The EPIC N9 anticipation thread

[zymo]

Ok, I'm not totally awake yet, so please correct me if my logic is off, but if i take the word clock from the n900 screen, it's 38 pixels wide. This means it fits 12.6315789 times on a 480px screen.

When i then measure the width of the n950 screen on the screencap, and take the black borders in account, i get something like 1120px wide, and 76px for the word Clock, meaning that it would fit 14.73 times on that screen.

Multiplying 38px with 14.7368421 gives me 560px, so I'm leaning more to qHD, and thus 960*540.

I count 479px for the N900 and

1221px for the n9!??!

And here is a close up of the V

[Brock]

if someone want to watch the teaser again, here it isnt removed yet

http://www.metatube.com/en/videos/60014/Nokia-N9-Teaser-Advertisement/

remembering the first teaser for the N9?
http://www.viddler.com/explore/engadget/videos/1515/
(the button/Logo on the left side of the keyboard is missing in the new teaser)


Edit

found the actual teaser back at youtube...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8Tiua4BNQo

Edit2

i have downloaded it now in 1080p... if someone wants it, just tell it, i can send you a link for the download :)

[NOMOS]

So I did some work in Photoshop just now, and in my largest close up possible the ratio between the width of the V and the full width of the screen, including bezel is ~ 1:80. So, I don't quite see how this is 720 p yet unless that V is 9 pixels wide at least.

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9324/screenshot20110519at121.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/821/screenshot20110519at121.png/)

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[chemist]

another if the nokia removes it again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qLdUa9f4Uw
to have the barbara streisand with me...

[sjgadsby]

I'm not fussed about the political fighting over whether it's "real" meego or not.

I should think that if Nokia is announcing a device at the MeeGo Conference, the software on that device is officially MeeGo. I expect Intel would go through the roof otherwise.

So, it may be that the next Nokia device runs "a revised Harmattan with MeeGo compatibility layers and an exception granted by the MeeGo TSB", but if so, that official exception means the software stack has been accepted and stamped as officially MeeGo. There will still be debates over the software's pedigree, sure, but it'll have its papers.

[Faustino]

The meltdowns on this forum will be amusing if it actually turns out to be Anna..

I've played with the N8 and the phone i saw the other day was much quicker.. there's no way it could be Symbian.. right?

[godofwar424]

I should think that if Nokia is announcing a device at the MeeGo Conference, the software on that device is officially MeeGo. I expect Intel would go through the roof otherwise.

So, it may be that the next Nokia device runs "a revised Harmattan with MeeGo compatibility layers and an exception granted by the MeeGo TSB", but if so, that official exception means the software stack has been accepted and stamped as officially MeeGo. There will still be debates over the software's pedigree, sure, but it'll have its papers.

The multitasking was WAAAYY to Maemo like to be Symbian.

The only similarity is that it uses the same Icons as Symbian Anna.

Symbian Anna has already been demoed and its NOTHING like this. This is a completely different OS. You can tell by the way the interface works in that video :)

[__-_-_-__]

it disappoints me a lot...
-no oled display
-no fm transmitter
-no infrared
-only 5MP camera
-no 1080p recording
-only 512mb ram
-no dual-core cpu
-no 4G

sounds like a different E7 edition... E7 has 8Mp camera vs 5MP, amoled display vs TFT.
N9 has 64gb internal memory vs 32gb. it has a micro sdhc slot and a 480X800 screen vs 360X640 E7.
yeah really big differences.... -.-"
imo N9 it will be windows mobile :(

[generationally]

I should think that if Nokia is announcing a device at the MeeGo Conference, the software on that device is officially MeeGo. I expect Intel would go through the roof otherwise.

So, it may be that the next Nokia device runs "a revised Harmattan with MeeGo compatibility layers and an exception granted by the MeeGo TSB", but if so, that official exception means the software stack has been accepted and stamped as officially MeeGo. There will still be debates over the software's pedigree, sure, but it'll have its papers.

You have a good point. Intel and the whole MeeGo ecosystem cannot afford to have devices that are 'sort of MeeGo compatible'. So because of that I don't think that there will be any Nokia device running 'a revised Harmattan with MeeGo compatibility layers' announced at the MeeGo conference.

Not a commercial one and and not one for developers. Those announcements will have to happen somewhere else unless of course those devices are announced with vanilla MeeGo and not with Harmattan (which I very much doubt). So I don't have high hopes of seeing any new Nokia devices at the conference despite the timing of the leaked video and FCC documents :( Maybe after the conference?

[tissot]

Hrm we don't know the specs, we haven't maybe even seen the consumer device yet and it got 12mpx camera like the picture shows...

[zehjotkah]

it disappoints me a lot...
-no oled display
-no fm transmitter
-no infrared
-only 5MP camera
-no 1080p recording
-only 512mb ram
-no dual-core cpu
-no 4G

sounds like a different E7 edition... E7 has 8Mp camera vs 5MP, amoled display vs TFT.
N9 has 64gb internal memory vs 32gb. it has a micro sdhc slot and a 480X800 screen vs 360X640 E7.
yeah really big differences.... -.-"
imo N9 it will be windows mobile :(

??? what pills are you taking?
I've fixed that for you...
- Clear Black Display
- we don't know yet
- we don't know yet - but probably not..
- 12MP
- 720p, 30fps recording
- we don't know yet
- we don't know yet, but probably not
- hexaband is not enough?
- maybe 1280x720
- there is no windows mobile anymore, there is windows phone, and no, it is MeeGo/Harmattan

[EIPI]

I should think that if Nokia is announcing a device at the MeeGo Conference, the software on that device is officially MeeGo. I expect Intel would go through the roof otherwise.

So, it may be that the next Nokia device runs "a revised Harmattan with MeeGo compatibility layers and an exception granted by the MeeGo TSB", but if so, that official exception means the software stack has been accepted and stamped as officially MeeGo. There will still be debates over the software's pedigree, sure, but it'll have its papers.

So IF the new device is announced next week in SF AND is given out to the MeeGoConf attendees, I am of the opinion that it will have MeeGo 1.2 installed for conference attendees. I believe the devel and consumer devices are the same, and that the devel devices will be allowed to flow between DRM and non-DRM worlds, while consumer devices will not (via some IMEI magic).

[Brock]

it disappoints me a lot...
-no oled display
-no fm transmitter
-no infrared
-only 5MP camera
-no 1080p recording
-only 512mb ram
-no dual-core cpu
-no 4G

sounds like a different E7 edition... E7 has 8Mp camera vs 5MP, amoled display vs TFT.
N9 has 64gb internal memory vs 32gb. it has a micro sdhc slot and a 480X800 screen vs 360X640 E7.
yeah really big differences.... -.-"
imo N9 it will be windows mobile :(

lol

if you have your informations from this source (http://www.maemo.ch/n9-1280720-bildschirmauflosung/1958/) thats from august 2010... so very old news...

[tissot]

lol

if you have your informations from this source (http://www.maemo.ch/n9-1280720-bildschirmauflosung/1958/) thats from august 2010... so very old news...

And even if it would be new it's a rumor!
Only specs that got some weight behind it are 1200mah battery(from FCC), ~4" screen, 12mpx AF camera, 4 row keyboard(from the teaser video).

[Brock]

- there is no windows mobile anymore, there is windows phone, and no, it is MeeGo/Harmattan

let me correct you...
here are the sales of both systems for the 1st quarter 2011:
win mobile: 2 million
win phone 7: 1.6 million
total: 3.6 million

very poor... :D

source:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/19/gartner-1-6-million-windows-phone-7-devices-sold-in-q1-consume/

[Brock]

And even if it would be new it's a rumor!
Only specs that got some weight behind it are 1200mah battery(from FFC), ~4" screen, 12mpx AF camera, 4 row keyboard(from the teaser video).

yes

and dont forget the best about it

meego by nokia :D

[onethreealpha]

I should think that if Nokia is announcing a device at the MeeGo Conference, the software on that device is officially MeeGo. I expect Intel would go through the roof otherwise.

So, it may be that the next Nokia device runs "a revised Harmattan with MeeGo compatibility layers and an exception granted by the MeeGo TSB", but if so, that official exception means the software stack has been accepted and stamped as officially MeeGo. There will still be debates over the software's pedigree, sure, but it'll have its papers.

I guess I can look at it both ways:
As a consumer looking for my next device, I can step away from the political and philosophical arguments and look purely from a perspective of "does it give me what i want?" and "what has the Meego Project got to offer me in the way of a handset NOW?" Being fortunate enough to be able to afford Harmattan now and Meego later if it produces a suitable device for my needs/wants.

As a user (and supporter) of F/OSS I can see yet another corporation trying to leverage an open source design to increase their own profit margins (albeit giving back to the hand that feeds it in a pretty big way too), and happy to label something that isn't quite "kosher" in the eyes of many, as Meego.

The arguments are valid and compliance is as simple as measuring against a set of defined benchmarks, and yet this also fails to recognise the organic nature of today's open source community and the myriad different ways in which clever and innovative people can implement systems based on a common kernel; Linux

To me, there is a whiff of similarity to the many arguments and expressions of anger that were going around at the time the original (sic) Linux kernel was developed and released. Unix/Minix people were making a lot of noise about bastardisation and Linux not being "real". The likes of BeOS and SCO were making noises on the corporate front.

We need to remember that whilst individuals may work on Meego (and F/OSS projects) with the most utopian and altruistic motives, the big companies that are supporting them are doing so with a vested commercial interest - making more money than the other guys.

It's not a big leap to see Nokia going further up the tree and marketing their device as Linux with Meego compatibility. Enough to placate the likes of Intel and still get a foot in the door at the Meego conference (and ride the wave)

just my .02:)

sorry, drifted a bit there. I blame it on the glass of wine with dinner.

[daperl]

-no dual-core cpu

- we don't know yet, but probably not

:( Very :(

[Brock]

:( Very :(

i still hope it will have ST-E U8500 :)

[EvilSpeaks]

I see the screen resolution topic of this phone i.e. is it 1280x720 or not has made it to "mynokiablog"

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/05/19/rumours-nokia-n9-to-have-1280x720-4-720p-hd-screen-367ppiretina/

[zehjotkah]

let me correct you...
here are the sales of both systems for the 1st quarter 2011:
win mobile: 2 million
win phone 7: 1.6 million
total: 3.6 million

very poor... :D

source:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/19/gartner-1-6-million-windows-phone-7-devices-sold-in-q1-consume/

:D very poor indeed.
okay... windows mobile won't be installed on new devices...

[zymo]

??? what pills are you taking?
I've fixed that for you...
- Clear Black Display
- we don't know yet
- we don't know yet - but probably not..
- 12MP
- 720p, 30fps recording
......

seems to indicate that we won’t see a A9 CPU in the N-whatever

[Brock]

I see the screen resolution topic of this phone i.e. is it 1280x720 or not has made it to "mynokiablog"

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/05/19/rumours-nokia-n9-to-have-1280x720-4-720p-hd-screen-367ppiretina/

i have send the link of the toshiba article to a german it news site (heise.de) and they told me that one of their journalists are at the SID and will try to find more information about it. Now i have informed them about the rumor at mynokiablog, maybe they can find out more there... i hope they will inform me asap...

[tissot]

i still hope it will have ST-E U8500 :)

As long as we talk about RM-680 it's mailing lists are still, just like 7 months ago controlled by TI and Nokia workers. So the OMAP36xx still looks the most likely candidate imo, unfortunately.
Same goes for lankku if that's the device meant for public.

[__-_-_-__]

??? what pills are you taking?
I've fixed that for you...
- Clear Black Display
- we don't know yet
- we don't know yet - but probably not..
- 12MP
- 720p, 30fps recording
- we don't know yet
- we don't know yet, but probably not
- hexaband is not enough?
- maybe 1280x720
- there is no windows mobile anymore, there is windows phone, and no, it is MeeGo/Harmattan
- hexaband is not enough? nope
so... an E7 with micro sdhc card slot, better screen and better camera?

seems to indicate that we won’t see a A9 CPU in the N-whatever
nokia has a tradition to always use the same cpu's for several phones for a long time. sometimes they even use dual cpu's.

[EvilSpeaks]

i have send the link of the toshiba article to a german it news site (heise.de) and they told me that one of their journalists are at the SID and will try to find more information about it. Now i have informed them about the rumor at mynokiablog, maybe they can find out more there... i hope they will inform me asap...

Please let us (Community)know ASAP if you get any information!!!
Thanks

[tissot]

- hexaband is not enough? nope
so... an E7 with micro sdhc card slot, better screen and better camera?
plus better CPU
Well iphone 4 is just a Nokia 1100 with better screen, SOC and better camera. :D

[Brock]

Please let us (Community)know ASAP if you get any information!!!
Thanks

thats for sure :)

[zehjotkah]

I see the screen resolution topic of this phone i.e. is it 1280x720 or not has made it to "mynokiablog"

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/05/19/rumours-nokia-n9-to-have-1280x720-4-720p-hd-screen-367ppiretina/

If they would only write my nickname with a minor "z" as in zehjotkah... Not Zehjotkah..
xD Yes! That's important! Who cares about the screen resolution?!
BTW: still no evidence...

[Helmuth]

so... an E7 with micro sdhc card slot, better screen and better camera?

And a different CPU, GPU platform, different casing... but only if your talking about hardware. In my opinion the OS and Software does REALLY matter. And this makes the difference.

If it would only be about Hardware and stuff I had already bought a Windows, Android or a Fruit-Phone from Apple.

But I wan't to really use the Device instead of having only some penis length comparison Device to impress clueless dudes...

[Helmuth]

If they would only write my nickname with a minor "z" as in zehjotkah... Not Zehjotkah..

Perhaps it's only because it is at the beginning of a sentence... ;)

[jakiman]

so... an E7 with micro sdhc card slot, better screen and better camera?

nokia has a tradition to always use the same cpu's for several phones for a long time. sometimes they even use dual cpu's.

Umm... No... It's more like E7 with better everything including OS.
Also, N900 used a CPU which was never used by any other Nokia. (well, afaik)
That was back in 2009 and it is still holding up quite well actually.
So I really hope N9 @ 2011 will have something much better. (OMAP4?)
(coz my ARM Cortex A8 CPU in my N900 runs at 1.1Ghz already)

@zehjotkah - Can I ask a few questions? (you can answer only those that you can/want to :p)

1. Will it support CJK hw keyboard input like the N900 using MSCIM?
2. Will it be able to play xvid avi files? What about h264 high profile 720p MKV files? I hate re-encoding..
3. What web browser will it have by default? Can MicroB be used on N9? (I really love its virtual mouse pointer)
4. Stereo speakers like N900?
5. Does it have xterminal with root access out of the box?
6. Does it have a physical camera shutter button?

[PMaff]

I totally understand. When I had to find a N900 replacement, I'd even buy the N900 again if I could find/afford it.


?
amazon.de has it.
http://www.amazon.de/Nokia-N900-Smartphone-Maemo-black/dp/tech-data/B002N2Z0MQ/ref=de_a_smtd
For £100 it won't be possible.

and so far I haven't judged it (The Blade) to be significantly better on ANY point, except price where it rocks. Oh, wait, it's also slimmer.

I am happy that the N900 is not that slim.
;-)

[daperl]

i still hope it will have ST-E U8500 :)

It's weird, because all I wanted was:

n900 + OMAP4 + compass - thickness

Sure, high res viewing and recording are nice, but it's about mobile power, and doing things that only a mobile device can do. It's not all about multi-media consumption.

[NvyUs]

this is all getting funny now :D:D:D:D
someonr just give a date then we can all go home till then

[tissot]

this is all getting funny now :D:D:D:D
someonr just give a date then we can all go home till then

There's nothing funny about this! Fun has ended long time ago.
It has been 14 months when the RM-680 first came up in a bug list. I'm being physically hurt by Nokia at this point. :D

[Brock]

There's nothing funny about this! Fun has ended long time ago.
It has been 14 months when the RM-680 first came up in a bug list. I'm being physically hurt by Nokia at this point. :D

the longer i wait for my new baby the more happy i am the day it arrives :)

[daperl]

this is all getting funny now :D:D:D:D
someonr just give a date then we can all go home till then

Relax, enjoy the ride. zman and others are leaking information; it's a treasure hunt.

[NvyUs]

I've had it confirmed by 3 people now there is two devices 2 Nokians and 1 who works close with Nokia,
zehjotkah as been saying this too even before the leak for last couple weeks, but people are still ignoring it and swear differently, but its I and zehjotkah who will laugh last :D:D:D:D:D:D

[marrat]

I've had it confirmed by 3 people now there is two devices 2 Nokians and 1 who works close with Nokia,
zehjotkah as been saying this too even before the leak for last couple weeks, but people are still ignoring it and swear differently, but its I and zehjotkah who will laugh last :D:D:D:D:D:D

However I understand the hints of zehjotkah in the way that both "developer" and "consumer" device will have QWERTY. You, however, are claiming, developer device with QWERTY, consumer device without...

Don't care who's right, I just need find a way to get the QWERTY one... :cool:

[NvyUs]

However I understand the hints of zehjotkah in the way that both "developer" and "consumer" device will have QWERTY. You, however, are claiming, developer device with QWERTY, consumer device without...

Don't care who's right, I just need find a way to get the QWERTY one... :cool:

yup and its true and I'm willing to talk to zehhjotkah in private how i know but not here publicly

[Brock]

I've had it confirmed by 3 people now there is two devices 2 Nokians and 1 who works close with Nokia,
zehjotkah as been saying this too even before the leak for last couple weeks, but people are still ignoring it and swear differently, but its I and zehjotkah who will laugh last :D:D:D:D:D:D

ok, but what will be the difference?

Will it have the same name, first model for developers and the second (with consumer firmware) for consumers <- like n900

or

will it be something like n9 and later n10, similar hardware but the second (laikku) without the keyboard?

and keep in mind that elop said that there will be one meego phone this year, not at least one...

[marrat]

ok, but what will be the difference?

Will it have the same name, first model for developers and the second (with consumer firmware) for consumers <- like n900

or

will it be something like n9 and later n10, similar hardware but the second without the keyboard?

and keep in mind that elop said that there will be one meego phone this year, not at least one...

The Elop statement would fit to the first option with "only" different firmwares...

[Brock]

yup and its true and I'm willing to talk to zehhjotkah in private how i know but not here publicly

ok, but then it would be the same with the n900, so we will still have only 1 phone, just some people will get it a little bit earlier then the whole rest

[NvyUs]

I know nothing about specs I've never claimed to Know that. All I know is the device in video is not the One people should be getting excited over and the Consumer device as no hardware KB

[xerxes2]

It looks like qgil's talk at MeeGo conf next week wasn't accepted.
http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sessions/harmattan-meego-community

So there may not be that much info from Nokia about Harmattan next week after all. Maybe it's Intel that turns up the heat? :D

Edit: Full schedule: http://sf2011.meego.com/program/session-schedule

[Brock]

I know nothing about specs I've never claimed to Know that. All I know is the device in video is not the One people should be getting excited over and the Consumer device as no hardware KB

how actual is your information?

[marrat]

how actual is your information?

As he just claimed to have talked to two Nokians and one person close to Nokia, one could assume that info is pretty up-to-date

[sjgadsby]

If Nokia releases a phone with higher screen resolution than the iPhone 4, does Engadget make a sound?

[Den in USA]

I know nothing about specs I've never claimed to Know that. All I know is the device in video is not the One people should be getting excited over and the Consumer device as no hardware KB

Are you saying that the N950 Meego NIT will not have a hardware keyboard?

[dtergens]

Don't believe at all this last info personaly, imho people will have choice with kb phone and kb less phone, and for the rest it will be exactly the same device. Ok that's just my hope :-)

[vvaz]

If Nokia releases a phone with higher screen resolution than the iPhone 4, does Engadget make a sound?

Only to bash it for:
- contrast in direct sunlight
- subpixels
- not supporting AdobeRGB
- doesn't bring world peace

v.

[dtergens]

If Nokia releases a phone with higher screen resolution than the iPhone 4, does Engadget make a sound?
Yeah, we need something like this to make THE BUZZ like never before :D

[mscion]

There's nothing funny about this! Fun has ended long time ago.
It has been 14 months when the RM-680 first came up in a bug list. I'm being physically hurt by Nokia at this point. :D

It's time for the maemo minions, armed with torches and pitchforks, to gather at the gates of Nokia headquarters and demand release of the N9!

[nikrohr]

check out the pics on www.nokiablog.ch

1280 x 720 - ~366ppi should be true....

N9 4''

http://www.nokiablog.ch/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Nokia-N9.jpg

E7 4''

http://www.nokiablog.ch/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Nokia-E7.jpg

[dtergens]

waow if that's true, they would take a step ahead of competitors, we have not seen it since long time, welcome back Nokia ! ^^

So if we repeat all rumor :

- OS sort of first handset meego built (with sort of anna icons pack)
- Maemo style multitasking best ever by Nokia lol
- 4" screen (or 4.1"/4.2") CBD 16:9 (clear black display like E7) maybe 1280x720
- capacitive screen multitouch
- 1200 mAh battery (write in FCC report)
- Qwerty keyboard 4 rows with nice slider-screen
- 12 mpx AF camera with double Led flash (without lens cover)
- 720p, 30fps recording
- Ovi/Nokia Maps full like symbian one

and we still don't know about :

- HDMI output ?
- FM transmitter ?
- compass ?
- USB Host ?
- IR port ?
- CPU ?
- RAM ?
- TV out cable ?
- SD card slot ?
- Video codecs ?
- HP sound ?
- Xterminal ?
- Microb browser ?
- Microsoft XBox games ? :D

What else ?

[erendorn]

If that's true this phone will have a higher resolution than the netbook I bought a month ago...

Maybe a higher pricetag too!

[qwazix]

plus better CPU
Well iphone 4 is just a Nokia 1100 with better screen, SOC and better camera. :D

nah, the iphone doesn't have a flashlight
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[cjp]

Two things that I think aren't being addressed here:

1. Why make a promotional video with this budget, if the device is meant for developers only. Just show devs a specsheet, show them a powerpoint about how easy it will be to make apps and make a few dollars on the platform. Then just toss them devices at Nokia World for example. I don't think there's any point making such an elaborate video for devs only.

2. Why are we sure that the screen images aren't simulated? We see the screen from a multitude of angles, but I think its still plausible. The N900 video sure had simulated screens and we've seen them in smartphone ads before. This means that they could've put anything on the screen, and in reality have no software together to show anywhere on any device.

My two cents. Oh and guys, be more clear about your sources please. If you can't say, don't say anything at all.

[Jedibeeftrix]

i would hope this does have a dual-core (said as music stutters on his n900 from loading webpages), not least because newer dual-core designs will have a stronger gpu.............. needed for this higher resolution screen!

p.s. is this camera different from the n8 camera, and if so is it because it is a af rather than edopf camera?

cheers

[IcyMoustache]

It looks like qgil's talk at MeeGo conf next week wasn't accepted.
http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sessions/harmattan-meego-community

So there may not be that much info from Nokia about Harmattan next week after all. Maybe it's Intel that turns up the heat? :D

Edit: Full schedule: http://sf2011.meego.com/program/session-schedule




Quim's presentation is rejected!!!?! Is this a snub to Nokia by Intel???

[eMiL]

i would hope this does have a dual-core (said as music stutters on his n900 from loading webpages), not least because newer dual-core designs will have a stronger gpu.............. needed for this higher resolution screen!

p.s. is this camera different from the n8 camera, and if so is it because it is a af rather than edopf camera?

cheers

N8 has AF camera!

[chemist]

it disappoints me a lot...
-no oled display
-no fm transmitter
-no infrared
-only 5MP camera
-no 1080p recording
-only 512mb ram
-no dual-core cpu
-no 4G


Just nuts, especially on the 4G part, there is no real 4G yet, what carriers claim to be 4G they provide is nothing like 4G.

...
So if we repeat all rumor :
...
- OS sort of first handset meego built (with sort of anna icons pack)
- Ovi/Nokia Maps full like symbian one
...
and we still don't know about :
...
- Video codecs ?
...

It is only branded meego but the software is maemoX+meego compatibility stack.
Where did you get the full OviMaps from...?
Video codecs? You have no clue about linux do you?

I should grab some popcorn...
You guys start to behave like little children just before x-mas...

[ironm8]

I fail to see the excitement about having a nHD resolution..as if guys here are clinging to the less importent stuff that seems to overshadow this N9/50.
I agree that having a nHD resolution phone FIRST(i find it a gimmick) would be awesome. but to be honest the N900 screen is satisfying in my mind, as it responsive and works ok under sunlight. I also figure that a huge resolution will require a top notch graphics chip plus a neafty battery which by the FCC seems to be somewhat small(1200?). We know that the camera would be awesome, but i think i'm not the only one that it doesnt matter to him.

However, we have to look at the other presumable specs.
For example, if it doesnt have hardware keyboard you can count me out. We also know that Meego is far from being ready.
if the story about the RM-680 being that device, then it will have quite outdated components..i can already see Nokia getting slammed for it and their brand name will get worst...

I am not rulling out buying one, but i wont buy anything for a year from now so all im saying is to wait and also focus on the important things.

[tissot]

Two things that I think aren't being addressed here:

1. Why make a promotional video with this budget, if the device is meant for developers only. Just show devs a specsheet, show them a powerpoint about how easy it will be to make apps and make a few dollars on the platform. Then just toss them devices at Nokia World for example. I don't think there's any point making such an elaborate video for devs only.

2. Why are we sure that the screen images aren't simulated? We see the screen from a multitude of angles, but I think its still plausible. The N900 video sure had simulated screens and we've seen them in smartphone ads before. This means that they could've put anything on the screen, and in reality have no software together to show anywhere on any device.

My two cents. Oh and guys, be more clear about your sources please. If you can't say, don't say anything at all.
1.
History of the RM-680 is old, really old. http://nokiagadgets.com/?p=663
There has happened lots of stuff between and that ad(that's not offically from a Nokia source) could just as well be from last year when previously first MeeGo device was supposed to be seen.

2.
Totally agree. Especially thinking if this teaser, ad is very old the possibilities for that are even higher. So far i'm not letting myself to get hyped about reso from a ad screencaps.

[NvyUs]

is'nt nHD Nokias 640*360 screens? you guys are really mixing up the terminology in this thread, I'm confused :confused:

[dtergens]

It is only branded meego but the software is maemoX+meego compatibility stack.
Where did you get the full OviMaps from...?
Video codecs? You have no clue about linux do you?

I should grab some popcorn...
You guys start to behave like little children just before x-mas...
Where did you get this software info ? lol
1. Do you mean formally that this device will receive all meego release update in the future ?
2. Ovi Maps information has been done by our friend zehjotkah.
3. yes I'm a linux noob and so... not a nokia noob
4. All people on this thread is looking for his next & new toy, aren't you ? \o/

[wmarone]

1. Do you mean formally that this device will receive all meego release update in the future ?
No, his point is that it is Not Quite MeeGo. So it is probably dependent on Nokia for updates until a pure MeeGo based stack can be built for it (which will probably happen.)

[dtergens]

Thanks for this clear answer wmarone, that's for me the essential condition for buy or not this device.

[evan]

about the mystery device..
http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/05/19/future-devices-and-innovation-at-nokia/
We can’t wait to show you more –
I can't wait either

[marrat]

about the mystery device..
http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/05/19/future-devices-and-innovation-at-nokia/
We can’t wait to show you more –
I can't wait either

Oh yesssssssssss! :eek:

[AndyNokia232]

about the mystery device..
http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/05/19/future-devices-and-innovation-at-nokia/
We can’t wait to show you more –
I can't wait either

Ha! You beat me to it. I see Jon Reece from the N900 promo made a comment ;)

What about this theory: the E7 and N8 (apart from a few obvious differences) are almost the same model. One with a keyboard, one without, but essentially very similar looking devices.

Could it be that the rumors of 2 new devices are that Nokia will release one with a kb and one without, thereby offering consumers a perfect choice for whatever their preference? Could really help sales. Just a thought. N9 with, N950 without?

[NvyUs]

I just googled Nokia RM686 Harmattan these are the results below.
NOw check out the link pkgs - Collabora People for easter eggs ;)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=nokia+rm686#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=nokia+rm686+harmattan&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=1512da287c2ebdcb

[shady]

N9/50 == "jessies girl" .... hahahaha

Separate package for NFC related tools
ii nfcd 0.10.3+0m6 Daemon that handles NFC tags and devices
ii ngf-settings-rx71

boom! nice surprise!!!

[zehjotkah]

Just thought I would share a picture...

http://meetmeego.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/N9comparision.png

[cfh11]

nice find... it certainly implies that the phone will be NFC enabled. and the inclusion of a augmented reality browser implies that there will be a compass. also see a mention to continuous autofocus :D

this is getting more exciting by the day

[MONVMENTVM]

N9/50 == "jessies girl" .... hahahaha

At least Jessie's Girl is the song used in the teaser video, so by saying

"We can’t wait to show you more – maybe a sneak peek at “Jessie’s Girl” – in the weeks to come."

they kinda confirm that the video is legit, the device (however it will be called) is legit and we'll get to know more in a few weeks. So... hell yeaaah :D

[cfh11]

Just thought I would share a picture...

http://meetmeego.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/N9comparision.png

i think it pretty obvious from this pic that the res is higher than the n900... exactly what it is though i will leave to more technical folks than myself

[jflatt]

I just googled Nokia RM686 Harmattan these are the results below.
NOw check out the link pkgs - Collabora People for easter eggs ;)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=nokia+rm686#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=nokia+rm686+harmattan&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=1512da287c2ebdcbLooks like some FM radio bits in there too, a TI radio chipset nonetheless
USB mode selector (Mass storage/charging? Or OTG?)
shazam
MS PlayReady DRM libs
MMS
Ovi Music
720p DSP codecs
Dolby audio

[marrat]

I just googled Nokia RM686 Harmattan these are the results below.
NOw check out the link pkgs - Collabora People for easter eggs ;)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=nokia+rm686#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=nokia+rm686+harmattan&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=1512da287c2ebdcb

Facebook, Twitter, Layar, Koffice, Nokia Drive... :cool:

[shady]

remember this is the 696, not the 680 ... so dont get too high on hopes, and this has got OMAP3 plastered all over the device ... so who knows. but temper your enthusiasm, nokia has a tradition of dissappointment!

[evan]

there is mention in there for rx-71

[NvyUs]

there is mention in there for rx-71

Every search I've ever done I find RX-71 showing up in some form.
It's a old device was rumoured to be coming out few months after N900 but never.

[vi_]

...based on busybox 1.19.

[qwazix]

I just googled Nokia RM686 Harmattan these are the results below.
NOw check out the link pkgs - Collabora People for easter eggs ;)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=nokia+rm686#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=nokia+rm686+harmattan&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=1512da287c2ebdcb

line 3583 --> ii sensord-plugins-compasslogic
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[evan]

whatever it is it has a compass

for the moment I would be content at grabbing all those newer packages for n900
busybox, pulseaudio, etc.. everything is newer

based on kernel 2.6.32-20111001

[chemist]

is'nt nHD Nokias 640*360 screens? you guys are really mixing up the terminology in this thread, I'm confused :confused:

nHD is 'nineth'HD so yes but I think what they mean is nHD per inch^2 O_o would be some 1280x720 (WXGA-H)... I doubt it.
Ask toschiba they got such screens in 4"...
Where did you get this software info ? lol
1. Do you mean formally that this device will receive all meego release update in the future ?
2. Ovi Maps information has been done by our friend zehjotkah.
3. yes I'm a linux noob and so... not a nokia noob
4. All people on this thread is looking for his next & new toy, aren't you ? \o/

1. no but meego software will be compatible
2. so I guess hearsay
3. sure?
4. no I look to buy another 2-3 N900s before they stop selling them

[Amyako]

Holy **** ! It has wl1271 wifi driver, and this means TI OMAP 4 cpu(Google for PandaBoard).

[vitaminj]

Separate package for NFC related tools
ii nfcd 0.10.3+0m6 Daemon that handles NFC tags and devices
ii ngf-settings-rx71

boom! nice surprise!!!

Hey, that'll be good. Suggests that Mr. Elop didn't reverse this decision:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/17/nokia_nfc_commitment/

[cevenn]

meego-hwkeyboard-configuration 0.12+0m6 MeeGo hardware keyboard configuration...

[Amyako]

Well, looks like it is wl1271/1273, google says it has fm tx & fm rx in addition to WLAN & Bluetooth.

I don't know what `rx-71` it is, but if that is true(omap4 + wl1271/3) then i'll buy this =)

But now we can do nothing but wait -_-

[NvyUs]

meego-hwkeyboard-configuration 0.12+0m6 MeeGo hardware keyboard configuration...

but that could be for accessory kb too maybe ?

[cevenn]

Just make a search with "meego" in the google link...
Exemple:
meegotouch-demos-widgetsgallery 0.20.89-1+0m6 Demo application for MeeGo

[pelago]

I just googled Nokia RM686 Harmattan these are the results below.
NOw check out the link pkgs - Collabora People for easter eggs ;)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=nokia+rm686#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=nokia+rm686+harmattan&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=1512da287c2ebdcb
Very interesting. How did you come across the model number RM686 to know to Google for it, though - that's the first I've heard of that model number?

[NvyUs]

Very interesting. How did you come across the model number RM686 to know to Google for it, though - that's the first I've heard of that model number?

it was a spelling mistake ;) i meant to type rm696 lol

[zehjotkah]

2. so I guess hearsay


no hearsay.
It will have the same version of Ovi Maps as Symbian.
Updates will be available at the same moment as well.

[blipnl]

I just googled Nokia RM686 Harmattan these are the results below.
NOw check out the link pkgs - Collabora People for easter eggs ;)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=nokia+rm686#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=nokia+rm686+harmattan&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=1512da287c2ebdcb

How do we know we are talking about the same device? this got me exited, however the one wich had passed the FCC recently was the RM680 and unfortunately not the RM686.

200th post yey!:D

[NvyUs]

How do we know we are talking about the same device? this got me exited, however the one wich had passed the FCC recently was the RM680 and unfortunately not the RM686.

I was not interested in the device as such the libs and plugins look more interesting which you can almost guarantee most will be on whatever device(s) we end up seeing released

[sevla]

I wonder if their will be this much excitement over the wp7 phone....


NOT!!!

[jet247]

Someone has probably mentioned this in the previous 51 pages, but during the video a news story appears on the 'live feed' that says NYC area lands 2014 super bowl. This story was from May 2010, so wouldn't that mean that at least parts of the video were shot a long time ago?

Obviously after Nokia conversations released info today about Jessie's girl the device is real and hopefully coming soon.

[zehjotkah]

Someone has probably mentioned this in the previous 51 pages, but during the video a news story appears on the 'live feed' that says NYC area lands 2014 super bowl. This story was from May 2010, so wouldn't that mean that at least parts of the video were shot a long time ago?

Obviously after Nokia conversations released info today about Jessie's girl the device is real and hopefully coming soon.

it was discussed to death. ;)
the icons are just some weeks old (official) and in development just for some months.
so the video can't be older than these icons.
in fact the video is about two weeks old.

[kevloral]

Hey, that'll be good. Suggests that Mr. Elop didn't reverse this decision:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/17/nokia_nfc_commitment/

They already did. Have a look at both the E6-00 and the X7-00. Do they have NFC support? Nope. By the way, where is the firmware update for the C7-00 that was supposed to enable the NFC hardware capabilities that it has? Nowhere to be seen.

Not to mention that the RM680 does NOT have NFC support either. I couldn't see any mention of the 13.56Mhz frequency within the FCC filings.

[Brock]

I just googled Nokia RM686 Harmattan these are the results below.
NOw check out the link pkgs - Collabora People for easter eggs ;)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=nokia+rm686#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=nokia+rm686+harmattan&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=1512da287c2ebdcb

i still wonder why no one has an icq client implemented in his smartphone...

[jalyst]

Quim's presentation is rejected!!!?! Is this a snub to Nokia by Intel???

More likely senior management has not allowed him :(
As Nokia no longer wants to shine too much of a light on H_M

[leomax]

Amyako,how can you say its omap4 by just seeing wl1273?
As i understand it could be 3630/3640 than 4 series.
and imo 'OpenGL ES 2.0 SGX library' would mean its sgx530 than sgx540 and also 'libomap3camd'

[jet247]

it was discussed to death. ;)
the icons are just some weeks old (official) and in development just for some months.
so the video can't be older than these icons.
in fact the video is about two weeks old.

Ah right haha, thanks for letting me know, any idea how its possible to have a story that old on a live feed with a time stamp though?

Unless they've just shoved that in there from quite a while ago.

[zehjotkah]

Quim's presentation is rejected!!!?! Is this a snub to Nokia by Intel???

Tweet by Quim Gil:

@zehjotkah there was a willingness to avoid Harmattan specific sessions in order to focus on released MeeGo projects - I agree

http://twitter.com/quimgil/status/71255460543606784

[cfh11]

Amyako,how can you say its omap4 by just seeing wl1273?
As i understand it could be 3630/3640 than 4 series.
and imo 'OpenGL ES 2.0 SGX library' would mean its sgx530 than sgx540 and also 'libomap3camd'

and that spec document clearly says OMAP3 DSP unfortunately.... but I could live with 3630 (base freq of 1ghz) if the UX is smooth and we can OC it

[Brock]

back to the display

watch out this link http://www.nokiablog.ch/nokia-n9-1280-x-720-4-366ppi-screen/2774/ its german, but the important thing are the 2 pictures. The guys have made the pictures including the grid showing every single pixel... so, if the screen on the phone in the video is real, then we really will get the most amazing display... To great to be true :D

[brandonc]

looking through the code at: http://people.collabora.com/~tester/pkgs, I have concluded we will have mms supported right out of the box :)

[marrat]

Ah right haha, thanks for letting me know, any idea how its possible to have a story that old on a live feed with a time stamp though?

Unless they've just shoved that in there from quite a while ago.

"The video is about two weeks old" doesn't mean "the material used in the video is about two weeks old"... there are plenty of examples in TV series productions, where older shots are used for new episodes,,,

[MINKIN2]

I just googled Nokia RM686 Harmattan these are the results below.
NOw check out the link pkgs - Collabora People for easter eggs ;)
http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=nokia+rm686#sclient=psy&hl=en&safe=off&source=hp&q=nokia+rm686+harmattan&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&fp=1512da287c2ebdcb

Some goodies in that, but what is this?
ii l10n-windowslive-uk ?????

AND FM RADIO...

ii wl1273-fm-radio-firmware

...listed separately from telephony?

still reading the list and I am liking the look of the pre install app packages too

[Jedibeeftrix]

and that spec document clearly says OMAP3 DSP unfortunately.... but I could live with 3630 (base freq of 1ghz) if the UX is smooth and we can OC it

i could not.

the sgx530 gpu is an utterly, totally and thoroughly inadequete gpu to stick in a high-res 2011 smartphone!

if i wanted a warmed over n900 i would overclock the one i already have.

omap3 might well be a deal-breaker for me.

[NvyUs]

Google says page was created 25th April 2011 so whatever the device is its seen recent activity, maybe someone got the name wrong and its actually RM696 not RM686 but very unlikely

[daperl]

omap3 might well be a deal-breaker for me.

Sadly, me too.

[marrat]

i could not.

the sgx530 gpu is an utterly, totally and thoroughly inadequete gpu to stick in a high-res 2011 smartphone!

if i wanted a warmed over n900 i would overclock the one i already have.

omap3 might well be a deal-breaker for me.

I personally don't care about the CPU... for me itMs the complete package that matters. That's why I got a N8 in the first place... Now a nice complete package paired with QWERTY and Harmattan? I'M all in!

[xerxes2]

I think it'll be omap3 as omap4 is not yet available afaik.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_OMAP

Omap3640 1.2ghz doesn't look too shabby to me.

[wmarone]

I think it'll be omap3 as omap4 is not yet available afaik.
Blackberry Playbook is shipping with the OMAP4.

Omap3640 1.2ghz doesn't look too shabby to me.
But the graphics processor is behind the times, and multiple cores do lend efficiency and responsiveness that a highly clocked, single core processor can't.

[xerxes2]

Yeah I see that now. The Playbook and the Optimus 3d seems to have Omap4. I'm happy with omap3 though as dual-core will chew more power so less battery time.

[Jedibeeftrix]

I think it'll be omap3 as omap4 is not yet available afaik.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Instruments_OMAP

Omap3640 1.2ghz doesn't look too shabby to me.

tell that to the people with blackberry playbooks. :)

there is no excuse for sticking the archaic ompa3 in a £450 smartphone.

none!

[wmarone]

Yeah I see that now. The Playbook and the Optimus 3d seems to have Omap4. I'm happy with omap3 though as dual-core will chew more power so less battery time.

Dual-core doesn't necessarily chew more power, unless you're loading both cores constantly. If anything the secondary core will spend most of its time asleep, moreso than the primary core, and not consume much more power than it would were it not there.

In return, you'll get a more responsive device because you'll probably have a CPU ready to do what you need if the other is busy.

[Brock]

Yeah I see that now. The Playbook and the Optimus 3d seems to have Omap4. I'm happy with omap3 though as dual-core will chew more power so less battery time.

not a must be...

e.g. some time ago nvidia mentioned regarding their soc that more power means less time for the cpu until his job is done. and that means that the cpu can go to his power saving modes faster then with a single core cpu...

[Pillum]

Holy **** ! It has wl1271 wifi driver, and this means TI OMAP 4 cpu(Google for PandaBoard).

That doesnt make any sense!

[NvyUs]

Whats all the Vodafone packages about? as it already got carrier support? customization?

[cevenn]

If you're still talking about the google link, it's OMAP3:
libomap3camd 1.96-2+0m6 OMAP3 camera Library

[daperl]

I'm not sure, but I don't think Apple significantly changed the battery for the latest iPad. If that's true, you have single core and dual core ARM devices with very similar battery life. 'nough said.

[zehjotkah]

you can speculate as long as you want about the CPU. It won't change^^

okay, next small hint:
Why is there a bezel around the screen, which looks exactly like the screen?
Here you can see what I mean: https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934254957498082

here is another hint: https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934248328420034

[shady]

gesture controls ... its to swipe in and out of applications, and settings ... pretty easy.

[Pillum]

tell me the answer! :)

[EIPI]

Its either for gesture recognition, or for speakers, IMO

[zehjotkah]

gesture controls ... its to swipe in and out of applications, and settings ... pretty easy.

you Sir won.

okay, that was easy. I have to think about something harder^^

[xerxes2]

not a must be...

e.g. some time ago nvidia mentioned regarding their soc that more power means less time for the cpu until his job is done. and that means that the cpu can go to his power saving modes faster then with a single core cpu...

Generally speaking a dual-core is more efficient than a single-core in heavy use, as you say. It can be clocked lower and still be faster. But in idle and light use a single-core is more efficient, usually. But I guess with various power saving features a dual-core could be almost as efficient as a single-core in idle too. Anyway, I think Nokia should release open devices more often, like every year, then we wouldn't have to ***** about what cpu it has.

[brandonc]

you can speculate as long as you want about the CPU. It won't change^^

okay, next small hint:
Why is there a bezel around the screen, which looks exactly like the screen?
Here you can see what I mean: https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934254957498082

In the video where they did the sliding action off the side of the screen..are you possibly hinting at a sort of gesture strip (ala palm pre) being implemented?


edit:
oops guess it took me too long to type ha

[sevla]

you can speculate as long as you want about the CPU. It won't change^^

okay, next small hint:
Why is there a bezel around the screen, which looks exactly like the screen?
Here you can see what I mean: https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934254957498082

here is another hint: https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934248328420034

so you can flip through your apps!!!

that's pretty cool.. i was wondering how that was going to work with apps that allow you to swipe horizontally..

[zehjotkah]

okay, next one.

take a look at these two pictures:
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934218124002322
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934246301048754

Do you see something strange? (I took a harder picture than necesary for the second one)

[tissot]

With OMAP3 inside it means lacking on HDMI out capabilities, if there even is a HDMI out. :(
RM-680 seemed certain to have OMAP3 but i was hoping for lankku at least to have the umph needed if this is lankku.
This "it's just enough" thing Nokia has been doing for past 3 years haven't carried them and wont carry them in the future. I was hoping meego to finally change that.

[anapospastos]

Oh man I love this game.

[qwazix]

you can speculate as long as you want about the CPU. It won't change^^

okay, next small hint:
Why is there a bezel around the screen, which looks exactly like the screen?
Here you can see what I mean: https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934254957498082

here is another hint: https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934248328420034

don't all of them have one? Why this one is different. And gestures in and out of the screen is already on our N900.
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[Jedibeeftrix]

you can speculate as long as you want about the CPU. It won't change^^

okay, next small hint:
Why is there a bezel around the screen, which looks exactly like the screen?
Here you can see what I mean: https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934254957498082

here is another hint: https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934248328420034

i intend to keep speculating.

i can cope with a single core if its clocked high enough, but the sgx530 gpu in the omap3 soc is a museum piece, and totally inadequate for a high end smartphone in 2011.

[sevla]

okay, next one.

take a look at these two pictures:
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934218124002322
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934246301048754

Do you see something strange? (I took a harder picture than necesary for the second one)

i see two little holes by the camera flash.. my guess would be noise cancel mics but that's nothing special so it must be something else.

[brandonc]

okay, next one.

take a look at these two pictures:
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934218124002322
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934246301048754

Do you see something strange? (I took a harder picture than necesary for the second one)

looks a little too round to me...

[Pillum]

okay, next one.

take a look at these two pictures:
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934218124002322
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934246301048754

Do you see something strange? (I took a harder picture than necesary for the second one)

why does the first one have a black back side and on the other one it is light grey?

[EIPI]

okay, next one.

take a look at these two pictures:
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934218124002322
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934246301048754

Do you see something strange? (I took a harder picture than necesary for the second one)
Well - the devices do not appear to be the same. I mean, the blurry pic seems to have some sort of rounded back that curves towards the front of the unit, whereas the clearer picture makes it looks like 90 degree edges...

[zehjotkah]

why does the first one have a black back side and on the other one it is light grey?

Pillum won.

Edit: EIPI was second
Well - the devices do not appear to be the same. I mean, the blurry pic seems to have some sort of rounded back that curves towards the front of the unit, whereas the clearer picture makes it looks like 90 degree edges...

edit2: Oh sorry, totally missed brandonc! Sorry!

So, why is it this way?

I have to pack my bags now.
My flight to MeeGo Conference is going tomorrow at 6:55 AM :rolleyes:

[NvyUs]

It changes Colour when a Iphone approaches? :D

[qwazix]

one with keyboard and one without
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[sevla]

Pillum won.

Edit: EIPI was second


edit2: Oh sorry, totally missed brandonc! Sorry!

So, why is it this way?

I have to pack my bags now.
My flight to MeeGo Conference is going tomorrow at 6:55 AM :rolleyes:

two different models? one with keyboard one without?

edit: actually it looks like both have keyboards.. the first pic looks like the screen is popped up.. maybe it's just two dfiferent models both with keyboards..

[EIPI]

I would say one has a removable back cover, and one does not.

[qwazix]

I was faster :)
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[Pillum]

Pillum won.
Why is this?

I have to pack my bags now.
My flight to MeeGo Conference is going tomorrow at 6:55 AM :rolleyes:

thats something i wondered about since the release of the video :S :confused:

[jflatt]

Removable keyboard?

[zehjotkah]

The following pictures are from an E7. Do not mix them with the Harmattan device. It's easy to tell the difference by taking a look at the camera.
http://symbianworld.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Nokia-E7-back.jpg
http://www.onlinegadgetbox.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/NOKIA-E-7-BACK-300x300.png

[shady]

late and wrong ... /sorry

[zehjotkah]

This is one of the worst teasers I've ever seen^^
It's nearly not possible to hint without telling too much. :D

[sevla]

gives us one tiny clue.. i'm stumped on this one.

[Pillum]

sand clock? weighing scale? thermometer?

[qwazix]

two colors? Is it that simple?
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[daperl]

This is one of the worst teasers I've ever seen^^
It's nearly not possible to hint without telling too much. :D

Multiple colors?

[EIPI]

Almost looks like there is a switch near the darker edge - possibly for lense cover?

[marrat]

available in different colors, like the two colors you showed with the E7 pics...

[sevla]

the colors don't explain why the two harmattan pics seem to have a different shape..

[zymo]

maybe one has a edof camera :)

[NvyUs]

I dont know but that switch and a removable Module maybe.
such a tease I hate him officially :confused::(

[sevla]

removable module would imply two battery sources... which seems unlikely.. i guess in theory they could use nfc to have the base communicate with the remote.

[EIPI]

If the one is very E7-like, then I would surmise that both models have HW keyboard.

[NvyUs]

come on dont give up we can get this, dont let z beat us :D

[Brock]

i think its one device in the video... and its a little bit dual-colored... watch the movie again and take a look at the short scene of the first picture. First you see the device from the side with keyboard opened and then the cam gets around it showing the back... the centre of it is in metal grey, just the two ends are black... or am i blind?

[olighak]

i think its one device in the video... and its a little bit dual-colored... watch the movie again and take a look at the short scene of the first picture. First you see the device from the side with keyboard opened and then the cam gets around it showing the back... the centre of it is in metal grey, just the two ends are black... or am i blind?

You are right. That´s the way it looks. Would that serve any purpose?

[laoh]

definitely seems to be two different devices...

the bezel in the device (0:15 in the video) seems to be much wider than the one elsewhere in the video (for example 0:08 in the video).

actually, the wider bezel reminds a lot of the device leaked long time ago, while the thinner bezel reminds me of that nokia conversations "dream nokia" that they showed some months ago.

but, what does this mean? does this mean that both devices have a kb?

[gazza_d]

PeterMeego from Nokia posted this link on twitter a few minutes ago with the comment "whre there is smoke there is fire..."

http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/05/19/future-devices-and-innovation-at-nokia/

Jessie's girl is looking she's gonna be the hot new kid on the block...

btw pleased to hear one of my alltime fave tunes, that alone is enough to get me going.....

[dtergens]

http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/3193/21backvolrockerspeakerc.jpg
Is it possible that it's two small xenon module near the led flash ?
No I don't think ti's a good place, it's another thing, but what, NFC windows ? ^^

[inzimam]

I can't waste any more of my life on this kind of thing and tinkering with the phones. Damn you Nokia for teasing this, but I have stuck to my guns and with the thought of waiting another 3 or 4 months for this to turn up, I've signed up with Vodafone for the HTC Sensation, which I've sold and just bought the Samsung Galaxy S 2 sim free.,

My N900 has served me well and I love the hardware keyboard, but it's frustrating slow at times. Of course I'm not the most powerful of power users, and I'm sure you can get the N900 to run smoothly but it's just too much work for me. I just want a phone that does what it should and when it should.

I am going to miss the keyboard and the stylus for remote desktop. I am, however, looking forward to being able to use some apps like whatsapp, online trading apps and google apps!

[NvyUs]

I can't waste any more of my life on this kind of thing and tinkering with the phones. Damn you Nokia for teasing this, but I have stuck to my guns and with the thought of waiting another 3 or 4 months for this to turn up, I've signed up with Vodafone for the HTC Sensation, which I've sold and just bought the Samsung Galaxy S 2 sim free.,

My N900 has served me well and I love the hardware keyboard, but it's frustrating slow at times. Of course I'm not the most powerful of power users, and I'm sure you can get the N900 to run smoothly but it's just too much work for me. I just want a phone that does what it should and when it should.

I am going to miss the keyboard and the stylus for remote desktop. I am, however, looking forward to being able to use some apps like whatsapp, online trading apps and google apps!

Exactly how as this got anything to do with the Harmattan devices we are speculating over and trying to find facts about, I think you need your own thread mate

[sevla]

Exactly how as this got anything to do with the Harmattan devices we are speculating over and trying to find facts about, I think you need your own thread mate

yea only speculators and crybabies allowed in here dude :).

[cfh11]

if you ask me the speculation here is getting a little too fact-based... we might have to spin off another thread to continue the good old wild baseless speculation people are so fond of around here :p

[IsaacDFP]

okay, next one.

take a look at these two pictures:
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934218124002322
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934246301048754

Do you see something strange? (I took a harder picture than necesary for the second one)

Who has the answerrrr, would there really be TWO different devices?? Would it be worth it to create one keyboard-less? Ahhhh

[Brock]

now i have a quiz for you

compare these two pictures:

https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934273079932450
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934218124002322

[kristoforo]

Hello, im so exited about this thing, so i have to join and wonder what the hek is going on. I watched the pics till my eyes was getting numb, could it be, that the phone has some sort of gesturearea on the upperback, sorry about my english... it looks like there is thikker part in the back of the machine, on the top. And does anybody remember that short video couple of years ago, where this guy from nokia labs controlled his phone with use of phones speaker, or something like that it was. :)

[NOMOS]

So, it's two devices with different camera layouts and modules. One looks like the E7, the other does not. What is your point, Brock?

[Brock]

Hello, im so exited about this thing, so i have to join and wonder what the hek is going on. I watched the pics till my eyes was getting numb, could it be, that the phone has some sort of gesturearea on the upperback, sorry about my english... it looks like there is thikker part in the back of the machine, on the top. And does anybody remember that short video couple of years ago, where this guy from nokia labs controlled his phone with use of phones speaker, or something like that it was. :)

nokia labs also worked on gestures in front of the (backside)cam

and due to the fact that "meego is part of the future disruption at nokia" these things are possible...

i personally would love to see this implemented in it... but at the moment only for symbian phones... i love it ;)
http://betalabs.nokia.com/apps/nokia-situations

Edit
P.S.: Can someone tell me what exactly is meant by saying "future disruption"? or translate it into german? ;)

[marrat]

nokia labs also worked on gestures in front of the (backside)cam

and due to the fact that "meego is part of the future disruption at nokia" these things are possible...

i personally would love to see this implemented in it... but at the moment only for symbian phones... i love it ;)
http://betalabs.nokia.com/apps/nokia-situations

Edit
P.S.: Can someone tell me what exactly is meant by saying "future disruption"? or translate it into german? ;)

Geht in die Richtung "Technologien, um in der Zukunft den (Mobilfunk)markt zu erschüttern/umzukrempeln"... it's complicated to find an adequate literal translation...

[NOMOS]

It means changes in technology that are revolutionary, not evolutionary, and can change the marketplace for these products. So higher pixel density is not a possible future disruption, but 3D projected holographic UI would be. I didn't dare try my german here :)

Edit: Was late.

[kristoforo]

Well we have to wait and see, and hope that nokia takes all that huge potential in use, there must be so much innovations in the closet that are not dared to use, but now is the time. (hopefully) Maybe this situation is good for nokia, loosing shares, makes them to gome out of the shell and take new risks.

[K.Singh]

Does anyone know the answer?

[LTman]

here is some speculation for you guys
hopefully this thing will have 1 gb ram and an intel atom dual core for an exra kick + good battery life
P.S if my speculations above all come true (i am specificaly pointing to intel + batt.) then i will eat my jeans

[tissot]

definitely seems to be two different devices...

the bezel in the device (0:15 in the video) seems to be much wider than the one elsewhere in the video (for example 0:08 in the video).


Honestly i can't see any difference between the thickness of the bezel between those.
Also the device looks quite a bit thinner on some pics and in some not because its curvey back plate.

Camera modules do look different and can't explain that right away, Though i can't find any other differences so it would seem kind of silly to just have one pic of some other device. So it could be just random pic showing the module close up and getting us excited about the 12 camera module.


Or am i missing something else?


EDIT:

P.S if my speculations above all come true (i am specificaly pointing to intel + batt.) then i will eat my jeans
Your jeans are more than likely safe. :)

[Brock]

Honestly i can't see any difference between the thickness of the bezel between those.
Also the device looks quite a bit thinner on some pics and in some not because its curvey back plate.

Camera modules do look different and can't explain that right away, Though i can't find any other differences so it would seem kind of silly to just have one pic of some other device. So it could be just random pic showing the module close up and getting us excited about the 12 camera module.


i totally agree
and
lets say you win :)

the closeup of the cam is a little bit cleaned with photoshop, nothing special, just to focus the viewer to the cam. thats it ;)

Edit
P.S. The calender shows Wed. 29. Jan. 2010. But that was a Friday!

[mivoligo]

Does anyone know the answer?

I know. It is "42".

[Creamy Goodness]

no way, it's two devices. both should have keyboards, or he wouldn't put pictures of the e7 for no reason... maybe it's the rm680 vs 686 or something.

[ZackMorris]

It couldn't be something such as a 3d camera...too hokey....hmm what if it is an additional camera for augmented reality apps, that might be a possibility.

[IsaacDFP]

I know. It is "42".

If the answer is instead 4'2, then I like that answer :P

[Creamy Goodness]

at least we can see it looks like it has speakers from that pic with the curved back. for all the people thinking a phone that does 720p wouldn't have stereo speakers (lol).

[mece]

okay, next one.

take a look at these two pictures:
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934218124002322
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934246301048754

Do you see something strange? (I took a harder picture than necesary for the second one)

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/05/12/futuristic-nokia-caught-in-real-steel-movie-trailer-has-meego-like-screen-nokia-n9/

[dtergens]

a lock slide button on the back to give choice with landscape or portrait desktop ??? :D

[tissot]

no way, it's two devices. both should have keyboards, or he wouldn't put pictures of the e7 for no reason... maybe it's the rm680 vs 686 or something.

I'm not really getting that E7 part?

I got all the "important" pics(or had 30 minutes ago :)) on my 24" widescreen monitor side by side and i could not find any difference for the life of me, other than the camera modules.

But please if somebody got something to prove me wrong please tell because i would not want anything else than it to be true that the video got 2 devices.

[blackbox]

I can't really see what he is trying to hint! I've dug up some old photos of the N9 prototype and everything looks the same to me. Here take a look:

http://www.symbiantweet.com/leaked-nokia-n9-disassembly-pictures

It's hard to tell really just how thin this device is. Sometimes it looks really thin and sometimes it looks just tad bit thinner than the n900.

[K.Singh]

If the answer is instead 4'2, then I like that answer :P

if only women would say that eh!

[Brock]

It couldn't be something such as a 3d camera...too hokey....hmm what if it is an additional camera for augmented reality apps, that might be a possibility.

they could use the 12mp cam for augmented reality, why using extra hardware for it? for me it looks like something like a speaker grill or something like that

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/638/vlcsnap2011051922h58m33.png/

[sevla]

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/05/12/futuristic-nokia-caught-in-real-steel-movie-trailer-has-meego-like-screen-nokia-n9/

hmmm is the red steel phone in the teaser???

the plot THICKENS!!!!!!!!!

[qwazix]

https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934273079932450

maybe it's 17mp camera :)
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[Pillum]

If the answer is instead 4'2, then I like that answer :P

I will buy this phone only with a 42" screen! :D

[Brock]

I can't really see what he is trying to hint! I've dug up some old photos of the N9 prototype and everything looks the same to me. Here take a look:

http://www.symbiantweet.com/leaked-nokia-n9-disassembly-pictures

It's hard to tell really just how thin this device is. Sometimes it looks really thin and sometimes it looks just tad bit thinner than the n900.

the N9 Logo on the left side of the keyboard is missing :)

imo the only similar thing between the old and the new version is the aluminium body. all other things have been updated

[Creamy Goodness]

he's not hinting anything, he's shown two pictures that prove the video contains two devices. that's why he said he can't hint or it will give it away. too obvious. that's my guess anyways. I bet he doesn't want to get in trouble so he won't confirm anything like that too quick.

-edit-
okay i watched the video again, the keyboard part is sharp edged and the back is rounded, I think the phone is actually fairly thick, it's just hard to see with the camera angles. But it looks like it's just one device again now. Even the camera module looks the same. So the thing I thought was a speaker is just the writing for the camera.

[tissot]

the N9 Logo on the left side of the keyboard is missing :)

imo the only similar thing between the old and the new version is the aluminium body. all other things have been updated

Like going from 1320 battery to 1200mah. :p

[Brock]

okay, next one.

take a look at these two pictures:
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934218124002322
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934246301048754

Do you see something strange? (I took a harder picture than necesary for the second one)

same device, other point of view, thats it

[Brock]

Like going from 1320 battery to 1200mah. :p

i am still waiting for the (rumored) 1600mAh battery... you guys remember how many polygons it should be able to handle... ;)

[keflex]

To be honest, he could be hinting that the phone has a removable back. The E7 did not have this functionality.

[Brock]

To be honest, he could be hinting that the phone has a removable back. The E7 did not have this functionality.

then one picture would be enough, but yes, it has a removable back

[msnbcnnbcbs]

educated guess: the keyboard device is the developer version that was rejected by the carriers because of the flimsiness issue a while back. this one will probably be handed out at the conference. the keyboardless (newer) version is the one that will be sold to the masses.

and if this is correct: do both phones have the same hardware, seeing as one was developed later than the other?

[Brock]

thats what we all want to know ;)

[dtergens]

I know, the two holes area is for the 3ghz cpu cooler xD


Edit : seriously after making a big zoom on the back, imho it seems to be like a slide button to open the screen exactly like the one we have on the right side of the N900 :)

[Andrew_b]

Just thought I would share a picture...

http://meetmeego.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/N9comparision.png

Okay, so it's a deliberately obvious cut and paste and I've been working backwards through the thread this evening, but you're showing us xterm here, right?

[sevla]

I know, the two holes area is for the 3ghz cpu cooler xD

i call bs.

it's obviously an extra sensory perception receiver... i.e. Telepathy.

So all you have to do is think it and your phones does it.

Why do you think the phone ships with TELEPATHY libs!!!!!!!!!!!!!


i'm a genius...

[maxximuscool]

they could use the 12mp cam for augmented reality, why using extra hardware for it? for me it looks like something like a speaker grill or something like that

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/638/vlcsnap2011051922h58m33.png/

I doubt it. AG on Nokia device lol... If you want a good AG then you have to either get an Android or Apple.

[Pillum]

Okay, so it's a deliberately obvious cut and paste and I've been working backwards through the thread this evening, but you're showing us xterm here, right?

the upper one is n9 and the lower one with xterm is n900

[NvyUs]

I doubt it. AG on Nokia device lol... If you want a good AG then you have to either get an Android or Apple.

Really! see the google link I posted a preinstalled app is an Augmented reality browser

[Pillum]

it is this one: http://www.layar.com/

[Brock]

augmented reality is a software thing and just needs a cam... and i dont think that this thing on the backside has anything to do with augmented reality.

[Brock]

Okay, so it's a deliberately obvious cut and paste and I've been working backwards through the thread this evening, but you're showing us xterm here, right?

backwards? bad idea... work faster ;)

[dtergens]

Like I said in my previous post, it really seems to be like the same slide button to open/close the screen like the one on the right of the N900, is it ?:confused:

Edit : ok zehtjokah you win, I'm going to bed without the good answer ^^

[patlak]

augmented reality is a software thing and just needs a cam... and i dont think that this thing on the backside has anything to do with augmented reality.

Maybe it's an iSheep sensor ;)

The two photos seem to represent different devices. Is it possible that one is more camera oriented and features a sensor with optical zoom, hence the chubbiness? :D

[sony123]

Well the difference in shape is pretty obvious, N950 has squeeze control. :D

[The Wizard of Huz]

okay, next one.

take a look at these two pictures:
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934218124002322
https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934246301048754

Do you see something strange? (I took a harder picture than necesary for the second one)

2 devices. Both are not the same device.

[brandonc]

Ive been thinking it must be two devices...I keep watching the teaser and I feel like im looking at two after a while.
what ever happened to this guy...maybe he got a little reworked
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/15/nokia-collects-design-patent-for-tablet-evokes-n8-aesthetics/

[NvyUs]

Ive been thinking it must be two devices...I keep watching the teaser and I feel like im looking at two after a while.
what ever happened to this guy...maybe he got a little reworked
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/15/nokia-collects-design-patent-for-tablet-evokes-n8-aesthetics/

I prefer the recent Concept Nokia filed a patent for
http://mynokiablog.com/2011/05/04/nokias-dual-display-3d-communicator-seen-in-patent-app/

[kralde]

The original video uploaded by pocketnow has been deleted due a reclamation of copyright by Nokia.
Seems that nokia dislike that the video is online :P

[AndyNokia232]

Ive been thinking it must be two devices...I keep watching the teaser and I feel like im looking at two after a while.
what ever happened to this guy...maybe he got a little reworked
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/15/nokia-collects-design-patent-for-tablet-evokes-n8-aesthetics/

Said it before, sayin it again: I think we're getting a brother and sister act like the N8 and E7. They both pretty much look the same, except one gets the fancy camera, the other gets the keyboard. They both get S^3 (poor buggers!) We will discover next week or so that that sales strategy worked well, and they're doing it again. A touchscreen only (let's call it N9) and a qwerty version (call it the N950). Both totally awesome but slightly different hardware.

Also notice the shot (very quick) of the on-screen keyboard. Why show that? Ah yes, because that's the N8-y one being shown off.

I hope I'm right, only because it will be a sales winner for our friendly old uncle Nokia :)

[zb88]

did anyone checked this link? http://www.neonode.com/neonode-signs-technology-license-agreement-with-new-oem-customer-2/

maybe it's Nokia, who've signed the license agreement... hmm?

[Helmuth]

Okay, in my Opinion we have enought pages speculated about this weird sensor, speaker grill or 3D camera. I will solve this now for you:

What you can see here...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_WEjYLiNWJ6E/TdNidZMKBBI/AAAAAAAAAYo/ZkZ-a2JOgxE/s640/21backvolrockerspeakerc.jpg

...is simply the SCREW you need to release to remove the backcover!

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_l07vVnBw3l8/TG1fxfCD1uI/AAAAAAAACGs/OSzLs5yq4KU/s640/Nokia_N9%20%289%29.jpeg

Everyone disappointed as I am? :) Fine... :rolleyes:
And now, please hit the Thanks button and move on with the next level of this game. ;)

[chase15]

so you still need screw driver just to get baterry off?? r just to change sim card? that sux...

[jakiman]

I don' get it.

That photo just shows me:
1. Volume control on side
2. LED flashlight (small circle)
3. Camera lense (largesquare/circle)

What's so intriguing about that photo???

[Frappacino]

If there was I way say thanks twice I would do it. Couldnt say it better myself :-)

The only way to hold a corporation to account in the marketplace is not to buy their products.

Continual support of Nokia if you are not happy with its products is just silly.

If you want to support FOSS and Meego then buy Meego phones from other companies - i.e. LG releasing some phones I believe.

Of course if the hardware is good enough for you then just get this phone, but dont expect people to "forget" how we were treated.

And Yes I believe all Nokia bashing is fully justified - their past behavior is indefensible, and as a consumer the only power you have to reprimand them is NOT to buy their products.

[sjgadsby]

What's so intriguing about that photo???

Dude, look at the shadows. They prove the moon landing was faked!

[dtergens]

i bet that visible screw were only for the prototype.
i'm more and more sure now that they decided to put the open/close screen slide button at this part of the device to make it better accessible than the N900 one.
if it the case, I like this but hope we have to lock/unlock by a down press much practice than a up press for me. :-)

[Fresh Prince of Nowhere]

so you still need screw driver just to get baterry off?? r just to change sim card? that sux...

For the E7 I think you put the sim card into the side right? They might implement this with the N9. It sucks that you need to unscrew for the battery tho.

[Frappacino]

This is exactly how I feel - the only reason I consider this is the potentially good hardware/design and the fact that there is nothing else out there other then droid I would consider.

I think you totally failed to see the connection between "a few months too late" and "February 9th" there.

What I do know is:
- there won't be a stylus,
- the screen is going to be capacitive, with no support of pressure levels,
- Nokia R&D is cut and the MeeGo part will be further reduced once this device is out,
- it'll start at a recommended £400 or higher,
- support will be **** poor, because Nokia is firing everybody and even today Maemo support is considered to be lacking,
- there'll be no in-brand upgrade path within a 12 months life cycle.

There's a lots of cons, though
+ it's going to be a full OS where all competition use sandboxes or trimmed down OSs.

That's an important Pro, isn't it? Let's see what LG comes up with.
I think Intel should come out with Intel branded, HTC built devices. Like everybody else.

[jakiman]

Dude, look at the shadows. They prove the moon landing was faked!

I'm also a believer that it was fake. But I hope this N9 isn't. :p

[Faustino]

Why is everyone so sure the N9 will use an omap chip?

Was it not common knowledge that Intel had won the contract for the N9.. including the Atom 1.2GHz

Whatever they're using it's fast.. very fast.. you guys should stop worrying :)

[gryedouge]

Just to add some more fuel to the fire

http://www.solidblogger.com/nokia-n950-meego-smartphone-features/

[gerbick]

That article says miniUSB... not microUSB. Dunno.

[law138]

And more

mynokiablog.com/2011/05/20/see-new-hear-new-feel-new-nseries-our-next-sense-gesture-ui-iphone-4-in-2009-nokia-vid/


And more

mynokiablog.com/2011/05/20/nokia-n9-meego-ui-screenshots/

[jakiman]

Whatever they're using it's fast.. very fast.. you guys should stop worrying :)

Well, WP7 using bog standard old Qualcomm 1GHz Snapdragon CPU is super smooth and quite fast.
But yeah, obviously we want something MUCH better than that. =P

[IsaacDFP]

Just to add some more fuel to the fire

http://www.solidblogger.com/nokia-n950-meego-smartphone-features/

I don't know... dual 4.2Ghz, 4G and 1080p playback? Seems too good to be true...lol

[gabby131]

Just to add some more fuel to the fire

http://www.solidblogger.com/nokia-n950-meego-smartphone-features/

what??? is that Nokia beyond that link????? :confused:

[tissot]

what??? is that Nokia beyond that link????? :confused:

No, it's random dream spec list that got nothing to do with the device(s) we are seeing next week.

Why is everyone so sure the N9 will use an omap chip?

Was it not common knowledge that Intel had won the contract for the N9.. including the Atom 1.2GHz

Whatever they're using it's fast.. very fast.. you guys should stop worrying :)
If you have followed Nokia for much over 7 years and followed the RM-680 for over a year you might think otherwise. :)

[Brock]

Just to add some more fuel to the fire

http://www.solidblogger.com/nokia-n950-meego-smartphone-features/

I wonder where they have this specs from...

about cpu:

if they really use the HDready resolution for the display, it should be a dual core cpu to handle graphical applications (or games) in native resolution... IMHO

[mece]

I wonder where they have this specs from...

about cpu:

if they really use the HDready resolution for the display, it should be a dual core cpu to handle graphical applications (or games) in native resolution... IMHO

Seems like a real quality post that one!
I particularly love the bit that goes
- 12 mega pixels autofocus camera
- 3264 x 2448 pixels of high camera resolution

[choufleur47]

http://blogs.forbes.com/elizabethwoyke/2011/05/19/nokia-to-use-st-ericsson-chips-for-windows-phone-8-handsets/

dual core in Nokia's wp7...we should have some dual core love too!!!

[marrat]

A thing I discovered regarding the topic of the 2010 calendar entry (some of you saying that would prove the video is old):

Look at this picture: https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934221986868354

Yes, it shows 2010 January 29, Wednesday as the current day. Put aside that Jan 29 was a Friday last year. But what's more important: The week after Jan 29, there is Jan 66... :o

[shmerl]

A thing I discovered regarding the topic of the 2010 calendar entry (some of you saying that would prove the video is old):

Look at this picture: https://picasaweb.google.com/meetmeego/NokiaN9#5607934221986868354

Yes, it shows 2010 January 29, Wednesday as the current day. Put aside that Jan 29 was a Friday last year. But what's more important: The week after Jan 29, there is Jan 66... :o

Buggy calendar?-)