N9 [Shipping]: It's finally here [for some]!

[abill_uk]

Gah it's in stoopid rar format.
Is the document itself PDF?
Why even bother compressing it further into rar.
Can someone please email it to me?
jedi dot theone "at" gmail dot com

What are you trying to do ?.

[ysss]

Gah it's in stoopid rar format.
Is the document itself PDF?
Why even bother compressing it further into rar.
Can someone please email it to me?
jedi dot theone "at" gmail dot com

Wanna hear something funny,... I can download, unrar and read that PDF on my iPad...

[abill_uk]

Wanna hear something funny,... I can download, unrar and read that PDF on my iPad...

But what PDF is he trying to read? have i missed something here or is it the service manual he is on about?.

[jalyst]

Wanna hear something funny,... I can download, unrar and read that PDF on my iPad...

There's an app for that :D
I CBF'd looking for a free archiving app. for tiger that supports RAR.

I think that would be even more illegal. Maybe go here (http://www.rarlab.com/rar_add.htm) instead.

Good point :D
Even better idea than ysss's (non)suggestion.

*edit*
Gah stinking command line rar app, this is OSX man, where the pretty GUI! :D

But what PDF is he trying to read? have i missed something here or is it the service manual he is on about?.

Yes service manual, I asked if it was PDF.
I take it it's not, judging by your response.
No biggy, will unrar it using that website daperl suggested

[abill_uk]

Yes it is a PDF format file and is easy to un-rar, just go download the un-rar proggy from the link Daperl gave you and you will be able to view it no problems.

Jesus i thought everyone knows how to un-rar or un-zip files.... oh well but anyhow have look it is well worth the concentration.

[jalyst]

LOL, settle matey, go have a brewsky on me :D

[abill_uk]

LOL, settle matey, go have a brewsky on me :D

Hey no worries i was just trying to help you, when you do get to see it and as no one has actually commented on the actual design build yet, you will be amazed at how small that board is and the array of antenna's it has built into the body.
Someone was commenting on the fm transmitter not having an antenna so i would love to see this for real because i reckon it is a modders dream toy hahaha.

Has anyone confirmed if the N9 has USB OTG or not? because if it has then no problem with a keyboard, just plug one in and hey presto you got whatever keyboard you like.

[jalyst]

Oooh this manual is purdy... nice find, "thumbs up"!

[jalyst]

Its very recently published, final draft date = 01/07/11.
Shorter than I thought it'd be though, it looks unfinished.

<SNIP>Someone was commenting on the fm transmitter not having an antenna so i would love to see this for real because i reckon it is a modders dream toy hahaha.

Damn straight! :D
Even if it's not there's let's "hack it in" bros! :p

Looking for BT now, sad to hear someone else confirm earlier it's only 2.1.
Others were suggesting otherwise, despite official specs saying 2.1.

Has anyone confirmed if the N9 has USB OTG or not? because if it has then no problem with a keyboard, just plug one in and hey presto you got whatever keyboard you like.

Yeah OTG has already been confirmed as probable
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1036215&postcount=16
http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=23170&postcount=161

[abill_uk]

Damn straight! :D
Even if it's not there's let's "hack it in" bros! :p

Looking for BT now, sad to hear someone else confirm earlier it's only 2.1.
Others were suggesting otherwise, despite official specs saying 2.1.



Yeah OTG has already been confirmed as probable
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1036215&postcount=16
http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=23170&postcount=161

Oh thanks for that because this thread is sooo big is hard to find, but why is everyone moaning the N9 has not got a keyboard???? why oh why does anyone want a sized down keyboard when you can plug a full size is beyond me because not only does it have less to go wrong it is lighter and sleeker with no k/b.

The more i read and see about this device the more i like it and i for one see it as a much much better device than the N900 especially as it already has been confirmed to have more or less everything the N900 did not get.

The pics on the manual do not show the usb port so will be interesting to see if Nokia learned anything by the disasterous design of the N900 usb port !.

To hell with warranties for me because modding is something i love to get stuck into but i still say wait and see before you go rushing out to buy one.

[jalyst]

Yeah personally I'm mystified by the folks who see it as an absolute back-step from the N900.
Yes there's some things I'm unhappy about not being included, but overall it's pretty damn solid, esp. the software IMO.

But the longer the freaking thing takes to come out, the less compelling it gets, it should've been out "yesterday".
Sept30 or later, & it's chances of getting any kind of meaningful traction, will have almost entirely dissipated :(

[abill_uk]

Yeah personally I'm mystified by the folks who see it as an absolute back-step from the N900.
Yes there's some things I'm unhappy about not being included, but overall it's pretty damn solid, esp. the software IMO.

NO WAY is it a backstep and if anything it is everything the N900 should have been ! so i agree totally with you there.

As for the OS ... i have reservations about that because of the arguments i have had on here about the MeeGo adaption for the N900 and then all of a sudden we see the N9 with a much advanced version of MeeGo so what was going on ??????.

Editing my post to answer your last, i am totally confused as to why this N9 has not been released months ago because it was obviously well ready by the time it hit Singapore so what has gone wrong in the Nokia stable?, something is very very wrong about all this and i think if this has anything to do with Elop then he should never have been brought in to chair Nokia at any point.

[jalyst]

I wonder if Elop's reading this thread and rubbing his hand together with glee.
Rejoicing in our fractured, disillusioned state... Muahahahahaha...

and then all of a sudden we see the N9 with a much advanced version of MeeGo so what was going on ??????.

Not sure what you mean :confused:
Nokia was dev'ing "in house", we've all known that for some time.
I've seen nothing to suggest most of what they've done can't or wont eventually be fully integrated into M-C in the longer-term.

i am totally confused as to why this N9 has not been released months ago because it was obviously well ready by the time it hit Singapore so what has gone wrong in the Nokia stable?, something is very very wrong about all this and i think if this has anything to do with Elop then he should never have been brought in to chair Nokia at any point.

Agree there, I've had my reservations that it's not "stable enough" to be released & out onto the market many months ago.
I dearly want some evidence to leak, which proves proactive attempts at artificially stalling the project.

[bandora]

Since this is a Nokia N9 related thread, here's a disassembly PDF of the N9.. :)

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4815558/Nokia_N9_RM-696_Service_Manual_L1L2_v1.0.pdf

[jalyst]

already posted, but thanks :)

[abill_uk]

I wonder if Elop's reading this thread and rubbing his hand together with glee.
Rejoicing in our fractured, disillusioned state... Muahahahahaha...



Not sure what you mean :confused:
Nokia was dev'ing "in house", we've all known that for some time.
I've seen nothing to suggest most of what they've done can't or wont eventually be fully integrated into M-C in the longer-term.



Agree there, I've had my reservations that it's not "stable enough" to be released & out onto the market many months ago.
I dearly want some evidence to leak, which proves proactive attempts at artificially stalling the project.

What i am on about got me into all sorts of trouble on here because of the arguments that occured but basically i ranted on about the meager attempt at getting MeeGo on the N900 as an os which eventually went beserk on here so is best i say nothing more on that !.

The "in house" development Nokia has done is quite frankly too late as is the N9 as both should have been out long time ago especially since Nokia screwed us over Maemo, many arguments on that front and bitter ones too i might add !.

Development is Nokia's downfall as it either takes them too long or is let out too late when it comes to hardware/software.

I do not see anything good coming out of Nokia with the Windows os because too many literally hate Microsoft to even give it consideration.

[Prozac786]

I'm on N9seconds.com right now and a bit confused...

Can someone just explain quickly how it works? I am typing the two words in the box correctly and I have done that several times, but it is just saying wrong code each time and not letting me go further.

What am I doing wrong?

[NOMOS]

You need to enter a 6 digit code, numbers or letter or both, in the 6 larger clock like numbers on the left. They are all set to 0 by default. So first you type in there, then you enter captcha details and press enter. If your code is wrong, you will see WRONG! spelled out in the area where there used to be 000000 or your answer. If you put in incorrect captcha, it will show in small red text below it. Once you have entered incorrect captcha you cannot enter new answers in the main fields anymore. Make sure you enter captcha correctly, and you will be rewarded with a link thay says try again, just below the large answer area.

[Prozac786]

And how do I obtain the clue so that I can crack the correct 6 digit code?

[0x4e84]

I'm on N9seconds.com right now and a bit confused...

Can someone just explain quickly how it works? I am typing the two words in the box correctly and I have done that several times, but it is just saying wrong code each time and not letting me go further.

What am I doing wrong?

You have to enter your suggestion for one of the 6-character codes to be found (12 have already been found, 8 more to go) on the 6 big black rectangles (you can't miss them) by clicking on them, or directly from the keyboard, and AFTER you must enter the captcha and press enter...

If it says "wrong", then your 6-character code is not correct, or has already been found...

Look at the videos for ideas about codes to find... Like registration plate of the taxi (already found, obviously), for example...

0x4e84

[BwackNinja]

I was initially skeptical about whether I'd like the N9. After so much wait, the device that is supposed to be everything we were waiting far too long for will actually be here soon. I just hope it doesn't end up like Duke Nukem Forever.

First things first, the design. While initially unimpressive, reading more about it, you can see that removing the keyboard was more than an arbitrary decision, and it allows the device to be more portrait-mode centric as well as more aesthetic. The 8MP camera was disappointing compared to the 12MP on the N8, but this was a size issue and they didn't skimp on the camera - it is fast and can do 4:3 and 16:9 photos better than any phone out there. The subtler touches like the curved gorilla glass screen show that this was a phone whose software and hardware were made together, not apart. The inclusion of 1GB of RAM shows that they are committed to multi-tasking.

Now the only things that strike me as wrong with the device are that it doesn't have HDMI (which I wouldn't really plan on using, but its nice to have) and the radio transmitter/receiver which didn't get any love though hardware or software. Neither of these are dealbreakers for me.

What bothers me a lot is the fact that far too many people are talking about Alien Dalvik as though its some kind of savior to the platform. Its not. In fact, it should never touch the device as anything more than an interesting tech demo. Nokia said that they didn't want to go with Android just to be "pissing their pants to keep warm." They have their own ecosystem around their devices, going Google would only hurt them. This phone already has a Maemo/Meego personality disorder, I don't want people to be calling it an Android phone just because it would be easier than explaining Alien Dalvik to them. This is the first Meego phone (read: Meego compatible). For better or worse, it will define the platform. I don't want the platform to be described as "just like Android" or worse, categorized as a flavor of Android. If Nokia wanted to make a custom interface for Android, they could've and it would've taken them a lot less time to get it to the market. But there would be far less brand loyalty. The only Android device line I really see people being loyal to is the Droid/Droid2/Droid2 Global/Droid3 and that's because that's one of the few lines that takes a keyboard seriously.

Through this, Nokia's WP7 jump makes more sense. Win or lose, WP7 has a chance, not for being the same as everything else, but for being different. That said, I won't look into getting a WP7 device, even one of the super special fun fruits of the Nokia-Microsoft partnership because it can't suit what I want. I want a toy, a device that I can really mess with because I will, a device that supports playing Matroska Video files as well as FLAC a GNU/Linux phone that doesn't call a terminal where you can use the GNU tools as well as any other command line program an afterthought.

This is the second device of its kind, the N900 was the first and we must praise its legacy as a device more successful than was intended. But we also have to move past its failings. Unlike multiple desktops, the swipe ui of the N9 forces you to always be able to get where you want in 2 swipes and a click at most. Folders (will) make program grouping faster to go through than a desktop experience would. Widgets are pretty, but the only problem they solve is information aggregation, and the only aggregation part is the fact that you can have more than one widget on the screen at a time. If you really wanted to specifically have widgets on the screen, a plugin-based app that even scrolls through virtual desktops wouldn't even be that difficult, but that's not even the point. Widgets, particularly on Android also solve the problem that it can't do true multitasking. This phone was specifically made to be able to do multitasking in a way no other phone can claim it can. You can get all the information you're looking for, again, with at most 2 swipes and a click, and it will be instant. There will be no waiting for the app to load because its already loaded (its to the point where I'm pretty sure they recommended somewhere to leave the camera app open so you can take pictures faster). No hiding the fact that on other platforms you'd need to open and close several programs.

Finally, this is an open device. It is using GNU/Linux in a traditional way full of all the newest things. I say "GNU/Linux" not for being someone you affectionately call a "neckbeard," but because its not Android, where the fact that it uses Linux is irrelevant to any use of the device, where it doesn't use the current tried and true method of displaying graphics X.org, it uses a framebuffer. It doesn't use native programs or tookits, it runs things in a (hopefully well optimized) virtual machine using their own drawing apis. The N9 is a Linux phone that isn't ashamed of being a Linux phone, with both appeal as a physical device as well as a piece of software running on that device.

I just hope that this device will in fact be as nice as it looks now. I hope that it sells well enough that people will take it seriously as a platform. I hope it is met with enough praise that it will have a true successor at some point, whether that comes from Nokia or somewhere else. Nokia has taken the path less traveled with this device, and that makes all the difference.

[Prozac786]

You have to enter your suggestion for one of the 6-character codes to be found (12 have already been found, 8 more to go) on the 6 big black rectangles (you can't miss them) by clicking on them, or directly from the keyboard, and AFTER you must enter the captcha and press enter...

If it says "wrong", then your 6-character code is not correct, or has already been found...

Look at the videos for ideas about codes to find... Like registration plate of the taxi (already found, obviously), for example...

0x4e84

Any way of knowing which codes have already been found?

[jalyst]

915914 = Time on the football player’s N9
041434 = Taxi’s distance meter
STEPIN = The 6 hidden letters
HPMHMK = KM/H MPH
850630 = Alarm set on the balerina’s N9
DCA578 = Taxi’s plate
PRND21 = Taxi’s gears
7AM7PM = Road panel
210611 = Date on the football player’s N9
132545 = Time set on the old man’s clock
IRFNOM = MONFRI backwards (was on the sign with 7AM7PM)
436793 = location of pitch and st where biker turns 43.655314,-79.365733

[0x4e84]

Any way of knowing which codes have already been found?

You can probably find them in this very thread, but with more than 200 pages and counting, it'll be easier for you if I post them in this post...

DCA578
PRND21
7AM7PM
210611
132545
915914
041434
STEPIN
HPMHMK
850630
IRFNOM
436793

For explanations about what they mean, I suggest using the search function however ;)

Good luck!

0x4e84

[funkmunk]

I definitely think that one of the clue in on the guy's blue t-shirt in the social media video....

[Dave999]

What happend. still 8 left?

[funkmunk]

any one have a clue as to what is on the purple banner above for lease in the browsing video where mon-fri was found...

[quipper8]

I thought maybe

372BAY

it is address of the Sterling Towers building the cab driver drives by a few times

[segaen]

Is it me or the taxi driver has "XAND" on his shirt ?

[funkmunk]

Is it me or the taxi driver has "XAND" on his shirt ?

Well if u slow down the video u can actually see it changes from Xand to something else...

[jo21]

Is it me or the taxi driver has "XAND" on his shirt ?

says harold...

[segaen]

ha ! we'll be tweeted clues every day from monday on

[jalyst]

Again this is marketing what Nokia should do is kick out MrFlop and CO and continue with Maemo+Qt .

Not gunna happen :( Elop's convinced in the brand power/loyalty that's already built-up around Android/iOS.
Mainly because a large % of users buy X no. of apps /yr, & subscribe to various services etc.
And he thinks WP's in a better position than Meego to do the same, despite having a tiny market-share now.

and the radio transmitter/receiver which didn't get any love though hardware or software. Neither of these are dealbreakers for me

Actually hardware's there for RX, but apparently not for TX (no antenna that is)...
Some excellent points elsewhere, but have to disagree with you & mike on the following:

What bothers me a lot is the fact that far too many people are talking about Alien Dalvik as though its some kind of savior to the platform. Its not. In fact, it should never touch the device as anything more than an interesting tech demo. Nokia said that they didn't want to go with Android just to be "pissing their pants to keep warm." They have their own ecosystem around their devices, going Google would only hurt them. This phone already has a Maemo/Meego personality disorder, I don't want people to be calling it an Android phone just because it would be easier than explaining Alien Dalvik to them. This is the first Meego phone (read: Meego compatible). For better or worse, it will define the platform. If Nokia wanted to make a custom interface for Android, they could've and it would've taken them a lot less time to get it to the market. But there would be far less brand loyalty.

No time now, but later I'll argue why I think the good outweighs the bad, when it comes to integrating Alien.
It'd be a phased thing, that could ultimately be removed (if elgoog hasn't already blocked it by then), cept for the more "technically inclined" folks :)

I don't want the platform to be described as "just like Android" or worse, categorized as a flavor of Android.
That's not how Alien works, every Android app looks/feels just like a native app, & runs @native speed etc.

[erendorn]

That's not how Alien works, every Android app looks/feels just like a native app, & runs @native speed etc.
Isn't AD some kind of compiler for android based code?
In that case, given that devs would have to recompile targeting Harmattan, and most likely pay a licence fee to dalvik, the n9 would only have a fraction of the apps of the android store (a bit like the N900 has so many of the symbian Qt apps from the ovi store, that are also only a compile away)?

[NvyUs]

here's some clues I cant decipher but maybe you guys can.
In the ballerina video when she swipes her leg pause it there is some jumbled up letters in bottom right corner of the wall what look like a signature.
in the next scene when she picks the N9 off the window ledge there is letters carved in the wooden ledge what are hard to see, letters in top Left look like BGR and theres a J in middle of screen with maybe other below.

[BwackNinja]

Actually hardware is there for RX, but apparently not for TX...
Some excellent points elsewhere, but have to disagree with you & mike on the following:

Sorry for being vague¸ but, I'm aware there is hardware for RX and actually TX, just TX doesn't have the required antenna(s) and RX requires headphones to be plugged in. What I meant by "...and the radio transmitter/receiver which didn't get any love though hardware or software." was that it seems like no one even tried to make either usable and just let them sit there, where adding in an antenna at least for TX wouldn't be any sort of technical marvel (at least I wouldn't expect it to be) but rather shows a place where they put no effort. I really got the impression that it was even just a fluke that RX worked at all.


No time now, but later I'll argue why I think the good outweighs the bad, when it comes to integrating Alien.
It'd be a phased thing, that could ultimately be removed... cept for the more "technically inclined" folks :)

That's not how Alien works, every Android app looks/feels just like a native app, & runs @native speed etc.
I will at least agree that Alien Dalvik gives a great technical advantage and integration isn't an issue, however, the downsides I see are more political. The N9 will have failed as a MeeGo device even if a lot of people buy it and enjoy it when the APIs targetted by developers will continue to be the Android APIs and not the MeeGo APIs. In that case it would have succeeded as an Android-ish device, which would be a denial of its own true identity and wouldn't sever people's bonds with Android as a community and as a a set of installable applications. The spread of misinformation, including people wrongly equating the statement "it runs Android apps" to "it is Android device", whether by laziness or ignorance, will hurt the N9 and MeeGo as developing ecosystems separate from Android. That said, I'm looking forward to what you have to say on the matter.

[kureyon]

... and the N900 was just going in that wrong direction for me, too--I didn't want a phone, I wanted a pocket computer.
You know that the N900 runs fine without a sim card and is still more of a pocket computer than any other device out there?

[lma]

You know that the N900 runs fine without a sim card


For values of "fine" that include:

the device eats more battery (http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-users/2009-October/014529.html)
the wlan is stuck to the US regulatory domain (https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5699)
getting a GPS fix is painfully slow (https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5337)


and is still more of a pocket computer than any other device out there?

Only if you ignore its ancestors.

[abill_uk]

But this thread is not about the N900.

[jalyst]

Or it's ancestors :)
But you just know it's gunna keep heading back to that place, sigh.

[bsd1101]

one thing that has to be true about this n9seconds thing is there have to be 20 different answers. If there were only one than whoever gets it could just enter it multiple times. Or is there something i'm missing ? scratch that terms say there are 20 different codes FML makes this even harder than it already is

[ysss]

20 unique answers, 20 winners.

[bsd1101]

do they reveal the already used winning codes ? damn answering my own questions here, on twitter they reveal correct answers

[eres]

Yes - they do
http://twitter.com/#!/N9seconds

[zapotek]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW4sk9DK9aA live multitask :)

[tissot]

Finally video showing app being closed inside the app itself.
http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/07/16/closing-application-inside-the-app-demonstrated-on-a-video/

[pelago]

here's some clues I cant decipher but maybe you guys can.
In the ballerina video when she swipes her leg pause it there is some jumbled up letters in bottom right corner of the wall what look like a signature.
in the next scene when she picks the N9 off the window ledge there is letters carved in the wooden ledge what are hard to see, letters in top Left look like BGR and theres a J in middle of screen with maybe other below.

Hmm, I can't see any letters.

[danramos]

I have been reading your posts in my absence and i am at a loss as to why you seem so angry and bitter, i love your posts in general but i feel your going a bit OTT at the moment so can we have the old danramos back ? ;)

I'm not angry and bitter. I'M NOT ANGRY AND BITTER. I'M NOT.. ANGRY... AND... BITTER. Can't you see the periods, instead of exclamation points? Yeah. Caaaalm. Ohmmmmmmmmmm.. ;)

Whoah, now that Dan, Gerbick and Abill are there, only one question remains.

Where is ericsson, so that we can at last enjoy some epic trolling action here?!? :D

No problem there, at least erendorn is around to help round that out. ;)

This article just highlights even more why Nokia SRSLY needs Alien Dalvik integrated.
And why they need to plug it heavily as a stand-out feature, however counter-intuitive that may seem initially.

Google will prolly eventually block folks from using their already purchased apps in Alien? (the license prolly already explicitly denies it)
But there might be a long enough window for a decent amount of adventurous android users to switch or become "bi".
And even if Google legally stops Nokia from using AD, the community will keep using it, & circumventing blocks it initiates.

But sadly Elop would've have killed any attempt at moving in that direction many moons ago.
WP7x's the new golden goose (supposedly) now... :(

Does anyone know if there's something out there that's similar to alien dalvik, but open?
If there's something like it, we could look at integrating it into meego-core/harmattan?
I guess the best place to start would be here :) http://code.google.com/p/dalvik/

Why would Google want to prevent anybody from downloading apps from the Android Market if it just widens their market share, increases the download counts and helps them take a cut of the purchases?

Man this make me want to rage!

I'M RAGING SO HARD!!!!1!!!!!!11!!! ;) ...but point taken, and I agree. heh

I feel certain that the next year will prove the downfall or success of Nokia and i personally think it will somehow judder back to the original Nokia we once knew (or is that wishfull thinking ha).

Nokia's downfall is there software development as the hardware they can produce could be faultless given the chance.

Is it too late for them to still go back to making boots and things people still need?

You know that the N900 runs fine without a sim card and is still more of a pocket computer than any other device out there?

And, once again, I point out that by having the cellular radio built into the circuits it's added unnecessary bulk, additional drain on battery (even when there's no SIM card) and cost that I would have preferred NOT to pay for. Thanks for playing.

[jalyst]

This vid (posted previously)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5224leqcOo
Says Australia will be the very 1st market? W00t!!!!!!
Trying to get info from the site that did the review, to find out what they base this on.

[NOMOS]

Below is a link to the English google translation of a Austrian review of the N9. Not sure if it was posted already, but it is pretty extensive:

http://translate.google.nl/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=nl&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.meegolounge.com%2Flounge%2F%3Fp %3D738&act=url

[keflex]

has anyone seen evidence of there being media controls on the lockscreen? it's primarily a moot point for myself as i use a bt headset, but it's still a nicety.

[abill_uk]

The only way to find out is to wait for it to be released because all that is happening on this thread is speculation and a MASSIVE amount of searching going on for information that really can ONLY come from Nokia, so unless it IS from Nokia it should be ignored for now.

The N9 that will be released i think will have some differences other than people are speculating about so really all the speculation is pointless.

WAIT for the OFFICIAL release i say.

[danramos]

The only way to find out is to wait for it to be released because all that is happening on this thread is speculation and a MASSIVE amount of searching going on for information that really can ONLY come from Nokia, so unless it IS from Nokia it should be ignored for now.

The N9 that will be released i think will have some differences other than people are speculating about so really all the speculation is pointless.

WAIT for the OFFICIAL release i say.

I'm putting it out there that maybe it has lenticular glasses-free 3D, six-core processor and an astounding 3 month standby battery life. Go ahead... prove to me that any of that is untrue. Try it! ;)

[shuraizo]

Do celebrities get this earlier?

Here's one indonesian celebrity
(Indonesia is one of nokia's main market)
http://sandradewi.blogseleb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/n9.jpg

[danramos]

Do celebrities get this earlier?

Here's one indonesian celebrity
(Indonesia is one of nokia's main market)
http://sandradewi.blogseleb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/n9.jpg

Also... a free girl with every phone!* :P


(*Note: Actual girl's attractiveness and features varies)

[kanishou]

has anyone seen evidence of there being media controls on the lockscreen? it's primarily a moot point for myself as i use a bt headset, but it's still a nicety.

No media controls there (yet?). Of course you can select the volume, and songs will pause when you get a call or unplug the headphones or anything like that, but I am not aware of a simple method to skip tracks other than going to the media player (which I am fine with, but then I don't listen to music extensively).

[mikecomputing]

Also... a free girl with every phone!* :P


(*Note: Actual girl's attractiveness and features varies)

Indonesia and Sweden is pissing on WP7 cause they dont want a burning Microsoftplatform.

Now sweden is saying official that 23 september N9 is start selling in sweden :)

and today the Nokia N9 tour starts.

http://n9pilot.se/

[mooglez]

argh, its gotta be the letters on that one players shirt, but i just cannot make them out no matter how frame by frame i go

[ysss]

What about the 'camera' movie. It hasn't contributed as many codes as the others, thus far?

[confizz]

is there a video out there, which shows the alarm clock ringing and how to snooze and turning it off?

[daperl]

What about the 'camera' movie. It hasn't contributed as many codes as the others, thus far?

None of the following worked:

FLIM9N 9NFLIM N9MILF MILFN9

[ysss]

There is reference to Athanasius Kircher in the 'Camera' movie. (poster on the left as the mom and kid is walking away).

This might also be of interest:
http://sepientia.com/2010/02/athanasius-kircher-vs-leonardo-da-vinci/

Also, no answer yet to be derived from 'da vinci', aerial screw/chopper, '832' and elgamal 15 ...

[mohannad]

damn! another one gone. Did anyone from here get it?

[Rugoz]

damn, clue given at 9 oclock and already one more down, some people have to work! :)

[rentze]

What about NOHWKB?

[EspeonEefi]

damn! another one gone. Did anyone from here get it?

I've learned so much information from following this thread and its predecessors silently for a while now, so I thought I'd chime in to satisfy people's curiosity. The solution to today's clue was GBNWAT -- the 9th letter in each of the YouTube video descriptions after the initial "http://swipe.nokia.com". For example, the beginning of the first video Swipe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkZSbi-ws58)'s description says "Move with grace.", and the ninth letter is G.

[ysss]

What about NOHWKB?

thanks! that one was a winnar

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9953/winnarm.jpg

[bipinbn]

I've learned so much information from following this thread and its predecessors silently for a while now, so I thought I'd chime in to satisfy people's curiosity. The solution to today's clue was GBNWAT -- the 9th letter in each of the YouTube video descriptions after the initial "http://swipe.nokia.com". For example, the beginning of the first video Swipe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkZSbi-ws58)'s description says "Move with grace.", and the ninth letter is G.

awesome dude..u got that one right..congrats!!!!

[Rugoz]

I've learned so much information from following this thread and its predecessors silently for a while now, so I thought I'd chime in to satisfy people's curiosity. The solution to today's clue was GBNWAT -- the 9th letter in each of the YouTube video descriptions after the initial "http://swipe.nokia.com". For example, the beginning of the first video Swipe's description says "Move with grace.", and the ninth letter is G.


Weird. I would never have had that idea.

[jo21]

Weird. I would never have had that idea.

the hell no one was gotta find out that without the hint <.<

oh well the hint lasted a few minutes. and again i am late :/

[isorn]

I'd tried with the first letter of each video's title but the ninth? The phone is called N9... It makes sense. I'm stupid.

[jo21]

I've learned so much information from following this thread and its predecessors silently for a while now, so I thought I'd chime in to satisfy people's curiosity. The solution to today's clue was GBNWAT -- the 9th letter in each of the YouTube video descriptions after the initial "http://swipe.nokia.com". For example, the beginning of the first video Swipe (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkZSbi-ws58)'s description says "Move with grace.", and the ninth letter is G.
gratz *cry*

there is something that calls my attention

in certain videos, some video connect.

like in the camera one... the guy from maps, social media football, and mother with child show up for a few seconds... no luck with with codes though :/

[damion]

Does anybody know if it will support wifi hotspot in AP mode or i will be only ad hoc mode?

It comes with Joikuspot's implementation with Ad-Hoc. However the kernel is 2.6.32 which should support infrastructure no matter which chipset using the new wifi architecture that was in .32 upwards. This is on my (very long and rarely able to be worked on) todo list. I have Android and sony PSP devices (and I can't remember about apple stuff), none of which will connect by default to an ad-hoc gateway.

[daperl]

Okay, I give up, but the order of the n9 colors is:

cyan black cyan magenta cyan black

[jo21]

Okay, I give up, but the order of the n9 colors is:

cyan black cyan magenta cyan black

i have... 3 days of headache thanks to this competiton but i dont wanna give up n9 is perfect for me.. :/

[Saew]

I guess this information is not very useful, but I'm putting it on here, in case somebody does find it useful:

$ whois aerials-crew.com

Domain Name: AERIALS-CREW.COM
Registrar: MYDOMAIN, INC.
Whois Server: whois.namesdirect.com
Referral URL: http://www.namesdirect.com
Name Server: NS1.MYDOMAIN.COM
Name Server: NS2.MYDOMAIN.COM
Name Server: NS3.MYDOMAIN.COM
Name Server: NS4.MYDOMAIN.COM
Status: ok
Updated Date: 15-jun-2011
Creation Date: 15-jun-2011
Expiration Date: 15-jun-2013

Registrant:
c/o AERIALS-CREW.COM
P.O. Box 821650
Vancouver, WA 98682
US

Registrar: NAMESDIRECT
Domain Name: AERIALS-CREW.COM
Created on: 15-JUN-11
Expires on: 15-JUN-13
Last Updated on: 15-JUN-11

Administrative Contact:
MmTcgX@PRIVACYPOST.COM
c/o AERIALS-CREW.COM
P.O. Box 821650
Vancouver, WA 98682
US
+1.360-449-5933

Technical Contact:
qSHMKe@PRIVACYPOST.COM
c/o AERIALS-CREW.COM
P.O. Box 821650
Vancouver, WA 98682
US
+1.360-449-5933

[segaen]

On the 2 first vids some street lights are turned on and some off, sometimes at the same time which should be impossible like at 6.96 in the first vid.

[Saew]

On the 2 first vids some street lights are turned on and some off, sometimes at the same time which should be impossible like at 6.96 in the first vid.

And in the second vid, the taxi driver must be _really_ hungry because his tires are screeching as he comes to a halt before rushing in the fast food restaurant and eating his meal :p

However, I don't think either of these facts will help us in finding a solution ^^

[keflex]

i picked a great time to be on holidays for two weeks, i'll say that much. at least there's still some out there, i'll be gunning for it from tomorrow.

[hayman]

thanks! that one was a winnar

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9953/winnarm.jpg

have you really won it ...? wow great..

[somedude]

have you really won it ...? wow great..

check the spelling

[somedude]

have you really won it ...? wow great..

check the spelling..

dows the wifi in harmattan also act the same way n900 does? auto connect when known ssid is found? anyone know?

[Mandibela]

I'd tried with the first letter of each video's title but the ninth? The phone is called N9... It makes sense. I'm stupid.

I tried the 2nd letter of every 9th tag... no joy =D

[jalyst]

This vid (posted previously)...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5224leqcOo
Says Australia will be the very 1st market? W00t!!!!!!
Trying to get info from the site that did the review, to find out what they base this on.

A tech site in Australia who was recently invited by Nokia Australia to have a look at the N9.
http://techgeek.com.au/2011/07/17/video-first-look-on-nokia-n9/
Has been told by Nokia that the N9 will be available in the Asia Pacific region with carriers by the end of Q3.

...the phone is scheduled for a release late Q3.
In addition, Australia and the Asia-Pacific will be the first region to launch this device, and all major carriers have shown interest on the phone

He was at pains to say that actual dates are entirely up to each carrier.
Oddly enough -despite specifically asking- they've not yet said anything about retailers

I'm hoping to get a specific date for retail availability, & some carriers (should they decide to release right way).
I don't like my chances :D

Disturbing claims about availability in Europe/NA in the comments section of this (http://techgeek.com.au/2011/07/15/gallery-hands-on-the-nokia-n9/) story by Terence.
I've responded with reasons why I think he's mistaken, I hope he is, for most of the folks on this forum's sake!

Do celebrities get this earlier?
Here's one indonesian celebrity
(Indonesia is one of nokia's main market)

Very cute...
I wanna get me some Indonesian lovin :D

[blipnl]

He was at pains to say that actual dates are entirely up to each carrier.

Very cute...
I wanna get me some Indonesian lovin :D

You should ask him for a 'happy ending' ;)

[shallimus]

The N9 that will be released i think will have some differences other than people are speculating about so really all the speculation is pointless.

What differences? Without a Nokia source, this is just pointless speculation.

;)

[Dave999]

@Rauha: MOARR PLZ! Rauha, moarrrr!!!

;)

http://media.n9pilot.se/2011/07/20110718017.jpg

EDIT "Strax efter tio kommer vi att vara vid väla-centrum och åka runt till de olika återförsäljarna som har äran att sälja Nokia N9 från och med den 23 september.
Kring lunch kommer vi att rulla ner mot city, där kan ni hitta oss på Kullagatan och Stortorget."

23th seems to be the date in the north...

[mikecomputing]

;)

http://media.n9pilot.se/2011/07/20110718017.jpg

EDIT "Strax efter tio kommer vi att vara vid väla-centrum och åka runt till de olika återförsäljarna som har äran att sälja Nokia N9 från och med den 23 september.
Kring lunch kommer vi att rulla ner mot city, där kan ni hitta oss på Kullagatan och Stortorget."

23th seems to be the date in the north...

This swedish girls had decided that MrFlop WIndowsPhone platform IS BURNING ;)

[steveburczymucha]

Ovi Store N9 Test Item ...

http://pokazywarka.pl/n6s1a2/

Meanwhile Nokia Poland submitted this vid to YT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olwACo-qO70

This is vid we all know but in localized form.

So generally it seems launch is pretty soon

[jpfsn]

Please let's try to get this back on track, I'd like to subscribe to this thread and actually be able to find out new tidbits about N9, which this thread should be all about. You all seem to be very well spoken, intelligent and vocal people, why not steer all that talent and energy to on-topic discussion?

Let's not drive away people that are in the know, but don't want to participate because the discussion just isn't very inviting.

I agree entirely Soppa.

Unfortunately, there will always be a minority who find it necessary to express their views in an aggressive, rude and ultimately arrogant manner. Sadly, this seems to be the trend on tmo in recent months. I'm guessing they've got bored of ranting on other mobile sites and decided to roost here.

I hope that if there are any moderators left on tmo, they take the time to safeguard the integrity of what was a highly respected site so that the sharing of intelligent comment, information and views can thrive again.

[jakiman]

There is a possibility that I might get an N9 in about 2 weeks from now.
But it will be the 16GB model and not the 64GB. Ah well, early is good. =P

[HtheB]

WTF?!?!?!

I found this link on the website from Nokia:
http://swipe.nokia.com/flash/assets/videos/markofinal.iphone.mp4

What in heaven has the word iphone to do in this link/video?....
O_o
how ironic...

[jo21]

WTF?!?!?!

I found this link on the website from Nokia:
http://swipe.nokia.com/flash/assets/videos/markofinal.iphone.mp4

What in heaven has the word iphone to do in this link/video?....
O_o
how ironic...

they are making fun of it.

"u dont have to hold it a weird way to make a call"

[ysss]

WTF?!?!?!

I found this link on the website from Nokia:
http://swipe.nokia.com/flash/assets/videos/markofinal.iphone.mp4

What in heaven has the word iphone to do in this link/video?....
O_o
how ironic...

That informercial looks very apple-y.

I wouldn't be surprised if Nokia's management, in desperation said something like "Oh wtf, the market has gone nuts. Let's just do what Apple does, cause that seems to be working in the current market climate."

I mean, just look at the N9: unibody design, UX centric, no hwkb, no removable battery, no flash, no hdmi, flashy marketing, and the list goes on...

[meego99]

That informercial looks very apple-y.

I wouldn't be surprised if Nokia's management, in desperation said something like "Oh wtf, the market has gone nuts. Let's just do what Apple does, cause that seems to be working in the current market climate."

I mean, just look at the N9: unibody design, UX centric, no hwkb, no removable battery, no flash, no hdmi, flashy marketing, and the list goes on...

iPhone 4 wannabe is the N9 motto

[jalyst]

WTF?!?!?!

I found this link on the website from Nokia:
http://swipe.nokia.com/flash/assets/videos/markofinal.iphone.mp4

What in heaven has the word iphone to do in this link/video?....
O_o
how ironic...

Wow, that is kinda embarrassing...
But no shame in borrowing "some" (there still huge differences, this oddly seems to go unnoticed by some) ideas that work.
To bad it's "looking" unlikely that a commercial apps market will be given much of a running-start to take off.

[jalyst]

That informercial looks very apple-y.

I wouldn't be surprised if Nokia's management, in desperation said something like "Oh wtf, the market has gone nuts. Let's just do what Apple does, cause that seems to be working in the current market climate."

I mean, just look at the N9: unibody design, UX centric, no hwkb, no removable battery, no flash, no hdmi, flashy marketing, and the list goes on...

UX centric?
Flash is still a possibility....
Service manual identified that it certainly is possible to change the battery.
Not recommended for r3t4rds though :D

[shallimus]

UX centric?
Flash is still a possibility....
Service manual identified that it certainly is possible to change the battery.
Not recommended for r3t4rds though :D
Heh :p Flash 10 is still a possibility for the N900, too. Don't hold your breath though.

UX-centric? I agree that can only be good, so long as we can still tinker to our heart's content (yes yes, Harmattan UI is closed, but we haven't even had a chance to play with it yet).

As for the non-replacable battery, I do find that to be a negative (even though it makes the device smaller and more beautiful), since sometimes it's nice to be able to take two batteries on a long trip away from wall power, and sometimes my N900 has needed a 'battery out' reset before it'll switch on (I've just been too lazy to research why this is - it was originally fixed in PR1.2 (I think 1.2?) but has come back to haunt me.

Sure, you can change the battery, but it's not a 30-second job, needs special tools, may void your warranty (if you screw it up) and you run the risk of breaking bits of the surround (read the service manual to see what I mean).

So yeah, much as my instinct is to defend anything which combines Linux/Nokia, I think "battery not replaceable" is a valid point. I've certainly made fun of my geek friends who [inexplicably, to my mind] tote an iPhone for it having the same issue.

[gerbick]

I found this link on the website from Nokia:
http://swipe.nokia.com/flash/assets/videos/markofinal.iphone.mp4

****. Now that totally sold me. I want a N9 again.

[danramos]

I agree entirely Soppa.

Unfortunately, there will always be a minority who find it necessary to express their views in an aggressive, rude and ultimately arrogant manner. Sadly, this seems to be the trend on tmo in recent months. I'm guessing they've got bored of ranting on other mobile sites and decided to roost here.

I hope that if there are any moderators left on tmo, they take the time to safeguard the integrity of what was a highly respected site so that the sharing of intelligent comment, information and views can thrive again.

Yes, agreed. I would like to ask you to stop being so arrogant and pretend that you're a perfect citizen while the people with opinions to debate and a differing perspective continue to exercise their freedom of expression.

I'm thankful for and hope that the moderators, who clearly are here and have posted in various threads themselves, continue to safeguard our ability to share our opinions, critiques and ideas despite the closed-mindedness and arrogance portrayed by some. It's one thing to point out that you disagree with someone, it's something altogether different to call for their quelling. If you don't like some of the people who post here.. there is an EXCELLENT "ignore" list you may wish to exercise to put on said digital blinders and live the life of blissful ignorance. ...or you may just wish to participate by disagreeing instead. MAYBE convince someone you way, for once.

That informercial looks very apple-y.

I wouldn't be surprised if Nokia's management, in desperation said something like "Oh wtf, the market has gone nuts. Let's just do what Apple does, cause that seems to be working in the current market climate."

I mean, just look at the N9: unibody design, UX centric, no hwkb, no removable battery, no flash, no hdmi, flashy marketing, and the list goes on...

iPhone 4 wannabe is the N9 motto

I've been saying that all along. It's TRYING... and failing on the PLATFORM front while technically trying to catch-up. So, I agree! Now let's hear from the folks that INSIST it's not an iPhone wannabe! THOSE are the people I like to hear from--you two have become BORING and agreeable. ;)

****. Now that totally sold me. I want a N9 again.

There ya go! :D

[Cue]

WTF?!?!?!

I found this link on the website from Nokia:
http://swipe.nokia.com/flash/assets/videos/markofinal.iphone.mp4

What in heaven has the word iphone to do in this link/video?....
O_o
how ironic...

wish I could actually watch the video but it seems like with most things from nokia it runs on anything other than a nokia.

[Creamy Goodness]

haha i'm gonna guess that maybe it's the mp4 version to play on iphones...

[0x4e84]

WTF?!?!?!

I found this link on the website from Nokia:
http://swipe.nokia.com/flash/assets/videos/markofinal.iphone.mp4

What in heaven has the word iphone to do in this link/video?....
O_o
how ironic...

I wouldn't get too excited about this... if you go one level up in the link (http://swipe.nokia.com/flash/assets/videos/) you'll see that there a whole bunch of different versions of the same video optimized for different platforms, one of them incidentally being for the "iPhone4"...

0x4e84

[Creamy Goodness]

double true!

[momcilo]

****. Now that totally sold me. I want a N9 again.

Now I am worried, gerbick is joining the rat race! :D

[jalyst]

Heh :p Flash 10 is still a possibility for the N900, too. Don't hold your breath though.

Well I will, because there's no reason to say it's def. not happening yet. :)
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1050222#post1050222

UX-centric? <SNIP>

I'm at a loss to see how "UX centric" can even be argued as a terrible aspect of the device.
Compared to say the N900, and given the device's core functions....
But we've seen that happen countless times, so I CBF'd opening that old chestnut.

As for the non-replacable battery, I do find that to be a negative (even though it makes the device smaller and more beautiful), since sometimes it's nice to be able to take two batteries on a long trip away from wall power, and sometimes my N900 has needed a 'battery out' reset before it'll switch on (I've just been too lazy to research why this is - it was originally fixed in PR1.2 (I think 1.2?) but has come back to haunt me.
Sure, you can change the battery, but it's not a 30-second job, needs special tools, may void your warranty (if you screw it up) and you run the risk of breaking bits of the surround (read the service manual to see what I mean).

I agree it is a valid point to raise....
But it's not fair to characterise it entirely as "not replaceable".
It is replaceable, just not as easily as the N900.
I suspect as we get much more familiar with the N9.
Users will work-out methods for how best to rapidly replace the battery with little risk.
It will never be as simple as the N900...
And if one's not too bright & can't follow detailed instructions.
Then there's always the risk of damage or voiding one's warranty.
I wonder how easy/difficult it is compared to iP4, the comparisons will be interesting :D

I've been saying that all along. It's TRYING... and failing on the PLATFORM front while technically trying to catch-up.

Well of course it's failing on the "commercial apps/ecosystem" front...
Nokia's never seriously attempted to open one up for Maemo/MeeGo.
Party because it just hasn't had a final consumer solution till recently, & partly due to various other incompetent reasons.
The only chance of there being some semblance of one, that has any kind of self-sustaining momentum, FINALLY.
Is for folks to embrace the N9 at half-decent no's compared to the N900, & for a fairly sustained period.
6mth is a long time in this sector & well past a "sustained period", if the adoption rate is much better than the N900.

While technically trying to catch-up? :confused: It seems that...
You've completely forgotten other things folks have highlighted, or refuse to acknowledge them as correct, even if true.
Countless times it's been demonstrated why it's better in many, if not most (not every), hardware/software aspects.

iP5 is potentially another ball game...
But technically it's still vaporware until official specs & instantaneous availability is announced.
And according to all acct's I've read so far, this yr's iP5 will be one of the most minor releases yet.
There's a "big one" planned for the iP6 in approx. Q2 (possibly May) next year.
And you can "bet your bottom dollar" that Apple (unlike Nokia) will deliver in that quarter.

So, I agree! Now let's hear from the folks that INSIST it's not an iPhone wannabe! THOSE are the people I like to hear from

No, we've tried, but you've already made-up your mind.
You aint gunna change it for anyone, or anything. ;) :D
And neither are we: "Nahnahnahnahnahnahnah, I can't hear you!"

[abill_uk]

That video makes the N900 look awfully boring and OLD and my thoughts are when this N9 does finally hit the shelves it is going to spell the end of the N900 for sure.

[Clausi]

Anyone already seen the new clue for today?

Edit: Oh sry it is announced for 9 pm

[ysss]

@jalyst, shallimus: well then, copying Apple is not ALL bad is it?

Seriously though, the effort to replace N9's battery is similar to what you need to do to replace an iPhone's battery. And I should've worded it non user replaceable battery.

happy nao? ;)

[dtergens]

N9 Sea Ray proto ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMhSRyDSlWc



Have to beware of the N9 fake ... http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/350217269.png?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1311098576&Signature=kicIOnQvzmTI2d4SiJnJi15ggi8%3D
:D

[funkmunk]

NEW CLUE: CLUE: Everyone has one. But this isn’t straightforward.

What could this mean??

[jalyst]

@jalyst, shallimus: well then, copying Apple is not ALL bad is it?

Never said it was :)

Seriously though, the effort to replace N9's battery is similar to what you need to do to replace an iPhone's battery.

Time will tell exactly how much easier or harder it is. *shrugs*

And I should've worded it non user replaceable battery.
happy nao? ;)

I'd prefer:
Non user replaceable battery (except if you're technically inclined, & voiding warranties isn't scary to you)

:D

[mohannad]

NEW CLUE: CLUE: Everyone has one. But this isn’t straightforward.

What could this mean??

trying to figure it out.... brains? thats something i feel like i dont have at the moment?

[jalyst]

NEW CLUE: CLUE: Everyone has one. But this isn’t straightforward.

What could this mean??

crap just as i've got to go to sleep :(

[HtheB]

trying to figure it out.... brains? thats something i feel like i dont have at the moment?
Just what I thought too

[momcilo]

Next #N9Seconds clue: Tomorrow at 9am BST – stay tuned! http://nokia.ly/nJACrG

[somedude]

the new clue doesnot seem to realte anything like work, dream, sorts. drawing blank now

[Dave999]

just go to work save money and buy the device instead...why waste time?

[somedude]

just go to work save money and buy the device instead...why waste time?

this is much more fun..... and almost everyone works so why not save that instead of buying if u win for free?

[Dave999]

yes. but you will get the phones faster if you buy it than if you win it.

[somedude]

not known for a fact yet

[Guffaw]

If nobody finds the last code before the end of the year, winners are doomed. :p

[naabi]

My guess was simply that everyone of these ads has a single character, since they quite obviously have these characters. I've found the following candidates, and believe me, I've tried quite much of different combinations.

First ad:

My best quess would be S that's visible when the lady is wiping the table. Another option could be the lone A in the taxi sign.

http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/994/90373225.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/121/90373225.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6377/63068177.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/192/63068177.jpg/)

Second ad:

Could be the lone T in the taxi sign or the 0 in the calculator.

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/8687/13831031.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/217/13831031.jpg/)

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8344/64888034.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/23/64888034.jpg/)

Third ad:

Player has the number 3 in his shirt. It's mirrored, so maybe the whole scene is mirrored ;) It could be a geeky E also...

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2852/44204966.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/38/44204966.jpg/)

Fourth ad:

There's a clear N in the shoe.

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4938/66419621.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/143/66419621.jpg/)

Fifth ad:

The kids hat looks like X and next to the balloon there is P.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9729/5pxk.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/215/5pxk.jpg/)

Sixth ad:

Again there's the taxi stuff. And a nine in the clock which everyone has seen.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/5148/51194208.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/220/51194208.jpg/)

Way to spend your vacation, I'm heading to bed now (alone). Good luck everyone.

[HtheB]

My guess was simply that everyone of these ads has a single character, since they quite obviously have these characters. I've found the following candidates, and believe me, I've tried quite much of different combinations.


All those letters combined was: STEPIN

that answer was already found before

[toki]

All those letters combined was: STEPIN

that answer was already found before

but i dont get how those letters make stepin?
how and in wht order did we work it out to be stepin?




AND the new clue makes absolute no sense to me... it doesnt help at all

[naabi]

All those letters combined was: STEPIN

that answer was already found before

Well, I don't exactly feel like a genius right now.

[mikecomputing]

If nobody finds the last code before the end of the year, winners are doomed. :p

thing is I havent seen what the winning price really is! So now my guess is its a ****ing WP7 phone thats why the price is not until end of december ;)

so all WP fanboys should participate ;)

[mikecomputing]

Well, I don't exactly feel like a genius right now.

everyone should try the world: WPSUCK

[toki]

why would it be a wp7 phone if this whole activity requires us to look deeply and constantly into the n9 ads?

everything in this is about n9.. why would they give us a wp7? makes no sense

[naabi]

thing is I havent seen what the winning price really is! So now my guess is its a ****ing WP7 phone thats why the price is not until end of december ;)

Makes sense. Nokia can't be so stupid that it would give some "end-of-life announced before even released" devices to it's fanboys.

[Cue]

LIFE, it's something everybody has and it's not always straightforward.

[gerbick]

everyone should try the world: WPSUCK

I already tried NOTWP7. No such luck.

[jo21]

but but i want n9 :/

[ysss]

yes. but you will get the phones faster if you buy it than if you win it.

Puzzles are fun!
You can still buy the phone when it launch and sell/give this away if you win it :)

[jo21]

well n9 looks like a winner liveprofile its getting released for it too.

now only platform without it its s40 but i guess that should get it too.


open pro side of nokia was smart moving QT to s40, nokia will keep it smartphone marketshare by making dumbphones smarter.

[FranzDages]

This may be mentioned somewhere, but I don't remember seeing it. If you win the puzzle do you get a 16G or 64G N9 ? I've played around with it some (no luck so far), but realised that if I got a 16G I would end up buying a 64G device anyway. Not saying that I couldn't sell the 16G device, but it made me realise that I'm not going to spend an inordinate amount of time on it.

[Cue]

This may be mentioned somewhere, but I don't remember seeing it. If you win the puzzle do you get a 16G or 64G N9 ? I've played around with it some (no luck so far), but realised that if I got a 16G I would end up buying a 64G device anyway. Not saying that I couldn't sell the 16G device, but it made me realise that I'm not going to spend an inordinate amount of time on it.

Doesn't even say it will be an n9 yet alone whether it's 16 or 64GB

[ysss]

@FranzDages:

Yes, you will still still play it for:

a). Gloating rights.
b). Convenience and guarantee of getting a set wherever you are in the world.
c). A chance to get it before retail.
d). Its value. Whether 64GB or 16GB, you can still offset it to your actual purchase cost if you want different memory size/color.
e). Satisfaction of winning a competition.
f). Gloating rights.

[jo21]

pff i would be happy with a magenta version too.

i just want a n9

[gerbick]

Well... apparently the three solutions I've come up with, much smarter people have come up before me.

I've applied for the N950, got turned down repeatedly.

And I still have no clue when it's coming to the US. Seriously Nokia, make it harder for me to get access to your device...

[manojlds]

Well... apparently the three solutions I've come up with, much smarter people have come up before me.

I've applied for the N950, got turned down repeatedly.

And I still have no clue when it's coming to the US. Seriously Nokia, make it harder for me to get access to your device...

I had applied and haven't got any reply yet. Does that mean they have rejected it or did you get some confirmation that you have been "turned down"?

[meego99]

Well... apparently the three solutions I've come up with, much smarter people have come up before me.

I've applied for the N950, got turned down repeatedly.

And I still have no clue when it's coming to the US. Seriously Nokia, make it harder for me to get access to your device...

So clueless. It ain't coming to America

[jo21]

So clueless. It ain't coming to America

amazon its good enough.

[bsd1101]

i've been on n9seconds way to long

[gerbick]

I had applied and haven't got any reply yet. Does that mean they have rejected it or did you get some confirmation that you have been "turned down"?

Which developer program did you go through? The community (Meego.com) or via Nokia Developer?

If the former, rejection e-mail letters went out about a week or so ago. If the latter, no clue on when they will respond.

[manojlds]

Which developer program did you go through? The community (Meego.com) or via Nokia Developer?

If the former, rejection e-mail letters went out about a week or so ago. If the latter, no clue on when they will respond.

Nokia Developer. Not really done any QT development yet, so don't think they will be favourable.

[gerbick]

Nokia Developer. Not really done any QT development yet, so don't think they will be favourable.

Get Qt Creator and if you have any other experience, start porting your pre-existing applications. I'm seriously contemplating doing that for the couple of Android apps I currently have out there.

[jalyst]

open pro side of nokia was smart moving QT to s40, nokia will keep it smartphone marketshare by making dumbphones smarter.

I'm not sure if that's what they're trying to do...
I think they're just trying to fortify their feature/dumbphone market-share.
They're banking on a massive chunk of the emerging world not wanting smartphones for some time.
Can't put lipstick on a pig & say: "there, we now have us a full-blown smartphone OS."

[jo21]

I'm not sure if that's what they're trying to do...
I think they're just trying to fortify their feature/dumbphone market-share.
They're banking on a massive chunk of the emerging world not wanting smartphones for some time.
Can't put lipstick on a pig & say: "there, we now have us a full-blown smartphone OS."

apple did with with the iphone 2g. and it worked.

[abbra]

In emerging world there is indeed larger market opportunity for something local. It might be called differently than "full-blown smartphone OS", it would need to support other means to deliver applications and content than centralized single "application store" but fashion for apps is there as well. If Nokia would be able to introduce answers to some of those questions in a locally-optimized way, they may have quite a fortune. They have some experimental bits and pieces already, tested in India and African countries, and elsewhere. There is still large gap going from experiments to a market.

[Saew]

:O I won!

Sorry for the short message, Im at my work atm :P

The solution was 'LLORAH', which is 'Haroll' backwards!

So the illegible taxi drivers name was a code after all... :O

Edit: Oh and thanks for all the advice from this thread :)

Entering the code was very exciting; as my N900 just ran out of battery and was complaining as i tried entering my email address below the 'WINNER' banner :o and every time I tried to click on the webpage, a new browser screen with n9seconds.com opened up!

[Guffaw]

14 Down 6 To Go
Haha i tried Haroll 2 days ago :eek:

Congrats!

[jo21]

:O I won!

Sorry for the short message, Im at my work atm :P

The solution was 'LLORAH', which is 'Haroll' backwards!

So the illegible taxi drivers name was a code after all... :O

i got HAROLD ... i try it backwards too :/

gratz. :/

i did try haroll too but not backwards >.<

[momcilo]

:O I won!

Sorry for the short message, Im at my work atm :P

The solution was 'LLORAH', which is 'Haroll' backwards!

So the illegible taxi drivers name was a code after all... :O

Where did you pick it up?

[jo21]

Where did you pick it up?

they said its not mr.bickle. thats a character from a taxi driver movie.


i been trying to decypher the taxi drivers name for a while now but my screen low quality video didnt help :/

i try all combinations of harold since day one T_T

[Guffaw]

:
Entering the code was very exciting; as my N900 just ran out of battery and was complaining as i tried entering my email address below the 'WINNER' banner :o and every time I tried to click on the webpage, a new browser screen with n9seconds.com opened up!

Yeah, i got scared from those pop ups too :p
Bickle = Travis Bickle the Taxi Driver
But not everyone got one :(

[Saew]

Where did you pick it up?

Second clip, about 3 seconds in, I think.

To any of the other winners, do you get an email straight away? I'm still waiting for an email and hoping i didnt typo my emailaddress :O

[Saew]

14 Down 6 To Go
Haha i tried Haroll 2 days ago :eek:

Congrats!

And ty! I tried Haroll a while ago as well, and _thought_ I tried Llorah as well, but I guess not :)

[EspeonEefi]

To any of the other winners, do you get an email straight away? I'm still waiting for an email and hoping i didnt typo my emailaddress :O

I haven't heard anything from Nokia since putting in my email address two days ago. I have the same worry... :-/

[joelus]

Second clip, about 3 seconds in, I think.


I still don't see it... Can you specify where you saw the name please, it's driving me nuts.

[Saew]

I haven't heard anything from Nokia since putting in my email address two days ago. I have the same worry... :-/

Thanks, that's somewhat reassuring :)

[Guffaw]

I still don't see it... Can you specify where you saw the name please, it's driving me nuts.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-kdvjWHpAl7g/TiLKGzoR3DI/AAAAAAAAAJY/tEZ5c06Quvg/s800/n9football.jpg

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/BIDHBolVgd7KGz5Vnnr6WLEEowZBcoCFeYMastRyWxI?feat=d irectlink

Uploaded this pic 17th :D

Next to the football.

[toki]

man! i dont see the name anywhere!!!

iv paused, start pause like every clip with the taxi guy, and i dont seem to be able to find his name shown anywhere! O_O"

GAH!!

[jo21]

And ty! I tried Haroll a while ago as well, and _thought_ I tried Llorah as well, but I guess not :)

i been trying to decypher his name since the first DAY. :/

everyone have one a = a name.

its not always straight forward= its backwards

not mr. blicke = taxi drivers name.


only if video was better quality.. i been trying to decypher last letter for so long :/

[Guffaw]

Thanks, that's somewhat reassuring :)

They will contact us after all codes are found and before 31.12.2011 :rolleyes:

[Saew]

I still don't see it... Can you specify where you saw the name please, it's driving me nuts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_-geLw1zvg#t=0m05s

^ If its not working, the link (cuz its not at my work), its on the taxi drivers jacket at 0:05, when the camera is looking through the front window :)

[toki]

oh man!!! you can barely read that!!

i couldnt even work out the first letter.. lol!

[momcilo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_-geLw1zvg#t=0m05s

^ If its not working, the link (cuz its not at my work), its on the taxi drivers jacket at 0:05, when the camera is looking through the front window :)

Which resolution did you use?

I've used 720p, and for several codes it simply is not possible to deterministicaly read the inscriptions (Ubuntu 11.04 on macbook)

Do we all see the "same" pictures?

[jo21]

i was so close i am mentally destroyed now :/

i will so hate everyone named harold now.

[munkiii]

I've watched and screenshot every frame possible in 720p, and still can't make out the name on the jacket!

[pelago]

I'm getting very disillusioned by this competition. I don't mind downloading the videos and freeze-framing/single-frame-advancing them, but how on earth can people read what that name says? I've got the video in 720p and have zoomed in, but I still can't read it. Same with the 850630 code too (the alarm times).

Are there 1080p versions of the videos somewhere that some people have found?

[joelus]

Now I'm going to have to reexamine every blur on on every video and squint my eyes till I see letters

[jo21]

i even found the font they use to write the name.

Palace Script MT

trying to decypher low quality video name T_T

[Saew]

I can't read it either, I just guessed :/

Knew it couldn't be "Harold" though, cuz the two stripes at the end were too close to eachother.

And no, I used the 720p version as well :)

Back to work !

[abill_uk]

Just found this from Siamphone and they say N9 available from december, is worth a look because the specs are all there on both the 32 and 64 gb versions.

http://www.siamphone.com/spec/nokia/n9_64_gb.htm

Google translate and it will show in English ok.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.siamphone.com%2Fspec%2Fnokia%2F n9_64_gb.htm

[keflex]

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1735543&p=8

Looks like we don't have gapless playback, which is a pretty big downer I think.

[bald.eagle.one]

does anybody know if
nokia releases n9 with win7 in uk (more likely imo)
will it be possible to flash it with Harmattan?

[NvyUs]

is it just me or is there really 6 letters on the Tyre of the taxi when the woman gets in it on video 1 (ballerina) ?

[jakiman]

does anybody know if
nokia releases n9 with win7 in uk (more likely imo)
will it be possible to flash it with Harmattan?

No. It might use the same casing but internally, it will most likely use Snapdragon (like the 1st gen WP7 phones) and not Cortex A8 like the N9. (it would be a waste of time trying to make WP7 work on Cortex A8 and Elop did attend Qualcomm event recently...)

[jakiman]

is it just me or is there really 6 letters on the Tyre of the taxi when the woman gets in it on video 1 (ballerina) ?

There certainly is. But it's extremely hard to make out. Especially the last character. :(

[jo21]

is it just me or is there really 6 letters on the Tyre of the taxi when the woman gets in it on video 1 (ballerina) ?

even if there is ist unreadble

if u use ur imagine u can see

E near bottom

C L next to each other.

though i am starting to think some codes maybe changed or being added later.

[prometoys]

they said its not mr.bickle. thats a character from a taxi driver movie.


where did they said, its not mr.bickle? I couldn't find this hint, the tweet as I see it is only "CLUE: Everyone has one. But this isn’t straightforward. "

[eres]

where did they said, its not mr.bickle? I couldn't find this hint, the tweet as I see it is only "CLUE: Everyone has one. But this isn’t straightforward. "

just refresh the tweets
new clue was posted 2h ago

[Guffaw]

Nokia Norway now saying release during September in Norway. :eek:

[Kozzi]

please stop talking about n9seconds, it's messing with my head and can't stop following this thread.

[meego99]

Will Amazon sell it? If it is not tied to a carrier, volumes sold in America will be extremely low

[pelago]

http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1735543&p=8

Looks like we don't have gapless playback, which is a pretty big downer I think.

Gapless playback relies on a few things, including the files need to be in the right format. Often "random" mp3 files ripped from CDs or downloaded will not play as gapless, for example (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gapless_playback). It's quite possible that the person reporting that on the thread was not testing with "gapless-capable" files, so I wouldn't worry too much until we get more info.

[pelago]

even if there is ist unreadble

if u use ur imagine u can see

E near bottom

C L next to each other.

though i am starting to think some codes maybe changed or being added later.

I would expect that's just the manufacturer of the tyre, and I doubt that Nokia would want another brand name like DUNLOP (for example) to be one of the answers. (I just tried that anyway, though, and POLNUD!)

[scapegoat845]

is it just me or is there really 6 letters on the Tyre of the taxi when the woman gets in it on video 1 (ballerina) ?

I've been trying to figure that out for days....

[scapegoat845]

Will Amazon sell it? If it is not tied to a carrier, volumes sold in America will be extremely low

I for one hate being tied to a contract here in the states. I'm buying the unlocked vers. so i can keep my $50/month at&t go phone plan :D

[zymo]

several times the website of „Monocle“ appears on the N9. maybe a hint?

i’ve tried the street code of monocle HQ ( W1U 4EG; forward and backward),the geo/gps codes and other combination, but fail.

[recluse]

I've watched and screenshot every frame possible in 720p, and still can't make out the name on the jacket!
Haroll not happy (http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/8177/haroll1.png) with you. (http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/692/haroll2.png)

[jo21]

several times the website of „Monocle“ appears on the N9. maybe a hint?

i’ve tried the street code of monocle HQ ( W1U 4EG; forward and backward),the geo/gps codes and other combination, but fail.

sofanatics.com too but no luck XD

[Goliath27]

how are you guys watching and pausing the video? ****ing youtube sucks for that and don't feel like downloading and editing these clips

[zymo]

how are you guys watching and pausing the video? ****ing youtube sucks for that and don't feel like downloading and editing these clips

using fast the space key

[AlexV12]

using "space" in youtube works pretty well.. best way is to edit the clips.

[mikecomputing]

Nokia Norway now saying release during September in Norway. :eek:

yes probadly the same as sweden, means nothing new about this.

[ysss]

how are you guys watching and pausing the video? ****ing youtube sucks for that and don't feel like downloading and editing these clips

download a 720p mp4 version off youtube with jdownloader.org, watch with quicktime player. left and right cursor to go frame by frame.

[pelago]

download a 720p mp4 version off youtube with jdownloader.org, watch with quicktime player. left and right cursor to go frame by frame.

Or use keepvid.com if you don't want to install any software.

[hayman]

did any body manage to read the tattoo of the player(in the douch)and there is a locker with out the orange color ,maybe the number of it ...?

[vitaminj]

I've grabbed the 720p flvs using Firebug's net monitor and then am using Media Player Classic to step by frame. Not sure whether they are clearer than mp4 or not - probably the same. It seems some of the answers were only just made visible on the 1080p master though - would be nice if they could upload that version, or a higher bitrate, or to Vimeo, or give us all free CSI "enhance" software, or...

[Creamy Goodness]

or give us all free CSI "enhance" software, or...

just remined me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vxq9yj2pVWk

[Creamy Goodness]

I'm getting very disillusioned by this competition. I don't mind downloading the videos and freeze-framing/single-frame-advancing them, but how on earth can people read what that name says? I've got the video in 720p and have zoomed in, but I still can't read it. Same with the 850630 code too (the alarm times).

Are there 1080p versions of the videos somewhere that some people have found?

ask the stupid marketing company responsible for this waste of time?
luxus.fi
when they say "go deep into the source" i thought they ****ing meant it. lazy *******s can't even be bothered to hide anything good.

[jalyst]

apple did with with the iphone 2g. and it worked.

I realise, but iP2g was a looooong time ago in this industry.....
And it'd be mighty hard to attract many smartphone buyers (if any) given the competition, & how crowded the market is.

You need something truly compelling from the UI, right through to the kernel.
It's like turning around and saying:
Symbian + Qt didn't work, but we're going to use something that's a subset of Symbian + Qt, & that'll work.
Yes Qt's seeing huge improvements, but that isn't enough to compensate for S40, & thereby take-on iOS/Android/WP once again.

But it's definitely a great move to consolidate their hold on the featurephone market.
So long the demographics they're targeting, don't start paying extra for smartphones, if pricing comes down enough.

If they want to advance their smartphone stock using Qt, why not go as hard with MeeGo*, as they are with WP?
Sigh, then again this is "Nokia logic" we're dealing with, & maybe part of the agreement w/MS explicitly prevents that? :(

Incidentally I just came across this...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/03/10/nokia_ui_saga/
Not sure if it's entirely accurate, but interesting read nonetheless.
Adds to the depression too.... :D

*1x device /yr for starters

[Goliath27]

Thanks for the advice on the frame by frame, space bar will do juuuust fine!!!!! (actually realized that last night before it was posted here lol)

[jalyst]

does anybody know if
nokia releases n9 with win7 in uk (more likely imo)
will it be possible to flash it with Harmattan?

I believe searay is a totally diff. SoC (qualcomm IIRC) but similar specs/performance.
So I don't think flashing with harmattan will be possible.
But I see no reason why UK won't get the N9, maybe at the same time or later than searay.
But you'll definitely get it.... It's already with retailers on pre-order.

*edit*
my bad jakiman already answered

Oh and more good news... for Apple
http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2011/07/apple-posts-record-quarter-on-sales-of-20-billion-iphones-9-billion-ipads.ars

[mikecomputing]

I believe searay is a totally diff. SoC (qualcomm IIRC) but similar specs/performance.


yes http://twitpic.com/5siddh/full

[Dave999]

Still. I want that forth button.

[zymo]

yes http://twitpic.com/5siddh/full

hilarious! KIRF Nokia N9 with WP7 :D

[catbus]

3butts <- winner

[Guffaw]

http://swipe.nokia.com/ -- Scroll down.
Check 'More Videos', 3rd video,
"Nokia N8 - Now in Pink" from May. N9Seconds or just a mistake? :p

[Rhishi]

Future of meego depends on if it is released in india. I changed to s2 as nokia india refused to repair charging port of my n900 which I used, no I lived to for 1 year. Now see india is nokia's largest market and if n900 was here for 650 usd n9 could not be for more, again in here phones are not sold thorough operators but we by default buy unlocked and choose which operator sim we want to use, so this glossy piece if sold in india ( in list of countries india is missing) can be a smashing hit and nokia won't have to convince operators and popular phone in india can never die and nokia can never stop from making sister phones, take my words.

[HtheB]

Future of meego depends on if it is released in india. I changed to s2 as nokia india refused to repair charging port of my n900 which I used, no I lived to for 1 year. Now see india is nokia's largest market and if n900 was here for 650 usd n9 could not be for more, again in here phones are not sold thorough operators but we by default buy unlocked and choose which operator sim we want to use, so this glossy piece if sold in india ( in list of countries india is missing) can be a smashing hit and nokia won't have to convince operators and popular phone in india can never die and nokia can never stop from making sister phones, take my words.

Thats the reason why the N9 wouldn't hit the stores in the biggest "Nokia Countries"...

[jakiman]

Korea is another country heavily into "trends". Their cycle is extremely short and people change phones, clothes, hair styles, bags etc sometimes every few months. LG and Samsung (both Korean companies) knows this very well and markets it appropriately.

I reckon for the first time, N9 with its sleek design and fancy UI could do really well in Korea. In fact, N8 has quite a following in Korea even though they never released it there due to N8 being the BEST camera phone in the market to date. So there are heaps of people importing it and for the first time, a proper Symbian Korean keyboard replacement was created by the Korean community devs this year due to such momentum. (I have it installed on my E7 and it's brilliant)

So yeah. Nokia should really be pushing the N9 (and maybe N8) into the Korean market to try and gain some market/mind share there. (which they have near zero in Korea) I'm sure WP7 phones will do well because Mango supports full Korean. But I reckon N9/N8 would do equally as well if they just tried. (and have some core apps which is a must to succeed such as KakaoTalk which is Whatsapp equivalent in Korea and every iPhone/Android user uses it pretty much)

Ah well. I'm just glad I'm in Australia to have the N9 released locally. =P

[zfarooq]

Hey guys anybody know what the symbol next to the capture setting (2nd from left) is in the N9 camera?

Curious coz i cant fig it out:

https://picasaweb.google.com/zane.farooq/CameraN9#5631672022664418642

[abbra]

It is GPS coordinate tracking, optional, switches on/off in the settings. The two leftmost are optional (face tracking and GPS tracking), you may see screenshots somewhere with only three icons (flash, mode, and picture size). There are also white balance and exposure compensation icons which would appear there if you change them from automatic setting.

[zfarooq]

Ah thats why i was wondering coz some do and some dont. Thanks for the info!

[Kozzi]

Will Qt applications be able to use downloaded maps in storage or must there be an internet connection whenever there is need for ovi maps ? I mean for applications like eCoach, Sport tracker or GPS coord. links.

[abbra]

Will Qt applications be able to use downloaded maps in storage or must there be an internet connection whenever there is need for ovi maps ? I mean for applications like eCoach, Sport tracker or GPS coord. links.
See http://wiki.meego.com/Migrating_from_N900_to_N950#Map_loader for downloading maps offline (worked for me for whole Europe), Ovi Suite should also work fine.

However, A-GPS would need to download almanac and/or other data to speed up synchronization with sattelites, so some traffic may be unavoidable. I write may be as this is not my area of expertise and I may be well wrong.

[Kozzi]

See http://wiki.meego.com/Migrating_from_N900_to_N950#Map_loader for downloading maps offline (worked for me for whole Europe), Ovi Suite should also work fine.

However, A-GPS would need to download almanac and/or other data to speed up synchronization with sattelites, so some traffic may be unavoidable. I write may be as this is not my area of expertise and I may be well wrong.

I already know that Navigation (Maps) can use preloaded maps for offline navigation. Here I just wonder if this also applies to those applications that use maps. Will third party applications have access to the preloaded maps on the device ?

[abbra]

If they use provided API. http://library.developer.nokia.com/index.jsp?topic=/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_API/html/qtmobility/location-overview.html

[Dave999]

while waiting for this masterpiece until sept, create your own avatar!

http://appupavatar.com/

[casper27]

Hey guys further to the N9 not been released in certain countries.
I have a friend who works in a Vodafone shop, he told me the Nokia rep was coming to the Poole area to talk to various networks about upcoming handsets.
Basically he (Vodafone)and others O2, 3, Orange all got told the N9 will definately not be released in the UK. I spoke to a couple of the other reps in O2 and 3 networks and they got told the same thing :(

On a brighter note my mate at Vodafone did say that Nokia are releasing a Tablet next year Q1 which in the reps own words "will be different to anything else on the market" something will apparently be announced middle of next month August.

[Dave999]

Hey guys further to the N9 not been released in certain countries.
I have a friend who works in a Vodafone shop, he told me the Nokia rep was coming to the Poole area to talk to various networks about upcoming handsets.
Basically he (Vodafone)and others O2, 3, Orange all got told the N9 will definately not be released in the UK. I spoke to a couple of the other reps in O2 and 3 networks and they got told the same thing :(

On a brighter note my mate at Vodafone did say that Nokia are releasing a Tablet next year Q1 which in the reps own words "will be different to anything else on the market" something will apparently be announced middle of next month August.

Tabco...Tabco...Taco...mm, im hungry...

[zymo]

Hey guys further to the N9 not been released in certain countries.

Basically he (Vodafone)and others O2, 3, Orange all got told the N9 will definately not be released in the UK. I spoke to a couple of the other reps in O2 and 3 networks and they got told the same thing :(


Don’t panik. Just wait till it starts shipping to some regions. I am sure that UK will get it too. it’s just a matter of time :D

[Rugoz]

Basically he (Vodafone)and others O2, 3, Orange all got told the N9 will definately not be released in the UK. I spoke to a couple of the other reps in O2 and 3 networks and they got told the same thing


Still don't get why the N9 was released at all, only as a test bed for the swipe UI?


On a brighter note my mate at Vodafone did say that Nokia are releasing a Tablet next year Q1 which in the reps own words "will be different to anything else on the market" something will apparently be announced middle of next month August.


As long as it is not a w8 tablet..

[erendorn]

Don’t panik. Just wait till it starts shipping to some regions. I am sure that UK will get it too. it’s just a matter of time :D

Well in the euro zone, import will be a piece of cake. I suppose in the UK you will have to pay a small premium for the import if it is really no sold directly, but I doubt it.
I remember that for the N900 in france, it wasn't sold by any carriers, but I still got mine subsidized, just buying it from carephone warehouse.
As I am not planning in buying any subsidized phone anymore (it's just a hidden consumer loan, and as such is pretty expensive if you happen to have the cash). So I don't really care if it's sold by orange or O2 and I'll take it in france or UK as soon as web shop sells it.

[steveburczymucha]

Hey guys further to the N9 not been released in certain countries.
I have a friend who works in a Vodafone shop, he told me the Nokia rep was coming to the Poole area to talk to various networks about upcoming handsets.
Basically he (Vodafone)and others O2, 3, Orange all got told the N9 will definately not be released in the UK. I spoke to a couple of the other reps in O2 and 3 networks and they got told the same thing :(


They are betting one horse (WP7 crap) ... but taking into account recently published Nokia financial results (very, very poor) they must be mad to not sell promising N9 in so many markets.

Probably those markets will receive WP7 crap first and will have N9 in Q1 2012.

[mikecomputing]

Hey guys further to the N9 not been released in certain countries.
I have a friend who works in a Vodafone shop, he told me the Nokia rep was coming to the Poole area to talk to various networks about upcoming handsets.
Basically he (Vodafone)and others O2, 3, Orange all got told the N9 will definately not be released in the UK. I spoke to a couple of the other reps in O2 and 3 networks and they got told the same thing :(

On a brighter note my mate at Vodafone did say that Nokia are releasing a Tablet next year Q1 which in the reps own words "will be different to anything else on the market" something will apparently be announced middle of next month August.

Mid of August!?

check this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4APknB_OuI

:O :O Is it Nokia I was sceptical before, but now I wonder could it bhhe Nokia?

Lets hope it not ****ing Windows garbage ****

[bwalter]

According to today's interim report, it seems that Nokia at least does not completely disquality the hope of "creating a
competitive smartphone platform" as an alternative to the "partnership with Microsoft".

A possible interpretation is that the primary goal of the partnership with Microsoft is to provide a safe approach... in case the Meego platform does not succeed in competing with IOS and Android.

Source: http://www.cisionwire.com/nokia-oyj-g/r/nokia-q2-2011-net-sales-eur-9-3-billion--non-ifrs-eps-eur-0-06--reported-eps-eur--0-10-,e248093

Most intersting related quotes:

- "actual results may differ materially from the results that we currently expect. Factors that could cause these differences
include, but are not limited to: 1) our ability to succeed in creating a competitive smartphone platform for high-quality differentiated winning smartphones or in creating new sources of revenue through our partnership with Microsoft; "

- "our ability to realize a return on our investment in MeeGo and next generation devices, platforms and user experiences"

[jo21]

its have to be pull galaxy s2 iphone 4 /3gs profits and numbers.

nokia is dead as a smartphone manufacturer.

if price cuts dont help, they wont even have marketshare, for the first time ever profits are from dumpphone and royalties.

[mikecomputing]

its have to be pull galaxy s2 iphone 4 /3gs profits and numbers.

nokia is dead as a smartphone manufacturer.

if price cuts dont help, they wont even have marketshare, for the first time ever profits are from dumpphone and royalties.

There is to many amateur marketing experts in this forum....

[davidmaxwaterman]

There are too many amateur marketing experts in this forum....
..........

[pelago]

According to today's interim report, it seems that Nokia at least does not completely disquality the hope of "creating a
competitive smartphone platform" as an alternative to the "partnership with Microsoft".

A possible interpretation is that the primary goal of the partnership with Microsoft is to provide a safe approach... in case the Meego platform does not succeed in competing with IOS and Android.

Source: http://www.cisionwire.com/nokia-oyj-g/r/nokia-q2-2011-net-sales-eur-9-3-billion--non-ifrs-eps-eur-0-06--reported-eps-eur--0-10-,e248093

Most intersting related quotes:

- "actual results may differ materially from the results that we currently expect. Factors that could cause these differences
include, but are not limited to: 1) our ability to succeed in creating a competitive smartphone platform for high-quality differentiated winning smartphones or in creating new sources of revenue through our partnership with Microsoft; "

- "our ability to realize a return on our investment in MeeGo and next generation devices, platforms and user experiences"
That's part of the "FORWARD-LOOKING STATEMENTS" bit that they put at the bottom of their press releases and is just standard legal boilerplate stuff. That is, it isn't anything specifically written for that press release and isn't news as such.

[jo21]

There is to many amateur marketing experts in this forum....

and ur pro?

[Rauha]

yes http://twitpic.com/5siddh/full

So full of win. I hit the Thanks! already, but sometimes it just is not enough.

Tack så mycket.

[Dave999]

I'm a pro!

[egoshin]

Yesterday, I had my hands in N9 around 10min in Nokia Mountain View, CA. There was a "meetup" organized by Quim Gil and participants had a chance to play with it.

So, my short impression is here. I am not app developer, I am a kernel/HW driver developer, so I am primarily interested it as a tool. For specs, please see Nokia web-site.

First, it is solid and thin enough to be a modern smartphone - just 1/2 of N900. Anything about screen brightness or body scratchiness seems true. Touch screen is sensitive although Nexus-S may have a little better sensitivity - while typing on screen I had a couple of errors, definitely more than Nexus-S but it may be counted to slightly different virtual KBD size and layout.

However, both buttons - UP/DOWN and POWER are located on the same right size, in N900 style. Plus POWER button is bigger (regular size) and it is difficult to avoid pressing it while keep N9 in left hand. At least I accidentally switched N9 off once. I am surprised why Nokia didn't put it on any short side.

USB socket is covered and to open just press one side of cover (no host USB :(). The adjacent SIM slot is actually a hole with SIM card holder (regular SIM for development edition which I played, it should be microSIM in production). Both slot are located on short side of body. Another short side has a headphone jack and mic/speaker.

No visible way to open a body but SIM card hole has an adjacent screw deep in hole. There is no even thin gap between screen and body.

Forward camera is in right down side.

Nokia variant of MeeGo user interface seems more interesting than Android's (Gingerbred on Nexus-S) - it is very easy to switch between app windows or kill it or thatever and it seems much more convenient at least for me. The downside is - it has only one home screen to place your widgets. However, to go to apps start just swipe right-2-left, select and press. To go to working apps - swipe a different way and you are in 4 or 9 small windows in something similar of N900. In comparison with N900 all windows are sharp and you can see that is going on on any. Swipe up/down is used for extensions if you have more 9 windows. You can kill any app here too. Each browser page is a separate window, of course.

The most significant point is - it is a WAY faster than N900, thanks to 1GHz by 1GB! The responsiveness is pretty good even with app start or changing windows. The only place which may be a little slowly than Android is a "Setting" switch - there is a small lag between you press a menu position and a function start.

Browser is fast too. But I should say that N9 power saving was switched off (I discovered it at the end) and it uses WiFi - no SIM card was inserted. Before me one man played a lot with browser (it has a "Nokia" browser based on WebKit2, not Microb) figuring the browser limits on github tests. I should say that there is no Adobe flashplayer and (probably) - no Java (N9 is HTML5 based), so his result seems to be 50-50. But graphic subsystem has OpenGL ES 2.0 interface, so high res moving pictures still good.

Multitouch works fine in browser and maps but browser wraps up only with some pages - seems to be a page design problem.

Map was designed specifically for driving, at least Nokia people stated that. It seems fine in 2D and good enough in 3D. Compass and slanting orientation work good and accurate. Positioning works with any GPS standard (A-GPS etc) and it may use "WiFi positioning" - I think it is a Google-like WiFi positioning. Maps for your continent are preloaded before device will be shipped to you and it can be used offline, w/out cell-phone coverage(!).

I was not able to test phone features because lack of SIM card but Nokia people said that N9 contacts still separately synced - Skype has no knowledge of your phone contacts but contact app uses all of them. Also they said it has all 5 mobile world data frequencies and in fact only CDMA and Japan phone variants are missed. But I didn't noticed GTalk (may be lack of time or it is hidden in "messaging"), skype is a separate.

Productivity tools are seems of course (M$ :) good - full sync with Exchange and Google calendars etc. I didn't test it but I believe it can work fine with docs and excel files.

Device has an embedded "development" setting - then I pressed it downloads 20+MB and Terminal apps occurs.

Camera... didn't test, they said it may do HD 720 30fps video...

[jalyst]

poor nokia
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/21/nokia-q2-2011-operating-profit-down-44-percent-since-q1-challe
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/21/apple-outpaces-nokia-in-global-smartphone-shipments/

[Dave999]

poor nokia
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/21/nokia-q2-2011-operating-profit-down-44-percent-since-q1-challe
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/21/apple-outpaces-nokia-in-global-smartphone-shipments/

Bad news is good News

[catbus]

Stepin ?

(few chars more...)

[Guffaw]

15 Down - 5 To Go :rolleyes:

Next clue: 9am BST, July 22

[Saew]

15 Down - 5 To Go :rolleyes:

Next clue: 9am BST, July 22

i wonder what the solution was :p

[solidpace]

15 Down - 5 To Go :rolleyes:

Next clue: 9am BST, July 22

Hi,

Just figured I'd pop in and say thanks for this thread, apart from being a help in the competition it also was an interesting read otherwise.

The correct answer was the six first characters of the MD5 Hash of the word "Stepin" - the # key is apparently called the Hash key in among other places Singapore (where would one be without Wikipedia?).

Let's hope Nokia continues on the MeeGo route despite Mr. Elop's assurances to the contrary.

[Guffaw]

i wonder what the solution was :p

Indeed. I tried STEPIN in numbers from phone keyboard, and the seconds from the videos when they showed the letters.

[Guffaw]

Hi,

Just figured I'd pop in and say thanks for this thread, apart from being a help in the competition it also was an interesting read otherwise.

The correct answer was the six first characters of the MD5 Hash of the word "Stepin" - the # key is apparently called the Hash key in among other places Singapore (where would one be without Wikipedia?).

Let's hope Nokia continues on the MeeGo route despite Mr. Elop's assurances to the contrary.

So, FA279A ?

[solidpace]

So, FA279A ?

No, the S had to be capitalised, so c3ce97.

[Saew]

Hi,

Just figured I'd pop in and say thanks for this thread, apart from being a help in the competition it also was an interesting read otherwise.

The correct answer was the six first characters of the MD5 Hash of the word "Stepin" - the # key is apparently called the Hash key in among other places Singapore (where would one be without Wikipedia?).

Let's hope Nokia continues on the MeeGo route despite Mr. Elop's assurances to the contrary.

Zomg.. I actually looked up the MD5 hash code for 'Stepin' and thought... "Should I try to enter the first 6 characters? How would u have to figure that out from the ads that you'd have to use an md5 hash on 'stepin'?" so i didnt enter it :(

Grats on winning it ! :D

[Guffaw]

No, the S had to be capitalised, so c3ce97.

Aha, nice one :D

[Guest]

****.. This was the first thing that popped in to my mind, but I just thought that MD5 is too long, then tried to encipher it with autokey. So close.. :)