N9 [Shipping]: It's finally here [for some]!

[ericsson]

Ever thought that I just enjoy calling lesser folks troglodytes? It's my humor.

Try to keep up son.

No thanks. You can walk that "humorous" path by yourself as far as I'm concerned.

[gerbick]

The board should hire him back as CEO....

I'm going to go so far and say that Nokia's current dilemma cannot be turned around by Ari Jaaksi's enthusiasm. Maemo, that ship has sailed. MeeGo? Nokia has done quite a bit of brand damage by letting Elop speak on it as if they (Nokia) represented MeeGo - they don't.

It's going to take much more... like more than one Maemo/MeeGo device ever being released at a time. So far, even that hasn't happened really.

[Chuck Norris]

Ari jaaksi can walk on Water, bring back maemo/meego as CEO at nokia and pay back the us dept as president of US.

[catbus]

And Tissot, it's not... ;)

[hotnikkelz]

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/08/22/nokias-future-bright-with-windows-phone/
hahahaha

[jn183]

After I read this and did few follow up on place such as KazaKhstan...

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Amazon-offering-unlocked-Nokia-N9-to-be-shipped-September-23rd_id21205

I am starting to see some similarity. Just my fantasy, I guess.

Could it be that when NOKIA said not coming stateside or UK, etc. They mean not going to be subsidized to T-mobile and ATT? What I notice is Kazakhstan's mobile company is offering a discount for N9. Then I read that article and seeing as Amazon might be rumor to offer it too. Then this might be the same as N900 where we just have to paid the full price.

So far only N900 was clearly mentioned as developers ONLY. I don't mind paying $500-$600. Bring it on. 1week before September 23rd we will know for sure. Cross finger

[jalyst]

After I read this and did few follow up on place such as KazaKhstan...

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Amazon-offering-unlocked-Nokia-N9-to-be-shipped-September-23rd_id21205

I am starting to see some similarity. Just my fantasy, I guess.

Could it be that when NOKIA said not coming stateside or UK, etc. They mean not going to be subsidized to T-mobile and ATT? What I notice is Kazakhstan's mobile company is offering a discount for N9. Then I read that article and seeing as Amazon might be rumor to offer it too. Then this might be the same as N900 where we just have to paid the full price.

So far only N900 was clearly mentioned as developers ONLY. I don't mind paying $500-$600. Bring it on. 1week before September 23rd we will know for sure. Cross finger

Phone arena's just basing this on that BS listing at Amazon that has since been pulled.
The N9 64GB had an awesome price of $650 USD, but it's no longer there :(
Get ready for another delay (at least in some parts of the world IMO), & a ridiculous price.

[ericsson]

Phone arena's just basing this in that BS listing on Amazon that has since been pulled.
The n9 64gb had an awesome price of $650 USD, but it's no longer there :(
Get ready for another delay (at least in some parts of the world IMO), & a ridiculous price.

The stores don't know where to set the price yet, but it has at least even out now. They are all the same price. This will change when the phone finally arive.

[toki]

im getting tired of this waiting...

its starting to put me off the n9



EDIT:
PSSSHT! what am i on about?! N9 FTW!
i just wish they had an official release date.. i need some closure.. lol

[danramos]

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/08/22/nokias-future-bright-with-windows-phone/
hahahaha

My response:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zSHz7Thvbc

[abill_uk]

im getting tired of this waiting...

its starting to put me off the n9



EDIT:
PSSSHT! what am i on about?! N9 FTW!
i just wish they had an official release date.. i need some closure.. lol

What is the BIG thing about a device that will not be supported?????.

Have you not learned enough from the support the N900 never got?????.

Oh don't tell me the support will be undying from Nokia HAHAHAHAHA.

Better to wait and buy a WP device because you will at least get support for that ... from Microsoft :p.

Now i will duck and run heee heeeeee.

[mece]

My response:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zSHz7Thvbc

What Alex doesn't understand is that it needs to be about 20% cooler.

[danramos]

What Alex doesn't understand is that it needs to be about 20% cooler.

Oh come on, now! Nokia can do cool when it wants to, right?

http://www.fastcompany.com/pics/sites/fastcompany.com.mba/linkedfiles/imagecache/slideshowlarge/slideshows/Nokia_N-Gage.jpg

Right? ...come on, now! ;)

Source: http://www.fastcompany.com/pics/gadget-flops-decade-10-devices-didnt-survive-aughties?slide=3

[Kozzi]

MyMoves: system-wide gestures for Harmattan by sandst1 (http://sandst1.wordpress.com/)


It’s a thing called MyMoves. MyMoves is an attempt to bring configurable
gestures to Harmattan, written in QML/C++. The idea of MyMoves is to be able
to create a gesture, and attach an arbitrary shell command into it.

The current prototype of MyMoves consists of two parts:
- mymoveserver, handles the touch events via XRecord, saves the gestures and performs the recognition
- Configuration UI for adding new gestures and starting/stopping the gesture observation
The server is controlled by the configuration UI via D-Bus commands

How I understand it: draw a gesture = start a specific application

http://sandst1.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mymoves_main.jpg?w=225&h=300
Video of MyMoves in action (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-WWoG6KGXM)

[Kozzi]

I Must Run for N9(50)
http://game-lion.net/imustrun/img/walls/big/01.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOffkybuLH4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOffkybuLH4#t=0m24s)

[vivmak]

A chance for what exactly? The N9 is what it is, nothing more - nothing less. Most people will see it as a successor to the N8, C7, 5800 etc. It will sell in volumes where it is available. It is available where Nokia traditionally is strong, and coincidentally that happens to be most of the world (Sorry for the Germans and French though, but the phone can be purchased unlocked anywhere).



i agree with the options in market n9 is just another ph and shouldnt attract any premium unless it becomes better than n900

[danramos]

I Must Run for N9(50)
http://game-lion.net/imustrun/img/walls/big/01.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOffkybuLH4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOffkybuLH4#t=0m24s)

That seems a LOT like...

http://www.mockpaperscissors.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/robot-unicorn.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdPXskJBFl4
...only without the awesome 80's Erasure background music. ;)

...which you can play right now: http://games.adultswim.com/robot-unicorn-attack-twitchy-online-game.html

[Daneel]

MyMoves: system-wide gestures for Harmattan by sandst1 (http://sandst1.wordpress.com/)



How I understand it: draw a gesture = start a specific application

http://sandst1.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/mymoves_main.jpg?w=225&h=300
Video of MyMoves in action (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-WWoG6KGXM)

Wow, that is really, really cool :)

[Rauha]

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/08/22/nokias-future-bright-with-windows-phone/
hahahaha
lol

Nokia fanboi blogs have sunk so low that that they quote Minister of European affairs. Maybe they can next find a circus clown to comment on Q3 results.

Granted, Alex needs to find few more billions of tax money for bailing out the bankrupt Mediterranean nations. I hope that he is not counting on 'Nokia's bright future' making any considerable tax donations.

[smegheadz]

I think someone should develop a keyboard for drunk texting for the n9. big letters and clever auto complete/predictive messaging that makes your pathetic excuse for a chat up seem charming with a hint of cheek. day 1 buy if that was on it. even better it should just have pictures of what you want and it will do the texting for you. I think it should also haggle with the taxi driver and the kebab shop and whoever i'm chatting up.

back to reality now. there's a few things i am hoping they improved over meamo 5, the email client and browsing/using/updating the repo's

[afaq]

Which one did you visit in BKK that was open ?, can you give out the exact location please ?.

As for the reason, very simply, when the N9 does hit the stores there has to be a store open to go get it ;).

Watch out for the price from asia because for sure it will be the cheapest in the world especially in Thailand, EVEN with the rediculos exchange rate there at the moment.

Believe it was this one (http://www.bkkpages.com/shopping/electronics/mobile-phones/nokia-siam-paragon)


I also took photos if you would like further proof :cool:

[Lindegaard]

I can preorder N9 in Denmark with a carrier - coming late september:

With google translate:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=da&sl=da&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.3.dk%2FPrivat%2Fmobil%2FMobiler %2FNokia-N9%2F%3Futm_medium%3De-mail%26utm_source%3Dlandingpage%26utm_campaign%3Dp resale%26utm_content%3Dnokia_n9

only black, and only 64gb. However this is according to the plan. The cyan and magenta 16gb will come afterwards

[shallimus]

even better it should just have pictures of what you want and it will do the texting for you. I think it should also haggle with the taxi driver and the kebab shop and whoever i'm chatting up.

You know... if you have to haggle with whoever you're chatting up, you probably don't have to bother chatting them up ;)


back to reality now. there's a few things i am hoping they improved over meamo 5, the email client and browsing/using/updating the repo's
Agreed. For me, Modest is possibly the single worst thing about Maemo 5.

[abill_uk]

Believe it was this one (http://www.bkkpages.com/shopping/electronics/mobile-phones/nokia-siam-paragon)


I also took photos if you would like further proof :cool:

There is 3 in total and paragon is one of them all in sukumvit road Siam area and guess what... now they have no staff, they just took off and left all the mobiles security wired so people can look and try etc.

My mate made a video of them all... Siam centre, The emporium and the one you went too at paragon.....3 days ago.

Ouch.

Many thanks for getting back to me by the way i very appreciate it !.

[scapegoat845]

Don't know if this was posted yet, but here goes....

Introducing MyMoves: system-wide gestures for Harmattan

http://sandst1.wordpress.com/2011/08/22/introducing-mymoves-system-wide-gestures-for-harmattan/

The 2nd video shows it in action....

[catbus]

^It is nice that you keep this thread alive but... see previous posts first. :D

[scapegoat845]

Damn, u have to be on your A game around here, lol

[catbus]

Damn, u have to be on your A game around here, lol

i live here...

btw. swipe.nokia.fi, .se,( .no, and .dk) are up again... Maybe finally...

[jalyst]

Squares-up with what some pundits have been speculating for ages
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/08/claimed-iphone-5-parts-turn-up-online-suggesting-minor-changes-in-store.ars
A relatively conservative bump in specs...

Sigh, if only the N9 was out freaking 2mth+ ago.
I have serious doubts that it was impossible for it to be out before Sep30th.
Irrespective of the UX re-write, omit 1 or 3 major features, & it's do-able.
Something else is going on IMO.... :(

[jalyst]

Anyone in the market for a smartphone right now
Engadget's suggesting you go right ahead, no time like the present!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/22/engadgets-back-to-school-guide-2011-smartphones/
Sigh.....

*edit*
My apologies, this story is geared more for Americans.

[govprog]

Science-ficition: Nokia 900 (-N) spotted. (http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/Possible-Nokia-900-Windows-Phone-Spotted-2.jpg/)
Time to flop.

[jalyst]

http://blogs.nokia.com/nordicblog/news/getting-your-meego-app-for-n9-approved/#date=2011-08-23,mode=month

http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/08/import-playlist-itunes-nokia-n950n9/

No idea if this means anything for Amazon UK soon, says coming sept 23rd, prolly BS:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nokia-N9-16GB-Magenta/dp/B005H9Z7TI
Some other UK retailer have already officially confirmed, but it'd be nice to have Amazon on board.

[jalyst]

Science-ficition: Nokia 900 (-N) spotted. (http://news.softpedia.com/newsImage/Possible-Nokia-900-Windows-Phone-Spotted-2.jpg/)
Time to flop.

yeah mostly debunked by commentators @mynokiablog
http://mynokiablog.com/2011/08/22/rumours-possible-nokia-windows-phone-specs-wishfulthinking/

[jalyst]

MyMoves: system-wide gestures for Harmattan by sandst1 (http://sandst1.wordpress.com/)



How I understand it: draw a gesture = start a specific application


Video of MyMoves in action (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-WWoG6KGXM)

Now that's pretty close to what I was going on about earlier.
Very nice find mate, I hope it gets only better!

[caa]

UK users, one more retailer you may (or may not) be aware of:

http://www.mobiles.co.uk/vodafone-nokia-n9.html

Mobiles.co.uk is a sister company of Carphone Warehouse.

Also note the URL mentions 'vodafone', but I don't know whether or not that is correct.

:)

[Kozzi]

Nokia Link
http://www.meegolounge.com/lounge/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/nokialink.jpg

I hope that this isn't the final form, it's missing Contacts field

[lysseslukker]

In Denmark we can pre-order through 3.

http://www.3.dk/Privat/mobil/Mobiler/Nokia-N9/

[catbus]

Is this Nokia Link only for windows?

[confizz]

is nokia link meant to be the cloud service?

Nokia link - coming soon (http://europe.nokia.com/support/product-support/nokia-link;JSESSIONID_NCOM=BwstTTSf6rr5n1lsXhbTjGLvzy1N1 LjqLvJkFh9Tgw2Zy7Kc53CW!1679824112)

[mikecomputing]

A bit offtopic but there is plenty of messages that is offtopic in this thread so I could resist post yet another offtopic message, atleast its a bit fun to see that N900CE "fall release":

* deadline for fall release is 2011-09-23

cool ;)

reference:

http://lists.meego.com/pipermail/meego-handset/2011-August/000624.html

[mikecomputing]

is nokia link meant to be the cloud service?

Nokia link - coming soon (http://europe.nokia.com/support/product-support/nokia-link;JSESSIONID_NCOM=BwstTTSf6rr5n1lsXhbTjGLvzy1N1 LjqLvJkFh9Tgw2Zy7Kc53CW!1679824112)

OH NOO not yet another windows laptop :-(

[danramos]

OH NOO not yet another windows laptop :-(

Cripes. And they even named it the Nokia Stink. Er.. Nokia Link. Yeah.. that name is a good start. Not hard at ALL to use it against the brand with an exquisite history for making laptops, right? :P I'll bet it'll even run WINDOWS again! At least Elop will feel riiiight at home with that.

[Hakki_01]

Nokia Link
http://www.meegolounge.com/lounge/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/nokialink.jpg

I hope that this isn't the final form, it's missing Contacts field

and calendar! (apps would be nice too)

[jalyst]

http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/08/stockona-google-finance-stock-quote-client-meego-harmattan-nokia-n9-n950/
http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/08/application-imquery-nokia-n9-n950/
http://maemobriefs.blogspot.com/2011/08/meego-harmattan-cloudgps-hw-accelerated.html
http://maemobriefs.blogspot.com/2011/08/meego-harmattan-translate-mee-translate.html

http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/08/nokia-n9-level-light-720p-video-sample-meego-harmattan/

[lysseslukker]

But it is pretty expensive. 5500 danish kkr

[jalyst]

But it is pretty expensive. 5500 danish kkr

That's a rip-off... that's $1018 AUD
http://www.google.com/search?q=5500+kkr+to+aud&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#sclient=psy&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=P8U&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&source=hp&q=5500+danish+krone+to+aud&pbx=1&oq=5500+danish+krone+to+aud&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=16038l16579l2l16672l5l4l0l0l0l1l455l455l4-1l1l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=d31e9716c2482842&biw=1280&bih=832

Is that for the 64GB?
It's still way more than here in Oz.

So far most of the prices in EU are looking like crap.
I hope that's not the way the AU prices will head.

[rentze]

In Denmark we can pre-order through 3.

http://www.3.dk/Privat/mobil/Mobiler/Nokia-N9/

Forventet levering start november

:eek:

+ more chars

[delmar]

The phone has been listed by over 40 retailers in Switzerland! Check this out:
http://www.toppreise.ch/index.php?search=nokia+n9&cat=193

Smells like the release is just around the corner...

The prices of the first two carriers seems good (ca. 530-550 Euro for the 64GB), compared to amazon.de (619 Euro for 16GB).

The problems are that this carriers don't ship outside of Switzerland and it's not possible to pick up the device themselves somewhere.

[rentze]

The problems are that this carriers don't ship outside of Switzerland and it's not possible to pick up the device themselves somewhere.

It is. Just choose "Pickup" instead of "Shipping".

[lysseslukker]

hmm for few hours ago it was in the end of september. maybe they have to many pre-orders?

[catbus]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Gollum_wax_museum_mexico_city.jpg/250px-Gollum_wax_museum_mexico_city.jpg

We just can't wait any longer... My precious...

[blipnl]

The anticipation for the N9 is possibly overrated. The interests in this device compared to the N900 is only twice as much. (http://www.google.nl/trends?q=nokia+n9%2C+nokia+n900&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0) The N900 statistic you see is very predictable, peeking in the announcement and release. I suspect it will be the same for the N9, so expect a 100% increase in N9 audience compared to Maemo5. (wich is not little, but still.. not enaugh to make a wordwide stir IMHO.)

[tissot]

The anticipation for the N9 is possibly overrated. The interests in this device compared to the N900 is only twice as much. (http://www.google.nl/trends?q=nokia+n9%2C+nokia+n900&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0) The N900 statistic you see is very predictable, peeking in the announcement and release. I suspect it will be the same for the N9, so expect a 100% increase in N9 audience compared to Maemo5. (wich is not little, but still.. not enaugh to make a wordwide stir IMHO.)

And so what?
Are you waiting N9 to be huge success, because i'm sure nobody in this thread is.
People are just wanting a phone they like.

[blipnl]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c3/Gollum_wax_museum_mexico_city.jpg/250px-Gollum_wax_museum_mexico_city.jpg

We just can't wait any longer... My precious...

http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/OB-PD227_elop08_DV_20110811184041.jpg

HE STOLE IT FROM US!!!

hehe

[bwalter]

The anticipation for the N9 is possibly overrated. The interests in this device compared to the N900 is only twice as much. (http://www.google.nl/trends?q=nokia+n9%2C+nokia+n900&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0) The N900 statistic you see is very predictable, peeking in the announcement and release. I suspect it will be the same for the N9, so expect a 100% increase in N9 audience compared to Maemo5. (wich is not little, but still.. not enaugh to make a wordwide stir IMHO.)

You belong to the people who can predict the future, that's great! Thanks for the info. I have a few additional questions:
- Which color will have the highest popularity? Cyan, Magenta or Black?
- What features will have the new Iphone 5?
- Is the earth getting warmer of cooler? If yes, how many degrees?
- Which shares should I buy today if I want to win 300% in less than 1 month?

Sorry for using your precious time with my questions, but that's such a great opportunity for me to meet a prophete on a internet forum!

Thanks again for your info!

[blipnl]

And so what?
Are you waiting N9 to be huge success, because i'm sure nobody in this thread is.


I am not waiting for the N9 to become a huge success, I was merely making an estimation wich could possibly contribute to this thread. Keep the optimism mate ^^

[delmar]

It is. Just choose "Pickup" instead of "Shipping".

Not possible for microspot.ch, with the best prices:

7.1. Die Auslieferung erfolgt ausschliesslich über Versand und nur innerhalb der Schweiz. Bestellte Ware kann nicht bei microspot.ch abgeholt werden.

[mikecomputing]

The anticipation for the N9 is possibly overrated. The interests in this device compared to the N900 is only twice as much. (http://www.google.nl/trends?q=nokia+n9%2C+nokia+n900&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all&sort=0) The N900 statistic you see is very predictable, peeking in the announcement and release. I suspect it will be the same for the N9, so expect a 100% increase in N9 audience compared to Maemo5. (wich is not little, but still.. not enaugh to make a wordwide stir IMHO.)

blablablablabla

[jalyst]

Is this Nokia Link only for windows?

http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/08/23/nokia-link-sync-your-n9/

And Mac too. I doubt it only supports music/vid/photos.
It may only support that at launch, but contacts/calendar will be added pretty quickly IMO.
And then hopefully Apps shortly after that...
The upside is there 'seems' to be some nice integration with iTunes/iPhoto.
And then of course there's still mass storage mode, which'll prolly end up in: Settings > Accessories > USB

And so what?
Are you waiting N9 to be huge success, because i'm sure nobody in this thread is.
People are just wanting a phone they like.

The dreamer part of me is hoping...
But the pragmatist in me is saying: "no chance in hell".

[PortaDiFerro]

So they are actually trying to compete with iPhone by having itunes sync? Maybe it could lure few people over, but I think Apple fans are even more fanatic than Linux fans. :)

[mikecomputing]

Nice photos taken with N9 by QGil :-)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/quimgil/sets/72157627467200922

[mikecomputing]

So they are actually trying to compete with iPhone by having itunes sync? Maybe it could lure few people over, but I think Apple fans are even more fanatic than Linux fans. :)

I know some Iphone users who wouldn't mind buy N9 until MrFlop open his ****ing mouth!

However, I doubt they will buy WP7 soo MrFlop failed even more muahaha.

[catbus]

http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/08/23/nokia-link-sync-your-n9/

And Mac too.

If this is Qt-program, maybe it could run under linux too?

[jalyst]

http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/08/dev-logs-suggest-iphone-5-is-dual-mode-coming-in-sept-with-8gb-iphone-4.ars

Very interesting developments...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/23/south-korea-brings-the-big-guns-to-the-mobile-os-knife-fight/#disqus_thread

WTF don't they just jump on-board with MeeGo goddammit! (heck LG already kinda is)
Do they mistrust Intel??

Still, looks like there's room for that in the coming months...
But it seems more likely they'll come up with their own home-brew jointly, or do nothing.

[jalyst]

So they are actually trying to compete with iPhone by having itunes sync? Maybe it could lure few people over, but I think Apple fans are even more fanatic than Linux fans. :)

They often overlap... :)
I've been a hardcore Apple fan for years.
But that doesn't mean I don't like my *nix.
But I think that's limited more to "neckbeard" types.
LOL, I love that expression!

[jn183]

Damn $1000USD for that in Denmark. nvm...

[jalyst]

If this is Qt-program, maybe it could run under linux too?


Good point...
Not sure if Nokia Link's designed as a native app for Win/OSX.
If it's Qt, then Linux/Win/OSX desktop OS's could be supported.
Then again, not sure how decent Qt is on Win/OSX.
Haven't tried installing a Qt-based app recently...

[somedude]

If this nokia link could be also setup in mac to sync using bluetooth it would be awsome..... everynight after getting home it will sync with the computer automatically if both the bluetooth is set to on

[giorgosmit]

Very interesting developments...
[url]http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/23/south-korea-brings-the-big-guns-to-the-mobile-os-knife-fight/#disqus_thread

WTF don't they just jump on-board with MeeGo goddammit! (heck LG already kinda is)
Do they mistrust Intel??

Still, looks like there's room for that in the coming months...
But it seems more likely they'll come up with their own home-brew jointly, or do nothing.


What... the... I knew about the north Korean Linux distro, but I never imagined I'd see a commercial south Korean mobile OS. We live and learn, don't we. Maybe they want an OS they can control, but with the backing of the Korean goverment... Don't quote me on that, but I think that the relations between Korean megaconglomerates and the Korean goverment are significantly snugglier than what we have in EU/ US. If that thing happened here (meaning US/ EU), we'd have politicos and pundits, consumer groups, lobbies and companies go into a free-for-all.

[catbus]

Not sure if Nokia Link's designed as a native app for Win/OSX.
If it's Qt, then Linux/Win/OSX desktop OS's could be supported.

That would be nice...

Then again, not sure how decent Qt is on Win/OSX.
Haven't tried installing a Qt-based app recently...

VLC is somehow based on Qt but maybe only interface. So if Videolan can do it then... :confused:

[Grazy]

UK users, one more retailer you may (or may not) be aware of:

http://www.mobiles.co.uk/vodafone-nokia-n9.html

Mobiles.co.uk is a sister company of Carphone Warehouse.

Also note the URL mentions 'vodafone', but I don't know whether or not that is correct.

:)

Cool! this is great news! I'm surprised there isn't more excitement about this! it does appear i can just upgrade through mobiles.co.uk!

well spotted!

[lysseslukker]

3 can not decide when they will get the n9. now they said in the begin of october. I hope they will chance the price too.

[catbus]

3 can not decide when they will get the n9. now they said in the begin of october. I hope they will chance the price too.

They throw the dice? Hope not with the price...

"by catbus"

[Pillum]

That would be nice...



VLC is somehow based on Qt but maybe only interface. So if Videolan can do it then... :confused:

I've coded several tools with Qt on Windows..It's execellent, whether on mac or windows or linux (and soon iphone, too!)

[buchanmilne]

Good point...
Not sure if Nokia Link's designed as a native app for Win/OSX.
If it's Qt, then Linux/Win/OSX desktop OS's could be supported.
Then again, not sure how decent Qt is on Win/OSX.
Haven't tried installing a Qt-based app recently...

Current versions of Ovi Suite are in Qt ... while it may not be the most bug-free app, it look decent enough (but, for example, menus aren't native)?

[PortaDiFerro]

Current versions of Ovi Suite are in Qt ... while it may not be the most bug-free app, it look decent enough (but, for example, menus aren't native)?

Yet they've never bothered with Linux version anyway. Such discrimination! :(

[Kozzi]

Video demos:

Jamify for N9(50) in action (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ4SO05x7bY)
PasswordMaker for n9(50) in action (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8sy9yUTOnY)

Butaca by spenap (http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=4195):

Butaca is an application which allows accessing a lot of movie-related information. It uses The Movie Database as a backend, and lets you:

Browse movie genres
Search for movies and people
Shows title, rating, release date, overview and cast for movies
Shows name, birthplace, date of birth, biography and filmography for people
Allows keeping content as favorite (both movies and people)
Allows sharing content using the system share interface
Search movie showtimes (launching the web browser agains Google Movies)
Check what's on cinemas near you (also using the web browser)



http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6132/6039516918_1d78bb1e67_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bulfaiter/6039516918/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6191/6039519642_6ca7dcac12_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bulfaiter/6039519642/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6185/6039518484_e1217818c0_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bulfaiter/6039518484/) http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6209/6038968243_7db4b0b528_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bulfaiter/6038968243/)


MyMoves Quick Update (http://sandst1.wordpress.com/2011/08/23/i-see-some-raw-motion/):

Read a great set of XInput2 blog posts by Peter Hutterer and fiddled around with the code examples,
and the end-result is nice: System-wide multi-touch events!

So. Next up in the MyMoves roadmap will be refactoring it for multi-touch support.

N950 is getting 6 simultaneous touches, will that be enough for gestures?: P

[jalyst]

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/2011/08/is-samsung-aiming-to-snap-up-hps-pc-business.ars

[jalyst]

MyMoves Quick Update (http://sandst1.wordpress.com/2011/08/23/i-see-some-raw-motion/):

Yeah he mentioned that in the comments (http://sandst1.wordpress.com/2011/08/22/introducing-mymoves-system-wide-gestures-for-harmattan/#comment-30) section of his previous blog post too.
Getting better every day! w00t!! :D

[Pillum]

Current versions of Ovi Suite are in Qt ... while it may not be the most bug-free app, it look decent enough (but, for example, menus aren't native)?

Normally, in Qt everything is native, but for Ovi Suite it seems like they intentionally made it non-native.

[Lindegaard]

Damn $1000USD for that in Denmark. nvm...

Well, everything in Denmark is expensive becuase of our high earnings.

You can also pre-order N9 at Telia. The cheapest contract is 5000dkr after 6 months.
In comparison, its 400dkr more expensive than the Samsung G2.
It's the same with 3, N9 cost 55xx dkr with contract and the Samsung cost 49xx dkr

Iphone 4 32g cost 59xx dkr @ 3, and 58xx dkr @ Telia

So to conclude of the Danish market price, the N9 will be priced in between SG2 and iphone 4 32gb and approx the same price as iphone 16gb.

These prices are after 6 months total cost with a contract

[mikecomputing]

Yet they've never bothered with Linux version anyway. Such discrimination! :(

welcome to the world of Microsoft and Apple....

[erendorn]

welcome to the world of Microsoft and Apple....

lol, I was just looking at the pentax website for upgrading the firmware of my dslr, and the upgrade download comes in two versions:
- Windows (actualy a .exe which is a self extracting zip)
- Maccintosh (actualy a .zip)
The archive only contains a readme and a .bin to put on the cam sd card...
I'll send them a mail so that they add a "linux version" :)

[hotnikkelz]

some nice symbian news imo for those interested
http://www.conversations.nokia.com

Looking pretty tempting these days imo

[pedroesteban]

Nokia n8 price @ Amazon.com is going up after Anna's release and Belle's anouncement.

[catbus]

Pelle is coming and everybody will forget N9?

[erendorn]

Pelle is coming and everybody will forget N9?

Hopefully, Belle is comming, which mean Qt symbian apps are still in the pipeline, and we can still have some cross-compilation for N9 (as these cross-compiled apps seem to be already much more numerous than they ever were for the N900)

[Kjow]

"Nokia Italia (http://www.telefonino.net/Nokia/Notizie/n27906/Nokia-conferma-il-Nokia-N9-non-Italia.html)" said officially that N9 will NOT be sold in Italy...

(From Google translate for non italians (http://translate.google.it/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=it&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telefonino.net%2FNokia%2FNotizi e%2Fn27906%2FNokia-conferma-il-Nokia-N9-non-Italia.html))

[lysseslukker]

I have just read at 3 website, that n9 have the best aerial of all phone they have tried:D
http://www.3.dk/d/nokia-n9-meego/

[Lindegaard]

I have just read at 3 website, that n9 have the best aerial of all phone they have tried:D
http://www.3.dk/d/nokia-n9-meego/
Well, 3 is really, really fond of Apple so it don't need that big an effort to impress them :P

This is the google translated link:
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=da&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=da&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.3.dk%2Fd%2Fnokia-n9-meego%2F


to lyseslukker, hvad er din mening om 3's netværk? Jeg har en N8'er og jeg oplever tit når jeg er andre steder end storkøbenhavn at signalet forsinder midlertidigt når den skal gå fra 3g til 2g. (det skal dog siges at jeg pt har oister som bruger 3's netværk, min kæreste oplever det samme med hendes iphone4 (hvid)).
Jeg tror dog jeg venter til N9 kommer i 16gb versionen for jeg vil gerne have den i blå, den sorte er lidt for "normal" og hvis jeg skal have en N9 i stedet for fx Samsung g2 så skal den kunne skille sig lidt ud. Prisen på 64gb afskrækker mig dog ikke og hvis 16gben er bare en lille smule billgere gør det jo heller ikke noget.

[vi_]

Well, 3 is really, really fond of Apple so it don't need that big an effort to impress them :P

This is the google translated link:
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=da&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=da&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.3.dk%2Fd%2Fnokia-n9-meego%2F


to lyseslukker, hvad er din mening om 3's netværk? Jeg har en N8'er og jeg oplever tit når jeg er andre steder end storkøbenhavn at signalet forsinder midlertidigt når den skal gå fra 3g til 2g. (det skal dog siges at jeg pt har oister som bruger 3's netværk, min kæreste oplever det samme med hendes iphone4 (hvid)).
Jeg tror dog jeg venter til N9 kommer i 16gb versionen for jeg vil gerne have den i blå, den sorte er lidt for "normal" og hvis jeg skal have en N9 i stedet for fx Samsung g2 så skal den kunne skille sig lidt ud. Prisen på 64gb afskrækker mig dog ikke og hvis 16gben er bare en lille smule billgere gør det jo heller ikke noget.

say what?

With app Alien Dalvik running MeeGo (hence Nokia N9) Android applications, so besides the QT apps that are already in Nokia (and there are many) can then also use them from Android. It is like a combination that works.

----------

[erendorn]

say what?

hum... who is the "Tommy Lindegaard Nielsen" quoted for that? I don't really believe it somehow.

[lysseslukker]

#vi_
it is Danish. just translate it, but it is only about 3 coverage in Denmark:D

#lindegaard

i can`t say enything about 3 network, because I have TDC. I have same thought about the blue and black version, the blue version is more special. All mobiles are black today and I feel it a bit borring:D

[jalyst]

Well, everything in Denmark is expensive becuase of our high earnings.

You can also pre-order N9 at Telia. The cheapest contract is 5000dkr after 6 months.
In comparison, its 400dkr more expensive than the Samsung G2.
It's the same with 3, N9 cost 55xx dkr with contract and the Samsung cost 49xx dkr

Iphone 4 32g cost 59xx dkr @ 3, and 58xx dkr @ Telia

So to conclude of the Danish market price, the N9 will be priced in between SG2 and iphone 4 32gb and approx the same price as iphone 16gb.

These prices are after 6 months total cost with a contract

Is that for 64GB N9?
Sounds pretty reasonable overall.
But only for you guys, because you have subsidization.
It'll be diff. for many other countries :(
Plus iP4 16/32 are likely to go down in price, once the iP5 & iP4 8GB are out.

[catbus]

Again three new Symbian phones today, coming soon (Q3) and no sign of the N9... What is the real problem with release?...

Dear Nokia-fellows... Yes, You! Right behind laptop screen! - Tell us what is the reason for delay

(and f**k nda...)

[jalyst]

say what?



----------

Yeah whoever Tommy Lindegaard Nielsen is... I call BS.
We have no idea whether Alien Dalvik will even happen yet.
And it's not the panacea, it will be a nice addition though IMO.

Random readings:
http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2011/08/google-to-pay-500-million-for-facilitating-illegal-drug-transactions.ars
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/08/partial-eu-victory-for-apple-dutch-judge-bans-galaxy-s-sii-and-ace.ars

[unfuccwittable]

Apparently, the new Iphone will be released in October, if the Wall Street Journal is to be believed.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111903327904576526690675657466.html

[catbus]

^Who cares...

[tissot]

Seems like there could be white soft cover available for N9 in the future or on the launch already.
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/08/24/official-silicon-cover-for-n9-white-blue-black-green-and-pink/

Probably what we have seen that blond using rather than actually white N9.

[larux]

Seems like there could be white soft cover available for N9 in the future or on the launch already.
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/08/24/official-silicon-cover-for-n9-white-blue-black-green-and-pink/

Probably what we have seen that blond using rather than actually white N9.

No. It's not. I have seen a working white proto and was worried if final versions are white also. Fortunately colors are what we already know.

I wouldn't be suprised if there were white version of Searay though.

[catbus]

Yes, "have seen"... But we will never have this or that blond... Everytime Nokia tell something is, "symbian this or that" or "micro$lot eco$ystem"...

[tissot]

No. It's not. I have seen a working white proto and was worried if final versions are white also. Fortunately colors are what we already know.

I wouldn't be suprised if there were white version of Searay though.

Yes i know and i have heard about the white model and there being actual protos of it, but the blonde isn't holding one and there isn't pic of it out there.

[unfuccwittable]

^Who cares...
It was rumored that the Iphone 5 would be released next month, around the time the N9 would be released. If the October date is real, then I suspect that the N9 may fare a teeny tiny bit better in the marketplace since it has a bit of a head start.

[catbus]

It was rumored that the Iphone 5 would be released next month,

So?

around the time the N9 would be released. If the October date is real, then I suspect that the N9 may fare a teeny tiny bit better in the marketplace since it has a bit of a head start.

We don't want Iphone... We don't want marketplace... We want N9!

[mikecomputing]

some nice symbian news imo for those interested
http://www.conversations.nokia.com

Looking pretty tempting these days imo

Belle now seems to be Fully QtQuick+QtComponent enabled.

yet another reason I dont get why Nokia need WP7 :O

Hope it sells like hell. But I guess it will not release it in UK/US/german same story as N9...

[mikecomputing]

Hopefully, Belle is comming, which mean Qt symbian apps are still in the pipeline, and we can still have some cross-compilation for N9 (as these cross-compiled apps seem to be already much more numerous than they ever were for the N900)

yes latest QtCreator is really really really is MUCH better than before.

yesterday I continue development for a new app and compiled it for n900CE, N900fremantle and harmattan. Could not test symbian cause I on a linux host and only remote compile supported on linux host. But shouldn't be that hard to setup that too. Hopefully I will get some time test it on friday :)

its just a click away most the times :)

most the times no need for scratchbox anymore :)

[mikecomputing]

"Nokia Italia (http://www.telefonino.net/Nokia/Notizie/n27906/Nokia-conferma-il-Nokia-N9-non-Italia.html)" said officially that N9 will NOT be sold in Italy...

(From Google translate for non italians (http://translate.google.it/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=it&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telefonino.net%2FNokia%2FNotizi e%2Fn27906%2FNokia-conferma-il-Nokia-N9-non-Italia.html))

Great yet another european country raped by Microsoft.... :mad:

[catbus]

Belle now seems to be Fully QtQuick+QtComponent enabled.

yet another reason I dont get why Nokia need WP7 :O

I wonder that too... :confused:



Hope it sells like hell. But I guess it will not release it in UK/US/german same story as N9...

Only thing we can hope is... That we get our... N9! :D

[catbus]

Great yet another european country raped by Microsoft.... :mad:

"Nokia ha inoltre dichiarato che l'hardware del Nokia N9 verrà probabilmente riutilizzato per altri smartphone." :confused:

What? They will/want use N9 hardware for other models (WP)?

Could someone from Italy translate this?

WTF is **** häppening?

[shallimus]

Anyone else struggling with a feeling about N9 [non-]availability which goes a little something like this: You won the lotto and bought a large castle on Mars with room for all your friends. It even comes with a robot butler and faster-than-light spaceship...

...and then you wake up and it turns out that instead of living it up on the Red Planet, in fact you're still stuck on Earth and now an evil developer is knocking your perfectly adequate house down to make way for a landfill, which they are loudly proclaiming you will enjoy living in because it can sync with your garbage and recycling bin.

Just me then? ;)

[bequezox]

Well, 3 is really, really fond of Apple so it don't need that big an effort to impress them :P

This is the google translated link:
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=da&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=da&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.3.dk%2Fd%2Fnokia-n9-meego%2F


to lyseslukker, hvad er din mening om 3's netværk? Jeg har en N8'er og jeg oplever tit når jeg er andre steder end storkøbenhavn at signalet forsinder midlertidigt når den skal gå fra 3g til 2g. (det skal dog siges at jeg pt har oister som bruger 3's netværk, min kæreste oplever det samme med hendes iphone4 (hvid)).
Jeg tror dog jeg venter til N9 kommer i 16gb versionen for jeg vil gerne have den i blå, den sorte er lidt for "normal" og hvis jeg skal have en N9 i stedet for fx Samsung g2 så skal den kunne skille sig lidt ud. Prisen på 64gb afskrækker mig dog ikke og hvis 16gben er bare en lille smule billgere gør det jo heller ikke noget.

I have used 3 as well for a short period in dk.. As you mention the change between 2/3g is sometimes a bit of a problem, but i usually only use 3g for when i need to fetch something larger than edge-friendly..

I really don't like their support, though, so i changed, when they ten times within a year sent me a bill for a phone i'd never received.

I used the N95 and shortly the N900 @ 3's network, and they both stalled when shifting networks :(.. i guess they could just make the phone search for 2g networks when 3g coverage is low, but apperantly they dont.. propably battery-related, though..?

[scapegoat845]

"Nokia ha inoltre dichiarato che l'hardware del Nokia N9 verrà probabilmente riutilizzato per altri smartphone." :confused:

What? They will/want use N9 hardware for other models (WP)?

Could someone from Italy translate this?

WTF is **** häppening?


Nokia also said that the hardware will probably be reused for Nokia N9 other smartphones

[catbus]

Nokia also said that the hardware will probably be reused for Nokia N9 other smartphones

This was "google-translate"... Could it be "probably Nokia reuse N9 hardware to other smartphones" - Can someone confirm which translation is correct?

[unfuccwittable]

So?



We don't want Iphone... We don't want marketplace... We want N9!
ugh, you're an idiot.

[danramos]

I keep having to repeat this to people on these forums but... *sigh* here goes...
I told you so.
Nokia WILL screw you. I wouldn't bother wasting my money on the brand that pisses all over their customers repeatedly.

Nokia doesn't want to hear your gripes. So if you're STILL interested in buying one--you should be happy you can get one and shut your pie-hole and whistle a happy tune in your own corner while everybody else goes off and does fun or constructive stuff. I had hoped some OTHER manufacturer would come along to take up MeeGo but it looks like Nokia's pissed all over that brand enough (and Intel is doing so little for it) that it's looking bleak.

[jalyst]

It was rumored that the Iphone 5 would be released next month, around the time the N9 would be released. If the October date is real, then I suspect that the N9 may fare a teeny tiny bit better in the marketplace since it has a bit of a head start.

Don't hold your breathe,

Latest "speculation" for Australia is that it may not actually be available anywhere (retail channel/carriers) before October 1st.
Now Australia was long rumored as one of the 1st release regions. My original absolute deadline was Sept30... hrmzzzz :mad:

What is clear, is that this isn't a delivery problem anymore. We're clearly getting into "WP7x leg up" territory :(

[jalyst]

Funny how MeeGo's not getting the same love from MS that Belle is:

New apps by Microsoft
(IM app Lync, Sharepoint, OneNote, Exchange ActiveSync and PowerPoint Broadcaster)

An OS that's no longer being heavily developed after Belle, & will be totally phased-out in 2016.
So much for MeeGo being for future ****ing disruptions hey Elop?! :mad:

http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/08/24/introducing-symbian-belle/

Anyone wanna take bets that Symbian (despite being officially canned) will be around way longer than Nokia MeeGo?

[jalyst]

smoothing the way for WP only forever in the US
http://mynokiablog.com/2011/08/24/nokia-usa-site-gets-new-look/

[marrat]

Funny how MeeGo's not getting the same love from MS that Belle is:



An OS that's no longer being heavily developed after Belle, & will be totally phased-out in 2016.
So much for MeeGo being for future ****ing disruptions hey Elop?! :mad:

http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/08/24/introducing-symbian-belle/

Anyone wanna take bets that Symbian (despite being officially canned) will be around way longer than Nokia MeeGo?

Symbian is no Linux, MeeGo is. That should explain MS' behaviour here...

[Pillum]

Microsoft officially said Linux is no enemy anymore

And with WP7 replacing Meego, they're right ;(

[marrat]

Don't hold your breathe,

Latest "speculation" for Australia is that it may not actually be available anywhere (retail channel/carriers) before October 1st.
Now Australia was long rumored as one of the 1st release regions. My original absolute deadline was Sept30... hrmzzzz :mad:

What is clear, is that this isn't a delivery problem anymore. We're clearly getting into "WP7x leg up" territory :(

If that's true, in other countries it'll come even later...

Then I might have to get a Nokia 701 in the meantime, which is said to hit the market still in Q3 (that is by end of September) even in Germany.

[ziller]

smoothing the way for WP only forever in the US
http://mynokiablog.com/2011/08/24/nokia-usa-site-gets-new-look/

Smoothing with the wrong device then... (notice the background image on http://www.nokiausa.com/us-en/apps/ )

Full size here: http://i.nokia.com/image/view/-/90286/highRes/1/-/apps-bg-1-jpg.jpg

[danramos]

Smoothing with the wrong device then... (notice the background image on http://www.nokiausa.com/us-en/apps/ )

Full size here: http://i.nokia.com/image/view/-/90286/highRes/1/-/apps-bg-1-jpg.jpg

Alright! Who ARTED??

[erendorn]

This was "google-translate"... Could it be "probably Nokia reuse N9 hardware to other smartphones" - Can someone confirm which translation is correct?
Nope, scapegoat845 is correct.

[Jedibeeftrix]

n9 at mobiles.co.uk = "now discontinued" :(

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/08/24/nokia-n9-at-carphone-warehouses-mobiles-co-uk-store/

[jalyst]

Have a look through all the comments....
http://mynokiablog.com/2011/08/24/nokia-n9-at-carphone-warehouses-mobiles-co-uk-store/
If that's not a smoking gun that Nokia's actively sabotaging this ph chances, then I don't know what the **** is.

Random readings:
http://mynokiablog.com/2011/08/24/30000-apps-on-windows-phone-market-place-and-app-rant/
Saw someone else mention this...
http://blog.seattlepi.com/microsoft/2011/07/29/microsofts-windows-phone-revenue-613-million-at-the-very-most/

[Lindegaard]

a bit ironic with the N900 in the background but I think the site is sleek and very simple.

[jalyst]

@Jedibeeftrix

beat me to it by 1-min :)

[catbus]

Random link:

http://bit.ly/prcKAt

[jalyst]

http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/08/application-profiletimer-nokia-n9-n950-meego-harmattan/
http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/08/qt5-distance-field-effects/

Meego device, but not a ph.
http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/08/unboxing-trim-slice-pro/

[strongm]

n9 at mobiles.co.uk = "now discontinued" :(

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/08/24/nokia-n9-at-carphone-warehouses-mobiles-co-uk-store/

That's for a phone on contract.

[Kjow]

This was "google-translate"... Could it be "probably Nokia reuse N9 hardware to other smartphones" - Can someone confirm which translation is correct?

Yes, it is.

The hardware of N9 will likely be used for other smartphones.

[jalyst]

gaaaahhh!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://mynokiablog.com/2011/08/25/save-the-dates-nokia-windows-phone-training-could-there-be-nwp-handsets-for-developers/

[jalyst]

I'm so like the hulk right now.
Abut to rage on something.... :( :)

[delmar]

Yes, it is.

The hardware of N9 will likely be used for other smartphones.

Quote, this is the correct translation.

But I think that can not be Elophones, because they request other hw-specs. Maybe they mean only the case and formfactor.

Edit = addet the case/form-thing.

[jalyst]

Smoothing with the wrong device then... (notice the background image on http://www.nokiausa.com/us-en/apps/ )

Full size here: http://i.nokia.com/image/view/-/90286/highRes/1/-/apps-bg-1-jpg.jpg

N900... Bwhahaha that's gold!! :D
I like to think it's some disgruntled employee, getting his/her revenge.

[mikecomputing]

I keep having to repeat this to people on these forums but... *sigh* here goes...
I told you so.
Nokia WILL screw you. I wouldn't bother wasting my money on the brand that pisses all over their customers repeatedly.

Nokia doesn't want to hear your gripes. So if you're STILL interested in buying one--you should be happy you can get one and shut your pie-hole and whistle a happy tune in your own corner while everybody else goes off and does fun or constructive stuff. I had hoped some OTHER manufacturer would come along to take up MeeGo but it looks like Nokia's pissed all over that brand enough (and Intel is doing so little for it) that it's looking bleak.


blablablabla

[mikecomputing]

Funny how MeeGo's not getting the same love from MS that Belle is:



An OS that's no longer being heavily developed after Belle, & will be totally phased-out in 2016.
So much for MeeGo being for future ****ing disruptions hey Elop?! :mad:

http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/08/24/introducing-symbian-belle/

Anyone wanna take bets that Symbian (despite being officially canned) will be around way longer than Nokia MeeGo?

what do yo eexpect!? Microsoft has never allowed anyone to port Microsoft crap apps to Linux. Thats the biggest reason Nokia was raped by Microsoft... and btw. Microsoft hadnt allowed full support for On symbian if it wasnt for Microsoft and the new board is tryung to kill it at the same time....

[Zoxir]

Why the f**k don't they just announce they will be canceling this so we can all go home and end up with so fartroid phone??

[bbin]

Why the f**k don't they just announce they will be canceling this so we can all go home and end up with so fartroid phone??

Maybe because it won't be cancelled???

[don_falcone]

Maybe because it won't be cancelled???

You lay trust in Nokia?

[smegheadz]

i'm not buying an 'ecosystem' i'm not buying an extension to my penis, i'm not buying a sense of superiority over the isheep or aptly named androids.
i'm not buying shares. i'm not buying hugs and hand holding.

It's a PHONE. a piece of hardware and software that have a particular purpose. It has things which appeal to me on top of the functions i expect and need from a phone. it as potential for so many things just like the n900, i like linux even though i really know feck all of the system, i've been following oss since late 90's so i would pick something that is open over closed if it is just as good.

The only reason you guys should be getting this is if for the things you are getting with it. complaining about what your not getting doesn't do anything and *****ing about support etc is pointless. you know the story and the possibilities of what might and might not happen with it. I've never seen so many people say so much yet say so little. nobody's going to comfort you in your grief of having to go with android because "flop" didn't do what you wanted. were not going to try convince you to buy it.

i for one will probably get it once i get a chance to test it or see the general feedback on the email. i will also be keeping my n900 as it's a one of a kind that i probably won't see for years to come if ever.

[jalyst]

Make it happen Mozilla! The panacea -if there ever was one.
http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/08/mozilla-webapi-wants-to-replace-native-apps-with-html5.ars
It's a long-shot, but an admirable one to attempt.....

[jalyst]

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2011/08/first-mango-phone-hits-market-tomorrow-general-availability-soon.ars

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/25/microsoft-front-facing-cameras-skype-integration-coming-with-m/
And here we are still waiting for official confirmation from Nokia about what sort of vid-chat support we can expect for MeeGo, sigh.

[giorgosmit]

@jalyst: I just could not help laughing when I read that headline. Skype integration? Reeeeeally now? Frankly, I don't like a "smart" OS when its users have to cheer about skype and external storage support and work around barriers to get native apps running. An app store is not an excuse for crippled out of the box functionality.

[catbus]

http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/08/25/nokia-n9-may-have-a-total-of-five-color-versions/ - more colors... when ever it comes...

[medri]

http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/08/nokia-t7-00-appears-ovi-store-supporting-meego/

WTF? Nokia T7 with MeeGo support?

[catbus]

http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/08/nokia-t7-00-appears-ovi-store-supporting-meego/

WTF? Nokia T7 with MeeGo support?

thanks to a heart attack ... :)

There is no T7 or N9 in ovi-store (spain)

[abill_uk]

The dramatics on this thread are second to none hahahahaha

[abill_uk]

You all remind me of a kid kicking and screaming cos mummie did not give you some sweeties :p

[tissot]

Though isn't T7 announced long time ago? it's N8 for Chinese market.

[abill_uk]

For gawds sake go look it up.... it is a Nokia symbian crap mobile.

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_t7-3915.php

[giorgosmit]

You all remind me of a kid kicking and screaming cos mummie did not give you some sweeties :p

Which makes you the lonely, slightly strange kid perpetually accompanied by an unidentifiable wafting odor that doesn't miss the opportunity to mock the aforementioned biscuit deprived youth from a safe distance, I presume? :p

[tissot]

For gawds sake go look it up.... it is a Nokia symbian crap mobile.

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_t7-3915.php

I knew somebody would look it up for me so i didn't bother. ;)

I really wasn't expecting Nokia to continue this long with not announcing anything about N9 release date. It sure shows in this thread.

[abill_uk]

Which makes you the lonely, slightly strange kid perpetually accompanied by an unidentifiable wafting odor that doesn't miss the opportunity to mock the aforementioned biscuit deprived youth from a safe distance, I presume? :p

HAHAHA that was funny but no.... i am only reading the posts on here ALL 4679 of them :p and it makes me realise what a bunch of kids we got on here :D

[catbus]

I really wasn't expecting Nokia to continue this long with not announcing anything about N9 release date. It sure shows in this thread.

it applies only to a particular model

[abill_uk]

I knew somebody would look it up for me so i didn't bother. ;)

I really wasn't expecting Nokia to continue this long with not announcing anything about N9 release date. It sure shows in this thread.

I got a release date from Nokia for the N9... the 3rd Sept, but i wait and see and if they are telling me the truth then so be it... i will have 20 of them on that date BUT i will not hold my breath :rolleyes:, i will be a patient ADULT waiting quietly in the background :p

[jn183]

I just wish I could get Meego running on Mytouch 4GS and end my misery. Only reason I like N9 is the sleek design. If I could tweak N900 to have N9 spec, then forget N9.

I hope there is more to Meego than what I have seen so far. It's a downgrade from Maemo, imo. Less customization more toward Andriod/iOS. There is only 1 screen in reality and 1 is pretty much an app screen which I dislike and the other is a minimize screen. Maemo N900 technically has 6screens base on all the Meego preview. Ugly bookmark too. Can't even put a nice picture in my bookmark icon it seems.

http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=6069&stc=1&d=1263931821

Maemo has so much potential and so flexible. Meego is still flexible but getting stiff. With N9 having no KB, just make Meego even more stiff. All these delays and uncertainty just depressing. /end of rant. :D

[unfuccwittable]

^lol @ whining about the ability (or lack thereof, rather) to change pictures of ****ing bookmarks.

[mikecomputing]

Sad too see Steve Jobs leaves Apple.

It would be way better if Stephen Elop leaved Nokia RIGHT NOW!!!

Atleast Jobs did have control of his company. Now something we can say about MrFlop :(

[jalyst]

This is ****ing epic news, read the 1st 3 posts, then read the blog post xsacha links to:
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1735543&p=27#r531
I posted a whole bunch of questions/thoughts in his BLOG post.
But for some reason my freaking posts kept disappearing!

I thought it was the blog owner at first....
But I think it might simply be some weird filtering that disqus does.
I was using [ ] to enclose comments of his that I was addressing.
I think disqus SPAM filtering must've mistaken it for SPAM!?
Grrrr... so annoying! :mad: :mad:

[jalyst]

I got a release date from Nokia for the N9... the 3rd Sept, but i wait and see and if they are telling me the truth then so be it... i will have 20 of them on that date BUT i will not hold my breath :rolleyes:, i will be a patient ADULT waiting quietly in the background :p

Yeah sure you did.

[jalyst]

Sad too see Steve Jobs leaves Apple.
It would be way better if Stephen Elop leaved Nokia RIGHT NOW!!!<SNIP>

LOL, at least you're consistent in your hate. :D

[mikecomputing]

I got a release date from Nokia for the N9... the 3rd Sept, but i wait and see and if they are telling me the truth then so be it... i will have 20 of them on that date BUT i will not hold my breath :rolleyes:, i will be a patient ADULT waiting quietly in the background :p

not fun joke. 3 september is a saturday... if you didnt mean 2012

[giorgosmit]

Sad too see Steve Jobs leaves Apple.

Jobs, love him or hate him, had a vision, and the cojones to shove it in the throat of the tech industry. And I am among those who believe that this grit of his did, in fact, change the tech industry.

Now, compare his attitude to that of guys like Apotheker or Elop. Yes, it would be ridiculous to demand every CEO to have such a personal way of reigning as Jobs, but all those guys strike me as drones without any kind of vision save what the shareholders say in the short term. Apotheker fumbled webOS and dropped the towel within six months, without having really released anything. Elop killed two OSes in the eyes of devs and buyers while still paying to upkeep them, and it's maddening to see symbian being killed just as it looks like having a fighting chance and the N9 commiting suicide by selective market deployment.

Jobs gave me, in short, the impression of playing a chess match in the long term, while the other guys... dunno, solitaire?

[abill_uk]

not fun joke. 3 september is a saturday... if you didnt mean 2012

It had better be a saturday or my plans go down the drain !

[jalyst]

People read that link I provided a few posts back, some exciting tidbits!
Some downers too, as it seems NFC payments will never be an option for the N9 (even with future software updates).

Yikes 430am... AGAIN... Goodnight.

[jn183]

^lol @ whining about the ability (or lack thereof, rather) to change pictures of ****ing bookmarks.

The bookmark was just an example of Maemo flexibility. Meego is showing sign it's going toward Apple route. Hope Intel will fix that

If you read more, then you would see other things about Meego that make Maemo better. 1 real screen. 2nd screen is just app screen aka iPhone. 3rd screen could have been like Maemo and be activated by a button. Same could be said for the app screen. If you look at all the screenshot from other peers using N900's maemo, then you won't see more than 5% of them showing a screen full of app button. It's not needed. Widget over app button. The expand screen is nice but still not enough space when you only have 1 real homescreen.

My guess is most people don't use every single app every day every hour. Maemo hiding the app was the best way.

It's call less customization. That was the point and more dumped down to be like other OS.

[catbus]

not fun joke. 3 september is a saturday... if you didnt mean 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvB6rrnzDM8

[giorgosmit]

@jn183: I think it's just as practical. The N900 could never multitask like the N9- one fourth the ram insures that. Even so, there are a lot of people that use the task switching screen to keep the most used applications open and ready to use. I love the press once for open apps, press two for app catalog arrangement of maemo. In my opinion all those high falutin' multitask paradigms of the other platforms pale in comparison when it comes to usability. I too leave apps open in the background routinely on the N900, and it will be even easier on the N9.I already imagine that I will leave stuff like the dialer and SMS/ IM open and notes open in the background all the time in routine usage.

Now, as to the dumbing down of the OS: Don't confuse the UI with the OS. Yes, the UI is closed, and yes, maemo 6/ harmattan is more closed that fremantle. Honestly, I'd rather have full meego with a open or semi open skin on it. But it is probably the most open OS on the market, especially now that webOS has bitten the dust. If we don't like the UI, somebody with more talent than me could probably write an open alternative. You can't do that on the iphone. Nor can you run daemons on the background, enable dev mode with the press of a button, set up a chroot, change the kernel to one without DRM shite etc etc. The fact that it can do that stuff AND appear to be friendly to non-linux-users is a triumph. A second take on the N900, as much as a lot of us would love it, would tank even harder, when it comes to sales, than the current one.

[unfuccwittable]

@jn183: I think it's just as practical. The N900 could never multitask like the N9- one fourth the ram insures that. Even so, there are a lot of people that use the task switching screen to keep the most used applications open and ready to use. I love the press once for open apps, press two for app catalog arrangement of maemo. In my opinion all those high falutin' multitask paradigms of the other platforms pale in comparison when it comes to usability. I too leave apps open in the background routinely on the N900, and it will be even easier on the N9.I already imagine that I will leave stuff like the dialer and SMS/ IM open and notes open in the background all the time in routine usage.

Now, as to the dumbing down of the OS: Don't confuse the UI with the OS. Yes, the UI is closed, and yes, maemo 6/ harmattan is more closed that fremantle. Honestly, I'd rather have full meego with a open or semi open skin on it. But it is probably the most open OS on the market, especially now that webOS has bitten the dust. If we don't like the UI, somebody with more talent than me could probably write an open alternative. You can't do that on the iphone. Nor can you run daemons on the background, enable dev mode with the press of a button, set up a chroot, change the kernel to one without DRM shite etc etc. The fact that it can do that stuff AND appear to be friendly to non-linux-users is a triumph. A second take on the N900, as much as a lot of us would love it, would tank even harder, when it comes to sales, than the current one.
finally someone that understands, your linux phone needs to actually be a ****ing phone first. sure there may be a couple things we lose here and there going from N900 to N9, but I think the bump in "stuff just working" is great for the platform. It legitimizes linux as viable platform for mass market. Make no mistake, the N9 COULD BE a mass market device, but Nokia has seen fit to restrict it to niches.

I can't tell you how many times I've gotten a call while doing something on my N900 and the phone just hangs while trying to switch from the app I'm in to the phone call in portrait. Often times, I miss the phone call entirely as it takes too long for me to answer it.

[catbus]

^ Could it be still some problems with SW of N9... Cool UI and softwares, but you can't make a phonecall? Or what is delaying it? (Elopgate ofcourse but that can't be real...)

I just got email from trusted person and he said that N9 will come and before christmas... So let's wait...

"
From: Sitting Bull
"

[unfuccwittable]

^I believe someone posted an article earlier recounting the experience of an executive of a major national european carrier using an N9 in a densely wooded area of their network and still maintaining full 3g service where other phones barely registered 2g. I don't think we need to worry about the N9 not making phone calls.

[catbus]

^I believe someone posted an article earlier recounting the experience of an executive of a major national european carrier using an N9 in a densely wooded area of their network and still maintaining full 3g service where other phones barely registered 2g. I don't think we need to worry about the N9 not making phone calls.

You read it? ;)

Actually i meant software that makes that call, not how good N9 is by hardware... And Yes, I will get N9, asap.

(sorry my lousy english...)

"where those carries get these toys???"

[jalyst]

This is epic news, read the 1st 3 posts, then read the guys blog.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1735543&p=27#r531
I posted a whole bunch of questions/thoughts in his BLOG post.
But for some reason my freaking posts kept disappearing!<SNIP>

Did you guys read this yet?!?
Also read his response today, to my post @ his blog post.

It seems we finally have official confirmation that N9 is the last MeeGo device :(
There's a very slim chance it'll be be kept in some markets, if it does very well.
But I have my doubts that they'll genuinely try to push it hard.
There's a lot more to find out there, so definitely read it.....

[hotnikkelz]

Did you guys read this yet?!?
In particular read his response today, to my post in his blog post.

umm where/what exactly am i to read sir? that link leads to a sea of posts, more direct link and one to the blog please

[jalyst]

re-read previous post, in particular the quoted post.

[hotnikkelz]

re-read previous post, in particular the quoted post.

I did, i do not know who is this 'guy' i clicked the link and saw a sea of posts which i wasn't interested in browsing through to find the blog from the anonymous guy that you mentioned grrrr :p

[jalyst]

LOL, can you not read!?
I said read the 1st 3x posts, then click on xSacha's link.
Which is embedded in this sentence:
Here's some more information about the N9 (and Symbian Belle).

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1735543&p=27#r531

[hotnikkelz]

LOL, can you not read!?
I said read the 1st 3x posts, then click on xSacha's link.
Which is embedded in this sentence:
Here's some more information about the N9 (and Symbian Belle).

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1735543&p=27#r531

oh, when u said first 3 posts i thought u meant beginning of thread :/
and i didn't know it was xSacha u were referring to (this is the first time u mentioned the name). Thanks, that wasn't so hard :p
Old news though. Elop himself said SPECIFICALLY that this is the last meego device whether it sold well or not. I tihnk he even cut meego R&D significantly
If you want more information on the phone features you can shoot a question at this guy
http://my-symbian.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43289&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
He has the device and has posted goodies on it.

[jalyst]

oh, when u said first 3 posts i thought u meant beginning of thread :/
and i didn't know it was xSacha u were referring to (this is the first time u mentioned the name). Thanks, that wasn't so hard :p

Well I linked directly to the post in question, & said:
"Read the 1st 3x posts, & then click on the guy's link."
I thought that would be pretty straight forward!? :p :D


Old news though. Elop himself said SPECIFICALLY that this is the last meego device whether it sold well or not.

No Elop didn't. This is the 1st clear confirmation we've had.
The interpretation of what Elop said was wrong at the time.
This is the 1st time it's been 100% clear from any Nokia rep.

There's much more than this point in his blog post & comments though.
So make sure you read it...

If you want more information on the phone features you can shoot a question at this guy
http://my-symbian.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43289&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
He has the device and has posted goodies on it.

Thanks.
Why the heck isn't this guy sharing his findings @meego.com or maemo.org?
WTF has N9/N950 got to do with Symbian. :rolleyes:

[Rugoz]

No Elop didn't. This is the 1st clear confirmation we've had.
The interpretation of what Elop said was wrong at the time.
This is the 1st time it's been 100% clear from any Nokia rep.


It is absolutely not clear, that was just some nokia rep. in australia, I mean come on. And "unless nokia changes its mind due to consumer pressure" could mean anything. The usual ambiguous nokia communication.

[erendorn]

And "unless nokia changes its mind due to consumer pressure" could mean anything. The usual ambiguous nokia communication.

Yeah, that basically means "whatever happens, you cannot complain", which seems pretty usual.

[jalyst]

It is absolutely not clear, that was just some nokia rep. in australia, I mean come on. And "unless nokia changes its mind due to consumer pressure" could mean anything. The usual ambiguous nokia communication.

They made it pretty clear... but apparently they themselves are confused why that's the strategy :rolleyes:
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1735543&p=27#r539

[Rugoz]

That part is funny:


They specifically said it will launch on every Australian carrier (Telstra, Optus, VHA) at the same time, which is in under 30 days.
They also said that Australia is a very key market and response has been very positive and even overwhelming. From what Nokia told me: Telstra, a carrier that generally doesn't care about Nokia products, actually called them up first to get information about it when they had first heard of it. Upon hearing a presentation on the N9, Telstra employees gave a round of applause.
With US, UK and Germany markets dropped, Australia is a primary market for this release and we will see a very large marketing push.


In australia everybody loves the N9, in the UK they hate it, makes sense. "They" tell lots of bull.

[Kozzi]

just got a SMS from Saunalahti (perhaps the first operator in Finland to introduce the N9) about the releasing of N9 is approaching and told me to check their new promo site for Meego N9.

http://saunalahti.fi/meego/

[bwalter]

That part is funny:

In australia everybody loves the N9, in the UK they hate it, makes sense. "They" tell lots of bull.

That reminds me of situation during a war. Country A, B and C are for the war, Country D, E and F are against.

Don't you know? "Country" is a metonymy and means either "Spokemen" or "Media" :)

[delmar]

That part is funny:



In australia everybody loves the N9, in the UK they hate it, makes sense. "They" tell lots of bull.

I agree and the same is valid for Italy, where they don't sell it (officially) and so it seems that we hate it. But I don't remember they asked me. :D

[jalyst]

That part is funny:
<SNIP>
In australia everybody loves the N9, in the UK they hate it, makes sense. "They" tell lots of bull.

I doubt everyone hates it in the UK/DE/IT/FR, most don't even know what it is yet.
IIRC those markets are still quite strong Symbian-wise* compared to the US?
So I assume they'd be good places in which to use Qt/Symbian to popularize MeeGo/N9.
Sounds like it's a case of regional headquarters not having the balls to say:

Our market research suggests this can do well, we'd like to push it, if you don't mind?

Maybe they did, but were told that their respective markets are too big to risk?
Who knows.... :(

Weird thing is...
IIRC the market-share of Symbian in Oz isn't as impressive as some of those countries.
I guess that's why Australia's a perfect candidate; to small a market to matter if it takes-off.
Plus, the chances of it taking-off are less than some of the bigger Western markets.

*or were until recently, before everything that's happened.

[catbus]

very near

And those were the actual words?

Very near = [ ]

a) 9.9.2011
b) 23.9.2011
c) 1.10.2011
d) 23.12.2011 :D

[erendorn]

WP7 has a 8% market share in Germany, and is definitely the core of nokia strategy in the US. So it does make some sense to focus on WP7 in these countries. Not so obvious for Fr, Uk, It, etc..

[slarti]

There isn't a white N9, but you can make yours white (or cyan, magenta, black or green) by adding one of these (http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/s?s=1&q=Nokia+CC-1020&submit=Hae) CC-1020 silicone covers.

[mikecomputing]

LOL, can you not read!?
I said read the 1st 3x posts, then click on xSacha's link.
Which is embedded in this sentence:
Here's some more information about the N9 (and Symbian Belle).

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1735543&p=27#r531


Why are you and others cry about what we already knows!?!?

If you like N9 buy it. It will be supported!! It is running Qt same as Symbian! Support for N9 != no more devices from Nokia.

Why care so much about what not exists in two years?

In two years maybe Android is also dead or symbian or WP7 or WW3 has started!?

so why care!?

Buy the damn device or get something else :) Whe have enought of this talks about "dead platform" blablblabla...

Same goes for HP touchpad and WebOS if I could get that damn device in european I would buy it even if I know it is also "dead".


I dont give a **** what the ****king Nokia or other crapcompanys is doing in the future. I only know I will not buy a ****ing WP7 device. And hoipe too see a cool device from some others when I replace my N9 in some years...

[mikecomputing]

Why the heck isn't this guy sharing his findings @meego.com or maemo.org?
WTF has N9/N950 got to do with Symbian. :rolleyes:


If you take a serious look at Symbian Belle and Meego Harmttan UI you realise they not that different...

Both is using full Qt framework. My guess is also that qt-components for Harmattan and Symbian will merge in the near future.

Differences is with N9 the geeks can tweek a bit more than Symbian in lowerlevel stuff :-)

But the facts that both OS:es now have full support for accessing GPS/Acc/NFC/phone etc... directly from QtMobility API makes it even more easy to port apps between the platforms :-)

This is also why I think N9 WILL be supported longer, both from Nokia and appdevs, longer than case of N900. Many apps may very well work on both platform without massive changes of the code like it was with N900.

[mikecomputing]

just got a SMS from Saunalahti (perhaps the first operator in Finland to introduce the N9) about the releasing of N9 is approaching and told me to check their new promo site for Meego N9.

http://saunalahti.fi/meego/

yes Nokia N9 will kick asses in northeuropean/skandinavian countrys :D

[giorgosmit]

@mike: We'll see. Yes, it'll probably do well for a Nokia linux phone, since the only other measuring stick is the N900. It could conceivably do well for a phone that's been kneecapped by its company by a foxed, if not beared (har, har) launch campaign. But will it do well for a mainstream and arguably flagship smartphone by the company that in the days of yore was synonymous with the words "cellphone"? I'm not so optimistic about that, and I really hope I come to eat those words.

[abill_uk]

yes Nokia N9 will kick asses in northeuropean/skandinavian countrys :D

Mike do you know of a release date yet in your part of the world ?.

[eMiL]

I hope nobody in Swe and Fin buys the N9! Then I'll be different! I like being different...

[catbus]

I hope nobody in Swe and Fin buys the N9! Then I'll be different! I like being different...

No Way!

If You like being differen, buy M$ WP-phone...

[Zoxir]

I think that there must be something going on at Nokia about what kind of support and what kind of push they're gonna give the N9. For it not to be released yet lets hope something good comes out of this, even though I know that probably something really wrong will come out xD

[mikecomputing]

@mike: We'll see. Yes, it'll probably do well for a Nokia linux phone, since the only other measuring stick is the N900. It could conceivably do well for a phone that's been kneecapped by its company by a foxed, if not beared (har, har) launch campaign. But will it do well for a mainstream and arguably flagship smartphone by the company that in the days of yore was synonymous with the words "cellphone"? I'm not so optimistic about that, and I really hope I come to eat those words.

again N9 != N900 its more like Meego Harmattan. it may very well sell iin small countrys and/or china/indien who is not main WP countrys imho...

[mikecomputing]

Mike do you know of a release date yet in your part of the world ?.

Nokia se still says end of september... (asked two weeks ago and two carriers says week 39.

[gerbick]

yes Nokia N9 will kick asses in northeuropean/skandinavian countrys

I find that entirely doubtful. But then again, we never knew the true numbers for the N900 in all areas where it was sold.

[mikecomputing]

I hope nobody in Swe and Fin buys the N9! Then I'll be different! I like being different...

All swe people has already officially said "we pissing on WP strategy"

so I am sorry you have to go WP ;)

[hayman]

i'm in qatar know on holiday,and went to nokia store here ,and they told me september they will get it for sure,but they don't know which price or day will get it,they even have the nokia ORO ,
i'll stay here untell the 9-9 hope can buy one here,,\4give my bad english

[catbus]

\4give my bad english

TMO council will meet somedays this would be one of the main topic... :D

mine also is loysy :)

[jalyst]

Why are you and others cry about what we already knows!?!?

If you like N9 buy it. It will be supported!! It is running Qt same as Symbian! Support for N9 != no more devices from Nokia.

Why care so much about what not exists in two years?

In two years maybe Android is also dead or symbian or WP7 or WW3 has started!?

so why care!?<SNIP>

If you bothered to read the source, it was actually interesting info.
Aside from some of the negative stuff that I pointed out...

It was negative stuff we were "kinda" expecting anyway...
But it's always good when newer info make it's more definitive, one way or the other.

[jalyst]

Random readings
Possibly the most boring week yet WRT cool MeeGo/n9 news.

Apologies if this has already been posted...
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/08/25/n9-got-superb-antenna/
http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/08/app-icons-symbian-anna-meego-nokia-nordic-blog-developers/
http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/08/application-flashlight-meego-harmattan-nokia-n9-n950/

I think this has been posted, & it won't be the same for every country.
For e.g. in Oz apparently only the carriers are getting 16GB in 3x colours.
And they've decided to offer the 64GB in Black only…
The retail channel will only get 16GB, & only 1x colour, magenta/pink!
http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/08/nokia-n9-spotted-colors/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgZe5ycsOGU&feature=player_embedded
http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/08/scenic-meego-harmattan-nokia-n9-n950-app/
http://mynokiablog.com/2011/08/26/nokia-maps-v3-08-with-weather-from-nokia-beta-labs/
http://mynokiablog.com/2011/08/26/ovi-store-now-powered-by-nokia-drop/

[jalyst]

Sounds reassuring....
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/08/26/talk-about-meegos-dead-is-premature/
But I don't care if no big handset makers are standing behind them.
They're probably just talking about other form-factors. :(

[rentze]

4give my bad english

You can say what you want to say. That is most important. Sometimes, English of some is too good for me to understand... and I'm not talking about native speakers.

[gerbick]

This thread started on June 21st. It's August 26th. And nothing so far. Even the US is finally getting the Samsung Galaxy S II (well, not Verizon) and the hype around the iPhone 4S and iPhone 5 is starting to drum up.

Even people are looking forward to Mango a bit since it'll carry a forward facing camera, better hardware and Skype integration.

Nokia N9? "It's coming"... still. Such a wasted opportunity.

Sidenote: The lack of developers posting here, but mostly posting at MeeGo.com are probably enjoying the silence away from the bickering, trolling and whatnot from the stereotypical TMO poster. I just wonder if they'll enjoy that silence once the N9 is released and there are no people asking for upgrades, updates or even asking questions because this place will be a ghost town and their current favorite location may have people with the N950, some even with the Nokia N9, but the "developers only" mantra for MeeGo.com will all but stifle conversation and question meanwhile this place crumbles even further.

Then what? I wonder if anybody has thought that through.

[marxian]

Sidenote: The lack of developers posting here, but mostly posting at MeeGo.com are probably enjoying the silence away from the bickering, trolling and whatnot from the stereotypical TMO poster. I just wonder if they'll enjoy that silence once the N9 is released and there are no people asking for upgrades, updates or even asking questions because this place will be a ghost town and their current favorite location may have people with the N950, some even with the Nokia N9, but the "developers only" mantra for MeeGo.com will all but stifle conversation and question meanwhile this place crumbles even further.

Then what? I wonder if anybody has thought that through.

I'm staying here. Meego.com is booooooooorrrrrrring. Users are what make this place interesting. I don't care much for navel gazing.

I'm going down with the TMO ship. :D

[eMiL]

No Way!

If You like being differen, buy M$ WP-phone...

I like to be different, but I'm not stupid!!

[catbus]

I'm going down with the TMO ship. :D

My Captain! \o

[catbus]

I like to be different, but I'm not stupid!!

First time someone told I'm Idiot and now i am... Have to edit... again... ok. eMiL, wait few weeks and you will get your N9 and go for peace...

"They" told me.. It will come.. Soon... We shall have it! Our... ...

[eMiL]

Sorry catbus. I did not try to offend you or anybody else. It's just that we have football on tv, it's friday, I'm working on my 15th beer, and my alco-lock on my computer is broken!

[catbus]

Sorry catbus. I did not try to offend you or anybody else. It's just that we have football on tv, it's friday, I'm working on my 15th beer, and my alco-lock on my computer is broken!

Not offended... My english is lousy and i usually lost every words i read... i hope tmo-people understand this...

And really it's friday, i also try to open my next beer... f..k :D

Peace and N9 is coming! WoW! \o/

edit² : and there is coming three (3) softwares for N9:

1) game like Mephisto
2) time/accountin tool for admistrators/helpdesk
3) remote for VDR

[jalyst]

This thread started on June 21st. It's August 26th. And nothing so far. Even the US is finally getting the Samsung Galaxy S II (well, not Verizon) and the hype around the iPhone 4S and iPhone 5 is starting to drum up.

Even people are looking forward to Mango a bit since it'll carry a forward facing camera, better hardware and Skype integration.
Nokia N9? "It's coming"... still. Such a wasted opportunity.

I reckon we'll get hard dates early next week...
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/08/26/n9-release-coming-closer-according-to-major-finnish-operator/
At least for small parts of the EU. Wanna wage a fiver? :D

[catbus]

I reckon we'll get hard dates early next week...
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/08/26/n9-release-coming-closer-according-to-major-finnish-operator/
At least for small parts of the EU. Wanna wage a fiver? :D

Haha - Kozzi leak this one...

Be carefull... "They follow Us..."

And... fiver!

[mikecomputing]

This thread started on June 21st. It's August 26th. And nothing so far. Even the US is finally getting the Samsung Galaxy S II (well, not Verizon) and the hype around the iPhone 4S and iPhone 5 is starting to drum up.

Even people are looking forward to Mango a bit since it'll carry a forward facing camera, better hardware and Skype integration.

Nokia N9? "It's coming"... still. Such a wasted opportunity.

Sidenote: The lack of developers posting here, but mostly posting at MeeGo.com are probably enjoying the silence away from the bickering, trolling and whatnot from the stereotypical TMO poster. I just wonder if they'll enjoy that silence once the N9 is released and there are no people asking for upgrades, updates or even asking questions because this place will be a ghost town and their current favorite location may have people with the N950, some even with the Nokia N9, but the "developers only" mantra for MeeGo.com will all but stifle conversation and question meanwhile this place crumbles even further.

Then what? I wonder if anybody has thought that through.

May I ask you are you affraid N9 will success and pissing on your WP7 and Android or what!? so sick of this "doomdays" discussion about an awesome linux device :mad:

[sony123]

If you take a serious look at Symbian Belle and Meego Harmttan UI you realise they not that different...

Both is using full Qt framework. My guess is also that qt-components for Harmattan and Symbian will merge in the near future.


As similar as they might look like, they are very different in use. Of course my vote goes to N9 :)

[gerbick]

May I ask you are you affraid N9 will success and pissing on your WP7 and Android or what!? so sick of this "doomdays" discussion about an awesome linux device :mad:

I understand quite well that English isn't your first, or perhaps second language.... so allow me to answer your assumptions.

I'm not afraid of the N9 being successful. In fact, I welcome it. But Nokia has done damn near everything they can to make even my original gadget lust and/or willingness to seek a N9 out for purchase to newer, lower levels. How so?

Nokia is letting me down daily by promoting WP7. I've been using WP7 for the last 8 weeks. I ran back to my Android phone because it's closer to what I want and need in a phone.

WP7 ain't bad. But it isn't for me. Maemo, well Maemo 5 could have been for me, but EDGE data doesn't entice me at all. Nokia N9 would satisfy my lack of 3G data via the pentaband radio.

But no. Elop & crew don't want to release it outside of small markets. Instead, they want to push WP7. Well, let's see how well the first Mango devices sell in Japan - they were released there, so far, nobody I know that's there even cares.

The same will happen in Europe - outside of Germany it seems where WP7 is almost 8% of their share there somehow.

Afraid of success? I've been here since the ITT days and when I had a 770. I want it to succeed. Sadly, Nokia keeps finding ways of making that harder and harder each time they announce something.

The doomsday treatment isn't just my own doing. It doesn't originate from me. It's a response to Nokia's shooting themselves in the foot each time they say anything about the Nokia N9.

[shallimus]

Even my legendary gadget lust is starting to waver. Am I gonna have to import the damn thing from Finland? Or Australia?

Seriously, WTF!? I get it, WP7 is "the future". I'm sure my feelings on that subject have been adequately documented elsewhere on this board.

Still, do Nokia have to deny me this thing which - let's face it - they have actually already announced?

Sidenote: as of today (26th August 2011) it's now been one month since the N9 'Hot Topic' on http://conversations.nokia.com has had any article posted to it. At all. If that's hot, I'd love to know what's not.

[mikecomputing]

Not offended... My english is lousy and i usually lost every words i read... i hope tmo-people understand this...

And really it's friday, i also try to open my next beer... f..k :D

Peace and N9 is coming! WoW! \o/

edit² : and there is coming three (3) softwares for N9:

1) game like Mephisto
2) time/accountin tool for admistrators/helpdesk
3) remote for VDR

My last beer is empty :( so I better not post...

btw. seems like "Irene" is pissed on the US people maybe its cause of Elop strategy... /evil

[mikecomputing]

If you bothered to read the source, it was actually interesting info.
Aside from some of the negative stuff that I pointed out...

It was negative stuff we were "kinda" expecting anyway...
But it's always good when newer info make it's more definitive, one way or the other.

no I didnt boother read the thread simply because that thread looks exactly the same as this thread were 50 percent of the info is just bullish and own conclusion and 25 prercents is just ridicoulius repeating loops and maybe 1 percent intresting info.

so why read yet another thread were 99 percent is same info as this thread? :)

I mean we already knows this:

1.there will not be any more Meegos from nokia atleast not until nokia fires Elop and maybe they change this is very unlikely...

2. N9 wll not be sold in US/UK or german by carriers

3. QT(quick) is appframework for both harmattan and symbian

4. Elop has been anal****ed by Ballmer

5. Nokias strategy to compete with iphone/android is go WP7 and its "fantastic" ecosystem.... hooraay

6 Nokia says N9 will be supported for years. This may be false orl may chane same way as 1 to 5 above...



so whats the point repeating ourself with this!?


this thread should instead give info about ported n900 -> n9 apps or new apps that has already been ported to Harmattan! and there already is many apps.

my twitter and google+ comes up with apps more and more every day. But here we sitting and repeating ourself with pointless discussions about N9 not comming to US and mego is dead and anderoid is fantastic and blablabla...

we have to fight for **** sake and make sure harmattan is alive instead of letting Mrflop win even before the device is released :mad:

[scapegoat845]

My last beer is empty :( so I better not post...

btw. seems like "Irene" is pissed on the US people maybe its cause of Elop strategy... /evil

I'm gonna be caught in "Irene" this weekend. I may be dead before this thing hits the shelves. Sigh.

[mikecomputing]

I understand quite well that English isn't your first, or perhaps second language.... so allow me to answer your assumptions.

I'm not afraid of the N9 being successful. In fact, I welcome it. But Nokia has done damn near everything they can to make even my original gadget lust and/or willingness to seek a N9 out for purchase to newer, lower levels. How so?

Nokia is letting me down daily by promoting WP7. I've been using WP7 for the last 8 weeks. I ran back to my Android phone because it's closer to what I want and need in a phone.

WP7 ain't bad. But it isn't for me. Maemo, well Maemo 5 could have been for me, but EDGE data doesn't entice me at all. Nokia N9 would satisfy my lack of 3G data via the pentaband radio.

But no. Elop & crew don't want to release it outside of small markets. Instead, they want to push WP7. Well, let's see how well the first Mango devices sell in Japan - they were released there, so far, nobody I know that's there even cares.

The same will happen in Europe - outside of Germany it seems where WP7 is almost 8% of their share there somehow.

Afraid of success? I've been here since the ITT days and when I had a 770. I want it to succeed. Sadly, Nokia keeps finding ways of making that harder and harder each time they announce something.

The doomsday treatment isn't just my own doing. It doesn't originate from me. It's a response to Nokia's shooting themselves in the foot each time they say anything about the Nokia N9.

I agree with some of your points but at the same time we all knows that n9 will not be marketed because of stupid decisions. But why should we play theyr games then by also pissing on this device when saying stuf ike it will not be supported, phone will suck usb will break cause it did it on n900 and so on? No one know this and some is just bull.

I mean if people likes other OS:es go buy it!!! But it really is bad when reading in a forum who is about maemo/meego and 90 percent is negative posts. NOT because of the OS but because stupid copmany decions that we cant do something about or maybe we actually can but not by pissing on Harmattan! more like pissing on nokias wp7 strategy!

My point is with all those nagative posts (including myself) we actually let the Nokia board win the battle.

I had said it before and say it again if all of users/devs/geeks had used all the time spending here instead to improve n900CE make apps for N9 or the platform, hell we had a way better chance to make sure Meegohandset could survive as an open platform in some damn way..

[hotnikkelz]

@mike
gerbick never once said anything to piss on meego/harmattan or the device itself, EVER. He's been pissing on nokia's strategy ALL the time. The reason he's not on your page is his pessimism in Nokia (and it is justified), while on your page, there's rainbows and unicorns and fragrant flowers :p

[BigBadGuber!]

just get an iphone. it works

[tissot]

just get an iphone. it works

Many here already got iphone, but that doesn't mean you would not want N9.
Iphone is solid(other than 3G connectivity), but i am selling it away today in favor of N9.

[jalyst]

no I didnt boother read the thread simply because that thread looks exactly the same as this thread were 50 percent of the info is just bullish and own conclusion and 25 prercents is just ridicoulius repeating loops and maybe 1 percent intresting info.

I didn't say read the entire freaking thread.
You lack reading comprehension...
I said read the 1st 3 posts, then click on xsacha's link.
That takes you to his BLOG post, which does have some interesting info.
Rant all you want, I couldn't care less.

[afaq]

I've been so fed up of waiting for release dates I bought a touchpad. My 'new gadget' hunger has been fed and the tinkering has begun. What's an N9?

[alex25]

digitec.ch (one of the largest retailers in Switzerland) just changed the shipping date from mid september to start of october. :-(

[anonymous]

just get an iphone. it works

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76p_ncbffCE

[mikecomputing]

@mike
gerbick never once said anything to piss on meego/harmattan or the device itself, EVER. He's been pissing on nokia's strategy ALL the time. The reason he's not on your page is his pessimism in Nokia (and it is justified), while on your page, there's rainbows and unicorns and fragrant flowers :p

your really are stupid if you think I paint ranbowns etc... but I guess you have problem read my posts.

Dumb me ever to botherr answer this post :(

[scapegoat845]

May not be that useful for devs, but great info for noobs like me....:D


http://nokiamobileblog.com/how-to-install-deb-apps-on-the-nokia-n9/

[ddwwf1]

just thought i would share some info with you i gained this week while away on a training course for the largest monile phone retailer in the uk

speaking to one of the trainers (a ex nokia employee) he told me that even though nokia state the N9 isnt coming to this country that infact it will be coming and to be patient (as he no longer works for nokia he doesnt have to stick to the company line)

had a training session with a nokia employee mainly about the N8 after the session i asked her about the N9 she said she had used one and that its a really cool.

on asking her if the N9 was coming to this country she said no it wasnt however we did have a chat about elop and how he has made her job even harder than it already was

i think she had more info about N9 and about it coming to the uk however being a current employee should would or could not divulge any other info i think we need to sit tight and ride out the storm i will be having monthly dealings from someone at nokia so will fill you in more as and when i get the info

[hotnikkelz]

your really are stupid if you think I paint ranbowns etc... but I guess you have problem read my posts.

Dumb me ever to botherr answer this post :(

it was a joke, but continue the immature name calling (ignored)

[Zoxir]

just get an iphone. it works

Unless you're holding it "wrong"

[jalyst]

just thought i would share some info with you i gained this week while away on a training course for the largest monile phone retailer in the uk

speaking to one of the trainers (a ex nokia employee) he told me that even though nokia state the N9 isnt coming to this country that infact it will be coming and to be patient (as he no longer works for nokia he doesnt have to stick to the company line)<SNIP>

We already know it's coming to at least one retailer (expansys).
Good luck with a carrier picking it up though...
Nokia simply doesn't want push hard for that.

[jalyst]

Sidenote: as of today (26th August 2011) it's now been one month since the N9 'Hot Topic' on http://conversations.nokia.com has had any article posted to it. At all. If that's hot, I'd love to know what's not.

Has it only been one 1mth? I could've sworn it was at least 6wks, anyway.
Yeah it's a joke hey. They never went into enough detail in any of their N9 articles.
And now they're no longer sharing anything!!!
Apart from constant crap relating to Symbian/WP, or something totally OT/uninteresting.

[gerbick]

I don't want to pay that Expansys premium. Rather deal with Amazon, at least they may discount it some. And I trust eBay about as much as I trust a politician (read: not at all).

[jalyst]

I dunno, there could be more retailer options than that.
I haven't been noting carefully because it's not my country.
mynokiablog's been keeping a fairly good running tally.
UK's def, fairing better than the US so far AFAIK.

[Rugoz]

on asking her if the N9 was coming to this country she said no it wasnt however we did have a chat about elop and how he has made her job even harder than it already was


elop...grrr...evil

[tissot]

Nice looking emulator project called EmuMaster.
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/08/27/emumaster-for-n9n950-will-emulate-all-the-popular-consoles/

Tries to combine popular emulators under one app.

[jalyst]

To those w/Android phones that are so love-sick for Harmattan's UI, that they can't wait:
http://droidmill.com/meego-n9-theme-go-launcher-ex-323595.html
Of course it's nothing like the real thing, but it's as close as we're gunna get for a while. :(

[celebrant]

I just noticed that several Czech stores put the N9 in their catalogs with price around $900 with 2 year warranty.

http://mobilni-telefony.heureka.cz/nokia-n9-64gb/

"available in early october"

[mikecomputing]

Has it only been one 1mth? I could've sworn it was at least 6wks, anyway.
Yeah it's a joke hey. They never went into enough detail in any of their N9 articles.
And now they're no longer sharing anything!!!
Apart from constant crap relating to Symbian/WP, or something totally OT/uninteresting.

the marketing deparment inside nokia is 100 percent behind the MrFlop strategy so they will shut up until WP comes out then the marketiing campaign wil start and nokia blogs will spam like hell and messages twice a day how fantastic WP is :(

Its upto us to decide where we stand...

thats why nokia sweden gives out 30 devices to "testers". this is the only way they can marketing it plus the summer tour done in sweden.

My guess is marketing n9 budget is very low globally... they have to save marketing to help MrFlop strategy to success.

so its moost upto us show all friends ho still is not too brainwatched by android or iphone....

or else do as most of others by going android or Iphone...

[gerbick]

Noticed that no news about the Fujitsu IS12T sales - it's the first WP7 Mango handset released three days ago - and so far... silence.

That's what you signed up for Nokia. Hope you enjoy.

Dummies.

[tissot]

Noticed that no news about the Fujitsu IS12T sales - it's the first WP7 Mango handset released three days ago - and so far... silence.

That's what you signed up for Nokia. Hope you enjoy.

Dummies.

To be honest though, we are talking about Fujitsu and it's only Japanese market.