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:) The Mana World (Ported by ArnimS) (http://pupnik.de/tmw.html) - A 2D MMORPG
Wormux (http://happypenguin.org/show?Wormux) - A 2D worms-clone
Status
gsasers: Wormux requires the SDL_gfx library >= 2.0.13 - highest that I can see in the maemo environment is 1.2.x
ha1f: SDL_gfx is a set of drawling routines for SDL. SDLs highest version is 1.2.x, its a matter of getting SDL_gfx itself onto the tablet, which should be pretty easy.
ArnimS: It still crashes and needs UI rework to fit in 800x480
Hedgewars (http://happypenguin.org/show?Hedgewars) - Another 2D worms-clone, except doesn't require OpenGL.
Status
gsasers: Hedgewars relies on QT and cmake... likely a showstop
DESmuMe (http://happypenguin.org/show?DeSmuME) - Nintendo DS emulator
:) Secret Maryo Chronicles (Ported by unique311) (http://happypenguin.org/show?Secret%20Maryo%20Chronicles) - Mario-clone
Status
unique311: I did mario a couple of weeks ago. runs, but slow when alot of sprites show up.. I have a video on youtube of it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS9PxxfNYOA
Armagetron (http://happypenguin.org/show?armagetron)- 3D tron-clone.
Suggested games to be ported:
Angband (http://www.happypenguin.org/show?Angband) - Nethack-esque game.
Free Syndicate (http://freesynd.sourceforge.net/) - A critically-acclaimed RPG with online play.
Barrage (http://lgames.sourceforge.net/?project=Barrage) - Vehicle shooting game
Spheres of Chaos (http://www.spheresofchaos.com/index.php) - Trippy game, which I'm not sure what it is about.
:) Kobo (Ported by ArnimS) (http://pupnik.de/kobodl.html)
Liquid Wars (http://www.ufoot.org/liquidwar/v5)- Another trippy game which i don't understand
Status
ArnimS: liballegro is ~not~ easy to build. I got the minimal libraries built, but then ran into segfaults on the device.
Serge:I think allegro 4.2.x should work on ARM devices. I built 4.2.0 or 4.2.1 some time ago and it worked fine except for 8-bit video modes (they had distortion because of improper alignment) and could not set fullscreen video mode. These problems have been fixed already. Unless they broke something recently, it should be fine.
Feel free to contribute to the list, but do take note of the feasibility (is the source available? does the N800/770 have enough power?)
*Smiley face indicates that it successfully compiles, but does not take into account of performance.
gsagers
06-21-2007, 12:17 PM
Just a preliminary investigation of Wormux and Hedgewars (two of my favorites) shows that Hedgewars relies on QT and cmake rather than GTK and make, and Wormux requires the SDL_gfx library >= 2.0.13 - highest that I can see in the maemo environment is 1.2.x. Don't think the Wormux issue would be a showstopper, just need to find a newer version, but QT likely is for hedgewars. I don't have time to look at them further for a while, so I thought I'd post this in case anyone else is inspired to check them out.
I will be happy to have any Supaplex clone! (Rocks'n'Diamonds, Megaplex...)
-ioan
Karel Jansens
06-21-2007, 12:54 PM
I used to play Liquid War on my old tablet quite a lot.
http://www.ufoot.org/liquidwar/v5
It's quite a fun game and inspiringly "different". Myabe worth porting to Maemo?
zerojay
06-21-2007, 01:36 PM
Here are some of the games which i believe can and should be ported over to N800.
DESmuMe (http://happypenguin.org/show?DeSmuME) - Nintendo DS emulator
Armagetron (http://happypenguin.org/show?armagetron)- 3D tron-clone. I believe this should run pretty smooth on a N800, afterall it can handle a quake 2 game at decent framerate.
Forget about DESmuMe. Armagetron should be possible - if not now, than perhaps when the possible opengl driver is released (if that's what Texrat is referring to).
Forget about DESmuMe. Armagetron should be possible - if not now, than perhaps when the possible opengl driver is released (if that's what Texrat is referring to).
Having seen Quake 2 on the N800, i am fairly certain that Armagetron can run smoothly in software rendering mode.
I doubt we'd ever get opengl support honestly.
is there a installable version of dosbox for the n800 lay'n about somewhere?
--Huck
ArnimS
06-22-2007, 02:36 AM
remember with dosbox you can only reasonably play 8086/8088 era games.
It might be possible to see an x86 JIT compiler under arm sometime in 2008, which could be Big Win for dosbox on nokia.
Until then it's a hacker toy and i have little motivation to make it noob-friendly (installer, packaging)
Ahh... For the old school game...Dark Heart of Uukrul it should work wonderfully!
Asturcon
08-12-2007, 08:06 PM
Space trader - Palm game.
Nilles
08-13-2007, 05:13 AM
Open TTD
(Beter) doom (with selection of different .wad support)
Wolfenstein
Quake
SomeoneE1se
08-14-2007, 01:06 AM
dope wars!! I used to love this game!
PAX IMPERIA 2 (<<pipe dream)
anything from the sonic series
...Wormux requires the SDL_gfx library >= 2.0.13 - highest that I can see in the maemo environment is 1.2.x...
SDL_gfx is a set of drawling routines for SDL. SDLs highest version is 1.2.x, its a matter of getting SDL_gfx itself onto the tablet, which should be pretty easy.
unique311
08-14-2007, 04:26 AM
hmmmm, interesting.
Here are some of the games which i believe can and should be ported over to N800.
The Mana World (http://happypenguin.org/show?The%20Mana%20World) - A 2D MMORPG
Wormux (http://happypenguin.org/show?Wormux) - A 2D worms-clone
Hedgewars (http://happypenguin.org/show?Hedgewars) - Another 2D worms-clone, except doesn't require OpenGL.
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DESmuMe (http://happypenguin.org/show?DeSmuME) - Nintendo DS emulator
Will look into that one.
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Super Mario Clone FX (http://happypenguin.org/show?Super%20Mario%20Clone%20FX) - Mario-clone
I did mario a couple of weeks ago.
runs, but slow when alot of sprites show up..
I have a video on youtube of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YS9PxxfNYOA
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Armagetron (http://happypenguin.org/show?armagetron)- 3D tron-clone. I believe this should run pretty smooth on a N800, afterall it can handle a quake 2 game at decent framerate.
Compiled armegetron for the N800, segfualt, not sure why.
but the dependencies are too much.
had to compile mesa for it to run, cause it requires opengl or mesa
and we know nokia for some reason have the opengl chip in the n800 but no drivers. A license thing I heard.
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Feel free to contribute to the list, but do take note of the feasibility (is the source available? does the N800/770 have enough power?)
a game that would be really cool to port down to maemo is Spheres of Chaos (http://www.spheresofchaos.com/index.php). It's done in SDL and works on pretty weak (by todays standards) hardware. Even though its not open source, I imagine a clone could be made to work just as well.
iball
08-14-2007, 04:50 PM
The Mana World looks interesting...playing it now killing maggots and scorpions to level up...
ArnimS
08-15-2007, 01:00 PM
Here are some of the games which i believe can and should be ported over to N800.
Wormux (http://happypenguin.org/show?Wormux) - A 2D worms-clone
Wormux - this one was a b**** to build.
And it's pretty big - 50MB game data,
http://pupnik.de/wormux_menu.png
iball
08-15-2007, 01:05 PM
Ok, so where's the binary/package for us non-compilers to use? ;)
And why aren't you running your own repository yet?
ArnimS
08-15-2007, 01:40 PM
Ok, so where's the binary/package for us non-compilers to use? ;)
And why aren't you running your own repository yet?
It still crashes and needs UI rework to fit in 800x480
right now you need 50MB free to install it.
I don't want to make yet another repository. I'd like to get these into the extras repo once they're solid.
iball
08-15-2007, 02:29 PM
It still crashes and needs UI rework to fit in 800x480
right now you need 50MB free to install it.
Ouch on the size, but those of us booting from 8GB SDHC can handle it easily enough.
I don't want to make yet another repository. I'd like to get these into the extras repo once they're solid.
Well, some of the stuff you've already done is solid enough to go in there but there is an idea floating around about setting up a "testing" repository at the garage for folks to dump stuff in. Hopefully that goes from idea to reality soon.
bitgeist
08-15-2007, 02:39 PM
I'd think Barrage and Kobo Deluxe would work well with the controls on the Internet Tablet.
http://lgames.sourceforge.net/?project=Barrage
http://olofson.net/kobodl/
ArnimS
08-15-2007, 09:23 PM
I'd think Barrage and Kobo Deluxe would work well with the controls on the Internet Tablet.
http://lgames.sourceforge.net/?project=Barrage
http://olofson.net/kobodl/
Wow i can't believe i forgot about kobo!
Here ya go...
http://pupnik.de/KoboDeluxe.png
Kobo Deluxe - first build (http://pupnik.de/kobodl.html)
unique311
08-15-2007, 09:36 PM
I had kobo, but forgot to package it...
Pupnik I can upload the working sources of everything I got to work.
my packaging skills sucks.
iball
08-15-2007, 09:52 PM
Now, what's the command to RUN kobo after install?
kobo and kobodl don't work...
EDIT: OK, I see where you've setup the page now. I'll wait for version 2 when the keys are mapped fully.
Can't fire using the N800 keys in this one.
space2
08-16-2007, 05:22 AM
Lemmings! I want lemmings ;-)
Anyway of getting Payback (available as a game for GP2X) working on a Nokia N770?
ArnimS
08-16-2007, 09:59 AM
Anyway of getting Payback (available as a game for GP2X) working on a Nokia N770?
Yes, it is a commercial game by an independent games distributor called apex-designs. If you want them to port it, contact them.
http://www.apex-designs.net/games.html
Probably the surest way would be to become a reseller and cut them an advance check for 500-1000 copies of the game. They port it, ship the game to you and you can then make money selling it to the millions of Nokia Tablet owners you know.
</joke> :)
iball
08-16-2007, 02:24 PM
I second Mana World...ArnimS, that's your que to quickly down the source and recompile it. ;)
ArnimS
08-16-2007, 03:39 PM
I second Mana World...ArnimS, that's your que to quickly down the source and recompile it. ;)
Of course i tried it right away - but a bunch of stuff breaks -- not easy to do...
And daimonin is so freaking cool, i really should work on that first - try it out on your PC.
gibbon_rider
09-12-2007, 05:12 PM
how about syndicate? One of the best games there was on the amiga. Not too intensive graphically, and should work well with the touch screen. At least in my mind, which knows nothing about programming or linux....
Googling around, there is an attempt to do a free-synd, in a similar way to free-civ, with linux binaries. But there's nothing i can add as an old man with no leet skillz, and it looks like they're struggling.
for what it's worth, here's the link:
http://freesynd.sourceforge.net/
Any takers of the baton? does what they've done so far work if compiled for the IT?
ArnimS
09-23-2007, 09:22 PM
I used to play Liquid War on my old tablet quite a lot.
http://www.ufoot.org/liquidwar/v5
It's quite a fun game and inspiringly "different". Myabe worth porting to Maemo?
Spent an evening hacking around on this. Turns out liballegro is ~not~ easy to build. I got the minimal libraries built, but then ran into segfaults on the device.
So i talked to the allegro experts and they really need someone to help port/test liballegro 4.9 to various ARM devices.
So please feel free to volunteer - http://alleg.sourceforge.net/
Syntra
09-23-2007, 10:37 PM
I know its never gonna happen but....
I would KILL for World of Warcraft on the N800.
Oh, Any RTS would be good.
Dawnmist
09-24-2007, 12:39 AM
Angband - a turn-based rogue-like game.
Current source available from http://rephial.org.
Interface is available for curses, gtk2, SDL, and X11. Debian repos have ARM compilations, so I think should be mainly Hildonization needed. SDL has sounds with it - which would be a bonus, although I think the sound files themselves need to be downloaded separately from the source (but are available from rephial as well).
thaibill
09-24-2007, 01:34 AM
I like to see the python game, pysol, ported to the tablets. It has over two-hundred solitaire games plus a sound server for music. If looking for something to remove from the code, I suggest dropping the sound server.
Bill
zap345
10-08-2007, 10:54 PM
It would be great to have a good Texas Hold'em simulator on my 770's. One that would play tournaments, with opponents with various playing styles.
Serge
10-09-2007, 02:37 AM
Spent an evening hacking around on this. Turns out liballegro is ~not~ easy to build. I got the minimal libraries built, but then ran into segfaults on the device.
So i talked to the allegro experts and they really need someone to help port/test liballegro 4.9 to various ARM devices.
I think allegro 4.2.x should work on ARM devices. I built 4.2.0 or 4.2.1 some time ago and it worked fine except for 8-bit video modes (they had distortion because of improper alignment) and could not set fullscreen video mode. These problems have been fixed already. Unless they broke something recently, it should be fine.
ArnimS
10-09-2007, 01:05 PM
I think allegro 4.2.x should work on ARM devices.
Yeah i saw - i think for ufo2000
if you can put allegro debs (including -dev) up somewhere that'd be nice
Serge
10-14-2007, 02:23 PM
Yeah i saw - i think for ufo2000
if you can put allegro debs (including -dev) up somewhere that'd be nice
I'm not very familiar with debian packaging, so I'm not sure if I will be able to do '-dev' package right. Anyway, I have added a support request in order not to forget about it (and add something to the tracker): https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1509&group_id=128&atid=542
LAGMonkey
10-15-2007, 05:42 AM
Any RTS....preferiably one of the original C&C games.
C&C original only needed a 486 and MSDos v5! Surely the N800 is powerful enough for this to run in DOSBox?
Settlers 2 would also go well but it needs a little more power to run.
Anyone got a direct comparason with processors for the N800? (aka. N800 => pentium 50Mhz, or N800 => 486 )
Syntra
10-15-2007, 09:38 PM
Since no one can help me in the thread for it, I suppose I'll ask here.
I will PAY for someone to make a .deb of OpenTTD that will install on my N800.
ArnimS
10-20-2007, 01:19 PM
Since no one can help me in the thread for it, I suppose I'll ask here.
I will PAY for someone to make a .deb of OpenTTD that will install on my N800.
I'm sorry, i can't afford an N800, so i can't diagnose/fix the problem. Based on our chat in #maemo irc (dpkg -i not working), it looks like a broken package, but i can't confirm this.
Contact the packager, inform them of the problem (detailed description) - remind that the Section: line in the debian/control must be a subsection of user: For e.g. Section: user/games
http://plaes.org/blog/2007/02/15/openttd-on-n800/
http://openttd.toimii.net/maemo/
http://dastych.sh.cvut.cz/~jtra/stuff/maemo/openttd.html
http://www.tt-forums.net/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=30464&hilit=n800
Since no one can help me in the thread for it, I suppose I'll ask here.
I will PAY for someone to make a .deb of OpenTTD that will install on my N800.
http://dastych.sh.cvut.cz/~jtra/stuff/maemo/openttd.html
This version should work on N800 without any modifications or it works on my N800. If it doesn't work, perhaps your system is missing some packages. But try to get newest version of N800 firmware. Perhaps it helps.
Also of course you can try to use plaes n800 patch, but it needs bit more work. Installing scratchbox, downloading newest version of openttd from svn, patching + perhaps needs some editing, and so on.
elwood
10-20-2007, 03:26 PM
I would love poker clients. Pokerstars, Partypoker, Cake... Seeing that there are no official linux clients to begin with and you have to run them through wine right now, I guess it won't happen.
LAGMonkey
10-21-2007, 10:27 AM
FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA,
OR....
FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC
:p
Syntra
10-21-2007, 08:01 PM
Contact the packager, inform them of the problem (detailed description) - remind that the Section: line in the debian/control must be a subsection of user: For e.g. Section: user/games
I have attempted to contact the user Plaes, but I have yet to get a response. (contacted him 1+ week ago)
http://dastych.sh.cvut.cz/~jtra/stuff/maemo/openttd.html
This version should work on N800 without any modifications or it works on my N800. If it doesn't work, perhaps your system is missing some packages. But try to get newest version of N800 firmware. Perhaps it helps.
Also of course you can try to use plaes n800 patch, but it needs bit more work. Installing scratchbox, downloading newest version of openttd from svn, patching + perhaps needs some editing, and so on.
That is the version I attempted to install, and got nothing with.
ArminS, if you have OS2007 Hacker Edition, maybe you could try and get it working with that?
ArnimS
10-24-2007, 02:14 AM
FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA, FreeRA,
OR....
FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC, FreeCNC
:p
Hey, nice find!
FreeCNC seems to be discontinued, but FreeRA seems to be active, so I built the download version from sourceforge and bundled a free sample mission.
http://pupnik.de/freera.png
http://pupnik.de/freera_armel_001.tgz
Untar this to a directory with 25MB free space. If you untar to SD/MMC you need to move the freera executeable to somewhere on your root filesystem to execute it (e.g. /usr/bin). Check README_Nokia.txt for notes.
I have no idea how this is supposed to play. I'm keeping an eye out for CnC - RA auctions on eBay.
(edit) thanks to sol for testing on N800 - on N770 it crashes on trying to malloc 64MB. The bad news is that the game doesn't appear to be playable with the free demo. Author's homepage http://www.freera.org is not clear on exactly how playable it is. If you have the original Red Alert CDs, let us know if freera is playable with them.
cheers
pipeline
10-24-2007, 07:32 AM
Nice, i dont have data for ra1 though :(
On the links page of freera they have link to this free similar game :
http://stratagus.sourceforge.net/install.shtml
Any idea if all the libraries it requires can be found for maemo?
EDIT : Ok so thats just the engine.. actual games built from it are here :
http://stratagus.sourceforge.net/games.shtml
Looks like they have warcraft and starcraft engines (none of which i own) and a boswars game that looks complete but looks too good to be true (at least for maemo) :
http://www.boswars.org/download.shtml
I downloaded this for desktop and it looks great... maemo could probably handle it (if all libraries were available).
ArnimS
10-24-2007, 12:12 PM
http://www.boswars.org/download.shtml
I downloaded this for desktop and it looks great... maemo could probably handle it (if all libraries were available).[/QUOTE]
Boswars is running here.
(edit) Not playable though... full maemo build tree w/exe here: http://pupnik.de/boswars-2.4_maemo-src.tgz
Let me know if you're missing dependencies.
pipeline
10-24-2007, 01:31 PM
:) So will this be turned into a pupnik download release? Any major issues?
I can set up the installer if u want.
Lester King
11-01-2007, 11:38 AM
I can't believe no one has mentioned X-Com: Ufo Defense.
As I recall it was almost entirely a mouse-based interface, too. Probably wouldn't need a keyboard at all to play it.
I used to play that game on my 286, it shouldn't be too hard to play in DosBox, right?
ballotum
11-05-2007, 10:28 AM
:confused::confused:cany anyone fifa 2008 counter strike - half life
Syntra
11-12-2007, 12:59 AM
Ballotum:
First off, none of those games are Linux Compatible.
Second off, They have much higher required specifications than the N800 (or N810 for that matter) can handle. Quake and Doom have been ported, though. Might wanna check those two out.
ballotum
11-12-2007, 06:40 AM
i have tried them but not they're not so good
first there are apps like vmware & wine etc which u can run windows apps
two i was playing fifa 2007 @ my n-gage before i burned it's cpu :d
i dont say theye must be successfuly %100 same like @ pc :)
and if we can resize the images it may may may work :p
i was loving my n-gage 's games i know it's game platform and 770 is internet
jhoff80
11-12-2007, 06:15 PM
Not necessarily ports, but a few games I'd love to see on the tablet that I have on my Treo: Picross (would probably be even better with the increased space on the tablets, the Treo's version limits to 25x25), Cryptograms, Backgammon, etc.
patleeman
12-24-2007, 05:54 PM
If somebody could port jagged alliance 2, i would actually pay money for it.
ArnimS
12-24-2007, 07:18 PM
If somebody could port jagged alliance 2, i would actually pay money for it.
Searching the web for it, i see that JA2 was released for linux and the source code was released in 2004.
Looks doable - nice request patleeman.
patleeman
12-25-2007, 09:46 AM
i found this site: http://ja2.dragonriders.de/index.html
I wish i could help do some work on this, but i know no programming and i'm a linux noob :(
But this is one of my all time favorite games, it would be amazing on the n800
ArnimS
12-28-2007, 10:39 AM
I just ordered JA2 CD from amazon. Will see if i can get it to work.
patleeman
12-29-2007, 02:32 PM
hope so! :D
I've been playing ja2 w/ the 1.13 patch and it sucks up so much of my time lol
unique311
03-10-2008, 08:08 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/unique0nez/
Desmume running, but so slow. topped at 5 fps
asqwasqw
03-10-2008, 11:12 PM
um...
X-COM get lost here....
wow, this is one crazy thread, and i mean just unbelievably amazing
If somebody could port jagged alliance 2, i would actually pay money for it.
Show me the mooneeeyy!
j/k of course
HaloXeon
03-11-2008, 01:19 PM
I'd love to see an old favourite on my n800, crystal caves. If you don't know what it is then go to: http://www.3drealms.com/caves/
Btw is rollercoaster tycoon out of the question? no open source version exists i think, but someone did port something similar, err transport tycoon i think.
Hey ArnimS,
just was on pupnik.de and via links came to mameGP2x. There is a new release from 11.3.2008 called mame4all (including source...).
As this emu is on your most wanted list, how about a new challenge :D
Really great work from you so far...keep it going.
MiBi
Mika73
03-21-2008, 08:45 PM
Alter Ego would be very nice. :)
There was atleast C64, PC, maybe Atari and Apple version too..
With C64 it did take huge 6 disc sides..
http://theblackforge.net/
Still dream about C64 emulator and M.U.L.E. Found nice looking Open M.U.L.E project.. http://www.codenautics.com/openmule/
ArnimS
03-28-2008, 07:40 AM
Alter Ego would be very nice. :)
There was atleast C64, PC, maybe Atari and Apple version too..
With C64 it did take huge 6 disc sides..
http://theblackforge.net/
Still dream about C64 emulator and M.U.L.E. Found nice looking Open M.U.L.E project.. http://www.codenautics.com/openmule/
http://pupnik.de/mule_TOX_0.06_maemo.tgz needs some work but runs
linman
03-28-2008, 08:25 AM
Guys I think we need a repository where to put the ported games.
All games in one centralized repository! Now most of the ported games in this forum just are lost in the posts.
....
Jaykie
03-28-2008, 08:38 AM
How about a couple of Puzzle games?
Xpuyopuyo - http://chaos2.org/xpuyopuyo/
and
Frozen Bubble - http://www.frozen-bubble.org/
There already seems to be thread about Frozen Bubbles but it was for OS2005. Maybe it's easier to port now?
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96
Br,
Jaykie
Jaykie
03-28-2008, 08:39 AM
Guys I think we need a repository where to put the ported games.
All games in one centralized repository! Now most of the ported games in this forum just are lost in the posts.
....
Totally agree with Linman!
Bundyo
03-28-2008, 08:52 AM
And we can't use the extras since most of our ports are not very stable ;)
GeneralAntilles
03-28-2008, 09:01 AM
And we can't use the extras since most of our ports are not very stable ;)
That's what Extra-devel is for.
bald.eagle.one
01-05-2010, 11:20 AM
just to fresh up the thread :)
would love to have The Settlers 2 on n900 imo best settlers game ever
should have enough power?
Flandry
01-05-2010, 11:24 AM
Not open source. There is a similar open source game in one of the request lists, i think.
See my sig link on architecture for more on the problem with that.
bald.eagle.one
01-05-2010, 11:53 AM
yes i've found widelands now waiting for skilled people to make it work on n900
also i will try to run it in dosbox (http://www.dosbox.com/comp_list.php?showID=1763&letter=S)
but probably will be quite slow
Descent series, it's open source.
Elhana
01-05-2010, 01:01 PM
Thread necromancy is bad. Most posts are irrelevant now. Please don't - create new one, make a link if you feel like you have to refer to an old one.
Why not to merge this thread with http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=31432
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