Headphone problem

[corkpcp]

Hi,

After update to PR 1.1 my headphones are not detected automatically anymore.

If I want to use them, I need to plug them in and reboot the N9.

When done, I have to reboot in order to use the loud speakers instead.

Any idea how to fix this?

[N9on]

Just posted this

"Has anyone else experienced problems with their headset port since updating to PR1.1 ?

Mine no longer detects any headphones are connected at all. However turn off the device and plug in headphones and once booted the headphones will work, however unplug them with the device on and the loudspeaker will no longer work and people wont be able to hear you if they call either. So i have to restart the phone once more without headphones attached to bring normal service (albeit one that doesn't have a working headphone jack) back to the phone...

I want to see if anyone else has this problem as its quite different to the occasionally fussy like or not like of certain branded headsets others have reported. This affects ALL headsets / headphones including the Nokia ones included in the box.

I used to use Bluetooth headset before PR1.1 so I can not testify as to whether it is the update that has broken the auto-detection of the device (headphones connected or not) or whether the issue has been on my handset all along.

One could be attributable to a software issue, but could also likely be a hardware issue requiring repair or replacement. Before I go without my phone for 2 weeks or more could I ask others to check their PR1.1 updated handsets for the same issue.

Many thanks

N9on"

Sounds like same problem. Did you ever resolve it ????/

[jalyst]

Hi,

After update to PR 1.1 my headphones are not detected automatically anymore.

If I want to use them, I need to plug them in and reboot the N9.

When done, I have to reboot in order to use the loud speakers instead.

Any idea how to fix this?

Have you searched the bug-tracker to see if anything similar's been reported?

Try a full reset perhaps? Failing that...
Backup any content you have (not setting/apps) i.e. music, vids, docs etc.
And then do a full re-flash... Failing that...
Lodge a bug report on bug-tracker, if there isn't already one that's similar.

[SamGan]

My N9 still detects my headphones normally in PR1.1. Try a hard rest and see if it cures the problem.

[joelsk]

Just posted this

"Has anyone else experienced problems with their headset port since updating to PR1.1 ?

Mine no longer detects any headphones are connected at all. However turn off the device and plug in headphones and once booted the headphones will work, however unplug them with the device on and the loudspeaker will no longer work and people wont be able to hear you if they call either. So i have to restart the phone once more without headphones attached to bring normal service (albeit one that doesn't have a working headphone jack) back to the phone...

I want to see if anyone else has this problem as its quite different to the occasionally fussy like or not like of certain branded headsets others have reported. This affects ALL headsets / headphones including the Nokia ones included in the box.

I used to use Bluetooth headset before PR1.1 so I can not testify as to whether it is the update that has broken the auto-detection of the device (headphones connected or not) or whether the issue has been on my handset all along.

One could be attributable to a software issue, but could also likely be a hardware issue requiring repair or replacement. Before I go without my phone for 2 weeks or more could I ask others to check their PR1.1 updated handsets for the same issue.

Many thanks

N9on"

Sounds like same problem. Did you ever resolve it ????/

Had the same issue after update, as well as a 'ping' sound at start up.
Reset didn't help.
Reinstall via NSU didn't help either.
Sent it to Nokia Care 2 Fridays ago, and they're replacing the motherboard. Stil haven't got it back though, so couldn't say if the problem is solved.
Off topic, Nokia Care is REALLY sucky after Nokia sub contracted it to some jokers. Before it was on the spot repairs or 3 days at most.
On the plus side, I gained the breathing LED notification light at the expense of the headphones...

[Schturman]

I also have problem, but with not nokia branded headphones..

[N9on]

Had the same issue after update, as well as a 'ping' sound at start up.
Reset didn't help.
Reinstall via NSU didn't help either.
Sent it to Nokia Care 2 Fridays ago, and they're replacing the motherboard. Stil haven't got it back though, so couldn't say if the problem is solved.
Off topic, Nokia Care is REALLY sucky after Nokia sub contracted it to some jokers. Before it was on the spot repairs or 3 days at most.
On the plus side, I gained the breathing LED notification light at the expense of the headphones...


Thanks for the response. I suspect it may require hardware fix. Worried as it means probably won't get my phone back till after christmas or new year if I send it off for repair now, but better to send it off I guess and get it sorted.

Oh and yes, the ping sound is there when my phone boots up too.



My N9 still detects my headphones normally in PR1.1. Try a hard rest and see if it cures the problem.

That doesn't work. Problem persists.


I also have problem, but with not nokia branded headphones..

The problem the OP and I describe is different to the occasional pickiness of the phone and headset brands.

This affects ALL headphones regardless of branding unfortunately.




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At this stage, I may just get a new phone (Lumia 800 or iPhone4s) and sell this one off when it comes back from repair. As much as I like the N9 and meego, the user experience and dealing with Nokia Care hasn't been very good at all unfortunately.

[jalyst]

You tried a re-instal/re-flash?
Worth it if it works, you don't have to bother sending-it-off then.
I know it didn't work for joelsk, & he sounds very similar, but you never know.
Sounds most likely like a hw issue though.

[slashd0t]

No issue here thank god with PR1.1... I use my headphones way to much to have this issue!

[N9on]

You tried a re-instal/re-flash?
Worth it if it works, you don't have to bother sending-it-off then.
I know it didn't work for joelsk, & he sounds very similar, but you never know.
Sounds most likely like a hw issue though.

Yes i too have hard reset and re-flashed, alas to no avail.

Will be despatchibg mine by post to Nokia Ireland for repair. Unfortunately as the phone is not officially available here, it could mean a long protracted repair, and given the time of year - I'm not expecting to see this phone till early January.



Nokia care terrible service on the phone..

Rang Nokia Care Ireland. I had to fight with Nokia on the phone for them to even agree to look at my phone. They kept telling me that as it wasn't officially available here, I'll have to send it to Expansys.

I pointed out to them that by EU law any item sold within the EU and being used in the EU is covered by law and is eligible for warranty service by the manufacturer.

Nokia on the phone continued to refuse to help and hung upon me.

I went to Nokia discussions on their website and found an administrator / moderator and explained what happened. They took my IMEI and checked it. As the phone was intended for Switzerland and I was in Ireland, they concurred that under the EU limited warranty I was entitled to service repair / replacement if necessary, and that the information from the phone support was completely wrong and will be taken up with them.

They sent me a PDF to fill out and send my phone off with on a freepost address.

Getting service shouldn't require this much hassle in 2011. If I didn't know my rights as an EU citizen I would have basically just been palmed off and left feeling I had wasted nearly €600 on a broken defective device.

Terrible service upto this point, and no matter what it tarnishes the relationship you have with your device. n9 I used to love you, now I'm wondering if youre truly worthy of my love at all ;)

[joelsk]

Nokia care terrible service on the phone..

Rang Nokia Care Ireland. I had to fight with Nokia on the phone for them to even agree to look at my phone. They kept telling me that as it wasn't officially available here, I'll have to send it to Expansys.

Nokia Care actually answered the phone?
WOW!

Got so fed up of unanswered phone calls that i went there myself to get an update.

Nokia Care should have a tracking service to at least enable customers to track the progress of their faulty phones.. I'm sure that would be cheaper than hiring someone to NOT answer the phone.

[afaq]

Can report the same problem. Reboot doesnt work. I tried two different 3.5mm headphones and nothing.

Luckily I use bluetooth for my main use but this isnt acceptable. I can write a full page on things that dont work/annoy me about the N9.

[Maserti]

Do you guys have 16GB or 64GB units?and from where were they manufactured?, im planning to buy a N9 CYan 16GB made in Finland, shortly so i know to be careful

[afaq]

64Gb, Dubai. Black.

[Mitrandir]

Hi all,

I'm having the same symptoms on my N950.

And I finally (almost) solved the problem. I found the way to manually switch audio between speaker and headphones by simulating audio jack insertion/removing events.

I'm going to create an app to switch audio using an icon on homescreen. Probably today or tomorrow.

Are there any live users who want to test it?

[TNL]

Hi all,

I'm having the same symptoms on my N950.

And I finally (almost) solved the problem. I found the way to manually switch audio between speaker and headphones by simulating audio jack insertion/removing events.

I'm going to create an app to switch audio using an icon on homescreen. Probably today or tomorrow.

Are there any live users who want to test it?

I would like to test it.

For some reason the headset that comes with the N9 stopped working today (music played over speakers), though it seems to recognize it (screen unlocks). My other headphones don't give any problems, so it might be just the headset.
But anyway, worth a try and hopefully I can help you with it :).

[Mitrandir]

Please test attached package.

It will create icon on the desktop which will toggle between speaker and headphone sound output.

It simulates real jack insertion/ejection events, device will behave as usual, for example, it will pause music when "ejecting" audio jack.

Hope it will help you.

I'm not sure what is the root couse of the issue. But I suspect that the problem is in audio jack construction. Because sometimes device detects headphones only when I'm pushing, tilting, squeezing the connector.

UPD: sources are here: https://bitbucket.org/IlyaSkriblovsky/headphonefix/src

[wook_sf]

Mitrandir, thanks for deb, i rushed to pm you and didn't saw it's uploaded because you was appeared online :D
sorry;)

[Mitrandir]

Yep, I saw your PM, but didn't replied because already uploaded .deb here. Please try it and let me know about results.

I'm not sure that problem is in hardware. May be software. Or may be even both :)

As far as I remember, Harmattan's firmwares are not downgradeable. So, no chance to check if problem was caused by PR1.1.

UPD: added a link to source code to the post with .deb file

[wook_sf]

working as charm :D
dude, now i will checkout to simulate tv-out events ;)
i am not so good with qt:S but...i'll learn it one day :D lol
i will make icon for this hehehehe
probably both, hardware solution and software.
tell me, is your n950 silver one?
thanx for source too :D

[Mitrandir]

Cool! I'm happy that this works not only for me ;)

If you can create an icon for this hack, it would be just great. By the way, we need two icons: for headphones and speaker states, because I want to improve it to show current state of the sound output.

Don't forget to switch it back to Speaker when you remove headphones. Because if somebody will call you, you won't be able to answer without headphones — it will try to take voice from headset microphone.

And there is no Qt at all in this application ;) Just several hours of investigation and a bit of luck

[wook_sf]

hehehe, i saw, finally something i can read :D (.c) :D hehehe
thank you so much for this, my phone was dusty for long time...because of this issue
i will do 10 icons if it takes :D
lol
shall we do real scalable icons? ;)
/*
do you think you can install some system wide hook to watch hardware events and then to switch write on /dev/input/jack so it can be as service?
i think that some even must occur when 3.5mm is plugged in/out
*/

[Mitrandir]

Either scalable, or just 80x80 PNG.

You can use this official icon toolkit and guide as starting point:

http://www.developer.nokia.com/Resources/Library/Design_and_UX/designing-for-nokia-platforms/Nokia%20Icon%20Toolkit.zip

http://www.developer.nokia.com/Resources/Library/Design_and_UX/designing-for-nokia-platforms/designing-for-meego-12-harmattan/meego-launcher-icon-templates.html

But, anyway, this is just an ugly hack, it probably doesn't deserve much effort for the icon :)

[wook_sf]

so far it's good solution :D since nokia didn't introduced any better one...
it's far better solution than lock button app for example, right? :D
and, i would design icon for it anyway :D ;)
so, pm me with e-mail :D and i'll contact you later
btw, go and find tv-out magic :D

[wook_sf]

icons created :D

[Mitrandir]

Thanks for icons!

TV-Out cable doesn't work too for you?
Unfortunately, I have no tv-out cable for testing :( N950 was shipped without one

[wook_sf]

well, nothing related to 3.5mm jack works, doesn't matter, i don't use tv-out after all :D
i bought cable for n97mini long ago :D
how did you got magics?

[stratax]

i only have one pair of headphones that work with my n9, and they are ipod headphones that sound horrible without EQ -_- i have a couple other pairs that are pretty nice but none of them work, and they all have mics.. i think headphones with mics dont work with the n9?

whenever i plug them in they make a static noise like they are about to work but music continues to play through the loud speaker. but.. the app posted a page back helped. i have to mess with it though.

what i have to do to get it to work: plug in my headphones almost all of the way in just a milimeter out maybe and it makes a really ugly static buzz then i click on the app and BAM :D works. kind of a hassle, but im glad it works.. hopefully there is a permanent fix sometime.

edit: nvm did some searching and there appears to be an adapter i can use :)

also, i have a question; how exactly do make the icon above as the app icon? thanks

[aShtk]

@Stratax : exactly ! Every headphone with a mic don't work, although one once worked with mine for some days, then I couldn't use it anymore (weird huh ?).

It seems to be a mix of a hardware / software issue, and the fix you posted don't resolve the problem for me : (

[Mitrandir]

Guys, I have Nokia WH-205 with mic and also some Samsung headset with mic and both have worked great with N950 (which 99% equals to N9). But one day all headsets stopped working permanently. So, I don't think that problem is in microphone.

But may be your iPod headset simply has different pinout?

how exactly do make the icon above as the app icon?
Do you mean icon's graphics? Sorry, I have not integrated icon yet, but I will it right now.
But I can't find a reliable way to make icon display current state, so I will use static icon with audio jack.

the fix you posted don't resolve the problem for me : (
So, when you clicking on the icon, sound still goes to speaker?
The fix displays a messages "speaker → headphone" and "headphone → speaker" depending on change performed. Did you see both messages? Or only "speaker → headphone" one?

[Mitrandir]

Here is new build of ‘headphonefix’ with the icon

@wook_sf Sorry, but I didn't integrated your idea with switching icon, because if device was rebooted or if device suddenly recognizes headset and changes audio output automagically, the icon will not reflect current state anymore. I don't know a good solution here. So, lets keep only one icon which will not reflect current state, but also will not cause misunderstanding.

[wook_sf]

Here is new build of ‘headphonefix’ with the icon

@wook_sf Sorry, but I didn't integrated your idea with switching icon, because if device was rebooted or if device suddenly recognizes headset and changes audio output automagically, the icon will not reflect current state anymore. I don't know a good solution here. So, lets keep only one icon which will not reflect current state, but also will not cause misunderstanding.
yes, i noticed that :S what do you think about making a daemon that runs in background? or even autostart script that will simply copy headphonefix_0.svg to /home/user/headphone_icon.svg it is not a big deal, and i think i can find more events to simulate ;)

[aShtk]

So, when you clicking on the icon, sound still goes to speaker?
The fix displays a messages "speaker → headphone" and "headphone → speaker" depending on change performed. Did you see both messages? Or only "speaker → headphone" one?

I have to test again to tell you the exact behavior.
I see both messages, and something happens, but when I plug the headphone I can hear the sound 1 sec sometimes, most of the time I hear a "SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" then nothing, I have to unplug.

I test again and make you a full report asap.

[Mitrandir]

Weird...

Have this headset worked before with N9?

I have two versions:
1. May be it has different pinout
2. May be degradation of your audio socket on device is worse than ours... :( And not only headset detection fails, but audio signal as well...

[wook_sf]

maybe we should write proper audio drivers for this system, with system wide equalizer? Mitrandir, what do you think?
i was investigating last night, all possible events on input, and there's nothing that occurs during jack plug in/out :S
it's really strange...probably driver issue...probably

[Mitrandir]

Actually, I'm not so good at linux' internals to write drivers :)

I have investigated audio inputs/outpus with alsamixer before creating my fix. When device does not recognize headset, nothing happens in alsamixer, you're right. If it does recognize, a couple of outputs gets muted, a couple another gets unmuted. But muting/unmuting these outputs gives nothing.

As far as I understood, there are two distinct audio devices in the phone — "twl4030" for speaker and external mics and "dac32" for headset. And when device correctly recognizes headset insertion and ejection, it powers down one audio device and powers up another.

Anyway, after investigating all this for a couple of evenings, it seems to me that this is more hardware than software issue... I don't think audio device driver or something might be broken. But I can imagine easily that some electric contact in connector was failed...

[wook_sf]

i think it's not just connector, it's something else because i checked all contacts and they are fine (not that i have schematics, but it would be very good to have it)
damn :D

[martycollinsesq]

So if you have a iphone headset with mic, I can install deb and get headset to work by toggling icon?

[wook_sf]

So if you have a iphone headset with mic, I can install deb and get headset to work by toggling icon?

probably you will hear something, but this is not making nokia use iPhone's technology of inverted jack.
get adapter ;)

[Mitrandir]

wook_sf, do you mean that iPhone's headset has different piout? Isn't it why stratax has noise instead of sound with iPod's headset, described in this post: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1217600&postcount=28 ?

[stratax]

wook_sf, do you mean that iPhone's headset has different piout? Isn't it why stratax has noise instead of sound with iPod's headset, described in this post: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1217600&postcount=28 ?

its not just the ipod headset, its any headset with a mic (that im aware of). i hear a bunch of static if its almost all the way in but i can also kind of hear music (if playing) just a tad though, then when i open the app above the static goes away and it sounds perfect :)

sounds like a software problem to me, or driver, etc

[Mitrandir]

Sorry, but i'm not agree with that any headset with a mic does not work, because I had at least two different 4-pin stereo headsets with a mic (Nokia & Samsung) which did work before problem appeared on my phone, and both of them continue to work now with 'headphonefix' (and mic works too)

[wook_sf]

yes, iPhone switched two pins (i can't find schematics, but i think it's shifted by one pin) so, iPhone's headphones will just produce sound, but mic will NOT work :D

[Mitrandir]

Ouch! This is quite in their style...

[wook_sf]

yep iCantBeUsedWithOtherDevices...
one thing, do you maybe have beta 1 fw for harmattan?
yes, oold one (first public)
(i had little problem with my hdd and i was only able to recover pr1.2, pr1.1 and emmc from pr1.0 :S) damn

[Mitrandir]

No, sorry, I've recently reinstalled the system on my PC and saved only what I really need and dropped all old files.

But anyway, as far as I remember, N950's firmware isn't downgradeable

[wook_sf]

No, sorry, I've recently reinstalled the system on my PC and saved only what I really need and dropped all old files.

But anyway, as far as I remember, N950's firmware isn't downgradeable
i need it because of audio drivers :D

[wook_sf]

fixed icon with autostart script...though :D
however, it works + i added it to shortcut menu ;) it's very nice :D
hope Mitrandir will merge it ;) :D
btw, this should be renamed to headset instead of headphone, because magic sent to jack is actually magic of headset

[stratax]

Sorry, but i'm not agree with that any headset with a mic does not work, because I had at least two different 4-pin stereo headsets with a mic (Nokia & Samsung) which did work before problem appeared on my phone, and both of them continue to work now with 'headphonefix' (and mic works too)

Yeah i can see that, but as far as i know they dont work with most. i havent tried the "fix" on the iphone headphones. i did the "fix" with my JL buds, scks that i have to do the whole thing everytime i want to listen to music. i need to buy the adapter lol. i have another headset with a mic ill test them later on or something maybe

[kombipom]

The app doesn't seem to work for me. I just get "Speaker activated" whenever I press the icon. I tried running switch.sh from the terminal and got:

button.state.value = true (bool)
Speaker activated
my euid: 0
my egid: 0
method return sender=:1.7 -> dest=:1.129 reply_serial=2
uint32 1

Any ideas?

<UPDATE>

I ran "/opt/headphonefix/switcher headphone" as root and that seems to have put it into a state where it started working. I can now switch between headset and speaker using the icon.

[Mitrandir]

wook_sf
Thanks! I will integrate it in a short time with slight modifications

kombipom
That's strange... If this will appear again, please let me know how I can reproduce it. Seems like for some reason a state of jack stored by HAL was invalid and this made my script to think that headset was connected, although it was not.

/opt/headphonefix/switcher has SUID bit and so should be runnable by user

[wook_sf]

The app doesn't seem to work for me. I just get "Speaker activated" whenever I press the icon. I tried running switch.sh from the terminal and got:

button.state.value = true (bool)
Speaker activated
my euid: 0
my egid: 0
method return sender=:1.7 -> dest=:1.129 reply_serial=2
uint32 1

Any ideas?

<UPDATE>

I ran "/opt/headphonefix/switcher headphone" as root and that seems to have put it into a state where it started working. I can now switch between headset and speaker using the icon.
try installing with aegis fixed origin on open kernel or with inception.
it worked for me though

[wook_sf]

wook_sf
Thanks! I will integrate it in a short time with slight modifications
maybe you should integrate magic as argv? :D

[Mitrandir]

No, there is no need in open kernel or inception. It should work without any hacks. It just seems like current jack state in HAL was stick at "inserted" while audio state was like it's "ejected". Fix gets current value from HAL and it wes continiously trying to "eject" it. After manual run of "switcher headphone", it get in sync and started to work correctly. Excuse my english if the explanation is bad.

And I just received a report from one more user who get fix sticked at speaker state. Seems like this is serious problem. May be we will need to have two distinct icons for speaker and for headset in order to avoid unsyncing... Or make it switching between two states without checking current state from HAL.

maybe you should integrate magic as argv?
Do you mean these 'magic' binary blobs? If you want to find other events, for example, for TV-Out, I will do this.

[wook_sf]

No, there is no need in open kernel or inception. It should work without any hacks. It just seems like current jack state in HAL was stick at "inserted" while audio state was like it's "ejected". Fix gets current value from HAL and it wes continiously trying to "eject" it. After manual run of "switcher headphone", it get in sync and started to work correctly. Excuse my english if the explanation is bad.

And I just received a report from one more user who get fix sticked at speaker state. Seems like this is serious problem. May be we will need to have two distinct icons for speaker and for headset in order to avoid unsyncing... Or make it switching between two states without checking current state from HAL.


Do you mean these 'magic' binary blobs? If you want to find other events, for example, for TV-Out, I will do this.

:D well it refused to install on my phone...and i AEGIS_FIXED_ORIGIN="com.nokia.maemo" dpkg -i headphonefix* it and it installed it properly.
i am trying to setting up Dev C++ for MeeGo :D (failed with Code::Blocks :D
yes, i want that ;) :D

[Mitrandir]

Hmm... Refused to install? That's strange. What firmware do you have? PR1.2? The fix only requires UID::root, GID::root, GRP::root credentials and all of them should be accessible without fixed origin

[wook_sf]

Hmm... Refused to install? That's strange. What firmware do you have? PR1.2? The fix only requires UID::root, GID::root, GRP::root credentials and all of them should be accessible without fixed origin

yes, pr1.2 didn't played with it much, really, just switched to fixed origin...though :)

[Mitrandir]

If it isn't hard, could you please try to install it without fixed origin and let me know what error message it will display?

[wook_sf]

aegis-loader: Failed loading policy for 'headphonefix::/opt/headphonefix/switcher'

[Mitrandir]

Ouch. Is this for original deb which I was uploaded here?

[wook_sf]

Ouch. Is this for original deb which I was uploaded here?
hold on a sec, this is error with aegis_fixed_origin too, let me see what's wrong

[Mitrandir]

Installs well for me. Note empty origin

~ # LANG=en dpkg -i /home/user/headphonefix_0.0.2_armel.deb
(Reading database ... 48203 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace headphonefix 0.0.2 (using .../headphonefix_0.0.2_armel.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement headphonefix ...
aegis-installing headphonefix (from '')
Setting up headphonefix (0.0.2) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ...

[wook_sf]

Installs well for me. Note empty origin

~ # LANG=en dpkg -i /home/user/headphonefix_0.0.2_armel.deb
(Reading database ... 48203 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace headphonefix 0.0.2 (using .../headphonefix_0.0.2_armel.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement headphonefix ...
aegis-installing headphonefix (from '')
Setting up headphonefix (0.0.2) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ...

did same in my case, after i removed and rebooted and deleted files i've added to /opt/headphonefix/ manually :D then worked and works as charm :)

[Mitrandir]

It probably detected that you have replaced some files and refuses to install due to that :)

[Mitrandir]

Hi,

Here is new build of headphonefix. Now it displays a window with four buttons for corresponding modes:
1. Speaker
2. Video out
3. Headset with mic
4. Headset without mic

I haven't tested VideoOut by myself because I don't have such cable, but one remote beta-testers reports its successful work.

@wook_sf, sorry I have not added your icons yet, will do in next build

[wook_sf]

good to see it updated :D i had cable till yesterday :D lol

[skyleth]

Hi,

Here is new build of headphonefix. Now it displays a window with four buttons for corresponding modes:
1. Speaker
2. Video out
3. Headset with mic
4. Headset without mic

I haven't tested VideoOut by myself because I don't have such cable, but one remote beta-testers reports its successful work.

@wook_sf, sorry I have not added your icons yet, will do in next build

i've installed it and tried with my ca-75u cable, audio works, but video doesn't go through the tv, just phone screen. i've tried connectin directly video+audio connectors, and through a euroconector.

[Mitrandir]

That's sad :(
Have you connected cable to both phone and TV before clicking "Video Out" button? The order might be important here.

[tyson1231]

hello everyone, my N9 also has the same problem. I have to reset the phone with headphone plugged in everytime i want my phone to be in headphone mode and re-reset it if I want to switch back to speaker mode.

SO i installed the App from Mitrandir (thanks mate, very much appreciated), but it doesn't work on my phone :(. It was installed without any problem but it simply just doesn't switch to any other mode. (so looks like something is prevent the switching after the OS is loaded).

:( any idea why this is happening?? I am on PR1.3. It actually worked for me when I was on PR1.1 (i did not update EMMC at the time) and if i remember correctly it started happening after i installed PR1.2 (with EMMC).

:( any help is appreciated. Thanks alot

[Mitrandir]

Strange... I just checked headphonefix 0.3 on my N9 with PR1.3 and it seems to work as expected.
I also received a report from a friend of mine that it doesn’t work on his N9 too.
I don’t know yet why it may happen. May be there are some hardware differences...

[tyson1231]

Strange... I just checked headphonefix 0.3 on my N9 with PR1.3 and it seems to work as expected.
I also received a report from a friend of mine that it doesn’t work on his N9 too.
I don’t know yet why it may happen. May be there are some hardware differences...

:( icic. Do u think this is a hardware issue?? it is meant to switch the mode automatically when headphone is plugged in without using any app so i wonder if there is any design faults in our n9s.

:) anyway thanks, please keep us up to date regarding to your friends n9 if you dont mind.

[Mitrandir]

I think it is hardware issue or at least so lowlevel driver-related software bug that can be considered as hardware one.

I have 2 resons why I think it is hardware:
1. Sometimes when I move and rotate headset connector in the plug it suddenly got recognized by device. This is much like that audio plug has poor electric contact.
2. My friend mentioned above reports his N9 works perfectly with Nokia’s headset, but doesn’t work with his KOSS headphones.

I think some electric contact in audio plug that must report connecting/disconnecting doesn’t work while other contacts that actually transmit sound still works. My application just simulates connection/disconnection events.

I have no idea why it doesn’t work... May be contact is so poor that sound doesn’t work too. May be some other reason. This app is pretty hacky and my knowledge of the root couse is very poor...

[tyson1231]

oh yehh!! your app works on my phone now!! I just turn on Dev mode and installed a bunch of dev tools on the phone and it works. =D

I wasn't convinced that it was hardware problem cause your app just calls out the mode switching event (headphone connected or not) so it should at least switch mode on my phone regardless + the fact my phone actually switches mode when i restart it with headphone plugged in shows that it is compatible.

anyway im happy with switching it manually with your app so thanks a lot again. :)

[Mitrandir]

May be I’m wrong saying that it is hardware... I’m not sure though

Glad that it working now! But I have no idea why Dev mode helped :) The app seems not to have any external dependancies...

[tyson1231]

May be I’m wrong saying that it is hardware... I’m not sure though

Glad that it working now! But I have no idea why Dev mode helped :) The app seems not to have any external dependancies...

haha me neither :D

[fbascou]

Hi, I'm a recent member of the forum, but followed various proyects in the last 5 months since I bought my black N9 without being one.

I installed the deb without problems but it doesn't work. I'm running PR1.2 at the moment.

Would appreciate if someone could give some help....

Thanks,

Fernando.

[wook_sf]

fbascou, seems then like you have hardware malfuntion.
when you start app, and switch to headphones, does it produce anything on earphones? even something like tap?

[fbascou]

No sound when switching to headphones. The only sound is when I plug them in, its like a tsch that sounds twice. Thanks for any help. BTW, the earphones are Sennheiser CX 680i Sports with mic.

[wook_sf]

No sound when switching to headphones. The only sound is when I plug them in, its like a tsch that sounds twice. Thanks for any help. BTW, the earphones are Sennheiser CX 680i Sports with mic.

if there's "tsch" then your headphones are making issue, have you tried any other type?
as i saw this headphones have some sort of buttons (volume and music) that might be reason why there's no support/sound for them

[fbascou]

I tried some different earphones, with the Iphone 4 and HTC earphones I also have that double tsch. With normal headphones without mic I don't even need to use the program to switch the mode. They work automaticlly.

[wook_sf]

I tried some different earphones, with the Iphone 4 and HTC earphones I also have that double tsch. With normal headphones without mic I don't even need to use the program to switch the mode. They work automaticlly.

if it's that so, then better don't use that program because it can damage either your phone or headphones.
try to find original headphones with mic made by nokia they will probably work with your n9 automatically :)
regards

[fbascou]

Ok, I recently bought these sennheiser earphones for sports. I'll have to look for others now....Is there any way I could change the plug and reconfigurate the connections so it works?

[wook_sf]

Ok, I recently bought these sennheiser earphones for sports. I'll have to look for others now....Is there any way I could change the plug and reconfigurate the connections so it works?

there's adapter, but i doubt it will work since hardware related to mic is not one that phone expect, so it makes problems...

[Kroll]

2. My friend mentioned above reports his N9 works perfectly with Nokia’s headset, but doesn’t work with his KOSS headphones.

As your friend I can say that mine N9 did not worked with my modified KOSS headphones with mic from original Nokia headphones from Nokia 5130.
But I bought a new KOSS Porta Pro and they worked brilliant! untill this week.
Suddenly ALL headphones witch worked fine before (including original Nokia N9's headphones «from the box») stopped worked without manually switching. Even original N9 headphones. I am so disappointed :(
So does somebody tried to send their device to the Nokia or shop it has been bought for repair?

[Mitrandir]

Take a look on first posts in this thread. As far as I remember, someone tried to deal it with Nokia Care and described it somewhere at beginning of this thread

[Dam]

Thank you very much Mitrandir. The app works like a charm (n9 16Gb). This is gonna save me a lot of reboot ! Thank you.

[Mitrandir]

Thanks for report!

[Kroll]

Yeah. Unfortunately buttons (volume, next/prev and play/pause) on the headphones (which was in the box with N9) doesn't work :(

[Mitrandir]

Hmmm... Did you had next/prev and play/pause buttons on stock headphones?
Mine has only one button, if I recall correctly...

[Kroll]

I have prev, play/pause. next, vol+/-, pick up the phone buttons. on the stock headphones,

[Mitrandir]

Strange because both my N9s have this 1-button headset: http://www.flickr.com/photos/orangescale/6308520094/
:)

[Kroll]

Well I have this one http://i01.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/949/976/418/418976949_554.jpg
(может быть это из-за того что у меня «серый» телефон?)
Anyway, buttons worked just perfect as headphones did. But now I can't control music player, volume and answer the call, but mic still works.

[Kroll]

I am thinking about this http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-BH-214-Bluetooth-Stereo-Headset-Headphone-for-Nokia-/330792329349?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4d04c26085
Cheap and free delivery... but BT will drain a battery much faster.

[Mitrandir]

I have never regret that I bought BT headset.
Much more convenient and usable. And no tangles of wires at last!
Battery drains faster, but it is noticeable only if you're listening all the time.

[wout.martens]

I am thinking about this http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-BH-214-Bluetooth-Stereo-Headset-Headphone-for-Nokia-/330792329349?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item4d04c26085
Cheap and free delivery... but BT will drain a battery much faster.

BH-214 is a good headset, for sure the fact that you can use your own headphone with it.

Bare in mind that it should stick quite close to your mouth in order to improve the speech quality.

I used to work for Nokia Accessories and whilst I can recommend the BH-214 to anyone I'd not use it, here's why.

1. Battery - not only of your N9, but as well your BH-214 (different connector so while travelling you need to bring microUSB as well as 2mm Nokia charger)

2. BT - WLAN - This is always a problem. Radio frequencies interfere with each other, We have the WlanScan toggle which will improve this stutter but it will not completely solve it

3. Not possible to lock the keys, so when you are accidentally pressing a button the music stops, starts over again or plays the next song, minor issue you might think, but have been in many situations where i really thought "bloody headset!"

These 3 reasons are KEY to me, and will be for many others.

So I'd recommend you buying the AD-54 (see it as a BH-214 but with a cable) - Use your own headphones with it, Quality wise a good buy.
Comes in white and black (both looking stylish) and the cost price on ebay is less than 10euro including shipment. (that's nothing!)

Don't worry about battery drainage / Stuttering music / Accidentally pressing a control button (you can lock keys :))

Disadvantage?
Nothing except for the fact that not all 3rd party apps are supporting it (e.g. Qspot - Flowplayer...)

[Kroll]

So I'd recommend you buying the AD-54Thanks fellow, I do appreciate your advice but the only reason I think about BT headphones is that my N9 doesn't work with wired headphones (well it does if I use Mitrandir's headphone switcher application, but it is not very comfort to use and buttons on the headphones doesn't work even with this app).
I listen music about 4 hours a day so small battery in BH-214 it is not a problem (I think N9 with BT will die much faster if I forget to shut down Ethernet connection, lol) anyway, I can plug my Koss headphones directly in N9.
What about problem #2? I think I did not get it...

[Mitrandir]

#2 is about radio frequency interference between BT and WiFi (and also microwave ovens :) ).
Though, I didn’t noticed such issues with my bt headset.

[wout.martens]

No prob, dont really understand why wired headphones are not working with your N9?
I use ad-54 with B&W headphones and the sound is just perfect.

About #2, If you use internet (WLAN connection) while you're listening to music it might happen that your music will stutter. Packages are being send and delivered over WLAN so these signals can interfere with bluetooth connection.

I do say MIGHT as in some examples (depending on location of base station etc) almost no stutter is present.

[thedead1440]

The stutter is also evident if another phone comes into the space directly between your headset and phone...

[Kroll]

Actually I have warranty and I can give my phone to repair but I am sure I will lose my N9 for month or even more...
I still have my Palm T|X to listen music (about 7 hours of music playback, not so bad), videos and reading, but I do not have a good phone to replace N9 until it get repaired....

[wout.martens]

Replace it so you can use all its functions...
And no, you'll not drown, choke or any near death experience while you're phone is away :) Just use something cheap :)

[Kroll]

I know, but I really do not have any other phone to use :)
Anyway, u r right and we should stop hijack this thread...

[jackercs]

I recently buyed my N9, and I was so happy with my phone 'till this problem happened, I have found very useful the headphonefix app, so thanks to the developer, but how can be impossible find another solution?? some user says that the problem could come from low level driver, they are un-fixable???

[Mitrandir]

Sorry, but headphonefix is the only solution that I aware of for this moment

[suyog]

I had same issue with my N9 64GB Black PR1.3.
My N9 16GB never had this problem.
I thought it was hardware issue initially but then I noticed that this issue was only with N9+headset which came in box(WH-901).
When I tried few other headsets like 808s , they worked without any issue.
Also WH-901 worked in other phones.

I asked shop owner to give me new headset and he gave me Lumia 900's WH-902, and it worked great.
I was lucky to get replacement though I bought this N9 without warranty,imported piece as Nokia India never released it here.

I somehow feel this was some kind of software issue along with modifications Nokia did for Dolby stuff.
I noticed that WH-902/1 doesn't work with 808 showing message unsupported accessory.

[jackercs]

I had same issue with my N9 64GB Black PR1.3.
My N9 16GB never had this problem.
I thought it was hardware issue initially but then I noticed that this issue was only with N9+headset which came in box(WH-901).
When I tried few other headsets like 808s , they worked without any issue.
Also WH-901 worked in other phones.

I asked shop owner to give me new headset and he gave me Lumia 900's WH-902, and it worked great.
I was lucky to get replacement though I bought this N9 without warranty,imported piece as Nokia India never released it here.

I somehow feel this was some kind of software issue along with modifications Nokia did for Dolby stuff.
I noticed that WH-902/1 doesn't work with 808 showing message unsupported accessory.

I have the mine imported too, I'm from Chile, and the N9 has come with the WH-902, but they simply don't work, I have even disassembled complety looking for some metal piece from a welding work that I have done not to much time ago, but I didn't find anything, I think the only solution will be wait for Jolla and their posibly fixs for actual meego...

[suyog]

@jackercs Did you try any other headsets? or fix developed by @mitrandir?

[jackercs]

@jackercs Did you try any other headsets? or fix developed by @mitrandir?

Yes and yes, I have tried another headphones, just headphones without microphone or buttons, and I havent tested another headset now Im using the headphonefix 03.deb

[jackercs]

I don't know if someone have noticed, but, if you try to record some video, and you have the profile of "headphones" or "headset with microphone" in the headphone fix, there is no audio record on the video... you have to set it "speaker" to record audio..

[Mitrandir]

Strange that audio recording not working in "Headphones without mic" mode.
In "Headset with mic" it probably takes audio from mic.

[Discoveryellow]

I have the mine imported too, I'm from Chile, and the N9 has come with the WH-902, but they simply don't work,,,

Okay, so I know Lumia 920 is rolling out globally and it's cool and best and all that... But I still want to show care for my N9 64Gb and just bought replacement WH-902 that originally came with it (EU, Finland version) and which I lost long time ago.

The 902 came from eBay and shipped from Hong Kong. I have two problems:

- for one they don't work with my N9, when the original ones did when I got the phone in February (2012) but work with all other devices, while N9 works with most other "dumb" headsets (no MIC no call button) I tied.
- for second the WH-902 I got doesn't say "Nokia" on them anywhere and look a bit fake (lacquer not perfectly sharp on edges, steel grid is not so well brushed as I remember my original 902's)

Please let me know what you think: Why N9 + WH-902 I got = fail to work, and if you think there is a way to check if the 902 are fake.

For the record they came tucked into a plastic ribbon, no box. OEM like my original ones that were in the box of my Made in Finland Nokia N9.

[Bob the Englishman]

I just thought I'd post that my N9 has just developed this problem. The earphones which Nokia supplied work, and one other set, but they aren't much good for me: they don't fit my ears well and I'm a bit deaf, so I spent lots of money on a better set of Phonak earphones and an amplifier. Neither of them are recognised by the phone now, so wasted money unless I buy a separate MP3 player that works.

Unfortunately headphonefix doesn't work on my phone either, which is a terrible shame as it seemed an ideal solution. I'm not sure if I've installed it wrongly or something, I'm pretty ignorant about the phone. I just double clicked on it in the file manager, having set the phone to install non Nokia Store software. It looks as if it installed ok, but the buttons don't appear to do anything. Anyway, thanks greatly to Mitrandir for trying, and I'm glad if others have found it works. If anyone can suggest anything to get it going on my phone I would be very grateful.

[Discoveryellow]

Okay so I just found out that there is WH-902 and also WH-901 out there and that the 902 uses "American" AHJ jack vs the OMTP connector which I assume N9 uses. Just a speculation here, but perhaps answers why I have the problem. (http://www.nokia.com/gb-en/support/troubleshooting/?action=singleFAQ&caseid=FA136274_en_US)

[vitaminj]

You can tell if that's the problem if you hold down the button and plug the headset in and they're recognised a plain headphones.

The N9 does indeed use the "standards body that no-one listened to" standard whereas iPhones, thus most 3rd party headsets, thus most Androids, thus Lumias use the "Apple did it this way so we'd best make it work" standard.

So to make an iPhone headset work on the N9 you'll need to buy or make (https://twitter.com/stephenspencer/status/277805561725194242/photo/1) an adaptor.