maybe its just another way of saying My Ego? MeEgo?

oneFinn

09-19-2010, 12:34 PM

Please learn to keep meego.com and MeeGo from Nokia seperate. You won't see non-redistributable commercial applications bundled with meego.com images.

Exactly, apps like Maps will not be available unless Nokia decides to make it available to N900 Maemo buyers that have moved to MeeGo (assuming it works some day).

shadowz1337

09-24-2010, 12:29 AM

Basically it's this. Nokia have been working on maemo for a number of years to the point where it is stable and mature. The smartphone market is very competitive and competition is fierce.

Nokia thought that cracking this market and exploiting it was not hard enough as it is and decided to abandon maemo and joined a new system instead - called MeeGo.

Meego does the same thing as maemo but is more open source and development is open to everyone (one day).

Meego is the best because maemo does not sound cool enough and maemo is really old now.

There is a large collection of software for maemo written by many developers who spend significant amounts of time writing new software with loads of features that make the n900 so interesting to own.

With meego there is a probability that much of the current software will have to be changed to run properly on Meego. Developers hate writing new features and prefer spending their time on re-testing and tweaking their software to run on Meego. Why fix bugs when you can spend time constantly changing your software on an ever-changing platform?

Maemo is based on gtk and Meego is based on QT. Gtk & QT make the software on your phone look pretty and help developers write cool software.

Nokia chose QT because it's the best.

Hmm here's a question though, not many people actually bought the N900, at least we know for a fact that during this whole year ever since N900 was launched (almost a whole year anyway), not many developers have actually made any specific top quality killing apps for the phone (those apps are available on iPhone and other platforms already), and the OVI store sucks and really there're just not many developers actually making stuff for it.

People have been abandoning the N900 as well and Nokia pretty much dropped support for it too.

So what makes Nokia think that releasing a new device will change everything?? Who knows, maybe Meego won't even be the final line of the product......

My point being is that you can't trust Nokia anymore these days, at least i don't. With the little amount of support they provided for the N900, as well as its small community of users and developers, i don't see how people would spend money on another Nokia device, only that it's a newer version using Meego....can't they just concentrate on making Maemo great?

Maemo 5 has been through various stages obviously, and now they're jumping straight to Meego....

cmsjkung

09-26-2010, 01:51 AM

Hmm here's a question though, not many people actually bought the N900, at least we know for a fact that during this whole year ever since N900 was launched (almost a whole year anyway), not many developers have actually made any specific top quality killing apps for the phone (those apps are available on iPhone and other platforms already), and the OVI store sucks and really there're just not many developers actually making stuff for it.

People have been abandoning the N900 as well and Nokia pretty much dropped support for it too.

So what makes Nokia think that releasing a new device will change everything?? Who knows, maybe Meego won't even be the final line of the product......

My point being is that you can't trust Nokia anymore these days, at least i don't. With the little amount of support they provided for the N900, as well as its small community of users and developers, i don't see how people would spend money on another Nokia device, only that it's a newer version using Meego....can't they just concentrate on making Maemo great?

Maemo 5 has been through various stages obviously, and now they're jumping straight to Meego....

Agreed....

In many Asia countries, N900 just release as a new Nokia mobile phone for only 3 - 4 months..... and then hear Nokia is abandoning the N900...

Nokia don't really care about customer feeling in these days

I really want my money back from Nokia......

ajflex

09-26-2010, 02:14 PM

you guyz stop spread rumors
nokia is not abandoning the n900
we will soon have the option to choose meego os or maemo os for geek
nuser meego os that we could have games like iphone and adroid as and some good application just as nokia n8

and geeks that want to do daul boot keep maemo
so get in your think heads

ajflex

09-26-2010, 02:20 PM

johnel

09-26-2010, 02:38 PM

mikecomputing

09-26-2010, 05:45 PM

i support nokia move to meego because of more apps and games and make much closer to nokia n8 qt

i am not a geek but love work that maemo.org team is doing, i prefer to have option to utilize the full potential of the nokia n900

closer to n8 and QT? as far as I know N900 has upto date QT also so I dont get you and others point about N900 not supported?

mr_xzibit

09-26-2010, 06:28 PM

lets face it. its all hype. nothing will happen untill(if) it happens nokia dont give a rats *** about the n900! FACT!!!!!
meego aint gonna change that.
there board room is too busy working out ways to con punters into buying the n8 and n9. and meego isnt gonna be a touch on maemo
for at least its first year. by then the n900 will be 2 years old.
and we will all be moaning that we need meego 2.0 like we are for pr1.3. and where the hell is that!!!!! what hope is there??

attila77

09-27-2010, 05:34 AM

It's the same old story of Nokia leaving everything in limbo and not forwith with any information regarding future and current developments.

Until Meego on the n900 fully supports the hardware via the meego UX then it's vapourware.

I want to be proven wrong. :(

lets face it. its all hype. nothing will happen untill(if) it happens nokia dont give a rats *** about the n900! FACT!!!!!
meego aint gonna change that.

Guys. You have *paid staff (http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900#The_team_and_the_work)* working on it, *regular, public, downloadable builds (http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.0.90.4.20100924.1/handset/images/)* and *weekly reports (http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2010-September/005387.html)* on how MeeGo is progressing on the N900, plus *public threads on the whole topic (http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=757&page=19)*.

deadmalc

09-27-2010, 06:04 AM

Am I one of the few who actually are not suprised by what nokia are doing. For me it follows what they have said they would do.
Im quite happy with it, for me if there was an alternative to the n900 i would get it, but there isnt and from what i can see there wont be until nokia release a meego phone.
is this thread just being used to build up ignore lists?

onethreealpha

09-27-2010, 08:18 AM

Guys. You have *paid staff (http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900#The_team_and_the_work)* working on it, *regular, public, downloadable builds (http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/trunk/1.0.90.4.20100924.1/handset/images/)* and *weekly reports (http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-dev/2010-September/005387.html)* on how MeeGo is progressing on the N900, plus *public threads on the whole topic (http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=757&page=19)*.

None so blind as those who don't want to see.

It's so much easier to come on a forum and piss and moan about your abandonment issues than to actually look and see what's going on.
and all because some kid with an i-phone stole their play lunch

Deaconclgi

09-27-2010, 09:42 AM

It's great to see that they now have calls and SMS working in the N900 Meego build:

stskeeps posted this "We're suffering from some technical problems, so we're only currently showing our latest acceptance image on tablets-dev. This will be fixed Monday.

Those who want to try it out and report bugs are more than welcome - this one includes call audio (SIM without PIN-code needed).

Oh, and redistributable SGX, BME, WiFi, BT firmware.. no closed repos included, just non-oss on repo.meego.com

So tablets-dev should be going away soon"

http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=757&page=19

If I am understanding this correctly, the Power VR SGX and other drivers have been added to this release. I hope more of these advancements can be further applied to NITDroid just as the assistance with ofono.

Great work all around! Go Team!