N9 [Shipping]: It's finally here [for some]!

[jalyst]

USB host-mode (aka USB-OTG certified) is still a WIP...
http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=4610&page=2
Actually there's no "work" at the moment, as we're still waiting on Nokia to help the community :(
Man I like the look of the white one, I'm tempted to wait, god knows I've waited for yrs anyway.

[ste-phan]

He's being ridiculous. The polycarbonate is very strong and preferable to a metal body. Try to imagine a sippy cup that you give a baby - display glass aside, you could throw the N9 on the floor and you wouldn't know it after you pick it up.

The included silicone case is quite good as well. I've been passing my phone around and most people don't know that there is a case on it.

-indeed I was surprised after removing the ugly silicon that a likewise ugly layer showed: is that it?

-a beautiful design does not demand to be hidden in an ugly silicon protector does it?

-my original Nokia leather carying case CP-553 is not compatible with the silicon cover. This is a silent hint that Nokia allows us to use it without the silicon cover and likes us to show of the beauty of naked polycarbonate and chrome.

-polycarbonate: fine, black polycarbonate better, coated black polycarbonate: worthy of a 700 Euro phone.

-the undampened noise when your fingernails touch the non coated PC sounds very cheap

-the touch does not feel luxury in my perception, and worse slippery

-Nokia phones need to be able to hit the floor hard in any direction

-no doubt the polycarbonate can hit the floor hard without deformation

-the screen however can't , read MNNM's post http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=79192&page=2

On top of that the screen is curved so the screen will easily touch the ground. It will also touch the table when you put it down.

No problem a it is gorillaTM glass, right?


I have some reports to make about the screen quality.
But since the green under angle color cast does not seem to occur for anybody, only a few, I will not disturb any ones honeymoon days and go to the appropriate thread.


I wish everybody the pleasure of enjoying his / her candybar Amoled device but I don't think I am the only one that is a little bit disappointed that there is no alternative hardware version for people who Maemo on 1GB or RAM.

[geohsia]

Hey guys,
I saw Cancom UK back in the thread a little while back but when I search on the thread it is not there now. Is it a scam?

http://www.google.com/search?gcx=w&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=site%3Atalk.maemo.org+cancom+richard

They just told me they have a white N9 64GB in stock. I'm surprised because I didn't think it would be in stock for another few weeks.

Too good to be true? I would love the community's feedback before I pulled the trigger.

[shallimus]

Hey guys,
I saw Cancom UK back in the thread a little while back but when I search on the thread it is not there now. Is it a scam?

http://www.google.com/search?gcx=w&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=site%3Atalk.maemo.org+cancom+richard

They just told me they have a white N9 64GB in stock. I'm surprised because I didn't think it would be in stock for another few weeks.

Too good to be true? I would love the community's feedback before I pulled the trigger.
Well, the white N9 was announced on the 26th of October (although it was strongly rumoured beforehand). There were one or two floating around at Nokia World, but it's certainly not available in any retail channels yet. Nokia only said 'Q4' for availability - when was the last time Nokia announced a product and it was on sale at a third-party retailer the next day? Especially one which could distract from the Mango lovefest going on right now...

So yeah, I can't see how anyone offering a white N9 for sale right now (late October) would be able to deliver on that promise [and certainly anyone who does have one right now could not legally sell it]. That to me means scam or - if you're feeling charitable - an honest mistake. Anyone think different?

[jalyst]

I won't be surprised if the white version's not available (in the nations the N9's being sold) till 2012.
It's in keeping with Nokia's plans to keep the limelight on their WP's.

[mooglez]

I won't be surprised if the white version's not available (in the nations the N9's being sold) till 2012.
It's in keeping with Nokia's plans to keep the limelight on their WP's.

I thought they said it would be available as a 64G model in Q4?

[danramos]

The included silicone case is quite good as well. I've been passing my phone around and most people don't know that there is a case on it.

This brings up another question: Are replacement silicone cases available in case these get dirty, scuffed or damaged? ...third party at least, maybe?

[geohsia]

Well, the white N9 was announced on the 26th of October (although it was strongly rumoured beforehand). There were one or two floating around at Nokia World, but it's certainly not available in any retail channels yet. Nokia only said 'Q4' for availability - when was the last time Nokia announced a product and it was on sale at a third-party retailer the next day? Especially one which could distract from the Mango lovefest going on right now...

So yeah, I can't see how anyone offering a white N9 for sale right now (late October) would be able to deliver on that promise [and certainly anyone who does have one right now could not legally sell it]. That to me means scam or - if you're feeling charitable - an honest mistake. Anyone think different?

Thanks Shallimus. I'm definitely approaching this cautiously. I now see the same contact details on other websites so it looks like a scam... The person's email address doesn't exactly match that of the UK site plus his grammar in his second email is off enough to tell me that he is not a native English speaker.

I guess I'd also like to hear from the forum moderators how / why the post got deleted. Google tells me I wasn't crazy although I can't for the life of me find the original post.

I was about to pull the trigger on the black when I found out about the white. We're in Q4 so hopefully it appears soon. It'll be interesting to see where this was made, Finland or China because of the special glossy coating.

[buchanmilne]

I won't be surprised if the white version's not available (in the nations the N9's being sold) till 2012.
It's in keeping with Nokia's plans to keep the limelight on their WP's.

Nokia Conversations said it would ship Q4 2011.

[mooglez]

This brings up another question: Are replacement silicone cases available in case these get dirty, scuffed or damaged? ...third party at least, maybe?

Yes, they are available currently in black, cyan & magenta.

for example:
http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/product/9862/dcrbg/Nokia-CC-1020-silikonisuojus-Nokia-N9-puhelimelle-musta

hmm found some official "artsy" ones too:

http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/accessories/carrying-cases-and-style/covers/nokia-hard-cover-cc-3015-for-nokia-n9

[marxian]

Maybe you'll like to google for the difference between plastic and polycarbonate.

The difference is about $200. :D

[marxian]

-Nokia phones need to be able to hit the floor hard in any direction


Hehe. :) I'm not sure how to interpret that, but I did throw my N8 across the room a couple of times earlier this week (damn Symbian :/). It bounced off the couch and hit the coffee table. Great build quality. :)

[tissot]

This brings up another question: Are replacement silicone cases available in case these get dirty, scuffed or damaged? ...third party at least, maybe?

They are widely available here in Finland for around 18 euros. Case is called CC-1020.
EDIT: Mooglez already anwsered the question.

[jalyst]

Nokia Conversations said it would ship Q4 2011.

Yes I know this, but thanks.

[jalyst]

Hehe. :) I'm not sure how to interpret that, but I did throw my N8 across the room a couple of times earlier this week (damn Symbian :/).
It bounced off the couch and hit the coffee table. Great build quality. :)

LOL, you must've been pretty pissed! :D
Don't think I've ever pelted tech gear of mine around like that.

[eaglehelang]

I was about to pull the trigger on the black when I found out about the white. We're in Q4 so hopefully it appears soon. It'll be interesting to see where this was made, Finland or China because of the special glossy coating.
I strongly recommend you wait for us (the countries where N9 is released) to report that a white N9 is coming or has arrived. As of now, no news at all about the arrival of the white N9, whether the dealers or Nokia. Waiting for the black 64GB to arrive is already excruciating enough ;)

[eaglehelang]

This brings up another question: Are replacement silicone cases available in case these get dirty, scuffed or damaged? ...third party at least, maybe?

Yup, can even purchase extras & change colours :D
http://www.nokia.com.my/find-product/accessories/carrying-cases-and-style/covers/nokia-soft-cover-cc-1020-for-nokia-n9

There's also the hard cover that the other forumer posted, saw them at the dealer, dont look nice to me. But not sure about US, maybe some accessory shops will be selling them

[zfarooq]

Is the Nokia Wireless Receiver available anywhere yet?

[shallimus]

People in the UK/Europe looking for a 64GB might like to know that I got this email this morning:

As per your request, this email is to inform you that product "Nokia N9 64GB (SIM Free/Unlocked, Black)" is available now at Handtec!


See http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5794/nokia-n9-64gb--sim-free-unlocked--black-/

Currently in stock for next day delivery.

Disclaimer: I know nothing at all about Handtec. They look legit, but I have no experience of them at all.

Edit: Oops, wrong thread. Oh well.

[medri]

Is the Nokia Wireless Receiver available anywhere yet?

Amazon Germany has them listed and the black one seems to be available...

Black one (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B005PN0R1Y/ref=s9_wishx_gw_g23_ir07?ie=UTF8&coliid=I24D3UEYBRHK9C&colid=1HP1DXO9VFBLP&pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=center-8&pf_rd_r=1B9NKPWMW7DDYBEX00N6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463772833&pf_rd_i=301128)
White one - not yet in stock (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B005PN0QRY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF1)

[zfarooq]

Amazon Germany has them listed and the black one seems to be available...

Black one (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B005PN0R1Y/ref=s9_wishx_gw_g23_ir07?ie=UTF8&coliid=I24D3UEYBRHK9C&colid=1HP1DXO9VFBLP&pf_rd_m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&pf_rd_s=center-8&pf_rd_r=1B9NKPWMW7DDYBEX00N6&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463772833&pf_rd_i=301128)
White one - not yet in stock (http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B005PN0QRY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF1)

Thanks, now I need to find someone to ship it me to in US

[solatic]

An update on Expansys-USA - my old 64 GB pre-order with them fell through. I got an email from them this morning saying:


You have ordered the 64GB version of the Nokia N9, but we do not have
a projected availability date on this device. We do have stock of
the Nokia N9 16GB in stock and ready for immediate shipment. If
you'd like to change your order, we can offer you a $25 discount on
the 16GB version ($729.99 US/ $759.99 Canadian)


I pre-ordered on Sept. 27th. So, beware - 64 GB N9's are getting mighty difficult to find, at least in the US.

[hotnikkelz]

Hehe. :) I'm not sure how to interpret that, but I did throw my N8 across the room a couple of times earlier this week (damn Symbian :/). It bounced off the couch and hit the coffee table. Great build quality. :)

Nokia could do that to a man :/

anyway sidenote
The Samsung beast review by crapgadget
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/28/samsung-galaxy-note-review/

[myrjola]

Is the Nokia Wireless Receiver available anywhere yet?

The MD-310 ?
Yes, at least in Finland, bought one from Verkkokauppa.
Pretty nice way to stream Spotify to home stereos.

[kjmackey]

An update on Expansys-USA - my old 64 GB pre-order with them fell through. I got an email from them this morning...
I got a similar email this morning - I cancelled (from my N9!) :rolleyes:

[ceroberts75]

An update on Expansys-USA - my old 64 GB pre-order with them fell through. I got an email from them this morning saying:



I pre-ordered on Sept. 27th. So, beware - 64 GB N9's are getting mighty difficult to find, at least in the US.

you can get the 16gb cheaper and no tax from where i purchased my 64gb ones...and they also have 64 gb devices as well.


welectronics.com

mention my handle: ceroberts75 and they will give you a better discount.


note: i get nothing but the satisfaction of getting devices here in the USA to fellow n9 users/wanters for promoting them. was just able to find a source and work a deal.

they handled the order immediately and will only ship to the billing address of your card or paypal account.

:)

[jalyst]

Sniffle :(
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/28/the-guardian-hp-shutdown-of-webos-division-said-to-be-imminent/

Could the writing have already been on the wall for webOS when former VP of worldwide developer relations Richard Kerris left HP for Nokia this week? While nothing is yet confirmed, The Guardian is now reporting that HP will indeed finally shut down its webOS division, which could affect up to 500 jobs (either through reassignment or layoffs -- we've previously heard that some layoffs had already begun). That word comes from some unnamed internal HP sources, who reportedly expect an "imminent closure," with one employee adding that "there's a 95% chance we all get laid off between now and November." For its part, HP remained noticeably mum on any news about webOS when it announced that it would hang onto its PC business this week, and its decision to use Windows 8 on tablets certainly didn't do much to inspire the webOS faithful.

[jalyst]

Gee, I wonder if Nokia might do this for maemo/meego :(
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/10/27/nokia-giving-away-25-000-nokia-lumia-800-phones-for-developers/

I don't recall them ever doing anything quite as aggressive, even for Symbian.
N9 devs have had to jump through hoops just to buy N9's as part of the DDP* in the past few mths.
Now they're giving 800's away by the thousands... sigh.....

It's like Nokia's more keen for MS's development env/s to take-off than it's own.
How does this help the long-term viability of Qt if you do this Nokia?
Is MS ever going to agree to allow Qt to become WP's primary dev platform?

*I mean the commercial one direct from Nokia, not the community device program.
I believe some were given away & maybe still are, but AFAIK Nokia has still not disclosed no's.

[lsolano]

Gee, I wonder if Nokia might do this for maemo/meego :(

TWEN-TY-FIVE-THOU-SAND ! :eek:

'just' 100 times the number on N950s :mad:

[mikecomputing]

I want my N9 modded with a TUX or similar on the backcover to differentiate it from the ElopFail cloned Nokia Lumia device :mad:

sent a message to swedish nokia today asked for stickers etc.. to give them free advertasing of N9 and in the same time I said how much I love N9 got this answer and got a bit pissed:

"I promise you will love Lumia 800 even more as soon as you can keep it in your hand. I tested the beauty for the first time today and I have probably not been so impressed with out a cell phone since I got my first 3310 that 11-year old boy!"

Then I realised he must not be older than 13 years old now if he REALLY means he like Lumia 800 more than N9 LOL :D

ROTFL!!! Epic "Elop Fail" fanboy :D

[qwazix]

He mentioned the 3310 that was enough to stop reading. That was NOT a good successor to to the heavily successful 3210 and despite it sold well it was far behind the competition. Other phones of the same price point were half the size and had a li ion battery back then.

So it is really possible he was 3 when he held the 3310

[mikecomputing]

Hehe. :) I'm not sure how to interpret that, but I did throw my N8 across the room a couple of times earlier this week (damn Symbian :/). It bounced off the couch and hit the coffee table. Great build quality. :)

If you had a N9 you didn't have to "bounced off the couch and hit the coffee table" because it doesnt run symbian OS ;)

LINUX FOR THE WIN :-D

[mikecomputing]

Gee, I wonder if Nokia might do this for maemo/meego :(
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/10/27/nokia-giving-away-25-000-nokia-lumia-800-phones-for-developers/

I don't recall them ever doing anything quite as aggressive, even for Symbian.
N9 devs have had to jump through hoops just to buy N9's as part of the DDP* in the past few mths.
Now they're giving 800's away by the thousands... sigh.....

It's like Nokia's more keen for MS's development env/s to take-off than it's own.
How does this help the long-term viability of Qt if you do this Nokia?
Is MS ever going to agree to allow Qt to become WP's primary dev platform?

*I mean the commercial one direct from Nokia, not the community device program.
I believe some were given away & maybe still are, but AFAIK Nokia has still not disclosed no's.


Nokia decided to get raped by Microsoft and Elop likes to get Balllmers cock in his ***.

So nothing new here.

Only thing we can do is see Nokiafail and be happy have the last great device from Nokia OR hopefully better: Elop and the failing board gets fired ASAP.


Just realised one thing: If I had readed this BEFORE I got my beloved N9 I would have been very pissed. Now I dont give a **** cause I dont care what happens to Nokia I have my N9 and I know its better than EFlop fail strategy :cool:

I guess I have too go for an Android device in some years cause there is NO WAY I got Microsoft!

[jalyst]

Nokia decided to get raped by Microsoft and Elop likes to get Balllmers cock in his ***.

Teehee LOL :D

[SamGan]

Actually the most appropriate way to describe the relationship berween Nokia and Microsoft is that Nokia is now Microsoft's whore to seduce users to WP7. How appropriate that Lumia means whore in Spanish.

[solatic]

-indeed I was surprised after removing the ugly silicon that a likewise ugly layer showed: is that it?

-a beautiful design does not demand to be hidden in an ugly silicon protector does it?

-my original Nokia leather carying case CP-553 is not compatible with the silicon cover. This is a silent hint that Nokia allows us to use it without the silicon cover and likes us to show of the beauty of naked polycarbonate and chrome.

-polycarbonate: fine, black polycarbonate better, coated black polycarbonate: worthy of a 700 Euro phone.

-the undampened noise when your fingernails touch the non coated PC sounds very cheap

-the touch does not feel luxury in my perception, and worse slippery

-Nokia phones need to be able to hit the floor hard in any direction

-no doubt the polycarbonate can hit the floor hard without deformation

-the screen however can't , read MNNM's post http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=79192&page=2

On top of that the screen is curved so the screen will easily touch the ground. It will also touch the table when you put it down.

No problem a it is gorillaTM glass, right?



Knock the silicone case all you want. I personally like the feel of silicone for the same reason I used to buy rugged phones back before smartphones existed - grippy = good. That's not to say that naked polycarbonate is going to fall out of your hands, rather that the more grip, the better, and I would coat my phone with the non-slip strips you find at the bottom of your bathtub if it wasn't for the fact that those strips would destroy my pants pockets. If you don't like silicone cases then you don't have to use them.

And I don't put my phones down screen-first, especially not a phone like the N9 where I derive benefit of having it face-up (i.e. the time on the display).

[solatic]

Separate post for a separate comment:

I called AT&T today and spoke to a rep. I did not tell the rep that I wanted the $15/month data plan for an N9, specifically, but rather told the rep that I bought a phone abroad and wanted the $15/month unlimited data plan for basic phones. In other words, I let the rep assume that I had bought a basic phone, and did not lie to the rep directly. I also told the rep that I tried to get it in a store but that the store could not override the unknown IMEI problem in AT&T's system. The rep asked me for the IMEI number of my phone, which I gave to him - found on the N9 under Settings/About product/, so you don't need the original box when you call - and set it up for me.

All in all, pretty painless, so just to confirm for you guys - yes, the Nokia N9 will work with the $15/month unlimited data plans for non-smartphones on AT&T. You might not have to call if you already have the data plan on your line, but I doubt it. Just a reminder though - if you abuse it, you risk AT&T figuring out that you lied to them and getting cut off.

[asianmoomoo]

^can you use wifi hotspot?

[ste-phan]

And I don't put my phones down screen-first, especially not a phone like the N9 where I derive benefit of having it face-up (i.e. the time on the display).

Sometimes you don't get to choose how you or 'one of them others' puts your precious phone down.

When you put it on it's back, the contact point is the chrome inlay around the camera lens. Mine shows already minuscule scratches.

My 1st N900 is still like new,I love it so much that it never actually fell in an uggly way like Marxian describes about his N8.

I probable won't be able to bring up the same respect for this cheap Lumia clone anonymously running Maemo.

The only funny thing is that the new Windows phone sports the same "screen forward design" Grab my Amoled silicon boobs.

But hey the 800 is the hastily produced sample give away batch. The best is yet to come in 2012

We on the contrary will be stuck with this hardware till when?

This time really till it dies?

Hold your heart when it drops, see Elop grinning from the overcast sky, Time to upgrade to Windows phone.

[SamGan]

We on the contrary will be stuck with this hardware till when?

This time really till it dies?

Hold your heart when it drops, see Elop grinning from the overcast sky, Time to upgrade to Windows phone.

Nobody can force you to upgrade to Windows phone unless it is the only os left standing in the world. Too farfetched to even think of this.

[ste-phan]

Nobody can force you to upgrade to Windows phone unless it is the only os left standing in the world. Too farfetched to even think of this.

Just joking around about the obvious designed vulnerabilities of the N9.
By the time my N9 breaks my pile of N900's will outlast the Internet and myself. :D

[asianmoomoo]

Negri electronics has put up the Lumia 800 for sale on pre-order. Costs more than the N9.

No pentaband, no front camera, 512mb ram, smaller screen, no thanks.

[SamGan]

Which imbecile would want to pre-order a Lumia 800 when it will be freely and easily available later with supply exceeding demand by a long shot?

[ysss]

Negri electronics has put up the Lumia 800 for sale on pre-order. Costs more than the N9.

They probably think that the Nokia WP7 line up will be as highly sought after as the N9 or even more so.

It'll be interesting to see how that pans out.

[frostbyte]

I have really nothing to add to this thread except nearing 10,300 posts, this thread is in fact, and I do not use this term lightly, epic.

[eaglehelang]

He mentioned the 3310 that was enough to stop reading. That was NOT a good successor to to the heavily successful 3210 and despite it sold well it was far behind the competition. Other phones of the same price point were half the size and had a li ion battery back then.

So it is really possible he was 3 when he held the 3310

Fully agree. My 3210 was pretty sturdy & strong one. Lasted almost 10 years. :D 3310 pales in comparision

[aironeous]

TWEN-TY-FIVE-THOU-SAND ! :eek:

'just' 100 times the number on N950s :mad:

I just want to say for the record I clearly stated that the 250 to 300 N950 devices given to devs was completely inadequate when this whole thing started and appeared to be sabotage.

[vitaminj]

I just want to say for the record I clearly stated that the 250 to 300 N950 devices given to devs was completely inadequate when this whole thing started and appeared to be sabotage.

300 were given out to open source devs. Which for something they're unlikely to see direct ROI on is pretty generous.
Many more were given to commercial devs, and long before us lot got any.

[qwazix]

Hello from my little friend. I'm still in the store :)

[smegheadz]

has anyone tried using the n9 drunk or severely hung over? i woke up hugging a glass of water in my bed and looks like i tried eating a burger too...from whats stuck to me and the bed. anyway i find i can still mostly spell when pissed off me face on the n900 so wondering how drunk friendly the n9 is to operate.

[HELLASISGREECE]

Hello from my little friend. I'm still in the store :)

Heyyyy awesome!! the first greek who bought an N9!!
congrats man!

greetings from Athens!

did you buy it from a greek shop or are you abroad??

[Zoxir]

Hello from my little friend. I'm still in the store :)

Dude what store is that???? Plaisio.gr changed the availability from coming on 30/10 to coming soon? Where did you get it and how much?

[qwazix]

It is from vnp.gr, a store at Ag.Paraskevi that always gets phones that are not available in Greece from abroad. The had four of them (16gb, black) and they got sold out while I was in the store. It is an import, they got a UK charger, and they gave me a not-so-good adapter. There is no greek language input so far.

I had called them on friday and left my name there. They said that they would have it by friday afternoon but they didn't call, instead they called me this morning to go get it. It costed 590€. I had bought two motorolas from them in the past, but I thought I should wait to see it with my eyes before I post something. Unfortunately, two of them were already reserved when I got there, and then a guy walked in and bought the last one while I was waiting for the guy there to renew my vodafone subscription. I had called birdphone.gr and they told me they have one, but I know nothing about that shop. I didn't go there because they couldn't subsidise the phone.

[HELLASISGREECE]

It is from vnp.gr, a store at Ag.Paraskevi that always gets phones that are not available in Greece from abroad. The had four of them (16gb, black) and they got sold out while I was in the store. It is an import, they got a UK charger, and they gave me a not-so-good adapter. There is no greek language input so far.

I had called them on friday and left my name there. They said that they would have it by friday afternoon but they didn't call, instead they called me this morning to go get it. It costed 590€. I had bought two motorolas from them in the past, but I thought I should wait to see it with my eyes before I post something. Unfortunately, two of them were already reserved when I got there, and then a guy walked in and bought the last one while I was waiting for the guy there to renew my vodafone subscription. I had called birdphone.gr and they told me they have one, but I know nothing about that shop. I didn't go there because they couldn't subsidise the phone.

yeahh

I've seen that store on skroutz.gr

this, along with birdphone

590euros.

you couldn't wait for the 64gb huh?
well I don't blame you! :p

what's the product code of your N9? i

anyway, doesn't really matter, I'm just cheking

[Zoxir]

It is from vnp.gr, a store at Ag.Paraskevi that always gets phones that are not available in Greece from abroad. The had four of them (16gb, black) and they got sold out while I was in the store. It is an import, they got a UK charger, and they gave me a not-so-good adapter. There is no greek language input so far.

I had called them on friday and left my name there. They said that they would have it by friday afternoon but they didn't call, instead they called me this morning to go get it. It costed 590€. I had bought two motorolas from them in the past, but I thought I should wait to see it with my eyes before I post something. Unfortunately, two of them were already reserved when I got there, and then a guy walked in and bought the last one while I was waiting for the guy there to renew my vodafone subscription. I had called birdphone.gr and they told me they have one, but I know nothing about that shop. I didn't go there because they couldn't subsidise the phone.
Hmmm interesting though I want the 64GB so I'll give it one more week and then I'll see what I'll do. Anyway have fun with your N9 man.

[qwazix]

yes, I wanted it too, or atleast a color, but money was a factor, and so I decided to pull the trigger on th 16. I always have my N900 with me anyway so I got plenty of storage.

[qwazix]

yeahh

I've seen that store on skroutz.gr

this, along with birdphone

590euros.

you couldn't wait for the 64gb huh?
well I don't blame you! :p

what's the product code of your N9? i

anyway, doesn't really matter, I'm just cheking

there were east asian maps preloaded, and the plug was british. I don't know what the product code is.

[jalyst]

Sometimes you don't get to choose how you or 'one of them others' puts your precious phone down.
When you put it on it's back, the contact point is the chrome inlay around the camera lens. Mine shows already minuscule scratches.
My 1st N900 is still like new,I love it so much that it never actually fell in an uggly way like Marxian describes about his N8.

Had it not worn an otterbox for most of it's life, & if I wanted to be anal retentive about it.
I could point to numerous spots on my N900, where it would've easily gotten scratches.

I probable won't be able to bring up the same respect for this cheap Lumia clone anonymously running Maemo.
The only funny thing is that the new Windows phone sports the same "screen forward design" Grab my Amoled silicon boobs.
But hey the 800 is the hastily produced sample give away batch. The best is yet to come in 2012.

You're trying hard to 'get a rise' out of people nowadays, aren't you.
That's all you're gunning for....
Every single one of your posts, in various other threads too.

We on the contrary will be stuck with this hardware till when?
This time really till it dies?
Hold your heart when it drops, see Elop grinning from the overcast sky, Time to upgrade to Windows phone.

What are you talking about??
Everyone knows there probably won't be another Maemo/MeeGo device from Nokia.
There's a remote chance w/Meltemi that it'll continue on mid smartphones, down to bottom-end featurephones.
But that's still very much "up in the air"... And even if it does come true...
The specs for the highest end Metelmi, may be just too anemic to be appealing.
Unless the overall OS/UI has improved in "leaps & bounds" by that time.

No there probably won't be any more devices like the N9 ever again, so all we can do is enjoy it while it lasts.
I'll also be enjoying a Nexus or SIII, & then my 1st WP, or maybe an iP6 instead.
If the Tizen phones have started to shape-up sufficiently, I'll give them a squiz before my 1st WP or iP6.

[shallimus]

has anyone tried using the n9 drunk or severely hung over? i woke up hugging a glass of water in my bed and looks like i tried eating a burger too...from whats stuck to me and the bed. anyway i find i can still mostly spell when pissed off me face on the n900 so wondering how drunk friendly the n9 is to operate.
Yes, I have.

Certainly possible, but not as easy or fast as the N900 for sure; I make more mistakes typing on the N9 anyway, and certainly more when "tired & emotional" ;)

The one thing from the N900 that I really miss in the course of day-to-day operation (i.e. living with it as a phone/communicator/music player etc.) is the arrow keys for correcting what I just typed. The drag-zoom thing is great but it's no substitute.

[jalyst]

^ You may already know this, but thanks to N950 users...
Arrow keys have been confirmed as coming with the VKB, as part of the Swpe update.

[sony123]

A teaser from my thread on QtDevDays (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1109038#post1109038):

* Development opportunities:
- Desktop: yes, clearly in the focus
- Mobile: "You will see something coming... This is all Nokia is ready to say now!" (Seems clearly to indicate some big announcement by tomorrow at the Nokia World event!!)

That something I think is Meltemi... ppl in the know said it's coming soon. Not sure if it's product or just info announcement though.

[rohit.hellboy]

Was just checking WP Mango features in detail and I realised that you cant export contacts from the phone to the sim.
To all the N9 owners, pls tell me we can do that on the N9.:confused:

[Hihu]

^Yes,you can copy phone numbers to sim with N9.

[solatic]

^can you use wifi hotspot?

No. I get a "not allowed" error on AT&T, same as everyone else.

[asianmoomoo]

Can someone with a N9 on Tmobile's "grandfather" $10 EDGE plan tell me that you are getting 3G signals and able to use wifi hotspot?

[zwer]

all what I need is a universal adapter

If you travel a lot, or order devices from various locations around the globe - THIS (http://www.swisstravelproducts.com/index.php?site=productview&product_id=190) bundle of magic is a true life-saver (there is US-centric version, too, with a flat outer side)


Thanks Shallimus. I'm definitely approaching this cautiously. I now see the same contact details on other websites so it looks like a scam...

It's a scam, the guy presented himself (or that he talks in behalf of) Richard Watson, import manager of Cancom UK, who is in fact a store manager and B2B representative of Cancom UK, Edinburgh. Of course, he has a completely different email address than presented in that post...


I guess I have too go for an Android device in some years cause there is NO WAY I got Microsoft!

... and that's my biggest gripe with Mr. Elop - destroying Maemo/MeeGo, implementing his set sail for epic fail strategy and ultimately decimating the Nokia stock, that I can live with... Pushing me towards Android in the lack of any other even remotely open platform will make him my arch-enemy. For now, I just despise him for selling out Macromedia and pushing the iOS WP7 clone into Nokia. If I am forced to move to Android, I'll really start hating him from the bottom of my stone heart...


How appropriate that Lumia means whore in Spanish.

No, not really. It is a colloquial term for a prostitute in a relatively small part of Latin America, 99% of people that speak Spanish (castellano) don't have any knowledge of that.


No pentaband, no front camera, 512mb ram, smaller screen, no thanks.

Lucky you if those are the things that made you decide to put it in `no thanks` category...

[jalyst]

has anyone tried using the n9 drunk or severely hung over? i woke up hugging a glass of water in my bed and looks like i tried eating a burger too...from whats stuck to me and the bed. anyway i find i can still mostly spell when pissed off me face on the n900 so wondering how drunk friendly the n9 is to operate.

Very important feature :D

[ajalkane]

Here's, for once, quite nice review of N9 without the gloom and doom of "you should not buy it because it's dead" talk:

http://www.neowin.net/news/nokia-n9-review-its-incredible-2

[pedroesteban]

The official Nokia Brasil facebook page has stated that the PR 1.1 will be available when they release the N9 around here. It is scheduled to be released in Brazil on November 18th.

[charbar]

Can someone with a N9 on Tmobile's "grandfather" $10 EDGE plan tell me that you are getting 3G signals and able to use wifi hotspot?

im on the tmobile grandfather'ed $10 unlimited data plan... i get 3g/3.5g on my n9. i however cannot get the wifi hotspot working, but seems like its just a common bug for US peeps. hopefully it'll be fixed soon.

[ajalkane]

has anyone tried using the n9 drunk or severely hung over? i woke up hugging a glass of water in my bed and looks like i tried eating a burger too...from whats stuck to me and the bed. anyway i find i can still mostly spell when pissed off me face on the n900 so wondering how drunk friendly the n9 is to operate.

I've used the N950 quite extensively both totally drunk and hangover. I'd expect the same findings apply to N9.

My previous phone was N95, so this is compared to that.

The keys are much easier to hit on N95, but in practice I found it required quite a bit of concentration as you had to remember how many times to tap a key to get a specific letter. The result was that it required constantly quite much concentration, which I found surprisingly difficult a task when sufficiently inebriated.

The N950 on the other hand has quite troublesome small keys in VKBD which makes writing quite a frustrating experience when your IQ has fallen couple of deviations due to alcohol consumption. Auto-correction helps somewhat, but can also result in hilariously mangled messages that you're ashamed of when waking up from the stupor.

Since receiving the update to N950, which includes the Swype keyboard, I've come to think that Swype is the best drunken keyboard. You just slide your finger along the keyboard in approximately the correct paths, let swype do the hard thinking, and after you've composed the message you have to just concentrate once proof-reading and correcting the few words that swype guessed wrong.

I hope that helps someone.

[qwazix]

I have been using the N9 since this morning, and you know what? I feel at home.

The biggest fear I had before purchasing it, was that I will end up having a "sterilized" experience, kind of androidish, where you know customization is possible, but on the other hand you are not sure if you want to do the oneway root. I knew it was no WP, that I could do things with it, instead of endlessly swiping the menu up and down in boredom, but there is something magical in having the sexiest phone around and still have all that power.

All my previous phones sacrificed form to function, and even though I wanted a keyboard, IR, lens cover, sd card, exchangeable battery etc, I'm quite happy, because the looks and body compensate for that. I like to have nice looking things, and while I wouldn't go iPhone because that's too much to pay for the looks, I love to have a geeky toy which for once doesn't look like a geeky toy.

By the way the SU-39 capacitive stylus DOESN'T WORK on the N9 :(
And the silicon case is awesome. Half the guys I showed it didn't realize it was a case. Anybody knows where to get the original one in magenta or cyan? I don't want to go the ebay route, last two or three purchases I made were really bad quality products.
Finally the screen is better than the Galaxy S (tmo readability with no zoom is definitely better)

[JonWW]

...(tmo readability with no zoom is definitely better)

How does TMO look on the N9's screen; as Nokia replaced one of my N900s with an N8 and that makes TMO looks horrid, the orange is right in your face :(

[qwazix]

I looks very nice. Not as good as on LCD screens, always lcd's will be better for tiny text, but on the GS all orange text was a bit blurry, on the N9 it isn't

[shockr]

Just picked up a black 64GB N9 last Friday. And it's awesome. Swiping feels so natural. Every time I pick up my E7 now, I have to consciously refrain myself from not swiping to get to the menu or open up the multitasking screen.

I love this device.

[unfuccwittable]

Just picked up a black 64GB N9 last Friday. And it's awesome. Swiping feels so natural. Every time I pick up my E7 now, I have to consciously refrain myself from not swiping to get to the menu or open up the multitasking screen.

I love this device.
where did you get it?

[shockr]

Local store in my country.

[asianmoomoo]

for those with a N9...does the alarm allow you to snooze? and how many times? also, can you set multiple alarms? if so, how many? Thanks!

[asianmoomoo]

also, can you create groups in the contacts and send a msg to everyone in that group with one msg? rather than typing one for each?

[rohit.hellboy]

Sorry couldn't help it. Had to post this. :D

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/304209_192498904161512_121220157956054_409425_6467 97705_n.jpg

[jalyst]

Here's, for once, quite nice review of N9 without the gloom and doom of "you should not buy it because it's dead" talk:

http://www.neowin.net/news/nokia-n9-review-its-incredible-2

Yeah I was very surprised by that review...
Neowin have been hard-core Windows supporters for many years.
But he's got very little but praise for the device/OS overall.

[babraq]

for those with a N9...does the alarm allow you to snooze? and how many times? also, can you set multiple alarms? if so, how many? Thanks!

Yes, you are allowed to snooze. At least seven times.

Yes, you can set multiple alarms. I don't know what is the limit, but now I have 6.

also, can you create groups in the contacts and send a msg to everyone in that group with one msg? rather than typing one for each?

Yes, groups are supported.

[hotnikkelz]

FM radio :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kYHV2BuCSMM

[SamGan]

FM radio :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kYHV2BuCSMM

First working GUI for FM radio. Looks cool. When is it cumming?

[jalyst]

Engadget gushes about Nokia, & a bit about the N9 on the podcast
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/28/engadget-podcast-262-10-28-2011/
More N9 gushing on the Engadget mobile podcast...
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/29/engadget-mobile-podcast-110-10-29-2011/

[jalyst]

First working GUI for FM radio. Looks cool. When is it cumming?

More detail in this thread but no time-line for other features, further stability etc.
http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3902&page=10

[hotnikkelz]

http://goo.gl/rM4PC
well this is interesting

[erendorn]

http://goo.gl/rM4PC
well this is interesting

qt based UI... Qt really looks like "the" tool.

[babraq]

Anybody knows if nmap is being ported to Harmattan? Or some other juicy stuff... :)

[asianmoomoo]

ok guys this is a bit off topic...but is it hard to be a development for apps for the N9 or not? if so, how do you do this?

[0x4e84]

ok guys this is a bit off topic...but is it hard to develop apps for the N9 or not? if so, how do you do this?

If you already have some experience with Qt, that shouldn't be a big issue. If not, well, that's a good opportunity to start ;-)

Get the Qt SDK first from here: http://qt.nokia.com/downloads, and use the help, tutorials and examples that come with the tool. You'll find resources easily on internet too. Welcome on board! :)

Edit: You might also want tho check the MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan Developer Library (http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Developer_Li brary.html)...

[asianmoomoo]

oh ok, i will check it out. thanks

[0x4e84]

Say hello to the world!...

Got mine too!! :rolleyes:

[asianmoomoo]

can someone with a N9 and a car with bluetooth tell me how well it connects with the car's bluetooth system? thanks

[SR90]

Nokia N9 Disassembly ....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSJtUbnM46E

[Zoxir]

Unbelievable they Just announced the Lumia phones in Greece I suppose they will have them in every store soon. N9 never got an announcement and it's been on the site as "coming soon" for months and I'm still N9less :@. Fvckin Nokia

[ste-phan]

Unbelievable they Just announced the Lumia phones in Greece I suppose they will have them in every store soon. N9 never got an announcement and it's been on the site as "coming soon" for months and I'm still N9less :@. Fvckin Nokia

USA have rushed in the WP7 phones to support Greece in the eye of the economic turmoil :D

[sony123]

can someone with a N9 and a car with bluetooth tell me how well it connects with the car's bluetooth system? thanks

I have a N950 (PR1.1) and Garmin GPS with bluetooth handsfree built-in. Garmin retrieves the call log and phone book just fine, I didn't check the details (e.g. whether all contacts are imported, whether name is displayed in call log) but I think it's working for PR1.1. I read somewhere else that it's not for PR1.0, but I cannot confirm since the GPS arrived after I updated to PR1.1.

[sixracer]

Do you know what their warranty policy is on this phone? I chatted with a rep and he first said 1yr manufacturer's. When I reminded him this phone has no US manufacturer's warranty he said they offer 1yr free warranty.

I'm a bit uneasy about that response.

Does anyone know if Squaretrade smartphone warranty would work on N9 here in the US?

Unfortunately, Amex will not offer extended warranty on items w/o US manufacturer's warranty.

I bought my Negri 64gb N9 (hasnt arrived yet) using my Amex. I figure worst case scenario I can use the Amex transaction dispute if something goes wrong. Amex might not give you a warranty but they will refund you if you are not "satisfied" I believe. Not sure what the time limit is on that.

[7SAN9]

is there any fixed date for PR 1.1 update on N9???

[catbus]

No.

.............

[asianmoomoo]

phone is coming tomorrrow...

[vivmak]

Is the following true as per review on CNET.com.au
?
"and for some unknown reason Nokia has forgotten to include a "Back" button or gesture, so once you move forward to a new webpage you can't really go back again. There are no History or Bookmark menus either, although you can pin pages to the Applications screen."

[P@t]

on the nokia browser you can go back. There is a little arrow on the upper left corner that is for back button. It appears obviously as soon as you have reach a second page and is not visible on the first page you visit!

[crisscross]

You know, there might still be a reason for the early release and all this waiting.

Apps.

If Nokia had pushed N9 to the market as soon as it was introduced, there would have been no apps. And as we know, in today's tech blogs that's all that matters. Reviews would have told everyone it's a nice device but there's no software so don't buy it. And due to the bad reviews, developers would have been even less interested of MeeGo Harmattan.

So with a "slight" delay, devkits are being delivered and coders have a few weeks to port their Symbian and Maemo projects to N9. And when Santa comes, there actually might be some apps and games to download. Even Voddler might be coming according to their forums.
..and its here finally:
http://store.ovi.com/content/187345

[slai]

Just read the cnet review linked a few posts back, and heres my take on the little they had to say. Its just me tho. Still a better review than most Ive read, even if its the least extensive review since my girlfriend said "looks cool! i like the video-slide thing. lets go shop groceries, baby".


"The swiping gesture is central to the way that you interact with apps on the phone, as well. Once you've finished using an app, you use a horizontal swiping gesture to "push" the app into the background, or swiping up from the bottom of the screen to close the app entirely."

Nope, swiping up will also send it to the background. Swiping down from the top though will close it entirely. If you set the settings just so.


"It's way too easy to close the browser when trying to horizontally realign a web page while reading text that runs off-screen, and for some unknown reason Nokia has forgotten to include a "Back" button or gesture, so once you move forward to a new webpage you can't really go back again"

Personally I never found it remotely easy to close the browser accidentally.

And as mentioned before there is a backbutton. How the ballsack did they not notice that?

Also, they neglegt to mention the cloudlike startpage of the browser that displays websites youve visited, acting like soft bookmarks of sort. Not a big deal though, theres a lot that is omitted and this is an understandable thing to neglect.


"Battery life isn't outstanding, though, with the N9 struggling to get through to the end of a work day. Granted, this is with us remaining connected to our various online messaging services for the duration, but as a core part of this handset's offering we imagine that this sort of connectivity would resemble the everyday usage of those who choose an N9."

Weird, my device holds a day and a half with no worries, and thats with me reading for several hours of the day, feeds updating on, etc. No pushmail though, and no FB chat. Maybe the chat sucks a lot of juice? Gonna try going the weekend with chat enabled to see whats up. I dont think the battery should miss out on a days use even with it, IIRC from other times Ive had chat enabled for days.


"Despite a laundry list of missing features"

I dont think they mentioned any? Did they?



edit: awesome news that we have Voddler now! go team go!

[asianmoomoo]

whats voddler and where do you get it on your N9?

[lsolano]

my girlfriend said "looks cool! i like the video-slide thing. lets go shop groceries, baby".

I've never understood why the "video-slide-thing" is showed in every review video as a feature.

It is just a "cool" thing as your girlfriend correctly said but it is absolutely useless.

In fact it would be more intelligent to stop the video as soon as a user start to swipe.

[slai]

I agree, its totally useless. Its cool but thats all.

Voddler is a rent-and-stream-a-movie-or-tv-show kinda thing. Check it out at Voddler.com.

Youtube of Voddler on N9 showing superawesomeness of real multitasking: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4N7heoXFeY

[gerbick]

No Voddler for us Americans.

[aironeous]

I've never understood why the "video-slide-thing" is showed in every review video as a feature.

It is just a "cool" thing as your girlfriend correctly said but it is absolutely useless.

In fact it would be more intelligent to stop the video as soon as a user start to swipe.
I am in strong disagreement with you on this. I love being able to slide the video to the side a little so I can check the time and see if my download is still going on and such things you see on the status bar or if I forget what apps I had open.
Snap snap
neeeeeeexxxxxxttttt BS criticism

[daperl]

I've never understood why the "video-slide-thing" is showed in every review video as a feature.

It is just a "cool" thing as your girlfriend correctly said but it is absolutely useless.

In fact it would be more intelligent to stop the video as soon as a user start to swipe.

It demonstrates how a good OS, a good GUI and a good app can properly orchestrate a single-core CPU, a DSP and a GPU.

It's subtle, but it's very impressive. I'm guessing if Android tried to do this on the same hardware it would explode.

[lsolano]

It's subtle, but it's very impressive. I'm guessing if Android tried to do this on the same hardware it would explode.

It's very impressive for you, with your knowledge. It is for me too, technically.

But, it does not add anything to your productivity.

[a_k_o]

Hi,

Is there any chance to get N950, i know its only developer edition, and no more available, but damn i want that phone :/

[afaq]

regarding battery life the N9 is equal to my N900. Moderate use leads to 6-8 hours. Includes music for half hour, 1 hour browsing, push mail and notification screen with live updates and random. Actually that's not moderate at al, its light at best.

am I disappointed? Very much so. Don't get me started on the cloudy,hazy photos that this magical Carl Zeiss can produce.

[sony123]

regarding battery life the N9 is equal to my N900. Moderate use leads to 6-8 hours. Includes music for half hour, 1 hour browsing, push mail and notification screen with live updates and random. Actually that's not moderate at al, its light at best.

am I disappointed? Very much so. Don't get me started on the cloudy,hazy photos that this magical Carl Zeiss can produce.

Give it a few days to run in, as far as I know this is not normal.

[Rugoz]

Moderate use leads to 6-8 hours. Includes music for half hour, 1 hour browsing, push mail and notification screen with live updates and random. Actually that's not moderate at al, its light at best.


That does not sound normal at all. I get 2 days with light use like you described.

[gerbick]

regarding battery life the N9 is equal to my N900. Moderate use leads to 6-8 hours. Includes music for half hour, 1 hour browsing, push mail and notification screen with live updates and random. Actually that's not moderate at al, its light at best.

am I disappointed? Very much so. Don't get me started on the cloudy,hazy photos that this magical Carl Zeiss can produce.

Oh wow. Let's see... I'm constantly in 3.5G coverage, I use wi-fi at the home and office, in the last two days made 12 phone calls, received 8, texted, took 8 photos, MMS 3 of them, surfed this site thrice, went to other sites on it to show people how the browser was, used the compass... and finally charging my battery for the first time in 38 hours - and yes, it was almost dead.

And it's on max brightness. I have set up my IM, but I keep them off at almost all times. I use the alarm, I'm in developer mode, and manually updated my ssh daemon manually.

Mind you, I can't still use Drive - damn thing will NOT open for me - but so far, my battery life has been pretty damn good. Which... way surprises me.

[afaq]

gerbick - that is astonishing.

I have vibration to level 1, ringer on silent, constantly on 3G, 5 texts a day, 0 MMS, opening and checking emails throughout the day and thats it (including what i posted above).

Check out the battery stats attached. Why is it that If i use the device i get around 3-4 hours active usage time.

[Audrius]

gerbick - that is astonishing.

I have vibration to level 1, ringer on silent, constantly on 3G, 5 texts a day, 0 MMS, opening and checking emails throughout the day and thats it (including what i posted above).

Check out the battery stats attached. Why is it that If i use the device i get around 3-4 hours active usage time.

my battery was dying fast when i had power save mode set to activate automatically when the battery reaches 20%. after i turned it completely off it lasts full day, with a few hours of music, a lot of internet and all the rest.

[smegheadz]

I think battery life is very dependent on the user and activity and setup etc.
For example, on my n900 i can get 2days battery with no battery patch or cssu or anything. just disable wifi, put to 2.5g and i still make calls and txt and browse the web frequently. when i messed about with different alpha/beta applications installed and and have it in 3g constant with the same usage it needs charging at night. i think the best thing to do when you have battery drain is to trial and error what you have done, enabled, added, changed etc. every time i've had battery issues it's generally turned out to be related to me and how i'm using it etc and with a little tweaking i'm sorted. Alot of services running like twitter, email. facebook etc constantly checking, with geo tracking etc will vampire that battery. i'd start with the event feed and see whats constantly pinging for updates etc. check the application settings for your accounts etc. try with them off, some off someone etc. lets us know what you find if you pin down your battery drain as other people may be in the same boat as you.

[slai]

http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/11/announce-open-video-player/

New video player with tons of features the stock doesnt have. Also; open. So go nuts!

[babraq]

Also PR1.2 is available OTA in China (http://www.meegoexperts.com/2011/11/china-nokia-n9-pr1-2-update-30-2011-44-5_pr/)! Insane!

[slai]

really? Is that the same PR 1.2 that we are getting, or do they perchance have their own FW releases, IE their PR 1.2 might be what we get as 1.1?

[afaq]

I think battery life is very dependent on the user and activity and setup etc.
For example, on my n900 i can get 2days battery with no battery patch or cssu or anything. just disable wifi, put to 2.5g and i still make calls and txt and browse the web frequently. when i messed about with different alpha/beta applications installed and and have it in 3g constant with the same usage it needs charging at night. i think the best thing to do when you have battery drain is to trial and error what you have done, enabled, added, changed etc. every time i've had battery issues it's generally turned out to be related to me and how i'm using it etc and with a little tweaking i'm sorted. Alot of services running like twitter, email. facebook etc constantly checking, with geo tracking etc will vampire that battery. i'd start with the event feed and see whats constantly pinging for updates etc. check the application settings for your accounts etc. try with them off, some off someone etc. lets us know what you find if you pin down your battery drain as other people may be in the same boat as you.

To be quite frank, I turned everything possible on. You buy a new device you want to see what it can do. You dont buy a ferrari to do 30mph on a 70mph road. First 3 days I let the battery drain quickly but I didnt mind as i was enjoying what I saw. Then i started to realise I had charged it twice in once day to find it was 30% before bed time. That is not good.

I am slowly turning off functionalities - although left the haptic feedback on as i'm lost without it (it really is quite good).

Anyway today i've had a much better result from the nightly charge. It's been 12 hours so far (charged for 10 mins during the day as I was using it in mass storage) and I have 42% left. I've spent 20 mins on a phone call, a few text messages, music for 30 mins, no web browsing, no videos. Wifi has been on the whole day (working from home) - so this makes me think 3G might be a culprit here. Anyway to switch to 2G?

[charbar]

Anyway to switch to 2G?

Settings > Mobile network > Network mode > GSM

If you have it on dual it probably sucks even more battery trying to locate either signal. but I usually keep mine on GSM only for background related material. Only when I actively surf do i switch to 3g.

[warrentaye]

Email does indeed take up alot of battery life. I have 3 email accounts set up and I have dropped them to 1hr schedule and it really helped. The battery can be very good I have to admit, it def depends on usage.

If I have email sync off, its amazing almost like it uses no battery.

[aironeous]

I think battery life is very dependent on the user and activity and setup etc.
For example, on my n900 i can get 2days battery with no battery patch or cssu or anything. just disable wifi, put to 2.5g and i still make calls and txt and browse the web frequently. when i messed about with different alpha/beta applications installed and and have it in 3g constant with the same usage it needs charging at night. i think the best thing to do when you have battery drain is to trial and error what you have done, enabled, added, changed etc. every time i've had battery issues it's generally turned out to be related to me and how i'm using it etc and with a little tweaking i'm sorted. Alot of services running like twitter, email. facebook etc constantly checking, with geo tracking etc will vampire that battery. i'd start with the event feed and see whats constantly pinging for updates etc. check the application settings for your accounts etc. try with them off, some off someone etc. lets us know what you find if you pin down your battery drain as other people may be in the same boat as you.
One thing for sure that was killing my battery life when I was just in the Philippines was the crappy 2.5g connection from Suntel I was getting in all of the areas outside of Manilla.
The reason you ask?
Because when the webpage takes 8 minutes to load it is nothing but a white screen displaying and you all know what a white screen does on a amoled.

[ste-phan]

One thing for sure that was killing my battery life when I was just in the Philippines was the crappy 2.5g connection from Suntel I was getting in all of the areas outside of Manilla.
The reason you ask?
Because when the webpage takes 8 minutes to load it is nothing but a white screen displaying and you all know what a white screen does on a amoled.

There you say it.

Who was the genius that decided a white screen needed to be the standard loading screen in a web browser?
Some heritage out of the monochrome era sabotaging our phones (and eyes)?

[slai]

Well you could just swipe away until its done loading. Im not sure if that would waste more battery tho :p .

[afaq]

any more tips on saving battery life welcome.

[slai]

Hm. Ive turned off emailsyncing, preferrig to do it manually. Ive set battery saving mode off, Ive got twitter and RSS feeds syncing at 30 minute intervals... Dont have FB chat active either, though Im going to try having that active 24/7 next week to see if it severely hampers my batterilife.

Nothing special really. Lasts me about 2 days with 2-3 hours of ebookreading, some browsing and 10-20 smses.

[aironeous]

Good to see daily commits/fixes for our 1.2 firmware coming up since I've been gone on vacation. This is just one week of fixes from
http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouch/libmeegotouch/commits/master


Monday October 24 2011
ayanes committed 990750c
Changes: preparing unreleased

ayanes committed a2a6097
Changes: releasing 0.24.6-1

ayanes committed 3296c8e
Changes: increasing theme dependency

kirilma committed 024c482
New: implemented testing for prompt positioning

kirilma committed cd170e9
New: fake paint engine for testing drawing

Friday October 21 2011
jhalonen committed 5257e46
Fixes failing unit test: Ut_MApplicationWindow::testPageExposedContentRectW henStatusBarAppearsImmediately

jsakko committed 1899075
Fixes: NB#276864 - [TASK] Support for setting the timestamp of notifications

John Tapsell committed 27ed0e5
Changes: Ut_MLabel - fix unit test by simply removing the broken testcase

John Tapsell committed 2096cb8
Changes: MCompleterView - use <qt> instead of <b></b> hack

John Tapsell committed 6e8415f
Changes: MButtonView - Remove redundant relayouting by using setGeometry instead of resizeEvent

John Tapsell committed 4aff0e5
Changes: We should never use sizeHint() only effectiveSizeHint()

John Tapsell committed 4a815bd
Changes: MLabelView_Rich - fix eliding problem if the label is resized to a width of 0

ppenz committed 9756f0f
Changes: Adjust Ut_MLabel to work with the new font

mfabian committed 9a83deb
Fixes: NB#286996 - The Persian translation of the months in contacts is not consistent

mfabian committed 7336250
Changes: Update data files for ft_locales

msafr committed aa267b2
Changes: meegotouch-examples - handled unpackaged files and separated debuginfo

msafr committed d58e57d
Changes: Adding no_install_prl to config

manwari committed 617b92f
Fixes: NB#286952, When adding a contact it is impossible to enter a "mobile number" for the contact

Thursday October 20 2011
vsobolev committed 8f69f11
Changes: use cursor rect for automatic vertical scrolling

chnin committed 64916fb
Fixes: update ut_mtexteditview after introducing MTextSelectionOverlay

vsobolev committed bebf116
Fixes: NB#258444 - [TASK] Lollipop for text selection

vsobolev committed 1116ca8
New: instroduce selection handles

vsobolev committed 3758560
Changes: introduce API to disable input context updates in MTextEdit

vsobolev committed 1bfd3d3
Changes: add API to get font from MTextEditView

vsobolev committed c89a96a
Changes: MTextEditView handles Qt::ImFont query

jhalonen committed ee86719
Fixes: NB#271327 - [TASK] Improve unit test coverage for MSyslogClient, MTimestamp, MDebug

femorandeira committed 4ddb126
Partially fixes: NB#271320 - [TASK] Improve unit test coverage for MComponentData, MGConfItem, MSystemDirectories and MSharedData

ayanes committed e58aaaa
Changes: fix in mdebug.cpp to print stylenames & objectnames

dandrader committed 6c7e3e3
Changes: Update Ut_MOrientationTracker according to new rotation rules

dandrader committed 88f3e56
Changes: MOrientationTracker - windows behind topmost won't follow that topmost.

dandrader committed 7213a3c
Changes: MOrientationTracker - don't track Screen.IsCovered

dandrader committed a2a590a
Changes: Added Ut_MOrientationTracker::testNewWindowShowsInCurren tWindowOrientationIfDeviceIsFlat()

holsthei committed 230e945
Changes: Added Ut_MOrientationTracker::testInitialAngleFollowsTop mostWindowWhileFlat()

dandrader committed 9d7724f
Fixes: NB#283251 - [TASK] Windows opened in flat state should follow orientation of the previous top most window

dandrader committed 04c297a
Changes: don't cache MOrientationTracker::orientationAngle() value

Wednesday October 19 2011
jlintula committed fa4a66b
Changes: Examples in prestart documentation fixed.

msafr committed 7d567fd
Changes: More sensitive build in OBS forces unused variables check

Chinmaya Kumar Padhi committed 2ff5f2a
Fixes: NB#284298 - MBasicSheetHeader setPositiveAction and setNegativeAction do not disconnect previous action

Jarno Malmari committed d76c985
Fixes: NB#275691, Text edit in dialog moving upwards on every character.

magomez committed f54b11f
Fixes: NB#283306 - MContainer and instantaneous bad position of progress indicator, text and icon after using toggleHeaderVisible()

Tuesday October 18 2011
kirilma committed dcfec44
Changes: update text direction on geometry change

kirilma committed 946b910
Changes: fix text direction issues

kirilma committed 19441c1
Changes: fix clipping issues

kirilma committed f33d944
Fixes: NB#271317 - [TASK] MTextEditPrompt does not support length variants

kirilma committed a55cdc5
Changes: UI changes in wisgetsgallery application

kirilma committed 4fe03ce
Changes: widgetsgallery: fix Recipient positioning for switching rtl->ltr

kirilma committed 226c58e
Changes: CC: removed tabs

mfabian committed 8be1b27
Fixes: NB#286569 - song title, artist and album name in Ukrainian language are not recognized in the device

[Arie]

any more tips on saving battery life welcome.

Here is everything I've done to preserve battery life, I normally get 3.5 days of usage out of my N9 without charging it.

1) activate power saving mode
2) set network access to gsm only
3) set my email to update manually
4) turned off all vibration and sounds except for incoming calls

[narzix]

I just bought a n9 from sgbest.com, 64gb black for $729 w/ shipping to US, seems like the best deal. :)

[Hakki_01]

To be quite frank, I turned everything possible on. You buy a new device you want to see what it can do. You dont buy a ferrari to do 30mph on a 70mph road. First 3 days I let the battery drain quickly but I didnt mind as i was enjoying what I saw. Then i started to realise I had charged it twice in once day to find it was 30% before bed time. That is not good.

I am slowly turning off functionalities - although left the haptic feedback on as i'm lost without it (it really is quite good).

Anyway today i've had a much better result from the nightly charge. It's been 12 hours so far (charged for 10 mins during the day as I was using it in mass storage) and I have 42% left. I've spent 20 mins on a phone call, a few text messages, music for 30 mins, no web browsing, no videos. Wifi has been on the whole day (working from home) - so this makes me think 3G might be a culprit here. Anyway to switch to 2G?

You are absolutely right and i find it hard to believe that people can work with it for over a day.. why do they insert all those options if you cannot use them.. ok you don't have to activate all options at once..

My feeds are updated every hour (11 rss feeds, twitter, facebook), 2 hotmailaccounts every half hour. 1mfe account for calendar and contacts every 4hours. No chat.
Surfed 30min on train in the morning and had around 30sms

Battery was 30% when i left work, wanted to surf on train again, but i got warning for low battery (4%)after 2min
So the battery indicator isn't telling the truth?! I already saw that it sometimes goes up again with few %.

Will test tomorrow without 3g. Could a weak wifi signal take more power from battery? I hope 1.1 update improves battery and auto updates apps from store.. 2 of my frustrations

[Lindegaard]

Hi *****es, long time no see.

Anyway. I just want to inform you that there's an update to my N9. Exciting to see what it brings :D

Over and out

[fahadj2003]

whats the progress on the flash?
is it gonna be 10 or 11?

[unfuccwittable]

I'll be in Norway visiting family later this month. Anyone know where the N9 can be had in Oslo?

[slai]

Try the Nokia Concept Store downtown Oslo, I think it may be in the shopping centre called Byporten though Im not 100% on that.

Also: any Telenor store will be selling the N9, probably cheaper than the Concept store if you get a Prat 99 subscription (which at least when I bought it was the lowest total price for the phone).

The latter method with the Prat 99 subscription allows you to unlock the device free of charge for use with other operators, btw, but you will have to pay 99 crowns a month for 12 months. Still the total price should be the lowest youre able to get it for.

[olympus]

whats the progress on the flash?
is it gonna be 10 or 11?

good one ;)

[jalyst]

^ I've directed him to a spot that'll give him some clarity on this front
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1120188#post1120188

[marxian]

There's more chance of Flash Gordon appearing on the N9 than there is of Adobe Flash.

[jalyst]

I dunno, some of the latest dialogue I had with jolo...
T'was vague, & he didn't want me to share it, but still very much a possibility.

[deadmalc]

Got my n9 imported by a friend from Poland :-D
Slightly annoyed by the fact it looks like I still have to carry my n900 around as well so I can use openvpn/ssh :-(

[slai]

Why cant you just use the N9 for ssh?

[deadmalc]

Why cant you just use the N9 for ssh?

I could use ssh, but I can't ssh to any servers without openvpn - unless there is a checkpoint vpn/cisco ipsec port for the n9 ;-)

[smoothc]

Got my n9 imported by a friend from Poland :-D
Slightly annoyed by the fact it looks like I still have to carry my n900 around as well so I can use openvpn/ssh :-(

Where did you get it from in Poland?

[boldap]

i get my phone today

http://i39.tinypic.com/4re0qw.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/vspbu1.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/20shydg.jpg

[deadmalc]

Where did you get it from in Poland?

I think Krakow...

[afaq]

You are absolutely right and i find it hard to believe that people can work with it for over a day.. why do they insert all those options if you cannot use them.. ok you don't have to activate all options at once..

My feeds are updated every hour (11 rss feeds, twitter, facebook), 2 hotmailaccounts every half hour. 1mfe account for calendar and contacts every 4hours. No chat.
Surfed 30min on train in the morning and had around 30sms

Battery was 30% when i left work, wanted to surf on train again, but i got warning for low battery (4%)after 2min
So the battery indicator isn't telling the truth?! I already saw that it sometimes goes up again with few %.

Will test tomorrow without 3g. Could a weak wifi signal take more power from battery? I hope 1.1 update improves battery and auto updates apps from store.. 2 of my frustrations

I am unwilling to shut off all the cool functions of a 2011 smartphone. I like having push mail and top notch multi tasking. Your use of the device seems very reasonable as that is quite a common set up for most. I am ok with charging the phone once during the day as I have a desk job but when I am out - especially travelling - I panic as i rely heavily on GPS navigation and being able to contact family.

[slai]

So when youre travelig and unsure where the next TV or computer or other USB outlet will be you just switch to 2g network, switch screen brightness to lowest, cancel FB/twitter/RSS updates for feedscreen, etc.

Depending on necessity switch email sync off too.

That way you should have a good batterylife for your navigation and your familycalls.

But when youre at home or near a wallsocket or USBsocket you just plonk it all back on again.

There should be a settings app that you can configure for this, and make a profile called Work for instance with all these options changeable, that allows you to change from "Travel mode" to "Normal mode" with a single press... hm...

[afaq]

Thats a pretty good idea for an app (developers take note)!

[narzix]

I just bought a n9 from sgbest.com, 64gb black for $729 w/ shipping to US, seems like the best deal. :)

Update for anyone interested in buying from sgbest, I just got my tracking number from DHL and it looks like shipping is 1-2 days, so hoping it gets here by Friday. :cool:

[Chuck Norris]

when can we buy the white n9? any release date?

[narzix]

when can we buy the white n9? any release date?

They said Q4 of 2011, so either this month or the next, if there are no delays.

[BlackWindEXE]

when can we buy the white n9? any release date?

Preorders have started in Finland for the white n9, so I'm guessing we can expect it to pop up by the end of the month in most places.

[raulito]

Telcel in Mexico had their release of the N9 last night. They only had 500 for a city of 20+ million. You could only get it if you signed up for a modified *read less minutes, 10 sms messages, no internet* double the price for 18 month plan. An absolute rip off.

Inquiries to Nokia in Mexico via their website on Tuesday, were answered by email today. They say the only way to buy an N9 is through Telcel. They are not selling it via the website, nor in any other outlet.


I AM PISSED !!!!!!!!

[slai]

So buy it from another country?

[raulito]

So buy it from another country?

HA! The customs here is ridiculous. They will charge me about what the thing costs for importing it here.....*if I get the phone at all. :mad:

[slai]

Cant you have it sent as a gift and thus avoid customs or something?

[Hakki_01]

Don't know where to post it, so I guess I could do it here.
I installed update of swipe manager after PR1.1 and it's working again, but i think there are some differences in how it handles the accelerometer.

When I'm standing or sitting, there is no issue and it does the job as promessed.

But when I lay down in bed and I'm opening apps, there is a difference. When you lay on your right side, the phone thinks it's in landscape but shows the apps (browser, sms, etc) in portrait, which is fine (otherwise I have to turn on my left). Problem is that the gestures change and for example swiping down from nokia logo now a swipe from right to left.. really confusing as you see the app in normal view and you think you will close it.

Shouldn't it be possible to change the way swipemanager interacts and make it dependant on the app that is open? So top of the app is top of the screen (even when it thinks it's the right side)

Really difficult to explain, hope you guys understand it.. Anybody have connections with the developer?

[mece]

Don't know where to post it, so I guess I could do it here.
I installed update of swipe manager after PR1.1 and it's working again, but i think there are some differences in how it handles the accelerometer.

When I'm standing or sitting, there is no issue and it does the job as promessed.

But when I lay down in bed and I'm opening apps, there is a difference. When you lay on your right side, the phone thinks it's in landscape but shows the apps (browser, sms, etc) in portrait, which is fine (otherwise I have to turn on my left). Problem is that the gestures change and for example swiping down from nokia logo now a swipe from right to left.. really confusing as you see the app in normal view and you think you will close it.

Shouldn't it be possible to change the way swipemanager interacts and make it dependant on the app that is open? So top of the app is top of the screen (even when it thinks it's the right side)

Really difficult to explain, hope you guys understand it.. Anybody have connections with the developer?

Is this on N950? I have these problems when I have the keyboard open. With keyboard closed it works as expected.

[Hakki_01]

Is this on N950? I have these problems when I have the keyboard open. With keyboard closed it works as expected.

nope, N9 it is

[slai]

the top side of of the device is the top of the device. if you hold it upside down in portrait, up is now the upper side of the phone (which would be the part with the ffcamera and speaker grill in that case).

[Zoxir]

JUST GOT AN 64GB BLACK ONE WOOOHOOOOOO


Though I am having trouble turning my SIM into microSIM

[shallimus]

JUST GOT AN 64GB BLACK ONE WOOOHOOOOOO


Though I am having trouble turning my SIM into microSIM
Is it an old miniSIM? There are two styles of miniSIM (aka 'normal' SIM which you can cut down to microSIM size). The old miniSIM is the same size as the new-style miniSIM, but the gold contact area is bigger, and the 'brain' of the SIM is also bigger, so when I cut it down to microSIM size I killed it.

I fixed it (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=79410) by asking my network for a new-style miniSIM and cutting that down to microSIM size.

[narzix]

DHL just called me, will be arriving in ~4 hours. Will post pics! :)

[vitaminj]

Yeah the change in the "swipe down" detection is annoying (both N950 and N9 on PR1.1).
It used to be that you swiped from the natural top of the app (portrait or landscape) and it would close. On a couple of apps (sdl ones perhaps?) it couldn't tell that the app was landscape so it didn't quite work.
In PR1.1 they changed it to always gravity-up being the top of the screen, regardless of the orientation of the app running. Which is all fine and good until you use the phone lying down in bed etc at which point everything is counter-intuitive and wrong. e.g. Lying on your right side using a portrait app, swipe-from left will close it.
This is obviously a conscious decision to change, so I'm hoping someone left in a gconf variable or something to switch to the old behaviour.

[narzix]

My N9 64gb black from sgbest.com arrived. I ordered it on the 9th and received it 11th. It cost $698, and shipping was through DHL to US for $31.99 (USD). Total: $729.99. Btw, I was not charged any duty or taxes. :cool:

This N9 is Made in China, and says Starhub. Sorry for low quality pics, using a ipod touch. My N900 died. :p

https://sites.google.com/a/phatstax.net/files/home/IMG_0326.jpg

https://sites.google.com/a/phatstax.net/files/home/IMG_0328.jpg

https://sites.google.com/a/phatstax.net/files/home/IMG_0329.jpg

https://sites.google.com/a/phatstax.net/files/home/IMG_0330.jpg

[slai]

I honestly prefer the new "top close" as its much more intuitive. Its the top of the device. How much simpler does it get ;) .

[RockOn_23]

Hey freaks,

after working with the n9 for the last 2 weeks I'm very impressed about both the stylish hardware (less is more) and the simple and smooth software :-) Keep MeeGo/Maemo alive!

If anybody has problems getting a 64 Gb version in his country a maybe can assist from austria.

[Zoxir]

Is it an old miniSIM? There are two styles of miniSIM (aka 'normal' SIM which you can cut down to microSIM size). The old miniSIM is the same size as the new-style miniSIM, but the gold contact area is bigger, and the 'brain' of the SIM is also bigger, so when I cut it down to microSIM size I killed it.

I fixed it (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=79410) by asking my network for a new-style miniSIM and cutting that down to microSIM size.

Yeah the trouble I was having was by going the legit way and asking my provider for one but apparently because os some update their network wasn't fully operational so I just cut it myself.

[dolphins]

Hey freaks,

after working with the n9 for the last 2 weeks I'm very impressed about both the stylish hardware (less is more) and the simple and smooth software :-) Keep MeeGo/Maemo alive!

If anybody has problems getting a 64 Gb version in his country a maybe can assist from austria.

I'm interested. In US there are limited sellers and so far the choice is from Asian imports, but I'd rather get one made by the Finns. What sources could I turn to?

[Hakki_01]

I honestly prefer the new "top close" as its much more intuitive. Its the top of the device. How much simpler does it get ;) .

Go to your bed, lay down on your side, open twitter or facebook. It will show everything in portrait, while swipemanager detects that you are in landscape. Now you have to think "ow yeah, the phone isn't in portrait, although I'm reading in portrait.. so I have to swipe different then when I'm holding my phone in normal portrait mode"

Maybe it should be an option you can activate or not?

[slai]

Hm cant you just turn it off and use swipemanager to set it to always be from the Nokialogo to end an app? Should feel more comfortable for you?

Personally, I havent had closeconfusion yet with the new closingsystem, but thats probably a subjective thing to like or dislike :) .

Thus an option would be good, unless you can just use swipemanager to solve it?

[RockOn_23]

how can I check where my device is build? Also I'm 99% sure it is made in Finnland (written on the box) I'm interested to check it :-)

There are many in stock in Europe and they sell for 619 € (16 GB, all colours) and 678 € (64 GB Black)

[dsawhney]

how can I check where my device is build? Also I'm 99% sure it is made in Finnland (written on the box) I'm interested to check it :-)

There are many in stock in Europe and they sell for 619 € (16 GB, all colours) and 678 € (64 GB Black)

You've answered your own question :-) label on box says where it is made. It is also printed on the back of MicroSIM tray.

[ste-phan]

I honestly prefer the new "top close" as its much more intuitive. Its the top of the device. How much simpler does it get ;) .


The only logical way is to define "top" as top of application not, the device.

But I would like to see an option to please everyone's taste.


It was good in PR1.0
Why they have to mess around with it this while there are more interesting ergonomics to implement?
Like "swipe to go back one level" instead of that back arrow.

[slai]

Nope, the other logical way is the top of the device.

Yeah I agree, you mean swiping from the left = going back, swiping from right = move to background, top = close, bottom = something else, that kind of a deal?

[vitaminj]

But if I need to check Twitter whilst bungee jumping, the "top" of the device is actually the bottom. Madness!

p.s. it's nothing to do with swipemanager - all that does is change a config file - the closing orientation logic is built into the Harmattan window manager

[RockOn_23]

You've answered your own question :-) label on box says where it is made. It is also printed on the back of MicroSIM tray.

:-)

...bought it 100 m from my home :-)

[ste-phan]

Nope, the other logical way is the top of the device.



Yes there is the other logic. But we are not helicopter pilots, and our device has no buttons, so we can focus on the window solely, no problem.
That is why taking the the application as orientation is the best solution.

Like a few others have mentioned here, I too like to read in bed, and I prefer keeping the same logic to close browser windows as I would be sitting straight up and have been used to from day 1.

It strikes me that they would change their already clever interface design.

For example I love how the default browser will not rotate to portret when the Nokia logo is down. That is great design.

Firefox Mobile keeps rotating. Wrong, useless.
A Palm Pre 3 keeps rotating all the time, lock not to be found, impossible to read from bed. Out it went!



Yeah I agree, you mean swiping from the left = going back, swiping from right = move to background, top = close, bottom = something else, that kind of a deal?

Indeed, there definitely should be one more configurable swipe option: back

whenever in a menu structure, swipe from right to left (or configurable) means back one menu level.

Maybe also for browsing. I now use open in new window more efficiently than the browser back button.

I miss the simple logic of tapping in the blurred area to go back, it worked from day 1 on the N900, no need to read a manual.

[ujwalsoni]

One last thing I forgot... there is a Starhub brand on the lockscreen. Pretty annoying and may have a small effect on battery life.

You can remove that easily..look up fLPMC

[narzix]

One last thing I forgot... there is a Starhub brand on the lockscreen. Pretty annoying and may have a small effect on battery life.

I just flashed to PR 1.1, using the Northern European firmware, got rid of all the branding and preinstalled apps. :D

[strongm]

the 'brain' of the SIM is also bigger

It isn't. It really isn't. The size is defined by international standards. The extra gold on the larger style is just extra gold.

That isn't to say you didn't manage to damage the 'brain' when cutting it down. Just not because of the suggested reason. There are plenty of us who have cut down the larger style very successfully for the N9

[mscion]

.
.
.
no branding on the physical exterior of the device or any of the included accessories,



Funny, I got mine a few days ago(64GB) from mobilecityonline and the exterior was branded with a starhub logo that protrudes kind of like a bead of water. Wish I could remove it...

[Jemoparis]

hi 2 all, joining this forum since few days (my engl may sound strange sometimes, i'm french, be fair about it :D)

I'm really seduced by the device, design, software, no surprises, i took time to compare tests and reviews windows phone 7 and meego, the largest screen, hugest storage (16go without micro sd is a joke as only option for a first class or competitive smartphone in 2011). I come from N8 and Symbian Anna, liked it with late updates, tried android and didnt liked it much, laggy and cheap ugly, many bugs etc.

Well, wanted a blue 64go, doesnt exist, already quite HARD and f***in expensive to buy a simple 16go N9 in France as not officialy available, but finaly go it, black 64go and nevermind the color as the blue softcover is perfect to have a blue one :)

I just worry about one thing....the battery ....
Was really surprised to see har quick its getting low, got the battery app, sometimes with just swiping and browsing 5mn, u can see % geting low real fast , i checked some forums, many people seemed to have power and battery issues, trying this and that (i saw many time the "smartsearch' named for the battery issue).
I red this topic and checked a few posts about that , then ok i try it (2g, synchr every hour or 30mn, medium lightning, cancel the automatic save power) and i will see.

I dont feel good anyways about the battery..., even with all those seetings (and i mean why buying a so high-tech and cool smartphone if its to use it as a limited device?) my N9 is 90% afer one hour of mostly idle and clock screensaver, with maybe 10/15mn checking apps, swiping, browsing....and my N8 is 88% after 6 hours with screensaver and idle and few same 10/15mn using it.

I really hesitate about whats going on, is it the N9 naturally need more power or something's wrong about it, that's disapointing and i hesitate to go to a nokia care after a few days more or call the shop to try to change it...(and as i said its not available in france so it will take time or it will be hard to get support here...)

[colin.stephane]

hi 2 all, joining this forum since few days (my engl may sound strange sometimes, i'm french, be fair about it :D)

I'm really seduced by the device, design, software, no surprises, i took time to compare tests and reviews windows phone 7 and meego, the largest screen, hugest storage (16go without micro sd is a joke as only option for a first class or competitive smartphone in 2011). I come from N8 and Symbian Anna, liked it with late updates, tried android and didnt liked it much, laggy and cheap ugly, many bugs etc.

Well, wanted a blue 64go, doesnt exist, already quite HARD and f***in expensive to buy a simple 16go N9 in France as not officialy available, but finaly go it, black 64go and nevermind the color as the blue softcover is perfect to have a blue one :)

I just worry about one thing....the battery ....
Was really surprised to see har quick its getting low, got the battery app, sometimes with just swiping and browsing 5mn, u can see % geting low real fast , i checked some forums, many people seemed to have power and battery issues, trying this and that (i saw many time the "smartsearch' named for the battery issue).
I red this topic and checked a few posts about that , then ok i try it (2g, synchr every hour or 30mn, medium lightning, cancel the automatic save power) and i will see.

I dont feel good anyways about the battery..., even with all those seetings (and i mean why buying a so high-tech and cool smartphone if its to use it as a limited device?) my N9 is 90% afer one hour of mostly idle and clock screensaver, with maybe 10/15mn checking apps, swiping, browsing....and my N8 is 88% after 6 hours with screensaver and idle and few same 10/15mn using it.

I really hesitate about whats going on, is it the N9 naturally need more power or something's wrong about it, that's disapointing and i hesitate to go to a nokia care after a few days more or call the shop to try to change it...(and as i said its not available in france so it will take time or it will be hard to get support here...)

Hi Jemoparis,

Not already buy mine, but it was definitively available in France :

- PhoneAndPhone (http://www.phoneandphone.com/telephonie/mobile/Nokia/N9-64GO/1-71449-telephone-portable-Nokia-N9-64GO.html).
- Auchan (http://abonnement-mobile.auchan.fr/telephonie/mobile/Nokia/N9-64GO/1-71449-telephone-portable-Nokia-N9-64GO.html).

A++

[slai]

Give the battery some time. Also, if you really want to squeeze the battery out of it, consider just going with GSM. For me its ridicolously fast, I guess thats because of the signal reception in the N9 giving higher speeds on edge than the competitors.

I run it on edge all the time, and the battery lasts me a couple of days with a few hours of reading ebooks, few hours of music, and general use (calls, sms, twitter plus rss feeds on homescreen refreshed every 30 mins).

Email really screws the battery from what ive heard, i myself dont use email sync, preferring to sync manually.

[qwazix]

Guys, I enabled the home screen rotation and look what I found: the homescreen rotates behind the lockscreen while you swipe it away. I love when effects are real to the bone, though to make it perfect you should be able to swipe the menu up and down with the other finger.

http://youtu.be/d5kNatJI9nM

[Jemoparis]

THanks :-)

I bought it on phoneandphone (auchan website mobile service, powered by phoneandphone actually) i bet they imported the N9 to sell it, just like meilleurmobile in France plan to do also. I maybe can delete my buy before 7 days if something's wrong, that's the law but back to zero, have to find anoter one.

30mn of idle screensaver more and battery got down 6% again (no background connection, synch every 30mn only, only 2g...) this is really crap i think i have a problem

[m3topaz]

Hey everybody! This thread has more than 10,000 posts and more than 1,000,000 views - what a fantastic representation of the level of interest.
Does anybody in Nokia HQ read this stuff? More to the point, do they *get it*?
:)

[mikecomputing]

n9 sucks hell lumia 800 WAY better

[slai]

mike: in what way?

[Lindegaard]

n9 sucks hell lumia 800 WAY better

I've already tried the 800 and it is great but I dont thinks its way better. It's better than it's WP competitor (especially the HTC ones), but its different to N9 hence the os and then it's a matter of taste.
WP is very simple, but as with iphone, what you see is what you get. Theres no customization and very few settings that we can change.

[7SAN9]

is this thread set to scores a world record?!!!

[scapegoat845]

n9 sucks hell lumia 800 WAY better

Care to explain why ?

[mikecomputing]

Care to explain why ?

because elop says soo and he is my hero woho

[Jemoparis]

Thanks to the posts in this topic i read about battery issues,

I gave time to my battery to adjust itself, made 2/3 full charges and used the N9 till it stops by itself, then charged it again 100% when it was turned off, and for the first time today i experienced a normal/positive battery life, not that bad :


100% charged at 6am and arrived at 0% at 8pm this evening with a lot of stuff today (more than one hour loud music, a lot of web browsing all day at office , metro and lunch time, downloaded 15 videos from youtube around 50mo each, 10 sms, deleted and checked some pics i have around 1500 photos in my gallery to check)

The screen light was 60%, edge 2g more than wifi (enough to quickly update emails, twitter and facebook) no background internet connections...

Thats fine for me, i'm ok to charge every nights or end afternoons if i can use it quite often all day or a looonng night from restaurant 8pm to end of a nightclub 6ami dont wanna compete and limit myself to absolutely use it 2 days or more...

Think my battery is ok now :)

[juanenrique]

♫ and now... the end is near... so this thread faces... the final curtain ♫

...thank you, all, for making this such an EPIC thread...

:)

[ejasmudar]

Yes! After many months of monitoring this thread with impotent jealousy, I will now get my very own sweet N9 soon! This is thanks to Nokia's Ideasproject N9 challenge (http://www.ideasproject.com/community/en/treasury/n9?view=overview) where two of my ideas I just won!

[afaq]

The N9 has the ability to run multiple browser windows, but switching with them is not currently possible with only one gesture. Ejas's idea is one of the best suggested ones on how to enable quick switching between open windows.

Excellent idea Ejas.

[cortek]

Reading this thread tormented me for months. It was wonderful. Thanks to all that made it as awful and compelling as it was.

[danramos]

Took long enough for this damned phone to come out. Too bad there wasn't a worthwhile tablet running this OS yet but then Elop didn't even want a phone.

[Naughty]

White N9 now available in Finland! From www.verkkokauppa.com

[edgar2]

for those interested in the white N9, there's a dedicated thread (http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1134718).

White N9 now available in Finland! From www.verkkokauppa.com (http://www.verkkokauppa.com)

[badhare]

foldering support is coming in update release. We are working on it.

@konttori:
My suggestion would be to look into the possibility of using the horizontal separator widget (which is so prevalent on all other screens in N9) to create user-defined groups of icons. This would allow users to separate apps by category, e.g. Connectivity, Utilities, Games, Browser Favorites, etc.

BTW, what is the approximate expected release date of the folder capability you mention?

I am an experienced software engineer and would be glad to help in this effort, if you need additional hands.

[jalyst]

My suggestion would be to look into the possibility of using the horizontal separator widget (which is so prevalent on all other screens in N9) to create user-defined groups of icons. This would allow users to separate apps by category, e.g. Connectivity, Utilities, Games, etc.

BTW, what is the approximate expected release date of the folder capability you mention?

I am an experienced software engineer and would be glad to help in this effort, if you need additional hands.

Who are you speaking to, or did you mean to post in another thread?
Folders were confirmed for 1.2 IIRC, search this blog post of konttori's where he answers qns
http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.com/2011/10/n9-on-sale-in-finland-and-few-other.html?spref=tw.

[badhare]

Who are you speaking to, or did you mean to post in another thread?
Folders were confirmed for 1.2 IIRC, search this blog post of konttori's where he answers qns
http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.com/2011/10/n9-on-sale-in-finland-and-few-other.html?spref=tw.

My apologies, this was a response to konttori's post #370 posted in this thread on 06-21-11. I just added a quote from his post to mine.

What is the expected release date for PR1.2? (It is PR you're talking about, right? BTW, what's IIRC? Something to do w/ "Release Candidate", perhaps? :) )

[jalyst]

In his blog post i linked to, pretty sure he confirmed much more recently, that it's coming to PR1.2.
If I were you, I wouldn't be wasting your time reading through this thread, if that's what you're doing?
It's mostly noise, and very outdated now... (sure search it for key words if you want)

There is no official release date yet, I doubt it'd be later than June 2012.
They've been hinting at a much earlier date than expected, so possibly Feb?
But assume June, and then you won't be as disappointed.
As it gets much closer to the release date there'll be leaks.
Constant & increasingly solid ones, until we know that it's definitely coming.

IIRC = If I recall correctly

[Kozzi]

Omg this thread is still alive...

[Tedri Mark]

IIRC = If I Recall Correctly.

[SamGan]

Konttori hasn't replied to his blog commentators for weeks. I wonder what's wrong. Maybe Elop chewed him up about supporting N9?

[danramos]

So has this thing come out yet really? It seems to be trickling out in very, very small numbers but I'm not sure it seems "available" anywhere.

[jalyst]

Dan... of course it is, you know that... :rolleyes:
It's been out in a dozen+ countries for sometime, it's still rolling out to new ones, & is ultimately going to 30odd.
If you'd been following MNB or other Nokia news sites, you'd have gotten a solid (verified) picture of that by now.
The roll-out has been somewhat dodgy in Australia IMO (long story), but each launch country is very different.
You can't just summarize it all as; "the same pattern".

[marrat]

So has this thing come out yet really? It seems to be trickling out in very, very small numbers but I'm not sure it seems "available" anywhere.

In Germany, where the phone was never officially launched by Nokia, you can buy it from Amazon for the same price as the Lumia 800 (in the black version) -> 429 €

[danramos]

Dan... of course it is, you know that... :rolleyes:
It's been out in a dozen+ countries for sometime, it's still rolling out to new ones, & is ultimately going to 30odd.
If you'd been following MNB or other Nokia news sites, you'd have gotten a solid (verified) picture of that by now.
The roll-out has been somewhat dodgy in Australia IMO (long story), but each launch country is very different.
You can't just summarize it all as; "the same pattern".

So why are there so many people in the threads complaining about being able to get them?

[jalyst]

Majority would be folks in countries where it's not officially available.
I've listed them for you before, there's approx. 9 economies, most are very large/influential.
But I wouldn't be surprised if it does start to get "thin on the ground", in coming mths, in many launch countries.
That's all part of their plan to make their WP handsets far more successful in the eyes of shareholders/public.

[pycage]

Isn't the N9 available in many more countries than the Lumia 800, which currently appears to be sold in Europe only (it doesn't even support all the frequency bands for worldwide sale)?

[phildudesnokia]

Hi,

I just got a 64GB , black N9 from atgsm.com, and to my surprise it came a UK->US adapter in the package, because in the Nokia N9 box, there was as UK USB plug!!!!

How come? If the phone is not being sold in the UK, is there a UK plug in the box?

Unless, there are secret plans to release later.....?

I can post a picture for unbelievers :p

Cheers

P.

[Dared]

Hi,

I just got a 64GB , black N9 from atgsm.com, and to my surprise it came a UK->US adapter in the package, because in the Nokia N9 box, there was as UK USB plug!!!!

How come? If the phone is not being sold in the UK, is there a UK plug in the box?

Unless, there are secret plans to release later.....?

I can post a picture for unbelievers :p

Cheers

P.

Was the plug in the actual box itself? Was the box sealed?


Or was the plug a separate thing?

[pycage]

The UK USB plug does exist for the Lumia 800 and is most likely available separately, too.
But since the British Commonwealth used to be large, I'm sure some countries where the N9 is sold, use the same plug. Maybe your N9 is from one of these countries? What does the box (and the language of the quick start guide) say?

[zwer]

British plugs (BS 1363) are used in hell a lot of countries besides the UK:

The BS 1363 design is used in the United Kingdom and Ireland, Sri Lanka, Kuwait, Bahrain, UAE, Qatar, Yemen, Oman, Cyprus, Malta, Gibraltar, Botswana, Ghana, Hong Kong, Jordan, Macau, Brunei, Malaysia, Singapore, Kenya, Uganda, Nigeria, Iraq, Tanzania, Zambia and Zimbabwe. BS 1363 is also standard in several of the former British Caribbean colonies such as Belize, Dominica, St. Lucia, St. Vincent, and Grenada. It is also used in Saudi Arabia in 230 V installations.

So the device can come from any of those places / was built for some of those markets. In addition to that, a very similar older British standard - BS 546 - is still widely used in India, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Pakistan, Nambia, South Africa, Hong Kong, Botswana, Israel, Singapore and Malaysia.

There is no British-targeted firmware available for the N9 so I guess your device was built for one of those target markets. The best way to know that is to check the product code under the micro-SIM tray and match it against the available firmwares.

P.S. All online stores selling the N9 in the UK claim that they are selling mainland euro version with an UK plug adapter, so quite similar to your situation but just in reverse.

[AndyNokia232]

British plugs (BS 1363) are used in hell a lot of countries besides the UK:



So the device can come from any of those places / was built for some of those markets. In addition to that, a very similar older British standard - BS 546 - is still widely used in India, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Pakistan, Nambia, South Africa, Hong Kong, Botswana, Israel, Singapore and Malaysia.

There is no British-targeted firmware available for the N9 so I guess your device was built for one of those target markets. The best way to know that is to check the product code under the micro-SIM tray and match it against the available firmwares.

P.S. All online stores selling the N9 in the UK claim that they are selling mainland euro version with an UK plug adapter, so quite similar to your situation but just in reverse.

My N9 also came with a UK plug (and an extra UK-USA adapter thrown in by the retailer) but I didn't think, whoa, UK release?? I am aware of countries who use this 3-pin plug outside the UK, so I didn't think that much of it. Nice to have though! :)

[Kangal]

Alot of N9 users praise the "Swipe UI" however I personally don't like it.
Its too simplified and I don't like the conflict between screen swipes between the UI and Applications (like Fruit Ninja).

Nevertheless, it has been "cloned" to the iPhone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y5I6Qqmvs4&feature=player_embedded) by the Jailbreaking community.

And a similar attempt has been made with Android / MIUI ROM Theme. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374139)

...for anyone interested

[specc]

Alot of N9 users praise the "Swipe UI" however I personally don't like it.
Its too simplified and I don't like the conflict between screen swipes between the UI and Applications (like Fruit Ninja).

Nevertheless, it has been "cloned" to the iPhone (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y5I6Qqmvs4&feature=player_embedded) by the Jailbreaking community.

And a similar attempt has been made with Android / MIUI ROM Theme. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1374139)

...for anyone interested

Why would anyone clone Swipe? The only thing needed is to delete homescreens...