The EPIC N950 anticipation thread

[marktold]

Now that we know what the N9 brings - lets start hoping for the N950!

N900 features missing on N9
- qwertz keybord
- customizable screen (contacts mostly - fast access)
- some widgets - Calander
- FM transmitter (listen to internet radio in car - no bluetooth on radio)
- Stylus (I know no multitouch but the stylus is simply the best)
N900 features that are not that importand missing on N9
- IR Port
- Lens Cover
- Kick Stand
N9 Features probably better then N900
- Battery life
- Camera MP and speed
- Design (weight)
- Maps and Navigation for Sure
- Browser maybe
- If Flash 10.x then Flash

What I am looking for in N950
N900
+ Dual Core processor
+ Flash 10.x support
+ Bigger screen 4" or more
+ Bigger resolution 1024 x 768 would be nice
+ Slimmer but slighly bigger

Markus

[attila77]

Note that the N950 is the developer device for the N9, thus not much different in ways that would require porting or special adaptations.

From https://www.developer.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/3744886f-69c1-4544-8ad3-72b352b4a832/Nokia_N950_OneClickFlashers_Release_Notes.html

Nokia N950 phone hardware specification
=======================================

Nokia N950 phone uses same hardware components as the Nokia N9 phone
with the following exceptions:

* N950 is physically larger and is made out of aluminum, whereas N9 has
a polycarbonate unibody.
* N950 has a physical slide-out QWERTY keyboard. The N9 is a touchscreen
-only device.
* N950 has a 4” TFT LCD display whereas N9 has 3.9” AMOLED display.
Display resolution is same on both devices (854x480). Due to the use
of different display technologies, developers should avoid one pixel
with fonts and graphical objects with lines one pixel wide. Also avoid
the extensive use of bright colors, especially white, when developing
for OLED displays as this increases the power consumption (typical
for OLED displays).
* N950 has a different physical camera module than N9. Both camera
modules have very similar image quality (Carl Zeiss branding in N9)
and both modules support 8Mpix image mode.
* In the N950 the front facing camera is in top right corner and on N9
it is in the bottom right corner. The actual camera module is same.
* N950 supports Bluetooth version 2.1+EDR, whereas N9 supports
version 4.0
* N950 does not have support for NFC
* N9 has slightly more sensitive magnetometer and ALS
* N950 has 1320mAh battery, the N9 has 1450mAh battery

[SAABoy]

lol @ thread name

[riceboy]

Wow that was quick haha

[HELLASISGREECE]

Yeah baby, that's what I'm talking about.
This is the REAL N900 successor.

[StefanL]

Both (N9 and N950) come with OMAP3.

More details:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4461/nokia-n9-n950-officially-announced-meego-running-atop-omap-3630

I am getting me one each :P; it's time my useless N8 (great camera - crap phone) went to a better home.

[ruskie]

My main question is... can I order one from Nokia without being in a secret club?

[cloudstrife1ph]

is the keyboard's design like the n900 and moto milestones or is it like the n97 / sidekick 4g that has angle gimmicks?

[AlMehdi]

The N950 are higher on my wish list than the N9 to speak the truth... but why are they always doing this! They should have gone with same harware as the N900 just upgraded them. The 1024 RAM is really nice from the 256 in the N900....

[9000]

My main question is... can I order one from Nokia without being in a secret club?

The first rule is you do not talk about N950....:D

IIRC Nokia did sell N900 developer version openly, quite expensive at time but at least it's pretty well packaged.

[qwazix]

Multitouch and resistive is a go. 89 dollar China tablets got it. I still believe it can be faked good enough through SW.

[volt]

Either way, at this place in time, we should be able to expect some hardware innovation. Pressure sensitive capacitive or hybrid, I don't care, but pressure sensitive somehow. Is ability to accurately measure pressure better than just touch? Yes. Is ability to use with gloves better than not? Yes. Is better better than more hyped? Yes.

Anyway, I'll shamelessly plug my view on how Nokia should've done it. Based on the E7 page, I imagined THIS configuration page:

http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=20946&stc=1&d=1308615083

[vi_]

Step 1. -- Join developer program.
Step 2. -- ???
Step 3. -- N950.

If you consider that the N9 Doesn't even have FCC approval yet and the N950 does, one could logically assume that the N950 will be released imminently in order to facilitate development for the forthcoming N9.

Now consider this, you have two different devices aimed at two different groups of people. N9 for people who complain about lack of flash 10 with loltweets on their faceblog. N950 for the hardcore amongst us who just want xterm. Don't release N950 as a consumer device and you won't need to provide consumer support.

Also, consider it has taken almost 2 years to get the N900 to where it is today. Both of these devices are going to suck on release.

[marktold]

I hold various domains for different purposes one of them is n950.com

I could route it to this thread :-) This would make this thread really epic having its own domain :-)

Markus

[mivoligo]

Do you guys think it'd be possible to flash N900 with N950 image from http://www.developer.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/db230178-aa63-4c73-ba7f-20930da13cad/Nokia_N950_OneClickFlashers.html

[vkthor]

No flash support, no FM transmitter, no widespread market... This isn't what I was hoping for...

[ossipena]

If you consider that the N9 Doesn't even have FCC approval yet and the N950 does, one could logically assume that the N950 will be released imminently in order to facilitate development for the forthcoming N9.

N9 may not be sold in the US..

[volt]

It's a shame though, I would rather have bought this one. As it looks now, I don't think I'm going to be a part of Maemo generation 6.

[JohnLF]

* N950 has a different physical camera module than N9.
* In the N950 the front facing camera is in top right corner and on N9
it is in the bottom right corner. The actual camera module is same.


Conflicting info here???

[ossipena]

Conflicting info here???

different cameras? front cam and back cam

[ruskie]

Conflicting info here???

One is for the normal the other for the front.

[sneeze]

I guess everyone has seen this?

"To aid the speedy development of apps for the Nokia N9 smartphone, Nokia has produced a limited number of developer phones, the Nokia N950 phone. This phone isn't available for purchase and can only be obtained through selected developer programs, such as Nokia Developer LaunchPad."

http://www.developer.nokia.com/Devices/MeeGo/

[blackjack4it]

Do you guys think it'd be possible to flash N900 with N950 image from http://www.developer.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/db230178-aa63-4c73-ba7f-20930da13cad/Nokia_N950_OneClickFlashers.html

I think that we can't flash the N950 OS image directly..we will need to "adapt" something like drivers for example :)

In my humple opinion, I think that Is possible with some tweaks..

[F2thaK]

the N9 is the successor to the N8, hence the similar names

[blackjack4it]

the N9 is the successor to the N8, hence the similar names

I think not, the N8 is Symbian while the N9 is Meego

[blackjack4it]

Do anyone know if there is a leak of the N9 or the N950 OS around the internet? We could open a Thread to begin a concept of porting..

[NIN101]

http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta/

[dansus]

N950 with Fremantle sounds pretty epic right now, plus the N9 with Hartman and i would have everything i need.

[Darkshine]

It's very disappointing that the N950 seems to be unbuyable, as it's a dream device for me. Oh well, grass is always greener an' all that..

[Frappacino]

It's very disappointing that the N950 seems to be unbuyable, as it's a dream device for me. Oh well, grass is always greener an' all that..

I am sure some will show up on ebay

be prepared to pay $$$ though

[ossipena]

I am sure some will show up on ebay

be prepared to pay $$$ though

only problem is that afaik 100% of all available units are leased...

[volt]

I think not, the N8 is Symbian while the N9 is Meego

Nokia has confirmed that its upcoming N8 smartphone will be the last N-series device to use the Symbian platform, with the Finnish firm basing future handsets in the series solely on MeeGo from then on.

I would say that the N8 and the N9 is meant to overlap, not succeed each other. As it is now, the N9 is more of a competitor to the N8 than the N900.

[Frappacino]

only problem is that afaik 100% of all available units are leased...

oh ? i havent read the stuff on the dev program yet...

so its not a give away ?

hah - just like Nokia.

Based on the number of N900 sold they should have a rough idea what the demand for N950 is.... could have made a small batch to sell to some of the more desperate here...

[marktold]

Starting this thread I was hopping for a N950 to be even better then the N900 since I have not found a phone that matches the N900 yet.

After just a couple of post I must read that the phone is for developers only and all my dreams a shattered.

Sad moment

Markus

PS: What would you think about a open letter to Nokia on my site www.n950.com where people would sign with name, country and a short comment begging Nokia to make a better N900 available to consumers.

[jnack95]

I really don't get it...what does this device have that the N900 doesn't ? 1Gz? Anything else?

[volt]

Starting this thread I was hopping for a N950 to be even better then the N900 since I have not found a phone that matches the N900 yet.

After just a couple of post I must read that the phone is for developers only and all my dreams a shattered.

Sad moment

Markus


I call that a 'DMC-FZ50' moment. Sometimes a product line ends at it's peak, not after it's been surpassed. Selling better devices does not mean better profit.

[volt]

I really don't get it...what does this device have that the N900 doesn't ? 1Gz? Anything else?

Official MMS support.

[Frappacino]

markus, like i said Nokia knows the approx demand for the N950 based on N900 selling numbers

they have chosen not to make it available, so a petition will do nothing

[LTman]

pssst this thread isnt epic



.......
unlees you are a longtime maemo/meego dev

[Daneel]

If i could just plug more ram on my N900 i would be set for the next 5 years.

[LTman]

@ daneel would extra swap on a class 10 mem card cut it for

[jhb]

I really don't get it...what does this device have that the N900 doesn't ? 1Gz? Anything else?

A compass! If only the n900 had that....

[Darkshine]

I really don't get it...what does this device have that the N900 doesn't ? 1Gz? Anything else?

Better keyboard, Harmattan, multi-touch, sexier construction..

[Daneel]

@ daneel would extra swap on a class 10 mem card cut it for

Already have it, it does help a bit but it does not really cut it.

[GameboyRMH]

Official MMS support.

And don't forget 1GB RAM, 8GP camera, 4-row keyboard...

The only disappointment is the capacitive touchscreen, I would have preferred resistive.

[shady]

its got a 12mpx sensor i think ... the english in the whitesheet is a bit rough. it was specifying that the FRONT sensor's were identical, not the back .. it only said the back was capable of taking 8mpx shots. nothing about it being ONLY 8mpx.

[Crogge]

Starting this thread I was hopping for a N950 to be even better then the N900 since I have not found a phone that matches the N900 yet.

After just a couple of post I must read that the phone is for developers only and all my dreams a shattered.

Sad moment

Markus

PS: What would you think about a open letter to Nokia on my site www.n950.com where people would sign with name, country and a short comment begging Nokia to make a better N900 available to consumers.

I like this idea, it shouldn't be a big problem for Nokia to produce for example a N900 version with at least 1GB RAM. If there are enough interested customers (1.000+) the chance is high that they accept this deal.

They could also make a version with 2GB RAM and call it the first smartphone with 2GB ram or something like that :P

[volt]

Resistive would have been preferable, obviously.

The front camera needs an upgrade much more than we need the extra megapixels.

[volt]

Ah, I really wish the wifi/bluetooth/etc chip on my N900 were user swapable :D It's the only thing not working, I think.

[sr00t]

I like this idea, it shouldn't be a big problem for Nokia to produce for example a N900 version with at least 1GB RAM. If there are enough interested customers (1.000+) the chance is high that they accept this deal.

They could also make a version with 2GB RAM and call it the first smartphone with 2GB ram or something like that :P

They won't do it only for 1000 people. Also, 2GB RAM is as unlikely as the producion of a consumer N950. But I like N9 anyways.

[AndyNokia232]

Wow, going by that huge list of "what the N950 doesn't have compared with the N9", it kinda made me think, y'know, Nokia *could've* done a Nokia and released this in Q4 2010 and it would have sunk like a brick. Maybe it is better of being a dev device. The N9 is like the N900's super sexy, slutty neice. The N950 looks like it's adopted, overweight brother.

[TheLongshot]

The N9 is like the N900's super sexy, slutty neice.

And just as impractical, IMO.

Personally, I'd rather have the overweight adopted brother.

[HtheB]

So there is no way to get one of those N950? :(

How do other people (developers) get it? O_o

[sjgadsby]

How do other people (developers) get it?

Commercial developers apply through developer.nokia.com. Community developers apply through the MeeGo Developer Device Program. qgil has a thread at forum.meego.com (http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3597) where he has described that process and is answering questions.

[shallimus]

And just as impractical, IMO.

Personally, I'd rather have the overweight adopted brother.
I think that simile is 10km west of off-topic and accelerating away, but as with niece/brother, it's very much a matter of taste and requirements. Sure, the brother can fix your computer or go fishing with you, but I can think of some things I'd rather have the niece for...

Cutting the dodgy simile right out: there is a worrying lack of understanding here (often from very intelligent people) that things like 'practical' and 'desirable' are all relative. Lots of people who would be miserable with an N900 may well end up buying and loving the N9.

[shmerl]

markus, like i said Nokia knows the approx demand for the N950 based on N900 selling numbers

they have chosen not to make it available, so a petition will do nothing

Stupid decision. What do they loose by making it buyable?

[ccarter]

Stupid decision. What do they loose by making it buyable?

They would loose nothing, but ADD a lot off common sense to their hustle.:confused:

[MartinK]

Commercial developers apply through developer.nokia.com. Community developers apply through the MeeGo Developer Device Program. qgil has a thread at forum.meego.com (http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3597) where he has described that process and is answering questions.
Thanks for the pointers, submission sent. :D

[Darkshine]

They would loose nothing, but ADD a lot off common sense to their hustle.:confused:

They would lose more money and time refining the hardware or in warranty repairs. They said 'no warranty' for a reason - probably the same reason they replaced it with a unibody device where nothing can be replaced (so not much can go wrong).

It's a sensible idea considering a qwerty keyboard doesn't sell a device (see sales of Android devices, as an example). It's just a disappointing one, considering I don't think I can bear using an eyes-free input device for my main phone.

[ccarter]

Wait.

I have this awesome idea for a NFC app -- how do I use a n950 to develop that if it has no NFC capabilities... ?

[madmaze]

Woot. I cant wait for the n950. I was getting worried the n900 would be my last Nokia phone.. but i guess now =)

[Verythrax]

Wait.

I have this awesome idea for a NFC app -- how do I use a n950 to develop that if it has no NFC capabilities... ?

You can simulate it with some sort of sticker. It was done at the MeeGo SF conf with a C7. Don't ask me how it works ;)

[ccarter]

They would lose more money and time refining the hardware or in warranty repairs. They said 'no warranty' for a reason - probably the same reason they replaced it with a unibody device where nothing can be replaced (so not much can go wrong).

It's a sensible idea considering a qwerty keyboard doesn't sell a device (see sales of Android devices, as an example). It's just a disappointing one, considering I don't think I can bear using an eyes-free input device for my main phone.

Not my image of how a phone manufacturer should operate, I would hope they would be confident in producing excellent hardware with a qwerty keyboard -- after all, they made the N900 and have the opportunity to learn from their mistakes to make the perfect device many of this forum have been desperate for..

They are very close with the n950, except the specs are not he same as the n9 and it loses some awesome features in the n900.

I think we are from different schools of thought, no biggies - if your point were to stand though, .. sell it without warranty (if legal)

[ccarter]

You can simulate it with some sort of sticker. It was done at the MeeGo SF conf with a C7. Don't ask me how it works ;)

Great, if anyone knows a little more about this please post a link (i will do some research and do the same)

[Verythrax]

Great, if anyone knows a little more about this please post a link (i will do some research and do the same)

Search for the video coverage of Engadget on the MeeGo SF conference hall. They visit the stand and the guy does the full demonstration.

NFC have some kind of one-sized mode of some sort, so some functionalities (if not all) works with an non-NFC-enabled hardware. Even the Google Wallet thing, that is NFC based, is supposed to work without it.

[Darkshine]

Wait.

I have this awesome idea for a NFC app -- how do I use a n950 to develop that if it has no NFC capabilities... ?

This is why I get the feeling the N950 is just being given out to clear stock of a device they canned.

[kevloral]

You can simulate it with some sort of sticker. It was done at the MeeGo SF conf with a C7. Don't ask me how it works ;)

The Nokia C7 does have NFC (albeit incomplete from a software point of view).


NFC have some kind of one-sized mode of some sort, so some functionalities (if not all) works with an non-NFC-enabled hardware. Even the Google Wallet thing, that is NFC based, is supposed to work without it.

Sorry again, but if a handset doesn't have NFC capabilities, it just doesn't. It can't be emulated unless you add additional hardware to it (a simple sticker wouldn't cut it).

By the way, NFC does have different modes of operation. A handset that supports NFC can act as a reader/writer, communicate in a peer2peer fashion with another NFC enabled device, or act as a card (card emulation mode). In all threee cases, the handset must have NFC hardware. You just can't emulate that without the needed hardware.

[Darkshine]

Not my image of how a phone manufacturer should operate, I would hope they would be confident in producing excellent hardware with a qwerty keyboard -- after all, they made the N900 and have the opportunity to learn from their mistakes to make the perfect device many of this forum have been desperate for..

They are very close with the n950, except the specs are not he same as the n9 and it loses some awesome features in the n900.

I think we are from different schools of thought, no biggies - if your point were to stand though, .. sell it without warranty (if legal)

It's easy - QWERTY keyboards add bulk and complexity, and people don't buy them anyway (in appreciable amounts). Out of those that do, a large minority would buy the same phone without a keyboard if they weren't given a choice (check out the droid forums for many examples)

A general N950 release would cannibalise sales of the N9, increase warranty repairs & returns, reduce the scale of production for each device and not sell very well. That's not counting the extra R&D costs, marketing, etc.

It's a shame, but it just doesn't make sense.

[Hotshot]

They are making HW KB phones smaller by the year so I seriously doubt that's the case. Simple Nokia wanna run the candybar store. Cause trust me my HTC G2 is a pretty slim HW KB phone my man. Bottom line is this as long as business users are around (me being one of them) than I'll need a full HW KB. I can see me now editing a doc on the go full touch screen. Oh the errors I just might make ;)

[shmerl]

Other manufactures do it anyway, marketing it as business devices. Well, didn't Nokia themselves release the E7? Something isn't right in the reasoning here.

[geneven]

I suspect that the statement that people don't buy devices with keyboards just isn't true unless you find a way to skew the statistcs.
I'm looking at a Samsung phone with TWO keyboards. Then I have a couple of Kindles with keyboards. I have an N810 and N900 with keyboards. A Palm Centro with a keyboard.

So, you are saying people hated these devices? I doubt it.

[Verythrax]

The answer is simpler than that: MeeGo is not the focus, so they don't want to focus too much energy on this. The MeeGo/Harmattan team is lucky to still exists, so Nokia is not betting too much cards on it.

On the current condition, they could scrap the idea entirely, or bet as much as possible in a single shot, to make it more polished, and easier to develop - so it's obvious with the design choices followed the mainstream crowd to be "safe" (closed battery, unibody, slate design, simple interface, etc)

[ccarter]

Ok so i assume there is an error on the spec. list then for the n950

How am I going to develop a NFC orinetated application without any NFC hardware on the n950 ?

Something here doesn't add up particularly well

[ccarter]

as a (very random) post -- I'd like green keys on a black n950

a little like thishttp://i1135.photobucket.com/albums/m635/giveabeep/nokian9iwantgreenkeys.jpg

[Darkshine]

They are making HW KB phones smaller by the year so I seriously doubt that's the case.

Your HTC Desire Z is much fatter and heavier than a standard Desire though.

I suspect that the statement that people don't buy devices with keyboards just isn't true unless you find a way to skew the statistcs.

Well done on your collection. I like proper keyboards too, but go to a phone retailer and ask how many people ask for a QWERTY keyboard (if any keyboard at all). This is why there are many android touch phones but only very few QWERTY phones. In fact, I'd suggest that HTC aren't in a rush to update the Desire Z because it's not a big seller, and they know it's a good way to shift a low-specced phone to the small hardcore that still want physical keyboards.

Other manufactures do it anyway, marketing it as business devices. Well, didn't Nokia themselves release the E7?

Yeh, and they're having a hard time shifting the E7. From my own experience, the majority of 'business' users want you to support their iPhones. There are a few Blackberry stalwarts, but I don't know many anymore.

[Hotshot]

I take it you never saw the phone in person. Compare to candybar phones its not that might fatter or heavier. I for one like a phone with weight on it so it feels solid that's just me. And guess you haven't seen HTC new line up a few HW KB phones are coming out and soon. My touch slide is one of them. I have pretty much every HTC winmo slider and they are getting smaller and smaller every year and by smaller I mean thinner. Hell the N950 isn't too much thicker than the N9 so the whole thicker and heavier is a mute point IMO.

[mscion]

I think Nokia got it backwards. The N9 should be given to developers to create applications for everyday consumers. The n950 should be marketed to smart consumers that would take advantage of the hw keyboard and see it as a real plus!

[Daneel]

Apple is also tinkering with the idea of a hardware keyboard, apparently, many of their users requested this feature.

[RiD]

I want an i7Mobile 16-cores @ 5.0Ghz, a Quad-SLI of GTX590Mobile's, 32GB of DDR6 RAM @ 3000Mhz, a freaking huge QWERTY keyboard and a 10" Full HD LED screen on it. It will still need to be pocketable.

But I guess we'd need a whole nuclear station to power it...

So,
All I ask is a revised N900 with a "better" on everything, specially battery.

[olighak]

Lol, well I´m going to make a few mentions of the desire for the N950 on conversations.nokia.com and twitter feeds. Make some noise about how awesome it would be to also get the N950 released :)

http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/06/21/introducing-the-nokia-n9-all-it-takes-is-a-swipe/

Is it going to work? Probably not a chance in hell.
Is it worth it? Absolutely!

[mece]

there will be N9 developer programs once the phone is produced in greater numbers. nfc implementation will have to wait or use simulation until then.

N950 is available now, that's why it's up for developer programs.

[zlatokosi]

It's easy - QWERTY keyboards add bulk and complexity, and people don't buy them anyway (in appreciable amounts). Out of those that do, a large minority would buy the same phone without a keyboard if they weren't given a choice (check out the droid forums for many examples)

A general N950 release would cannibalise sales of the N9, increase warranty repairs & returns, reduce the scale of production for each device and not sell very well. That's not counting the extra R&D costs, marketing, etc.

It's a shame, but it just doesn't make sense.

Cmmon... Why even sell phones then? It's just too risky.... Keep the software patents, fire everyone, and no worries at all. Revenue guaranteed.

But seriously, even though there might be a hint of truth in what you said, I don't buy that as the main argument. It's not like Nokia produce a phone and then go to a meeting and say, "You know, maybe this will cannibalise the N9, scratch it off our release list."

Nokia have produced a lot of quality QWERTY phones, and if they wanted (or had any interest) to release a good qwerty N9 they could have done it.

At least they could have offered it for sale with a 10day warranty or something. They would have made a few bucks and a lot less disappointed fans.

[Darkshine]

But seriously, even though there might be a hint of truth in what you said, I don't buy that as the main argument. It's not like Nokia produce a phone and then go to a meeting and say, "You know, maybe this will cannibalise the N9, scratch it off our release list."

Exactly this happens all the time, in companies all around the world. And Nokia are finally learning to do it too - release less phones, make them more focused, stop trying to cram everything into it. The N950 is one of those casualties.

I can't think of a better argument for why a phone is being produced and sold in small quantities just for developers - it would've made more sense to send out a stripped-back N9 (or hell, just a normal N9 on a lease). It's not like they're gonna be writing code right there on the thumb-board.

[quipper8]

what is this device at 3:24? some protoype I guess, but keyboard looks like imagined n950

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFAueZefAxk

[Darkshine]

what is this device at 3:24? some protoype I guess, but keyboard looks like imagined n950

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFAueZefAxk

N950 with a cover :)

[quipper8]

video of n950

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U8jH_apD2k

[NvyUs]

video of n950

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U8jH_apD2k

Colours on the Screen look inferior to the N9, n9 looks so much deeper and brighter and less reflection.

[quipper8]

Colours on the Screen look inferior to the N9, n9 looks so much deeper and brighter and less reflection.

TFT LCD vs AMOLED

to be expected

[dragly]

Colours on the Screen look inferior to the N9, n9 looks so much deeper and brighter and less reflection.

I'm wondering if it could be the brightness settings in addition to AMOLED vs TFT, but I hope increasing the brightness on the TFT won't waste too much battery.

[Dragoss91]

video of n950

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6U8jH_apD2k

This was supposed to be N9 !!! Not that shiny dildo without HWKB . :mad:

[cloudstrife1ph]

dang! i want this phone. would it be really that hard for nokia to release it for consumers? too bad i hate the n97 / sidekick 4g sliding mechanism...

[quipper8]

in addition to the video mobilenet.cz has a series of pics as well

http://mobilenet.cz/clanky/bajna-nokia-n950-v-praze-exkluzivni-fotografie-video-a-dojmy-7222

[MartinK]

People from Openmobility (http://www.openmobility.cz/)were on the unveiling - and there should also be an article + pics tomorrow. :)

[qwazix]

I really don't get it...what does this device have that the N900 doesn't ? 1Gz? Anything else?

54px

blah blah too short

[Bazza]

What they may do is release the N9 so the die hard people with rush out and buy it then the 1st signs of sales drying up months later release the N950 to get sales going again.

I mean if the phone/tablets are close spec wise, then putting the main board inside a new case with hardware keyboard and a slightly bigger screen and unlock the software so you can develop on it would push sales up again.

[qwazix]

Most people are indifferent of a HWKB so a thinner device is more appealing to them. I remember I was. But this was before my first hwkb phone. After that you never go back. And I have seen very few hwkb owners willing to go back. Some company should evangelize the hwkb+ts and capitalize on it. Touch and type is a good, very good idea, I've been saying it for years. Now somebody should make a kb flagship without a vkb counterpart, and give you other reasons to buy it. Next time you will ask for kb, and before the competitors know it, that somebody will sell you their new kb device.

[quipper8]

a few things I noticed in the n950 video:

icons in app launcher do not re-orient to landscape mode

there is a terminal app there

[zlatokosi]

Exactly this happens all the time, in companies all around the world. And Nokia are finally learning to do it too - release less phones, make them more focused, stop trying to cram everything into it. The N950 is one of those casualties.

I can't think of a better argument for why a phone is being produced and sold in small quantities just for developers - it would've made more sense to send out a stripped-back N9 (or hell, just a normal N9 on a lease). It's not like they're gonna be writing code right there on the thumb-board.

I respectfully disagree. I know products get canceled all the time, but my main point was that cannibalism of the N9 had almost nothing to do with it, imo.

Not in step 5 of 5; not at Nokia.

Defective production, maybe. PR move, maybe. Elop move, maybe. Cannibalism of N9, I don't believe so.

You don't produce 90,000+ devices (retail price ~$600+) and can them as an afterthought. Not at that stage for that reason.

And the fact they aren't selling them to anyone period also raises eyebrows.

[Eduardo]

N950 Black Developer edition:

s3.gizmovil.com/files/2011/06/Nokia-N950.jpg

It is horrible to know that the n950 is only available for developers. Omg... Look at the pic. If Jesus were alive, he would use that phone!.

Elop should let people buy the N950!!!!!

s3.gizmovil.com/files/2011/06/Nokia-N950.jpg

[Darkshine]

Not in step 5 of 5; not at Nokia.

But it wasn't the final step - they're pre-production phones built for showing off and developing on. They still had a boatload of work to do before firing up the factories for a full production batch.

Cannibalism of N9, I don't believe so.

If you have the choice of selling 95 000 copies of a newspaper, or 100 000 copies of two similar newspapers split roughly evenly, what are you gonna do? Smart companies don't cannibalise sales of their own devices.

You don't produce 90,000+ devices

Where did you get that figure from, out of interest?

And the fact they aren't selling them to anyone period also raises eyebrows.

Not really - Nokia don't want their name on a phone they're not willing to back with a Warranty.

[Daneel]

I even prefer the design of the N950.

[shallimus]

I really want the chance to test typing on the N9. Of course I love my N900 hwkb, but hey, maybe it's not so bad...?

[Frappacino]

I really want the chance to test typing on the N9. Of course I love my N900 hwkb, but hey, maybe it's not so bad...?

but you lose SO MUCH screen real estate using a screen kb.

I type out ALOT of long emails on my N900, and I cannot imagine losing so much screen estate in landscape mode for the hwkb. You will have so little room for text when you type out long emails.

the tactile sensation also allows me to type fast with fewer mistakes - my attempts on a software kb have been far slower.

i need the kb for productivity - guess I will have to go droid.

[Mike Fila]

Did anyone notice this

Device Type: Handset
Units available: 250
Device terms: Loan
Provider: Nokia

I dont think that the n950 is for sale it says you need to be a community developer to get one

http://nokia-n900.com/nokia-n9-released-devkit-n950/

Further, as N950, including its device software, is not a commercial
device, the quality and/feature set of N950 is of beta quality and comes
without any warranty or support whatsoever.

From the release notes

http://www.developer.nokia.com/info/sw.nokia.com/id/3744886f-69c1-4544-8ad3-72b352b4a832/Nokia_N950_OneClickFlashers_Release_Notes.html

[9000]

In the past I just needed to register with my home postal address (in Hong Kong) and Nokia (Finland) would send me full CD of Symbian SDK, Communicator emulator, with an offer to buy developer version of Communicator, periodically when there's update. :)

Anyone knows how to become a N950 developer now? Is first born sacrificing required? :D

[Frappacino]

Go to Forum.meego.com

Qgil there has details and a thread for questions

i think basically you have to submit your project or what not, and if they think you are cool enough you get 1

and its a loaner too - its not really yours - i.e. they are only loaning it to you

In the past I just needed to register with my home postal address (in Hong Kong) and Nokia (Finland) would send me full CD of Symbian SDK, Communicator emulator, with an offer to buy developer version of Communicator, periodically when there's update. :)

Anyone knows how to become a N950 developer now? Is first born sacrificing required? :D

[romanianusa]

Honestly, it looks cheap...i am not impressed. When it slide the keyboard out, it lifted the screen at a ridiculous angle. The keys look like toys to me. Another thing is, it's got NO FM transmitter...which is VERY important to me!! I'll pass...i think my N900 is still better HONESTLY cuz it got features i want. Sure it's more powerful but c'mon, my N900 can overclocked to 1GHz lol. FM transmitter is the real deal....very important.

[geneven]

Someone in today's main thread guarantees us that the lack of an fm transmitter is not because of hardware but because the code to make it work hasn't been put together yet. I believed him.

[ossipena]

oh ? i havent read the stuff on the dev program yet...

so its not a give away ?

hah - just like Nokia.

Based on the number of N900 sold they should have a rough idea what the demand for N950 is.... could have made a small batch to sell to some of the more desperate here...
sorry, wrong word. correct word is lended and one must return the unit after lend perioid is over.

e: if I remember correctly, there were rumours concerning the hinge mechanism. it wouldn't make sense to sell small amount of units that can break down from the hinge, responsibilities would probably be much bigger than what they get when selling the devices.

[excelar8]

could the title of this thread be any more original?

[Frappacino]

Yea i read it on meego forums, its only a lend.

Understand about the hinge and numbers - not worth the trouble for them.

Wonder how many here WILL purchase it without warranty on ebay if Nokia did not require these devices to be returned ?

oh well - no choice but droid for me since i need a hwkb

sorry, wrong word. correct word is lended and one must return the unit after lend perioid is over.

e: if I remember correctly, there were rumours concerning the hinge mechanism. it wouldn't make sense to sell small amount of units that can break down from the hinge, responsibilities would probably be much bigger than what they get when selling the devices.

[zlatokosi]

>But it wasn't the final step - they're pre-production phones built for showing off and developing on. They still had a boatload of work to do before firing up the factories for a full production batch.

The MeeGo device was step 5 of 5 of a plan that's been going on for at least 5 years, if not more. And if the numbers are true, 92,000 pre-production units? Maybe, but that seems a bit high.

>If you have the choice of selling 95 000 copies of a newspaper, or 100 000 copies of two similar newspapers split roughly evenly, what are you gonna do? Smart companies don't cannibalise sales of their own devices.

Look at previous Nokia releases. Kbd vs. no kbd, heck even the names are almost the same C6 vs. C6-01 (released a few months apart), or E7 vs. C7 (let's not get carried away with precise examples, this is for illustration purposes). Anyways, my point is this kind of kbd. vs. non-kbd phone at Nokia is quite standard.

>Where did you get that figure from, out of interest?

From the board and the internet. Yeah, I know....

>Not really - Nokia don't want their name on a phone they're not willing to back with a Warranty.[/QUOTE]

I Agree. But that has nothing to do with cannibalism.

[jotun]

well the great Nokia N950 is alive, and looks usable. but as you already know - just developers edition......I´d like to have one :-)
check this out....

http://mobilenet.cz/clanky/bajna-nokia-n950-v-praze-exkluzivni-fotografie-video-a-dojmy-7222

[zwer]

There's also another N950 hands-on: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AAS97vlOPI

[Dragoss91]

N950 = fkin awesome uber phone
N9 = gay

:D

[mscion]

Yea i read it on meego forums, its only a lend.

Understand about the hinge and numbers - not worth the trouble for them.

Wonder how many here WILL purchase it without warranty on ebay if Nokia did not require these devices to be returned ?

oh well - no choice but droid for me since i need a hwkb

I'd still take my chances and buy the n950 without warranty and flaky hinge. I have plenty of duct tape so no problem if the hinge breaks...

[olighak]

Yea i read it on meego forums, its only a lend.

Understand about the hinge and numbers - not worth the trouble for them.

Wonder how many here WILL purchase it without warranty on ebay if Nokia did not require these devices to be returned ?

oh well - no choice but droid for me since i need a hwkb

Actually, they can´t sell it without giving at least a 2 year guarantee in Europe, or 1 year in US.

In the EU if you sell a new product you need to fulfill a two year warranty, whether or not you claim not to provide it.

But they could charge you for access to Nokia launchpad and then give it to you, or lend with with a "wink, wink, nod nod" expectation of you never returning it. Maybe that´s the plan.

[Darkshine]

But they could charge you for access to Nokia launchpad and then give it to you, or lend with with a "wink, wink, nod nod" expectation of you never returning it. Maybe that´s the plan.

Yeh, I can't imagine nokia wanting it back ;)

[Darkshine]

The MeeGo device was step 5 of 5 of a plan that's been going on for at least 5 years, if not more. And if the numbers are true, 92,000 pre-production units? Maybe, but that seems a bit high.

That was just a quote from a guy that doesn't even work for Nokia anymore - and I call bullcrap on that 92 000 figure. Anyway, it doesn't discount the fact that the phone wasn't ready for production and would've cost money to get ready.

Look at previous Nokia releases. [..]. Anyways, my point is this kind of kbd. vs. non-kbd phone at Nokia is quite standard.

Yeh, losing market share at Nokia is quite standard too ;) You can't say something is a good idea just because they've done it before.

[ddwwf1]

not sure if this has already been posted

http://youtu.be/6U8jH_apD2k

[Hotshot]

Come on man! Wish people stop with the hinges story. The E7 said to have a hinge problem and they delayed release til they fixed it. So the same could have been done for the N950. As anybody with eyes can see there is a demand for a HW KB, Nokia as always is just slow to "supply". They could have fixed the problem and added to there profit but they didn't. So hey that's on them #shrugs

[juniorbsd]

it supposed to runs meego? not maemo?
can i have a shell access with apt-get?

what about that microsoft thing? it would sux a n950 running
windows mobile

[NokiaRocks]

it supposed to runs meego? not maemo?
can i have a shell access with apt-get?

what about that microsoft thing? it would sux a n950 running
windows mobile

It runs Maemo 6/Harmattan, the same OS as the N9.

[erendorn]

it supposed to runs meego? not maemo?
can i have a shell access with apt-get?

what about that microsoft thing? it would sux a n950 running
windows mobile

It runs the exact same OS as the N9. See for yourself on Nokia developper website.

[Verythrax]

Several promo pics of the dev device:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/nokia-n950-pictures-a-gallerys-worth-of-meego-to-tell-the-stor/

[MartinK]

So the Openmobility article is finally out:
http://www.openmobility.cz/reportaze/predstaveni-nokia-n9-s-meego/
The text is all in Czech, but there are some nice pictures like:

N950 vs N900 + mugen battery
N9 and N950 side by side
N9 About screen
sd/sim slot details
moving launcher icons
various apps (battery status, help, weather)

[daperl]

Several promo pics of the dev device:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/nokia-n950-pictures-a-gallerys-worth-of-meego-to-tell-the-stor/

Okay, now I want. Nokia owns me.

[zlatokosi]

Several promo pics of the dev device:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/nokia-n950-pictures-a-gallerys-worth-of-meego-to-tell-the-stor/

Oh yes, Engadget, start a drool session and MAKE Nokia release it. /wishfullthinking

[olighak]

Such a beautiful device!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/nokia-n950-pictures-a-gallerys-worth-of-meego-to-tell-the-stor/

[Dave999]

This thread is not EPIC yet. Just so you know.

...and yeah I would love to put my hands on the n950.

[madstunt]

so beautiful :) But only black? what the heck? we saw some grey/silver ones quite a lot of times not just on the two set of very early leaked images

[chenliangchen]

I'll be happy to pay £500 to get it...

[late666]

Nooooo! Why is it still chunky?

When will they day come when we have thin keyboard technology? :'(

Think I'll pass on this one..

[quipper8]

Nooooo! Why is it still chunky?

When will they day come when we have thin keyboard technology? :'(

Think I'll pass on this one..

it is a dev device. Devs primary concern is not usually aesthetics.

And of course nokia knows how, the e7 has the best keyboard out there and it is quite then

[erendorn]

Nooooo! Why is it still chunky?

When will they day come when we have thin keyboard technology? :'(

Think I'll pass on this one..

Not so chunky (http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/nokia-n950-pictures-a-gallerys-worth-of-meego-to-tell-the-stor/), but if it isn't sold, you'll still have to pass on it..

[marktold]

There still is hope

http://www.computerbase.de/news/consumer-electronics/kommunikation/smartphones/2011/juni/nokia-praesentiert-n9-und-n950/

QUOTE (German)

Das N950 wird dem finnischen Hersteller zufolge ohne Garantie und Support verkauft, wann und zu welchen Preis ist noch unbekannt.
UNQUOTE

This article tells that the N950 would be sold but without warrenty and support.

So maybe we can get one anyhow. Still thinking about a petiton on my domain N950

Markus

[rado3105]

http://www.youtube.com/user/mobilenetcz#p/u/1/6U8jH_apD2k

looks great

[Armstrong Dicksmasher]

I'll be digging ebay for this once it's out.
Hopefully I'll find a developer who want to dump his N950.

[Drexxx]

http://www.youtube.com/user/mobilenetcz#p/u/1/6U8jH_apD2k

looks great
Look at 1:53. What is that slot? It looks like a slot uSD
I know uSD is not in the specifications but ... what is it?

[Verythrax]

Look at 1:53. What is that slot? It looks like a slot uSD
I know uSD is not in the specifications but ... what is it?

MicroSim slot. It doesn't have a cover like the N9, as it seems.

[momcilo]

For those who has not seen it. WF7 on N9-alike device

http://www.technet.hu/telefon/20110624/exkluziv_video_elop_bemutatja_az_elso_windowsos_no kiat/

[daperl]

MicroSim slot. It doesn't have a cover like the N9, as it seems.

Are you sure that's micro? These two* pictures lead me to* believe it's full size.

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/08/10x0819fsn97c2101.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/06/nokia-95024.jpg

And this one too*:

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/08/10x0819fsn97c2114.jpg

*All versions of toō used for your reading pleasure.

[Verythrax]

haha, no idea. I just said micro instead because I was thinking that it would follow the N9 trend ;)

EDIT: those pictures are from the proto anyway, so I can't be sure - but isn't the cover slit shown too small for a full sized SIM?

[lma]

Are you sure that's micro? These two* pictures lead me to* believe it's full size.


It's full size, confirmed (http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?p=23124&postcount=5) by qgil in the other place.

[madstunt]

So the FCC will reveal today their N950 related stuff ? :)

[shady]

dude, its already out!

manual: https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1462100
internal: https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1462100
external: https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=1462100

12MPx ... like was said.

[olympus]

says: You are not authorized to access this page.

[shady]

use a different browser, it doesnt work in chrome for me, says the same thing but i used FF

[dragly]

Just got my hands on an N950. The SIM card slot is full size (or mini, the full, credit card size cards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subscriber_Identity_Module) are obviously not used). The bottom right hand side "slot" is the audio speaker AFAIK. So there's only mono, no stereo as on the N900.

I'm going to play around with it now, so just ask if you are curious about anything and I'll try to answer as good as I can. But I can't promise I have the answer to all details just because I have the device here :) And I'm not working for Nokia, so I have no knowledge of internal details.

What I can tell you from the first minutes of experience is that everything synced fine over bluetooth with the N8 (which again was synced with the N900), except the calendar.

N950 is longer than the N900, and a bit wider, but thinner. It's about as thick as the N900's body without the screen. Compared to the N8 it is almost the same size, but a bit longer. It's all extra screen real estate, so I'm happy about that :)

The screen is not convex as on the N9, but the swipe from the edge still works good.

[jainkjohn]

R.I.P n9.....

[shady]

@dragly, where did you get yours from so early?

[dragly]

@dragly, where did you get yours from so early?

From Nokia. Seems they are sending them out to developers pretty fast. I guess they want apps for N9 out in good time before it starts shipping.

[mscion]

Just got my hands on an N950. The SIM card slot is full size (or mini, the full, credit card size cards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subscriber_Identity_Module) are obviously not used). The bottom right hand side "slot" is the audio speaker AFAIK. So there's only mono, no stereo as on the N900.

I'm going to play around with it now, so just ask if you are curious about anything and I'll try to answer as good as I can. But I can't promise I have the answer to all details just because I have the device here :) And I'm not working for Nokia, so I have no knowledge of internal details.

What I can tell you from the first minutes of experience is that everything synced fine over bluetooth with the N8 (which again was synced with the N900), except the calendar.

N950 is longer than the N900, and a bit wider, but thinner. It's about as thick as the N900's body without the screen. Compared to the N8 it is almost the same size, but a bit longer. It's all extra screen real estate, so I'm happy about that :)

The screen is not convex as on the N9, but the swipe from the edge still works good.

Thanks for taking questions! In some videos of the N950 it does not seem to make a good transition from portrait to landscape. Is that still the case? (i.e. the orientation and postion of icons do not change.) Also, any comments about the browser?

[shady]

i take it you have a longstanding history then, i am just starting out. im using the test templates in qt creator now, im writing an app for reddit. we shall see how successful i am. hopefully it will be better than the one we currently have.

[abubakar]

Somebody please tell me, If i have a N9, I can use it as a dev device just as effectively as a N950 right?

Oh and yes, for what its worth: NOKIA, I will like to *spend* money on a N950, so PLZ make it available for purchase. I dont care at all about it being in a beta state and it comes without a warranty. Thanks!

[olympus]

use a different browser, it doesnt work in chrome for me, says the same thing but i used FF

tried chrome, FF and IE9, all say the same thing.

[olympus]

Dragly, does the n950 have a hdmi port?

[Deaconclgi]

tried chrome, FF and IE9, all say the same thing.

N950 FCC link:

https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/reports/ViewExhibitReport.cfm?mode=Exhibits&RequestTimeout=500&calledFromFrame=N&application_id=233837&fcc_id=%27LJPRM-680

[shady]

heres a google docs:

internal: https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1tvy48rmVi3a7WQDJnoDgoQ75DDlFRqupSeuWgsm08p 4

external: https://docs.google.com/document/pub?id=1jglmV3wTmf0B6TdzC3-IT4xGRGKX4NODidgEN2nkwA0

[dragly]

Hmm... Seems I've been unlucky. I got a few duplicates after the sync, so I decided to clear the device to start off fresh. That sadly bricked it, and flashing it ends with the following error after a successful "erase", but unsuccessful copying of images:
ERROR: SU_GET_UPDATE_STATUS_REQ terminated with error code 10: Security failure
So I guess I'll have to wait before I can test more. :(

To the questions that I had time to test: There is no landscape mode in the home screens, but most applications seem to have it implemented. The transition is flawless and quick.

The N950 does not seem to have a HDMI-port, only the 3.5mm jack which I suppose also delivers TV-out, although I haven't tested.

Edit: If someone else should encounter the same error, it seems like this is because the firmware version available online is older than the one shipped with the device. A downgrade is for some reason not allowed.

[morbid]

A hwkb phone with no home screen support for landscape? That's just weird. It's like forcing someone to watch their widescreen tv on its side.... it's not the natural orientation.

[olighak]

Hmm... Seems I've been unlucky. I got a few duplicates after the sync, so I decided to clear the device to start off fresh. That sadly bricked it, and flashing it ends with the following error after a successful "erase", but unsuccessful copying of images:

So I guess I'll have to wait before I can test more. :(

To the questions that I had time to test: There is no landscape mode in the home screens, but most applications seem to have it implemented. The transition is flawless and quick.

The N950 does not seem to have a HDMI-port, only the 3.5mm jack which I suppose also delivers TV-out, although I haven't tested.

Edit: If someone else should encounter the same error, it seems like this is because the firmware version available online is older than the one shipped with the device. A downgrade is for some reason not allowed.

Downgrades were not really allowed on the N900 either. They had a habit of disabling something, like the PR1.2 update on the N900 that disabled the cellular firmware if you tried to downgrade to PR1.1.

[olighak]

A hwkb phone with no home screen support for landscape? That's just weird. It's like forcing someone to watch their widescreen tv on its side.... it's not the natural orientation.

That is kind of funny though, the N900 home screen can´t be rotated from landscape. It´s next generation cousins the N9 and the N950 can´t rotate from portrait.

[dragly]

Downgrades were not really allowed on the N900 either. They had a habit of disabling something, like the PR1.2 update on the N900 that disabled the cellular firmware if you tried to downgrade to PR1.1.

In a way it makes sense that downgrades are disabled if they change other firmware parts than previous ones did. I.e. that the changes are not reverted. It's just a shame that the newest firmware is not available online when it is already on the device.

I'll be patient, though. I guess the newest version will be available in a few days. I'll just play with the hinge mechanism in the meantime.

[raverpol]

To help prepare for the publishing of apps for the Nokia N9 smartphone, a limited number of developer kits have been produced using the Nokia N950 phone. This phone has a pre-release version of software for the Nokia N9 and some minor hardware differences, for example the Nokia N950 doesn’t provide NFC features. The Nokia N950 Developer Kit is available to qualifying Nokia Developer Launchpad members who have published apps to Ovi Store, or have started to develop their apps using Qt. If you wish to obtain one of these kits, please send your request to: nokia.developer.launchpad@nokia.com. The deadline for submitting requests is 31 July 2011.

[Dragoss91]

Poor n950 fans , they still believe it will get released on market .

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n950-reviews-3997.php

[Goliath27]

Poor n950 fans , they still believe it will get released on market .

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n950-reviews-3997.php

So how can we get our hands on one if it isn't? Do we have to wait for someone to post it on ebay?

I really want to hold out for an N950 but I don't mean to be holding my breath on it.

[frostbyte]

So how can we get our hands on one if it isn't? Do we have to wait for someone to post it on ebay?

I really want to hold out for an N950 but I don't mean to be holding my breath on it.


Don't.

Ain't gonna happen...

... Unless you qualify as a Nokia Developer (Nokia decides whether your prior applications/contributions suffice and/or your apps are worthy to developed on the N950). In short, if you are wondering if you should wait for one popping up on ebay, you're not "it". Buy the N9 (if you are so inclined) and after 2 years you might have something to upgrade to, maybe even w/ hwkb - knowing Nokia, you probably won't.

[Goliath27]

Don't.

Ain't gonna happen...

... Unless you qualify as a Nokia Developer (Nokia decides whether your prior applications/contributions suffice and/or your apps are worthy to developed on the N950). In short, if you are wondering if you should wait for one popping up on ebay, you're not "it". Buy the N9 (if you are so inclined) and after 2 years you might have something to upgrade to, maybe even w/ hwkb - knowing Nokia, you probably won't.

I hate you

[frostbyte]

That's a bit odd, since I love myself.

[chucknorris]

has the n950 appeared on the device distribution page of the community lauchpad (nokia developer) site?????

i cant find where to apply for this n950!!

[frostbyte]

deadline for the application was today, june 28th :(

[chucknorris]

thats the deadline for the meego site rite?? only 250 handsets are available from the meego community. I havent seen any on nokia developer site!

[qwertqwert]

SO Nokia + harmattan is over(Elop said N9/N950 are the last). Now my only hope remains with LG. Hope they release some consumer clone of N950. PLEAASE be hurry LG please :D

[madstunt]

N950 review in thai
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr3laUSK-FI

[hoho]

One way to get yourself n950 is to be super-lucky like me :)
Hello,

Thanks again for giving your feedback on the Qt SDK!

I have the great pleasure to say that you are one of the lucky winners who
will receive a Nokia N950 device. Congratulations!I got that mail a couple of days ago, hopefully I get the device soon.

[shady]

from whom, do you have a project page?

[hoho]

The mail was sent by a senior product manager in Nokia and no, I don't have any specific projects planned at the moment (though I have a ton of ideas I'd love to implement one day). I simply took part in a QT developer survey a few months ago and apprently they will send some phones out to some lucky people that took part in that survey.

[marrat]

The mail was sent by a senior product manager in Nokia and no, I don't have any specific projects planned at the moment (though I have a ton of ideas I'd love to implement one day). I simply took part in a QT developer survey a few months ago and apprently they will send some phones out to some lucky people that took part in that survey.

I also took part in that survey... Though, no prize for me...

[mmlado]

I also took part in that survey... Though, no prize for me...

I got my prize, for that survey. The promised 250 points on the developer network. :)
hoho had more luck. congratz

[JD2010]

Hi As I can see a lot of people would like to have the N950 avalaible to the public for sale. We could tel Nokia by signing a petition. Is someone willing to help me write what we should put on the petition


http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=74395&page=3

[Brock]

the chosen

http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Community_device_program/Nokia

[xerxes2]

I'd think you can forget about the N950 as it's not likely to get on the market. Why don't you start a new thread called "The epic N960 anticipation thread" and continue from there? If the N9 is a massive success i'd think that Nokia might make more Meego devices with and without hwkb. The N950 seems to be a lost cause though.

[Hotshot]

As much as I want this phone and leave android to come back to a true linux base OS I doubt I get one. So now I got my eyes set on another phone, android of course the HTC doubleshot aka Tmobile Mytouch 4G Slide which has some nice specs and boast to have a better cam than the N9. So when Tmobile drops that I'll wait to see it in store before I make the jump. This HTC G2 is okay just want a better spec phone.

[RogueElement]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr3laUSK-FI&feature=player_embedded

Is this old news this video. It says it is N950?

No keyboard though. ????