Internet Communications Software Update!

[zerojay]

Just announced on maemo-developers... http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-July/010899.html

http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/

Looks like the start of some VERY nice stuff coming to 2007OS.. :D

If only I could install it... argh.

[nedim]

It seems like N800 is getting SIP support and bunch of other improvements to the stack.

[zerojay]

These improvements are meant for Maemo 4.0 so this stuff is apparently very beta. It would be great to test it all out so that when it finally is a part of the official Nokia firmware, it will be nicely bugtested already.

[anidel]

I just tried it. Installed with no problem and configured with my two SIP accounts.
Tried some outgoing call and also incoming calls and it worked with no issues at all.
The UI needs improvement, but I am confident it'll happen by the time it'll be released for the upcoming IT firmware update.

I still have to try video between me and another n800 user.

[zerojay]

How were you able to get around the missing evolution-data-server dependancy?

[maxilogan]

I still have to try video between me and another n800 user.

What's supposed to change now in video call in respect to the actual application?

[anidel]

How were you able to get around the missing evolution-data-server dependancy?

You are the one who wrote about this on the mailing list ?
I had no problem at all. Just went on the garage webpage with the tablet, clicked on the .install link and then went to the extras menu to complete the installation.
Nothing more than following the instructions on the website.

[anidel]

What's supposed to change now in video call in respect to the actual application?

Right know video calls are possible only via gTalk.
With this beta you can make video calls also with whatever SIP account you have.

Of course it won't work between SIP and gTalk users, but only SIP-SIP or gTalk-gTalk.

[zerojay]

You are the one who wrote about this on the mailing list ?
I had no problem at all. Just went on the garage webpage with the tablet, clicked on the .install link and then went to the extras menu to complete the installation.
Nothing more than following the instructions on the website.

Nope, I'm not the one that was on the mailing list.

[anidel]

Nope, I'm not the one that was on the mailing list.

Yeah I checked, it was another person. So you are not alone with this issue.
I can't give you any help, I am sorry. I don't know if I had that package already installed from some other program...

[Karel Jansens]

Quick question: Is Meamo 4.0 intended for the N800? Or for -- yet another -- new model NIT?

[anidel]

Quick question: Is Meamo 4.0 intended for the N800? Or for -- yet another -- new model NIT?

You are asking too much to us. I think it'll be for the n800.

[zerojay]

Quick question: Is Meamo 4.0 intended for the N800? Or for -- yet another -- new model NIT?

Appears to be for the N800.

[ah.sima]

evolution-data-server 1.4.2.1.r554-3 dependancy error. can not install.

[zerojay]

The screwed up thing is that THAT's the exact same version already installed on the tablet! (Checked with red pill mode.)

[yerga]

It can be that other versions are interferencing in the installation. Try only with the maemo repository and the repository that adds rtcomm. Deactivate other repositories.

I have it installed, and it works perfectly with voipbuster/voipstunt, etc.
Free landline calls in the Internet Tablets (to some countries).

Cheers.

[zerojay]

Still didn't work. Oh well.

[ah.sima]

the required evolution-data-server version is the same version as in thenew firmware, but rtcomm say appliaction (eds 1.4.2.1.r554-3) is missing and can not install.

have install 1.4.2.1.r554-3 version from http://maemo.o-hand.com/packages/bora/, it is same. can not install. (using red pill)

uninstall date, contact and task application of open-hand, can not install.

mask all other repository, can not install.

anybody can help?

[zerojay]

I reflashed my tablet with the latest firmware (which is what was already on the tablet originally) and did not restore my backup. I immediately installed it and it appears to now be working.

[zerojay]

Oh yes... this new change is definitely the right way to go for Nokia. Finally, I can see people's display pictures and status messages from MSN through Jabber. The new contacts/new chat/new internet call stuff is much better in terms of UI as well.

The Speed Contacts home plugin looks really cool now with the added display pictures/user icons and status messages.

I was able to use my Gizmo number with the new SIP stuff... no more running the Gizmo client for me! ;)

[Milhouse]

Quim just posted this (http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail//maemo-developers/2007-July/010908.html) response to the maemo developers mailing list concerning the evolution data server package problem:


Hi, I just talked to Naba, currently offline. This issue is known and
confirmed now. It is caused by a last minute change. We can't fix it
tonight but we hope to fix it tomorrow morning asap.

As you see this is really software under development, fresh meat
released publicly to be shared with other developers. Please be cautious
when recommending this update to end users because this is not even a
beta release as Nokia understands beta releases (of end user products).

Thanks for your understanding. Sorry for this bug, but at least you got
the news today. More news to come soon (and if you happen to be in
GUADEC come and meet the developers).

[zerojay]

Other changes I have noticed... much bigger emoticons in the emoticon selection window making them much easier to pick with your finger or thumb. Added user names/status messages/display pictures on the left side of the screen in chat windows.

I'm loving this almost as much as I am loving the recent firmware upgrade.

[aflegg]

Bah, I beat you to it by over an hour: http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7758 - but then my post's languishing all on its lonesome.

[iball]

"download failed"

Hope the beta repository it's in is sorted out tomorrow.

[iball]

evolution-data-server 1.4.2.1.r554-3 dependancy error. can not install.

I can't even find that package in the pool, unless it's this one (naming issue?):

evolution-data-server-dev_1.4.2.1-20070628_armel.deb

Of course, one could always compile the source (http://repository.maemo.org/rtcomm/pool/bora/free/source/e/).

[ah.sima]

rtcomm seems will conflict with open-hand's applications (contacts, dates, task) that uses evolution-data-server version 1.4.2.1.r554-3.

when rtcomm is installed, open-hand's applications will can not be installed and display eds application missing. when open-hand's applications are installed, rtcomm will not be installable.

will wait the bug fixed release.

[geneven]

I was loading appss for this and now Skype doesn't run -- its Splash screen comes up and then it closes. I'm trying to figure out what to uninstall, or whetther I need to reflash, wwhich I am loathe to do.

[mobiledivide]

I want to figure out why I seem to have a different n800 than everyone else. I installed the app, followed instructions, rebooted registered my sip account and started testing calls, zero problems. Right now I have skype running with an iradio stream and the presence works perfectly. I think I am going to buy another n800 to use as as a home wifi phone now!

[Saturn]

It works for me!

(At some point the different 'contacts' have to be fixed/merged and allow synchronization but this is a different conversation.)

The after-effect is that the device get quite hot (but not dangerously) probably from the wi-fi module.

Bravo to the guys that made it..

[mwiktowy]

Just announced on maemo-developers... http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-developers/2007-July/010899.html

http://rtcomm.garage.maemo.org/

Looks like the start of some VERY nice stuff coming to 2007OS.. :D

If only I could install it... argh.

This development makes me *very* happy. It is exact how I was hoping the connectivity would work for SIP.

To those having problems ... this is pre-beta software that will destabilize your tablet and which means that removing it without completely destabilizing your tablet further will likely involve reflashing your device with the recent stable firmware. Lets not make Nokia regret giving the public exposure to early development by forcing them to field bogus support requests. Fill out an informative maemo bugzilla report instead.

[iball]

Something's screwy with that repository....
"Remote end closed connection" errors in the app manager log.
Completely unable to install this.

[DryLand404]

Does anyone have a recommended SIP provider other then sipphone.com ?


~~~~~~Ahhh I SEE!!! SipPhone.com is GizmoProject......

[ichmoimeyo]

[QUOTE=DryLand404;60498]Does anyone have a recommended SIP provider other then sipphone. ..../QUOTE]

Try 'Internetcalls'.(Same organiztion as voipbuster but you also get a free** Incoming number):
http://www.internetcalls.com/en/index.html

Once you have installed the client on your PC, you can then grab the SIP details here to input into the nokia:
http://www.internetcalls.com/en/sipp.html

I was able to receive calls on my n800 using my free United Kingdom IN number by configuring the secondary account on the Gizmo logon screen. I was however not able to make outgoing calls. I am hoping that it was a Gizmo issue and am now looking forward to testing it out on this exciting new software once I manage to dowload it :)

EDIT - free**: I got my free UK number a while back. I have contacted Internetcalls to find out which countries have available numbers. Apparently you can only change your country of residence by reinstalling the software.

[iball]

Heh. For those of you looking for free calls to a lot of countries, get Truphone on a compatible Nokia phone (N80i/N95) and then open up a hex editor to look at the truphone.set file sent via SMS t get your account login details and you're all set to use a Truphone account for FREE calls (with free incoming number) to just about any landline/SIP number on the planet.
But the repository is STILL kicking my N800 out ("connection refused") when I try to install it via the application manager so I can't install this SIP VoIP goodness. Would have been nice to use my N800 as a VoIP phone here at home, but I guess I'll still have to use my N95 for that a little while longer.

[ElGatoFlojo]

Wow...I am SO happy. I've been waiting ever since I bought the 770 to have a REAL SIP client. I could choke everyone who kept saying 'VOIP' when in fact it was only Google talk. So there was the Gizmo project. But in my opinion it still wasn't really VOIP.

So, now I have an N800. I got skype, but to me the same thing applied. I googled endlessly for SIP and N800 to no avail. And by chance I saw this tonight!

After a quick install, a reboot and its running. Breathlessly I type in my log in to my asterisk box. Then I wait to see the little dot go red showing a connection. It does. Then I head for the dial plan, tap in the digits and press call.....

And wow...omg...my cell phone is ringing!! It works!! I have a real SIP client now! I cannot express how happy I am about this! Thank you to all the developers and whoever helped make this happen. I am SO looking foward to this in the next release. And if there's anything I can do to help please PM me or post here.

For those wondering I'm connecting to a asterisk box I built myself running asterisk 1.4 and piping out through a SIP trunk to the PSTN

[benny1967]

Wow. SIP at last. And with video support. Can't believe it - it's like christmas. (Well, most likely it *will* be christmas by then :D ...)

This could be the one reason that makes me want to buy a N800 even though its so "indoor" that I can't think of any practical use case so far... (Except, of course, they get SIP working in the hacker edition, too...)


Only thing is that they say about SIP that "Video is not interoperable with other implementations"; I'm not sure if this is due to the early stage of development or if it will stay this way, but it would certainly be a pity if I couldn't make, say, Ekiga to N800 video calls.

[zerojay]

Anyways, the reason that the installer wasn't working for me earlier was because I had installed the OpenHanded PIM suite which installs evolution-data-server, which is now deprecated for evolution-data-server-addressbook and other components.

So far, I've only discovered one major bug with the new rtcomm and have filed a bug report on it. If you've installed rtcomm 1.0.1, please try to reproduce it and leave a message on the bug whether you were able to or not.

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1667

[zerojay]

Nokia has since added a disclaimer on the rtcomm page pointing to bug 1667 saying it breaks the e-mail client, which isn't entirely true.

[omegaone37]

Howdy Fellow Sippers!

anyone interested in trying a video SIP call between N800's...

my SIP name is studio37

Omega

[Mika73]

Whats SIP? And how its different than Google Talk videocall? Or skype (That doenst have N800 video yet).

[omegaone37]

Hi Mika...

you best read from the beginning of this thread... it will explain what is coming for the N800... and also provide you with info on beta testing (sort of).

Omega

[cmideiros]

[QUOTE=DryLand404;60498]Does anyone have a recommended SIP provider other then sipphone. ..../QUOTE]

Try 'Internetcalls'.(Same organiztion as voipbuster but you also get a free** Incoming number):
http://www.internetcalls.com/en/index.html

Once you have installed the client on your PC, you can then grab the SIP details here to input into the nokia:
http://www.internetcalls.com/en/sipp.html

I was able to receive calls on my n800 using my free United Kingdom IN number by configuring the secondary account on the Gizmo logon screen. I was however not able to make outgoing calls. I am hoping that it was a Gizmo issue and am now looking forward to testing it out on this exciting new software once I manage to dowload it :)

EDIT - free**: I got my free UK number a while back. I have contacted Internetcalls to find out which countries have available numbers. Apparently you can only change your country of residence by reinstalling the software.

How did you get your free sip phone number ?
The URL you mention "SIP details", doesn't mention
your sip number. It did tell me how ever how to
set up the sipp account on the N800. From there,
I was able to type on the dial pad, and call my cellphone.
It worked. Its there a time limit on the calls to land lines?
Or is it really free. It would be great, if I could get a free
sip telephone#, so someone could phone the N800.
It seems like everone else charges for a real land-line# to sipp account.

But if you say it's free... great .. I would like to know
how I find out the sip number.

[cmideiros]

Nokia has since added a disclaimer on the rtcomm page pointing to bug 1667 saying it breaks the e-mail client, which isn't entirely true.

Anyone else having the same problem (broken email).
I also uninstalled ohand in order to install rtcomm.

When you say "not entirely true", do you mean there is a workaround
or fix? They was mentioned a "workaround" in the bug page,
but it didn't work for me.... still broken.

Any idea how to fix it? Thanks...

[GeerGuy]

Has anyone had the evolution-data-server problem and been able to fix it without having to re-flash?

I have tried uninstalling everything to do with evolution, but most of the libs can not be removed. I re-installed contacts and then uninstalled to try to clean everything up, but no help. We frustrating...

thanks

[fredoll]

have you tried to disabled o-hand repository ?

[Toontje]

Something's screwy with that repository....
"Remote end closed connection" errors in the app manager log.
Completely unable to install this.

Did you ever manage to fix this? I have the same problem...

Ton.

[Rebski]

I can’t believe that I am able to contribute to this thread. When I was about to buy the N800 I knew that I wanted it to do this but had no idea how it could come about.

This has just crept in quietly out of the blue, simply amazing. I followed the instructions, installed everything, set it up for one of my SIP accounts - http://www.voiptalk.org/ - (I am based in UK) and then used it to call my brother in Ireland on his mobile phone.

The call quality was far from perfect but for the moment never mind, the point for me is that it worked. It can only get better from here on.

In response to previous posts, I then tried the email client to send and receive and that worked too.

This is just incredible.

I have more tests to do and will post back later.

[GeerGuy]

fredoll, I did remove the o-hand repo and uninstalled all o-hand apps. No o-hand apps are listed as being installed, but evolution apps are listed when in Red Pill mode. I am not able to remove them. Are there other apps that must be removed before the evolution apps/libs? or a way that I can delete them, other then with the Application Manager?

In Red Pill Mode I have installed:

evolution-data-server
evolution-data-server-calendar
evolution-data-server-common

If I try it uninstall them it fails since they are required for other libs, but the libs can not be uninstalled either since they depend on the evolution-data-server. It is a circular reference, so neither one can be removed...

[Rebski]

To report back, I have configured Accounts with 4 SIP accounts. In addition to http://www.voiptalk.org/ I use http://www.draytel.org/.

Each SIP account has allocated me an incoming geographic number – London UK. Calls by mobile or landline to any of those numbers cause my N800 to ring and I can take them as with any incoming phone call.

The incoming sound quality from a mobile phone is very poor but the caller seemed to be able to hear me alright. I haven’t yet been able to try it with a landline call.

When I come to make an outgoing call I am presented with the list of my SIP accounts and need to select the one I want to use.

Also, in order to receive a call, presence has to be set to On.

I hope these observations are useful to someone.

[Mara]

I'm having an issue about the STUN server (public IP address). I'm using Gizmoproject (Sipphone) SIP account and in the sipphone web page you can see what IP address is registered with my device. It is always wrong and it doesn't matter if I set the stun server (stun01.sipphone.com) or leave it "automatic". It never works correctly. The "Discover public address" checkbox does not seem to make any difference either. My public IP is registered as as 198.65.166.131. This one stays the same even when I log out and in from the sipphone proxy server.

When I log in with my Gizmoproject client my public IP address is shown correctly. This means that the gizmoproject client does use STUN server properly.

Also if I try to change the default port 5060 to anything than default, like 5061, this new SIP client can no longer register with sipphone proxy server. (I do have another sipphone account in my home that uses Grandstream hardware SIP adapter, and that has no problem on using port 5060 or 5061.) When the port is set to 5060 is seem to be "random port" since every time I log out and in with the sip client the port is different. Right now it is shown as 36192.

Can anyone confirm having the same issues, or can you confirm that yours is working properly?

[zerojay]

Mine is working fine but i never did check my IP or anything.

[Mara]

Mine is working fine but i never did check my IP or anything.

Most likely if yours is working (placing and receiving calls work), then your STUN server part must be working. (Or you are not behind NAT router... which is unlikely.)

Today I uninstalled and reinstalled the app and I'm still having the same issue.

Anybody? Any suggestions?

[chilko]

rtcomm was updated i think. now is version 1.0.2

[iball]

rtcomm was updated i think. now is version 1.0.2
Yes, looks like they just updated it since I didn't see it last night when I updated Wesnoth and Pidgin.
Installing the update now...wonder what's changed?

UPDATE: It installed just fine on my N800, and forces a reboot. No biggie. My SIP phone account settings were kept so that's nice.
I can't find a changelog anywhere to see what issues/features this update addresses.

[zerojay]

The only bug that was closed as fixed in the public Bugzilla was:

https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1692

[zerojay]

The following packages appear to have been updated today. Changelogs taken from the packages which are open sourced.

telepathy-sofiasip
* Replaced an over-assertive assertion with a runtime check.
Fixes: NB#64302, MB#1692.
* Added 'discover-stun' parameter as means to disable STUN altogether.
* STUN server name resolution fixed for failure cases.
telepathy-feed
* src/galago.c: (get_service), (handle_member_presence),
(update_capabilities), (on_members_changed),
(on_capabilities_changed), (context_disconnected),
(context_connected):
* src/main.c: (main):
* src/shared.h:
Use bitmask instead of strings as capability flags
libaccounts0
libaccounts-dev
osso-applet-accounts (someone please check Accounts!)
osso-accounts-settings
libaccounts-rtcom0
libaccounts-rtcom-dev
osso-accounts-plugin-sip
osso-accounts-plugin-jabber
osso-accounts-plugin-gtalk
osso-voip-ui
osso-voip-ui-dbg
osso-rtcom-beta
* Software updated

[chilko]

and now is 1.0.3

[zerojay]

Changes made to the following:

telepathy-sofiasip:


* Properly raise the error in case of calling yourself.
* Fixed a potential crash in the authentication handler.
* Prevent stream handlers from defaulting the sending state to true.
* Implemented rollback on failed incoming session offers.
* Pruned the advertized list of allowed SIP methods to the ones we really try
to support.

osso-voip-ui
Closed source, can't see changes.

[iball]

Well, these guys are on a roll...updated yet again.

[armel.deb]

Quick question: Is Meamo 4.0 intended for the N800?
Or for -- yet another -- new model NIT?
DEFINITELY IT IS FOR THE N800 !

[timothy]

Just got my new n800, and have just installed the latest rtcomm beta (on the latest firmware). I struggled for a while to get my gizmo account to work, but it turns out that the website is case-insensitive for the password, but SIP authentication isn't -- took me a very long time to realise I was using capitals where I shouldn't.

It connects, and I can place and receive calls, but the audio is one way only, from the n800 to the phone. I cannot hear what is being said on the phone. I have also tried this with the echo test, but I get the same result.

Does anyone else get this problem, or know how to solve it?

[zerojay]

You'll have to bother Gizmo about that.

[gogol]

I'm guessing this isn't installable on 2007HE?
edit: Couldn't wait for an answer so I went ahead and tried. Here's my notes from a sucessful install on OS 2007HE on a 770! :D

Went to site, did one-click install. Application Manager came up and tried unsucessfully to install it.
I checked what binary /usr/share/applications/hildon/osso-rtcom-installer.desktop was referencing: /usr/bin/betainstaller. So i got root and ran that command. Poof the App Manager opens again, does some sort of downloading or...? And then says rtcom is already installed. Hmm. So I cautiously reboot...and there's new options available in Internet Call. I successfully set up my gizmo project account as per directions on the rtcomm site.

..and made a test call to a nearby payphone :D Can't say how stable/usable it is just yet, but so far so good.

Here's what seems to be a list of what /usr/bin/betainstaller installed:

Nokia-770-36:~# ls -tla /var/lib/dpkg/info | more
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 0 Oct 5 13:28 ..
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 Oct 5 13:27 .
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 157 Oct 5 13:27 osso-rtcom-beta.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 336 Oct 5 13:27 osso-speeddial.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 438 Oct 5 13:27 telepathy-stream-engine.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 598 Oct 5 13:27 telepathy-sofiasip.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 436 Oct 5 13:27 osso-statusbar-presence.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 658 Oct 5 13:27 osso-voip-ui.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 683 Oct 5 13:27 osso-mission-control.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 673 Oct 5 13:27 osso-chat-ui.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1546 Oct 5 13:27 osso-addressbook.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 528 Oct 5 13:27 osso-applet-presence.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 210 Oct 5 13:27 telepathy-feed.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 462 Oct 5 13:27 telepathy-gabble.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 671 Oct 5 13:27 osso-accounts-plugin-sip.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 819 Oct 5 13:27 osso-accounts-plugin-jabber.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 181 Oct 5 13:27 mission-control-filters.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 812 Oct 5 13:27 osso-accounts-plugin-gtalk.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 285 Oct 5 13:27 libtelepathy-glib0.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 502 Oct 5 13:27 mce.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 294 Oct 5 13:27 mcetools.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 809 Oct 5 13:27 mime-support.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 349 Oct 5 13:27 libsofia-sip-ua0.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 344 Oct 5 13:27 libscw.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 389 Oct 5 13:27 libsofia-sip-ua-glib3.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 299 Oct 5 13:27 libosso-rtcom.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 309 Oct 5 13:27 libmissioncontrol-utils.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 388 Oct 5 13:27 libloudmouth1-0.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 290 Oct 5 13:27 libimlogger0.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 288 Oct 5 13:27 libsqlite3-0.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 421 Oct 5 13:27 libaccounts-rtcom0.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 355 Oct 5 13:27 libfarsight-0.1-2.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 433 Oct 5 13:27 libglade2-0.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 674 Oct 5 13:27 gst-plugins-farsight.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 454 Oct 5 13:27 farsight0.1-2-transmitter-rawudp.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 472 Oct 5 13:27 farsight0.1-2-transmitter-libjingle.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 448 Oct 5 13:27 libjinglep2p0.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 379 Oct 5 13:27 libjinglebase0.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 407 Oct 5 13:27 farsight0.1-2-rtp.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 404 Oct 5 13:27 farsight0.1-rtp.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 352 Oct 5 13:27 eds-sync.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 627 Oct 5 13:27 evolution-data-server-addressbook.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 228 Oct 5 13:27 libosso-abook.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 616 Oct 5 13:27 osso-contact-plugin.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 487 Oct 5 13:27 galago-daemon.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 242 Oct 5 13:27 libgalago3.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 496 Oct 5 13:27 libmissioncontrol0.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 286 Oct 5 13:27 libtelepathy.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 175 Oct 5 13:27 evolution-data-server.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 157 Oct 5 13:27 mission-control.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 444 Oct 5 13:27 osso-applet-accounts.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1507 Oct 5 13:27 osso-rtcom-icons.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 252 Oct 5 13:27 libaccounts0.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 424 Oct 5 13:27 libebook.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 163 Oct 5 13:27 libmissioncontrol.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 341 Oct 5 13:27 libedata-book.list
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 349 Oct 5 13:27 libedataserver.list

AWESOME! I hope this proves more stable than Gizmo's fuxored client.

double edit: As it says on the garage page, "DTMF is not reliable." ...meaning I can't check gizmo voicemail via their 611 number. Other than that, it's working excellent. Receiving and making calls is a bit quicker compared to the 10 second 100% cpu usage gizmo goes through. Tested and nicely functional with http://click2voice.com

..and that buttugly default icon (some sort of flat penguin?) is located at /usr/share/icons/hicolor/128x128/hildon/qgn_addr_icon_avatar.png for your haxing pleasure..
you can also change the heinous little purple dudes with headsets on to something else. It's at /usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/hildon/qgn_indi_voip_idle.png

[gogol]

After a few days of using this, I would not recommend it. You're better off with the horribly unstable Gizmo than trying to have two horribly unstable apps that conflict with eachother.

[zerojay]

Just remove Gizmo and you're stable.

[fpp]

Hmm. So I cautiously reboot...

Just out of pure curiosity : how does one reboot "cautiously" ?

(sorry... couldn't resist :-)

[gogol]

how does one reboot "cautiously" ? :P LOL
It just makes a better story that way :D

Aaand, to add a bit more to the story:

I decided to uninstall gizmo-project and see if that perhaps helped the situation. Now I see that gizmo being installed was preventing the rtcom beta installer from completing properly. As soon as it was uninstalled via apt-get, this popped up:


Setting up farsight0.1-2-rtp (0.1.21-0osso1.9) ...

Configuration file `/etc/farsight/gstelements.conf'
==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.
==> Package distributor has shipped an updated version.
What would you like to do about it ? Your options are:
Y or I : install the package maintainer's version
N or O : keep your currently-installed version
D : show the differences between the versions
Z : background this process to examine the situation
The default action is to keep your current version.
*** gstelements.conf (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? Y
Installing new version of config file /etc/farsight/gstelements.conf ...
Setting up osso-rtcom-beta (1.3-3) ...
Cache file created successfully.

Nokia-770-36:~# Reboot requested


What a trip. I'm off to test some more!

edit:
Holy crap that works a thousand times better.
Now there's no 20 second delay at the beginning of calls.
But how the heck do I check voicemail?