NuvoBlack now works on the most recent OS2007!

[Spazholio]

Took a little doing though. I've repackaged it, and you can download it here (http://www.lexal.net/NuvoBlack.deb).

I ran it, and it seemed to work pretty well for me. If you notice anything wrong, please let me know.

I lay no claim to this, all credit goes to Urho Konttori, and the original .deb file can be found here (http://maemo.org/downloads/product/nuvoblack).

[squirl]

I just installed it. Everytime I tried to start Opera, it would crash saying internal web error. I switched themes and Opera worked.

[Spazholio]

Well...that certainly DOES sound bad. Give me a bit, I'm looking into it now.

EDIT: Ok, so far, it only happens if you're using the Opera engine, not the Mozilla one. Looking into it.

[jwilker]

yeah was about to add (for first post :) ) that my mozilla engine doesn't seem to suffer. Nice theme, new the 800, this is my new theme!

[barry99705]

Ooooo, nice. I need to go in and adjust the font sizes, but I like the theme!

[Spazholio]

Alright, dammit. =)

It's 99% of the way there. It doesn't crash Opera, so that's a plus. The up and down arrows look a little....well, install it and see. They're functional, just look a little off. I *will* fix that in a bit, but I'm getting that look from my wife that says if I don't stop messing with this, I won't have a wife soon.

I'll let you guys know whenever I get it figured out.

And, uhh...Uhro? If you're out there, throw me a frickin' bone here, wouldja? =)

[barry99705]

Alright, dammit. =)

It's 99% of the way there. It doesn't crash Opera, so that's a plus. The up and down arrows look a little....well, install it and see. They're functional, just look a little off. I *will* fix that in a bit, but I'm getting that look from my wife that says if I don't stop messing with this, I won't have a wife soon.

I'll let you guys know whenever I get it figured out.

And, uhh...Uhro? If you're out there, throw me a frickin' bone here, wouldja? =)


But then you'll have more time to mess with your Nokia! :p

[squirl]

I love it. Thanks for taking the time. You are not the only one who gets looks from the wife.

[rhouge]

I love it. Thanks for taking the time. You are
not the only one who gets looks from the wife.
Or girlfriend.

[debernardis]

In my experience, the nuvothemes reinstalled by spazholio's method make Opera crash, but if you previously modify the installed theme by Puchi, the newly coloured theme behaves rightly with Opera.

[konttori]

Hi guys,

I haven't had the time to look into the thememaker compatibility issue yet. I'm still considering being 'on vacation', so no debugging sessions yet. The most probable cause is that there is a compatibility issue in the opera.zip file. Compare that to the respective zip of a working theme on the device.

Hope that helps! And sorry for the lack of time.

[Frankowitz]

These themes are different in structure than the original Nokia themes. Check Plankton for instance.
My biggest complaint about the default themes is the fontsize. 12pt fonts seem about right.

[rhouge]

The link at the top of this thread works great while running opera.

[rhouge]

These themes are different in structure than the original Nokia themes. Check Plankton for instance.
My biggest complaint about the default themes is the fontsize. 12pt fonts seem about right.


I noticed this more with the nuvoblack as opposed to plankton. Is there an "easy" way to change these settings for themes?

[Frankowitz]

I noticed this more with the nuvoblack as opposed to plankton. Is there an "easy" way to change these settings for themes?

I'm afraid not. The new firmware made the use of themes from Urho Konttori's Theme Maker (http://thememaker.garage.maemo.org/About%20Theme%20Maker.html) impossible.
http://thememaker.garage.maemo.org/About%20Theme%20Maker_files/Picture%203.png
I manually (http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=61977&postcount=14) tried to get the Vista 10 pt and 12 pt themes (http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5535) to work and they did. But they seem buggy. The use of Puchi (http://puchi.garage.maemo.org/) got rid of the crashing Opera, but it still doesn't feel 'right'.
(For the DIY guys: I provided all links to get it working yourselves.)

We'll have to wait for Urho to update the Theme Maker I guess... :(

[barry99705]

I noticed this more with the nuvoblack as opposed to plankton. Is there an "easy" way to change these settings for themes?

It's "easy" if you know your way around the command line. Just edit the /usr/share/themes/THEMENAME/gtk-2.0/gtkrc file. There's a block of text for the font sizes. I don't change the hrw fonts, because I don't do the hand writing thing. This is what I have mine set to at the moment.


##############################
#
# Font definitions
#
##############################

style "osso-SystemFont" {
font_name = "Nokia Sans 10"
}

style "osso-EmpSystemFont" {
font_name = "Nokia Sans Bold 10"
}

style "osso-TitleFont" {
font_name = "Nokia Sans 11"
}

style "osso-ButtonFont" {
font_name = "Nokia Sans 11.00"
}


style "osso-SmallFont" {
font_name = "Nokia Sans 10"
}

style "osso-LargeFont" {
font_name = "Nokia Sans 12.00"
}

[Frankowitz]

It's "easy" if you know your way around the command line. Just edit the /usr/share/themes/THEMENAME/gtk-2.0/gtkrc file. There's a block of text for the font sizes.

True, but if you just change the fontsize and nothing more, the theme won't feel 'right'. Large scrollbars, lot's of open unused space arround the small fonts... It has to be a complete 'small' theme or it will be worse than the large fonts.

[barry99705]

True, but if you just change the fontsize and nothing more, the theme won't feel 'right'. Large scrollbars, lot's of open unused space arround the small fonts... It has to be a complete 'small' theme or it will be worse than the large fonts.


I don't know, it looks okay to me. Maybe I just haven't seen a good small theme.

[Frankowitz]

Hmm, your screenshot certainly doesn't look bad!
I'll try again, maybe I tried it on theme that made it worse.

*UPDATE*

Changing the settings in gtkrc doesn't do anything it seems...

[barry99705]

Hmm, your screenshot certainly doesn't look bad!
I'll try again, maybe I tried it on theme that made it worse.

*UPDATE*

Changing the settings in gtkrc doesn't do anything it seems...

Change themes, then change back or reboot. Sometimes it doesn't take effect immediately.

[Frankowitz]

Change themes, then change back or reboot. Sometimes it doesn't take effect immediately.

Doesn't make any difference, still doesn't work.

On a side note, I tried the smaller fonts some time ago (previous firmware) that are available here (http://maemo.org/downloads/product/12pt-14pt-os2006-themes/). Those are the ones I didn't like.

[barry99705]

Doesn't make any difference, still doesn't work.

On a side note, I tried the smaller fonts some time ago (previous firmware) that are available here (http://maemo.org/downloads/product/12pt-14pt-os2006-themes/). Those are the ones I didn't like.

Are there cache files? You'll need to delete those. That's weird that the font isn't changing size.

[Frankowitz]

Are there cache files? You'll need to delete those. That's weird that the font isn't changing size.

Ah, deleting the cache files did the trick! Thanx!
(I'm not so good with this linux stuff, you know ;))

[barry99705]

Ah, deleting the cache files did the trick! Thanx!
(I'm not so good with this linux stuff, you know ;))

Good to know that worked. I couldn't remember if there were cache files or not.

[Frankowitz]

Good to know that worked. I couldn't remember if there were cache files or not.

I did see the cache files at first, but I have something against deleting files in root mode of which I don't know what they do exactly... :p

[munky261]

does thememaker work with the new firmware yet?

[konttori]

Nope. I will try to take on that next week.

[Frankowitz]

Nope. I will try to take on that next week.

Now that's what I call good news! :)

[Frankowitz]

Any progress there, Konttori?

[konttori]

Well, I've found the problem with help from a guy from Nokia, but I haven't been able to fix it yet. Basically the problem is in making a tar file. The tar libraries that I've found for java are not compatible with the latest tar in the firmware. I hope we'll make some progress next week.

[Frankowitz]

Well, I've found the problem with help from a guy from Nokia, but I haven't been able to fix it yet. Basically the problem is in making a tar file. The tar libraries that I've found for java are not compatible with the latest tar in the firmware. I hope we'll make some progress next week.

Indeed, the structure of the files from ThemeMaker is different from the default ones that do work.

[konttori]

Nokia has now fixed the bug in their tar.
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1637

I hope that it will come downstream soon to the rest of us.

[AsteroidS]

http://www.geocities.com/sgralliart/slevin770-001.jpg

[Frankowitz]

Nokia has now fixed the bug in their tar.
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1637

I hope that it will come downstream soon to the rest of us.

Any info on the bugfix yet?

[munky261]

can anyone post a link , that works , to download nuvoblack that will work with the latest firmware ( sdhc fix) would greatly appreciate it. :)

[konttori]

https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/1615/NuvoBlack.deb
https://garage.maemo.org/frs/download.php/1617/NuvoPearl.deb

great news that it's working now!!!!
Kudos Joni!

[zeez]

Hmm, do these debs work for everyone ? I'm running the latest (sdhc fix) firmware on my N800 and i still get that tar error when trying to install the debs...

[munky261]

those debs will not work with the latest , says installation file corrupted

[TTgowings]

Same here, not installable..

I was even having issues dl the 2 debs just to save to file..

[munky261]

ive finally got nuvoblack working on the newest FW. thanks goes to suryavanshi for walking me through it , the way it wqas done , i believe any theme made with theme maker or an otherwise uninstallable theme on the new firmware can be installed in this manner.

[munky261]

ok , next question lol how do i install theme maker on my windows pc... i downloaded the .zip fil but what do i do after i extract the files?

[zeez]

ive finally got nuvoblack working on the newest FW. thanks goes to suryavanshi for walking me through it , the way it wqas done , i believe any theme made with theme maker or an otherwise uninstallable theme on the new firmware can be installed in this manner.

Would you please explain these steps then ?

[konttori]

ok , next question lol how do i install theme maker on my windows pc... i downloaded the .zip fil but what do i do after i extract the files?

You need to install java on your windows to be able to open theme maker.

When / if you have java installed, just double click on the thememaker.jar file.

[munky261]

here are the steps these were given to me assuming i was running ubuntu , but i run windows so anyone tell me if you need that method.



1. Download the .deb file to your PC.
http://www.lexal.net/NuvoBlack.deb

2. Right Click on the downloaded file and click "Extract Here". The file gets extracted to a folder called "NuvoBlack.deb_FILES"

3. Browse to the folder and you will see a file called "data.tar.gz". Right click this file and extract again. The file gets extracted to a folder called "data.tar.gz_FILES"

4. Browse to this folder and you will find 2 folders one named "home" and the other named "usr" These are the 2 folders that need to get copied to your N800.

5. Attach your N800 to the PC using the USB cable and copy these files to your N800 SD card (Internal or Removable). Unmount your N800 drives and unplug the N800.

6. Assuming you have ssh, become root and xterm installed. Open xterm. Type "ssh root@your_N800_ip". Enter yor password. Once your are logged in as root type "cd /media/mmc1" or "cd /media/mmc2" depending on where you copied the files. A quick "ls" in xterm will let you know if you are in the right place.

7. Type the following into xterm

cp -rfp usr/share/themes/NuvoBlack/ /usr/share/themes
cp -rfp home/user/.opera/skin/NuvoBlack.zip /home/user/.opera/skin/

8. Exit xterm. Now select NuvoBlack from themes in control panel

[munky261]

konttori , where can i find the source image for nuvoblack , id like to make a few tweaks on the navigation icons and such.

[konttori]

It's included in the latest theme maker. Just look in the folder.

[HandyG]

munky261 -- you cannot exract that file? or at least I could not. do you need winzip or winrar?

[konttori]

you need dpkg command.