What's on your 770 and Why?

[Mike Cane]

This has been a popular thread when I've instigated it on other sites.

Tell us what you've put on your 770, and why. For example, there are at least two ebook readers out there (I think!). If you've put only one on, Why? And the Why goes for those obscure hacker-like apps we mere mortals don't even know exist!

Also mention the size of RS-MMC you're using and how much of it you've already filled!

This will also help me to choose what to put on my own 770 (which, again, I will say I got for free from Nokia -- no brag; full disclosure!). Thanks!

Perhaps Reggie will make this a sticky too.

[Simon]

Man, you're going to be feeling guilty about getting that free 770 for ages aren't you :)

I am looking forward to reading e-books on the 770. I used to on my Palm with it's 160 by 160 greyscale screen. This will be sheer luxury! Maybe people can include links in their comments to the useful apps.

[Reggie]

I'll start.

1. CPU/Mem/Screenshot applet - adds an icon at the top that shows CPU and memory usage. It's integrated with a great screenshot utility too.

2. FBReader - seems to be more stable than Plucker. I like how the zoom buttons becomes a page rocker when reading a book in portrait mode. Nokia should have this on the 770 by default!

3. GPE- PIM apps (GPE-Calendar, Contacts and To-do) - No PC/Mac sync solution yet but it does its thing.

4. Gaim - IM solution for the 770. Used this several times already on the airport.

5. LX Doom - The classic Doom on the 770. Best eye-candy game. Supports multiplayer by the way.

6. AbiWord - Haven't fully tried this but at least I know I have a fully working word processor on the 770

7. Bluetooth keybaord plugin - haven't tried using it with my Stowaway BT keyboard yet. Again, at least I know i can switch to using a keybaord when I'm on the road and need to type a lengthy document.

8. Tapioca - IM and VoIP solution. I haven't installed this yet but it's the next on my list.

I also have to mention Media Creator. It's not installed on the 770 but it's one great utility to convert videos to the 770 format.

Just to add, I have bookmarked Gmail, web-based email sites, and itT of course on the browser.

I have added most of the sites listed in Planet Maemo on to my newsreader.

[elwood]

Not much right now:

1. FBReader
2. ScummVM

and that's everything as far as apps go.

As for the rs-mmc (1 gb Sandisk)

Arrested development season 2 (first 5 episodes)
Amazing Race season final
Monkey Island 1
Monkey Island 2
Day of the tentacle

[fuslit]

Games:
LX Doom: installed played and removed... I don’t' have time for games, was more curious to see how well it worked.

ScummVM: with 'Beneath a steel sky' played the whole game, quite good (locked up at least once a play.) When minimized it did not show up on the left side bar as an icon. Played the game fully through and removed it. 'scratched the itch' so to speak, it works quite well as a game platform (at least in this instance.)

BattleJeweled: Bejeweled clone, I installed it for my wife who likes that game and I'm quite impressed with how fast it is.

Maemo Blocks: Tetris clone, what can I say, it works well, I like Tetris

CrimsonFields: installed but haven't had a chance to play

System Tools
- X terminal: Installed for access to the root of this device, as well as utilize this as the linux device I believe it should be.

- Vim: see #2 used to edit files.

- Drop Bear SSH Client, Server: used for shell access to my workstations and servers.

- CPU/Mem/Screenshot applet: Shows cpu/mem usage, and allows processes to be killed if frozen.

Program Software:

- Plucker: I didn't realize there was another one out there (I'll have to try it.)

- GPE- PIM apps (GPE-Calendar, Contacts and To-do)

- Gaim: kind of slow for my liking, but will work. I'll be looking for something better.


Things I'm interested in:

- Tom-Tom
- Bluetooh GPS unit
- Bluetooth Keyboard

I want to use this as something to admin systems with, check networking issues, and by using the GPE software hopefully maintain a todo-list, calendar, and contact list.

If and when I get the Gps unit I think this would be a great tool to use for drives as well as check into Kismet for wireless access finding. That was the plan, we'll see how it works out. I just ordered a 256mb card for it because it was cheap enough for me to afford after dropping way more then I wanted to at compusa. That being said the bluetooth options are a bit off in the distance as well because my phone does not support them.

Hope that helps:
-Todd

[RealNitro]

- LXDoom: I got bored of all the puzzle games, I wanted some action
- FBReader: I love the portrait mode
- Evince: Just curious, just in case some pdf doesn't load well in the default app
- GPE Calendar: not using it a lot atm
- GPE Todo-list: I forget stuff ;)
- X-terminal: needed to ssh and to start vpnc
- ssh: to connect to linux-servers
- vpnc: I need it to connect to our university network. (I can't get it to work on the latest software release. Is anyone else having that problem?)
- inet-utils: I neeeed ping
- vim: to edit config-files

[ks1g]

openssh for X session forwarding, will go back to dropbear if there isn't a way to get the keypad to come up.

vim text editing
x-term for local consoles
collection of ip tools

Will probably add FBreader, Gaim, maybe Abiword. Need to track down the CPU app (links, please people!)

Holding off on PIMs for now - my old Sony Clié works fine.

HW: 1GB rs-mmc card, maybe a BT keyboard, maybe a BT phone as I have to renew the cell phone service anyway!

Anyone have a way of getting RealAudio streams?

[bradb]

Ok, I work for a wannabe mainstream database company so I need to use the 770 for work as much as anything else (my primary machine is a TC1000 TabletPC - light and small, but slow. And the 770 and take it's place for 80% of what I do).

I've loaded the following (in no order):

- status bar plugin for load (cpu/memory); I use version 0.2.4-1 (http://koti.welho.com/jpavelek/tmp/770/)

- osso-xterm to get to a command prompt (http://770.fs-security.com/xterm/)

- bash for a decent command shell (what can I say, I like ksh) (http://www.opbyte.it/maemo/)

- tiny-vi for the one true editor (http://www.bleb.org/software/770/#vim)

- dropbear ssh so I can access other systems, use scp to copy files between systems, and alow me to login from my tablet and use a real keyboard ;-)) (http://maemo.org/maemowiki/InstallSsh)

- bluetooth keyboard plugin to use my Nokia keyboard (http://770.fs-security.com/keyboards.html)

- I've changed the desktop web link to point to google (and changed the icon to match)

- gpsdrive (http://www.elisanet.fi/tapio.tolvanen/nokia770.html). If you're serious about using this application, I've got a small shell script hack that scans for a gps (currently looks for a 'Garmin' but can be changed) and creates a gps.id file for gpsdrive. Just drop me a note.

- sqlite (http://www.owenwilliams.plus.com/maemo/) for gpsdrive and my own custom application development (though I'm playing with a mysql port).

- I've also loaded some disk utilities I've ported (fdisk, cfdisk, mkswap, mke2fs) for managing partitions and file systems on the MMC

I've been hunting for a decent display to use with a bluetooth gps and the 770 is the best platform for that use (great display, decent storage, and connectivity to boot).

The software (gpsdrive) needs serious help and may never be as good as something like that cute little Tom Tom box (I saw one and thought I'd love it but the display is pretty bad compared with the 770) due to the limitations of public domain maps. But the source is available, and I've been able to modify it and build from source so that - in my mind - makes for a dream gps platform. It can be anything I want (assuming I can fake it good enough ;-))

Finally, in the spirit of the post, here are some 'fixes' I consider mandatory (some require root access):

- Edit 'ld.so.conf' and add a line for '/var/lib/install/usr/lib', then run 'ldconfig'. This means you'll always have access to libraries you install (and actually corrects a maemo bug [1.1rc5] for user installed home plugins)

- Create a .profile with the line 'export PATH=$PATH:/var/lib/install/usr/bin' and put it in /home/user (with owner/group user/users) and /root (owner/group root)

- Use visudo (make sure you 'export VISUAL=/var/lib/install/usr/bin/vi' first!) to add 'su' to 'ALL'. This allows you to 'sudo su -' to get to root. Less to type, plus it actually parses /root/.profile.

- Consider using part of your MMC as swap. Since the 770 has limited memory, it's fairly easy to setup a 24MB file on the default 64M card, or create a swap partiiton (no link, sorry, it's http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=602 somewhere).

It will provide additional memory resources for the machine and I think that makes a much better user experience. The downside? The MMC gets unmounted when you plug into a Windows PC (need to manually turn swap off) and it will cause your MMC to wear out much faster (how many writes? 10k to 1 million I've been told, not sure what's the correct figure. how long to write 10k to a bit when used as swap?)

I'd be interested what Nokia says about doing this

- Consider partitioning your MMC for your own needs. I know biggest asset the 770 has is it's ability to use network resources, But I consider it mandatory to have a number of local resources as well. Because in a real world, even in the biggest city in the great state of Oregon I can't always get wifi OR gprs access - not yet anyways.

And my feeling is that using something like ext2fs vs a VFAT file system becomes important when using a larger MMC card - so I'll pick speed over convenience. There are many ways to transfer files to the 770 other than using a USB cable.

So, I'd always partition my MMC cards into a small swap partion (maybe reserve the first 64MB) and the rest for ext2fs (mounted as /home, or perhaps /home/user).

- Add another user with a decent shell (call me a coward, but I'm not sure it's safe to change the default shell for 'user'), so right after login you can type 'sudo su - broot' (to get a root login with bash).

- Make opera scrolling usable (http://maemo.org/maemowiki/ScrollInOperaWithThumb) Yeah, I know, you can hold the key down. I don't want too, thanks. I wish this would scroll a page, not a line. But I'm pretty crazy (I also want to build applications that can be used without a stylus - I hate the stylus)

- Use ssh to remotly access the 770. If you want to use the box as a *Nix machine, this will make a 'light vs day' kind of difference. Freed from the touchscreen it makes me want to scream like a schoolgirl ;-)

I just bought a Nokia bluetooth keyboard so I think if you can afford it, it will make a mandatory accessory for the hardcore (once the software develops). Plus, if you stretch the cheezy 770 case (I threw it in the box in the closet) the keyboard is a snug fit. That way, I can keep the 770 and keyboard in the same coat pocket without them rubbing together.

Finally (whew)... I always run the screen calibration utility (from the control panel) after I reload my 770 (I've trashed it so many times now it's embarassing ;-)). I find this makes typing with the onscreen keyboard much better. I think Nokia should force this to run during the initial configuration (ala the PocketPC).

Sorry this is a bit long and rambling, but the first time I got to a bash prompt from a remote connection via ssh, I yelled outloud (no, not like a schoolgirl). The feeling, the power. Finally, the 21st century in my pocket. The future may very well be all it was cracked up to be after all.

[nowen]

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I don't have my 770 yet to try. Can this be done just using the UI on the 770 or does it require a "hack" of some kind?

"- I've changed the desktop web link to point to google (and changed the icon to match)"

[AngelR]

It can be done without a hack. Just click on Home -> Web shortcut details... A dialog box will pop up asking for the link and a browse button to look for the picture.

Regards,
Angel

[nowen]

It can be done without a hack. Just click on Home -> Web shortcut details... A dialog box will pop up asking for the link and a browse button to look for the picture.

Regards,
Angel

Thanks Angel!

Niles

[michaelalanjones]

Anyone have a way of getting RealAudio streams?No, but Shoutcast.com works just fine.

[putkowski]

how 'bout that cfdisk?

got some tips or do they just come from yo' sista?

[ks1g]

No, but Shoutcast.com works just fine.

Yes, I spotted another post someplace suggesting it; works really well; no problems with the browser hanging or the player not launching. Need to edit the names of streams saved to favorites but not that big of an issue. I was trying Live365 and it was frsutrating - it insists on opening another browser window and I was having about a 50% success rate getting the stream to load and play. In contrast, shoutcast is 100%. Recommended.

And my 1GB Sandisk rs-mmc from Buy.com arrived today. :D Going to split it into swap, a vfat partition for moving data and files over usb, and a big ext2fs partition for everything else.

[cAPSLOCK]

Do you have any worries about the lifespan of your flash memory once you have designated a partition to withstand the relatively high write activity of swapping?

On my 770:

FBReader
very pleased even after being spoiled by µbook... look forward to further development

xterm
requirement... period

nethack
nice port! gotta set up some easy save file copy/restre scripts ;)

lxdoom
goodness... if this can run so fast on the 770, I don't see why we couldn't expect vast improvements in speed/efficiency in other apps and the OS.

In fact, I look forward to something alternative for the 770 along the lines of a somewhat stripped-down, or altogether different GUI system. I am impressed with maemo, but it sure feels like,it is asking a lot of the device when I feel that the device should be capable of running smoothly within the constaints of this hardware.

If a 200mhz/64M ram machine can run win95 then we should be able to do a little more with what we have.. jmho, and another thread realy. ;)

[Lord Bodak]

No, but Shoutcast.com works just fine.

How about Windows Media 9 streaming audio?

[bradb]

how 'bout that cfdisk??

Oops, sorry I missed this. Yeah, my tip is to build it from the source ;-)

Ok, sorry - I forgot where I got the source from. I want to say it was http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/cfdisk-utf8.html but I'm not sure (the package I linked to is a UTF8 version of the disk utilities).

As I said, finding the source package to build was the hardest part. If you can trust someone like me, feel free to PM me and I'll send you the compiled binaries for fdisk, cfdisk, mkswap, and mke2fs. If you don't, google is your friend ;-)

got some tips or do they just come from yo' sista?

Well, if I had one I'm sure she'd... well... let's not go there ;-)

Brad.

[Robette]

ks1g: okay lemme see if I've got this straight. The swap is for memory limits until they fix the OS, the vfat is for windows connectivity, and the ext2fs is another place for your installs. Did I get anything wrong?

by the way, is their a good short list anywhere of must know commands for xterm? ty.

[bradb]

And my 1GB Sandisk rs-mmc from Buy.com arrived today. :D Going to split it into swap, a vfat partition for moving data and files over usb, and a big ext2fs partition for everything else.

Oh man... my 512MB Sandisk came from Buy.com too (the 1GB wasn't in stock :-().

I gave up on VFAT because I'm sure I'd forget to turn swap off before I plugged it into a Windows machine (and my luck it'd crash too).

But swap and ext2fs is a good idea - I setup 2 24MB swap partitions (I'm saving an extra 24MB in case I 'fry' the first 24 swapping - I guess I'm being 'half-empty' here) and the rest as ext2fs.

If you've got wireless access, Winscp (or scp from a *nix box) is almost as easy as using VFAT.

Brad.

[ks1g]

ks1g: okay lemme see if I've got this straight. The swap is for memory limits until they fix the OS, the vfat is for windows connectivity, and the ext2fs is another place for your installs. Did I get anything wrong?

That's the basic idea. I've been playing a bit more with it, and here's what I am using so far on my 1GByte Sandisk RS-MMC card:

1st partition: large FAT (I think it's type "6" in the Linux fdisk program) partition. I used the identical partition type the 770 software sets up if you format the MMC card using the stock software from Nokia. I selected the 1st partition because the 770 defaults to mounting this partition as the memory card (probably an entry in /etc/fstab that I need to check). I decided to leave the "stock" config alone as much as I could. I noticed that the partition is flagged as bootable, so I left it that way.

I also created a 16MByte swap file on this section.

2nd partition: Dedicated swap, 64 MBytes. Activated manually (run swapon as root in the 770).

3rd partition: ext3fs (journaling file system; more forgiving of sudden unmounts if I pop the MMC card or plug in USB!). I am assuming the 770 kernel has ext3fs support. If it doesn't, no biggie - the kernel should mount it as an ext2fs partition. I currently mount this manually. So far, I haven't tried using it for very much.

After I do some more playing around, I will edit /etc/fstab and/or create some shell scripts to allow me to mount and unmount swap files, swap partitions, and make better use of this storage.

To create these partitions, I connected the 770 via USB cable to a Ubutnu Linux desktop system. The Linux system automatically mounted the partition(s) on the MMC card, so I had to unmount them first. I then (as root on my desktop) used "fdisk -l /dev/sda" to see what partitions were on the MMC and "fdisk /dev/sda" to change them. (My system mounts USB devices as if they were SCSI devices; your mount points may vary). You could also edit partitions by removing the MMC card from the 770 and using a card reader, or install fdisk on the 770 and run it locally.

Once the partitions are created, you need to format them using mkfs.vfat for the FAT partition, mkswap for the swap partition, and mke3fs or mke2fs for the Linux partition. You use the "swapon" and "swapoff" commands (as root) on the 770 to make swapfiles or swap partitions active.

by the way, is their a good short list anywhere of must know commands for xterm? ty.

What you really want are the built-in commands for the busybox shell the xterm makes available, or for the bash shell if you use that. And tips and tricks on customizing your environment to load $PATH, library file paths, and provide command shortcuts (like launch an ssh session to a system you access regularly). The situation will get better as more people figure out and document what works well. In the meantime, there are numerous books and web sites on beginner shell commands that should get you started. Busybox appears to use a subset of commands used by the bash shell, so the many tutorials on bash should be of some use.

I've been using my desktop linux system to edit the various files (easier to have a large display, keyboard, and keep open windows to various web sites that way). I then copy the files to the 770 (via USB, could also use scp or place onto a web server and download) and install them where needed. I could do it all on the 770, but I find it easier this way.

[incarnis]

On my 770:

Alpha port of rdesktop...lets me use RDP and looks cool... ;-)

[JPB]

This has been a popular thread when I've instigated it on other sites.

Tell us what you've put on your 770, and why.

Interesting question and the answers are even more interesting.
So the answer to WHAT = is almost nothing.
The answer to WHY = I believe that the tablet goes together with the growing on line applications. Why would they otherwise put in only a tiny 64Mb card?
I have (almost) nothing on my tablet.
Still I do almost everything on my tablet.
Calendar, Pictures, Mail, Family Tree, Time Sheets, Project Management, and soon my bookkeeping.

[rjungmann]

hi, i just get mine a few days after christmass. wow what a thing !

i noticed some crashes a lot of time, in web, in news, and especially in email !

i noticed today that nokia europe published on 30 december a software update.
i just applied it, and i must admit that it seem to work a lot better.
i noticed some changes in the web browser, in the keyboard entry thing, a it doesn't crash today !

bonus : you get three games, chess, mahjong, marbles. all good at all, i prefers chekers as chess but...hey it's bonus !

i added pim utility
solitaire
screencapture utility with proc. charge
added gaim, working god with msn at this moment...
i plan to add vnc
and to connect it to a gps.

i added some pictures of subways : paris and london at this moment.

i use it to get my mails, surf...
i read news, the rss feed are nice here...
no need to read mp3 at this moment coz' my w800i does it
as well as fm radio.
but, i have programmed some of my prefered fm radio that streams over the net. i think i will be happy sometime
o listen to it while i'm far :)

i hope that some games will come.
i hope we will make music with this thing : wave and modules (remember amigas soundtracker ?)
i hope that someone will optime the mame (multi arcade machine emulator) for the 770 soon (for sprites games !)

so keep working and using it it's a revolution coming to computers !

[pdafan]

Well, I had ordered from nokiausa.com back in December, but when they didn't send it by their originally promised date, I went and got one for $349 from CompUSA! I'm glad I did.

Intended uses:
- PDA/PIM
- Occasional web access
- MP3 player
- Storing password lists
- Create spreadsheets, read Word and other docs

What I have on it:
- dropbear ssh (I use this all the time in order to use my desktop keyboard!)
- xterm (good port, but sometimes crashes when using tabbed mode)
- vim (what can I say, I'm not an Emacs guy)
- fbreader (don't really use it, but it seems like a nice app)
- lxdoom (for when I have time to kill at an airport)
- CPU load plugin
- Clock plugin (no need for clock on the desktop any more!)

What I've tried:
- GPE PIM. I currently use a Psion 5MX, and that will remain my PDA for the time being. The 770 really needs a robust, integrated Calendar/Todo manager and a better contacts manager. I haven't tried DejaDesktop yet, but I will.
- Xtris : didn't minimize properly to the dock, so I removed it. All 770 apps should play well in this device before being included in the Application Catalog!
- Some other games. Crazyparking didn't even appear in the menu so it's gone.

Mods:
- Swap space partition and ext3 partition. This is a must! I tried mounting my user directory on the flash card, but the machine didn't function normally after that. The swap space really makes a difference in performance even though I seldom have many things open at the same time. I was able to get the ext3 partition to be visible under the "Memory card" link in all the file requestors by making it bootable and settings permissions for "user" and modifying /etc/fstab.
- New screen background, removed everything from desktop. (easy!)
- Rooted
- Modified some menus, created links to / and /home/user in ~/MyDocs
- Pelican PSP screen protector - I can't even tell it's there, and I haven't been able to scratch it. $10 for 2, and I'll bet they'll last for years.
- Opera scrolling button change (easy, you must do this one!)

What's good about the 770:
- Excellent screen, although I find it to be very hard to read in broad daylight. That's not much of a problem though since I'm usually indoors when using it.
- Fast bootup time, excellent wake up time, good battery life, good ergonomics and size.
- Good wifi performance and integration. Easy setup and good options.
- Adequate CPU speed and memory. I seldom exceed 50-75% RAM utilization with the swap enabled.
- Good browser compatibility and speed. Even ESPN.com works! I do have flash disabled. Note: the browser does leave processes laying around after it's done. To automatically kill these, choose Close->All Windows from the menu!! :D

What can be improved on the 770:
- Allow user to install software either in internal or external flash. This is seamlessly integrated into my Psion and I don't see a reason why the 770 can't do it. It might limit the hot plug USB capability, but I can accept that.
- Continue to improve on the OS and application stability. Particularly the browser and the application installer. The device also also sometimes can't restore wifi after waking up from sleep or especially after coming out of Offline Mode. My Psion hasn't needed a reboot in a year!
- Have the option for more RAM or allow the user to enable swapping from the control panel.
- Allow user to customize menus. I would like to remove the email icon from the dock and further remove clutter from the main menu. I have already removed everything that I can using the hacks shown on this site.

Software wishlist:
- Good PDA/PIM software. I'd even be willing to pay for this, although I don't care about syncing to anything.
- Some encryption mechanism to allow encrypting of arbitrary files. Right now I use Crypto on my Psion. The Zaurus application list seems to have many alternatives.
- A good database program. This could handle a contacts list and a password list for example. The best was back when I had an HP 200LX!
- Open source web browser with a smaller memory footprint than Opera.
- Smaller/faster PDF viewer.

Summary:
- Overall, this is a terrific machine with lots of potential! For a first version, it is really good. Right now I can't really recommend it to a non-Linux geek because of its slowness and instability out of the box. With some small changes it becomes much more usable. In the future there will no doubt be lots of great software to choose from.

[raminf]

Just got mine a few days ago, ordered directly from the Nokia website. Amazingly, it arrived four days after I ordered it. It took me about 1/2 hour to completely lock myself out :) It went into an endless bootup loop so I had to flash it with a new image and start over. After a day MMC card was full and I was getting finger cramps from typing long URLs using the on-screen keyboard. I found a good deal on a 1GB SanDisk RS-MMC card and a Think Outside BT keyboard. Much better now.

Things I've tried so far:

- Pairing with a Mac Mini via BT and browsing the mac's disk (couldn't get it to work with bluetooth on an IBM Thinkpad, though).
- Browsing the RS-MMC card as a USB drive from both Mac and XP.
- Connecting to the net via a NetGear 802.11g router with full security (WPA, MAC address filtering, etc).
- Running Python (woohoo!)
- Mounting NFS volumes from a ReadyNAS server.
- Playing back AAC music files from MMC and network mounts.
- Downloading RealVideo to the MMC card and playing it back. Comes out a little pixellated, but otherwise worked.
- Playing streaming audio from a SlimServer box and controlling the server via browser.
- Installing a bunch of prebuilt Slackware-ARM shell tools like korn-shell (courtesy of http://vidar.gimp.org/n770/slackware.phpx).

Things that would be cool to see run on the 770:

- More Python libraries (like networking and wxWidget).
- Flash player higher than version 6.
- Skype.
- GPS, scanner, IR, webcam, camera, and printer (ok, kidding).

This is one of the coolest gadgets I've ever played with. It's got a long way to go before it's consumer-ready (by which I mean, iPod level ease-of-use) but for techie types, it's great.

[psychoboogie]

just got mine too.

what would be sweet is a port of synergy. so I could have it on the pedestal and use my desktop keyboard. anybody know if that is in the works.

[gesteves]

What I have:
X Terminal
Gaim
GPE PIM Suite
A couple of episodes of The Simpsons

What I've tried:
Abiword: Didn't work. Couldn't open a single document properly.
Slimserver: Had a great time streaming music to the 770, and controlling the music playing on my other computers. I'm still trying to stream music from outside my network, though. Haven't had much luck with that.
Patiotunes: A web remote control for iTunes, works great on the 770.

What I want to try:
Thoughtfix's USB host methods.
VNC.

What I'd like to see:
Kismet, or some other network sniffer. With the range this thing has, it's just begging to be taken for a wardrive.

[saint gerald]

On my 770:
Alpha port of rdesktop...lets me use RDP and looks cool... ;-)

Where did you find this? Do you have a link? :)

[Hedgecore]

Gerald: I've seen screen caps and the last I heard it was unable to bring up the keyboard. I would imagine you could use it with a USB or Bluetooth keyboard for now but otherwise you can't get past the login screen. The VNC viewer was able to bring the KB up, hopefully the solution used there could be incorporated into the RDesktop code.

[penguinbait]

swap partition 25MB, on 1gb sandisk

Rdesktop, used .deb version with BT keyboard works great, I port would be nice to be able to start it from gui instead command line

Xterm and SSH, an obvious must have

nfsd portmap for mounting NFS

ncftp, great ftp client

telnet client

VNC

gpe-minibrowser some things work in here that don't work in opera

gnumeric spreadsheet

gaim instant messenger

vpnc, cicso vpn client clone, works great

xchat, irc client

evince doc viewer

Maemo Blocks, beats the tar out of xtris

I want NES SNES SEGA emulators !!!!! maybe a DS emulator (turn it sidways and split the screen) That would be cool, that would be really cool, someone needs to work on that

[Solace]

doom, xterm, gpe suite, nmap, etc... its a hackers plaything ;)

But i think the best thing thus far has been my little hack to get the built in email to support kontact csv lists... now i dont have to type everything in twice

[jaycee]

Where did you find this? Do you have a link? :)It's in the Maemo wiki Application Catalogue WIP.

jaycee

[champ]

Does anyone use there 770 as a wardriving device? I am interested to see what programs you have gotten to work under the 770. Please reply with any wardriving apps you have successfully working on your 770.

[JonFowler]

I have:

Become root. (for various reasons)

kbdd (serial bluetooth keyboard driver): to work with the Freedom keyboard. I did some scripts so that it is started from the menus. By the way, you need to use the "smartbt" profile, and it was a real pain finding this out.

FBreader: I am going to try Ebook reading. I have no experience of this, will see how it goes.

Nethack: I allways load Nethack on any device I can - simply the best computer game ever. I miss text mode though.

oggplay: why pay Fraunhoffer?

xterm: for editing configuration scripts and moving items around the menus.

tnftp: for getting stuff when I have no USB cable.

vim: god I hate modal editors, when can we get a GUI text editor which can see all the filesystem, or even a filesystem manager which can see all the filesystem? :s/hate/really hate/p

vncviewer: Because it is the only way to do stuff on my server.

Hardware:
1Gb RS-MMC card (san disk because it was the cheapest)

Bluetooth keyboard. Freedom Bluetooth one (again because it was the cheapest, with hindsight, you should get a Kb which supports the Kb HID profile.

I tried the nfs mount hack, but this ran way too slow, so I am now using the Slimserver thing for music access, but it is still not good. We need a better mechanism for streaming content off windows servers.

Hope this helps

Jon

[ElGatoFlojo]

Any chance of sharing those scripts? I have a few I've done but its a kludge at best. I have to reset the 770 when I'm done using the keyboard.


I have:

kbdd (serial bluetooth keyboard driver): to work with the Freedom keyboard. I did some scripts so that it is started from the menus. By the way, you need to use the "smartbt" profile, and it was a real pain finding this out.

Jon

[JonFowler]

Any chance of sharing those scripts? I have a few I've done but its a kludge at best. I have to reset the 770 when I'm done using the keyboard.

When I am back at home with my 770 I will post a how-to here.

Jon

[JonFowler]

How to get Freedom Bluetooth Keyboard to work using kbdd driven from the menus rather than command line.

It is assumed that you have access to root.

Note: I am concerned that you say you have to reset the 770 when you finish using the keyboard. Running the btkbd script again should disconnect the keyboard. It certainly does for me.

Anyway:

using the kbdd daemon from http://fanoush.webpark.cz/maemo/

Install the kbdd software as described in the readme, using the "smartbt" keyboard profile as mentioned.

edit the btkbd script file, add a "sleep 1" command after the "rfcomm bind" command. This is not strictly necessary, but seems to make it work more reliably on my system.

My install of kbdd is in /home/user/kbdd

create a script file to run the btkbd script. Mine is called:

/home/user/btkboard

with a single line:
****
sudo /home/user/kbdd/btkbd
****
permissions rw,r,r owned by root

add a line to /etc/sudoers as follows:

user ALL = NOPASSWD: /home/user/kbdd/btkbd

Create a script file to run the script from the menus. mine is:

/etc/others-menu/1400_tana_fi_utilities/0400_KEYBOARD.desktop

contents 5 lines:
****
[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Name=Bluetooth KB
Exec=/home/user/btkboard
Terminal=false
****
Permissions rw,r,r owner and group root.

Hope this helps, do not do this unless you are confident about editing the sudoers file, I think that is the only thing here which can do any damage.

Jon

[ilblog]

Hi. I have a couple of aplications, but here is what I really miss on my N770. I think these applications would far more usefull then a lot of games, and password sniffing utils ported for N770.

* ZIP and RAR archiver

* SMB client in order to connect disk on Windows network

* Good email client

* Java virtual machine

* Video player, that will be able play PSP format videos (there is tons of videos formated for PSP)

* Emulators of Gameboy, ZX Spectrum or other popular gaming system (there is a lot of games fore these systems)

[jayholler]

What I have:
X Terminal
Gaim
GPE PIM Suite
A couple of episodes of The Simpsons

What I've tried:
Abiword: Didn't work. Couldn't open a single document properly.
Slimserver: Had a great time streaming music to the 770, and controlling the music playing on my other computers. I'm still trying to stream music from outside my network, though. Haven't had much luck with that.
Patiotunes: A web remote control for iTunes, works great on the 770.

What I want to try:
Thoughtfix's USB host methods.
VNC.

What I'd like to see:
Kismet, or some other network sniffer. With the range this thing has, it's just begging to be taken for a wardrive.

i went to the official patiotunes site and only saw osx and win versions. how do you run it on the 770? is it the kind of thing where you run it on the host and then just browse there on the 770, like slimserver?

[chris111]

Is it possible to get a smooth integration to add newsfeed from a internet url site. e.g. if you select adding newsfeed you can autmatically search in internet für rss sites.
same solution is convinient for Internet radio and so on

Its is not very intutiv to select and mark internet site first and denn copy it thourh an not very visible Test input.

[rattis]

I've installed the following:
cli:
xterm - because I need command line and root access
bash - because I like bash.
vim - (soon to be installed anyway) need a text editor to get somethings to work with the way I installed them. (dpkg when ever possible).

networking - because I'm a network analyst and bought this to be used as a tool
open-ssh - because what good is linux with out it?
bind (dig, whois) sometimes I need more information than just a domain or ip address.
iputils - to ping and trace of course.
wireless tools - required for a tool below.
dsniff - haven't used it yet, but I wanted a sniffer (which goes with the next tool)
kismetWIP - used for war walking at work to track down rogue wireless acess points. The sniffer goes with this incase I can't track it down, to pull the data going over the wireless link to get the person's work id.
nmap - used to check for open ports on the network. goes back to network analyss.

gui:
load monitor - seemed cool.
dejaPIM - it's replacing my palm as my orginizer.
maemo-xchat - its good to talk to friends.
mameo-gaim - see above (both are done outside of work).

[MillionDollar]

* Good email client
is all I really need it for

[henness]

I've installed the following:
<snip>
iputils - to ping and trace of course.
<snip>

where can i find that package. i sooooo need a ping util on my 770.

[fredoll]

I've installed the following:
cli:
xterm - because I need command line and root access

networking:
open-ssh - because what good is linux with out it?

gui:
load monitor
GPE PIM
maemo-mapper
phoneLink (I wrote it ;) )
Tuner (to help the kids tune their instruments)
Maemo Recorder : it's fun !
Password Safe : it's my memory
File Manager : quicker alternative
FBReader : ebooks

Games : you never know ;)

[rattis]

where can i find that package. i sooooo need a ping util on my 770.

That was the 2005 client. Where ping was acutally available without useless other crap.

In 2006 you have to get "busybox with ipv6,iproute,netcat,ping,ping6,telnet,traceroute and wget" and when you try to install it, the system screams about needing an ip6 kernel. It's a pain really. I don't want IP6, don't needed it, and don't plan on using it anytime soon. Go to the application catalog on www.maemo.org

[henness]

That was the 2005 client. Where ping was acutally available without useless other crap.

In 2006 you have to get "busybox with ipv6,iproute,netcat,ping,ping6,telnet,traceroute and wget" and when you try to install it, the system screams about needing an ip6 kernel. It's a pain really. I don't want IP6, don't needed it, and don't plan on using it anytime soon. Go to the application catalog on www.maemo.org

well i did find that enhanced busybox and was able to install it w/ no problem. no error messages, and ping works now. can't believe someone would release a network device w/ no built in ping.

[Texrat]

The main thing I installed was a VPN tool to let me inside a corporate intranet. That thing was a lifesaver.

If Application Manager didn't give me such fits, I'd be 100% happy with the 770. It does what it's designed to do.

[EddieNYC]

Since you asked :) and its an N800...

Media Streamer -
VNC - First non-Nokia app downloaded. It works.
Nako - First Nokia app downloaded.
MaemoPad - Rather than learn VI. Didn't help with the omni.ini file. Learning VI.
GAIM - What I needed to begin with.

[Karel Jansens]

Since you asked :) and its an N800...

Media Streamer -
VNC - First non-Nokia app downloaded. It works.
Nako - First Nokia app downloaded.
MaemoPad - Rather than learn VI. Didn't help with the omni.ini file. Learning VI.
GAIM - What I needed to begin with.

If you only occasionally need to edit text and configuration files, mc (Midnight Commander) might be a good option. It's basically a file manager with a.o. an embedded simple and easy editor.

Don't forget that you need to install Xterm first and that mc doesn't show up on the sidebar of installed applications: it's started by typing "mc" in Xterm.

[EddieNYC]

Thanks - MC looks great. This is it!

Time to surf!

[Karel Jansens]

Thanks - MC looks great. This is it!

Time to surf!

Feel free to ask if stuff doesn't seem to work. For one thing: Only the "enter" key on the virtual keyboard/HWR window works as an enter key; the center D-pad key only brings up the keyboard.

Also, at normal zoom level, the option to quit mc is hidden to the right. Zoom back to 80% and it automagically appears (if you're too lazy, just hit the "x" of the Xterminal window; it shouldn't normally do any harm. Obviously, if your N800 does explode, I didn't write this. It was my evil twin).

[CelticDaddio]

How do you do this?

- dropbear ssh (I use this all the time in order to use my desktop keyboard!)

[kahmeal]

Install dropbear, use a client like putty on your windows machine to SSH into the nokia and there you go, you're using your desktop keyboard ;)

[CelticDaddio]

Where can I find the following? I googled it, but only got 2 hits, one of which was your post.

Ed

I've installed the following:

kismetWIP - used for war walking at work to track down rogue wireless acess points. The sniffer goes with this incase I can't track it down, to pull the data going over the wireless link to get the person's work id.

[Ego Brain]

Извините , но я не нашол темы для новичков , поэтому решил воспользоваться этой . Можете мне ответить на такие вопросы : насколько полноценной является linux для Nokia 770 , возможна ли установка приложений с "полноценного" компьютерного linux на Nokia 770 или єти приложения требуют компиляции , возможно ли както разогнать процессор Nokia 770 ? И как обстоят дела с mp3 плеером на Nokia 770 , я слішал что он плохого качества ?!

[Slakker]

Um...translate, please.

Kthxbye.

[Ego Brain]

Translated by programm :
Sorry, but i not seek subject for beginners, so decided to use this.
You can answer to me on such problems: how much full-fledged is linux for Nokia 770, installation of appendices is possible with "full-fledged" computer linux on Nokia 770 or є ти requires appendices to compilation, it is possible както to disperse processor of Nokia 770?
And how businesses are with mp3 with player on Nokia 770, i heared that he bad quality?!

[Slakker]

I can answer your question about the mp3 player: It's fine. Even the standard audio player running off of the 64mb card that ships with the unit plays mp3's flawlessly for me. It would be a bonus if it had a simple equalizer, but it sounds decent without it.

I'm not sure what you're asking with your other question...sorry!

[Ego Brain]

ЫЫЫЫЫЫ... sorry for my english ( i hate it learned at school ) . Is it possible to start Linux application on Nokia 770 without convertation , overlock CPU ? b/\ять

[Slakker]

A lot of Linux programs have already been ported over to the 770. Check out this page (http://maemo.org/downloads/) to see if the stuff you're looking for has already been moved over :)

[old_old_7]

VNC,so I can remote control my pc
Omweather, to decide which surrounding city is sunny then go
Radio, listen to the raido station in my language
Pindin internet messenger,keep contect with my friend
Gtalk, voice talk with my family member from Ottawa, Toronto,HK,China.(they all have a 770)
What I am looking for is a program with loop slide show,so it can act as a digital frame.(Any one know is there such a program?)Canola just stop at the end of the photo !

[sully]

What I am looking for is a program with loop slide show,so it can act as a digital frame. (Any one know is there such a program?) Canola just stop at the end of the photo!

I keep meaning to ask about the same thing. Anyone got a program that'll do this?

[Jetsetwilly]

Yep, try Quiver. http://maemo.org/downloads/product/quiver/

[dep]

1. Gaim: for chat on AIM/IRC
2. CPU/Mem/Screenshot applet: for system monitoring
3. VNC Viewer: For accessing machines remotely
4. Xterm: For random stuff.

[Jaffa Cakes!]

LXDoom
Crazyparking
Battle Gweled - This and above 2, must have some sort of fun :)
Media Streamer - For streaming from mine, dads PC and Media Server
Mweather - Easily see the weather
Xterminal - I like to have some command line control on Linux
UKTUBE - Watch YouTube videos, haven't worked it out yet
UKMP Dark - For Media
VNC Viewer - For accessing my PC/Server
MPlayer - Media

Mostly just playing around at the moment :)

[Dean]

For me a big selling point was the USB hosting. I got a Canon camera for it's great movie mode (as well as an underwater housing). It's great to travel light and having just one camera that can shoot video (which I use a lot) as well as decent stills AND go underwater is just great. But video eats up a lot of memory. The 4 gig card holds about half an hour. Fine for a day or two but on a long trip you need more. Yes I could just stock up on memory cards but better to have some way to offload the pictures to a portable USB hard drive. I'm planning to use the 770 for this.

Oh yes and make phone calls with Gizmo while traveling, internet/web mail to.

It's funny though it seems like USB hosting does not get that much attention. I cannot for the life of me figure out why Nokia does not provide this feature without making us hack the device to get it. And so few PDAs have it (Toshiba is one of the few). Half the people at work have a thumb drive in their pocket so you would think people would be screaming for this feature in their portable devices yet it seems like those that want it are a minority. Imagine you have a file on your thumb drive that you want to give to a friend you met at lunch (too big for e-mail). He has his thumb drive, or even his PDA, with him but how do you transfer? Without host mode that thumb drive is useless. Put another way, would you buy a desktop without host mode?

[Vonsaku]

Just bought 770, i will install it to replace my carstereo/nav system.

Firstly i needed proper GPS, secondly good quality wireless soundtransfer to cars music system, i tought that 770 would be up for the job easilly...
Now that i have studiet little, seems that nobody has really ran trough
A2DP:connectivity with 770.

So for small price this would of been car stereo, GPS device, lazy guys solution to throw music trough wlan directly in the car.
(Wont bother to mention about FM-transmitters for audio, theyr all crap what i have tested so far, sound quality isnt up for the rest of the system).

Think ill need to learn to do some coding to get this together.

If i dont get this to work right, then i make some sort of help device to analyze images out of it.

[trin20t]

Yes, I spotted another post someplace suggesting it; works really well; no problems with the browser hanging or the player not launching. Need to edit the names of streams saved to favorites but not that big of an issue. I was trying Live365 and it was frsutrating - it insists on opening another browser window and I was having about a 50% success rate getting the stream to load and play. In contrast, shoutcast is 100%. Recommended.

And my 1GB Sandisk rs-mmc from Buy.com arrived today. :D Going to split it into swap, a vfat partition for moving data and files over usb, and a big ext2fs partition for everything else.


1.fm,Sky.fm,and DI.fm work too!

[trin20t]

My 770 is a back-up mini computer/entertainment piece to compliment my aging eMac G4.
Both are running Open-Source stuff,so the 770 is well complimented!

What's on mine? Lets see...

Games:

The standard plus Battlegweled,Blocks, and Tux Puck.
I like puzzlers.

Blogging: Mauku and Wordpy

I have many blogs,and both help me update Twitter and Blogger.

IM/VOIP: Gizmo5

Gizmo is a better IM client than Pidgin IMHO.
It's more reliable and has similar features when setup for IM.

Utilities: Maemo Recorder

Fun for voice recordings!

X Terminal and MWeather

For scripting and for local weather data. OWeather crashes. MWeather works great!

Music: Vagalume,Canola2,basic Audio Player,and Kagu

I adore music. I am addicted to Last.fm radio. Vagalume and Canola2's Last.fm plugin work great!
Kagu is the most reliable music jukebox on the 770.

Video: MPlayer,Canola2,And the basic Video Player

MPlayer plays my MPeg4's. Video Player plays my AVI's.

Photo: Quiver,Mirage,MH Shot tool,and Fickr browser

MH Shoot tool makes good screnshots.
Quiver is not bad. Mirage is faster.
Flickr browser is must-have.

Browser: Opera 8 and MicroB

Opera 8 is faster. It still loads like 50 percent of sites out there.
MicroB is for the other 45 percent of sites. Crashes and all!
I disabled the plugins for MicroB,and it flies!

I use a cheap 1 gig MMC Media card I got from Dealextreme for $4!
Works well and came with an adapter.
64mb of VM set,and the rest is for files!